TGL playoffs, Arnold Palmer Invitational preview, In/Out/Alternate for PR Open | The Shotgun Start

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Brendan I’m doing all right you know I uh I was really down yesterday Real down down and out my team got got eliminated from the tgl playoffs and uh you know watching watching jup stinks go out there and embarrass themselves another time made me feel a little bit better today your team was embarrassing downright embarrassing tonight I mean it’s just completely competitive aside from that little nip and Tuck match with the frogs where they wanted over completely uncompetitive it’s a total tear down complete rebuild you know I I Kevin kizner tweeted about how much fun he had he’s a oneand done no way he’s done he’s done it’s just a tear down we were so bad I mean Tiger Tiger I I feel bad for Tiger um you know he’s taking timeouts you know just just hither and ywn he’s got Kim just trying to be thirsty throwing Flags when you know throwing hammers with like worst possible Reckless use of the hammer Tom Kim’s just throwing it after Nick Dunlap essentially almost missed the screen he hit it so far off the planet of course they don’t accept it they’ve only got three hammers to use why is he throwing it there it’s just it’s a mess it’s a complete tear down the frogs on the other hand I mean I guess you run it back Roy says he had fun and wants to play with these guys again again feels like you’re could be committ stuck in the middle of nowhere yeah can’t run back stuck you don’t want to get stuck in the middle you can’t win zero matches and run it back I’m sorry there needs to be some complimentary pieces on the team I this is what we need a guy we need a guy willing to take a charge a guy willing to lay down a bunt you know get hit by a pitch we need we need the guy the fourth Winger in hockey that comes off or the fourth line Winger that comes out and just ready to drop the gloves ready to fight we need some gel guys we need some glue guys we got we got to get out of we got too many bad Putters we’ve got we’ve got four four extremely similar players just doesn’t work Keegan’s gotta go yeah but he’s the only one with the real connection to Boston it kind of doesn’t make sense that’s fine we can put him out put him out on waivers nobody’s picking him up so jup links lost 12 to one to La then they beat the ball frauds in overtime then they lost 10 to three so 121 103 they lost 63 to Bay which was never even close just got some garbage time points in that one and then lost 91 tonight to ATL so 91 103 and a 121 in there in their matches just a this non-competitive doormat a doormat now at least we got that OT dub over the frauds so we got jup stinks and ball fronts I had one conspiracy theorist suggest to me today that just to show that the league is not rigged it’s not fixed they had the two like I don’t know what you’d call them two PR primary owners I don’t know if they’re majority owners but Tiger and Rory have more Stak front men yes um had them take take a dive in the first season just to show this is real competition it’s Equitable nothing’s fixed this isn’t WWE and they so they had the two stars just take a dive get completely uh you know essentially whitewashed out of the playoffs uh it’s clear you know I mean screen golf who knows really who’s good who’s bad but we do know who are the two worst and they clearly separated themselves in a major way can’t say we don’t know about that we don’t the power rankings haven’t come out yet to be on your edge of your seat till the power dat driven the data driven Power Rankings correct I got I have a question along these lines yeah um and it really I think this is the question of of the whole league okay um do you feel like great shots feel like great shots in the simulator not really I mean there’s some that are like like uh lawn shots on par fives that feel like all right that was a pretty sweet shot couple on these par 3es where they stick them like last night with Keegan and uh was a Ricky but you kind of don’t know right there’s really no sense of what’s a great shot I think that’s the issue although chips chips we got a little bit of that right so I was going to say I think the shots that I’ve been most impressed with have been the chips yeah and they’re like actual golf shots so I don’t know do you think they need a bigger screen if five dinosaurs could fit in the screen do you think it would be more realistic or is this just the biggest hurdle that like actually te to Green is the least interesting part of the whole game uh would the product be better if they just chipped around a green potentially I I think we just still need to get used to it maybe but yeah I I um I mean I guess that’s the difference between real Golf and Screen golf right I mean think you’re not gonna fix that this is the philosophical question that I I was batting around today in my head is that like when they hit these shots like I’m just kind of like oh it went into the screen and they just flying towards the hole and then it just stops right and it stops close but I don’t feel the way I feel when I watch a great shot in a tournament and I think that’s that’s like maybe maybe the biggest issue these uh these last two haven’t been good not not great I would say um be on tonight W what’s the connection she seems to be golf Tig oh really yeah on Jupiter Island yeah she’s been a long time Tiger neighbor oh okay so she’s a lynx fan so she went and watched them just get massacred right in front of her this kid totally body bag God bless her for putting up with Marty not once but twice when Marty came back I was like oh no I was like this and I thought I thought she she handled it so well with the song the song was legit good we started uh week one on this and whatever was January 6th or something January whatever seventh eth whatever it was um and I didn’t think we’d come around to a point in the season where I wish DJ khed was back but when Roger Clemens was singing Toby Keith I was ready for I wanted DJ khed back I wanted that off my screen I would have done anything to get colid back at that point what was that I don’t believe that I you cannot you cannot in good faith say that you want khed back you remember do you remember what he did to the park yes he desecrated that the match essentially um I don’t know I mean in a way and I I look I think that yeah the screen golf is it’s going to be screen Golf and the chipping is the real Golf and that’s why one seems to have some more of evoke something out of you than the other thing now can we get to a point two years from now where the screenshots start to have a little bit more resonance maybe I’m kind of like it kind of makes the holes like less less um less effective like that the holes just don’t seem to matter with to me like there’s no real resonance with the holes because of what you’re talking about there on the every single one of them needs to be thrown in the garbage um yeah and there was a part of me tonight that just felt like you know tiger I I know this is his thing but you know the playoffs were settled it’s a meaningless screen golf match on a Tuesday of Bay Hill week he’s in this like Sunday red he’s not Nike you got Tom Sim there in Nike it just felt like I don’t know a little almost not not sad is the word but like what are we doing here a little bit like why does he want to be doing this on when he doesn’t even now they’re all goofing around you got Tom Sim doing the premature celebration and he’s thirsty carrying the bag around you know they they’re the gig they won the they won the uh the The Strokes gain Giggles J blanks did I mean they’re real they’re they’re yucking it up nonstop but um I don’t know part of it just felt a little he was just tiger was kind of like he was really slow to play he’s like how far do I have to hit it how what’s to carry what’s to lay up wait no call timeout one time homo was like dude you gotta go he’s like standing over the bag like we gotta go and uh yeah it just you know I think they’ve made real inroads and that like the hammer is a thing it means something it’s a term it’s a u it’s it’s I don’t know phenomenon is too strong the word but the hammer has its own little I don’t know cult following significance in the sport um but I think we’re you know we’re about ready for it to go away for a little bit right you know we’ve done a lot of tgl and it’s it’s done its part and uh yeah we’ll do the playoff let’s let’s get to the real golf for a while we’ll bring Power Rankings back to the end we’ve got a jam-packed episode we need to talk about about Arnold Palmer we need to talk about Big J we got to talk about spitball and and most importantly we have an electric inout alternate an electric I I thought inout alternate might have been dead at the end of last year I was like I don’t know if this can go on I faith has been restored in the PGA Tour and uh and shitty opposite Fields opposite event additional event I believe is what it’s called let’s go to our uh let’s go to our schedule for the week then I I I need to talk to you about the the burgeoning you know New York Boston rivalry with New York trying to bodybag Rory with tweets we’ll get it we’ll get it we’ll get it get toer talking [ __ ] all right schedule for the week what happens when two stored franchises come but I just want to remind New York fans Boston Common we’ve never missed the playoffs two years in a row that’s true so that’s true bet your ass will be back at back next year I think J they just need an overhaul who knows we’ll see I think J I think jup should honestly I think they should move small you can’t you can’t succeed in a small market like Jupiter they have no media essentially to hold their feet to the fire you’re not gonna have a columnist who was the old Palm Beach Post golf J marotti is not coming right in columns about G blanks down over the Palm Beach post or Bob Bob Ryan it’s not happening so they can just kind of Coast under the radar um this week schedule for the week we have the Arnold Palmer Invitational presented by MasterCard is the full title March 6 through 9th at Arnold Palmer’s Bay Hill Club and Lodge uh the purse is $20 million4 million to the winner just astronomical purse defending Champion is Scotty sheffler notables are ludvig oberg Patrick Klay did not show up today for the uh Drive match wam Clark did you see did you hear Matt Barry drive by Patrick kly no what did he I didn’t hear it what’ he say you know how they Billy facetimed JT oh he did while he’s going to commercial he was like well we know that if they if he tried to FaceTime Patrick he wouldn’t have answered that’s pretty funny pretty funny no he was like there’s no way he would have answered did you lose me yeah I did lose you trouble wires are struggling here wires are all right we’re back Arnold Palmer so Matt Barry I I could get down with that a little pop little pop there from Matt Barry uh all right so $20 million notables are can’t Le Windam Clark Jason day Victor havin Hideki Rory Xander Scotty sheffler and JT um I think the best field of the year so far Xander back absolutely he missed the last couple um I you know beill stinks as like a like Golf Course like we would want to play I’ve played it um a couple times I think you got some free shoes I got plenty of stuff I got free shoes my initials on them kind of extremely douchy um it’s it’s not something we’d want to play I’ll tell you though like I mean the winners last whatever Sheffer twice Bryson TL Hatton Rory you had the kitty cat snuck in there Frankie Molinari when he was you know Frankie doing his thing it’s like it’s a it’s a real Pro Golf test I don’t know what I I I I know the part 3es are all the same length as you are are prone to to uh used about yeah but like you do have to hit a lot of I think you’ve said this you do have to hit some mid irons right it’s lawn you’re the greens they let get firm right it can get to that Bermuda that almost is like super racy super slick um the rough is the rough like it’s a real penalty right like there’s a there’s a reward for hitting it in the Fairway there’s a penalty for hitting it in the rough and then there’s a further penalty for you know hitting it off the planet there’s sometimes it’ll be from houses and there’s water hazards I I think it’s become kind of like a a a really great professional golf test like it the the best players often play like separate here and you’ve got a winning score that has you know often around like 10 under is Right sometimes even lower and I think my one concern would be you know we get farther and farther away from the loss of Arnold Palmer who’s not around and his sort of the impr primator and his his uh you know presence being able to Alpha the tour and TJ tour setup does the tour start to further put his thumb on the scale I know when it got really hard there were like some comments like we can’t have this the week before the players championship guys are going to go limping into the our gold standard but I kind of I kind to come to love it as as a proper uh PGA Tour test and and I don’t know personally I’ve enjoyed going to it a few times and it’s a great field I think that the most important thing for the PGA Tour to have throughout its schedule is is variety and is Bay Hill my favorite test on tour no but is it unique yes it’s very unique especially in the realm of the way the schedule works right now it is so quantifiably different than the west coast different grasses different type of setup um and it’s also just a unique test in the sense that we don’t get to see guys hit mid irons to Long irons very much um in the world of golf we get to see him at the majors and I think the reason that that like you Illustrated the best players it’s like one of the rare places on tour where guys have to hit mid and long irons and the best players in the world are the best at hitting mid and long irons and it’s just not driver wedge um now there are driver wedge holes out there but the par 3s are all extremely long and then the par fives all present opportunities to get those long irons in your hands again so you’re conceivably GNA see guys hit six iron plus seven iron Plus on seven or eight holes out there which for the PG tour is extraordinarily rare like ex extremely rare and if you hit those if you hit those irons well you’re going to play well out here so I think that’s the neat thing I think like you know is it like a perfect comp for Augusta National No but Augusta National is long it makes you hit long irons a lot and I think that’s why you see those great iron players play well here um just in general and what I like about it I don’t like I don’t like beill I do not like I’m not a fan of the way it’s presented the way but what I love about it is it’s Unique it has an identity and I think that’s really good for the PGA Tour it’s kind of like I always use this example but it’s a distinct track if you use a racing track and we get to see certain styles of players play well at different tracks and this is this is this is a distinct one and and it is like a rare place where they’ve let it really get firm or it’s just by natural occurrence B firm on if you know it’s supposed to be bad on Wednesday it looks like with the big some thunderstorms but allegedly very very firm today right now yeah I I wind was whipping today it’s supposed to whip on Thursday not you know it’s supposed to blow on Thursday maybe a little bit on Sunday you know it’s it’s weird you can kind of get some of these some of these in recent years have been like freezing or it’s like crazy windy I don’t know it’s just it’s had a nice little identity here um I don’t know that it’s great it’s that it’s jammed up against the PLAYERS Championship but uh I’ve enjoyed it I think it’s I think it’s a good event and now you know it’s a smaller deal it’s 72 72 folks um and $20 million but but hey I don’t know does that say something more about Pro Golf as opposed to like that you know this is a course that would stink but it’s become one of the real great ones at uh identifying or or or testing professionals does that say more about where Pro Golf is than anything that that you need a Bay Hill or a a maybe a Tory South mirfield those those kind of places I I think so I think it does a better job than Tory South because there is water um yeah I think when like Tory South you can just hit away from any trouble and beine like the way these guys hit it out of the rough and everything B Hill like I I think water it does say you know the quad the places that you are dying to play rarely have a ton of water like are mostly if you look at like the best golf course in the world it’s hard to lose a lot of golf balls at them like I think that’s like a kind of like a general like very basic theme of of the best golf course in the world um Bay Hill you could lose a lot of golf balls and I think for pro golf that’s a really good thing because like water is a is a is like a very very um scary like it scares Pros into getting into trouble right it scares them away from it more so than rough or bunkers there is uh you know 15th tall so bad it’s good one of my favorites over the hedges literally like basically if it’s firm there’s nowhere to land it you’re either going out of bounds right or you’re just hitting into the rough and then like you’re hitting these longer irons not necessarily there to firm greens it’s just it can be kind of an amusing circus or or House of Horrors anyways but I when you’re talking about the uh the best uh holes out there I mean like this tournament delivered with Bryson Bryson and Westy duking it out right Bryson H it over the water on six I mean that was incredible yes do you think everybody’s G to try this year I’m trying to think who’s in the field unfortunately Chef minwoo probably Dr chinsky is not in it jammed a couple chapinski into the broadcast tonight he not even playing Tom Sim chapinski did you see last week Lowry chip did and he found Dr chapinski I did I sure did see that brenley reports on the big course change Brentley Ro Min a Golf Channel 17 they took out the uh sort of gradual Beach bunker it’s looked like a nightmare to maintain just just runs into the water just sinks into the water and now it’s just a hard Bank uh not shaved down but but fluffy fluffy rough still a hard Bank though that can kind of I guess if you’re short you’re going into the water but I don’t know it was kind of a it’s kind of a tricky bunker shot sometimes if was if the pin was back you know and you kind of had to get it up and on um but yeah that that’s the big change this year no more more Beach bunker at 17 it’s like that can be kind of a kind of a a menacing part three at the 71st hole second to last hole there so that’s your big change to beill um yeah I I mean that 17th might play a lot harder now seems like seems like the threat of the ball really going in the water is is yeah more significant I looked at that I was like that that looks hard it looks a lot more difficult than I mean and that’s I think that’s just the changes there one and done one and done we’re hot we Hammer Hammer Time PJ PJ get in here fire hammerlock fire tout PJ PJ has been grinding on the Puerto Rico I I have more Puerto Rico takes than I do API oh which is probably is a disaster for me I mean API is a v of the year so far I I know but they’re all good whereas Puerto Rico they’re you get fun with who you’re bet you can you can uh who’s our locks who do you got PJ one and done picks you’re hot taking lvic don’t overthink it just right down the middle here big big dog machine man okay that’s it all right I I I hate to be uh boring here are you doing this I have okay okay well I’m gonna go crazy then off the board zag the other way and go with the number one player in the world Scotty sheffler w wow look at us $20 million purse I’m going to use it this is where he jumps and excels only 72 71 guys he’s got to beat versus you know 100 at the Masters or he only has to beat 70 players at the Masters too let’s be serious that’s fair that’s fair but uh yeah it’s it’s this is a spot obviously for him two time winner I think he’s played fine I know he’s coming back from the wine glass incident but I think he’s played just fine I’m going Scotty sheffler you know who I’m not you know I’m not hammering this week who our B our big boy aldrid oh I’m a little worried that bill might not be a good course fit there’s a lot there’s a lot of water out there uh there there’s some trouble you can get into just completely chopping out of the greenside rough just absolutely hacking through it uh did you see they put the laava Father and Son together the uh High Smith is with Klay so that’s good we’re gonna get that love I did see that I love tea times that are dictated by the Cades you love that Andy I know that’s your jam I saw that I mean it’s incredible I need more is there any way we could get laava laava Junior in in for to get to get the a three caddy group of laas the middle the middle like the third laava I think I think that’s all of them I think that’s the father and Son uh one guy you would not be you know want know how fall you know I’m I hate to bring this to attention I was just looking at the LA last year’s um yeah API do you know who finished T6 last year at API um no why would I know that T6 what a random pick who B Todd okay Brendon Todd I mean I don’t want to bring up a sore subject for you but seems like we’re we’re we’re just a long way away from that what was he dfl by like five shots last week or something it’s fine he’s been to the bottom before this this ain’t no problem as Shannon sharp would say he’s been at the bottom before one guy want a little sleeper you got a guy that you’re would no go ahead no what’s your sleeper could this be when uh when when our guy hog H coin starts his uh his Ridder cup candidacy I don’t think so but if you want to go with that go ahead sleep city right there not a yeah feels like he’s gonna get big time I I don’t know doesn’t feel like he can get his way around here enough uh love uh yeah there’s a lot of3 he’s got some work to do gotta get this back on the back on the tracks uh let’s talk about exemption gate Rafa Campos is in along with mck Hughes and the Shep Pinsky minw Le and Justin Rose uh campus more details came out look he he’s a Puerto Rico like a national hero he’s like I means a lot to me to grow the game but also I would do this to miss my home open uh because like look Mr Palmer was about you know being popular and growing the game at the masses and this what I can show to my home country this would mean a lot got emotional he wrote the letter and that’s why he’s in so we got further explication on that uh he’s not playing well uh Jordan Speed then had some quotes with a little bite little hot sauce on the top of them about his um about his I guess you want to call it a snub I don’t know he said in regards to API it’s been a great great place for me and I really wish I was getting that start but I needed to play better injured golf last year I guess look I mean he could go play the pr open this is the thing he could get into the Aon five I don’t think Campos is necessarily a good meritocratic exemption either what because he’s like what grow the game in Puerto Rico maybe like I think that’s a good idea I’m fully behind all that but that’s not a fully meritocratic reason in the same way that Jordan Speed shouldn’t necessarily like just get one for being Jordan Speed and I mean not she hasn’t done anything for four [Laughter] years yeah it’s not just the last year here’s the thing if Jordan spe had been had played better three years ago he still would have gotten it that seemed like a yeah a real punch back at the Sam Saunders interview needed to play better injured golf I guess you know how far we’ve Fallen I don’t want to say it was better in the good old days I don’t want to be like that guy but you know what was notable about this place Bay Hill this was where about I don’t know I want to say seven eight years ago Patrick Reed was caught on camera saying well I guess my name just needs to be Jordan spe guys because he gets all the treatment and here we are spe’s getting Heisman out of the field n n n we don’t need you they can’t even get in Patrick Reed’s basically not even a non- not even an entity in golf anymore and that’s how far we done fell you know speed can’t even get in the field he was Bor like you know not that long ago a paragon of Golden Child treatment and now he can’t even get an invite over Rafa Campos so that’s how far we fell and ra and you know Tigers playing screen golf for for consolation matches that’s where we’re at so yeah that was little bit exemption gate continued I was talking with Joseph lman a little bit about this today on fried egg pod but five years five years is a really long time in golf yeah like lots happened yes yes yep um a little bit else on uh on API you no MasterCard new sponsor integr AP hey can we do away I I know capslock is a real big thing that PJ tour Global home they’re they’re Advocates of using the capitalized button at all times but we’re now making arie’s place a proper noun it’s capitalized arie’s capital P Place same with Jack’s Place I no I’m not doing it call it Bay Hill call it Arnold Palmer’s Invitational but we don’t need to come up with pronoun a proper noun arie’s place in the same way that now fan forward is just a capitalized word it’s a pro it’s a proper noun I mean there was a lot of fan forward research I mean wait I got the Press players love the fan forward research and Mr spitball and is just well they’re using fan forward as a crutch for everything well fan forward tells us we got to do this we got to do that I don’t know I’ve done market research as a as a garbage job after college I that that survey company better have their [ __ ] together because it’s everything we’re hearing is fan forward is basically dictating the entire future of the PGA Tour I mean now they’re just using it without any is not as an adjective or anything through fan forward capitalize our fans are providing a road map for Innovation it better be a that that that that survey better have been locked down that sample size the cross tabs I’ve seen surveys and market research just lead a lot of companies you can paint any picture you want with some of this stuff I love that I love that a survey a survey is going to lead the Innovation from the PGA Tour a survey of random people is going to lead to Innovation what what are we yeah all the great ideas all the innovative ideas in the world come from surveys to the general public fan forward research has been our North Star the next 3 to 5 years will dictate the next 50 years of pro golf oh my God these are quotes these are quotes by the way capitalize fan forward is like going to be known as you know the the the you know whatever Truman Doctrine or something it’s it’s it’s a capitalized proper noun now fan forward he did say multiple times that the players love love fan for well it it just dissolves them of any responsibility or that thinking needing to think at all well fan forward tells us this we got to do that it’s just it just absolves them from everything well anyways fan forward Mr spitball and he’s doing the rounds Jay’s doing J’s doing interviews this morning uh says you know Deal’s not imminent after you know someone clearly from the tour side going to the White House says you know what we’re doing the tush push and we’re going in the end zone today dealing principal oh here we are a week later deal is not imminent we’re just you know everybody can’t be happy I heard that the the meeting was might have been pretty uncomfortable at the end are we talking like zalinsky and Trump in the whole office uncomfortable maybe that might be how all meetings go on are there I mean okay so yeah I mean that’s just what a change in tone you got tiger saying close close like soon very soon the reporter’s deal in principal might be announced today and now it’s like ah no deals imminent which is just basically the same cycle of [ __ ] we’ve been on for three years anyways fan forward they’re doing the rounds Jay’s doing his talk you know they’re talking about TOUR Championship we’d like to get a new format but who knows they’re run they’re running up against the timeline for that but the big one is Mastercard this is from Josh Carpenter was also a big press release we got today with a lot of capital letters MasterCard is adjusting its broadcast sponsor integration around the AR pmer Invitational this week as PJ tour continues efforts to enhance its product move of traditional broadcast inventory MasterCard which is a presenting sponsor will sponsor segments during live play tell around player caddy interactions it’s not clear how many times this will happen multiple activations are expected uh There Will Be Few commercials throughout the tournament uh with something fans of La clamored for we’re we’re trying to provide as much uh meaningful and insightful content as possible we want deeper interaction so instead of commercials are doing I I guess the broadcast has been ordered to lay out and just listen to player caddy interactions and maybe that’s like brought to you by MasterCard with some advertising around it it’s where it seems to be going what what player caddy I I guarantee we get a lot of laava action the two of maybe the two of them together on a part three yeah what what other uh uh caddy interaction do you most want to see especially I mean this is a time this is a chance for player caddy to to shine without speing the field maybe that was that was why he got crowbar is they wanted other caddy players uh player interaction to shine that’s a good one I mean I Billy of course I I love listening to Billy chat he was chatting away today in the in the tgl dome um Shane Lowry I always enjoy listen to him put his caddy sort of on the on the on the spot uh he’s a good good one is there somebody you’d like to hear more cow I’d like I’d like a check in with our guy pocker see if his his CAD is still on the bag that’s a good one so fan forward making progress here at the API with the I don’t know I guess less ads uh one other nugget at the bottom of uh a bottom of Carpenters article I just wanted to bring the light elsewhere at Bay Hill this week MasterCard is partnering with web 3 fash brand 9 DCC for its own apparel and accessories col collection so this web 3 fashion brand is some sort of as far as I can tell some sort of blockchain slfashion hybrid gobl amalgamation that is creating Master Card apparel and accessories I mean what is edgy about that we’re working with like one of the two monopolistic ma credit card companies Visa or Mastercard didn’t the NBA get hacked hacked tonight and got they were they tweeted out something about a crypto coin who did the MBA yes the MBA got hacked and was asked to uh you know transfer funds to a salana wallet with a fake press release who would do such a thing put out a fake press release I don’t know who would do something are we put we don’t have a lot to say about our fantasy picks they aren’t they aren’t as uh as biting as last who who would do such I got to say I got to ask I think it’s time to ask the question did the Dallas Mavericks front office get hacked is it’s just been a monthl long hack with Kyrie going down I mean it’s not good I feel so bad for Maverick’s fans so bad yeah it’s terrible Cavs and Bulls aren’t a tight one here late Cav BS just need to lose we just have to lose they refuse to lose and then last but not least MasterCard is having an on-site Creator Studio you might need to get the you might need to get Orlando you think we’re gonna get invited in there an on-site Creator Studio that allows creators to make content and network with others that’s the last thing these people need they need fewer networking between the creators we need we need more battles we need more Wars we need more you know squabbles I I don’t need more creators networking I have enough creators networking in my life uh get rid of the Creator studio so Master man we sure are spitballing aren’t we rich things to the next level that’s all I got for Bill a lot oh I did get a report that this is the worst Food of the year in the Press tent so I know people are always eager on that I can vouch for it I only have been in five years just disgraceful food offerings and I guess it’s just kept up uh that comes from a reliable source he not prone to bitching about depressed tent food um that’s your Arnold Palmer invitation on be Hill PJ what you got I have one more quote from from spitball on yesterday on his his press jet that I think Andy might might just lose it at um forward they were they were saying that you know uh there’s a lot of MLB investment with it with SSG Theo Theo was really cited heavily Theo got a a a public Shout Out by himself I Theo’s Theo’s a great man Theo brought a championship to my Chicago Cubs not disputing that Theo Theo has done very very well for himself he’s in’s office now he was one of we’re about 10 years removed it’s a this is this is perfect Cub span like I I don’t care I’m just so happy it happened I think that the Cubs have like 30 years until they have to be somewhat competitive again it’s fair it’s fair well Theo fene was was a a pivotal part of implementing the the pitch clock which is what they were discussing on five clubs here uh and and spitball and comes back with you know it’s been so so great so great for for MLB and he says look at how the NBA opened up the lane and increased three-point shooting as if that was a good thing that has totally not at all ruined the sport and made it completely unwatchable to to millions of people ratings are down I don’t think anybody likes three the three-point shooting anymore but that’s being cited as a positive for the NBA in these conversations that is uh you know maybe maybe he doesn’t have listen I’m just happy spitball and is talking about Innovation and other sports and and having an A M an a growth mindset you know the idea that we can move on from from the way things were maybe we could make a tweak here tweak there uh you know I just guessing spitball and doesn’t watch a lot of basketball I don’t think he’s a devoted NBA fan if I had to guess I was watching that Celtics Cavs game on Friday night my wife who like knows bassball doesn’t watch like she’s like wait so they just shoot three why are they shooting three every time wait so what like yeah it’s kind of what happened he’s like wait they just shoot they shoot threes every time like you’d walk in the room and’ be like back and forth like yeah I don’t know I think we’re a little too negative about that but what you know what someone oh you’re a LeBron backer no I just I don’t think it’s that it is crazy they do take a ton of Threes I just I don’t know that’s horrendous if somebody if somebody turned on golf after like a 30-year Hiatus they’d be like oh they just hit wedges into greens now that’s all they do yeah uh so that does it fold Palmer Invitational we got to say Jackson k he could earn he could earn his his card this week we could have we could have backto back collegate we could have three kids in college with PGA Tour cards which is wild wait wait wait wait wait does he get the points for a made cut in a 72 hole top 50 in ties make the cut event he gets one if he makes the cut if he finishes top 10 he gets two so if he finishes top 10 he’s in he gets his car isn’t kind of making the cut this week ridiculous compared to 144 players it it is I I’m not gonna I’m not gonna sit here though and argue like I think it’s like Jackson koven is really good I you know I agree totally totally totally but you know it’s wild what’s Wild is like there’s there could be after this week there could be three kids that are playing college golf with full PGA Tour status sitting and waiting yep and that doesn’t even include who’s number Who’s number one in PJ tour you right now there could be you know like that talk about just crazyness right like who’s number one I think it’s Ford maybe is number one he was round there he was rough let’s see yeah David Ford David Ford’s number one so that’s like wild cuz effectively like come may could have three or four uh kids going pro hey credit to the tour for adapting creating PJ tour you I don’t know if the fan forward deal told them to do that or survey but it’s good credit to them for doing that one more J my one question with the the PJ tour you and like you see this with like drafts uhhuh what if the year just stinks oh yeah yeah I know what you’re saying yeah like a should we hand out a car it’s an interesting thought I I I guess is it really easy to judge right away that the year stinks sure I think it’s so sub so do you think the agents are gonna battle for being available no no no no I’m just saying some guys could tell like some subsets of people know and it’s a stronger weaker class or or they think they know as much as you can um last fan forward bit J Monahan says 70% of our fans tell us they’d like to see the game reunified no [ __ ] that’s good so he had that one today so they needed a survey say reunified 30% would just like investment big big month for fan forward it’s it’s now it’s now an official Doctrine official capitalized Doctrine it’s just like it’s so PGA Tour return to golf they’re they’re three forward they’re three years late in saving their fans yeah they come out with fan forward after they’ve like hemorrhaged fans for three years people have been talking about the broadcast and and doing fewer commercials caddy combos yeah uh continuing on with our schedule for the week of the Puerto Rico open oh yeah and Reserve Golf Club Rio Grand Puerto Rico once again the host Puerto the PGA Tour event on the island of Puerto Rico you’re gonna read don’t read you cannot read the notables they could they could they could get into The Fray this is Thursday and Friday from 10 to 1 leading you right into uh Bay Hill I’d say great sort of brunch golf 10 to one go get some Moses and watch PR open on Friday uh and then Saturday 2:30 to 5 and 2:30 five on Sunday so that’s your TV schedule Puerto Rico El can I just read what’s our uh what’s our purse situation versus the 20 million up in uh Bay Hill they didn’t even I think it’s four it’s four is it four okay yes I’ve come across this on my research okay okay all right are you ready for our our classic in out alternate the first of the year are you ready I’m ready everybody knows the game if you don’t here the way it is is Brennan has done no research on the field you know how hard it’s I just wanted to dig into the Cutthroat corner and some of the names I’ve just totally avoided it for the last three days four days really okay I would say that you’re like a good week an inout alternate is 50% you you I present a player and Brendon has to guess in out or alternate um we are going to kick this off here PJ has created some graphics for this this is a new year of been out all we have all sorts of stuff up um I hope can I clarify is it the status as of this minute yes or was it the status okay all right so he could have been an alternate on Monday and now he’s in this is an extraordinary fluid situation we’ll get into the fluidity of the situation after we get through an out alternate I don’t want to tip any of my hand here okay okay all right up first we’ve got Nick Watney a true problem in in the early 2010 made like $50 million in career earnings yes um all right I haven’t looked at a thing I just know there’s been a lot of action I’m seeing a lot of actions WDS people are TAG I was like can’t look away every time um Watney was a problem I’m going in for the Puerto Rico open one for one hell there we go look at these Graphics PJ’s running all right this electric all right he’s one for one PJ make sure to keep count I’ve I’ve been known to forget uh second second player up Johnson Wagner Golf Channel analyst Wagner I know Kisner’s part-time in and out on the TV and play inside Wagner’s full time you know he’s he’s doing his high Jinks he has the chipping yips all out Yips on TV th throws a bean fastball he say 73 players last year yeah he’s out there he’s out you can’t get me with this one there’s no way he is an alternate no come on he’s like the E ultr he’s not playing though if he gets the call he’s W I’ve got television today what’s his last start okay alternate Ah that’s a curveball no way I I’m hoping this puts you in a blender Brian Stewart oh my God fashion fashionably wore a white undershirt on his way to like the 2017 zuro classic it was I mean pre he won pre pre-team event maybe the second to last dir class I guess an individual event yeah I remember that you could argue Stewart was the Catalyst for change down in New Orleans truly was one of the worst PJ tour events the last 15 years that that rain short it was terrible was it on Monday Monday finish I believe it was was worried it was gonna go to Tuesday and Brian Stewart just putting out the four people clapping um all right so we just we in this podcast said five years is a long time in golf not when it comes to alternate events all opposite field events because feels like this guy hasn’t done anything in eight years but I’m goingon to Guess that he is in he just feels like he’s still operating at the periphery and gets in you are correct yes is what a ridic how is this happening 2025 it’s insane all right Carl patteron the the the Nam sake of the pancake Zone himself the five win Club the The pancak Zone Carl Pon a five-time winner on the tour really was never the same after the anchor ban he lost weight remember he’s like I lost too much weight was that a weight Hamp what is that shirt he’s wearing I don’t he won the Lo he won he won the furrowed Rees Memorial when Jack put in Rogue r Road Rees Memorial he did he’s a proper player Pon lost too much weight lost his swing he he he can’t be in he’s he’s out he cannot be in or an alternate there’s just no way you are C all right I don’t know that’s a bridge too far all right let’s move on all right I mean Chris shroud I think he’s another winner of one of the worst PJ tour events the last like yeah um all right he was like playing the he was playing like the eight TNT Pebble proam like with s sponsor exception right like a year ago oh he was I think he’s got to be in still he’s still kind of active he’s got to be in God you’re getting good at this game you’re you’re in yes love it what am I three for four four for five four for five all right well how it usually goes I start hot and then go like 0 for six up next is The Frugal one one of the favorites of this pod winner of the John dear classic Dylan forelli all right this is just a guess so I I I have like a little tip on this one just because I have working context he just played the South African open I believe that’s correct I I don’t think he’s making the trip I think he’s he’s not playing you are correct he is he is keeping his commitment to the joerg open he did not expect to get into he got in as an alternate oh my God he hasn’t he’s been on the Euro tour for the last six months he’s just in well many many are speculating that the flight cost was just to the South African Puerto Rico flight cost was too big of a pill to to swallow he’s not doing that all right God five six where we at all right five of six up next Scott piery he’s got to be in he’s on all these he was in Mexico I think wasn’t he I don’t think he was okay he’s in you’re correct all right six of seven I’m hot you’re hot I’m hot I think things are about to get a little bit more difficult George mcneel no sporting a mountain lake Polo in this picture oh God had that cup of coffee at the Green Brier that one year whatever it was 10 years ago I think he was last good like 10 years 12 years ago I’m just gonna throw a blind dart on this one and I’m gonna say alternate feel I never guess alternate ever I always just do in or out I never do alternate I’m gonna just swerve and go alternate he is in oh my God come on this is unbelievable George mcneel is in the event how is this I mean Johnson Wagner’s an alternate that’s true that’s true he’s 49 years old George mcneel is he won the pr open in 2012 which was 13 years ago and he won the fries.com open in 17 or 2017 not 17 good God hasn’t played a major since 2015 that’s a decade ago he hasn’t even been in a major it’s incredible all right let’s move on next up we’ve got Neil uh oh KJ Choy KJ Choy uh wouldn’t he be playing the cola guard wouldn’t he be could he be in wouldn’t he he’s out he is an alternate he’s high up he’s like the third alternate KJ Joy he wouldn’t show up what so we need someone from the tour to like talk about how they create this alternate list like what is the process for why I think the corn fairy tour is off this week right uh they want Argentina yeah we didn’t shout that out on Sunday but yeah they may be so shouldn’t they be have just loaded with kft guys instead of one would think K KJ is currently in the field for the col guard by the way that’s what I figured he’s not showing up to PR I don’t know I a box and clean clocks all right you’re five of eight now right is that right or is he six of nine six six of nine six of nine all right we’re getting closer to 50% here all right next up dirt mcgurt all right waer Terriers very own got some his kid cading for him and something recently I saw um I’m gonna go in okay God Seven of 10 didn’t he win the memorial William mcgurt I want to say 2017 2016 great story we told about him at his players we’ll tell it later 2016 Memorial yeah beat John Curran in a playoff God John Curran like banking I don’t think Jack was probably jumping out of his chair for dirt mcgurt Johan K Curran playoff but whatever all right this is the first uh the first uh Memorial I had to write about for fried egg 2016 remember that all right Neil Lancaster a a a fixture an in out off top shelf what does that say top shelf container I feel like he lands often on alternates for these opposite field events alternate he is out you throw me you you threw me the change up you set me up with the play action there and then went over the top you always do this he’s been an alternate on so many of these finally got him all there all right another one that’s not that I did not put in here that was it was in consideration with Ted prie but up next is uh Jim Herman oh man he retired yeah I was gonna say I I thought he Ted Ted pie also in the field for the col guard that would make sense I was gonna say Tim Herman is he in he’s got to be in I’m guess in why would he I wouldn’t even where his name wouldn’t even pop in your head unless you saw him on a list right now this is a hard thing about this yeah all right up next da point in he’s a legend down of these opposite field events I’m just going in blind quick answer da point I think he’s a past champion of Puerto Rico but he is an alternate oh that’s disgraceful how does he not get a spot over some of these guys what is he eight for 12 now PJ how is yes eight eight uh eight for 13 we’re eight and five how is George mcneel ahead of Da points that’s what I want to know what how That Shook out in the wash okay I mean da I guess won the pebble he won the pebble with Bill Murray B the a the celebrity part not the real part get out of here with that all right George Bryan Wes is in if that helps okay um a sponsors exemption in like the Butterfield thing he is out okay sadly this is another change up another curveball yeah yeah you kind of got me there you deed me all right T at the Hitman oh come on he’s not still playing out there’s no way he is in oh my God The Hitman just like that he’s eight and seven he’s eight and seven folks just like that naturally comes back to the equator we’re at four four left Hitman I don’t think he ever won this is the confusing one yeah I I don’t think I’ve seen anything about him in like six years he won the uh he won the Alberta classic in 20 4 a nationwide tour win 21 years ago and he w a Canadian Tour event over James LEP that was when James left played on Illinois that was 04 yeah oh my God he’s in the field how does he have how does he how is he in this field getting FedEx chance to win FedEx Cup points all right miles Russell kid teen sensation um God I gonna guess he got a spons ah out I’m just say out you’re correct blad Brown okay miles what a what a save that that one might go down as the one that 500 blazes Brown sounds more likely I guess he’s a pro now all right all right other end of the spectrum here Carlos fr oh all right he is like the poster boy for the guy who chooses the champions tour over getting in off the alternate list at some of these additional events opposite field events he’s like no why would I go play a real PJ Tour event when I can just play the Champs tour yate te caddy he’s got a caddy who just carries his tea follows him outside the ropes with his urb mate I I feel like this is another one you’re trying to bait me because he’s been such a fixture in this I’m just gonna say I’m gonna say out an alternate damn it he got I was the blunder on that one I was going back and forth all right he got me crossed up need need to need to get him twice to to win to win the game he gets one more if Brendon gets one he he wins all right all right M Martin trainer this guy has like too much status I know like he can’t he’s like a he’s like a six handicap 50 weeks of the year but then the other two he’s you know he gets enough FedEx cut points to have some marginal status I’m gonna say he’s in he is out oh wow that shocks me I think he was at one point in he was he was in the first wave of WDS oh that’s see now that’s that’s dirty that’s dirty that’s not I see I see nine and N right now on my little notepad right now if he was in the field and then left the field I that’s a good guess he has status I’m that’s a quality guess you’re asking me to now know who’s WD as opposed to just guessing who like Rises to the status of of being in being able to play last but not dirty trick I believe this man made hay in the 2016 Bay Hill which makes it timely for this week we’ll close it out this is the last one Kevin Chapel he had like a major medical forever president cup player um I mean the beauty the beauty of this inout alternate was literally any name was in play sure Kevin Chapel I’m gonna guess he’s uh in Kevin correct all right what a victory gets above 500 there we go 10 and nine Andy you have you have your you have your late ad oh yes I forgot about this it’s not over it’s is a false flag here late last but not least I added this late to the game very late uh oh I don’t like this Dudley hard D he’s the assistant coach of Florida isn’t he is he coaching Florida um why would he come up in your eyes is he an alternate Dudley Hart he is out I I solicited a group text just name random golfer names and he was one that one would have been okay all right so you did kind of cross me up I was like there’s he’s literally a full-time coach I think in Florida at this point not playing okay I think that’s a win though to be completely honest complete win that’s a good one those were some good names God we are back with in out alternate I think we almost need to retire it after that who’s the wor who’s the most objectionable mcneel really stand stands out to me David Hearn is another one I can’t believe is in the field but um all right that’s your Puerto Rico open preview that’s all it is uh on the LPGA Tour we have the Blue Bay LPGA that’s a uh John Lake Blue Bay Golf Club in Hanan Island China uh this is the end of the Asian swing it’s you know overnight golf 11:00 p P.M to 4:00 am uh Wednesday through Saturday um then on the DP World Tour you have the Joe Berg open that is where is that that is uh early morning coffee golf 6:00 to1 a.m. on the DP world tour show showing on Golf Channel we also have Liv return of Liv Hong Kong we’ll talk about that Friday a little bit more as as those boys get back on the horse and go back uh out east to the Hong Kong uh live Hong Kong Joe Berg open um that’s not a good field that’s the DP World Tour for tell’s there though yeah Sunshine tour um and then last but not least on the champions tour we have the uh love you know the uh you know really what event maybe one of our favorite events the of the year the dump in a box classic the colard classic we are not uh proctal cancer we just find the anthropomorphic box who dances around before he gets dumped in to be sort of amusing but this is your Champions Tour they’ve moved this from the Omni Tucsan to La Paloma Country Club in Tucan Arizona do you know who the defending champ is of the dump in a box classic out in Tucson could you guess the defending champ oh man uh is it alker it’s Joe Durant oh yeah my guy would you have got that in a million guesses uh $2.2 million purse uh notables are stepen aler Mark Cal Kia fresh off to Fresh off of tending the Honda and complaining about beer prices he’s back on the horse playing the dump in a box classic steu sink Ernie elves padrick Harrington Bernhard loner Tom Layman Steve Stricker and Mike Weir you’re going to have to work for this one it’s on like the NBC Sports app on Friday PJ will find it for you I I will find it that’s that’s a promise this is this is my Super Bowl uh this is this is the people’s major uh this is the you know Waste Management of the champions tour I would say uh this is I’m I’m I’m downright kiddy for for the col guard this week you love it it’s such a ridiculous event such Aid ridiculous title sponsor the the box kind of walking on the street and doing dance moves in the bathroom and I you know is the box there in person is there a mascot box this year there should I mean the things like the most you know one of the best biggest celebrities on the champions tour at this point is the Box who gets dumped in uh but yes uh we’re big fans of the col guard classic uh I think that does it I don’t have any new oh news uh Pine Valley will host the 24th 44 Walker cup that’s a long ways away that’s 21 uh 19 years from now 20 44 Walker cup good roota for that Andy lot of lot of lot of you know tweets line up for that yeah those kids put this in perspective Walker Cup’s like 21 year olds yeah y that’ll be at Pine Valley awesome it’s amazing yeah good stuff I think the last one there was 85 of Walker I mean the arguably the people that some of the people that get the deal done probably aren’t going to be alive like that’s kind of the wild place we’re at with these event assignments yeah um and then La also last bit of news anel Cabrera has committed to play the master so uh not that elata will be back I’m just sort of in interested in who they uh pair him with who are they sending him out with Phil oh did you see the war of words with Phil yeah Fred low class for saying Brooks wants to come back on the PGA tour called called Freddy Couples low class I’m just kind of I don’t know sort of it feels like feels like you know a news cycle from I don’t know four years ago at this point Phil’s tweeting angrily Freddy’s popping off it’s like we’re still doing this in 2025 he said you know if it’s true he damaged relationship if it’s it’s not true he’s damaged a relationship which he cares about speaking of Freddy Brooks if it is true he took away Brooks’s control of the timeline and narrative either way this is a low class jerk move by Fred taking away the control of the timeline and narrative I I don’t know I mean oh the indignity but yeah Freddy said I know for a fact Brooks wants to come back I don’t know Brooks probably doesn’t love Freddy talking about that out loud but that was a big bit of a aggregation drama from a radio program here at the end of the week um all right that does it for this Wednesday episode rousing inout alternate little tgl talk anything else you want to add about tgl before we get off the get get playoff should we save the power rankings been here do we want to run the power rankings what do you think it’s up to you could tease them for Friday could leave them for Friday if you want we more more uh more data crunching I I have to do I I have to say you know the analytics I I have to you know the the one thing is I saw the one analytics I saw the sabber metrics that they brought up on the on the on the broadcast that jup links have thrown more hammers than any team and they have the lowest success rate kind of Matt E flu territory for your two planks I mean they’re just poorly coached they’re terrible see my Bears wheeling in deing today you got a line or something so excited just great glad for you got another body we just need bodies round pick we’ll do Power Rankings on uh Friday maybe yeah maybe Friday yeah let’s do we’re gonna do them Friday okay we got time till the playoffs too we’ll do a flashback yeah you gotta week off because they’re they’re letting the gold standard take over for a week so all right we’ll talk to you on Friday thanks for your support for