THUNDER TAKE GAME 1, JORDON IS ENGAGED TO BE MARRIED + BIZ NASTY & CHRIS BERMAN

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00:00 Intro
03:15 Thunder 114, T-Wolves 88
15:30 Panthers 5, Hurricanes 2
30:00 Belichick & Jordon
39:00 WNBA Twitter Fight
56:00 Hot Seat – Cool Throne
01:21:50 Paul Bissonnette
02:02:06 Chris Berman
02:47:00 FAQ’s

The Thunder take Game 1 and it was a tough watch with SGA fouls. Panthers are a wagon and Hank got duped bad by AI. Jordon claims to be engaged to be married to Bill Belichick and Hank is going to the wedding. Ryan Clark vs RG3 got very personal in a feud over a basketball foul. Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Suns being the Suns again, NFL rule changes and more. Paul Bissonnette joins the show to talk Stanley Cup playoffs, the Leafs losing and where do they go from here, who’s going to win the Cup, glass banger is back and his time with Oldie. Chris Berman joins the show to talk about his new contract with ESPN which will get him to 50 years at the company, golf, Scottie Scheffler, and some NFL talk to get us fired up for the fall. We finish with listener submitted FAQ’s 

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So Hank, I will wait until uh you know, Miss Hudson and and Mr. Bellich report this themselves. I do not believe, you know, the New York Times, fake news media. This is just a report as far as I’m concerned. It sounds like it sounds like you It sounds like you don’t want to believe it because you don’t want it to be true, right? It sounds like Are you rooting against Bill’s happiness? No, I think everyone everyone should be deserved uh you know, in life, personal things, like everyone’s deserved the right to, you know, tell the world themselves. On today’s part of my take, we’ve got a twofur for the people. We’re talking hockey with our guy Biz Paul Bisette after his Leafs lose in game seven previewing the conference uh finals. We’re going to talk some Panthers who look real good. Uh we also have our good friend Chris Burman, the Schwam on the show to check in with him because he just signed his new deal at ESPN and he’s going to be there uh for 50 years. So, we’re we talked to him. 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Today is Wednesday, May 21st, and the Oklahoma City Thunder are going to win the NBA title. You’re probably right, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it, Big Cat. Yeah, the game doesn’t mean I have to like it. Yeah, the game game started. It was very funny that the game started and uh I think SGA had seven free throws in the first quarter. Um I I want to hear what you have to say because I agree with a lot of what you’re about to say, but let me just say this first. Oklahoma City’s defense is very [ __ ] good. They’re elite. They pack the paint so well. They make you take threes. They close out on those threes. The Wolves could not hit a three to save their life. I don’t know if the Wolves strategy of having their bench shoot 28 threes and hit like three of them is sustainable. Actually, I know it’s not sustainable, but that is a lot of credit to the Oklahoma City Thunder defense. Their defense is so goddamn good. And Chad Homegrren, I feel like, is going up another level. The way he was playing in the fourth quarter, how he impacts everything. He is so good. Their team is so good. Their defense is so good. I don’t They don’t have a weak link on defense. Uh, and yeah, SGA, the floor is yours, PFD. Okay, so you’re right. Credit to the Thunder. I think the Thunder are a good team. I think SGA is a phenomenal basketball player. I think he’s an awesome basketball player, but he doesn’t have to do this [ __ ] He doesn’t have to do it. It pisses me off watching him play. It pisses me off when they show the replays. I have to watch the foul baiting like three times in a row where I have to see the same nonfoul three times. You force the opposing coach to decide like, do I want to use a challenge right now on this or do I want to wait until later on in the game? Yeah, they would have won the game no matter what. They were the much better team tonight, but it pisses me off. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. And I don’t feel like being silent because it pisses me off watching SGA play. And Doris Burke is compromised, too. She’s comp she was like complimenting the foul baiting that he was doing. He just he leans into people at the last minute and then falls down. And to his credit, he’s very good at hitting these offbalance shots as he’s flopping. He practices those and he’s very good at it. And so you have to like take your hat off and be like, “That was a really good shot that you made when your body was like completely parallel to the floor as you were falling down because you didn’t get touched.” It that one he made on the uh baseline in the fourth quarter where he was he was literally on the floor and he he got he did get he did get fouled in that. No, it’s it’s it’s similar to the start of the playoffs when I said the same thing about Jaylen Brunson. I SGA is probably worse than Jaylen Brunson, but it’s they’re such good basketball players and it’s so annoying to have to watch that style of basketball. And I feel like Jaylen Brunson actually has kind of like not done it as much in the and he’s been so clutch and in such tight games. But SGA is is is the number one. He’s taken the mantle from James Harden. He’s the number one foul baiter. Uh, and he’s so good and but it’s it’s it’s partially rules like it’s got to something’s got to change because and maybe this will be if they win the title, which I think they will cuz I think they’re the best team, maybe something changed because it is not fun to watch uh when he is doing the foul baiting thing and he is such a good player. He’s about to win MVP and deservedly so, but it’s still you can you can say th those two things at the same time. You could say SGA is an incredible, incredible basketball player. I don’t enjoy watching it. Yeah. And if you’re a Thunder fan, you have to defend your guy. I get it. You’re gonna hate what I have to say about SGA. Like, I’m attacking your guy. So, yeah, I’m I’ll be the bad guy in this situation, but also everybody else thinks that it sucks to watch him. Everybody else that watches it, it’s it’s very tough to get through. Again, the the foul where you’re like, wait, what did they just call? and then two replays from different angles that you watch and you get progressively angrier as they keep showing these replays. I don’t know what they can do. May maybe it’s like in hockey where yeah, you have you’ve got penalties, you’ve got whistles, but in the playoffs you lose those whistles a little bit. Yeah. Well, whistles. You know what it’s you know what the shittiest part is? It it’s it’s it’s kind it’s very similar to like the Jaylen Brunson thing where we when it when it happens in a bad way, it takes away from how incredible Jaylen Brunson is, how clutch he is. When SGA does this, it takes away from how great the Thunder are as a team just because it’s aesthetically not a fun watch. And like that second half, the Thunder just suffocated the Wolves. The Wolves were just were terrible. I don’t think they had a single uh transition point the entire game that like I said they they basically were like go ahead shoot these threes and they’ll probably make some threes. They’ll have a game where they make some threes. So there’ll be at least a little drama in this series. But I don’t know the Thunder defense there just is no hole. And I do not know how you like it’s a nightmare series for Ant. It’s it’s going to I mean Julius Randle got hot for a little bit there in the first half. You’re like okay maybe he can carry him. I think if you took away Julius Randle’s uh threes I was looking at it. I think if you took away his uh three-pointers, the rest of the team went 10 for 45. That’s pretty bad. That’s pretty bad. And it’s it’s again, it’s by design. They don’t let you score 20 points in the paint was the lowest amount of points in the paint for the Timberwolves this year. The Timberwolves have to get out in transition. They have to get in the paint. They have to let Ant go downhill. And the Thunder just do not allow that because their defense is so goddamn good. Yeah. There was absolutely no cutting to the basket. So, they didn’t even get the opportunity because the defense was so good, they didn’t even get the opportunity to get a lot of those fouls and the N1’s that that Oklahoma City was getting. There were virtually no fast break points for the Timberwolves tonight either. Uh it was Yeah, it was a dominant performance by the Thunder for sure. And also, yes, Julius Randall great in the first half. I think I think the Wolves are still going to get a couple games out of this because he uh he went down the first half, sprained his ankle again, came back very very tough performance on his part to come back and still like have some of the explosiveness that he normally does. If he gets healthy in the series, I think it’ll be it’ll be competitive. It’s not going to be as lopsided as it was tonight. But as of tonight, the Thunder clearly the better. I mean, we spent we spent several years being like, I wish teams would stop just taking threes and dunking and then the Thunder do it and we’re like, no, not like this. Yeah, like this. I I I mean, I don’t want to overreact to one game, but this was the game that it felt like the Wolves would have had their best leg up because you had the Thunder playing in a game seven two days ago. They came out a little slow. Like the Wolves kind of jumped on him, but that second half it was maybe it was the kisses that SGA got from his kid at halftime. Did you see that? They were They also I think everyone should just uh We’re going to be the first to report it. Breaking news. Is Hank here? Might be. He was in breaking news. Breaking news. Uh SGA. Go ahead, Hank. SGA is cousins with Nquille Alexander Walker. I don’t know if you heard that. I don’t know if you heard that. I don’t know if you heard that. Uh here’s the other thing. PFT. So, they brought that up a million times. It was the Kershaw Stafford thing. I have a I have a take on the uh because I agree with everything you said about SGA and it’s again, it’s just the the extreme foul baiting is just not fun basketball to watch. That’s just what it comes down to and and everyone knows it when they see it and and it goes game to game. It can be one game on, one game off, but when it happens, it sucks. Here’s what also I I was thinking about it because I don’t know if you noticed like it didn’t feel like the Thunder crowd had a lot of juice, but I think they did. I think the ESPN just turns down their mics so much that they do them disservice because you could see moments when it was like popping and you’re like, “Oh, that they are loud. This is a loud crowd.” So, I’m not going to I I think I think OKC was loud. I think the ESPN for some reason they do this with hockey, too, where they turn down the crowd. It’s like I want to hear the crowd. I also uh the the booth the Richard Jefferson Doris Burke that there’s not a lot of aura. I’m sorry. Smashing the button on everything. Yeah, I’m sm But I’m smashing it there. Don’t we like RJ uh I like Doris Burke as a team. It just doesn’t feel big gameish. It just I don’t know. It’s like But let Mike Green just do it himself. It just didn’t feel something was off and it was like all the pieces the crowd being low. SJA foul baiting that booth just didn’t it didn’t feel what I needed to feel for Western Conference Final game one. Yeah. And like I I agree. I’ve watched maybe uh I think I five or six Thunder games in the regular season before the playoffs started and I for some reason I don’t have a problem with SGA when he does this in the regular season. It’s fine. But in the playoffs it’s like come on man. This really pisses me off. It’s James Harden used to do it. I mean, there’s a lot of guys have done this. This is it. And a lot of guys get criticized for it. It it just is what it is. Like, guys have that in their game where they just they go to the hoop and they try to get their they’re initial they’re not trying to score as much as they’re trying to get contact. Yeah. Did you see that ESPN did a horoscope reading of the NBA playoffs? No. This is real deep stuff. Real deep stuff. So, uh they predicted the Pacers and the Thunder based on everybody’s horoscope signs going into this. Oh. Oh, yeah. I so I might have missed that because I want to I want to shout out our guy because so I I’m maybe I’ll give uh the main booth a chance again, but I’m going to recommend it. And this is Yeah, this is partially biased because he is our guy, but uh Leggler and Goldsbury were on ESPN 2. Watch the second half on that. Great watch. Great watch. Check that out. Yeah, I would check that out. You’re right. There were there were several times in the broadcast night where I was just I wanted I wanted to to pretend like this game was closer than it was. And a good announcing booth will do that. They’ll bring some like, you know, they they’ll make it a big moment even when it might not be. This one it felt like it was a Yeah, I was watching the circus. And it’s it’s I mean it happens all the time in in announcing booths. It’s like you can tell when they’re not they don’t have a ton of chemistry, rapport, years of rapport together. the the Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson booth as I know we made fun of it, but like they they genuinely made each other laugh and they genuinely like to be around each other. I feel like this is more they’re just going and punching a clock. So, whatever. I’m maybe they’ll get better. Uh but it was a weird it was a weird clunky game. And then it was also a game where the Thunder, it looked like it was going to be a tight game and then the Thunder were just so much better in the second half than the Timberwolves. And it was it was easy. Like it was just they once they the Thunder have done this I don’t know how many times there’s I think it’s probably half of their playoff games it feels like they’ve been able to empty their bench at the end of the game like in a playoff game and it’s because they’re so good and when they hit that turbo button and their defense feeds into their offense and they get you know multiple stops in a row on the defensive side cuz this game was close and then it just wasn’t. You blinked and it wasn’t. And it was like, “Oh, yep. This game’s over. They’re going to cover and they’re going to win by a lot.” Yeah. I I actually do think that the Wolves are going to win two, maybe three games. I think that that’s possible. I know it doesn’t feel like it after what we just watched tonight, but I mean, crazy [ __ ] happens in the playoffs. So, one game it was dominant. The Thunder defense was really, really good. Like when we watched game one of the Thunder and the Nuggets in the last series, we were like, “Oh [ __ ] the Thunder are in real deep trouble here because they’re not going to be able to do anything on the inside against the things happen over the course of a seven game series.” So, it’ll even out a little bit, I think. Um, but I think if they need to get they need to get Ant healthy. That’s going to be that would be a problem if his uh ankle lingered on for a little bit. Max, what’s the what’s the injury prognosis? I think you probably have the exact same ankle injury that Ann has. Uh, you know, it’s one day, one day of a tough walk and then, you know, you’re fine. You’re fine. Tape it up. They probably got better painkillers than me. He’ll be fine. Yeah. You I mean, you’re fine. Uh, speaking of games that or series that are not going to change, uh, I The Panthers are so good. They’re so good. And we’re going to talk to Biz about uh, all hockey, but they’re so good. And this uh I don’t think because it’s similar like the Panthers go from a game seven, they go from Toronto to Carolina. This is where you can get them. And it wasn’t even it wasn’t a doubt like the what was the final score? I I I turned it off. Uh yeah, it was 5-1 and and the and the or 5-2 and and the goal the first goal that Carolina scored was they kicked he kicked it in. He he did like a back kick. Uh this just reminds me this is remember this is from last year the series uh when their coach said uh after getting swept by the Panthers I believe it was last year right memes I think they swept him last year I’m going to look it up is Hank here I’m looking at a stat that matters here big cat uh if you want to talk about shots on goal if you’re a Carolina Hurricanes fan um the Carolina Hurricanes had 33 shots on goal and the Florida Panthers had 20 shots on goal. So you guys won the shots on goal. Yeah, shots on goal is huge. Massive. Shots on goal is huge. Um here filibuster real quick. Hank, are you here? Yeah, I’ve been here the whole time. What’s up, boys? What did you think about What did you think about the the Thunder game? Uh they took over. They they dominated uh good second half. I was doing a stream for a majority of it, but Mhm. What do you think about SGA? Val beating. Not fun to watch. Mhm. Unethical. Yeah. Where what is this? Where where are you going with this? It was I’m not going anywhere. It was two years ago. You’re going somewhere when the Panthers uh swept the the Hurricanes, remember? And their coach said, uh that’s the import unfortunate part of this. People are going to look back and everyone’s going to say, “You got swept. That’s not what happened. I watched the game. I’m there. I’m cutting the game. We’re in the game. It could have been four games the other way.” They did get swept, but that wasn’t what happened. But it feels like this might be the same thing where you’re going to have to be like, “We I swear we didn’t get swept.” Did you see what happened at the uh I think it was like 10 minutes into the third period where Got to Spear took that shot from like the opposite end of the ice and tried to hit uh Marshon with it. Yeah, cuz he got in a Marawn got in a fight. Uh, they got a little brew. Haha. Yeah, that would At least we’ve got some intrigue now. We got some real bad blood between the teams. Yeah, the Panthers bring the bad blood out of anyone. That’s just what they do. They’re dirty. But but like in the That’s a a compliment when I say it about the Panthers. They’re like they’re a big bunch of [ __ ] That’s how Yeah, that’s how uh that’s how h playoff hockey should be. Absolutely. Um Hank. Yes. So, we’re going to kick it back to ourselves in studio and we’re going to talk uh some Jordon and some uh Bill Bich. Oh, do we want to do predictions for the Knicks Pacers series? Did we already do them? Yeah, we did. We did. I think I just said game seven. I’d like to change my pick though before it starts. I can do that, right? Yeah. I think I said Pacers and seven. I’m going to say Knicks in seven now. Oh, because I just found out that the Pacers are changing their uniforms. They’re getting off the city connects. That was NBA league mandate. Yeah. So, yeah, the NBA said you can’t do that. You have to go to your core colors. So, we’ve been demanding that they get off the City Connect jerseys, but now that they actually did it, I’m like, wait, they they won a lot of playoff games wearing those alternate uniforms. Yeah. But again, I feel like it’s different that the NBA mandated it versus the Pacers doing it in free will. So, they’re going to be upset that they’re not playing in the City Connect, right? There’s nothing they can do. They their hands are tied. the the NBA. Correct move by the NBA to be like, “You have to wear the real jerseys.” Yeah. Um All right. Before we kick it to ourselves, Hank, you uh great stream tonight. Thank you. Uh you’re Why are you nervous? Because you called me and were like, “I have a question.” I was like, “What is it?” You’re like, “I can’t tell you.” Yeah. So, I’ve been thinking about what the question could be for 20 minutes. Okay. But why did I why didn’t I just I could have just asked you on the Well, yeah. No, hand up. I told you. Uh I we signed up to do this stream, which we had to break Scotty Shuffler’s Sunday round. Uh and however many times it took us to do it was how long the stream was going to go. So, I was planning on just being on a stream till 4:00 a.m. So, I I assumed, you know, I was not going to be able to make the the first 10 minutes of the show. We finished early. Everyone was so happy. Like, we’re going to get dinner. I was like, I’m in. I literally until you texted like I we were sitting down for dinner and you’re like sending the draftings out. I was like, oh no, I forgot it’s Tuesday. Oh no. I do part of my take. Well, no, but like you know what I’m saying? Like I like in 90 like we we we were dialed. We had some clutch clutch shots to to beat minus we were minus two or minus one. But I if the stream was still going, I obviously was not going to be on this part of the show. Right. Mhm. If anybody out there is like, “Hank cares more about golf than about the podcast.” I didn’t want to do the [ __ ] You didn’t want to do it. This is crazy. I’m foreshadowing. I think honest. Honest mistake. Honest mistake. But you’re here now, so it doesn’t matter. All’s good. Yeah, I was here the whole time. Yeah, you were here the whole time. Um Hank, here’s my question. And maybe we can put in the video. Do you think we could put this video into the YouTube? Stop. Do you think we put this video in the YouTube? No. So for the listeners, go watch the video. Go watch the YouTube. See what I’m talking about. For the listeners though, this is a question. Hank uh posted a video on Instagram. Let’s talk about like my Let’s talk about my my my history though with Okay. Okay. Let me explain it. Hank has a history. He loves to post whale videos. Love them. Uh it was I think it goes back to a Mount Rushmore. Yeah. Best slow-mo videos in the world. Yeah. So, every time there’s a whale breaching water, Hank is posting it. I look at Hank’s Instagram stories tonight. Uh Hank has posted a video of whales on boats being cleaned by like tractor vacuums. They’re driving the tractor over the back of the whale off the barnacles. It’s a It’s the fakest video I think I’ve ever seen in my entire life. And I really do think Hank posted it thinking it was real. Did you see my next story? Hank, did you post it thinking it was real? Did you see my next story? I didn’t. Did you post it thinking it was real? No. You want me to play I’ll play I’ll play what I posted cuz a lot of people were confused, but I cleared it up. Just finished uh Barcel after dark here. I I just want to address this AI whale. Uh I love whale videos and this one came across my timeline. I thought it was cool. It’s It is AI obviously. Obviously AI. I just thought it was a cool video. Uh but but very obviously AI. I mean, I never had a doubt in my mind. But if you like cool whale videos, you know, AI or real, that’s that’s why you follow me on Instagram stories. So again, sorry for anyone confused. I knew it was AI the whole time, but if you didn’t, now you do. Okay. So, can can you being honest though? Be honest with the listeners. That that that was it. That was enough. If the video’s posted like it’s like a beautiful like thinking about whales that have barnacles stuck on their backs and they’re just floating through the ocean stuck with these barnacles and then there’s this group of people who get the whales onto a boat somehow. Mhm. And then powerwash them to clear the barnacles off and basically free them. I actually was going to send it to you. That’s what I thought at first. But it’s a it it was I felt so good, happy for the whales. Yeah. Yes. At first glance, I’m not joking. Uh cuz we were doing the stream, I opened my phone and like I got scared because I had like 10 DMs from people like people I know like you know when you see that number like when you see it’s usually like one or two or whatever. It was like 11 new messages from people being like you [ __ ] idiot. This is AI. Like, oh my god. I mean, they were tractors. I’m They were fullon tractors on top of whales powerwashing them. They were driving. There was a guy like sitting in a driver’s seat driving the tractor up and down the back the spine of the whale as the whale’s just sitting there not moving like, “Thank you.” Like the whale knows that he’s getting power washed. They were making noises. They made noises like they were like, “Thank you.” Yeah. Um I agree with Hank though. If Can you imagine how cool that video would have been if it was real? Oh, very cool. But I just This is Everyone’s talking about AI this, AI that. New new evolution in AI. It’s going to be a problem. It’s going to be a problem for the Hanks of the world. He’s the one who’s who’s going to be spreading this. And we we like But like, who’s this? I didn’t say it was an AI. I didn’t say anything. No, but you shared a cool video to my followers. You said it. You just you just said right now that you thought it was real. Again, this is like trustree. I posted on my story. I was like just for the followup like obviously it was AI but like I just I share cool whale videos and this this fell into that category. Mhm. And like maybe it’s not real now. Here we go. But like maybe it it helps start like the I just feel bad for the whales with barnacles like stuck on like you’re just ahead of your time. Yeah. Maybe your post is going to give somebody a great idea for an invention and they can actually do this for real to the whales. Yeah. Think about what Hank Hank is spreading the message that hey guys uh we have the technology now. Let’s start cleaning whales with tractors. I love it. I love it. I like it’s it’s good AI, man. It’s not that good. It’s not good at all. But I also didn’t hear the whales saying thank you. I didn’t hear how accurate the whale sounds were. The whales Yeah. power washing cleaning. Have you guys seen Have you The other one that almost got me that I had to literally do research on was the uh These guys are sliding on the back of the whale with a freaking with a Zamboni. He’s doing like Tokyo drift on the back of the whale. This guy’s driving a full-on John Deere. Also, the barnacles wouldn’t spring. Uh, depends on the power washer. Oh my god. All right, that was all I had. Hey, I’m gonna I’ll post it tomorrow just just for, you know. Can we put it in the Are we allowed to put it in the YouTube? I don’t know. It’s a It’s toss up. Pug. Pug. President Pug. Probably fine. AI. Yeah. I will post on my story tomorrow. I won’t I won’t give any any update just so people listening, they know. But there was an Anaconda video. Uh, yes. Max knows what I’m talking about. It almost got me, too. It’s like It was like a 70 put like a It was like the biggest anacon of all time and I was like, “If that’s real, we’re fucked.” I believe all of them. I I There’s not a video that I’ve ever watched that I’ve thought was Did you guys see the one that Stephen Shay posted a few month like maybe a month ago? It was a polar bear with what looked like um a leech on its back and it was like it was like it was the the leech was bigger than the polar bear and it was people going and scraping the leech off the polar bear. The polar bear was probably really appreciative. They thought that was very clear. We got to be better. PSA we got to be better. Listen, I get tricked all the time. Our boss got sent today. Uh, so it happens. But the AI thing scares me because we can’t let AI take us over. I know. We’re smarter than AI. We are. Although, if AI does take over, just shout out AI. I actually seriously love you. That was just a joke earlier. Yeah, that’s true. Yeah, we got to tip our cap. Like, please give us a job. Please give us a job to make like uh different faces into a camera and pay us $2 an hour. Well, the great thing is I I don’t think that they make AI that’s dumb enough that could ever do part of my take. Like AI would never be dumb enough to fall. Don’t tempt them. AI would never be dumb enough to fall for an AI video of a whale. That’s true. That’s true. The computer would figure it out. Program that. No, you can’t replicate these moments. No. Uh, okay. All right. Well, let’s uh kick it to ourselves back in studio. Then we got Biz and Chris Berman. Okay. Before we get to the rest of the show, game time. Football is back. The 2025 NFL schedule is out. The only place you should be getting tickets is Game Time, the official ticketing partner, Bar Stool Sports. We’re planning our fall schedule. Game time is the perfect place to do it. I know the Bears go and play in Las Vegas. I think it’s week three. You can go to Game Time right now with killer last minute deals all in prices, views from your seat, and their lowest price guarantee. 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Congratulations are in order. Are they? I think we’re going to have a baby. who Jordan and Bill Bellichic. They are engaged to be married. Well, at least Jordan is saying that uh they are engaged to be married. I don’t know if Bill knows yet. I don’t think that Jordan would make this up, but apparently she’s told at least one friend who then talked to the New York Times. This all seems maybe or maybe without Jordan’s direction to talk to the New York Times uh to to let the world know. Happy news. Save the date. Save the date. We’re getting married. Little May December relationship. I could I I also uh imagine this going as like Jordon just takes Bill Bichc being like, “Hey, we got to do some shopping real quick. Let’s go to We’re going to stop at Whole Foods. I got to go to Lululemon and then also we’re just going to go pick out a diamond real quick.” Yeah, it’s just a ring. Just a diamond ring. You’ve got You’ve got several of them. Yeah. Can I get one? Yeah. So, Hank, I will wait until uh you know, Miss Hudson and and Mr. Belich report this themselves. I do not believe, you know, the New York Times, fake news media. This is just a report as far as I’m concerned. It sounds like you It sounds like you don’t want to believe it because you don’t want it to be true. Right. It sounds like Are you rooting against Bill’s happiness? No, I think everyone everyone should be deserved uh, you know, in life, personal things, like everyone’s deserved the right to, you know, tell the world themselves. Everyone has deserved Everyone is deserved in life. PFD, I think it’s bigger than that. I think Hank’s rooting against love as in general. I love No, you don’t. I do cuz when I I don’t know about you, I love the fake news, but when you when you hear about an engagement of a young vivacious couple that is going to plan the rest of their life together, my initial reaction is always congratulations. No, but you guys have a lot of friends, you know, that have gotten married, maybe are possibly talking about getting engaged, things of that nature. Do you want to hear it from them? You don’t want to hear it from, you know, a source of a source being like, “Oh, did you hear they’re going to get married?” I know what’s going on, big cat. Yeah, Hank is just upset because he thinks that that they’re engaged and he didn’t find out from Bill. Oh, he was expecting. He’s like, I I would have thought that I would have been on that text. Yeah. I listen, I want to make it a personal I don’t think Bill knows. I Well, he’s going to be so excited when he finds out. Imagine that. Imagine you find out through the New York Times that you’re engaged to be married. That’s so cool. That’s romantic as [ __ ] I mean, this is like the the uh the elite class of this country always does their uh wedding announcements via the New York Times. If Bill Bich had to find out a way that he was engaged, he would have liked to see it in the press first. Yeah. He has always been his friend. It’s your favorite thing, journalism and love. So, Hank, I I want to make it a a pledge. I don’t know how we’re going to do it. Uh I don’t really have any connections. Uh, but I will not rest until we get Henry Lockwood an invite to the Jordan Bill Bich wedding. What’s the hashtag going to be? I think at the very least Hank should be invited to the bachelor party. Yeah, that would be fun. That would be a great time. What do you think it’s going to be? What how many rings he had? He has eight. So, not something with nine. I think it’s probably going to be just love story Bill’s version. Oh, I like that. That’s a great hashtag. Mhm. I you might be able to go to the the Oh, dude, think about this. Bill Bich, we all know, listens to the show religiously. What if he’s the AWL uh who we pick for his bachelor party next year? That would be sick. I’d like to preemptively say that that’s the guy. That would be sick. We Bill, if you We know you’re listening. Uh we will send Max to your bachelor party and and when he has a sprained ankle, you can look at it and be like, “You [ __ ] pussy.” I think Bill just Bill just wouldn’t tell the media about the nature of the injury. Yeah, but we’ll see how he does. He’s got a lower body. We’ll see it. Uh I’m excited for you, Hank. Why aren’t you excited? I just don’t I think a baby’s on like the way I don’t like this reporting. I mean, the hashtag’s definitely going to be Chapel Bill, right? Yeah. Uh although she might have that. She might have to sue herself cuz I’m pretty sure she she trademarked that already. She would love that. There also was a report that the uh denigration of Hard Knocks and Carolina, their their relationship uh might have been because Ms. Hudson, soon to be Mrs. Bellich. Jordan Bellich. Jordan Bichc. Got a great ring to it. I wouldn’t be shocked if they do hyphenated names. Bill Hudson Bellich. Yeah. Bill takes it. Yeah. Yeah. Bill Hudson Bellich. I mean, you got to think about the kids. You want the kids to also be Hudson’s when they when they consummate the marriage. If he’s able to get up, this could be the miracle on the Hudson. Mhm. Uh there was a report in this same article that uh Ms. Hudson demanded she be granted content approval and partial ownership of the show. She said this to NFL Films allegedly. Allegedly. I believe I don’t believe that part. I believe the engagement. We’re choosing one thing to believe from this article. It’s that they’re engaged. I think that HBO just heard that everyone was going to call it [ __ ] Knox and then they backed out. I don’t think this has anything to do with with Miss Bichc Hudson. This these might they might be the new Kardashians. They’re doing a reality show, their marriage, their wedding. Honestly, it’s everything. It is. It’s squad goals. Me and Bill. I don’t like your attitude. It’s the ultimate zag for Bill Belch. I’ll say that much. The ultimate zag. Like you think Bill’s going to go one way the way he’s won his whole life, which is straight and narrow. Stay away from the media. Stay away from the drama. Focus on the team. Sometimes sometimes opposites attract. I I do think that and this is all opposite. There’s a there are a lot of very rich, powerful people that get attracted to women that just completely dominate them. Mhm. Maybe I’m just basing that on the show Billions with Paul Gotti, but Bill is a control freak and he finally met somebody that can control him and now he’s like just going hog wild. He loves it. Yeah, he loves being in the passenger seat for a change. Yeah, I’m happy for that. He’s riding shotgun on the Jordan Hudson show. There was also a report that she was attending Patriots practices in training camp and that she would wear bright red sweatpants so that Bill could see her from the sidelines. I love that. That’s love. And that’s that’s the year that um well, we don’t have to talk about that year. What happened? That’s inconsequential to the story, which is about true love. I don’t think that has anything to do with football. But apparently, she was Yeah, she was like staying in the team hotel with him. That’s normal. That’s very normal for a couple that’s engaged. Yeah. For a coach’s girlfriend, I think. No, let’s stop with the girlfriend talk. It’s fiance. It’s a fiance now, though. But it’s a fiance. Let’s respect it. She’s also meeting with senators, according to this article. What’s wrong with that? I don’t like Yeah. No, we don’t. Why do you think I something wrong with that? I I was very clear. I think it’s it’s wonderful. I think we need more women speaking truth to power. I want you to say fiance. I can say the word. I want you to say it when it comes to Jordon and Bill Bichian. When they do a collab Instagram post, then I will believe it. Okay. Okay. Um there was also another part in the story. I didn’t realize this, but when he was watching the Miss Maine pageant when he was uh which again very supportive fiance move to do. I like that. Him sitting front and center rooting for her. That’s fiance goals. It is. It really is. And he was sitting next to her dad. I didn’t realize this part, but her dad is 49 years old. Oh. So, Bill is old enough to be her dad’s dad. Yeah. What? That makes sense. That does make sense. I mean, he he was It’s a little weirder that he’s only 49, but he always was old enough to be her grandfather. Is Bill like when they get married, and it’s going to be a lovely wedding. I hope that you’re in attendance, Hank. Is her dad going to take walk her down the aisle and give her away to Bill Bich? No, I I think he’ll be he’s still young enough to be the ring bearer. He probably could. Yeah. Yeah. He’ll come down and he’ll be like he he and his you know Jordan J Jordan’s mom will come down with the fl She’ll be the flower girl. He’ll be the ring bearer. It’ll be so cute. I think it’s lovely. It is. It’s beautiful. What? Max. Beautiful. Yeah. No, I do. You think he asked for permission? Oh, from the Bichc had to ask. Oh, I think the dad might asked permission from Bill Bich. Will you please marry my daughter? Yeah. Will you are you okay with my daughter telling everyone we’re enga you’re engaged? This is Romeo and Juliet all over again. It’s [ __ ] Except for the ending. The ending is going to be great in this one. It’s [ __ ] beautiful. It really is. Two star cross lovers. I love love. Has Belichc ever done like a big documentary about his life? I don’t I I know he’s done NFL film stuff. No. So, she’ll be in that. Oh, I think it’s going to be a documentary about her life featuring Bill Bich through the Yeah, Bill Bich through the eyes of Jordon Hudson. Who’s more famous, Bill Bich or Jordan? I think it’s pretty neck andneck right now. Bill’s marrying up, right? And like non- football fans probably don’t know who Bill Bich is. Anyone, any pop culture fan knows who Jordana is. She’s she’s the hottest thing going right now. She’s the it girl. Uh, all right. Other thing we had to talk about, we have the world’s worst Twitter fight because uh both both guys can be a lot on Twitter. Ryan Clark versus RG3, all based on a foul in the WNBA. Uh so quick summation, RG3 did a uh podcast, which I didn’t realize he does his podcast with with his lovely wife, Greta. Yeah, Greta. Yeah. RG sitting in the background. Yeah. Is that RG3 in the ones? Yeah, that’s uh so she sits in the background. Um she’s like uh Glenn Glenn uh Humpernick. Oh, from the Tom Green Show. One of the most insane podcast aesthetics I’ve ever seen. She’s a little more active than Glenn. Yeah. But she’s sitting there and then RG3 did an entire podcast uh basically saying that Angel Reese hates Caitlyn Clark, which why is that wrong? I don’t understand why anyone would be upset about that portion. And I understand there’s there’s racial again this story Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese just becomes a race war instantly. But I believe that Caitlyn Clark does dislike a or sorry Angel Reese does dislike Caitlyn Clark very much. I I kind of think that by now it goes both ways where where Caitlyn got she was very upset. I think rightfully so last year when she got that hard foul and Angel Reese was the first one off the bench clapping and then Angel hit her in the head. I think that there’s like there’s definitely some animosity between them. But I think that obviously it’s clear that Angel Ree hates Caitlyn Clark or at the very least hates what she perceives to be Caitlyn Clark’s audience and what they stand for. I’m just going to go out right and say it. She hates Caitlyn Clark. I think she does and that’s fine cuz rivalries are good. I’m saying you gave them both true serum. They both hate each other. Yeah, they like it. That’s that’s the fun part about I think Angel Reese hates Kayla Clark more though. Yeah, probably. And Angel Reese cuz again it goes back to what I said on Monday. the the the issue with this uh rivalry is Caitlyn Clark is just a lot better and more entertaining of a basketball player. If Angel Reese is a power forward, it’s not going to be the same as a as like the Steph Curry of women’s basketball. And Caitlyn Clark, she is fun to watch hitting deep threes and everything. Getting rebounds is not as as fun or appealing to to the viewers. Not saying Angel Reese isn’t a good basketball player, but Caitlyn Clark is a transcendent basketball player. I’m lightweight upset that we’re taping part of my take right now because this is time that I could be using to scroll X the everything app to read more takes about Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark and what it means about our society and all the think pieces about the WNBA. Can we just take some time to appreciate the fact that we’re at a point where people are now engagement farming off of the WNBA which should be that should be a massive win for the WNBA, right? Big time. like they’re they’re now to a point where content about the WNBA is leading the news cycle, but it does get it gets absolutely exhausting reading all these takes. Like I am I’m worn out from reading these takes. It it’s exhausting, but it’s also so entertaining because I’m I I don’t really have a dog in this fight in that I’m just watching from the sidelines being like, “Yeah, yeah, that is ra Oh, no, that is Oh, no, no, no, that is racist.” Just back and forth. I I made a list I made a list uh yesterday of the best takes or the strongest most wild takes I’ve seen about this because people are on their [ __ ] right now. They see this and they’re like I got to come up with a threat. I’m going to I’m going to compare uh the situation to Israel Palestine. That’s next. Very important thread. U but the best takes that I’ve seen uh one Caitlyn should be arrested for getting a triple double. Okay. Yeah, I saw that because she asked her coach to put her back in the game so she could get another rebound and that is literally illegal. That person is going to I hope that person is sitting down when we show them a tape of Ricky Davis. That would that would shock them. Ricky Davis famously throwing the ball off the opposition’s hoop uh to try to get the 10th rebound for a triple double. Yep. Number two, what if Angel Reese had gotten killed on that foul? What if she got seriously injured or worse? Now, I’m going to be honest with you, PFT. I didn’t think about that. And now that I’m thinking about that, it’s problematic. I love that take. It’s problematic. I love that take. What if anyone died? Yeah. I mean, listen, when you have hard foul, it’s a hardwood court. She could have hit her head on it. That’s true. Uh, number three, Caitlyn Clark is a racist. Yep. And then number four, Caitlyn Clark is not racist enough. So, everyone’s angry at everybody. And, uh, it is it’s something to see on I I personally think that this is a big sigh up to distract you from the fact that the Boston Celtics, they blew a 0 to2 lead against the New York Knicks in the playoffs. The uh the the other one that I have I I I enjoy very much is uh people basically saying Caitlyn Clark has to speak for all of her fans. Yeah. And uh say something about them. You know, you you can’t you can’t hate Angel Reese. She needs to stand up and and and do her responsibility and say, “Hey fans, stop it.” Which she has done in the past. She and she she literally did that. I think it was after the NCAA National Championship. She was like, “Don’t treat her badly.” And and Angel Reese has also done the she did a speech, I think, last year where she was essentially like, I I’m the villain here, and I like it. Like, I’m going to help help grow the game for being a villain. And then they asked her about that this year, and she said, “No comment.” But uh so so back to RG3 verse Ryan Clark. Ryan Clark then did a show, this is all very stupid, but also very funny. Ryan Clark did a show uh his podcast where he basically uh said that RG3 can’t talk about this because he has a white wife. He has his ex-wife was white as well. Uh is obsessed with making milk jokes. And then RG3 came over the top and said, “Hey, dude, don’t bring my family into this.” Uh that’s fair. Everyone knows in mafia and podcast wars, the family stays out of it. But if the wife if the wife is literally the podcast true, good point. She is in the She’s in the show. Uh, and then That’s a very good point, Hank. And then Ryan Clark I feel like Ryan Clark does this like maybe four or five times a year where he gets in a a fight and then he does the like, “Well, yeah, I hope your I hope your I hope your dad dies.” And then walks away. He He basically was like, “Yeah, hey RG3, you were the worst teammate I ever had, both on the field and at ESPN. Everyone hates you and you suck at your job.” Mhm. Why did he just went all the way? It is funny how the podcast scene turns even like the the hardest professional athletes into just middle school girls. Yeah. Just little [ __ ] Just like, dude, you’re fight you’re fighting over a foul in the WNBA. Hey, Robert, guess what? You’re not invited to my birthday anymore. So, suck on that. Hey, Robert. I heard I heard in uh in fifth grade you pissed your pants during lunch and and people called you pee pants. So, man, it is kind of exhausting to keep up with all this. And uh I I just know that I’m I’m the big winner in this situation. I just get to sit back and scroll, baby. Yeah. Just refreshing the timeline. It is. They should just play They should play one NB WNBA game a week so that we can have the other six days to just think about what that game meant. Yes. And discuss it. Things. So this is what Ryan Clark said. This was the final uh for now. Uh and again, he just goes he just goes right to the like lowest point being like, “Hey, every every you don’t realize everyone hates you.” Yeah. which is such a shitty thing to do. But he said, “Bro, you know what it is with me and you. I saved you the entire season of Men Football. I urged people to let you be you. No matter how corny, how bad a teammate you were, I had your back. This is really, this is like, hey, I don’t care what everyone says about you. I think you’re an okay guy.” What did you do? Invite someone on your show you know I don’t fool with to ask questions about me and then hit me weeks later to tell me you’re going to challenge one of my takes. You’re a phony bro. one of the worst teammates I ever had, both on the field and in TV. You got to do what you got to do. I didn’t attack your wife. I spoke on what you do on social media and TV. Like I said, I met your wife and she seemed like a lovely lady that was worth more than the color of her skin. You be good, bro. It was a foul. It was a pretty common foul. And that’s that’s that’s what RG3 should come back with. You’d be like, “Hey, dude. Uh, are we still talking about a foul?” This is like heroin to me. Yeah. It’s it’s quite something. It’s so good. And and by the way, the one thing that uh Ryan Clark is correct on is RG3 is corny. He is, but he’ll be the first to say that he makes and listen, I I am compromised when it comes to the RG3 situation because I have no choice but to support his wife. Yeah, I think his wife is a strong powerful woman with a great voice and uh I will not ever say anything bad about her. I I am not compromised and I would say my ruling is RG3. Yes, he is corny. Yes, it is kind of uncomfortable when he’s like makes a joke about like his wife’s milk. That does kind of creep me out a little bit. But other than that, Ryan Clark is kind of a psycho and just went like nuclear on a take about a foul in the WNBA. I think Ryan Clark gets very very emotional. That’s kind of the thing with his podcast is the the times where I see him go mega viral, it’ll be like that soft somber music and he’ll just be like almost crying into the camera talking about something, getting worked up. He’s uh it stay in touch with his feelings. It basically comes down to RG3 had a misdemeanor of being corny online and and Ryan Clark put him in front of a firing squad. Yeah. The the the punishment does not m meet the crime here. What do you say, Hank? I just more I I’ve been thinking, you know, my biggest takeaway is just thinking about the conversation between RG3 and and Greta about setting up the podcast. Yeah. Like you guys are podcasting trailblazers. Did you ever think like sit someone let’s just have someone sit without a mic 10t behind us? Uh yeah. Was that is that a joke about yourself? You have you actually have but behind my whole goal for but behind you’re right behind. Yeah, actually that’s the crime. If RG3 really wanted to do a podcast, he’d put the person scrolling their phone on a couch next to him. Well, you guys obviously have not watched RG3’s podcast. This was a clip that RG3 did in the podcast. Greta is a very important part and she does have a microphone and she’s allowed to she’s allowed to voice her opinion. Hank, that’s good. That’s good. Yeah. Now, if you had asked me when we started part of my take, what’s the reason you’re starting this podcast, I would have told you. So that one day RG3 and his wife can also do a podcast together. And also one day we can uh do 20 minutes on Jordan Hudson marrying Bill Bich and RG3 and Ryan Clark having a fight that literally does not mean anything to anyone except it’s very great entertainment. What I love about this entire situation, going back to the Angel Reese, Caitlyn Clark dynamic, is that this is just but a small taste of how toxic sports fans can be online. And the WNBA is just sports fans are mean and ugly. They’re they’re just getting a a tiny nibble of the of what really goes on. Like the WNBA, if you are if you compare that to NBA Twitter or what’s what happens on NBA social media, it’s way way worse in the NBA. Now it’s like a new group, a new fan base being exposed to how crazy sports fans get online. And yeah, that’s kind of that’s kind of the world that we live in. I think though the only difference is like NBA Twitter is fun for the most part. People are trying to have fun, get jokes off, not for not for Hank. Well, Hank is specifically talking about the other night. Uh WNBA Twitter just takes itself way too seriously. It just can’t it can’t every every foul can’t be can’t be the most uh egregious thing that that’s happened in race relations in the world. Where I get lost is kind of like the white boy Rick like when like NBA Twitter is absolutely ruthless to every single player making fun of them. Like every single night’s a meme. It doesn’t matter how good they are. Jokes are made at their expense. So like the angel people getting mad about a clip where Angel Reese is dribbling the ball at her face. Yeah. And kind of like poking fun at her. That’s That’s what sports Twitter is. That’s where NBA Twitter Yeah. Like they they have a a a a quiet agreement that you can just be mean to everyone and no one’s going to really take it too personal. I saw I saw Jaylen Brown’s face as Osama bin Laden the other day. Yeah. Now, if I’m Angel Reese, some advice for both Angel and Caitlyn, just don’t be on social media because I I would imagine that most of the really really bad [ __ ] that you deal with is from people that are DMing you from anonymous accounts, probably saying some really really bad stuff and then you take reading all that into the real world and then you just assume the worst about your opponent’s fans and all this [ __ ] I would just log off. have somebody else run your social media, do your ad deals, do all that [ __ ] for you, but don’t I I would stay off. I’d imagine they are. That’s also where I lose the angel argument a little bit too because I do think which is rightfully so and and not a bad thing at all. Like it’s good if she kind of flip-flops between like I’m a villain. I have a podcast. I do all these magazine shoots. Like I’m I’m putting myself out there, but then she kind of takes the other side of like whoa whoa whoa. I’m just a basketball player trying to do my job. She doesn’t fully want to get embraced like the Bill Lambir role. Yeah. I think you have to be that has to be in you to begin with. You can’t like LeBron said. I don’t think so. Cuz like remember when LeBron went even like the ring like that was funny the original. That was good though. Like she’s a good heel and she knows that and she says that sometimes but then will also play victim. See. Yeah. You can’t you can’t need you can’t hate to be hated and love to be loved at the same time. But that’s also the problem with the this entire rivalry again is that I think that I think she likes to be the villain in it until they play and it’s like, “Oh [ __ ] Caitlyn Clark’s really good. This kind of sucks.” I think she likes to say, “I’ll be the villain because it makes her feel good in the moment.” But she really does not want to be the villain. I also think that if the sky beat the fever in a playoff series, she would be the villain. Yeah. She would go back to being the villain. Like you can’t see I I agree with Hank that like you can’t pick and choose when you’re on top. You can’t be the villain. And then when you’re on when you’re losing, be like, “Oh, no. I don’t want this.” Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Like, you can’t have both. You can’t you can’t I mean, honestly, Draymond, it’s kind of like Draymond Draymond does something similar. Yeah. All I know is that uh they should just play these these games every single week. There should be a Sky Fever game every Saturday. And they’re playing in in Chicago next. Love it. We should go. I feel like we should go to that one. We should go. Just supporting both sides. What is the date? I forget. It’s on a Saturday, though. All right. I’m out. But I’ll watch the highlights on Twitter when people have Yeah, I don’t think I was ever in. I think I’m going to go just Yeah, Hank was not in. Just as a peacemaker. June 7th. Is that a Is that a Saturday 7:00 p.m.? Yeah. Nope. Definitely. Okay. You know those You know, I’m going to take a rain check. You know the Wait, what? What is it in Rosemont? No, it’s at United Center. No, it’s No, they play that game at the United Center. Oh, they moved that game to the United Center. Yeah, the Sky Fever. You better believe it. Oh, that’s awesome. I thought they played their games. Kaylin Clark effect and Angel Reese effect. I might go to the game. You know the guys that wear the orange around Chicago and they try to neutralize situations? Yeah. You know them? Yeah. I think I might do that at this game just to try to calm everybody down. I forgot they were moving a lot of these Caitlin Clark games to bigger places. What were you going to say, Hank? I’m still out, but United Center makes it a little more appealing. Well, Win Trust is downtown, too. They play at uh Oh, yeah. They they played the they they played their games at Winrust because of Caitlin Clark. They’re playing it at United Center. Nice. Uh I think they did the same thing for some other games. Uh I can’t remember where. I think maybe San is San Antonio have a team. I don’t think so. Sparks. No. No. Dallas Wings. You know what? We’re just sky fever guys. Yeah. Just let me know when this game is happening. We’re sky fever. Yeah. The Stars. The No, that’s the Oh, the Stars. the San Antonio Stars. Yeah, I’m pretty sure they moved that one to the Alamo Dome. Oh, they do have a team. Yeah. Yeah, we knew. We know we’re a WNBA. Come on, guys. All I know is that National Sports Podcast for a reason. It’s this is all a big distraction and the Mystics are 2 and 0 and nobody’s talking about that. They’re only talking about these these other teams. Uh, all right. Let’s do hot seat cool throw and then we’ll get to our interviews. We got Oh, wait. No, no. The San Antonio Stars were a professional basketball. Okay, so we listen. Hand up. We We’re fans. We have a nostalgia brain with the WNBA. Bring back the Stars. We were bigger fans 10 years ago if we’re going to be honest. That’s all I’m saying is bring the Stars back. So, they didn’t move the game to the Alamoto. They moved one of the games. I don’t know where. One of the games. So, find the game they moved so I could so I can take a half a point. One of the games they moved to a bigger arena. That’s similar to the Win Trust to United Center. What are you talking about? They moved at some point in WNBA history, they moved a game in San Antonio from No, no, no, no. I’m saying they move they’ve been moving games for Caitlyn Clark to bigger arenas. So that’s why the Oh, okay. So Dallas. So I was right. Texas. Yeah, they moved it from they they moved it to a bigger arena. That’s the Caitlyn Clark effect is that like when they go to these cities, they’ve been moving the venue similar Win Trust United Center to a bigger venue because the tickets are so crazy. Uh, all right. Let’s do Hotse Cool Throne. 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Yeah. are the ones, you know, pushing this story forward. Michael K said people in the no say Juan Soda wanted to be a Yankee. He chose the Yankees, but his family wanted him to be a Mets, so he chose the Mets. This feels like cope from the Yankees. And but the private jet one, they’re What was that? He’s taking private jets instead of traveling with the team. Good for him. How How common is that? Can’t be common. Jeff Passen uh denounced this. Oh, so that was from John Boy, that one. Okay. So, that that All right. I’m thinking he might have taken a private jet at some point for some specific reason. Like there could Yeah, there could be a a a series in the middle of the summer where he’s bringing his family. Yeah. He’s like, “Oh, yeah. I’ll just hop on with them.” But there’s no way he’s taking a private jet for every That’s just a waste of money. Or he’s got like a family event that he’s he has to make it back for. So, he takes a slightly earlier flight. I This is big time cope by Yankees fans. And I get it. You’re not used to losing out on the big fish and especially not losing out on a big fish that goes just right across town. So listen, you gota you got to get through it somehow. So if you just want to tell yourself stories that that’s fine. Yeah. Deal with it. But Mets fans, I mean memes, you you you tell us. Mets fans aren’t happy with them either. Oh, why is he hitting 150? Frank Oh, he doesn’t look happy he didn’t run first base against the Yankees. That’s the thing. It’s like there’s one play where he didn’t run as hard as he possibly could to first base and now they’re I personally don’t give a [ __ ] He’s on the team for however many years. So, it doesn’t matter. You guess what memes? He’s awesome at baseball. I got a bad take that I’m going to say out loud. Uh if someone paid me $700 million to play baseball, I would sometimes not run to first base cuz I would probably just be distracted and be like, “Shit, why am I running to first base? I have $700 million. That was an out.” That’s the thing is like if you reach that point where you get that massive contract, you won. Yeah. Right. You won. be hard to get motivated. I’ll just be totally honest. It’s human nature. You’re one and0 lifetime and you’re going to retire with that record. Like imagine striking out with a $700 million contract. Can you be that bummed? No, I don’t think. But have you seen his projected numbers for his 15 years? Tell me about the projected numbers. 0.050 average. This is in the whole 15 years. 34 home runs, 120 RBI’s, and 287 double plays. Wow. 2000. Would that be a record? Was this baseball reference that came up with this? This was Frank the Tank Fleming. Oh, okay. That’s crazy. Two thou over almost 3,000 double plays. Wow. And only 34 home runs. Two home runs a year for Yeah. Oh, man. That probably means that where’s he hitting in the order? Fourth probably. Yeah. That means that whoever’s hitting ahead of him is going to be basically like the hit king. He’ll get 370k per induced double play. M by the way uh speaking of home runs, Kyle Schwarber hit his 16th. He’s one back from show. He should maybe be MVP. Cubs are good, right? Kyle Schwber’s not on the I mean Holy [ __ ] with the San Antonio Star on the Cubs. I’m an idiot. That was a bad moment. No, our guy Kyle Sters who if you didn’t listen to this show on Monday, uh Kyle Sters and Tyler Phillips were awesome on the show. I It’s a little different. We obviously don’t have a ton of baseball guests, but they were just cool dudes. He had a uh a big hit and beat the Cubs on Monday night. That sucked. Kyle Tucker maybe not running out to get a a final out. Maybe not running as hard as he can, but he actually doesn’t have an excuse because he hasn’t gotten the $500 million contract. Yeah, he’s got no quit. He can’t might have could have gotten it. I It became one of my favorite things uh that we do as sports fans, especially online. I don’t know if you could pull up the the uh Kyle Tucker. He He might have been able to get to it. He’s not the fastest guy, but uh he there were two outs and there was a ball hit to him and it went past him and uh then the the Marlins ended up winning in extra innings or sorry in in uh they walked it off and just having a bunch of people being like I would have caught that. Mhm. Like me, I run a lot harder and I [ __ ] get that ball. I do love that discourse though about Juan Sodto like I wish that he would have run harder to first base on this. Therefore, he’s not worth the money that we paid him on this one hit. Ideally, yeah, you’d like your players But yeah, to your point, Big Cat, if you won the lottery, would you would you still take the trash out every single day? I’ll tell you what, if I won the lottery, I would podcast and then like if you guys brought up a story I hadn’t seen, I’d just be like, I don’t care. Yeah, that would be me not running to first base. I just refresh my bank account like AB in a team meeting. Yeah. Like, what are you saying, Hank? Oh, I’m sorry. I’m looking at all the zeros. Uh you Max is just in a torture chamber trying to finding like baseball highlights are so hard. Well, if they’re not if they’re not home Yeah. Xy everything app doesn’t exactly have the best search bar anymore. Um so it is what it is. Uh all right, Hank, what’s your cool throne? Cool throne is the All-American Rejects. Oh yeah, I saw this. This is very cool. They’re doing a uh a backyard tour. Oh, that’s awesome. Across the Midwest. Yeah, they’re just showing up in people’s backyards. I think they’re playing They have like a signup sheet that you can book them for a backyard party. They were in Chicago. Yeah, they had these the other night, right? Yeah. Yeah. That’s awesome. Like they just were at a house party, which is one of the coolest things. This is something if I were a very famous musician, I would do all the time. Like remember when we were in uh Atlanta for the Super Bowl and went to the North Side Tavern? Great [ __ ] bar. Shout out North Side Tavern. Everyone was like, “Oh, you should have been here last night.” At two in the morning, Dave Gro came up and played for like an hour. Yeah, I would do that, too. That’s so cool. It’s like the uh I would get dressed up though as an old guy like Uncle Drew. Yeah. I would just be like, “Can you believe this old man got up there and then sang a song and sounded exactly like Good Charlotte.” And they take the mask off. It’s me, Bingjy. Yeah, Juul did that. I remember that video. She dressed she like put on prosthetics and did a karaoke night and was like, “Holy [ __ ] this woman’s incredible.” This is very cool. I like the All-American Rejects. Good for them. Yeah, very cool. Cool throw. Okay, PFT. Uh, my hot seat is the tush push again. So, they’ve uh they’ve officially put this rule out there. They’re going to be voting on it this week about whether or not the tush push should be banned. And it’s all the reporting on it makes it seem like it has a possibility of getting banned. Now, breaking news. Breaking news. Sorry. Breaking news is huge. Breaking news. Glassbanger is out of jail. Okay. Okay. Glass banger is out of jail. talk to Biz, but that’s pretty big. Oh, you you were holding the cow back in case it was Jordon. That’s that’s illegal. You have to do breaking news. Well, I didn’t know if you It could have been satirical. Yeah, he’s uh he’s out of jail. He spread the word uh LFG Stars bang. He’s uh tweeted. So, so um how did that come across your timeline? Uh Liam Bluntman sent it to me. Oh, sick. Yeah, he he he just said out of jail. Okay. Well, that’s Yeah, that’s that’s going to affect how I bet on that series for sure. Absolutely. Uh, okay. Sorry. Uh, tushbush. So, the Packers proposed the rule change. We know that. That way there’s no owner that everybody can get mad at. You just get mad at the entire city of Green Bay and Matt Laflur has to go on podcast and take the bullets when it’s not him that’s proposing the rule change. But and be called a [ __ ] Yeah, it does sound like it it does sound like it might get banned this year. And again, I’m opposed to banning the tush push. Just figure out a way to stop it. But also, if they do ban it, I’ll be pumped because I was on the side saying, “Don’t ban it, but now I don’t have to deal with it anymore.” Correct. So, I’m playing both sides. As a podcast, we do not want the tushwish banned. It’s very unfair. But if it got banned, I will not get in front of it. It’s very unfair to to ban it. You can’t ban a play because one team is way better at it than every other team. But if it does get banned, that’s awesome. Congrats, by the way, on Nick Serriani’s new contract, Max. You wanted him fired how many times in his tenure at the with the Philadelphia Eagles? Zero times. I don’t know what you’re talking about. I never said that. I think I I think the real issue that they should deal with with the tush push, don’t ban it. Just let the defense do the exact same thing where you can throw guys at the play. Yeah. Fight fire with fire. Yeah, I think they do that. I don’t think that you’re allowed to Well, you’re allowed to push. Yeah, you can. He’s saying throw guys over the line. Yeah. Where what are the rules on defense? He’s saying launch lift them up and throw Well, can you can you propel a player on defense? Can you grab a player on defense and then push towards the ball? You can reverse Mike Leech like getting a a shorter person and launching them over the line. Yeah. I don’t understand why they keep saying player safety when no player’s ever gotten hurt from the play. Yeah. No, it makes no sense. They’re trying They’re trying to scare you. No, no player has ever gotten hurt. Chris Jones. Max, let me just follow what you’re saying real quick. Are you saying that the NFL doesn’t care about player safety? Yeah. No. What? But they’re Are you serious? They’re just They’re just whiny babies, Max. The NFL does not care about player safety. They just say player. It’s basically the all due respect of the NFL where they can say whatever they want afterwards. They say player safety and then they’re like, “Yeah, you know what? Let’s send a team to [ __ ] Spain and play on weird grass and then have them come back and play a game six days later, but we care about player safety.” That’s That’s fair. That’s fair. That’s fair. That’s the whole That’s the whole thing they do. Also, defenses are uh maybe this is just kicking plays. It might be on They’re not allowed to push or pull their own teammates is what I’m reading in the rule book right now. Might just be on kicking plays, though. BFD, the other rule that is up for grabs this week, which I am going to be upset about, is they are proposing to do playoff seating one through seven strictly based on record. uh automatically get in if you are a wild card or if you win the division, but they’re going to do it on record. Uh I hate this. I don’t like it either cuz it’s fun when you have a team that’s below 500 that somehow wins a playoff game. It also doesn’t make sense if you if you’re going to have like the division winner should get a home playoff game. That should be it like some years it sucks. last year. This is all reaction to one year where the NFC North was really good and and the Packers and Vikings had really good records and they had to go all the way down to the wild card. They’re making the argument because they did this whole slideshow. I read this article that uh they essentially showed that week 17 and 18 will have less starters sitting because they’ll be just more up for grabs. Like last year, the Eagles could have gone down to the three seed. Uh the Texans were locked into the four seed last year. They could have gone all the way down to the seven. So, their argument is you have to play the whole season. I get that part. I just think that if you’re gonna play a lopsided schedule where you play six teams in your division, you should reward the winner of that division. I agree. If you’re if you’re not going to, then get rid of divisions, which would also suck. If you’re in a great division, then yes, absolutely. If it means more if you’re able to beat that division, get it puts more on the line in those games. Yeah. So, I I agree with this. So, I think it’s reactionary to like this one thing that happened that could have blown up in their faces, but it didn’t even really blow up in their faces that much. Yeah. I’m just scared that once cuz my my knee-jerk reaction was like, “This is stupid. They’re they’re being reactionary.” And then I saw that someone uh put together a slideshow about the ratings and week 17 and 18 starters. And that makes me nervous because if there’s one thing the NFL will do is change everything so that more people watch. That’s true. So, that’s where I’m scared that this could pass. They’re also voting on whether or not to allow players to play in the Olympics in flag football. I think that passed. Did it officially passed? Okay, it passed. Uh, so you can make the rules saying that the players are allowed to play in the Olympics, but I don’t know if you’ve seen the flag football players that we already have playing flag football for us. And I don’t know that Patrick Mahomes would be an upgrade on what we got at quarterback. No, we got that guy who’s like 5’8, right? 170 lbs who throws it so weird, but he said he’s better than Patrick Mahomes. Flag football specialist. Patrick Mahomes wouldn’t understand this game. Pretty sure Patrick Mahomes would be able to be good at flag football. No, not better than this guy. It’s true. This guy is He’s dialed in. He doesn’t Patrick Mahomes doesn’t understand the rules of flag football. It’s so arrogant for NFL players to think that they can just go in and dominate football. Could you imagine Lamar trying to get Lamar Jackson’s flag? It would be so funny. Oh, I can’t wait for the schedule release video that we do for the US flag football team just roasting every other country. I’m just imagining like a a Croatian dude trying to grab the flag of Lamar Jackson. Yeah. That we He would never He would never be down. Or Tyreek Hill. Yeah. Oh, man. Uh All right. Your cool throne. Uh my cool throne is I got two. One is Friendship. Oh, friendship’s on the Cool Throne. As we discussed a couple months ago, I I uh drunkenly ordered eight tickets to go see AC/DC. And then I had Greer give away all the tickets because I didn’t want to feel anyone to feel left out in this office. Smart move. I got a little notification yesterday from one of the people that had committed to going. Ben Mintz. Oh no. And he got an offer for another ticket. A better offer. I think I think my ticket might be better. I didn’t ask, but Ben was like, “Is it cool if I take this other ticket and then you can have my ticket?” Wait, so he gifted your ticket back? My ticket back to me. What a guy. So now Hank, I’d like to formally invite you to go see AC/DC on Saturday at Soldier Field. I actually I mean I appreciate the offer. I do have uh I got family in town, man. Cuz you’ve been complaining about not getting to go see AC/DC. Well, I accepted it initially and then when you took it away from me, I made other plans. Okay. Well, Hank, I want I want to give Don’t you have someone else you need to get a ticket for? What about me? I’ll pick out. Would you like to go? I’ll accept the ticket. Okay. Hank, would you like to take my ticket? No. Oh, all right. I’m going to give my ticket back. Tell you what. No. You have someone else you need to give a ticket to. I’m giving Big Cat’s ticket back to Big Cat. And now Big Cat gets to decide who gets the last ticket to the AC/DC. I can’t go. You’re not going to take a free ticket? I would love to. I got I got other I got commitments. You got What was that? Responsibilities. Do you have 18 commitments on Saturday? No. What if we got you another ticket? Two tickets. Yeah. All right. So So we just got to get you one more ticket. You know what? Let’s get Let’s get Let’s convince Mincity he’s got to give us that extra ticket. The new ticket that he has. That he has. We’ll get that one and I’ll give two to Hank. Okay. Hank’s in. No. Big Cat, you are now officially in charge of giving away this last ticket to somebody. I actually think there might be a ticket up for I I think I think I heard someone someone bailed in the in the Greer crew. Okay. So So we got two tickets. Am I going to end up with all the tickets now? Do you want me to ask if there’s an extra ticket? I could I could Yeah, I I got an extra Hank wants to go. And Greer’s got an extra ticket. So we’ve got two extra tickets right now. So Hank’s going to go. Then I would go. You would go if there were two tickets. Yeah. You would take two tickets and then just not use one and use one. No, he’s going to he’s going to use the other one. He’s going to go with someone. My cousin is is staying like he’s moving in on Sunday, so he’s staying with me Saturday. So, I don’t want to just leave him behind a job. Okay. He’s moving to Chicago. Oh, nice. Where’d he get a job? He’s interning. He’s got an internship. Uh my other cool throne is acting. Acting on I can’t believe we didn’t talk about this on uh on Sunday or maybe even uh Friday when it came out. Uh, there’s a movie coming out about the Raiders and Oh, yeah. And it I thought this was AI. I Me too. When I first saw it, it’s going to star Nick Cage and Christian Bale. Nick Cage is going to play John Madden. It looks so good. Which is incred. By the way, I watched The Rock on Saturday. Still holds up. Of course, that is a [ __ ] banger of movie. I’m going to watch it. Yeah, it’s so good. Losers cry about their best. Winners go home and [ __ ] to the prom queen. It’s so good. Look at this. Yeah, Christian Bale and Nick Cage. Christian Bale is Al Davis. Nick Cage is John Madden. I saw somewhere Shane Gillis is in it. Yeah, I got I gotta say they nailed the pants in. I’ve seen a bunch of pictures of Nick Cage walking around wearing pants and it’s like those are John Madden 1970s pants. I’m so excited. It’s hard to do a good sports movie. Like there’s a lot more I feel like there’s more bad sports movies than good ones. Yeah. So I’m I’m rooting for this. Well, here’s the thing about I think the F1 movie with Brad Pitt will be good too. Ford vers Ferrari. No, that movie is great. Shout out Peter Turner. Um, no, there’s a new one that’s coming out. Oh, okay. The the thing with sports movies, they get a lot better if they have the official logos. Yes. So, like Draft Day would have sucked as a movie. Yes. Like terrible acting from whoever played the running back that was drafted by the Browns. I forget that guy’s name, but he sucked. Uh, but if they didn’t have the official logos for the teams, that movie would suck. They had the official logos and the movie was awesome. Yeah. This is going to have the official logos. So now I’m going to watch and be like, is this the NFL? I think I’m watching the NFL right now. It’ll trick me into thinking the movie is good no matter. And also with those two acting. [ __ ] yeah. Sign me up. Uh, okay. My hot seat is uh the Phoenix Suns. Phoenix Suns, as everyone remembers, uh, they sold their team. What was the old owner’s names? Robert Sarver. That sounds right. Yeah. Uh, for kind of institutional chaos in the Phoenix Suns. Uh, I think he was a wee bit of a racist maybe allegedly. I can’t remember. NBA owner. I can’t believe I can’t remember the details to it, but that’s neither here nor there. Uh, Matt Ishbia bought the team and uh, guess what? They’re back in it because there’s a lawsuit now out uh, that Sun CEO Josh Bartlestein might have had an inappropriate relationship with Sophie Cunningham who played on the Phoenix Mercury. So, uh, the Suns are back in it. So, this guy Bartlestein, I looked him up, you know, he was a a college basketball player. Yeah, Michigan. He’s a Michigan man. This is what I think of when I think of Michigan men. This guy. And uh Yeah, I I kind of like having chaos around ownership groups in the NBA. I don’t know what to think about this one. Was this an affair or was it allegations of an affair? Uh there was a I think there’s been three different uh lawsuits filed against the Suns for uh like you know bad workplace unsafe conditions, discrimination, they basically have just been getting the same thing the old owner got. And then in one of these lawsuits, I think it was an old uh an ex security guard uh like team security guard who filed a lawsuit about racial discrimination and demotion. And in that he was like, “Oh yeah, the Sun CEO and Sophie Cunningham are [ __ ] So, do we know that that’s true? It’s all alleged as right now.” But it’s just also very funny because the Suns are just back in it. If true, uh you probably need to fire that guy. Yeah. I don’t think that you can be better. At least fire him from the Mercury side of it because he’s the CEO of both. Yeah. Well, unless he’s sleeping with any of the dudes or That’s true. You got You’re gonna have to do a little research. Going to have to do a little research. Also, my hot seat is um and this guy seems like a nice guy, but uh I have a problem with his reporting. Uh, I don’t know if you guys saw, but in the in BP the other night, uh, on Monday night, there was a Reds player who hit a pigeon uh, with a I think it was I think he hit the ball and hit a pigeon. Yeah. Charlie Goldmith reported in batting practice today, Red’s player hit a pigeon with a line drive. Unfortunately, the pigeon passed away immediately. I immediately was like, “Rip to the pigeon. I feel terrible that we loved that pigeon.” I missed his update. He said, “Update. The pigeon is alive, but he’s essentially on life support. I don’t know what pigeon life support is. So maybe they they injected him with that stuff that lowers the body temperature. Yeah. And just put him in a coma. Yeah. It’s a miracle on ice. Yeah. I think that this uh pigeon if it if it pulls through, then the Reds are the team of destiny. Yeah. I I haven’t gotten an update on what’s happening with the pig. I mean, the pigeon also could have had uh do not resuscitate on his license. Is the pigeon brain dead? Yeah. So they so they could have the pigeon family could have pulled the pulled the plug. So they’ve just got maybe a pigeon in a hospital bed with like a feeding tube of of mushed up sunflower seeds that’s just going right into its stomach. Just trash. Yeah. It’s just it’s just like a solo cup and trash going just ground up into his feeding tube. Yeah. This is I mean this is sad stuff. Real sad stuff. I hope I hope the pigeon’s okay. Um it would be amazing comeback. Would be amazing. Cincinnati man. Yeah. Yeah. Something with Well said, Hank. Throw it in there. I mean the true the advancements they’ve they’ve made in bird health. Yeah. Tomorrow is kind of crazy. Prayers for tomorrow. Harambe or sweet prince. Yeah. I mean both both those things. Yeah. I mean this happened on a on a Harambe obviously part of it because the animal but Deamar died for a second on a field. So did this pigeon. Yeah. I mean if this happened at a Bengals practice the jokes would just be like oh another season cursed by injuries for the Bengals. We need to get a name on this pigeon. I need an update on this pigeon. Uh and then my cool throne is Tom Cruz because he eats two buckets of uh popcorn at the movie theaters and that is awesome. That’s very relatable. One bucket is never enough. You guys do I try to do what was that face mask? What? One bucket is is bucket is no bucket. I’ve never come close to even like putting a I don’t even put a dent in. I don’t get a second bucket, but I finished my bucket before the movie starts. That’s soft on Hank and Max’s part because you never that that one bucket of popcorn. You can finish that. But there’s I don’t I don’t believe that you guys have never I don’t believe for a second you’ve never finished a popcorn. I finished my popcorn before the movie starts. Maybe if I was in like a like me and one other person, I’ve I’ve I’ve never like got gotten to the bottom of the You’re soft. Yeah, that is soft. I finished I finish one popcorn every time. Also, the end of the popcorn is always kind of like, you know, when it’s like ground up when you the the bottom of the popcorn can’t be great. So, that’s where I would go get a second. I never really get up and get a second because usually that’s right when the movie is starting and I don’t want to miss it. But, I like this move by Tom Cruz. That’s a beast move. I went to a movie and he definitely knows like the best parts time to get a popcorn. That is true. I’m not in this scene for the next 5 minutes. I went to a movie a couple weeks ago. My very first bite of popcorn got a kernel stuck right in between on the very first bite. Nothing will ruin your day like bite number one. Worst the worst worst feel. We should do that for Mount Rushmore. Worst minor inconveniences. Yeah, we might have done that. Definitely definitely. But I don’t I don’t remember ever talking about the popcorn kernel in your mouth. Tom Cruz just throwing on the charm there. Look at him. Look at that. He’s just popping it back. Oh, that’s not even a bucket. That’s different. That is different. He’s eating a small like a a bag. You know what that bag is? That’s like a bag they give you at a a screening of an important movie that comes out. Hey, here’s your your popcorn. And if you get a small when you’re actually at a movie that you pay for, the small is about like it’s the size of a keg. It’s crazy. Shout out to these are still small. I’m looking at another picture of him eating buckets. It’s another smaller bucket. Yeah. See, this is free popcorn. Shout out Tom Cruz. Like the whole Scientology thing is very weird and he probably knows where Shelley Mscavage like is uh her body is buried and everything. He just was like, “Yeah, I’m gonna put out a new Top Gun and everyone’s going to forget about that.” Yeah. I mean, Scientology, say what you want about the religion, but they picked the best spokesman that they could ever get, Tom. But seriously, like he it felt like the block was getting a little hot with the documentaries and everything. He’s like, I know Top Gun 2. Yeah, people won’t care anymore. It was a banger of moment. It was such a good It was really good. I can’t wait for Top Gun 3. Um, all right, let’s get to our interviews. We got Biz and then we’ve got our guy uh Chris Burman, the schwam. Before we get to Biz, he’s brought to you by Truly and their Truly Unruly Lemonade. It combines the high elk fun of Truly Unruly with everyone’s favorite lemonade. 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We’re two days removed from the Leafs getting absolutely [ __ ] pumped at home in a game seven. and Biz, let’s start with that game. So, we want to talk about the conference finals and who you have to win, but how are you doing? You’re fully like, do you know that you can take off the Leafs gear now? I just figured I’d come in costume, right? I’ve been a clown for them all playoffs long, but uh not so much sad, just disappointing. Like, you know, I knew Florida was a a great team, defending Stanley Cup champions, but for them to show up like that in games five and seven at home, I I just I couldn’t believe it. I thought they took their [ __ ] in game five. So coming back, especially after the way they played in game six on the road where they locked it up defensively, you know, they they didn’t make many stupid plays. They were great defensively. Penalty kill was good. Uh I was just shocked to see them come home and and lay an egg like that. But uh ultimately the pressure was too much. And uh credit to the Florida Panthers, man. They [ __ ] beat the [ __ ] out of the Leafs. Like as far as defenseman and hits taken throughout playoffs, I believe the Leafs uh their top five defenseman were in the top seven as far as hits taken. Chris Tanv being the the most overund hits he took uh throughout the first two rounds. So Warriors back there, but uh yeah, just disappointing on uh on the effort in game seven. So where do we go from here? Leafs fans. I I mean MNER during the game, the cameras obviously caught him, you know, get maybe he was getting the team fired up, but he looked disappointed. He did a press conference today, seemed to be non-committal about whether or not he was coming back. I He ain’t coming back. Do we blow it up? Are we blowing it up? I I I got a question before that about the Marner clip of him yelling to the team. Was his hair too dry to be yelling like that? Listen, like the I’m asking the the the internet’s going to run with it. I think that like, you know, obviously he’s wearing a letter and he’s trying to be a leader in that situation. Um, I think it’s a little bit difficult when it’s a guy like that at that particular time saying something where maybe he hasn’t been at his best, especially come that second round. Um, there’s a stat um I think he’s played uh like 20 to 22 games, games 5 to7 throughout his playoff career at the Toronto Maple Leafs and he doesn’t have a goal and he’s got seven assists. So based on his regular season performance and numbers, like he just hasn’t lived up to what not only he’s being paid, but what the hype is um in in crunch time. And I think that that is a little bit of the criticism that’s being snapped around as far as the whole core for. Um for those of you listening who are not fully aware of this situation, the Toronto Maple Leafs have had these four guys, John Tveris, Austin Matthews, William Knander, and Mitch Marner who, you know, making a lot of money. the the core group for the Toronto Maple Leafs have constantly been criticized about not being able to make it out of the second round. Sometimes they can’t even make it out of the first round. And uh ultimately this was kind of the last season where you were going to see the four assembled where Mitch Martner’s contracts up. They tried to trade him at the deadline for Mo Rottman and that became made public along all the other along all the other things where like I guess you could say Mitch and his camp have felt disrespected and where the Leafs have maybe lacked loyalty towards him, but at the end of the day like the core four hasn’t gotten it done. They’re all making big big money. Uh Mitch Marner off his entry level contract signed a deal where he’s making $10 million. So, there’s only been one player who makes $10 million or more who has ever won a Stanley Cup. And that just go speaks to the volumes of how with the hard cap, you have to snap the money around and you can’t just rely on a couple guys throughout these runs. Like, it has to be like you you have to snap the money around. Sergey Babroski is that guy who has won it. He’s got a cap hit of exactly $10 million. Uh John Tiverus is at 11. Austin Matthews who just resigned a contract. He’s making 13 and a half. He was playing hurt throughout these playoffs. I think the diagnosis and what exactly he was playing through will come out later on. Uh he did score in game six, but as far as offensive output compared to the regular season, just like Mitch, he he struggled also, but I think people are a little bit more lenient on Austin Matthews because he has to play center and he he’s good defensively. He breaks up a lot of plays. Um, I mean, in the first two games at home in the series against Florida, you know, he he was uh they were they’re plus three, like they’d scored three goals there line against Sasha Barkov, who’s an incredible two-way centerman for the Florida Panthers. So, they were maybe he wasn’t lighting up the score sheet, but he was doing his job stopping him defensively and doing everything else um that that is involved in a good 200 foot game. So, John Tiveres, who is the older guy who was from Toronto, who was brought in as a free agent, uh, signed a seven-year deal where when he left the New York Islanders and Frankie, um, he’s he’s done that contract. So, I would be surprised if they brought him back, but they might with a hometown discount. So, three of the four core four members might be back. My theory would be that you bring back Knander, you bring back Matthews, and you can build around those guys. And with Mner and Tiverus coming off the books, you have 21 million to spend right there in free agency. So that’s kind of the synopsis as what as to what’s going on. And uh it’s it’s shitty, man. It was brutal. Like to see Whit described it perfectly like Mitch Marner is a Toronto kid who was drafted top five to them, played for the London Knights in the OHL, gets to live his childhood dream playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs. He’s making all-star games, putting up 99 point, 100 point seasons. Um, obviously we talked about his playoff performance, but you know, his last game as a Toronto Maple Leaf, they get beat 6-1 at home and they’re getting booed off the ice, jerseys on the ice, beers being thrown on the ice, like just like not how you thought that it would end for like, you know, a dream scenario of this kid getting to play in his hometown. So, he won’t be back. It sucks. Um, I do feel bad for him as far as the amount of heat that he’s probably taking personally. I don’t think that I think that when you are very vocal and and a little bit greedy in contract negotiations thinking that you’re worth a certain amount and you don’t live up to that, especially in crunch time. I mean, it’s Toronto. You’re playing in a big market. You want to put yourself in that situation and not snap the money around a little bit more other places. Well, you’re going to have to fall on the sword, right? I think that getting guys that are from Toronto might actually just make the problem worse because they’ve grown up as you know the with all the the Leafs failures that they’ve had in the playoffs like that moment becomes bigger if it’s a team that you grew up rooting for and now you’re in that moment right? Yeah I I would agree with that because you really can’t escape it right like your roots are in Toronto everybody who knows a Leafs fan like you you just can’t get out of your bubble and and that’s where I I sympathize for these guys. cuz we had Matthew Kachchuck on uh to come stuff me in a locker for the what 14th time this season um on yesterday’s podcast and he goes I feel for those guys they competed but he goes any other market if they’re living somewhere else I feel like they’re a way better team essentially saying that the pressure and of how ridiculous fans are in Toronto u it’s counteractive even necessarily home ice advantage in fact you’d rather go play on the road like they did in game six get away from the noise but buddy, you’re playing in the big smoke. Like, yeah, like you know, I I you know, you be vocal about not not signing there or don’t bend them over in contract negotiations. And the the but going back though, that is the one of the bigger issues that I have with who is in charge and when they handed these deals over. Like I think that, you know, Mitch Marner, Austin Matthews, William Knander are incredible players. Knander actually out of his entry level only ended up signing a $7 million deal. So he was being fairly paid if not maybe a little bit underpaid. But Matthews and Marner got the big tickets, right? And that’s where I feel like they because they were restricted. If I was the general manager, I would have said, “Hey, I I get that you guys are are going to be superstars in this league, but you haven’t proven [ __ ] So this is the number we’re prepared to offer you. You’re restricted. If you don’t want to sign it, sit the [ __ ] at home and we’ll get the job done without you until you want to sign something that’s more of a fair deal. I got uh I got a fun little game that we can play and then maybe we can move on to some things that aren’t Maple Leafs related, but I’m going to give you a list of things and you tell me if these things happened before or after the Leafs won their last Stanley Cup. This is good. Okay. All right. Post-it notes were invented. I would say that those were invented uh past post. For people who at home, the last time the Leaf won the cup was 677. Yeah, that’s bang on. That was that was after they won the last Stanley Cup. Uh the Rubik’s Cube. I would say the Rubik’s Cube is after they won the cup. That’s also after they won the cup. Yeah. Um next one. Dialing 911. I would say that you could I mean were phones. Yeah, I would say that was before. No, that was after also. That was after they won. Uh the ATM. Oh, for sure. After that was also after uh The Nation of the Bahamas. After. That’s also after. Yeah. Uh Star Wars. After. Also after. Correct. And uh Landing on the Moon. After. Also after. Yeah, they were all after. These are all things that have happened since they won the Stanley Cup. Wow. Wasn’t that a fun game? That’s a tough one. That’s a real tough one. Yeah, that um Yeah, Leafs fans are cursed. It’s much like the Boston Red Sox before they won theirs. The curse of the Bambino. Um and and I actually thought that there was a chance maybe there was a chance in that game where kind of like when the the Boston Red Sox were down in game four. I weren’t Weren’t they down like three, four nothing in that game and rallied to win game four and then rattled off four straight wins? Yeah, I thought maybe at maybe when Max Doi put that in for a split second, I thought there was a possibility they could come back in that game, but 45 seconds later, they made it 4-1 and and and then the onslaught of jerseys and beers started flooding the ice and and they got booed. Ty Doy knew when they showed him in the stands, he was just like he didn’t even think about celebrating down 3-1 and he was just it was just steel jaw. Uh all right, so let’s go from uh bad to worse. So you the Maple Leafs lose. You get like mocked online relentlessly. Uh everyone’s laughing at you. Yeah. And then one of your number one of your like top foes two days later gets out of jail. Glass bangers out of jail. Correct. And he’s going to go he’s going to go to the games and see the stars the Western Conference final. Oh, he might not. I don’t know if they’re going to I don’t think they’re going to let him in the building. Okay. Okay. So, okay. So, for for those of you who don’t know, they’ve had this longtime fan in Dallas who wears an all-white suit and he has a a cardboard cutout that says #bang and when the play goes in the offensive zone where like when Dallas is there or when the play even comes near him, he’s like standing up and banging on the glass and like bodychecking the glass. He’s essentially their sixth man in on the forch check, but he’s so obnoxious and he brings like hookers to the game. So he just completely annoys everybody in his section, including the people who are sitting behind him. Like they don’t want to see this guy standing up blocking the the vision and and and creating all this noise. And nobody likes glass bangers at hockey games. It’s a faux paw. You don’t bang on the glass. Like those people are the most painful, annoying people on the planet. So he apparently had a bunch of DUIs and then like didn’t show up for his court date and in December of 2024. So about what 6 months ago, five, six months ago, he got thrown in the clink. So he was gone. Obviously he wasn’t in his seats for the first two rounds. Well, I think he just got out in the last couple days. So the Dallas Stars have been rolling. They beat the Colorado Avalanche who who people a lot of people thought could win the Stanley Cup with the roster they had. Uh they didn’t have their top scorer and best defenseman in the lineup. They get through Colorado. Well, their top scorer comes back. Um, they still were waiting on their best defenseman. Well, they end up winning the last round and getting through that one uh uh against the Winnipeg Jets in six games. So, all of a sudden, hey, smooth sailing. They’re going to play the Edmonton Oilers, a very difficult conference finals. And then he drops the hammer today on on Twitter that he’s back and they get their best fan back. Holy [ __ ] Uh, I would say best slash worst depends who you ask, right? I think in his own I just love the rivalry you have with him. Yeah, it’s not I’m just I’m just fascinated by him because the Leafs have never gone against him. It’s more about like is he aware that his own fans hate his guts? I’m sure he is aware of that. Uh is he actually going to be in his seats come game one of the the conference finals cuz they have home ice advantage, right? Wit’s loving this. like he’s like the whit might buy his tickets to put him in that seat because he’s such a mush for them and he’s more of a distraction than a than a fan including rattling all the other people who have had peace and quiet for this last 6 months at Dallas Stars games. Yeah. So, but think about the prostitutes. They’re going to be happy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the the money train the money trains back. The bartenders I I’ll I’ll show your uh your viewers a a picture of him. Unless you guys are able to pick it. Uh yeah, you can send it to me and we’ll put it in the YouTube. Yeah. Yep. Look, I’m back, baby. Oh, man. I just love any fans that think they matter this much. It’s the best. This is what makes sports so funny. But he think he thinks you should be paid like Mitch Martner. Yeah. Right. Right. This is So, all right. So, let’s talk about this series. uh who’s going to win and how is Wit feeling? So, I picked the Oilers and then Wit said, “No, you can’t. You’re done. You’re a mush. Stay away from my team.” So, then I switched my pick to Dallas and seven. Um I I’ll be I’ll be heartbroken for either of these teams because Pete Dbor, the Dallas Stars head coach, he’s never won a Stanley Cup. Um he’s he’s been to the conference finals, I want to say, the last seven years, guys, and he’s been fired in two of those years. So, he went with uh I believe San Jose Sharks was one of them and then the Vegas Golden Knights was the other one that he went with. Um and he’s just kind of been shipped around and he’s found a great home in Dallas. So, he’s 9 and0 in game sevens in playoff history. So, if it does go seven, look out. He’s undefeated. Um and also Jamie Ben, their captain, who hasn’t won a Stanley Cup. I would put Jamie Ben up there with like Joe Thornton. Um, and and the list goes on of a certain few like Jerome McGin, like legends who have who have never won the big one, who you feel bad if they retire and they never got the hoist to Stanley. Conor McDavid, Conor McDavid at this point, but he’s only halfway through his career. He hasn’t won the big one and he’s in his prime. But boy, he’s like I I have a hard time betting against the Oilers right now because you got Leon and Connor, the the biggest dynamic duo um in sports right now. and the fact that they’re getting secondary scoring finally like the the I believe that that that they’ve gotten goals outside of Connor and Leon. I think they have 16 goals right now contributed by like basically their their um like their bottom six/roll guys and all of last year’s run they only had I believe 12 or 14. So already halfway through playoffs, they’ve outscored last year’s uh role players, which is huge, man, because I talked about it like you’re when you’re like with the Toronto Maple Leafs, when you’re paying all the top guys, like it’s hard because you can’t just rely on a few players. You really truly need everyone. So, uh they’ve been getting great contributions from everyone, but I Dallas has home ice. They’re a wagon. They got that Miro Hkin in back who will be the best defenseman in that all-around defenseman in that series. Uh Evan Buchard on Edmonton’s side is a lethal offensive defenseman who’s been playing incredible. Um so guys, it’s it’s like both of these teams could easily win a Stanley Cup. Uh but the problem is is they’re going to beat the [ __ ] out of each other and then Florida gets to play Carolina, which I think they’ll make damage of in about five or six and then a little bit easier of a path to get to the Stanley Cup finals. In my opinion, I think everybody would agree that that Oilers and Dallas playing each other, like those are two two juggernauts going at it. So, with the uh with the Hurricanes, you think that this is a matchup where the Panthers should dominate. So, there’s a few things that Carolina has on its side. They have home ice advantage. They were able to beat Washington in five games, so they do have rest. So, they’ve been sitting there waiting at home for the Leafs and Panthers to finish the sevename series. Well, they finish Sunday. I just talked to you about how physical Florida is. Like they This is This could be if they make it past this round, their third straight Stanley Cup finals. So, that’s a lot of hockey being played, boys. Like, we’re not talking about, you know, a sport with no with no contact. We’re talking about the one of the most physical, if not the most physical sport in the world, especially based on the grind. 82 games and then going through playoffs every other day. So, um, so Carolina, they got a they got great goalending, they have rest, they have home ice advantage, and the fact that Florida has played so much hockey, to me, I I wouldn’t be shocked if it goes seven games with Carolina, but I think that Florida should win this series in six, if not maybe five games. Um, yeah, that’s that’s my opinion. And and and a lot of people have been criticizing Carolina about maybe playing boring hockey. They do compared to like boring hockey when the New Jersey Devils were doing like the left wing lock and hanging out in the neutral zone in 2-1 games. Like they like Carolina goes like they might not get all these amazing glor glorious scoring chances because they tend to just throw a lot of pucks towards the net maybe from non-threatening positions but they’re also sending guys there and then like on the for check like they’re D you’re pinching like they’re getting up and they swarm you. So, at least it’s like fast and in your face where it’s like, you know, it’s not just sitting back and and necessarily extremely boring. And I feel like Florida and Carolina have very similar systems in the sense that they’re very aggressive with their D. They’re great at filtering back and and like protecting like the forwards are great at supporting their defenseman who are pushing up. They both have great goalending. They both have extremely good penalty kills. Um, I would give the advantage to Florida on the power play. Carolina did struggle earlier in that series against Washington. They started figuring it out towards the end, but Florida comes at you like so hard. And then as far as Carolina’s concerned, I want to say they were top one or two penalty kills all season long. And that’s that that’s the case every year, year over year. So that was the one thing that I came away really impressed with the Hurricanes on is their their penalty kill. on the penalty kill. Not only do they stop you from getting shots off and stop you from getting through the neutral zone, they also counterattack really well on the penalty. They get they get opportunities for a short-handed goal almost every time. As a as a player, what makes a great penalty kill? Uh they they are just well connected. So they don’t just sit back in and in in like a little like they call it the box or sometimes they call it the triangle. depending how the offense sets up. You basically like rotate it to take away what the the offense is trying to accomplish. But they’ll have one guy attack where okay, well then the offensive player will move it to the open guy, but that next guy for Carolina knows that his guy’s going. So they anticipate one another. So they all close on you very quick. So, you have to make like two, three quick really, really good plays in order to beat their their defense where, you know, with how hard they come and how fast they pressure, it’s hard like at at that level to make like two, three really quick good plays. And if you’re you’re able to accomplish that, you probably will end up getting a scoring chance. So, Florida Florida is is very strong on their power play because they have good high options with guys who can shoot the puck and have bombs, but they also have really good low plays. So, they have a good option everywhere in Florida, including uh Sam Reinhardt, who is up for the one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL. Like him and Sasha Barkov on Florida are up for the Selki trophy. So, not only are they amazing offensive players, but they’re being um recognized as how good they are defensively. Like Sam Reinhardt’s a 50 goal scorer. So, he he is in their bumper position where if Kachchuck doesn’t like the low play, he’ll hit it to hit him in the slot and boom, it’s off his stick top corner. Just a lethal sniper. So, um I would, like I said, advantage power play for Florida, but both of them lethal lethal penalty kills. and Carolina, they they roll four lines and they’re high energy all game long. They have six great defenseman, four great lines, so they’re able to maintain that that high pace throughout the course of a 60 minutes. Rarely do you see lulls cuz they’re not just relying on the top guys all the time. They spread the ice time out very evenly as does Florida. Like Florida’s got two guys, two forwards sitting out that could easily be inserted in the lineup and you wouldn’t even notice and wouldn’t even blink. and they could put one of those guys like Bowquist on the top line with Bararkov and he would fit right in because Bararkov’s just that nasty. So, I think that high high-end superstar talent also advantage Florida. But, let’s see if the rest um and the home ice and the fact that Florida’s beat up can pay dividends for Carolina cuz the last three times Carolina’s been to the conference finals, they haven’t won a game. They got swept by um I believe they got swept by the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Boston Bruins, and then last time two years ago, the Florida Panthers. Like we had the series, the games were very close. They were all I believe one-goal games, but you know, they just Florida can play any way you want. That’s what makes them dogs. Oh, you want to play the up and down game? We’ll play that. Oh, you want to lock [ __ ] down? We’ll lock [ __ ] down, too. Oh, you want to try to be physical? Oh, yeah. We’ll [ __ ] stuff you in a locker. So they are just they’re a Florida’s a well welloiled machine. And who are the two best no most noticeable players on the ice in game seven against the Leafs? Brad Marshaw and Seth Jones the two guys they make deals for at the deadline. So as far as management top to down Florida’s looking good. Rank the four goalies left. Oh wow. Um so I would probably have to put Bob at the top. Babski just because he’s been there, done that. Um he seems very dialed like maybe not as good early in the series against uh Toronto, but he tends to figure things out as the series progresses and like I said, he’s just locked in right now. Guy’s got a couple couple Vzna, Stanley Cup champion. He gets the nod. Two, I would put Auter um upand cominging USA goalender. Uh just beat out Hleabuk who is the starter for team USA at the Four Nations. um he he’s really trying to prove himself as the number one American goalender, especially ahead of next year’s Olympics, and he seems very dialed right now. Um and yeah, I would put him as the number two. And Freddy, I would say shared position at number two with Freddy Anderson. Freddy Anderson’s with Carolina. Um he’s dealt with a lot of injuries, blood clots, you name it. Uh didn’t play the whole season this year. very shared the net, but these playoffs, I think he has the best save percentage right now going in uh to the to the conference finals. Like he’s been unbelievable. It’s a testament to also the guys in front of him and how they play team defense. Uh he also looks like Ed Sheeran. So there’s a little fun fact when Wedom is for Halloween one year. So if you guys want to check out that costume online and then last I would put the Oilers goending. It’s been shaky. Uh Picar Pickard went in for uh Steuart Skinner. Stewart Skinner got the reset and he’s gotten shut outs in his back-to-back games in the last round um against the Vegas Golden Knights. So no disrespect to him. He’s an Edmonton kid. You talked about pressure of being a a Toronto kid playing in Toronto. He’s been he’s been pretty vocal about like the anxiety that he deals with because of the amount of pressure playing in a Canadian market as a starting goalender. um he’s got the net back after Calvin Pickard kind of saved them a little bit and he’s posted backto-back shutouts against the Vegas Golden Knights. So, he’s the fourth guy, but like last year, he turned it on the later it got in the playoffs. So, and and the bounceback from the I mean the horrendous goal he let up for the one game that the Knights won, he then bounces back with with back-to-back shutouts. So, it’s like he that might be a change in like his toughness, grit, like he answered the bell in that. You know what, BigCat? Sometimes when you’re maybe playing a little too much hockey, especially as a goalender, um you get away from your fundamentals and you start being a little bit like uh like like slipping around too much, not being in position. And um you know, when I was uh doing radio for the Phoenix Coyotes, Rick Tocket was the head coach and uh we had Darcy Keer and this year he had an incredible year uh with the LA Kings. He was nominated for the VZNA Trophy. um and uh he was scrambling like that and they gave him like a week to reset with Cory Schwab, the goalending coach and then he came back and he was one of the best goalenders the rest of the year. So sometime as a goalie because when you’re being put out there, you have to stay focused the whole 60 minutes. Like guys are getting a change and you know if they make a mistake, well they got the defense to help them out. Well, if the defense makes a mistake, they got the goalie to help them out. They’re the last man there. Right. Right. So sometimes they just need that mental reset, get back to their old techniques and that could pay massive massive dividends and and I’m happy for them, man. That’s it must be a mental grind going through a season in Canada like that. Yeah. Yeah. So u are you rooting for Ryan Whitney to get Stanley Cup? Like how how intolerable is he going to be? No, he’s not nearly as intolerable as I am with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I I actually give him full marks and full credit and and you know for me it’s it’s been over 30 years now since uh Canada’s brought home a Stanley Cup. A lot of Americans like to use that against us. I want the Americans to keep in mind these American teams are like built of 50% Canadian players on these rosters that are winning them the Stanley Cup. But I would like especially this season after winning four nations and you know the USA all the barking going on in USA. I would like the cup to come back to Canada for that reason and of course like Conor McDavid, man. What he’s done for the sport. Um the most electrifying hockey player we’ve seen since Wayne Gretzky and just for every you know every fiber of his being that he’s put into the game and um you know living up in Canada. I I hope he wins the big one because ju just like I was happy when Obie won the big one, right? that was something like a scarlet letter that was being used against him where you know he got that and then nobody ever talked about that again. He can ride off into the sunset and uh I I really hope that Conor McDavid David and Leon Dryettle are able to help them win a Stanley Cup and and like Edmonton the people of Edmonton are the nicest people on the planet. Like I really want them to like that’s all they live for. Yeah, nice. That’s it. It’d be nice. I I I have one one question about Obie because after seeing him in the series, uh I had some dark thoughts about Obie after game five. He didn’t seem to really skating around that much. He was kind of just getting out on the ice, standing there. He looked slow when he was skating. Is this something? Should I be worried about Obie going into next year? I think that next year, like it’s the last year of his contract. I think I believe he signed a three-year extension a few years ago. Yeah. He said he wasn’t retiring and Yeah. He’s not I I figured he would come back for sure next year. I mean, why wouldn’t you? He he scored what do he have 42 goals and he broke his leg and and missed some games. I think he played just over 60 games. So, when you’re on that type of heater, like why would you? And they have a solid team around him, so it’ll be enjoyable. Uh I would assume they make playoffs again next year. He’s just slowing down a little bit. Like it’s just, you know, the the the what’s the term? Father time is undefeated. Father time [ __ ] rights, big cat. there. And I think in playoffs, I think that did hurt them a little bit. Um, if I’m not lying, like I think that he should have been playing around 15 minutes a game for them to be efficient. And I think that he wanted to play more thinking that he could help the team, but with how fast that Carolina was, like they were getting exposed in that area, like I don’t think that Obi is a 20 minute uh a game guy now. So, um, I think that next year he will return. I think he’ll be playing right where he normally plays on the power play and I wouldn’t be shocked if he scores another 30 goals. But if he continues to slow down, it’s just hard in today’s day and age to keep up as far as skating. And he has been vocal about wanting to go play one more year and finishing off his career in Russia. Don’t know if that’s still the case, but I could see him after next year going back to the KHL and and playing one more year and and really having his final swan song and goodbye. I really really hope and this is not a political conversation at all. Next year’s Olympics, Russia’s not going to be playing. It’s it would suck because like politics out the window. It would be probably of Genny Malcans and and um Obie’s last opportunity to play in the Olympics. And there’s just so much momentum for the league and there’s so many good Russian players that are now coming into the NHL. Like you had Meechov this year who was in Philadelphia. Carrill Capri off like this kid is a top 10 player in the NHL. No doubt worth the price of admission. Uh this Nikesian kid who just showed up in Carolina who I didn’t mention during my breakdown with them. Like they would have like they could win a gold medal. That’s how good their young guys are along with the nostalgia of having Ovie and Malcolin kind of passing off the torch as well as the fact that it it probably would be Sydney Crosby’s last Olympics, right? Those two guys entered the league at the same time and have carried the torch for 20 years. Like we are blessed as hockey fans at the fact that these kids lived up to every bit of hype and surpassed it like insurmountably. So to see all of not only Russia, Canada, u um the list goes on. Sweden, Finland, u I think Germany’s going to be there with Leon Dryido, like it would just be so good for the sport with the momentum it has off of four nations. And would you guys not agree? Like I don’t know how hardcore of of hockey fans you are compared to other sports, but nothing has even came close to what the playoffs have provided in the first. Yeah, playoffs are the best. They are the best. It’s insane. I I think it I think the Stanley Cup is the hardest tournament to win. It is. No doubt. I think it’s harder to win a Stanley Cup than NBA championship. I know it’s impossible to actually measure those together, but just by the vibe of how things go and how hard these teams play, it feels like it’s an absolute grinder to get through the playoffs in hockey. Buddy, Florida just finished a sevengame series. They went to Toronto, packed for three games, and then won that game, flew to Carolina, and now they’re playing tonight. Like we have the broadcast. So less than 48 hours, you’re suiting up again for another seven game series, playing every other night in these humid temperatures. Carolina, Florida, and then if they win that, they got to go play another round against Edmonton or Dallas and then start on the road. Like, it’s it’s a [ __ ] grind, boys. And uh agreed. Hockeyy’s on a heater. And I have so much respect for these players. All right, I got one last question for you, Biz. We always love having you on. Uh rowback question. Rhoback.com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase. QZips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Promo code take. I want you to be honest with this question. Game six, Leafs Panthers happens. Was there a small part of you that was like, “Holy [ __ ] Oldie is my good luck charm. We’re going to win it all with Oldie.” I thought that by the time that Toronto’s run was over, there would be a statue of him outside of Scotia Bankers. I because I had the same feeling. I was like, “Oh my god, I think maybe this is I think Oldie may may be able to pull this off.” So, the craziest part about all this. So, like let’s talk let’s talk about Oldie for a second. and how this all came to be. I believe during Foreign Nations, I came on your pod and you guys were talking about the stream you were going to have and I said, “We need Canadian representation.” Yep. You guys kind of got the ball going on that you had about four or five people who you were considering for applicants to come in and watch it. And then Yans must have I think he listens to every single one of your shows and he said, “Boys, I got to send in this oldie guy.” Yep. So he put you guys in touch with this oldie and you you saw one second of his videos and you’re like, “This guy’s electric. We’re bringing him in.” So he does what he does on your guys stream. You guys hire him. He becomes famous overnight. Rightfully so, even though he’d done a bunch of stuff for NHL guys and teams in the past. So, fast forward to the other day where I before he Yans had came on your podcast, I mentioned that I was going back to Well, in Ontario for game five to go to a local watering hole to bring luck to the Leafs. So, Yans was trying to figure out where I was going to go. And he said on your show, he’s like, “I’m going to have Oie buddy him up. Oldie buddy him up.” Yeah. And and try to get information so I could send Panthers fans to where Biz is watching the game to [ __ ] with their mojo. Well, Oldie listened to that and then he DM’ me on Twitter. Then he tried to call me on Twitter. I didn’t even know you could do that. He’s a big FaceTimer. Big FaceTimer. Loves the FaceTime. So, I’m like, “Well, I’m going home.” I said, I texted Yan. I said, “Hey, can I get Old’s number?” And I invited him down to Wellin. And after just spending three hours with him, even though Toronto got [ __ ] kicked, I was like, he’s like the most positive guy in the world. He’s like, “Well, he’s” He’s like, “We’ll get him in six and four and” and and I’m and then and then Merl’s texted the chat. And he goes, “You should send him down there.” So I had my lucky shirt on me. I said, “Would you go down there with my lucky shirt to to bring the Leafs to Mojo?” Absolutely. What? He’s got a wife, two kids. He’s on the next plane down there. You know, takes the day off work and then does what he does behind the glass and makes friends with everybody. And I’m like, “Well, we got to send him to game seven.” And that didn’t work at all. It was close, though. Did he get kicked out? Is that what happened there? I saw a cop escorting him up the steps. That was in Sunrise. They they couldn’t handle his his little uh he calls it his pocket [ __ ] That little thing. Oh, we’re very intimately familiar. The reason I brought up Yans coming on your show was because Yans has been rooting for the Panthers. Played there. Uh still hangs around with a bunch of those guys. Like they love him there. He bang the drum with the Biz idiot shirt on it. Got them going for game four. Um and then they [ __ ] smoked the Leafs, too. Uh but he almost ruined the Panthers like their own guy created that put it into the universe and that’s how oldie came to be at least for the Leafs in this round. So it would have been so poetic that if if Yans would have said that and then Oldie would have pulled off victories in games six and seven and then he would have been off to the Eastern Conference Finals. But it didn’t come to be. And there’s one other thing I wanted to mention and I’m sure you guys talked to Whit or even Yans about it is um the that Mo Ratman. Have you guys been following this story? Yeah. Unreal. So this is a guy who won a Stanley Cup with the Colorado Avalanche and he they were going through contract negotiations and basically they never they never gave him a final offer and said, “Hey, if you don’t sign this, we’re going to trade you.” And I believe that he would have taken eight years times 12 million in Colorado to stay. Well, they were kind of going through the negotiations. Things went a little bit silent and then boom, he gets blindsided, goes to Carolina. He didn’t want to go to Carolina to begin with. Carolina asked to start negotiations even before they made the move. And Ranton and his camp were like, uh-uh, no, we don’t want to go there. That’s not the style of play. Uh, we want to try to work things out with Colorado. They make the trade regardless. He goes to Carolina. He’s there for 3 weeks. Obviously, it’s not going to work out. And they ship him to the same [ __ ] division as Colorado and Dallas. And then he goes on that heater that he’s been on. This is the dominance that he performed over the first two rounds as some of the likes we’ve I think him and Wayne Gretzky are the only ones that had that many points in that period of time in the Stanley Cup playoffs. So, talk about a kick in the dick. But I’m so happy for him having gone through all that [ __ ] for whatever it was 6 weeks, 2 months to now find a landing spot, sign an 8* 12 extension and then no state tax and then be on the heater he’s on. And I would say right now he’s probably the favorite for the Con Smite. And I just wanted to mention him before I logged off because he deserves his flowers and he’s an absolute playoff beast right now. Yeah, he’s been awesome. And yeah, you’re right. The playoffs have been incredible and we love watching you. So, uh, everyone tune in TNT. Uh, Biz, you’re the best. We’ll have you back on. Sorry about the Leafs. Uh, we love you, man. I love you, boys. Keep doing your thing. And I appreciate you guys having me on as always. And, and thank you for not, of course, thank you to Yans for bringing Oldie into our lives. But thank you for putting him on that pedestal that he deserves and snapping the love of what is Oldie around. He’s absolutely the best. Yes, he is the best. Uh, all right. We’ll see you, Biz. Was that the That might have been the biggest free agency signing of like the year. Easily easily. He is He is the absolute best. He has the ability to just talk anybody down. 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All you have to do is get one round in and you’re eligible to win. Spring’s finally here, so come golf with us. Download the Barst Golf Time app today. It’s golf season. Download that Barst Golf Time app today. And now here’s Chris Berman. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is our Schwam, Chris Berman. And you’re probably thinking, “Hey, Schwam, outside of football season, huh? Huh?” Well, we wanted to have Mond because he just signed a uh multi-year contract extension with ESPN and it will run through 2029 when he will become the first uh employee at ESPN to hit the 50-year mark. So, we wanted to congratulate Schwam, have him on, catch up. Uh first of all, congratulations. Incredible. I think you you last time we saw you, you said that we get to plan your 50 uh uh celebration, the party, right? Absolutely. I mean, you guys are I mean uh I thought we’d be really speaking Well, Toronto’s not French, but at any rate, um I appreciate it. I fooled him one last time, fellas. Um I mean, you know, you can only fool them so long, but I, you know, like I said, you read it. I I started at 24. I mean, our grandfathers are my grandfather’s era. Maybe you work 40 or 50 years at a company. Not now and not in our business. And I I pinch myself. It’s pretty cool. And you guys have always been so kind. You had the imitations right out of the gate. So, I appreciate. Yeah, it it really is cool because it is uh something that in this business specifically, you don’t you don’t make it that far. you don’t you don’t work 50 years at a company. You don’t work 50 years in the spotlight and you’ve done it and uh it’s it’s really cool. It’s it’s just a really cool accomplishment. So, have you had I mean I know that this is the the contract extension. Have you have you had thoughts like, “Hey, I got one more in me after this one, too. Just keep keep running it. I want to see you keep going.” I I mean, look, I’ll be 75 when this is over. Let’s let’s hope I have, you know, I’m not worried. Well, let’s just hope 75 is an easy accomplishment and we’ll go from there. But look, um I I never thought of 50. We might have talked about this. I don’t remember at the Super Bowl. I don’t think so. Um I never thought of it. Okay. ESPN was very kind. 45 years they made a deal of it and I was, you know, my god, I’m looking at myself in the mirror. cuz it’s really you 45 years same place and I was asked a couple of times so do you want to make it to 50 and I I never that was never a goal fellas I mean that’s not I mean not in my wildest dreams that I you’d like you hope to be in the business 30 years let alone the same place 50 right so I started thinking about it and I brought it to our our president’s attention not in negotiation or anything but in the fall he goes oh you got you know you got you got to be here through our first Super Bowl in two years. I said, “Well, I hope so. I love to be blah blah blah. I guess that’s up to you, isn’t it, Jimmy?” He goes, “Yeah, I guess it is.” So, I just told you. Um, and I went, “You know what would be cool? Not because it’s me, but you may we may never have a 50-year employee again.” I mean, we probably will. I mean, in engineering or a lot of different departments, but 50 years, you got to start young, right? So, what are the odds of even starting in your 20s and being still hopefully very good at your job? I’m not saying I am, but let’s say an engineer is in his or her 70s. So, yeah, I’m not one more. I haven’t gotten this one done yet. Yeah, let’s let’s reconvene after the party. Then we all may be hurting a little bit. Yeah, I think that would be an alltime record that would probably stand for forever. Yeah. And you put in perspective, we’ve been doing this show for 10 years. Imagine doing this five times as like not even 10 years. Yeah. For us, but imagine doing this five times as much as we’ve done it. It’s a testament to you. It’s a testament to the people that you’ve worked with, but like you have been a mainstay, I think, for a lot of people’s sports childhoods all the way up through adulthoods. And so, we’re glad that we’re going to see you there. It It would be weird if you went somewhere else. Did that thought ever occur to you? Were was it going to be ESPN or nowhere? Or were you thinking like, “Hey, uh maybe I could uh join maybe I joined Baral Sports.” What have I called? Well, you never know. There’s time for everything. But but to to be honest, um no, I because my guy said, you know, if this gets tricky, which it wasn’t. Um are you interested in anything? Absolutely not. I if you my bio of course everything changes but I mean this was written really 30 years ago fellas or 25 years ago and unfortunately a lot of the people in the quote in my bio have passed I said I want to be Walter Payton for example I want to be Tony Gwyn to who to we’ve lost George Brett uh maybe now more modern terms you know a Derek Jeter maybe a um you know someone that started and finished one of my very first job, but really for all intents and purposes, it was um someone that started and finished with the same ball club. I mean, that’s No, I I wouldn’t, you know, I I thought of Franco Harris carrying the ball as a Seahawk. Um I I I thought of Tony Dorschett and Tony and I have laughed about it as Franco, another one we’ve missed, and he and I have laughed about it, too. Tony Dorschett’s final year was a Bronco. Like I know it some of them are fine, but that was like the last year. So if this is my last No, there no I I couldn’t. Yeah, it’s bizarre. No, thank you. Emtt Smith on the Cardinals always whenever that pops up I’m like, whoa, I forgot about that. All right, so so you were definitely staying with ESPN this time. Uh, what was the closest you ever got to maybe leaving in your 50 years? Because I’m sure now that you’ve you’ve stayed, you can laugh about it, but was there a moment and do you remember that moment of like, oh, well, these people, I don’t know. We got to see what happens. Well, I guess once you turn 70, you can give some secrets up, right? Right. Exactly. So, we’re good now. Um, well, one I’ I’ve talked about and and but that was a different time. So the real time was 10 years in started in 79 89 you know ESPN and even cable cable was big by then but ESPN was was different. Okay so basically I’ll try to boil it down NBC Dick Eversoul inquired um would you like to come over? Well, I I mean I you know my contract’s running up in a little bit. They they essentially offered me Times 4. Now, let’s not get carried away. This isn’t just 1989 cable TV. To be honest with you, I wasn’t a 160,000 maybe. Okay. So, this isn’t oh 20 million versus 10 million. I mean, I’ve never gotten to those nor was I thinking. I mean, so this is a different time for our company, which is fair. But actually, there’s another story I will tell you right before this, too, that’s interesting. I hadn’t thought of it, but get back to this. I, you know, and Bob Constus was doing their football show at the time, so that wasn’t open. They said it was going to be soon, but that wasn’t open. And I was already doing it. admittedly just two years at ESPN 87 88 when we got the NFL um and prime time had started we didn’t have baseball yet so it was interesting and I went to our guys Steve Bournestein wasn’t the president he was about to be but he and I really I said Steve I went to Brown it’s times four I can add because I can too I said So we’ve not broken the mold not only on somebody on the air but really anyone let’s say high up in programming or any I know this is a tough decision but and it it inched along for a little bit for a couple months never rough never nasty I mean and I finally said to him I said Steve you’re not a golfer um but you got to get to within a nine iron and I don’t know what that means um and I want to stay. And he got I said, “I will tell you one other thing and maybe I owe I I I’m telling stuff I shouldn’t.” I reached a little farther and I said, “Um the company may be watching this one. Not because I’m so good, but where we’ve gone, where we’ve come, if I go and they’re the top in their area, well, they’re not going to help me out either if something Yeah. He actually no, no, to give Steve and there’s a actually he said, “Thank you for saying that.” And within another week, we had he got within an iron. And in the end, look, the beauty about one of the many beauty about things at ESPN was 10 years like you guys, you built something from the ground up. There’s a lot to be said for that. It wasn’t only me, but we built brick and mortar from the ground up. A lot of us, names you’ll never know. for sports like you guys get to talk golf, hockey, NBA, college. Want to talk darts on this show for 10 minutes? You could. Um, we cover everything. Now, we may not have the Super Bowl or the or the World Series or US Open Golf, but I got to go to all of them. Cover them all. Well, or talk about them on the air every day. So, if you love sports, there was that part. Why would you want to leave? Now, to fast forward where I didn’t think I’d be going in this story, bringing up Steve’s name when it was announced a week ago, I heard from him right away. He’s long been out. George Bowden Armor, I heard from George. Those two guys were president added up maybe 22 of the 45 years. Um, that’s the kind of place we had. And I’m I’m my release at the time, the press release said it was a Brian Adams decision. It was straight from the heart. And um I couldn’t go. I I I couldn’t. And it was the best move I never made. Even though more money, bigger at the time, but was it, you know, and that’s not a knock on NBC, of course. It it just I live I’m from here and I want to live in New York City. I I didn’t necessarily want to do that. Young young kids. Now, one other interesting story that that I never I rarely bring up. Rarely. This is a year before. So, it sounds like I’m looking to leave. I’m not. But I’m I’m like this from 85 to 89. I’m like this. Okay. And the ESPN was like this more importantly. So, I’m a San Francisco Giant fan, as you know, above everything. Even though I grew up Northeast, Willie Mays, seven years old in the World Series. He’s a Giant. I’m a little kid. Giants, that’s my team. Um, the owner of the Giants, then Bob Luri, great San Franciscan. Um, said, I got a call from his I got to know them a little bit. I’m I’m going on here, but this is a story I I rarely tell. I got a call from his office. I’m so and so. I’m Mr. Lur’s assistant. When the Giants are playing the Mets late in May, he’d like to have lunch with you at the 21 Club. Now, Abby, first of all, the 21 Club, my club is McDonald’s. Okay. So, what can you get for 21 bucks in 1988 at McDonald’s? Hell, meals for a week. So, so we meet and there’s nothing, you know. Oh my god. I’m a young guy. Take the train in a couple hours. we meet and he goes, “Well, up till now, most teams um the announcers are hired by the station they work for, but just about a year or two before that teams were hiring the man guy or woman, but let’s just say guy the time was a team employee.” I don’t know when that happened in Chicago with Harry or with Jack Buck. I I don’t know, but it was starting, but only like one because next year we’re going to hire. That’s going to be our hire. We think you’d be a great San Francisco Giants play-by-play guy. Oh, man. Well, I’ve not done it other than Brown baseball. All right. But if you It was one of my goals to do the Giants, right? And I told him, I said, ‘Well, we just got football and I’m kind of that guy. We didn’t have baseball yet again. And I said, but this is and it would have been a salary increase at at that time. Oh god, yes. Not times four, but times two, maybe. Never discussed. Move to the Bay Area, which I love from afar. Young K family, I’d be hired by them. Hm. He goes, “We’ll think about it.” And call me in a day or two. Which I did. And I said, “Mr. Lori, I can’t believe I’m telling you this. It’s been my life dream, but I’m going to have to turn it down.” And here’s what he said. So, what good guy he was is after what you told me yesterday about ESPN, about the NFL, and you’re the host. Brent Musberger, you made the right decision. That’s a guy who offered me the So that’s 88 and 89. Since then, I’m a tourist. I’m stubborn. I ain’t leaving, you know. But your agent loves to hear that. Yeah. Yeah. That’s crazy though. I mean, that’s uh that must have been very difficult to turn down because calling baseball games for favorite team, that would be incredible. Yes. Yeah. and Bay Area. Not even. Hey, I like the team, but do I No, I San Francisco to me. I mean, I know they’ve had after CO more trouble than many other cities, but that’s not the discussion. My favorite city. Yeah. Even I grew up 2500 miles away from. So, but again, I was smart then. He said it and by not leaving Aspen, look, we’re having this discussion today. I mean, I probably would have been ne I would have been neither place in 2025. That’s for damn sure. That’s true. Yeah. You built that place. That place also shaped you. So, it’s uh that’s got to be tough to walk. I think it’s been a great fit. I’m I’m very glad that you’re sticking around. It would be weird to see you if you just popped up on like Fox Sports one day doing like a NFL pregame show. It would look so weird. It would look really really strange. I I saw that the MLB All-Star game in 2029, they have not announced who’s got the TV rights to it. If that’s ESPN, can we please get you doing the home run derby? Well, I guess we have one more year if we’re losing it now. I mean, yeah. Okay, we I’m I’m in if they’ll have me. Okay. Yeah, I’m still signed. I mean, yeah, there you go. We’ll have our 50th party at the home run derby. How about that? That sounds perfect to me. Uh, when I think back of all the years of you on ESPN, I I also think of the Sports Center commercials, the This is Sports Center commercial. Uh, do you have a a list of your favorite ones? Well, you know, those ads were great. I was never in them because by the time they were doing all those, I was while still doing plenty of Sports Center. Charlie Steiner, uh, what is it? Send Welcome to Freedom or Send Me to Freedom with the headband and the Yeah, the Y2K one. Yep. Yep. Yeah, that that that was a pretty good one. There are a ton of them. It’s funny. So, I really was never if I was in one, it was like one of the first ones when they weren’t great yet. The football ones to be honest, other than Bristol University, which was funny. I mean, they were funny. Um, we the ones I was in weren’t of the same caliber as the sports center. I don’t mind. Again, I’m 70. I can say whatever the hell I want. Yeah. Hell yeah, you can. I’m not even scenile and I could say, right? Not yet. I might be for our in in five years. But um, what are your what were your favorites? I mean, you remember probably more of them than I do. I mean, that one was actually I think my favorite. The Y2K scare. I like the don’t walk the PSA that you guys did for NBA players to stop traveling. That was a great one. Uh the crocodile hunter where he sees the Florida gator. Yeah. And wrestles him to the ground. And then my home. I like I like when uh when Oie and I think it was Alexander Simmon lowered through the ceiling like they were in Mission Impossible like Russian spies. I like the uh the LT one where he was wearing his visor trying to sort the mail. Yeah, that one was great. I got to say they were they were sharp. Yeah, they were and and everyone related to it and the players and and those in sports bought into it, but the great ones I wasn’t in. That’s probably why they were great. I wasn’t in them. What? Uh so so it is off season right now. How’s the golf game? Um in and out, you know, you you struggle with Okay, 65 you were still hitting the ball. Not far. Let’s not get carried away, but far enough. And now it’s you really got to move up to not the gold yet, but that you got to you’re playing the hybrid, but now you’re the white because and so you end up hitting the ball off the tea and you say to yourself, honestly, once you get over a macho thing, ah, this is where I used to hit it. It’s okay. I mean, I’m played yesterday was pretty good. played the day before was pretty mediocre. Yeah. So, I’m a usual 14 that an occasion you want and on other occasions you wish you never knew me. How about you guys? You you never get to play, right? Yeah, we play on camera a lot. Uh we’re bad. We’re our Hank, our producer, plays all the time. He plays every single day. Uh so, but he’s also still bad, which is crazy. Yeah. I mean, you have to get to a point where you play all the time if you want to be good at golf. It’s not something you can like parachute in and out of, right? Um, but yeah, I on a good day, I think we’ll probably shoot in the 90s. Uh, on Hank’s good day, he’ll shoot in the 80s. What’s your best round ever? I don’t think I ever broke 80. Maybe 81. That’s a while ago. Here’s the thing. I did look up the chart. Um, if you get to 70 in the United States, average life expectancy, male 85, female 87. I have a shot to to my age. Yes. There you go. Yes. I will tell you this though, I played in the proam at New Orleans. You remember I did once upon a time with the with your guy down there. Um, so I had never met Andrew Novak and Ben Griffin. We played with them day one media day the next week travelers which I’ve done forever right interviewed Scotty Sheffer Byron Nelson that week. We just saw the PGA. It ain’t my game but how’s my game influencing others? Yeah. Not bad, right? Yeah. What What do you think? I think we we threw this out there on uh today’s show, but do you think there’s a chance Scotty could could could creep up into that, hey, we’re talking about him verse Tiger at some point because it does feel, we’re joking, he feels like he’s 40 years old because he just has the look of uh not in a bad way, but he just looks like he’s always looked a lot more put together than everyone else. He’s 28 and he’s won his third in 22 starts in the majors. It feels like he’s going to be, you know, in the next five years. what what like call it you know he wins you know five more in the next five years he’s now at eight and it’s like oh now we’re starting to talk about this well let’s see how many tour wins again he’s he’s done them all really the last few years right he had nine I think seven on tour but nine oh by the way the gold medal um and now here’s two more I mean here’s of the of the current day or the last 20 years it’s really does he approach Phil. Yeah. And where do we put Rory who’s not a gener Tiger’s not a generation ago, but Rory was a little, you know, was after Tiger 2010 and all that. So, by the way, what a perfect. We have Rory. Hey, he’s back. He wins the players. He wins the Masters. He’s playing the the Open, the British Open at Port Rush home game. Um, Oakmont is the hardest course I’ve ever seen. So, you better be really good if you plan to win there. By the way, I don’t know if you guys have ever been, but of all the media day courses, by about the eighth hole, you can’t wait to get back to your MUN. Okay. So, so what an interesting setup. I I Here’s one thing about Scott. So, you don’t want to go to Tiger yet? Cuz gez, do we talk about Tiger to Jack? This was a little early even in Tiger’s run to go Jack. But where are you going? Is he Arie? Right. So, he’s he’s still underappreciated after the PGA. Okay. But here’s an observation that I thought of knowing I was going to talk to you guys today and and and the PGA would come up. He won the travelers last year of one of his seven like I said I think he won nine worldwide and president’s cup and gold etc. But the Travelers, you might remember, you know, signature event there were they they we had the little thing on 18, but that’s not the point. And he got in a playoff with Tom Kim, friend, and uh Batia was also in the last threesome was in it, but by then not really, but close. And I’m looking at these three guys because the Travelers here in in in Hartford, um uh I I do the trophy honors afterwards, so I’m I’m dialed in there. And here’s Scotty at 6′ three. Now we have a playoff with the two of them with Kim and Scotty. Here’s Scotty at 6’ three. Here’s Kim short, which by the way, golfers come in all shapes and sizes. Look at the three of us. It’s proof, right? Um and and Batia, the next stiff wind is going to blow him into the sand. And I’m not knocking him. I mean, my god, I’d like to be that skinny, right? Yeah. But um by the way, you could really have fun with But that’s all, folks. But never mind. Um, it’s actually debut right here. That’s a good one. That’s a great one. Oh, fud. Never mind. Um, we’re bugs buddy. Um, can’t believe I said that. At any rate, and then Kim goes in the bunker. So, Scotty has a a two putt to win with no sweat. Just trundle it down. Kind of like this bogey up by five or by four, but who cares, right? And I’m thinking this is like the old movies where there was a pie fight or let alone a gun duel. And that the knight in white armor is standing unscathed and everyone else goes down one by one. And as I’m watching yesterday or at this time when we’re taping it, oh is Lee, he’s tied with Rahm or you know here Bryson and here’s maybe one of the other two. Then all of a sudden he wins by four anyway. It’s like he’s this stuff’s flying around and he’s there like no bullet ain’t gonna hit me. No pie is going to dirty this nice white suit. And I know that seems crazy but being at the event unlike yesterday when I watched like you TV I was like this guy wow it’s just something about his demeanor. He’s not I mean Tiger was Tiger. I mean we don’t have to go to Jack and Arie. know what they were. Bill flamboyant with the way he played, the shots he invented, etc. Scotty Rory bombs it. Does Scotty hit it just about as long? Probably now. I don’t know that, but maybe not quite as Rory is unbelievable, right? But so Scotty name what he does unbelievably better than anyone else except everything. So you you know what I’m saying? Yeah. He He’s not This is him. Here’s swashbuckling. Here’s He’s so impervious to Oh my god, he’s going to lose this. No, he’s not. It’s unbelievable how he does it, isn’t it? Yeah, it is. It really is. He makes it look easy. One of the one of the craziest stats that I saw this week was that uh Scotty Sheffller, he’s uh right now, I think, how long is this that he’s been ranked number one? 82nd time, 82nd consecutive week being ranked number one in the world. To bring it up to a total of 116 weeks, 116 weeks is what Scotty Sheffller has been ranked number one at. Tiger Woods has 683 weeks. Ranked number one. So he would need to be ranked number one in the world every week for the next what 10 plus years. Yeah. To catch what Tiger did, right? Just unbelievable. It’s crazy. But conversely, how many are in the hundreds? Admittedly, they didn’t have, you know, when when even Nicholas and Palmer, I mean, I don’t know that they had that then. They certainly didn’t when you Byron Nelson, just to pick up a name, or Sam Steo won more than anybody else played. So, but how many are in the hundreds? Not many. Yeah. Yeah. I think Tigers got the number one and number two alltime rankings for the longest streaks being ranked number one. Crazy. Absolutely insane to think about. Yeah. Yeah. Greg Norman might be a name that I don’t know about a 100. I We’d have to look it up. Interesting. Yeah. Uh Norman got up to 96 weeks. Okay. I believe. Yeah. So, yeah, pretty close. And Swam, one thing we love about you is you’re you’re such a football fan. Even though it’s the offseason, I know that you’ve been thinking about football through the draft, through free agency, uh through the schedules coming out for next season. Um what what are you thinking about the most? What are you looking forward to the most in the 2025 football season? That’s a good, you know, here we are. It’s not a I mean that, you know, last year we had all the quarterbacks picked at the top and and you’re wearing a Doug Williams shirt. So obviously your quarterback now you’re Washington is on 8 million times on prime time whereas the year before Yeah. Why are they on? Right. Um what am I looking forward to the most? What I mean what Philly did that was pretty darn strong. I mean that that that was I mean we don’t even need to rehash it. That was from the beginning it was whoa. Okay. This is going to be trouble for the Chiefs. However, all right, you know what? I’ll give you one. It’s It’s kind of obvious, but is this the year Buffalo somehow avoids Kansas City in the playoffs? I don’t know what that means. It means someone would have to lose or somebody I know hope nobody gets hurt, i.e. Josh, I I.e. Patrick, etc. But somehow they don’t meet and then how does that flush out? Mhm. By the way, I only thought of it today and not even though that the Eagles are the champs. God, they play week two right at Kansas City right out of the gates. Yep. Which I don’t know what that’ll decide. Not a lot. Um the Chief, you know, the Bills are the only team again sounds like all I’m about to Buffalo. I’m not. The Bills are the only team to make, you know, to get to four in a row. Admittedly, they didn’t win anything. Chiefs could get to four in a row even though they didn’t win last year and we were they were trying to win three in a row now. Yeah. Billy could get to three out of four. Yeah, as we discussed last year, that’s a short list. Um, getting to three out of four. So, but then where who are the Washingtons this year? I don’t know. What do you guys think? Who are I? It’s hard in May to say, well, I’m just telling you Atlanta with Penn, for example. I’m not saying that’s a team. Like what what are the teams that are are the Rams much better? I mean, they gave every time in the playoffs they’re a tough out. Are they better? I’m talking about a team, of course, Washington was not on the playoff radar. What’s that team? Because we know like five or six of them don’t go back to the playoffs. So, who’s that? I’ve got a uh I’ve got an answer. It’s kind of a cheap answer, but the 49ers Yeah, they might get healthy. If they stay healthy this year, I I wouldn’t bet against them making the playoffs. Yeah, I got an answer that’s a little I’m still working on it. I think the Giants are going to be better than people think. And I don’t know what’s going to happen with Jackson Dart, but like Brian Dable, good quarterback coach. If you can get just enough, I think that defense is going to be elite. Their their defensive line has just monsters on it. So, I think they might be one of those teams where, you know, maybe they’re not playoffs, but they’re, you know, go jump up to seven, eight, nine wins, and it’s like, oh, look, they’re they’re not. You look at the schedule this time of year and you’re like, all right, that’s a win, that’s a win. I don’t think the Giants are going to be a that’s a win team. Well, I think you’re right. Um, of course, now we think Dallas healthy quarterback along with Philly and Washington, the two like that’s a tough climb with those six games. Absolutely. and they go two and four, that would be a win for for what you just said. Who else, you know, is there room to move? Well, well, we know the NFC is is tougher and and and overall, right, because obviously the the Central I still call it the the Norris division, you know, but the Bears lost a lot of games that they’re going to be better, but the other three teams Minnesota Detroit’s going to be them. Um, Green Bay is going to be good. Um, very good again. So, hard to move. So, will the Bears have a much better record again? They got to play those teams. The West is I agree with San Francisco. They either missed the playoffs or they get to at least the championship game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They’re going to be good. The Rams are going to be good. Don’t overlook Seattle, Arizona, I don’t know. But let’s just say two and a half teams in that division. South. Well, that’s the opening, right? Like could but it won’t be it’s a little early for the Panther. You you know what I’m saying? So So So in the AFC where Miami fell and the Jets fell and will they be back or back the Jets, will Miami be or or could the Patriots move like the Giants to your point? seven and 10, eight, nine. Um, we still don’t know who Pittsburgh’s quarterback is uh in that division. We we think the Bengals will be won’t start out one and four or whatever the hell they always do. Uh, the Browns I mean I sad. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah. He’s a good coach. He got a coach with one hand tied behind his back, Kevin. Very good coach. Yeah. Um, you know, we know Baltimore, you know, we haven’t brought them up as usual, right? I actually looked at knowing I was doing this show and again analyzed the schedules. I kind of just looked at the upper echelon off of last year. I looked at Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore just real quick like a half hour ago. just it seems like Baltimore’s schedule is they play the the good teams on the road and the others have more of the good teams at home. Again, that doesn’t ensure anything. Um, but they’re going to be formidable. At what point does is this a year for Lamar? But again, it all depends on the Chiefs. But somehow the Chiefs and the Bills will miss each other in the playoffs. What does that mean? I like that. I I like that as as a Bills fan, you’re you’re thinking, “Okay, well, we’ve tried to take the bad man out. It hasn’t worked for us. Maybe somebody else just does it for us. Maybe Lamar gets maybe Lamar elevates his game, becomes a playoff quarterback, and then we don’t have to worry about Patrick Mahomes. That that would be a better formula.” Could be. Or something else. Or the Bengals just beat the Chiefs, which they have, right? So I betting against the Chiefs would be foolish, too. I’m not claim the Bills will get there because they won’t play the Chief. That’s why we talk about it in May. Yeah, even talking about it got has me Yeah, even talking about it has has me juiced up just football in May. All right, I I Schwam, I got one last question for you and again, congratulations. We love you and and it’s awesome and we’re so pumped for you uh to be able to still get to watch you for uh another five years here. Uh, my last question, rowback question. Rh o bac.com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase. QZips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Robback.com, promo code take. My last question is this. In the off season, do you ever catch yourself, maybe it’s in the shower, maybe it’s in the car, just throwing a quick whoop, just to make sure you still got it because you’re like, ah, I don’t know. I haven’t done it in a few months. Do I still have it? just to do you just test to make sure that it’s still there? That’s a better question than you think. Um, and I’ll tell you why. Because I do go to Hawaii after the Super Bowl. I live there part-time. I mean, you know, I get go about eight week whatever. And I don’t do the draft. The first time I even put a tie on after I from the Super Bowls, how do you tie this? So, um, week one now I do the the Hall of Fame at Canton. So, that’s a different deal. But other than showing up at the ESPs, I kind of start at Canton the way it is now and the way it’s been the last eight, nine years primarily. I mean, ESPN needs me for something. I’m here some big football matter. Can you come in in two hours? Yes, I’ll be in, you know, but week one. This is why it’s this really intelligent question. Intelligent question. Yeah. Well, heaven I know I’m really stepping out now, right? But but week one, that’s when I know how to do it. We know how to drive a car. You know, it’s not all of a sudden a stick ship that you rented in Europe and it’s like find them, grind them. Um, week one, you go in, it’s like, do I did I bring my little earpiece? Did Did I remember to bring my three or four tie? Because I always am a game time decision, by the way. I always bring three or four and decide about 20 minutes before we go on. Okay, that’s the one tonight. Um, gota you got to have a game time decision. Yeah, I have little butterflies. Not nervous, but it’s not so much texting the whoop. Although I might drink grapefruit juice week one, but better for the throat than orange juice in the morning. Okay. And a little better. Um, little citric acid action. So, I don’t practice the whoop in the shower, in the car. I blast music. Um, to quote, I remember Joe Tory telling me this and it’s kind of the answer. And at that point when he was managing, but he told me how many opening days it was. I had them opening day a few times, you know. And I went, Joe, it’s opening, you know, opening day. you’ve been as a player and as a manager, whatever the number was, 35, I mean, whatever it was, Boomer, I don’t care who you are, if you don’t have a couple of butterflies in your stomach on opening day, there’s something wrong with you. And I never forgot that. It’s not, can I speak? It’s not, can I tie a tie? It’s not He could go all the way. I’ll probably come up with it, but it’s week one. Mhm. You ain’t as good as you thought you were because you haven’t been doing it lately. Yeah, you got do this every day or two. I used to be on the air every day. Didn’t make me good, but it made me I just did this yesterday. I mean, I What’s the problem, right? Um well, the problem is you haven’t done it for six months, so there are some days that Okay, week one, let’s give them everything we got in the garage. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe you haven’t checked some of the toys out lately, right? Yeah. Probably not. We might give you a patia. That’s all, folks. But we not give you 12 of them, right? But I, you know, and you’ll see when if and when you ever get to the point where you’re still a regular, but for whatever reason, I know you can’t imagine not doing this every day and neither can your your fans. But butterflies opening day, Joe Tory, who would know better than him, right? It’s a privilege. It’s a privilege to feel those butterflies. I got one last one for you, Boom, because uh every year we have, you know, when we do our recaps of the games as a tribute to you, we talk about Jameus Winston and when we bring up Jameus Winston’s name, we put him in the Eagles song. We put him in Take It Easy, Standing on the Corner, Jameus Winston, Kyahoga is what it was last year on the Browns. Now he’s on the Giants. So, we had a couple ideas. We want to get your feedback or maybe you’ve got something else. We were thinking J standing on the corner, Jameus Winston down in Soho or Standing on the Corner, Jameus Winston and Hoboken. Hoboken. Well, there’s a there’s a there’s a thought. Uh, Hoboken. Soho. I go to Warren Zeon, which is before your time really. Oh, yeah. Werewolves of London. So, that it’s a different Soho. It’s a London Soho. So, that put me off the track for a minute. Um, well, either works because you want him to represent New York and I, it’s funny, Jamus, I know he you love him on your show. I ran into him New Orleans in dinner and and eating the next table and we had a couple of chuckles and I’ve told you we we love him and I know you you got to know him. He’s so enjoyable, but not a butt. He’s one of the most exciting players in the league. And here’s why. I think we’ve talked about it maybe off the air. Bill Walsh once described Steve Deberg not a bad quarterback as and I and I taking this to Jamus giving Bill Walsh credit he keeps both teams in the game. Yeah. I mean that’s as a he’s mustsee. Mhm. I mean I don’t know the Giants I don’t know what they’re I mean the rookie and two vets like who knows how that plays out right? Is that a trade? I don’t know. Yeah, Dave might Nobody gets hurt August 10th. You know what I mean? Yeah. I I think he would probably be one of the first calls if you have a starter that goes down. At least I hope he would. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn’t you think they I mean, they got to go Russell. I mean, what I mean, how do we think the Giants start the year at quarterback? Not the rookie yet. I think he’s probably going to go Russell Wilson. I would think so. But if it’s a if it’s a truly open competition. It could be Jamus. Yeah. Should be Jamus. Well, unless Sierra thinks the national anthem. That’s true. That’s true. That’s true. So, what I’m hearing from you is is standing on a corner of Jameus Winston and Hoboken. Such a fine sight to see. I like that. You like that? Yeah. Hoboken, you’re going I think so. Unless you you know what? If you think of one, you text us. Standing on the corn that Hoboken making an eagle song is a pretty good lefthand turn. The flatbed Ford that has a flat. Yeah. Yeah. Which reminds me of again the poor the fumble by Joe Pasaric. Herm Edwards you know the miracle in the Melands. Not far from Hoboken. Instead of Broadway Joe poor poor Joe Pasaric they called him Patterson plank Joe you know like Yeah. Yeah. But Hoboken, there’s a ring to it. Yeah, it’d be the only one including that in a song. Okay, I like it. All right, we’ll continue be considered. Yeah. Yeah, we’ll continue we’ll continue to consider. Yeah, we we we’ll we’ll throw any uh other ideas we have off you. Um Schwam, you’re the best though. We love you and thank you for coming on and congrats again. Very welld deserved. Uh and we can’t wait for the for the 50th party. We’re going to be there no matter what. Well, and maybe we’ll join you in the middle of the year or something. We We know we got the end of the year. Whatever you want. Yeah. I can’t wait to hear what you come up with in your Monday morning. I tell you, if it’s great, it’s on TV and I give full credit. You know, that’s true. Oh. All right. Well, thanks so much, Schwan. We’ll talk to you later. All right, guys. Have have a great spring and summer. Work on the golf when you can sneak it in. Yes. All right. Sounds good. Thanks, Boom. Okay. Hey, before we get to FAQ, Stella Blue, the weather’s heating up, so stay cool with Stella Blue. Cold brew. Whether you love a bold, dark roast, indulgent flavors, or our newest variety, Miz Peaches, 100% Colombian, we’ve got a cold brew for everyone. Better, fresher cold brew at home in just three easy steps. Steep, refrigerate, enjoy. And the best part, every purchase helps homeless pets find their forever homes. 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Hank, how are you doing now that we’re a few days removed? I’m fine. It, you know, it gets easier as time passes, but once the East finals, like the conference finals start, it’ll probably be sad watching the games. You don’t sound fine. No, I’m fine. You’re on to golf. You’re on to golf. We talk I’m always like I’ve never been off of golf, right? But you’re on to golf. But you’re on to golf. Less distractions. Sure. But yeah, I mean I will be watching the same amount of ball and playing the same amount of golf. Wait, did you say there’s less distractions from your distraction so you can focus on your distraction? Well, that’s the thing. As I said it, I realized it’s really not true. Like I will I will I will watch every game and I will play the same amount of golf. in that sense. But but maybe there’s a maybe there’s a Eastern Conference final game that starts at 7:00 p.m. and you’re like, “Man, I’m having the round of my life now. You don’t have to go home and be home at 7:00 p.m. Yeah. To watch the first half from the clubhouse.” Yeah. Whatever. Love that for you. Whatever. No, you don’t. Uh I do love that you get love to golf. Thank you. I love you for loving that. I love to golf. Wow. Love fest. I love love love. We talked about that. Uh, what is your I’ve reached a summit moment in your life? Something you are hoping to achieve or have already achieved. Love you all and thank you. Ooh, I mean I don’t want to say something that I’ve already done because that implies that it’s all downhill from here, but it probably is like I’m 40. I’m a man. Yeah. I mean, I had no right being on the duck boat. I didn’t deserve it. I didn’t like it wasn’t like an achievement that I worked hard and and and reached that goal. But it was that that was it. Don’t tell yourself. It will be all downhill from there. And that’s all right. I think Barcel getting purchased was definitely there. Buying a house. I was late to buying a house, but bought a house. Getting a house is cool. That was very cool. Um, playing Freeird. Playing the Freeird solo. That’s very something that I’ve worked for. I mean, on stage with my brother, it was a pretty cool moment. Yeah. Um, going to the sphere. Kind of reached that summit big time. Stanley Cup winning night in Vegas with the cup is that’s a tough one to beat. Yeah. Yeah. Been anywhere near the Stanley Cup is pretty [ __ ] sweet. Yeah. Has Do you think anyone’s ever [ __ ] the Cup? The Cup has watched someone [ __ ] I don’t know if anyone’s [ __ ] I’d say like hundreds of people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Max, what’s your summit? Max turning 30 this weekend. Yep. So huge. Partying with the Eagles after the Super Bowl. Yeah. The Mount Joy concert was was a big like what what am I doing here? That was pretty fun. Yeah, they have a new album coming out this weekend. My summit was John Summit when he was on pardon my I guess I’m just a bigger John Summit fan than you, Max. Facts. Big Cat Love Williams fan. PF Caps Shank. If we see an AW in the wild, what’s our calling card? What do we say to acknowledge the other? We don’t say that anymore. We don’t say it anymore. Just a what’s up. Also, I want to compliment the the AWLs out there because there were a lot of them at the Caps game. All very well behaved. I was around my mom. Not one person said the thing that we don’t say anymore. And I appreciate that. Yeah, they’ve done a really good job of like whether it be Yeah. long time ago. But like the Max pervert stuff, we were able to stop that. Like, good job. You could, you know what? You could say, “Do you think memes will ever get it?” That’s a good one. And then the other guy says, “No, no chance. No way will he ever get it.” That’s a good one. Yeah, that’s an inside, you know, baseball like, “Oh, memes won’t get it.” Or just say, “Hey, what’s up, pug?” Yeah. A bunch of my friends are starting to listen and to really enjoy PMT, but they can’t understand the booth. And we, my AWL friends, try to explain to them that it used to just be Hank, but then they ask what Hank does in golf, which is funny to try and explain. They get Max and memes, but they don’t understand Shane Pug. They think they are the same person. Very different people. Uh, Pug does the YouTube edits. Shane creates incredible A’s in the graphic department. No, Shane does our graphics. Pug does our YouTube. Memes and Max obviously are in here while we’re recording. Jack Wiper is our our new guy. He harasses us for ads. Uh, and Hank does a lot. I don’t I don’t want I don’t want people to be sullying Hank here. I don’t know where they get the idea that all Hank does is golf ball from. I really don’t. I know. It’s crazy. It’s like a narrative that’s run away. It’s crazy. Yeah. Hank is We’re playing Friday, right? Hank’s my most trusted guy. He’s 10 11 10. He’s got uh Hank’s an ideas guy. He’s He’s got the pulse of the nation. Just working behind the scenes. It’s one of those things you don’t want to have it defined cuz then Right. because then someone might be like, “Hey, you’re not doing much. Move in silence. Listen, I take care of business. But yes, there was a long time where Hank was the was the sole proprietor of the booth. He was doing it all. I miss it sometimes. No, you don’t. So then go do it do it for Max and memes one day. I did. I I edited the Super Bowl a couple years ago. Our sound guy [ __ ] me. That’s true. Uh a couple years ago. I would I mean the first time the Eagles were not the first time, but Chiefs the first Chiefs Eagles Super Bowl. Why don’t you do Yeah. Why don’t you Why don’t you do it just one random time just be like, “Hey, you know what? I got it tonight, boys. Let’s get out of here.” I would I would actually like to because I don’t ask him. I have to ask a million questions. Give him You’ve learned the ability to do it or you’ve lost the ability to do it. No, but there’s just more back end and and I don’t know. I I be Yeah, if I if I had to if the booth disappeared, I I could make it work. I’d like to give you the keys to the socials for like three days. Hank weekend. Nice Monday, Tuesday. I’m a Hank Hank early week. Hank Monday. No, but it is crazy because like just a Twitter. The beginning of the podcast, we didn’t have YouTube. Uh we didn’t have video for a lot of our interviews. Now we’ve gotten uh a full team and the guys are awesome. They’re they’re uh they like keep it running. Like when we leave on a Sunday night after a football Sunday, we leave at like midnight or 1:00. They’re here till 5 in the morning. So, shout out those guys. Hey guys, was wondering since you are the number one sports podcast and have so many people listen, do you ever think about the amount of famous people/athletes that listen to the show and their reactions to the things you say? I feel like the idea of a pro alete laughing along while listening to you guys troll each other or hear you guys talk [ __ ] about one of their teammates has got to be pretty surreal. Yes, the teammate part I sometimes think about like when we’re really when we’re getting deep into it and we’re laying into somebody and they’re like laughing at it and they have to stop themselves because they’re like, “Oh [ __ ] that’s actually my good friend and teammate they’re making fun of.” Yeah. I I just have more of like uh when someone says they listen like when we had Pablo Tori on and he’s like smiley smiley. Yeah. I’m just like why? Like what what are you doing? I think with Pablo it’s important to hear how bad podcasts can be so he knows what to avoid. But I still get a little like uh it still gets me a little excited. Even retired guys, even when like our our guy Yans will text me being like, “Oh, that was amazing.” I’m like, “Oh, [ __ ] yes. I made Yens’s laugh. That’s cool. That’s [ __ ] awesome.” And I definitely think there’s a a phen not phenomenon, but just like there’s a lot of guys that are now professional athletes that, you know, when they’re just high school or college, like grinding, it’s not weird for them to listen to podcasts. It’s just weird that now they’re as famous as they are. But it is awesome. Like I it never loses It never loses the awesomeness factor where if someone says they listen I’m just like that’s [ __ ] awesome but also why you got to have better things to do. Yeah. No, I’m in I I have always been in I think it works about denial about the listeners. Yeah. You can’t think about it. You can’t think about the amount of people listen because it will [ __ ] you up bad. Yeah. As far as I’m concerned it’s just us. Yeah. And then somehow everybody else finds out. Yeah. It it definitely will mess with your head because it’s like I don’t think it would mess with my head if we were if I were smarter. Uh but it messes with my head because like oh this many people heard me say something really stupid. Ah that sucks. That’s the part I think it would always mess with your head though. No, but if you’re like if you think about if you’re smart and the amount of I get worried with I I was sarcastic like the amount of sarcasm and just like laying it on thick with people like they might a lot of and I know a lot of fans like they’ll get seriously upset about it. I’m like is there like a athlete that’s like Yeah. Yeah. What a [ __ ] idiot. Mhm. No, I mean everyone thinks we’re idiots, but that’s the beauty of it cuz we are. Yeah. And we don’t we don’t run from it. No, we’re we Marines of idiots. We’re the first responders of idiots. If there’s a problem, we’ll be there saying dumb [ __ ] Do you guys ever get FOMO when you don’t immediately record? Max talked about it a little bit with Hanky Celtics losing bang bang and not recording after any games, but other stuff like LeBron Steph or Big Trey News. Is there anything you really wish you recorded right after? Yes. Yeah. I mean, we changed up how we do Fourth of July week because of the NBA trade deadline. Yeah, but there’s definitely free not free agency. When when there’s uh when something big happens on like a a Monday afternoon, I’m like, “Shit, we got to wait, you know, or something happens on like a Friday night, that does always give me a little FOMO that we’re not we’re not recording right then.” Well, it’s also because stuff is going to happen over the weekend, so by the time Monday morning comes around. Yeah. We can’t react to the same news on Friday like we would if it if it had just broken. Yeah. Big time. That’s it. Oh, great job, Hank. Thanks. Just We love love. We love each other. Yeah. Well, being around each other so much. Who would be your plus one to Pelichek’s wedding? If you can only choose one, I don’t know. Might have to go back. Tiff. Oh, come with me. Tiff. What a power couple. The tootsies. Show the tootsies. Tiff. Uh, should we Jerry’s here? No. Jerry Bing Bong and Hank randomly. Just the bing bong button. Uh, okay. Good show, boys. Great show. Big guest on Friday. Get excited uh before the long weekend. Let’s do number three. That was like a three-way tie. Oh, man. I think you guys have to do uh odds or evens for this. Just say it again. No, no, no. Memes, Max, and Hank. All you guys, one, two, three, shoot. Throw out a one or a two. I’ll throw it high. I’ll take odds. Three. No. No. What? No. Throw out a one or a two over your head. All right, Max. Pick one or two. No. Shut up, Me. And then Hank, you pick one. You know what? I’ll pick three. No, it’s not. It’s You throw out a one or a two. Yeah. So, that one of them is going to pick one. One of them’s going to pick two. I’ll pick three. All right. That counts his odds. Three, two, one, shoot. 331. All right. So, Max gets three. Memes got you. Oh, memes. You got got by Hank getting it back. Okay. I’ll take uh what was your second number you would pick? I don’t know. I’m going to punch his computer for three. Okay. Um Dude, things are good right now. I’m gonna go 95. I’m going to go 57. Six 999 44 55 21 Come on. Three. Come on. 53. Damn. What was yours? Wiper. 55. Ah. 55. Damn. He’s the next person that needs to get it. He’s going to get it before memes. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, memes is just sad. It’s just sad at this point. I guessed it for you. Then I got it again on my own. It’s true. Right in your face. Love and Six. Love you guys.