Set the tone for a successful NFL season with our 2025 fantasy football mock draft for 12-team PPR redraft leagues!
Does Minnesota Vikings WR Justin Jefferson still deserve to be a top-five pick with uncertainty under center? Plus, where do veterans like Baltimore Ravens RB Derrick Henry & San Francisco 49ers RB Christian McCaffrey belong?
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27:39 Round No. 4
33:40 Round No. 5
40:30 Round No. 6
43:51 Round No. 7
49:25 Round No. 8
51:20 Mock Draft Analysis
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We are approximately 100 days away from the 2025 NFL season kicking off and we’re celebrating that as we battle it out in a 12 team PPR fantasy football mockdraft. All this and more. It’s a brand new episode of the IBT podcast coming right at you. I’ve been going dummy out of bounds putting on a clinic. Stick around. Carrots in my hardware. KC got him in the crosshair. Look at me being the guy. Call him Mr. MVP. Keep your ass on the bench by my NPC. Earn my stripes like I fix this league. Your dogs on the turf. My dogs in the street. You can find me somewhere in between. Never a dog moment like a movie scene. About to do the ops like I did this beat. Let them keep talking. RG3 coming to you live. This is the Inbetweens fantasy football [Music] podcast. All right. All right. All right. And welcome in to the Inbetween Fantasy Football Podcast. Your place for both a refreshing and feelgood take on fantasy football and NFL gambling. Tonight, we reveal the results of our first reddraft mock of 2025 and leave it up to you, the IBT family, to let us know who are the winners and who are the losers. I’m your host, Seth Wilcox, feeling fresh after a week away in the beautiful city of Punaana. And uh I got to say, boys, that was like my first legitimate vacation probably about five years uh years. So, uh, in large part that’s thanks to you guys, the amazing team we have here at IBT, including a man who, uh, nearly had a pull at Tyler Owens last night where if you feel it, you ride it, surviving the storms in South Texas. He’s a big business light ranching son of a gun. He’s Eric Rooff. Eric, how you feeling coming off the first mock draft review of the season? Feeling pretty good about my performance in this mock draft. Uh, feeling pretty good about the summertime vibes here in South Central Texas. That means sometimes twisters are in the air, but no one’s feeling as good about the summertime vibes as our guy Seth. Look at this shade of bronze my guy is walk rocking tonight. He’s out here. He’s out here looking like a brand new man. You’re just out here golden crispy sun-kissed. You got me ready to sit by the pool. I’m here for it. Yeah, dude. I’ll tell I’ll tell you what. It’s a little bit of red right on the right on the nose, too. Um, did my best. I was bathing in 70 all all week, man. Bathing that SPF 70. Couldn’t do enough. But yeah, feeling rested. Um I don’t know if I’ll ever like look at I’m a big like daquiri guy. In the first three days I was there, I consumed a lethal amount of daquiries. And yes, I do not know if I’ll be like by by the fourth day, I didn’t have a daiquiri. I just started running tears from there on out. This is actually this is a this is a known thing. I know that last time we were on these airways, we were talking about the boot and rally. The the idea of getting into vacation mode and starting with the fruiest frozen drink that you can get down here, we call it throwing junk. Got to throw a little junk to start the day and that that just sets the trajectory for the rest of the trip. I love it. A little throwing junk. Uh, also speaking of throwing junk, we welcome back the show Otani of the IBT family. He’s an expert in golf, entertainment, and of course, yes, fantasy football. He’s Jake the Snake Perry. Jake, how are you hanging as the uh calendar flips to June this weekend? And have you uh been on that dairy train before as well on vacation? You know, I I typically don’t go for the daquiries, but I can mess up a Mai, so I I’m in the same same general area as you. I’m also really glad you brought up the red on your nose when he was talking about your sheen because I was going to if you didn’t because Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer hosting the show over here. But hey, all that means to me is you had a great time. Oh, yeah. Boys, it was uh it was my big brother’s wedding. The uh the tarps came off at the at the wedding. It got rowdy at the end. The the the shirts were off for the boys. is I saw my 80-year-old granddad who probably one of the most proper sobbs I know out there in these streets and uh he he had a shirt off. He was dancing with the rest of us. I mean, it was great. It was a great time, but uh excited to be back, too. I can’t be away from work. I can’t be away from the program that long. I hope everyone enjoyed our hot takes episode that we had out there for you last week as well. Um as noted tonight on the show, front and center mockdraft review. Also, before we get going, shout out to the IBT family who’s tuning in tonight. We appreciate you. We just crossed 1.5K subscribers, and we couldn’t have done it without your support. As always, please give this video a like if you enjoy this type of content. It’s the easiest way to support us, and subscribe if you’re new. Looks like we got Ben hanging out. Ben’s in the chat. Uh Ben will be uh writing up this mockdraft for the In Between Media website as well, so make sure you’re checking that out. Uh shout out to our editor and chief, Trash Sandwiches. She was banging out content last week in my place. That was pretty cool to see everything from like the Survivor season recap. We had some Formula 1 bets going out there. We had some golf. So, it it was a great week for the the channel and and for the site. Um, and while you’re on the site, consider getting a ticket to Draft Night Out. That’s our live fans football draft at the Fans Football Expo in Canton, Ohio this August. If you want to come draft with myself, Jacob, Eric, and two of our closest fans, football friends who are, I want to say, as big of Degenerous as us, but pretty dang close, this is the event for you. We’ll have a shot wheel spinning, giveaways going off, songs is singing, everything in between. The link in is in the episode description. Jake, are you ready for uh you ready for draft night out? I think that’s where I met you for the first time last year was at DNO and uh it it was a good time to say the least. Oh, yeah. It was a great time. And this year is going to be even better. Even if you guys don’t want to draft while you’re there, you can come hang out with me and rip 17 Miller lights. It’ll be a great time. Oh, there you go. There you go, baby. Love it. Uh let’s go ahead, guys. Let’s open up the uh the floor with our mock draft review in front and center. Sometimes taking that first step out the door is the hardest thing to do. Give it a chance. You’ll be begging for more. Save the spot just for you. We’re all somewhere in between. How about you come to the place? Ain’t got to worry about what it means. Come and give me another cuz the night is young. At least I’ So [Music] thought this just in breaking news front and center. All right, it’s front and center. We’re breaking down our first mock draft for reddraft formats of the season. 12 teams, full point PPR because that’s how we roll around these parts. And uh we’re going to go ahead and bring up the draft board below us. Again, you can also find the article if you want to read along with Ben and his thoughts on it at inbetweenmedia.com. And uh just to introduce some some of the people in this mock draft, we had a good mix of uh both just enthusiasts and fans and then also uh a good chunk of our analysts here at IBT as well. We had um my my buddy John drafting from the one spot. Steve who who isn’t here tonight, but our co-host Steve draft from the 102. Will ripping down the three. Uh we also had our business director Tyler Bradley he was in the the 104. Ben in the 105. Eric took the 106. My brother Austin, the newly wed in the 107 slot. My boy Udo in the 108. Uh, terrible gambler. Went up a thousand dollars the first night at the casino. We told him to walk away. Couldn’t kid couldn’t walk away. So, don’t expect his draft to be much better. Yeah. Right. You can’t walk away from a heater, dude. You like this is like it’s a track record thing though, right? Right. Like Eric, come on. Like this is this kid’s MMO. Always up big. always always ends up in the red at the end though. Oh yeah. I I think I think both statements are absolutely right. You cannot walk away from a heater, but you can take like a couple hundred bucks more than you walked up with and stick it in your bucket and ride out the heater. That’s what you got to do. You double your entry fee once you’re up big. That goes in the pocket and then you’re you’re truly playing with house money. Yeah, absolutely. Uh also looks like we got a guy Albert in the chat. What’s up, Albert? Good to see you, buddy. Uh Jake is going to be hanging out in the 109 slot tonight. And then we have our guy James in 110. James writes a lot of entertainment, also a lot of fantasy football content for him. I’m at the 111. And then Bo time over there right now live over there on the 19th hole as well on the channel tonight. Uh he he’s holding it down over there in the 112. Let’s get it started in round one. It goes 101 to Jir Chase, Jamar Chase, excuse me, for the Cincinnati Bengals. 102. It is Saquon Barkley to Steve. Will takes Bejian Robinson at the 103. CD Lamb at the 104. Justin Jefferson at the 105 to Ben. Eric, you were on the clock here at 106. Did you like how the board fell to you? Were you hoping one of these top five slid? And uh what was the ultimate pick for you? Yeah, I I was pretty comfortable with how the board unfolded. It seemed it seemed fairly typical, right? Um maybe not in the exact order of the first five that you always see, but these are generally the guys that come off the board. It’s why I decided to slot into the number six spot because I think that’s kind of the first decision point of most drafts and the choice that I made was for Puka. Um stepping back into his lead role for the Los Angeles Rams. There was I know some question marks as to whether or not Matthew Stafford would return uh for the upcoming season. We now know that he will be there and that connection is as good as gold in terms of fantasy production, right? You have Pukanakua who missed several games last year, only played 11 games, was still pulling in 106 targets, was number one in target rate, right? just an absolute volume monster in an offense that is centered around getting him into motion, getting getting the the ball in his hands in space and and really looking to, you know, to advance the ball by way of the air. They do a lot of throwing in the red zone. They do a lot of throwing to the end zone. So, you know, for me, stability in his situation is is coveted and I’m perfectly comfortable taking him at the 106. Yeah, I’d be really happy with Puka at the 106. I love the 105, too. I think if I can get Justin Jefferson at the 105, like sign me up. I think that’s probably my favorite position to draft. So, I think Ben’s off to a great build there with Jay Jet there. Uh like like honestly, I I’d almost like rather have a four or five and six and I think anything um currently. Um but going down, we have the 107 Jir Gibbs and then it’s a Monro St. Brown to Udo Udo at the 108. And then Jake, you come in here at the 109. What was your strategy and who did you ultimately go with? My strategy uh is pretty much always going to be who I view as the best player available and for me that was Malik Neighbors. It was a pretty no-brainer pick for me. We just watched the best rookie wide receiver season that we’ve ever seen. He gets a severe quarterback upgrade to say the least. regardless of if the starter is Jackson Dart, if the starter is um Jameus Winston, if the starter is Russell Wilson, like whoever is starting there is better than what he dealt with as his quarterbacks in 2024. So, we get, you know, a severe upgrade there. Even as a rookie put up uh quarterback six and points per game numbers, so or wide receiver six, sorry. I’m getting him here at wide receiver six and I’m expecting a bigger season. I would I have neighbors in in my dynasty ranks as my wide receiver too. And I think in reddraft I I feel like one nine is almost as far as you can imagine him dropping. I wouldn’t imagine being able to get him any later than this. So in looking at what was available, it was pretty much just an instant click for me. Yeah, I know Steve is all in on Malik Neighbors this year. I I also am. I think he does have legit wide receiver one overall upside. the quarterback play is improving. Like, you know, you can have the conversation about how much, but I definitely think, yeah, I I would argue over, you know, Danny Dimes and and Tommy Devito, Drew Lock, I would much rather have what what they’re dealing with out there with Russell Wilson, potentially Jackson Dart or Jameus Winston. So, I I like that pick a lot at the Nine, the 110, Nico Collins. I went Ashen Genty at the 111. And look, I get it. It’s going to be a little bit tough sledding just from like an offensive line standpoint, I think, from the Raiders. Like, they don’t have a great offensive line by any means, but there’s still a lot to get excited about a guy who’s coming off a Heisman runnerup season. Not only can he run downhill, make people miss, but at the same time, he is a lethal pass catcher we saw back in 2023 in a Chip Kelly offense. It’s going to be high volume. It’s going to be fast-paced. And he’s playing in a backfield right now, boys, that it’s Raheem Oster, Sierra McCormack, Zamir White, Dylan Lob. So, I I think it’s going to be Ashton Genty, time to eat. And I’m I’m going to go with the hero RB approach. I don’t love going uh running back here at the 111. I was thinking about maybe taking like a Brian Thomas and seeing who who would maybe fall back to me. Um, and it seemed I could get Genty, but I know uh Bo has a little bit of a thing for the Raiders, so I thought I wouldn’t I wouldn’t see him again. And speaking of the Raiders, he does make a pick for the Raiders at the 112. It is Brock Bowers to round us out in the first round. Jake, any surprises for you in in the first round? Do you think this is kind of how it should go? Muted, Jake. Thanks for that. Forgot that was my bad. figured nobody wants to hear my dogs barking in the background. Um, but I think really the only change we’d see in most uh drafts, especially in home leagues, I would imagine uh Derrick Henry probably goes in Genty spot. I feel like, you know, home leagues especially, you’re going to see a lot more of the the older, you know, more powerhouse traditional running back going there. But overall, I really don’t think there’s too many surprises here. I personally wouldn’t go a tight end in the first round, even as generational as I think Brock Bowers is. Agreed. I think you can just get better value as I got later. Um, that we’ll talk about here. Other than that though, I think it’s pretty straightforward. If you want to make an argument that Bowowers was taken too early, the next like four guys we’re going to talk about all could have gone there and it would have made sense. And Bowowers falls in that tier for me as well. So, I don’t I really don’t think there’s anything too out of line in this round. Erica, who do you think will be the biggest mo riser or faller in ADP in first in the first round over the next three or so months? From the guys drafted in the first round, it’s probably Ashton Genty, right? Uh we’ve seen uh far inferior running backs get steamed up more than uh than a player of Gent’s caliber, right? and you know taking him in the first round for my money is a bit of a reach just because I don’t like taking running backs in the first round generally. So, um I’m not necessarily the target art the target market for, uh that type of move, but you know, we go back to like the Clyde Edwards Hilair hype, right? Obviously, that is, you know, the worst case scenario. I don’t think that’s well represented. I was thinking more Seaquan. I was thinking more Saquon rookie year is what I was hoping for. Sure. Yeah, he can he can have a a fine rookie campaign by by all statistical measures and he would probably still underwhelm relative to where he’s being drafted. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we get into late July and into August and we see him as like a top five, top four pick, right? People love the new shiny thing. Um I’m already a little bearish with where he’s going and I think he can still keep creeping up the board. Okay, at the 2011 it was Brian Thomas Jr. that Bo goes with. That was a heartbreaker. I was really hoping BTJ would fall back to me. Instead, I settled for Drake London at the 2-2, which like I don’t feel great about, but this was still a guy who was a top five wide receiver last year overall when he was dealing with Kurt Cousins at quarterback and just not a great offense overall. Didn’t bring in a ton more. They still got Darnell Mooney hanging around. They still have Kyle Pitts in the mix. We’ll see if he can take another another step forward now that Michael Pennix Jr. is under center. But Drake London, it feels safe. It doesn’t feel sexy. is not really where I wanted to go with my my second round pick. Um, but it is where I fall. Josh Allen at the 203 to James. And then Jake, what do you do with the 24? Yeah, when when Dererick Henry’s on the board, I I brought his name up earlier. I’d take him in the first round. So, seeing him there at 204 again, just a pretty easy click for me. I mean, regardless of age, the dude’s 31, is in better shape than 90% of 18 year olds in the world and every age in between. The guy is just a freak. He’s coming off the best year we’ve seen him have since 2021 when he got hurt. If you look at his last six years, starting back in 2019, running back four in points per game, running back three, running back one, albeit injury shortened season, running back four, running back 16 on that horrible, horrible Titans team, and then running back four again last year. It’s just a pretty pretty smash pick for me. If he gets hurt and this is the year that, you know, he finally goes away, so be it. The upside is the upside is simply too good to pass on at this point. Yeah, it’s it’s one of those things like I got burned by him. I went back in on Derrick Henry in 2023. I was out in 2024 and then but the the touchdown equity is just so high, right? Like the touchdown equity is just going to be insane again. And and like they just don’t want to run Lamar there. So I’m I’m back in I’m back in on Henry at the 24. Like honestly, if I could have looking back at this, I could even start out Genty and Henry. I would not mind that. I I I think that’s a great value. I really like the start of your team, Jake. Uh we’ll talk about if I like the rest of it here later on. Lad McConi at the 25, Tyreek Hill at the 26, and then Eric, what do you do with the 27 after taking Puka in the first? So, I double up on the wide receiver position and I welcome Jack Jackson Smith and Jigba to the team at the 27. A lot of the overarching thought is I’m looking for uh guys that bring legitimate ceiling but also have a very very safe volume floor. And I think that is the best way to describe what we uh what we project JSN’s 2025 season to be. uh you know a bit of a a wobbly start to the beginning of last year and still finished 12th in targets at the position 137 looks and now you have Clint Kubak enter this offense and we know exactly what he’s trying to do. He’s trying to leverage that zone with play action. He’s trying to get guys into space. He’s trying to do a lot of short and intermediate routes and let guys create yards after the catch. That’s precisely what JSN specialized in last season. number seven in yards after catch on on the 2024 campaign. And you just look around him and I mean maybe if you want to plant your flag on this being, you know, the the revitalization of Cooper Cup this year, fine. But, you know, by and large, he is the clear alpha among this wide receiver core. So, I feel like the the pairing of these two picks together gives me that that beautiful floor and ceiling combination I want to I want to leave the early rounds with. Yeah. I don’t want to glaze anyone up on the program, but definitely like the starts for everyone uh here joining us tonight. AJ Brown then goes at at the 208, which I think is a great value for him. I love what Tyler does here. He goes Christian McCaffrey at the 209 after taking Lamb in the first round. I think that’s a great double up. Achan goes to Will after taking Bejan in the first. Garrett Wilson at the 211. And then it’s Jonathan Taylor to round out the second round. I I don’t really think there’s any big surprises here in the second round. Like it it does feel weird for me that JSN is now a second round pick, but that’s just because I got him everywhere last year for an eighth round pick, and he was an absolute monster. So, I think it’s just like me coming to that reality. I I I think Achan at the end of the round feels pretty good to me as well. I felt like that was a very good value. I mean, I’ve seen Achan sometimes pop into the first round of reddrafts right now, Jake. Yeah, I’ve seen it as well. I don’t love it. I’ll never love it. Um it’s just it’s too many things with Han for me. You know, if you look at his numbers with Tua, they’re phenomenal. As soon as Tua is gone, it’s a problem. Han himself, I know he hasn’t really gotten hurt severely yet. He’s still an injury risk at his size. There’s just too many question marks for me. I like that he did it with Bejon, though. I think he, you know, you get that ceiling of both running backs where Bejon is kind of more your floor. And then later on in the draft, too, he took a couple guys that I think offer a solid enough floor as well at the running back position that it makes the upside make sense. It’s It’s just not a pick I’m gonna make. Same with Christian McCaffrey at the 29. It’s not a move I’m really going to do really. I old guy older guy coming off of dual Achilles tendonitis. There’s just too like if he if he starts falling into the third round, I’m in. But second round, there’s just too many good names still there for me. Is there a big gap for both of you between Henry and McAffrey and Achan? Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. So, that’s kind of like the first Would you say Henry kind of like rounds out like the elite running back tier for you? There’s maybe one or two other guys that got taken after. Oh. That I would I would include in that tier personally, but I wouldn’t knock people if they didn’t have those guys there. Okay. Josh Oh, go ahead, Eric. No, I was I was just going to agree with with Jake’s point there. I think there are a couple of guys that might make like a little micro tier after Henry, but before you get into that CMC conversation, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re thinking about the same guys. Yeah. Josh Jacobs at the 301, Bree Hall at the 302 to Steve. I I I that was I saw that one coming from a mile away knowing Steve T. Higgins at the 303, Will’s first wide receiver, Kairen Williams off the board at the 304. Bucky Irvin now going at the 305 to Ben. And then Eric, what do you do with the 306? You’ve addressed wide receiver at the beginning of the draft. Do you pivot to a different position here? I do. Yeah. I decide to go with my anchor running back and that being uh one of your favorites, Chase Brown of the Cincinnati Bengals, a player that was one of the highest volume, highest usage players at the position last year. Um, kind of like I was talking about for a different reason with Puka Nakua a few rounds ago, a player that had legitimate question marks about what his role was going to be heading into the season and if there was going to be stability therein or in his case for Brown if they were going to bring in competition for workload. And by and large, the Bengals haven’t exactly done that. So, uh, stop me if you’ve heard this before. really put a covet and a a premium on uh on volume floors when I think about my early round targets and uh you know Chase Brown went out there and and completely delivered. I know that there was concerns about where he was drafted. I know there was concerns about his size overall, but now we have a considerable sample size of him being able to do it, him being able to translate that uh that that lower level school production to the NFL level and to do so while largely staying healthy. So happy to have him here as my as my anchor RB in the third round. You just shot take take a shot at Illinois fans. What was that? Come on, bro. Dude, Illinois’s got like honestly It’s fair. It’s fair. You can take the shot. As an Illinois native, I’ll let you take the shot. I I haven’t seen I haven’t seen the odds yet for There are not odds to make the college football playoff. Illinois is worth a flyer, boys. Illinois is worth a flyer. And that’s like like Chase Brown when he was at Illinois, man, he he straight up was I mean he had Christian McCaffrey work workhorse type numbers that Chris McCaffrey was putting up at Stanford both through the air and on the ground. We saw that last year. I’m completely in on Chase Brown the 306. Like let let me shout out a couple a couple Chase Brown at the 306 or where McCaffrey and Achan went. M I I’m not the biggest Brown guy. I would probably take Achan over him, but I wouldn’t take CMC over him. Eric, I would take I would take him over both. Um the injury concern with Achan would be the would be the tiebreaker for me. Bree Hall, Josh Jacobs, same I’m comfortably taking both of them over Chase Brown. I would take Hall over Chase Brown. I I agree with that. I agree with that. Okay. Uh Lamar Jackson at the 307. Second quarterback goes off the board. Jane Daniels at the 308. Trey McBride then at the 39. What’s got you jones in for another lap around the McBride? Uh a guy who what has five touchdowns in three seasons. Hey, that six touchdowns. Thank you very much. Sorry. Sorry. But it again, like we, you know, like Eric’s talked about pretty, you know, pretty heavily so far. Just the volume is too good to pass up. really added almost no legitimate competition to the room there. He’s coming off a 147 target season. I think we’re going to see an improved Kyler again this year as he’s more comfortable in that system and another year removed from injury. And when you can get 15 and a half points per game out of a tight end, you’re going to be happy with that production pretty consistently. And if you look at the wide receivers that come off the board after it, there’s not a whole lot of them that are I’m like super super confident can put up that number. Running back wise, we’re at a tier that I avoid generally pretty heavily. So for me, it was just I see McBride, I click McBride. Yeah, I completely understand it. At the 310 is Terry McLuren. I went there at the 311. I go Devonte Adams. It was between him and Marvin Harrison Jr. to me. like Marv’s more fun, but I just like and I I haven’t taken Devonte in a couple years just because I I’ve been worried the falloff’s coming and I think it’s just going to be solid. I I I think in in Los Angeles, man, like I think Puka is definitely the wide receiver you want there. But at the same time, even in an offense with Garrett Wilson last year, he he goes into New York, he still puts up uh on pace for 1300 yards, double digit touchdowns once again. And I I don’t think Matthew Stafford is any bit of a downgrade to what Aaron Rogers was last year. So I do like Adams there. It’s it’s not a pick I feel great about, but uh then we go into the fourth round and it was Omar and Hampton off the board at the 401. Great pick I think there to bow. I take Mike Evans at the 402. So h how do you like my receiver so far, Eric? Do you like him at all? Devonte Adams third round, Mike Evans fourth round. I feel like I have a lot of upside, but also um some old heads that I wasn’t super fond of of taking. Yeah. Um I love your London pick. I wouldn’t be upset at all if you swapped uh London and Genty with London being your first round selection. Um I I think his upside I mean we we’ve seen his upside last year and we’ve seen what he can do with subpar quarterback play. Um I think I think he still has a lot left in the clip. Uh you you mentioned a couple of guys that are a little bit longer in the tooth. I am a known and proud aegist. Yeah. So this is probably a little early for guys like that, but also like none of these things, you know, rankings, ADP, whatever. None of these are compiled in a vacuum, right? Like if you look at the context of the board, I I think you you went with some of the, you know, the better available options for the positions you were looking to fill, right? So I’m not going to begrudge you on those picks. I just I I always get a little nervous about old dudes. Um especially when we’re kind of doing the countdown clock of like I know the fall-off’s coming one of these years. It is. It is. Eventually it’s going to come and I’m going to feel real silly if it’s this year if I spend a third round pick on them, right? So I I think I think all told they’re they’re fine selections, but I would feel a little uneasy about it. Oh yeah, 100% did when I kind of made those back-to-back picks, but sometimes you got to risk it for the biscuit a little bit. And you know, Mike Evans, another guy just continues to put up wide receiver one seasons year after year. And and they’re both on good offenses. That’s the one thing I like, right? two two I mean we don’t know what the switch of offensive coordinator will do to the Bucks but Baker’s coming off a year career best 40 plus touchdowns and and Adams is going to be locked and loaded as long as Matthew Stafford can keep the shoulder and healthy and himself upright. James Cook at the 403 then it’s Jaylen Herz to you Jake at at the 404. I I like the pick of Jaylen Herz at the 404. I think it’s it’s a good value especially with the tush push likely staying around as well. I don’t love going with two onesies positions back up though. While I understand it, there’s not a quarterback left that gives me the upside that Jaylen Herz offers in my opinion. So, this was a ve again just a very easy pick for me. I know I’m getting 20 plus points a game out of my quarterback and it’s now something I don’t have to think about for the rest of the draft. I from here on out I can just continue to let value fall to me. There’s always a at this point there’s always going to be tier breaks for me where I feel comfortable with any of the guys in the tier. If I don’t get Jaylen Herz as my quarterback, I start to not like any of the quarterbacks and I’m always like I get into that kind of position where it’s like, oh, I can wait more one more round on this guy. No, I couldn’t. I can wait one more round on this guy. Couldn’t do that one either. So, I I feel comfortable just locking up my quarterback production relatively early. And it’s not for me. Like I think going Allen in the second or or getting a quarterback in the second or third is a little too much of a reach for me. But when I can get elite production in the fourth round. True. Regardless of position, I’m I’m just going to take it. Especially when you look at a few of the guys that went right after, like the point disparity in the end of the day, positional value does matter. But regardless, total points that my guys are going to score matters as well. And what I’m gonna get out of Herz is greater than any of the remaining players on the board. Chuba Hubard off the board at the 405. Kenneth Walker off the board to my brother at the 406. And then Eric, you take DJ Moore at the 407. This probably the first first pick you make here that I don’t necessarily love just because it is a crowded offense. Does that not concern you here with DJ Moore? Uh yeah, it is a it is a valid concern, right? Um I I I mean you need only to bust out the abacus and say that there are uh many many mouths to feed in this offense and it’s not perfectly clear who is going to to take priority and precedence. But for for me there’s there’s really two things that that drive this decision. one. Um I am a big fan of of Johnson coming in as the head coach and what it means for this offense and offense that um threw to the red zone or through in the red zone at the third highest rate in all of the NFL last year. But also I’m a big fan of DJ Moore’s talent, right? We think about what coach Johnson likes to do. He likes to scheme guys up. He likes to get a lot of motion working. He likes to uh he likes to find ways to scheme players open and let their let their ability to separate and their ability to generate yards after the catch do the rest of the work. And that is precisely what DJ Moore specializes in. Number three in yards after catch last year, number five in average target separation over two yards per play. So, this is a legitimate gamble because it could be that they drafted Luther Burden to be the new DJ Moore or it could be that they have a known commodity who is very very good at the things that this offense has proven to want to do in the past and I’m going to feel happy with DJ Moore as my fourth round pick. So, fair fair play that it you know it is a gamble but one that I’m willing to make at my wide receiver three spot. Ben keeps cooking at the 408. He goes with Tedaroa McMillan. Courtland Sutton off the board to Tyler at the 409. Rasheed Rice will looking to gamble a little bit on his Guy Rice in back-to-back years at the 410. Alvin Kamara off the board at the 411. Chris Godwin coming off the board at 412. Interesting ADPs for both those guys. I thought Rashid Rice and Godwin just considering both health injuries, I don’t think I could be that aggressive on either one of those guys in drafts. Um Joe Mixon coming off the board at the 501. I think that’s a great deal for Joe Mixon. Honestly, he’s another guy like clock’s ticking, but he he’s still got control as of now. Xavier Worthy at the 502. Also Z Flowers at the 503 to Will. And then George KD 504. And I I think I love Ben’s like first four picks in this draft. He he went just Jefferson, AJ Brown, Bucky Irving, and then McMillan in the fourth. But TJ Hawinson in the fifth, it’s a no for me, dog. It’s a no from me. No way. I I can’t get I can’t get behind it. Jake, I can I love Hawinson in the fifth. Dude, here’s here’s my argument for it. All right. If you look at TJ Hawinson prior to the injury, tight end two, tight end four, tight end seven. Dude, I was a huge Hawinson guy. I just I I think that time’s passed. Man, I while I understand that this is an offense that has a great leader who understands how to use their guys. Hawinson kind of got slowly incorporated back into the offense yet still recorded he recorded two nine target games in his first four games back. One of those being on a 45% snap share. Like the volume upside of Hawinson sap surpasses almost every other tight end. Do I think he could have waited around and still gotten Hawinson? Sure. Um, and I think that’s mostly what my issue with the pick would be. But overall, I like in general, I don’t hate it because I I you you struggle to get true tight end one upside. Everybody else after those after KD essentially, it’s kind of like who’s really going to be the next guy. We don’t know. I’d rather chase the volume there than some of the big play upside we get out of other tight ends. So, I don’t hate it. I do think it’s a round early, but if you flipped his picks, like if you flipped Hawinson in his sixth round pick, I wouldn’t take that guy in the fifth round. But I don’t think it seems as outrageous. It seems a lot like the uh Detroit draft year where they took Gibbs and Campbell and then it’s like if we just flip the positions of their first two first round picks with their two second round picks, we’re not saying anything. So like that’s just kind of what it boils down to for me. I I just don’t think it’s a terrible way to lock up your tight end position. Eric, I touched on it last week in our hot take show, but DK Metaf is someone I’m aggressively targeting in drafts right now just because if Aaron Rogers is the quarterback there in Pittsburgh, we know that he is just going to target the ever living crap out of DK Metaf potentially maybe seeing career highs in a couple different categories. My hot take is that he goes over 1300 yards in this Pittsburgh offense. It’s not a lot behind is Pat Frymouth. It’s a couple boys coming out of the backfield that we’ll talk about later in the show, but uh DK Metaf here at the 506. I almost took him at the 402. I’m going be honest with you. It was a tough decision. I’m that high on DK Metaf right now. I think you got a steal here at the 56. Yeah, I was I was thrilled to see him on the board uh here in the fifth round. Part of me was hoping that one of if not both of the KC receivers were going to fall to me, but they didn’t. And DK Metaf is a a worthy consolation prize one that I’m very happy with. Look, I I don’t think whether it’s Aaron Rogers or uh Kirk Cousins or player to be named later under center for the Steelers, I don’t think this is going to be an electric offense by any means. But um as was the case with three of my first four round picks, um you you look around the the competition that is going to be surrounding DK Metaf and it is thin to nil to none, right? He will dominate target share in this offense. Arthur Smith, you know, a bit more uh known for his prowess uh enabling the running game, but every time that he has a strong running game, he also has one big body receiver who’s able to do some work as the counter punch. Be it AJ Brown, be it Drake London, right? I think DK Metaf slots into this role. And you know, as we continue on through the fifth round and later into this mock draft, find me the next wide receiver off the board who is going to have an absolute strangle hold on the target volume in their offense that DK Metaf will. And I think you will be holding your breath for a while. I I 100% agree. Love the pick. 507 Jaylen Wadd 508 Devont Smith. I I can understand Wadd going here. It definitely feels like a good value for Smith, though. Um Wadd’s been disappointing in back-to-back seasons. Last year, I mean, he he killed you down the stretch. He he had one or two big games and in and out of the lineup. And and then Jake, you go Judkins at the 5’9. I think that’s a a really good value for a guy who while I do have, you know, some more question marks than I think some people do and I know you got and I have debated the the prospect, but there’s no debating the landing spot should be great. Dylan Samson will see some work. Jerome Ford will still be around as well, but Judkins uh should find the end zone quite often um more compared to to a lot of running backs you’re going to get here late in the fifth. Yeah, it was again just luckily for me in picking where I did in the nine spot here, I just got a bunch of no-brainer guys fall to me and that’s what champions was here. Like elite running back one upside. I’m not comparing him to, you know, elite the best of the best Nick Chub, but if he’s 80% of what Nick Chub was at his ceiling, this is a smash in the fifth round. Like we’re we’re talking one of the most athletic running backs in the class going to the best or second best potential landing spot amongst, you know, the first round or the early drafted running backs this year. Just a no-brainer, especially after watching Wadd and Smith go to me. I wanted Smith. I’m not going to lie. Yeah, Waddle hurt a little bit. I I Waddle would have been fun in the sixth. It was even less fun watching him go to the same team that has Tyreek Hill. So that that was tough, too. But Judkins like it was just it’s a a no like getting him at what like RB 19 or something in this draft. Like getting a guy I think could legitimately be a top five running back this year this late. Easy easy pick. Tyrone Tracy goes off the board at the 510. Not sure if I I love that pick by by any means, but um if you believe in in someone in the Giants backfield, it’s him or Scataboo. I go RJ Harvey at the 5’11, which I think’s a steal for Harvey, too. I I think this another guy who unlike Judkins, I think we’ll see quite a bit of pass catching work in this offense. We know Shawn Payeyton likes to do that. Um does have Jal Mclofflin that that will see some targets. I’m I’m sure that, you know, the rookie from last year, Audrey Esme, won’t just completely disappear, but I think RJ Harvey’s in in line for a good role. So, I love getting him there at the 5’11. Jordan Addison at the 512 to Bo, and then he goes Joe Burrow at the 61. Travis Hunter was my pick at the 62. I know I’ve kind of dogged Travis Hunter a lot, but I thought to get him as my high upside wide receiver for felt great in the sixth round. That was one um I was very, very thrilled with. Roman Dunes at the 603. Really like that pick as well. If you believe in Chris Olive, the talent, Jake, he’s also someone back in the mix for you at the 604, which I’m fine with it from a a pure talent perspective. Ju just got to hope he stays healthy. Yeah, it’s it was a riskreward pick. The best thing that ever happened was Derek Carr retiring for him. A will now be able to remember his name in 10 years. Um no more hospital balls hopefully. So it was just riskreward looking at the rest of the board. the the highest reward. The risk is there, but I feel so comfortable with the rest of my team and other guys I was able to pick later that I’m fine with taking that risk here. Sam Laaporta at the 605. Jerry Judy coming at the 606. Trayvon Henderson. Then to you, Eric at the 607. You kind of just follow Jake and I’s trend here. Get get in on some some rookie running backs in the middle rounds. It’s it’s usually a good strategy and uh it’s one that all three of us are investing in. It is. And this is where I will offer a public service announcement and then begrudge our humble host, Seth Wilcock. Um, whenever you’re in your draft on your platform of choice, scroll down. A lot of times players like Trayvon Henderson and Quinchon Judkins and RJ Harvey are buried in ADP until the system gets a number of JS running running through it. So, uh, don’t just go off of, you know, the next 10, 15 guys that you can see on the list. Go out there, know who you’re targeting, put them in your queue. Um, you know, Judkins, Harvey, Henderson, these are all guys that I think you could make a case for going, you know, 10, 12, 15 picks earlier than they did. Agreed. I would I would feel comfortable taking Judkins in the third round to be clear. Yeah. Uh, 100%. Uh, Trayvon Henderson, much like DK Metaf for me, was also a consolation prize. I was hoping that I would be able to hold my position as the Quinn Sean Judkins stands of this Airways. Fortunately, Jake had similar designs and took him out from under me, but happy to get Henderson here. Just absolute uh absolutely explosive dynamic out of the back field. I I I think the conservative estimate is he walks in and has all of the third down work available to him in New England, but given the age, given the inefficiency, given the fumbling problem, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him on the right side of the split with Andre Stevenson pretty early on in the year. So happy to get him as my RB2 at this point. It’s going to take one practice where they see both of them carry the ball and it’s going to be very clear who the who the starting running back should be in that room. Yeah, the guy with athleticism. Not to mention draft capital as well with with Henderson. So, love that pick there. Uh Javvante Williams goes at the 606 and Jame Williams, excuse me, goes off at the 6068. Uh James Connor next, Dave Montgomery, George Pickkins, and then Jacobe Meyers rounds out the first six rounds. We go into round seven. Old man Travis Kelce 701, Evan Ingram 702, Bran Iayuk 703, Ricky Pearalt 704, Patrick Mahomes off the board at the 705, and Khalil Shakir to you, Eric at the 706. Two questions for you. First, what’s the uh what’s it feel like to get Shakure here? You know, I’ve been a a guy from the streets, you know, from the back of the pack. You know, I’ve been yell, “Yo, this was going to be the Bills wide receiver won last year and uh he he came through for me. Very serviceable flex wide receiver two option last year. Are you going back there?” And what do you think of Patrick Mahomes off the board here, one pick before him? I know we’ve kind of been fading Mahomes, but in the seventh round, it feels weird just considering he’s always been a top four round pick uh at least in the last five or six years. Yeah, it’s uh it’s kind of interesting. You you walked through the sort of makeup of this draft room and it sounds like there are um you know, a fair share of of casual players, but the way that this mock draft unfolded with regard to the QB position actually feels pretty sharp, right? to be able to have Patrick Mahomes sitting here in the middle point of the seventh round. I think it’s fine value. Um it’s not a decision that I would make, right? If he was there for me in the next pick, I wouldn’t be clicking it. To Jake’s point earlier, I think after Jaylen Herz, uh it’s not just a tier break. It is a cliff. Um I would much rather go speculate in like the QB10 through QB20 off the board and try to find my diamond in the rough that way. But it’s it’s perfectly it’s a perfectly appropriate pick, right? I don’t think you can really poke too many holes in it. In terms of Khalil Shakir, my how the turntables, you were the one that was banging the drum for Shakir all season long last year. I was the one saying, “But he only plays twothirds of snaps, right?” Um, but at this point, part of the reason why I am always out here in these early rounds putting such a premium on volume is that when you have that volume floor of your top draft picks, you can take some risks, right? Khil Shakir is one of those per play efficiency darlings, right? You know, everything that he’s able to do given the limited amount of snaps that he saw last year about 60% is incredible. If he repeats that, I am a-okay with him sitting here as my wide receiver five. If he sees even just a marginal uptick in playing time, he could easily be a top 15, top 18, top 20 type player. So again, another risk that I am happy to take, especially when I look up at my first three rounds of of volume lords that are that are just stacking up that that floor for me. Off the board next, Isaiah Pacho, seventh round, seventh pick, Aaron Jones, Michael Pitman Jr. to you. And I I think he’s your wide receiver three. I don’t know. This is where it starts to go off the rails for me, Jake. I I don’t know if I can get behind uh Pitman here. There there just feels like a lot of question marks. He was a guy who wasn’t long into the season, five or six weeks, that was almost waverwire fodder last year. He was dealing with some pretty bad back injuries. I think we may all remember the week we woke up to the message uh Michael Pitman’s going to be out for the season and then like two days later like Michael Pitman’s starting. So clearly was something was going on with the back there, but still just 27 years old. Even last year with Anthony Richardson playing some of the worst quarterback we’ve ever seen in the entire history of the planet of Earth, he still pulled 111 targets and a lot of the other aspects of his game started to trend in the direction we really needed them to for Pitman to have a true true breakout season. his ADOT finally jumped back up to, you know, the the 1011 range as opposed to sitting in the 78 range it had been the couple years prior. The the red zone target share was good. The overall target share was good. The target rate was good. Like everything was good. The quarterback play was just bad. And I think it’s going to be pretty quick into camp that we get the news that Daniel Jones is going to be the starting quarterback. And this is not me, you know, glazing Daniel Jones in any way, shape, or form, but he’s a lot better for fantasy assets than Anthony Richardson ever will be. And I think Pitman’s still one of the only true kind of elite upside target earners left. Okay. And then we have a pair of Titans going off the board at the 710. Tony Pard, Calvin Ridley off the board at the 7-Eleven to me. And guys, I’m like starting to get pretty excited about Calvin Ridley. I think if I can get him here in the seventh round, honestly, just cuz I do believe in Cam Ward, I think more than most people. I think, you know, I’ve compared him to like an early career Joe Flacco. I think he’s a guy who’s not can be afraid to sling it and push the ball down the field. I think Calvin Ridley can be beneficiary of that. You know, we saw it a couple years ago with Trevor Lawrence. He had some really, really close calls to having some big touchdowns that were kind of just called back. He’d step out of the end zone, something like that. So, things go Calvin Ridley’s way. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was pushing towards double digit touchdowns. It’s really only him. It’s Van Jefferson, Tyler Lockett in the starting lineup. I do like some of the rookies they brought in in that position. They do have Jimry DK and Ello Manor coming out of Stanford as well. So, I think maybe those guys could start to push some of these veterans down the board, but not Calvin Ridley. He feels like a safe pick there. Naji Harris off the board at 712 to Bo. Uh, but Bo gets both Chargers running backs with Hampton also going in the fourth round to him. Brian Robinson Jr. at the 801. I go with Jaylen Warren 802. I I could have made an argument for either Steeler backs. They felt like ones I just wanted to be kind of connected to this run game. Jaylen Warren’s a guy who can get third down work. And I I imagine at least early in the season, I think he’s going to prop his value up a bit because while Caleb Johnson’s still getting a hold of the ropes, I think Warren will take, you know, the better for portion of a 50/50 split. John Smith off the board at the 83, Jake’s Darnell Mooney at the 84, Debo Samuel at the 85 to Udo, Austin rounds out his top eight rounds, Mark Andrews, Doninc Cade at the 87, Caleb Johnson to Ben at the 88. Eric, you you like the Concaid pick? You happy with that real quick? Uh, moderately. Um, I think that we’re kind of at a bit of a tight end cliff here. So, that’s part of the decision. Um, the second part of the decision is a lot of the analysis that I offered with Khalil Shakir, another player in Concincaid that from an efficiency standpoint was able to do a lot with not a whole lot of playing time. So, you know, part of my part of the story of these middle rounds for me is I believe we see a player emerge out of this Buffalo offense and get more time on the field. Um, also Daltton Concaid, you know, he was it wasn’t a loss season to injury by any means, but you look, you know, we we lost him in week 10 for three or four weeks and prior to that point, he was really starting to heat up. Seven, six, seven, six, seven, 10 targets in that stretch of games prior to that injury. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him maybe not live up to his draft capital, but step closer towards the the type of productivity you would expect from a player drafted that high. Caleb Johnson at the 88, Travis ETN at the 89, DeAndre Swift at the 810, Josh DS at the 811, and then Cooper Cup rounds us out of the top eight rounds. That’s all we’re going to go through tonight. Again, if you want more insight on our mock draft goer inbetweenmedia.com, Ben’s article will be out this week for you to check that out. Um, real quick before we get out of here, Jake, what did you think of your strategy? You went with a more balanced approach? Do you like what you see out there? Was yours the favorite draft you saw out of all of this? Any final thoughts? And um, yeah, thanks for being here, dude. Yeah, I appreciate you having me. The only change I would have made is I wish I wasn’t on the golf course and I had time to scroll down ADP and see that Caleb Johnson was still there at the 84 instead of Darnell Mooney. But otherwise, I love my draft. I don’t have Dalton Concade on my team, Eric, so I like mine a little bit more than yours, but I loved yours before that pick. Eric, I I have to say I think yours is my favorite draft. I I really like what you did with your receiver position. I don’t love DJ Moore in the fourth, but to get DK where you did, to get JSN where you did, Puka, Chase Brown, and Henderson feels like a really good running back combination and kind of punting quarterback to still get Caleb Williams later in the draft in the 11th. like you got some high upside there as well. So, well done, my friend. Thank you. I am I’m quite happy with it. Uh I took some calculated risks that we have now covered in exhaustive detail. And uh please, if you are undecided on what to do at the quarterback position, just wait. You go through and you look at guys like Baker Mayfield and Jaden Daniels and Jared Goff and Bo Knicks. Um, these are all guys that outscored uh several players that were drafted as the top four or five quarterback off the board. It gives you a lot of flexibility. So, that would be the direction that I head into most drafts with, at least in in my intentions. Yeah, I I agree with you. I I really like just kind of pounding away at receiver in the first four rounds as much as you can and then f finding that value in the middle rounds like we did with those rookie running backs, the Judkins, the Harveys, the Hendersons. feels like great value. I mean, James Connor if he can stay healthy. He’s been in RB1. Dave Montgomery if he can stay like there there’s a Aaron Jones in the next round. Paul, there feels like a lot of kind of value in that running back dead zone a little bit that we used to think of. Um, so I don’t mind pounding away at receiver like I did. To have Ashton Genty, RJ Harvey, Jaylen Warren, my running backs feels really good. Kind of going with that hero RB approach, but not even so much that still got pretty good wide receivers on my team as well. and um like Eric kind of punting on that uh that tight end position got Tyler Warren later uh at the 1212 CJ Stout the 111. So um really great stuff here tonight guys. Appreciate everyone who helped us out with this. Um easiest way to support us always here on Inetween Media is to make sure you’re subscribed to the channel. Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it as well. Uh, we’ve we’ve got NFL betting, college football betting, NASCAR betting, PGA betting, and entertainment betting. All to help you cash more, enjoy the ride along the way. We want to have fun while we do this, guys. Like, we don’t just do this to give you the information, brain dump on you. We we want to help you out and uh help you have fun along the way. That’s what we try to do over here. Be sure to check out inbetweenmedia.com. Read Ben’s mockdraft article. Upcoming live events are on there as well, including Draft Night Out and the IBT Classic out there at the Famous Football Expo. in Can Ohio this August for Eric Rooff and our guy Jake the Snake Perry. I’m Seth Wilco. Thanks for watching and keep it in between. Until next time. [Music]
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Damn Seth got TANNED… Final Destination tanning bed???
Also, Drake London THAT EARLY?!?!?!?!