Colin Cowherd is joined by John MIddlekauff to react to Joaquin Niemann’s win at LIV Golf Virginia, debate Phil Mickelson’s legacy, and rank the top golfers of all time.
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so I thought of you this weekend because uh the Liv Tour the Live Golf Tour So just full disclosure when the Live Golf Tour there’s a there’s an event coming up here in Chicago not far from where I live Yeah So and there’s big names on this live tour Like I initially my take on live tour was why am I loyal to the PGA They don’t run the Masters They don’t run the British Open Um there’s the PGA the USGAA uh there’s Augusta Um they run a lot of second tier tournaments And my take is I’m loyal to the NFL because the NFL encompasses all teams all owners It is the foundational piece of the league Same with the NBA or Major League Baseball The PGA essentially was a charity to get a tax break And I was more loyal to Augusta and the US Open at Pebble Beach Tiger Woods Phil Brooks Kepka I was always loyal to the golfer not the golf course or the PGA Now Augusta is different I’m loyal to Augusta and I’m also loyal to every US Open at at Pebble Beach Outside of that I’m not loyal to courses and I’m not loyal I was never loyal to anything So when Liv Golf entered the frey my take was well if they have the more interesting golfers I’ll watch those golfers And that’s what’s happened with me is that I’ve seen multiple PGA events where I don’t think they have a good enough field And so as you watch this weekend Phil Mickelson obviously had the shot of the weekend Yeah But as but as you watched it this weekend what was your takeaway about the quality in the field of the live tour Well I think I mean they have two of the best four or five players in the world and you know I would say Bryson has uh transcended through just sport to now culturally I mean YouTube he he’s a gigantic star on YouTube as well Uh he’s just he’s just a unique personality and he is an absolute ass kicker I mean he’s now Rory did not play well last week in Canada Bryson is currently the second favorite right behind at Scotty at 8 to1 to win the US Open He’s also the defending US Open champion John Rom who had not played well for like a year and a half in the majors showed serious signs of life at the PGA against Scotty I mean for for the last nine holes it felt like John Rom might win this which would have been his third major So they got two guys in John Rom and Bryson who are when they’re on are as good as anyone not named Scotty Sheffler and honestly could go toe-to-toe with Scotty I would say the thing with Phil um you know he they had a rain delay in in DC and he was one shot off the lead and he he threw out a tweet like I got a 10-footer to tie for the lead and it was like it’s fun to have Phil I mean he’s one of you know a lot I would say Bryson has become kind of the modernday Phil He just a unique personality that transcended uh now Phil also had Tiger I I would say there’s no one as big as Tiger with Bryson You could argue Bryson might even be as big as bigger than Scotty but Phil is just a special unique Everyone that follows sports knows who Phil Mickelson And the thing with golf you know you just never know The US Open is a tournament that Phil has never been able to win right Rory just wins the Masters completes the career grand slam All these tennis players all the top guys they’ve they win all the the the Grand Slam tournaments Uh you know most of the top golfers of all time have won all four majors Phil could never win the US Open even though he’s finished in the top I think he’s finished second like six times It’d be it’d be cool just one last time And I think Phil mentioned this It’s his last one Yeah Which is you know kind of sad but also you know you get to a certain point in golf if you’re not making the cuts and you get in your mid-50s How do you view ass kicked How do you view if we if you and I said greatest golfers of all time Bobby Jones Jack Nicholas Tiger Woods I love Palmer Yeah Um there’s then there’s guys like Tom Kite who finished second a million times Where do you put Mickelson Yeah I would say his comp if we were doing like NFL quarterbacks would probably be Peyton Manning Uh he’s probably one of the most important people that ever played the sport He just happened to be at a time when there was a guy named Tiger Woods like Peyton had Tom Brady and I I think a lot like Peyton financial success I mean well before Liv came around Phil remember that that stat like for like 10 straight years Tiger was the highest paid athlete and Phil was like always two or three right ahead of Kobe or LeBron So I mean Phil financially was uh crushed it You know he didn’t win till a little bit later right He I think he won the Masters when he was like 33 34 years old and then the floodgates kind of open He won a bunch of majors He’s definitely one of the more entertaining I mean it’s just a fan of golf One of the more entertaining golfers Very relatable I mean at any moment Phil could pump the thing out of bounds I mean some of some of Phil’s greatest moments have been like shots over fans and over trees to then tap in for birdie It’s not always just splitting the middle of the fairway and then knocking it to 5T I I think he’s I never watched Arnold Palmer but that there was an entertainment aspect to Arnold Palmer I I think Phil when it comes to the individual sports tennis and golf uh is got to be one of the greatest entertainers of of all time and/personalities Did you ever read the book I thought it was great by Alan Shipnook titled Phil the rip roaring biography of golf’s most colorful superstar Did you ever read that I never did Oh my god I think you’d love it I cannot believe I haven’t gotten this for you You should go to Amazon or Barnes & Noble I I’ll I’ll download it right now Okay It’s I read I read the I read the Billy Walters book I mean I me and Phil have some commonalities of some of our vices You know we like betting on football So I mean I I I I actually being in Arizona I’ve met some guys that played with Phil and I mean they love him I mean some of his college teammates are still really close to him you I mean Phil’s Phil’s a pretty special if this if we’re talking like football or basketball This guy was a blue chip talent at like 18 19 years old One as an amateur on the PJ tour I mean he’s had one of the great careers of all time Sorry to interrupt this great video but please remember to like and subscribe Thank you Now back to the video I think he looks at the Allen Shipnook book as a negative I don’t I found it You remember when they made Wall Street and Oliver Stone did not want Gordon Gecko to be a hero Yeah He built him for the uh audacity of Wall Street and the grotesque nature of money is everything and everybody young stock brokers end up idolizing and I think Phil looks at the Allen Shipnook book as a negative I found it made him more relatable Listen between food and gambling and just personality Phil’s a lot You know what he’s like He’s like a more talented more disciplined John Dailyaly that he he you know Daly just could not control himself at all Phil has moments where he loses he he wasn’t terribly disciplined but he was so effing talented and he was smart I mean Phil’s really bright and I don’t think Daily is necessarily Daily just a little bit of a mess but a wildly relatable and entertaining mess But when I read the Shipnook book I I recommend it for everybody I I came out of there it it was I thought it made Phil likable Like I wasn’t bothered Like it’s not like Phil is trying to tell you I’ve always had abs I’ve never bet football Phil’s never tried In fact I think he sort of leaned in that he’s a little crazy And I loved it Yeah I mean I actually think you’re right I mean Phil’s qualities I think part of the reason Michael Jordan still to this day is so popular You know most people can’t relate to just winning championship after championship but you know Michael likes to drink Michael likes to socialize Michael likes to party he likes to gamble You know I think Phil has some of the similarities that it’s like you know Phil does a lot of relatable things And I think as a golfer you know Tiger could just be so robotic It was like this guy’s just a lock to win where Phil it’s like hey yeah he could win by five or he could double bogey double bogey 17 and 18 and end up losing in historic fashion and that’s that’s where I think Rory you know I think kind of resonates of just like it can go great it can go poorly and you know Bryson I I’m telling you Colin I think Bryson US Open this week in Oakmont is going to be a major major factor yeah and I yeah I think Bryson Shambo did a really good job to pivot I thought he was unlikable you know the 13 eggs uh the 16 power shakes in the morning It was like bro I I don’t need a Bitcoin bro Winning on the PJ tour Just be normal I think he’s become incredibly relatable I think he’s great with fans which I like Um I always thought Tiger was a bit too aloof with fans Um I think Bryson has really done as good a job as any athlete and again it’s golf so I don’t know what his marketing company is I think he’s done as good a job as any athlete going from unlikable to likable in a two-year stretch Like I root for Bryson to Shambo now I rooted for Brooks Kepka two years ago I still love Brooks but I think Bryson’s the better player now Is that that’s fair Oh yeah Not even close I mean I’d say Bryson’s I mean as we sit here today is currently the with Rory in shambles a little bit Currently the second best player in the world I I do think you know the the live you know he was able to pivot He went all in on this YouTube really kind of changed I also think golf it’s become a little it’s definitely become more I I would say uh more in vogue more popular athletes now play it you know football people like it but for a long time you’re just very isolated you’re by yourself it’s not a team game if you are a little quirky and weird which you I think you naturally have to be to just practice non-stop it’s not like tennis where you need another person to practice with you just play golf by yourself you can just practice by yourself 247 seven that like even if you’re a little weird if you play football or basketball you’re going to be around other people and you’ll just kind of mold into just kind of them right And just parts of their personality where in golf you can just kind of stay isolated And I think the live team element I think the YouTube element uh really kind of changed And listen I think Bryson lightened up You don’t have to be like Tiger was I mean let’s face it kind of an [ __ ] Kobe could be Michael could be when you’re kicking everyone’s butt 24/7 365 no one really cares you know Bryson would go to show up to the Masters and be like this is a par 67 and then shoot 77 and Bryson you can’t be saying that so I think he he got humbled a little bit and uh I think he’s just kind of embraced maybe the perfect timing of like social media boom he just kind of knows how to play it and he’s yeah let’s face it you hit the ball 340 350 yards I mean John Daly is still cool and he’s 60 years old I mean a part of hitting the chick dig the long ball I mean guys dig the long ball It’s It’s cool And he’s and he does that But he’s a but he’s a great player So I I I think he’s got out of anybody the best chance to beat Scotty this weekend at the US Open Great stuff John Middle former NFL scout three and out Buddy hit the Titos today It’s a Tito’s day Well take it easy All right buddy [Music]
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Bryson is awesome and great for golf. However is a terrible take. The PGA tour is way more competitive, def more difficult. Are there more no names, sure. To say PGA does not have personality is crazy. Not a great take at all by Colin who prob never watches golf at all.
LIV is a joke id rather watch LPGA than watching LIV…my ass Colin watches it. LIV has been completely underwhelming, and every player who went there has seen their game go backwards, except Bryson. Its been bad for the game of golf.
This is an absolutely the worst take on golf. People who like golf likes the PGA format. 72 holes is championship format.
LIV is as authentic as WWE wrestling. A big giant Saudi Royal piece of ornate rubbish
its really ironic to see, how much pgatour fans need to always be throwing hate on liv, while liv fans only seem to care about their own product
One of the truest takes, that I can relate to because I follow the golfer as well, so I enjoy watching both tours. Bringing golf all over the world
I loathe LIV. Always Will. I loathe everything they stand for or don't stand for.
LIV is a horrible product. Just unwatchable.
😂Colin is a Joke WOKE Liberal
😮John Laughing You're take is Weak
Collin, you guys got this one way wrong…..
LIV is terrible….
Phil is no angel. He's a right wing con who barely escaped prison for financial fraud.
Palmer was electric. You two have no clue. Nobody else had an army. He made golf on television popular.
Full Swing on Netflix has revealed the problem with the PGA: miss the cut, miss the money.
LIV provides every golfer – AND their caddy, AND their families – financial security.
Bryson is the first gay golfer on the liv tour or the PGA that has come out.. 🏳️🌈
I agree with his take, anyone who says “Real golf fans only like PGA” is exactly what is wrong with the PGA monopoly. i’ve been to 3 LIV events and they’re a great environment
Rory in shambles? He won the masters 60 days ago…
Niemann is way better than Bryson and that speaks for itself. Bryson is very good, but he cant touch Niemann atm. Hes won like 4 of 7 events this year. Do you guys even watch? Or just look for big names?
Imagine thinking the LIV field is better than the PGA 😂😂
Don't forget Ben Hogan
It’s so funny to watch the bots enter every chat to steer the narrative away from the truth that LIV is not going to catch on, it’s just not interesting or entertaining
Folks, it is the PGA Tour, not PGA.
Liv in the pockets of Colin
LIV sucks, for me it’s unwatchable.
Liv signing with Fox is all you need to know about this segment!
Lol this is basically propaganda for LIV 😂 this man says they have 2 of the best 5 players in the world as an argument. Well, so does the PGA tour.. and I’d even say Scottie and Rory are 1 and 2.
Gimmick golf
I love Liv golf all my friends love it too it just none stop action and I think some people forget that it’s a sport and sport is just entertainment! Go smash!!
How much is Colin being paid to market the USFL of golf?
Sold out for LIV just like the players. I won’t be watching this or their shitty product…