Mark Crossley: Hilarious Brian Clough Stories & Playing with Roy & Wrighty | Stick to Football EP 86

Welcome back to Stick to Football, brought to you by Sky Bet! In today’s episode, Nottingham Forest legend Mark Crossley joins the panel to share some incredible stories about his time under the management of Brian Clough.

Mark dives into his hilariously vivid impressions of Clough, recounts his experiences playing alongside Roy Keane and Ian Wright during their spells at Nottingham Forest, and reflects on some unforgettable moments in his career, including saving Matt Le Tissier’s penalty. This episode is packed with football nostalgia and hilarious tales you won’t want to miss.

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00:00 Intro
00:47 Nottingham Forest
03:46 Playing with Roy Keane and Ian Wright
05:01 Playing Under Brian Clough
16:35 Clough Stories
19:43 Tough Love and Mind Games
23:13 Memorable Stories

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Crossley everyone that’s it for the big man hey Cross welcome Mark good to see you nice to see you Mark look at you good yeah you were just on about nicknames before there obviously I do the dinner circuit a little bit now and when COVID came and obviously we struggled on the entertainment side my first gig was in Nottingham when we got back on the circuit and um was full of Forest fans and I turned up at the gig and having played 12 years for him in 393 games when I turned up you would have thought they might have had a clue where I actually was when I turned up so I goes in a fellow puts his hand out shakes my hand he goes “I can’t believe it.” And I said “Believe what?” He said “I can’t believe that we’ve got the fella who sits in the caravan with the old woman on goggle boxing at the dinner tonight.” Yeah no I don’t know i can see a bit of a Yeah they’re brilliant aren’t they they’re so You do look like him mel Gibson Lee off oh that is funny talk about Forest i think they’ve become an established Premier League team we’re looking at them this season now which is was the aim and two seasons where it looked like they were definitely getting relegated surviving late on beating Arsenal one was a massive massive game to stay up the first year so I just think and but the owner has put his money where his mouth is and his and his sign he’s not bothered by anyone yeah so you can’t you can’t knock that really yeah people were ridiculed for it wouldn’t they they have been incredible though people had them down for like relegation to see where they are now like that was Cargo on it yeah did he have a known for reneg they’re never going to get relegated yeah but what he’s done is like amazing isn’t it i don’t think we predicted them to be where they are now they’re playing some really good counterattacking football and they’ve got a bit of pace and they’ve got a talented player called uh Morgan Gibbs White playing midfield and what I love about him is like I see him come off the pitch and he’s shattered every single game i love to see that got a bit of pace that way is Chris Wood chris Wood it’s like like never I’ve never seen him having the season he’s having i think he started the end of last season then he scored quite a few goals and then yeah never seen him it’s nice to see the old fashioned type of center forwards isn’t it can you imagine how happy he is though you’ve seen him cross Mark and you see him with that pace around him morgan Gibbs in front he all he’s got to do is focus on finishing and it’s just you could see that he’s just like it’s he’s got it and I noticed this year like they’re putting the ball in the box a little bit i know it’s no cliche but you don’t put the ball in the box and somebody like Chris would is thriving off that you know and I don’t know is it a case as a striker that once one’s going in two is going in three everything you confidence builds it just keep getting more and more confidence and when you’re not scoring you’re thinking where where’s the next one coming from well at the moment everything he’s eating is going in so fair play to him for him you played with both these two yes what was that tell us some story who’s who’s the uh who’s the best teammate who’s your favorite out of these two i was only there for a month when I was That’s enough to get a picture of someone we were on the we were on the slippery slope when he come saw that um but we plattly won it at David Platt yes Platt brought me in i remember I came in from um training on a pitch on time what was it that you put on my peg cross mark crosses uh two feeasants two feeasants man so you know you walk in and you just come in and you go like that and I went two feas i said what’s this man birds yeah feasants real ones we had a player called Andy Johnson he used to shoot the feeasants in his back garden and he brought a brace in for me cuz I I like feeasant i like you know and uh I thought it’ be a good idea he used to wear this long black leather coat and he hung it up so I thought when we get out from training them feeasants going to be under that that black leather coat when he said he liked the birds he didn’t that was a good That was a good time and Roy yeah well Roy was 18 when he had I just remember like just when he turned up and even the first day you see that there’s a a special player like there you know um you see it instantly don’t you i mean and the rest is history in it you know but we had some great times it were a little bit different back then and the best uh but as I say you know under Cluffy it was I would probably say that’s probably the best learning curve you could ever have it was the best education you could ever ever have why would that be just I mean obviously we’ve heard a lot of brain just the way I don’t know people always say were you scared of him and all that and I don’t think it was a case that I think we was in awe of him he had a massive presence he could just walk in a room and he didn’t have to say anything um he taugh for me when I look back cuz I had six years with him it was a kind of like it didn’t only try and teach me about what I meant to do on a football pitch because I was a little bit of a rogue and that when I when I was a kid but he he taught me little things about a proper handshake about eye contact about not speaking to people with your hands in your pockets and all the little things that go with it right and at our football club like the most important person was the lady that does your kit you know the kit man that puts your kit out the guy that goes and makes you a cup of tea at halfime or whatever uh they were the most important people at the football club not the players and I when I look back I think that’s how we kept it together like that yeah beautiful he kept it simple though didn’t he everything was simple the messages to all of us wasn’t it never complicated the game did he no i know you’ve heard that many times before but I remember him once saying like “What’s your job goalkeeper what’s your job?” And you start coming over with these things and no just stop the ball from going in the goal fullbacks stop crosses play forward when you win it back preferably to a red shirt like you know but center backs edit and kick it and I know that’s old school but if you didn’t do them simple things that he wanted you to do you you didn’t keep you yeah but it’s still prevalent center forward get hold of the ball keep it get it out wide get in the box score me a diving header get cut while you’re doing it it looks better in the newspaper on a Sunday morning you know and just little covers up it was tough it was tough really tough he was a great striker himself wasn’t he it was were there any tactics at all any sort of shape during the week that you’d work on or never it was brilliant five side so what was what was train so we basically let’s pretend you’ve played on Saturday and you’ve got a game the following Saturday what would your week look like from Sunday onwards sometimes see you Thursday wow really from Saturday yeah now I know when before you were talking about training hard to be fair it was quite you only did one day a week a working is the working you wouldn’t you wouldn’t see him till Thursday Friday anyway but as soon as he appeared training obviously upper level but like even goalkeepers we never had a goalkeeping coach like so who’s doing that then what were you doing we were doing it between ourselves but we’d play five side and we play out jeez 442 it never changed And but it was a good environment wasn’t it brilliant environment good environment for players like you Piery and Nigel and Dez you know all good players good players in the session yeah what does team talk be then before a game in terms of sort of how to motivate you or how to sort of Well he you remember he used to have the cricket ball so he he’d come in like 8 minutes to kick off say and he likes you to sit down still with a towel over your knees focus on the job on any particular reason towel they just like you to I don’t know keep warm focus on the game and then he’d pull out his cricket ball and he’d throw it catch it throw it back next one catch it throw it back catch it and then he’d take his flat cap off and he’d try and throw it on the peg we used to have a ball in the middle of the dressing room on a towel and he’d go “That’s what we’re playing with keep it on the floor.” That was it that’s it that’s it go and enjoy it play with a smile on your face that’s it never did any any never ever once mention the opposition never ever never set pieces nothing nothing wow no set players wow cuz he believed so much in you guys and he could pick players he obviously knew a good player yeah yeah off the cuff recruitment was fantastic wow that was a tough No he made he he definitely made sure you wouldn’t be overthinking the game would he yeah yeah you never sound like it you know you never go in the pitch you think listen you would know your job that’s really important part of management and it would be all them simple things like looking after the ball striker get hold of it for me just make some runs and what about the opposing team with the runners that’s coming through and what they nothing yeah but subconsciously you’d be aware of who you’re playing but you wouldn’t need the manager telling you that you know who you’re up against but you’d be doing that by just watching games yourself and picking up on stuff negotiables i was just about to say like if you’re playing in midfield and the goal they’ve got midfielders that are going to run you know it anyway do you know what I mean it’s not like Exactly that’s what I mean you just play the game in front of you don’t you what was his non-negotiables in terms of like what would he just not accept what would what would he lose his rag at lose his temper at being late yeah huge one for him yeah i remember going into training once and I was a bit I wasn’t clean shaving i mean he didn’t mind a beach as long as it long as it was neat but if you were looking you know Yeah he’d go “Um I remember once sent me home see you tomorrow.” Well cuz you had a beard cuz I was looking a bit scruffy in that like You were loving your days off now aren’t you a full week sticking me out with gel all over how do you dealt with this this little thing i know the go that was after him after I had a go had a goatee like as well and long curly hair i remember his first words to me ever was there wasn’t an academy then it was two-year apprenticeship yts yts yeah but the lead up to that was called a a Colts team the Colts the Colts so that was like the feeder group then and you go and play against local football teams men so we were like 15 16 coming through the Colts we were playing in a local uh league that was men and again that was your great education playing against men at that age and he used to come and watch the first team were at home in the afternoon he’d come and watch the Colts to see i remember like doing well in one game and he waited for me after and I had long curly hair he said “Son.” So I goes over to him i said “Uh yes.” He said “No it’s boss.” I said “Yes boss.” He said “If you want to play football for me I suggest that you get your haircut.” So what do you do the next day you go and get your haircut cuz I want to play football for him this episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Sky Bet my favorite story is when he made me sign a blank contract like we which a blank contract blank yeah yeah what was blank the contra the numbers remember it used to be like a blue blue uh A4 piece of paper like so it was amazing how I got this contract so you were the first team at this stage no yeah i’d played in the first team so I’d done my YTS and your first year’s bro was a non-negotiable 100 a week contract the letter came to your digs right so you take it or leave it there’s no agents there were not even any mobiles then so I was one of the lucky ones i got the£100 a week contract then the following year I made my debut uh at 19 and he honored it and he’d rip that up then and then he’d give you what you you thought you was worth now cuz he was this psychologist within himself probably without knowing it half the time my first concept was I was injured at the time it was half 8 in the morning i got a dead leg you’re getting assessed he wants to know his numbers by 9:00 so I’ve gone in anyway as I go in like the bath’s running i can hear like a bath cuz we had little baths and a big bath then and showers and the baths running and and you know the taps are still still running so I pops my head in the in the bathroom and and he’s in the bath the gaffer’s in the bath half in the morning yeah he’s having a bath i said “Why is that the bit that pops your mind?” Come on i want to hear the story i said “Are you all right boss get me a towel son.” So I go and get my towel i come back and he’s gone but his footprints are going out the dressing room down the corridor we got a sauna halfway down he’s in the sauna so I knock on the door give him the towel when’s your contract up such a great accent i said “End of the season would you like a new one?” So I said “Well I’d love one come and meet me.” I’ll not say what he called me cuz um but he said “Come and see me Monday morning and I’ll give you a new contract.” So I go and see him Monday morning yet to get to see me had to go through Carol she said “Well he hasn’t said anything to me but he’s in i’ll ring ring his office go down just down the corridor knock on the door walk in.” He stood there rugby shirt green sweater blue track bottoms pair of wellies on squash racket in his hand and I said “Uh hello morning boss.” He goes “What can I do for you?” So I said “You’ve told me to come and see you about signing a new contract.” Don’t remember that one son i goes “Well you did.” He goes “Have a seat.” So I sit down and he opens the drawer and he puts the contract on the table and he said “Sign that i goes “I can’t sign that why can’t you sign it?” I said “It’s blank i’ll fill it in sir.” And so he asked me to leave the office so I’m literally in the corridor and he closed the door so I close the door i’m in the corridor and like I say you’re not you’re not with an agent or a mobile and I’m literally just walking up and down the corridor he’s going “Four minutes i gave you five to sign it but I’m going to give you four now oh you’re off to Barnsley where you [Laughter] from goal for them son.” So I’m thinking what am I going to do it’s like It’s like It’s bullying really isn’t it so I thought I’m going to have to go and sign it i have a car so I goes in and and I and I signed the contract and I’d been after a car as well and to to have a car when you were young you had to ask him cuz if he said no you couldn’t have a car and his answer to me was I think you’re a bit of an idiot whileever there’s an idiot on the road you’re not having a car so cuz I’m still driving on the road and ask him for months and months and months anyway so I signed this blank contract it’ll be ready in the morning so go and pick it up Monday morning carol hands me some uh car keys i said “What’s this?” She said “You wanted a car didn’t you?” I said “Yeah.” So he’s got you a car what is it she said “I don’t know.” I said “Where is it?” She said “It’s in the car park.” I said “Carol there’s 100 cars in that The point of this car anyway it’s a it’s a white XR3i with a black wow yeah and straight away I’m thinking no one in Bal has got one of them like so I point the car the car’s flashing the flashes and so I’ve got that car go back in i said uh to Carol thank the gaffer said here’s your contract i look at the contract year one £500 a week year two £500 a week year three £500 a week year four,500 a week in the little bonus section elizabeth’s car so I go “Who’s Elizabeth?” She said “His daughter she bought that car she didn’t like it so let’s give it you.” Oh that’s not the word so I get the wage slip at the end of the month and there’s a in the column underneath the wages deduction elizabeth’s car £135 so all I did was take over the monthly payment of the car anyway but that was just him you know signing that blank contract i even when I had bad times I could never do I could never do wrong anymore cuz I’ve signed a blank contract trusted him and he’s trusted me to sign it and that’s the bond straight away that was probably the car contract you know so that’s such a good story that is was amazing and that was fair contract was that fair was was would you was you happy was that were you happy with 500 quid cuz we were when you know as players you have a little chat with the people who were same age or like so Stony and uh Scotty Gill and all they were all on 500 quid a week all played in the first team that was the standard that was it that that was exactly the same with us at United he gave us all the same contract he gave us four grand signing on fee £210 a week year one £230 a week year two £250 £270 all got Honda Prelude we all got the same contract i think eight of us similar but all your stories you’ve warmed towards them have you not like you’re you’ve no nastiness towards him have you no like a lot of players could look at that and go was bullying or was out of order you you don’t I just like well he changed my life so he gave me my debut at 19 against Liverpool so I always look back as though that man changed my life so I don’t know any players or ex players what I do find fascinating is the amount of ex players that want to know what he was like every and he’ll never go away he’s never going away so and that’s that’s the next part of your career know you do the after doing fantastic Yeah absolutely but I talk about him with like passion and and love man and love yeah cuz he was he was such a I don’t know whether he knew what he was doing half the time like but just like Yeah he was tough when you don’t know if you met was he tough and you I know you were saying he gave you a couple of days off after the Blackburn game but there must have been games where he went “Hey.” Yeah he was he was tough he was tough yeah tough what was he like after a defeat um he played mind games some if you got beaten you think you’re going to get he’s going to go after you and then he go he’d go the other way and go have a few days off and then if you’d won a few you going listen a couple of days off and no you’re all in tomorrow so he’d definitely be playing mind games and he really looked after you going back to see your family in Ireland always yeah but also tough with me then obviously obviously we the incident with me you with the the Crystal Palace go punch me after the game so he’d be like he give me days off and it be brilliant it was my fault fault it was back pass he left it a little bit short you You was actually charging me down it was Was it me was it i think it was you know wouldn’t have been a good fit no but you were good with your feet you were kind of sh Yeah good left foot great left foot and I’m looking and honestly was like slow motion you know about no not upsetting the manager because we all love Brian Club he gave us a chance like Norm did for me and I remember John Salakaco gets it and I’m looking at Norm running back john Salac what would he be 45 yards out easily at the City ground wouldn’t it no I’m getting No he ain’t getting there he’s [ __ ] not getting me i swear and as soon as I hit the net how does it go to How’s that how’s that end up being a punch because he he blamed me for the back pass and it was the cup game so then we went to a replay and he was like he wouldn’t he wanted a game done and dusted there i think he ended up going to was it three replays or something was that the same one so the thought of having a free weekend I’ve got to go to London all the way to London to play Palace in the cup game that we had at one so you blame me after the match obviously I don’t think you said much after the game you would just let me take the wrap for it he just punched me in the chest yeah i don’t think he said much to you did he did he no nothing i’m like I got away with that one punch me as well did he yeah yeah yeah he punched me at Villa away we drew 1-1 i saved a penalty from David Platt and obviously I was it was wasn’t a bad result you’re buzzing after the game and at Villa Park the tunnel is down at the bottom corner so I’m waiting waiting for Nigel [ __ ] to come down to shake hands as keepers do um I’ve shook hands with the referee as he’s walking past me next minute he grabs me and says get remember the stairs were like that yeah villa get up them stairs so I get in the dressing room and I’m like I’m and I’m like watching him like this like what have I done i haven’t done anything wrong anyway I goes and gets where I’m getting changed and uh I’m taking my shirt you I’m taking my shirt off like that and as I’ve got to about there he’s come for me he’s he’s hung my shirt on the peg and started like digging me right what you doing what you doing if I ever see you shake hands with a referee after a decision like that son he said “I’ll do more than punch you in the stomach.” Right is he mad him in all that see it was going on back then with the ref like Pierce had to jump in and like stop him was proper sending in at me like sending it at me but even at the end I didn’t respect him for it yeah the few years I was there people were saying he was finished back then brian Klopp was finished he’s lost the plot we got to Cup finals in three years it would be great if we won the cup was he doing your best nor in the cup final and yet everyone’s saying Brian Cup was finished yeah yeah yeah nearly what’s your best Brian Cluff story so you’re on the after dinner circuit now what’s the sort of stories that you would tell i think the one that goes down the best is what and and a lot of people don’t believe it is like I made my debut against Liverpool through a little bit of luck really cuz uh first team goalie Steve Sutton had gone down with a virus it was a night game so he couldn’t play um Han Seagars was on loan at Wimbledon and then we got a couple of more a little bit older than me uh that probably weren’t good enough and I was coming through with the reserves pretty well in that so I played against Liverpool the following Saturday we got Newcastle away but Steve Sutton the first team goalie has now trained all week so I thought I’m not going to play well he kept me in we won 1 nil then the following Saturday he kept me in again we beat Coventry in FA Cup after the game against Coventry I didn’t know but it was time to take me out the team then like I’m 19 i’ve come in I can do it he’s got his his goalkeeper for the next 10 years or whatever um but I just cuz I was on such a high as I’m leaving the dressing room I just turned around and said to the lads “Thank you for the best 10 days of my life that you’ve just given me i can’t believe actually what’s just happened but see you on Monday.” And he goes “Where do you think you’re going i’m going home where’s home i said I live in Barnsley they said “My house tomorrow morning 9:00 bring your boots and it would help if you bring your gloves as well.” Long story short his son Simon Kloff was the manager of a team in the Darbisha Sunday league division five and they haven’t got a goalkeeper on this morning so I’ve gone to his house not knowing what’s happening with my boots and gloves thinking what why why am I here what am I doing and his wife Barbara answers the door she said “Come on in.” And Brian’s upstairs he’ll be down so Brian Cluff comes in the kitchen in his house and he said “Thank you for agreeing to play for Simon’s team this morning they haven’t got a goalkeeper and I thought you’d do.” So I ended up playing for his son’s Sunday league team Coventry the day before playing as a ringer in the in his son Sunday league team i hardly ever touch the ball it was just like bring you back down to earth type of thing right and the team got fined a record find for playing a ringer which was me they got the points taken off them they got fined 50 quid and Cluffy took the 50 quid out of my way he made me he made me pay the fine that’s cuz you he obviously you were getting carried away by saying see you lads overstepping that level playing field how he’s recognized that instantly that psychology was shown to you during Was he watching the game he was watching the game he shouted over during the game i’m not allowed to swear am I he used to call me [ __ ] house all the time maybe swearing any now he just some he used to call me imbecile he used to call me Bzer which is where I was from he used to call me Jigsaw there’s another story about that i I asked him why he was call started calling me Jigsaw and his answer was every time the ball comes in the box you go to pieces right so but at the game the Sunday league game he used to go and watch he used to go and watch on a Sunday morning he’d have his dog and he’d be a couple of football pitches away and he shouted during the game [ __ ] house so I look over and he stood like that at least he went to the game though you know what I mean like he’s done that i love the stories i love the stories on him no but if he felt a player was getting carried away with that he done it to loads of players yeah he did he was hard remember Loco my buddy remember Laco played a couple of first lock never played he played two or three games and after he said something in the training one time he gave a ball to Pierce or Nigel was short and he said sorry lads and apparently he writer what you saying sorry for he said he was finished after that like you’re in ase players or something finished after that never played again for the first wow just for saying sorry saying like sorry I didn’t give like a perfect pass or n you know who I was and he said what you apologizing for says he never just a player just not having the right maybe mindset or whatever it might be are getting carried away would he be different with Stuart Pierce as the character yeah one 100% pier could Pierce could do what he want couldn’t he yeah to a certain extent pier stories as well oh Pier well the best one but Pierce you remember he said to us but when he made his he got called in for England and Brian Cluff called like Piery I was a younger player but Pierce had a lot of power he’s captain of England yeah but he’s he’d be still on his case remember the Pierce got called for England the manager pulled him in piery said this story before and the manager said “Do you think you’re good enough like for England?” And Pierce was like “Pierce is obviously buzzing he’s got call up for England.” And he says “Yeah yeah do Gaffford.” And he went “I don’t think you are now get out of my office.” That was the Pier pierce obviously tells it better than me that was Stuart Pierce just keeping everyone grounded don’t be getting carried away with it there was a story with the Iron as well weren’t there where um Yeah yeah uh when when Piery played non-league he was an electrician by trade and he used to get an an advert in the in the program Stuart Pierce electrician and the gaff has spotted it like any so he’s obviously thought about it and one day he’s walked in with a shopping bag and the ball that I said that was on the towel he’s knocked the ball off and put the bag down and stepped back and said to Piery about the the electrician what What’s all that about on page nine Steuart Pierce electrician if if if Barbara’s light bulb goes out and she calls that number you’re not really coming are you to change it no my brother is and then he walks over to the bag and he pulls out an iron and he said “Barbara’s iron’s buggered.” He says “If you don’t mend it you ain’t playing Saturday.” He mended the iron and put it on his on his desk on so madness honestly g madness but genius yeah so your next job you need to buy a cricket ball and iron well that’s a brilliant finish to a great episode and great to have you on unbelievable story so thanks very much [Music] he never spoke about his career saving penalties in cup finals oh let’s talk about that now matis say one of Mat the only one that saved Matizio’s penalty wasn’t he yeah he took 48 yeah and he missed he missed one yeah l’s in the final yeah yeah wow yeah um it was weird because Matt actually sent me a picture cuz it was at the Dell the old Dell and it’s an instate now and Matt sent me a picture uh that that end is now called Crossley Place and I didn’t believe it wow so the end that he missed his penalty they’ve named the estate after no after football players all right and that end was is crossly play because because of the penalty miss only one from M yes so I think there’s only been three missed in a final in normal time penalties myself and Pete pete yeah did you have some good nights out together can you remember um the Jersey ones were good weren’t they you know like when I was midseason I don’t remember oh was it you that put I had a fight with a a hockey team or something the full team there was a few of them yeah was you remember we went out for an Indian can you remember and uh you said “What’s the artist curry?” Was it you or was it Gary Parker and he said “Oh it’s a a Tinderoo or something.” Tinder so the hotel where we were staying the Grand Hotel they had little dips on the side and uh was it not you that emptied all the dips and put the tinderoo in in in the in the things so as business people were coming in and that and they’re dipping the mini chips the ch the dips they’re dipping it in this tinder and we’re all sat there watching like so they’re putting it in the mouth like can I take credit for wife sent me back from Jersey yeah in the bar to get a something signed yeah someone threw a drink over me why cuz you wouldn’t sign it no cuz I’d already signed something from him and I just said “How many do you need?” Oh and uh the true drink over me what happened next i said that’s unacceptable yeah well he sent me back the next day yeah he sent me back on a flight wow two days early the good days huh nice days great days howard nice one brilliant nice one brilliant [Music] [Applause] heat heat