On this week’s edition of the podcast, we sit down to discuss to Golf Ireland’s announcement of the iGolf scheme. Is it good, is it bad? What does this mean for golf clubs? Who will it benefit? The big power hitters from golf’s merger deal were all on site at the Alfred Dunhill Links, how will this never-ending negotiation deal play out? It was also a good week for Seamus Power as he looks to tee up his PGA Tour season early plus we said goodbye to Stuart Grehan who called time on his professional golf career as he moves into the next phase of his life, with a 2026 Walker Cup appearance on his agenda.

[Music] Hey everybody and welcome along to this week’s edition of the Irish Golfer Podcast. Peter Finnen here and joined as always in studio by the great Rona McNamara. I wouldn’t go that far, but uh I’m I’m happy to be here. You’re in good form anyway. Hanging in there. Ah, well, I don’t know. Yeah, in okay form considering a 97 minute equalizer, a bit bit of a divot in the football pitch there on Friday that we won’t get into, but yeah, we’re still listen, we’re still tracking. We’re still we’re we’re we’re on track. Leads United are on track. Um, lots of stuff to get stuck into this week. Like, it’s been fairly eventful week in golf. I think we’ll we’ll sort of break this up into two halves of a chat to keep a bit of structure on it. Um, we’ll go the tournament route first. We’ll have a chat about DP World Tour, PGA Tour, little bit of stuff that’s going on. And then when we get to roundup, it’s uh gloves off, a little bit of eye golf chat. It’s been all that’s dominated uh the news since Golf Ireland announced they officially launched it last week just after we um put out last week’s podcast. And uh yeah, media partners didn’t get a nod on that one, but that’s another day’s work. Um, right on to DP World Tour. Let’s start off. It was the only proper golf tournament uh in play this week. Uh, the Alfred Dunhill links. Thoughts? Boring. Really? You’re not a fan of this? No, I’m not a fan of it at all. No, I just watching like some of the best players in the world take advantage of vulnerable lings courses isn’t really my idea of entertainment. Really? You thought they were vulnerable? Well, yeah. 24 under. Yeah, but that’s that’s it’s the course is set up so easy just for the proam element as well. Yeah, there is an element of that easy enough pins are not like ridiculous. But no, I I like this as a tournament. I’ve always liked this as a tournament. Uh like I’ve never slated it. I can tell why you’re not a big fan based on the amateur. Like the amateur side of it does I don’t I don’t care if Bob McIntyre’s outlad holds a put for birdie. Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly. or Terrell Hatton’s dad is getting in like Coulsart’s way halfway through. He was some of them were a bit slow and that was a bit tedious. But um no, I quite like this event. I like the timing of it. I like where it happens. It’s more the political importance of this that is brought to the four. We we’ll get into the golf end of it first. Right. Format three golf courses. Kings Barns can all course. What do you think? I like the course selection. Yeah. And they it’s a they got lucky with Carusi playing pretty easy all week. Um Kings Barnes is a great golf course. We definitely don’t see enough of that at all. I always find Kings Barnes. Oh, no. I haven’t played Kings Barnes. I always played the other one real things about it. So do I. Brilliant. Yeah, it’s only open since 2000. Like it’s only 24 years old. It’s not a real old school um traditional type golf course, but no, people rave about it. I have to get across there. I’d love to play it. Uh you probably will. anybody listening or for that mess. My DMs are open. Um, no. Yeah, I I really like this tournament. I liked how it played out. There was loads of storylines. Um, you know, it it turned into a bit of a live ding-dong near the end when you had Legion 13 and Terrell Hatton hanging on as the fireballs and David Puig just dropped away in the back nine. But, um, yeah, let’s let’s start off with Hatton. Um, thoughts on Terrell like he he rubs people up the wrong way. Um, I like them. I love them. I I I love the the the exploitives, shall we say? It was very funny. I think it was on Friday he was playing with Bob Mack and um Hatton missed the port and he’s like, “Oh, you know, greens are so so slow. Cut them.” And then Bob Mack missed the Oh, don’t worry, man. The Greens are [ __ ] Yeah. Well, them two lads going on all day like No, Terrell definitely did. He sort of whined and cursed his way around the old course over the weekend. Uh but first three-time winner, his seventh DP World Tour win. Um it does like it’s still he you know the course record 61 and that uh around St. Andrews he co-holds that now with Ross Fischer but like he’s a three-time winner on the old course in professional tournaments. Got to play it with his dad. Um stuff like that is a very special win. It comes at a very timely time for Tier as well with the his first live golf season just put to uh a close and um yeah world ranking points obviously slim pickings few and far between but he’s rocked up to a few DP world tour events people aren’t happy some people online I see comment on but like this is the system he is there he wants to clearly wants to play RDER Cup and he’s proven I know people’s argument you can’t have it both ways you actually can if you play the system, right? There are loopholes there for a reason. I believe the DP World Tour are leaving those open for their own gain. And this tournament was all the better for having all the live guys teed up. Yeah, it was. It was a brilliant field. Like you had Ram, you had Hatton, you had Keepa, um you know, you Patrick Reed, like major winners all over the place. And yeah, like it’s it’s great for Terrell. He’s definitely a massive winner as far as the whole like merger thing is concerned and taking advantage of some of the the loopholes up to 16th in the race to Dubai into the top 20 now in the world again. Um that kind of just like whatever does happen that kind of sets him up now for the next 12 months as well. Yeah. It gives him another year. Exactly. It gives him another year of um you know they’re all playing the waiting game. We’ll get into the politics of it now. Like it’s it it is definitely easier for the likes of Patton and Ram to come over to the DP World Tour cuz they know they’re when they to te the best and they’re welcome. Yeah. Like the tour are welcoming these lads over. It’s the there’s a massive difference and I think people are still stuck up on this on like they’re a different category of live player. You have the rats which are Palter Casey honestly like Westwood. I put Stanton Stenson in there as well like as just the ultimate double crossers the way they went about it. Um whereas I would have a total different opinion of Tier Hatton and John Ram and guys like this when they come back they’re like they have made them choices for total different reasons and they’re trying to game the system the way the system is open to be gamed the other lads and Sergio as well. I’d put him as one of the rats as well. Um, but there’s a reason why those lads are becoming obsolete in golf and you know a lot of a lot of them are going to have nowhere to go in the next year, year and a half and and and hopefully stuff gets done and stuff gets agreed with the tours. But no, I’m I’m a big fan of Hatton and Ram and Co coming across and trying to better themselves and taking advantage of the system. Yeah. Well, that’s what that’s what it’s there for, you know. H I’m disappointed Ter won though. I wanted Big Niko to win. Yeah, man. I did put into the um I did put into our Slack channel, our WhatsApp group. Uh I was torn coming down the back N. I really wanted Hatton to do it because I know how much was at stake for him career-wise and it’s nice to see that sort of Jeopardy as in he needed to do this to get so many events up and make sure he was at Fitzy’s wedding according to his interview afterwards. But um yeah, Colarts um yeah, I was rooting for him down. It was just it’s a real just resurrection. I love a redemption story like that. Like I’ve big into the Matio Manasaro stuff. I seen Paul Dunn had a great round last week after us bigging him up as well, but didn’t go too well from after that. But it’s he’s shown signs. Um but no, Cole Sarts was really good. Uh it was just some performance like to get a sponsor’s invite. He’s without a top 10 since 2023. Dunh Hill links and world ranking a 695. So like his ability to hang around was something that I doubted at the start of the round, but he proved that he’s well capable, especially in a course like St. Andrews the way it was. It was playing quite tough yesterday as well. Um definitely suited and playing into his wheelhouse, but like he’s trying to juggle two careers there. Like he stepped into broadcasting sort of relying on exe exemptions to try and reclaim his card and yesterday’s finish took care of all that for him. Yeah, it’s it’s mad to think what happened to him. I know he’s not been well the last two or three years, but like since the 2012 Rder Cup, he just he disappeared really, didn’t he? Like he hasn’t he his last win was 2019 and that was seven years after Madina. Um like he hits the ball a country mile still and he’s you look at him, you think, how are you not still, you know, competing at the top level? Like he’s only 41. That’s what I couldn’t believe. He’s only 41. like it seems like he’s been around for so so long. Um 41 is still quite young like and physically he’s in good nick. Um so you’d like to think that he do but like I don’t know like the you can look up his injury struggles, his illness struggles like he’s had a lot over the last number of years. No point in us getting into them but it’s quite high-profile stuff and it really was debilitating stuff that set him back. So he’s been quite unlucky with his health in his career. But yeah, it’s great to see him uh like the win would have been great, but I think the win despite the fact Tier it’s a seventh win on the DP World Tour and he’s h doing what he’s doing. I think the win actually meant more to Hatton than it would have to Colarts if that in a really weird type way. Hatton needed it more. Colart the second spot gets him still gets him his tour card locked up for next year. Like it’s half a million euros after winning uh on an invite. He’s back. I think he we the French Open in a couple of weeks. Um that’s his last DP World Tour win. So he’s going somewhere that he he likes the look of. And yeah, more power to him. Really good. The albatross was class. Did you see that? Yeah. Yeah, that was good. So good up the back up the slope at the back roll back down and he no clue about it. I couldn’t see. He just starts tracing towards the hole and didn’t find out for a couple of minutes. But uh no, it was really good. I I enjoyed watching Colarts. Um, but no, Hatton just he answered all the questions like he was coasting away at this tournament. Double bogey 13 out of nowhere. The bunkers just really caught up with him which is what I love about St. Andrews. The bunkers on the back line is so good. Um, and 134 dropped three shots. Cold starts picks one up. It’s game on. But when the crunch came to it when push cames to shove like uh playing 17 and 18 like how Hatton played 17 all week was so like the two times he played it’s so good the lines he takes off that tea compared like there was 150 yards between them off the tea not distance-wise like widthwise dispersion wise like um even though Colarts is a big hitter he just went down to second he just was not taking it on at all whereas uh Tier really just has no problem taking it over the hotel right down the narrow line and uh leaving himself a good angle in. And that shot, the sevenwood that he hit into 17, that was the winner. That was the game winning shot. Like he left himself 210 15 yards into the green and where he hit that sevenwood was the only place you can hit it. Like you’re going sort of long left back left of the of the green. Such a class shot. So good. Yeah. Bob McIntyre is not a fan of 17. See that I have him down as my I have him down for later on. You can get into it if you want, but I’ll have a rant about him on the back end. He just has given it away. He is in my villain category this week. But yeah, he’s not a fan. We’ll get into that in a bit. But it’s um Yeah, it’s No, I I I really enjoyed this tournament. Like the politics of it all. Like even the You love hits and giggles, don’t you? Yeah, Bob. When Bill Murray annoyed me that he was there, but he kind of settled in a bit. Bill Murray seems to be different when you take him out of America. He hams it up a bit too much over there. He was a bit quieter this week. Um yeah, I like the I I do the team element of it like uh is good. We had an Irish winner in it as well, you know, with Torbjon Olison and Derma Desmond claimed the team championship uh going around and like you see the scores they pumped in 58 and 59 over the weekend is some serious numbers. Yeah. Ah yes like very good. It’s crazy. And they they won it by two. Dur Desmond’s 74 years of age. Uh, I would not put him in the JP McManus or any of the McManus’s bracket when it comes to golf and managing, let’s say, managing what you’re playing on leading into tournament. Like, he’s a good single figure player. He’s a he’s a Rover’s rat as well. He’s a Shamrock Rovers rat. He’s a Shamrock Rovers. He likes the hoops. Um, but no, like Dermat Desmond at 74 years of age, he played off six for this championship, twothirds of his. Uh, so he’s maintaining a really good handicap. He plays to a good level. It’s the second time he’s won this um around I think he won with Robert Carlson back in 2010, but he was on the card six times in the final round as well. So like he contributed a fair bit. It wasn’t all the pro. Uh he has bragging rights in his own gaff as well. I seen his three sons missed the cut. So Derry, well Ross and Brett all failed to make the 54 hole cut. and he did a little speech afterwards when he was collecting his his overall prize and he was quite well spoken at like they’re much better golfers than I am. He said, “At my age now, I’m a realist. I know I can do and I know what I can’t do and there are a lot of things that I can’t do that they can do, but I just had a good weekend and that was it.” So, no, fair play to him. Uh, it’s good to see that. And yeah, he’s such a big supporter of golf on the DP world and the global level that it’s it’s good to see. Still Rover’s rat. Rover’s won again the weekend as well. He’s going for the going for the five in a row. Going for the five in a row. H didn’t look on. Poor El Duffer struggling to get shells over the line. He’s given Derry City, you know, we’re we’re flip-flopping here. But he’s given Derry City zero chance. Like literally what he said in his press conference yesterday like Derry have two games in hand. They’ve just lost another game. They have three games left. I think they’ve no win in 10 now or one win in 10 Rovers or um Shells have. And he came out and he said, “Look, we have three games left. If we win those three, we’re champions of Ireland.” Just going, “Jesus, pal, they’re big statements. You could win them three.” I know. Exactly. Anyway, back to the golf. Back to the golf. Um the politics of all this really interested me. Johan Roupert trying to bring golf back together again. It’s that’s what I’m saying about earlier about it being a great time of the year. Um, it pisses me off that it takes a billionaire like him to try and connect the tours, get things over, get Jay Minan over. Like, why was Jay Minan over here? Why Why did he come over? He’s not a bad golfer as it goes. No, he’s not a bad golfer, but why was he come over? Like, if you read the room, there’s clearly um I’d say some behind closed doors chats with Yasier and some of the other key figures as well. There had to be. I just It really annoys me the two lads playing friends when they hate each other. Like there’s let’s just not. They think we’re Gobshits watching this like, “Oh, let’s hug it out on the 18th. Little cameos, little camera things.” Um, there’s only one reason in my head that Jay Mahan’s coming over here, and that is because he knows the DP world are a massive threat to his overall plan of trying to keep this long fingering as long as possible, trying to keep whatever deal is done into 2025, maybe into 2026. And people are getting pissed off with it. People are getting angry with the politics of how this is going on. if he didn’t turn up there would have been you know a lot of stuff is going on there you have a lot of big power hitters there you know when you get the JP Mcmanises and Dermat Desmonds and Rory Mroy and Johan Ruperts and guys Mroy playing with all of them as well but yeah but that’s the thing but like Rory is a big part in all this as you know strategically how he stepped away from his board roles on the PGA tour but it does seem like he’s kind of guy Kenning right-hand man with a lot of things and new new I know we’ve a strategic alliance with um the DP world tour and the PGA tour but there is definitely so much more at play here and that is the only reason Jay Monah had met got in his private jet and come over here for the week cuz he knows there is stuff happening in the background without his involvement and they will be underpinned if they do not cop onto themselves the DP world tour will I’m not going to say sell out to But look at more of a global approach. Well, like if you look at the field that they had um this week and then Spain as well, like the DP World Tour has so much to gain if the negotiations go, you know, tits up. Yeah. And they are they could just flip it and Yeah. say you come on over here and play play for us. It’s the ultimate flex by the DP World Tour like an event like this at a time like this. And yeah, it’s it’s it’s just such a pity, Johan Rer, to take someone like him to go and pull all this together and actually go out of his way to invite guys over that make this a better tournament. It just it really highlights what we’re missing out on a global scale with the divide we have at the top. But I just do I don’t see I don’t see the appetite. I know there’s the DOJ stuff happening with the uh trying to get a deal done in America, but that’s irrelevant to the global scale and it just makes so much sense now for DP World Tour and Piff Live to do something together and actually have it that it’s still like they’re getting on with the PGA tour and there’s a proper ecosystem or a lot do a proper world tour like this is what Rory this is what like you know what Rory is angling for and he’s coming out a lot of sound bites like giving little indications of what he’s at, what he’s thinking and yeah, like it’s it’s the only way forward from what I can see. Yeah, like a world tour built around national opens I think would help golf in Europe as well. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree. Like even even but the politics of it all even I have like notes written down there, little asterisks. Why isn’t the winner of this tournament getting a mast’s invitation whereas the winner and the Sanderson Farms get like there’s so many bad things like national opens on the DP world tour should be get like the Irish Open winner should be getting a Masters invitation as well stuff like that like the fall events on the PJ tour are getting them it’s total it’s it’s so bad it’s so badly weighted when you have the world ranking points weighted in their favor you have the access into the majors weighted in their favor. Like when you actually strip it back and have a look at all and this has turned into a bit of a live rant. This is getting back to the John Craven days with me now. Except you’re not coming back at me with the the dirty money politics and and all that. You you’ll just say there were worse regimes. Yeah. No, but from from All right. All right. I’ll take that one on the chin. The um you have me lost there now what I was going to say, but no, on the um on this side of the water. Yeah. It’s just just it’s it’s something that has to be done. Um they have to get into a room and they have to get it sorted out. That’s it. You totally ruined my line of thought there in my whole trail. But um yeah, like at the end of the day with how Liv is going and like I’m not a fan of Liv per se, but I watch it and I enjoy bits of it and I enjoy something that it brings to the table. It’s different and it’s growing as a product in my opinion. I don’t slate it like people are online going like they’re just so onedimensional about it. But I have different categories like I said of how I look at some of these players. But there is a big six months ahead of live and what like they’re not walking away from golf. They’re going to double down. They did an agreement like a year this time a year ago. They had an agreement when the legal challenges were dropped and we wouldn’t poach players and stuff like that and then they went they opened their checkbook and they got John Ram. They will do the same again this winter. like they need they need a couple more superstars. They’re buying legitimacy and there seems to be less reason for guys, especially on the European tour side, not pointing at Rory Mroy or like that, but there seems to be less of a hindrance from guys going. If you have access to events like the Dunh Hill and the DP World Tour, get their act together and start putting on events like this that have access for live players, it’s only going to go one way. Yeah. And then even like another point to that is if you look at someone like David Puig or Puig, or however you pronounce his name, like he all of a sudden you’re thinking if things get sorted out the way he’s played the last couple of weeks, you’re looking at someone who could be on the RE Cup team. Yeah. if he won. So if David Puig won, if you look at his with this win stats, he would have been into the top 40 of the DP World Tour rankings, which shows how well this is weighted towards these events and kind of that’s a little loophole in the system as well. Now, some of these loopholes are left there on purpose by the DP World Tour because they know access like there’s no one on the European tour that does not want John Ram as part of the Ryder Cup team. There’s no one I don’t think there’s anyone as part of that team or the back room or um the politics uh at the top of the DP World Tour that wants Tyrell Hatton there as well. They’re two lads they want to give every opportunity and have given every opportunity to um to come along and get involved and yeah, more power to them. But yeah, David Puig was funny like we’re going on about um stats and uh see his final round like he was the closest challenger. He went out in 29 and came home in 39. Yeah. Did you see that? Like that. Like St. Andrews was a tale of two halves. But same with your with your man Tom Vant the French guy. Yeah. He was going seriously. Well, yeah. Bogey like 14 15 16 17 uh 12 15 16 17. Yeah. Like so so tough and expensive. But uh yeah, like big ups to Johan Rupert. Um, I’ll probably be mentioning him later on as well. Bless you, Ron. Thank you. Um, but yeah, like I was saying, system is a bit in limbo land. Uh, when you look at Dunh Hill Links definitely should have master spots as as should not masters. Uh, national opens and stuff like that, but uh, yeah, other players in the field, Tommy Lad was a bit just cold putter. Never mind him. Never mind. Never mind him. Honestly, no. Like he’s ah I’m I’ve said this loads of times about Tommy Fle. I’m actually sick of him like at this stage. I used to love him and everything. He’s great with his hair and like you know he’s a great advert for head and shoulders and all that kind of crap. But the man can’t buy a port under pressure from six feet. Yeah. Yeah. Like it’s he should have he could have won this thing by four or five shots that puts he missed over the weekend. Yeah. On every course he’s misses. different and he’s and like he’s still shooting you know 67s and everything and like he’s 10th in the world and I’m thinking what have you won the last decade of any significance genuinely like I it’s another Tommy Flewood run for me but like bloody hell I’m actually sick jeez that’s a Liverpool man now he’s Everton though now we know why you don’t like the difference he’s a blue like you look at his career and it’s a great career seven wins on the DP World Tour. Hasn’t won in America, has he? No. He never will. You think so? Well, he keeps putting like that. No. All right. Right. Let’s get into the Irish boys. Uh, we’ll take them from the top, work our way down. Shane Lowry, tied 12th, 68, 70, 68, 66. Final round. 16 under. third his fourth successive top 13 finish and his third 12th place finish in four events while being absolutely knackered. Knackered. Yeah. And he’s off now for a couple of weeks. Thank God. But uh a good performance. Yeah. Ah, look, he’s put him on Link’s course. He’ll do damage. 28 28th in the world now. He’s turned like, as we we’ve said so many times, what could have been a real dodgy year into a pretty handy one. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, it’s really it is really good. Um then yeah, like it’s good to see him taking the few weeks off. It is good to see him taking the time off before like he’s going to head out to uh Dubai and Abu Dhabi and stuff like that at the end uh in the next month or so. And like he’s a good record around Abu Dhabi as well. Won uh won that tournament back in 2019 which kicked it all off for his major win season. So yeah, no really good stuff from Shane and he yeah, enjoy your few weeks off. I’d say he’ll stay at home as well. I can’t see him going back to the States. Uh no, I’d say at home depends where the kids are. Yeah. H Rory tied 25th. Uh 14 under a couple of shots back. Um never really feel he plays well at this event actually. No. Well, bar 2007 when he got third and need like it was an invite from Johan Roert to uh help him avoid having to go to tour school and uh yeah, finished third. The rest is history. But yeah, no outside that. Yeah, he’s it’s there seems to be a lot gets done at this tournament off the golf course and we were talking about the politics of it all and you know Rory is nose deep into that trough going through what’s going on how things are going like the evening times and the night times in these tournaments are pretty much as important as the networking side of it as what’s happening they’re probably more important as to what’s happening on the golf course. Rory’s always a great addition to this event and uh yeah like we were highlighting David Puig doing mad stuff like Rory in the same day like Rory bird he was out in 29 as well seven birdies in the opening nine holes and then just went dry in the back n to car the 68 just stalled in the back nine but um yeah Rory’s just in chill out zone mode isn’t he having a bit of fun now yeah yeah and god Jerry was shocking wasn’t he Jerry’s birthday and everything going over fist bumping kids with signs and yeah, it was it was funny. But uh and it was good for the lads to be able to do that around and I know little birdie told me as well like last night they uh yeah, they partied on. Tier Hatton had a nice little party on into the the wee hours of the morning and Rory and Shane went to that as well. So like they’re they’re all tight. They’re all they’re all keeping their Royal Cup is very much on these guys’ agendas and um there will be no one more happy for Tier Hatton winning than someone like Rory Maloy because he knows what he brings to a team and what we will need characters like Rory Mroy to stand up and be or like Tier Hatton to stand up and be counted in New York like he will love the hate that is poured on him and the more needle the more guys like that we get into our team coming into next year the better. Yeah, I I agree. I agree with that. Um, where are we going? Tom McKibben, uh, tie 43rd. Not the weekend he would have won. No, he was in a good position kind of halfway. Stalled at St. Andrews the final round like stalled. Uh, he six like he shot level par in the final round, but he six birdies on the card around St. Andrews. Too many mistakes, but still maintaining. He’s still 15th position, still holding on to that ninth tour card of 10. And uh like we said last week, just needs to keep tipping along. More of the same. Uh yeah, well it’s squeaky bum time now for that PGA tour card. Yeah. Three three regular events left before the playoffs or whatever they’re called now. It’s the guys the guys behind him like your man Hago that won he’s a close challenger now actually. The guy that won in Madrid beat John Ram last week. Like he’s you know between Guido and him there’s not a lot like Tom is opening up a bit of ground. So, no, it’s good. It’s all it’s all positive. Um, and Tom is, you know, he’s young, fit enough, and hungry enough for the fight that’s up ahead. And there’s nothing there’s nothing he hasn’t played in before that’s coming up ahead of him. So, no, it’s all good. Um, Harrington as well. Yeah. H during the first round, I thought he was going to be well up there and then he kind of faded towards the end and never really got it back. Like just the low scoring element of it all just didn’t really help him at that stage. Once you’ve you’ve kind of fallen away after round one, you’re playing a serious amount of catch-up. Yeah, he finished with he finished when you put it into context, he finished the same score and there like tied 25th as Rory Mroy. So like you know there’s a massive age difference and a massive um physical difference three rounds in the in the 60s. This is no slouch of a tournament. Like the really good thing and that’s highlighted by like the last player that we have to highlight in this before we move on. Alex Magcguire like he will be very disappointed coming away from this. Got a last minute shout to come in and yeah not what he wanted. No like Carnusi kind of done out of it really like opening 74 first day. Yeah. Like even like Harrington 667 in the first round at Carusi was the second best on the day on that golf course and he was nowhere near the lead. So maybe playing Carnusi first kind of went against those kind of guys. But yeah, for Alex it was a good opportunity miss particularly given that he was going to play St. Andrews back to back at the weekend and we all know what he can do around there and he did shoot a bogy free 67 but that’s it. too late. It was well he just and it just goes to show the fine margins he finished 4 under par missed the cut by two like so 600 par is your cut at an event like this now it’s over three rounds so it’s a bit deeper than it normally would be and we got a flat cam Saturday on most of the courses but still the the standard in this is just so like if you were just to read statistically in his finished tied 121st you just think ah it’s a sh week But it’s actually not like to shoot 400 par cumulatively around those three courses like he did. He has game. It’s just now where does he go? Yeah. Wise. What? Like what? He’s no option. He’s running out of options really. Yeah. And then the Q school first stage being rained off after 36 holes h has done him out of it completely. So like 2025 is going to be a tough year. You’re kind of clutching it a bit. Play pay and play job, isn’t it? clutching on the clutch. Clutching on the clutch. But um yeah, like it’s a tough tough road ahead, but like yeah, he he has the game. He proved he has the game. It’s just getting getting the starts and getting into these. Like that was a valuable start for him and he’s missed the boat on it uh this time around. So hopefully he gets more. Did you get your car washed? Oh yeah, my car is out there getting valet now. I see it now. You’re good to yourself. Shining. You’re good to yourself. That’s a good spot out the window. Right. Stick to golf now. You’re after bringing up my car getting washed. Shamrock Rovers Dermat Desmond. You’re bringing up all sorts. You wrote up there. Well, to keep the blinker. I’ll have to get You’re like a young raceh horse. I’ll have to get you blinkered. Um right. Uh PJ tour, did you watch this now? No. You I like I followed it on the leaderboard cuz Sheamus Power was going well, but um in the back of my mind I was thinking, will I wake up now tomorrow morning and see that Keith Mitchell is bogy the last? And he did. And he did. Um yeah, it was. Now I only watched the back n Sunday is all I watch on a lot of these sort of second fiddle PGA tour events. But yeah Kevin U just came out of nowhere. Um this is first win. He like in fairness to him that the 18th hole was playing the third hardest hole on the course all week and he birdies the 72nd hole and birdies the first playoff hole. Yeah. That’s assassin mode. That’s how you get it done. And like he like he’s up to 71st in the world, but even like his ranking before that he was 135 and he was lingering around the top 100. Like he’s no no slouch in that regard. It’s not like he’s come from 450th in the world. No, he’s no slouch. But it just goes to show the difference of like I could name so many players, young players coming through or players like that that Yeah. Now Kevin U has played himself into having a PJ tour card has earned the right to do that. But you like you’re not going to tell me he’s a better player than someone like a Tom McKibben. No. And he’s well ahead of him in the world rankings now because he’s got one. This is where the whole ecosystem is out of keilter. But no, fair play to him. Uh yeah, go comes gets the the the job done. It was like a battle of the a battle of the visors coming down on the back nine with like Bo Hustler and uh Teflon Keith or whatever you call them like and like two horrendous fellas to be honed like I tuned in the back n the innovation coming from the PGA tour is just shocking from their host providers from the TV side of things We’re so lucky with Sky Sports. Like these boys send out press releases last week about lads going around and doing like oh we’re doing in round interviews now with players doing that for 10 years. Like they’re doing it a day and there’s limited amount of questions. They’re going to be like they’re only allowed to ask two questions and they have to be presscripted. You’re just going this is shocking like this is bad. And then halfway through the final round uh I don’t know did you see this to the little bit that you’d watched. So Keith Mitchell is there and he’s a shot clear. He’s four holes to play. And they get JT posting on the phone like skyping in on his phone from baggage arrivals in the airport on his way home like after the thing rooting for his buddy talking about his uh his wardrobe and how he’s the best dressed man on tour and all. You’re just going, “Lads, this is septic.” It was so bad to watch. But um yeah, I was glad when he came in in the end when Kevin you come in because yeah I just I can’t stomach watching the like of Keith Mitchell. I don’t know what it is about him. Bo Hustler the same like Bo Hustler he’s two sweaty lads. No but Bo Hustler is uh you know like the Pter beat him in a playoff a while ago uh back when he was like that’s you’re going back six seven years for that one. I remember sitting down doing stuff with Bo Hustler with Tailor Made actually over in the Kingdom in 20 I think it was 2018 2019 when he just come on the scene like he was a good Walker Cup player. It was actually Jack Hugh I think him and Jack Hume went toe-to-toe at one of the Walker Cups. He kind of burst onto the scene at one of the US Opens as well. Yeah, just after that. But yeah, he just just one of these nothing middle of the road guys. Um, but like when you look at what a runner-up finish gets a guy like Bo Hustler, it’s a lot and it’s probably too much. But yeah, it’s far too much considering like Hatton only got 18 like well ranking places. Hustler’s gone from uh 100 in the world to 79 for coming second for for bottle in the playoff. Yeah. Yeah. Like it’s now he came very close Bo Hustler to being my villain. I think people can read between the lines now. You know, we’ve avoided something earlier on. I’m saving it late. He came very I don’t know. Did you see the ruling that he looked for an 18? Did you see this? Did you see the ruling? What are you I can’t keep you focused. Stay looking at me. Stay looking at me. Um, did you see Bo Hustler on the 72nd hole? No. I heard the ruler. Was the NBC or the golf channel cut away then? The ruling was going on. Classic American television. You’re a dodgy box watcher. I was watching on Sky. Pay me juice. So, so h No, I was watching on Sky. So, they stuck with it. And I’m actually glad that they did stick with it. I’m I’m It’s a pity the American viewers didn’t get to see what sort of a just a horrible move the hustler was trying to take take advantage of the rules. So, looking for tio uh line of sight stuff. His ball was plum square behind a tree like literally a foot from a tree. He had no root line to the green and if he wanted to go left of the tree, he had to hit like an 80 yard cut. If he wanted to go right at the tree, he had to hit the same as a hook. Impossible shots. Never on. And he looks for TIO because there’s a stand between him and the green. And he’s fighting it out with a rules official trying to say, “Well, if I play this shot, I have to go over that stand, so you have to give me a drop.” And your man’s like, “Absolutely not.” He went looking for a second opinion. Second guy came in and thankfully the ref was of strong mind and said, “Listen, you know that shot’s not on.” And stuff like that. Like he just came across as an absolute spanner. And like this tio stuff is getting a bit out of hand with guys when they’re coming down the stretch and they’re in behind trees and they’re getting tio from line of sight of something that’s not actually in their line and then playing different shots. And there’s a like it’s borderline cheating trying to cheat doing stuff like that. And even the that the the they’re getting tio now from cables that are holding up like microphones and cameras and stuff like that that are so not in their line or not out the way. And we’ve seen some really dodgy rulings coming down the stretch in tournament. I’m glad the referee held it. Now in fairness of hustler he pitched out stuck at stone dead and hold the putt for par while he was watching Keith Mitchell lay a big line of shite across the 18 grain tree jag from 34 ft like in fairness to whom he was going for but he didn’t even like he didn’t even touch the hole with his putt coming back so yeah they both got what they deserved anyway and uh they left Kevin U to hold to to lift probably the worst trophy in golf did you see the photographs of it have you seen this before No. If you don’t like what you’re seeing, why do you watch it? It’s the Sanderson Farms Open and they literally gave him a big [ __ ] as a trophy. So, he’s to kiss a big [ __ ] on the thing. It is literally like a [ __ ] as big as his head and they’re giving this and he’s to kiss this and hold it up. It’s a funny trophy. Anyone that hasn’t seen it, look it up online. You will get a chuckle from it. But yeah, I I watch it because I have to. It’s my It’s your job as well. You’re meant to be watching it. So, um but yeah, that was it. Sheamus Power. Um, good week getting away from the guys at top. Yeah, good week for Sheamus. He’s doing what he needs to do at the start of the season. 66, 67, 69, closing 66 with a bogey on the last, which believe a sour take. It was expensive. Yeah, he would have got a top 10 for that and expensive. It would have been tied for eighth at the start. It was probably worth the was worth the guts of 90 to $100,000. Not to the money, but it’s the points for him at the start of the year. Uh but no, he’s he’s he’s starting off the way you would want him, just lurking outside the top 10. Couple of nice finishes and and showing some game. Yeah, he needs to that FedEx Cup fall thing. Um he’s in that 51st to 60 60th bracket, I think it is. And if you stay in that, you get into the Genesis and the AT&T Powell Beach, which would be good. There are two signature events and he does a bit better. He might get into the sentry, I think, which sentry tournament of champions. It just is not the tournament of champions anymore, is it? Well, they’re letting Yeah, they’re letting anyone in. It’s tournament. Yeah, it is. It’s a tournament. Yeah, I know. It’s good. But, um, anything else from the PJ tour? No, it’s just boring. Every like it’s this terrible time of the year where you think, why is the PJ tour on? Why does it exist? Why does it exist this time of year? You know, you nearly wish it didn’t and that the Deep World Tour get the full spotlight this time of year cuz they have big events on. Yeah. Well, that’s the way it’s meant to be, but like these guys have too many events on. This fall series is total [ __ ] But yeah, whatever. Um, right. It’s taking me 40 minutes. Two things I didn’t mention, right? Yeah. We’ll we’ll get into the eyeolf stuff now. I’m a devil for this. These boys are putting good money into this. Flow gas. This podcast is brought to you by Flow Gas. 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They will look after you. Um, right. Nice little segue into the Golf Ireland. Golf Ireland, right? I golf. Where do we start? Where do we start? This was This was dropped in in true political fashion the day before the budget. Yeah. Yeah. Just bury it there under the FI. You’d swear there was someone involved in politics that was making these type of decisions. But, uh, yeah, there’s there’s layers and layers and layers to this. But yeah, to drop something like this in like we all knew it was coming and I want to put it on record before we get into a little debate on this. Uh I’m actually in favor of this system. I actually think it’s a good system. Um and it has worked in other regions. It has worked in like you could go New Zealand and Scotland and England and Canada and it’s grown the game and statistically it’s proven to grow the game. It’s an RNA initiative that they’re rolling out globally. I spoke to Martin Slumbers directly on this about a month ago and asked him about it and Golf Ireland have been sitting on a letter. They’ve been told this is coming. If you don’t do it, we’ll do it. It was given to them in writing well over a year ago and they know what they have to do and they’re implementing something that they feel will grow the game and so do I. And so I I want to come out of it. This is not a have a go at Golf Ireland. I’m actually in favor of this. What I’m not in favor of is the messaging around it and how they’ve introduced it and how they’ve tried to they haven’t listened to their clubs from all of the information I’m getting like the the information part of this was all one-sided. They did not get out in front of it. They let someone up in Bali Lifen like John Faren get out in front of this and John had some really valid points when he brought this up initially and uh came out and some of it might have been a bit misleaded that he came out with but at the same time he got out and he got his valid points across and Golf Ireland just seemed to have dropped the ball from a from a comms and a messaging point of view around this and have let the narrative run away from what this actually is and how it could help and that’s their fault. Yeah, because golf clubs see it as a threat and that’s not what it’s supposed to be. It’s not what it’s supposed to be. Now, for there are certain levels of threat that you can say and like it’s it’s up to us to have balance on this. It’s up to us to actually look at this subjectively from both sides and anybody that like I had a conversation with a guy who’s involved in golf last Friday um who has been involved in golf for the last decade, doesn’t have a handicap and said this is a great way in. And I’ve had a chat to another guy who didn’t know that there was a three-year exclusion period uh beforehand to get people in. Like I I just don’t see the people are coming out with all sorts of oh this is going to kill the game and this is going to close golf clubs and I just can’t see it. It’ll hurt rural clubs I think like members clubs particularly where you’re from. You’re from a good members club in the middle of nowhere. I cannot see it hurting a nice golf club. I just can’t. No. What about What about like Acratics Town out the road? Maybe. I don’t know. Like trying to attract like younger younger players. This is the one area. That is the one area that I’d actually agree with. But there was a there’s a problem there with the mid amp circle. And I read your piece um that you did uh with Eddie. Uh you got some good quotes of Eddie over in Malahide Golf Club. Eddie is a very very clever chap, very knowledgeable chat, really good uh club manager and he made some really good points about it will hurt clubs from the mid um side of things. So guys in their 30s to 40s that haven’t been a member in a club and maybe want to migrate back into golf after having their kids and and doing that and they might think twice now because there’s an easy 65 euro rather than 650 euro or if you’re looking to join a golf club in Dublin area like you’ve whatever upwards of one two grand plus joining fees in some areas. Um I agree that is one area like they those people then like they’ll be join they’ll be looking to get back into golf because their kids are six seven eight years of age. Those kids now won’t be joining golf clubs either. Yeah. No and I I agree with that and that is an area but that that is where I think this will evolve and this is where even I don’t know is there a limit on how long you can have an eye golf handicap. It didn’t say I don’t think it didn’t say. Yeah. Like that’s poor. It is poor. Like this would be an unbelievable system if they put three year beforehand you can’t and you’re only allowed to have a handicap with I golf for 5 years and we’re going to find you a golf club. Imagine how positive that would be. Like the facts of the matter are from Golf Ireland’s point of view. I like they’re being told they have to do this and they’re implementing it. There’s 200,000 registered golfers approximately in this country with Golf Ireland. yet there’s 400,000 approximate people who play golf in this country. You have to have a regulated system. You have to incorporate people in and give them an option of a handicap. And I think it’s the right thing to do for the game going forward. But I like I I I have a friend who was a really good golfer growing up and because his other sporting commitments and things, he can’t play at weekends and so what’s the point in him joining a golf club? He’ll get no value out of it. He hasn’t played in about seven seven eight years. Seven years and this would suit him down to the ground. That’s good. But like you’re going to have golf clubs now performing like sort of resistance and charging X amount for open. And I agree with that. I agree with that. But if you’re someone who’s my age, say living in Dublin, like say I live in Conceali where along like the M50 kind of strip you’ve got golf clubs to choose from coming out of your ears. Suits you down to the ground. Yeah. like 100%. Like what is Gre’s remmit to grow the game? That is the remit like that. Yeah. Like I know a lot of clubs are really really angry over the potential risks to this and I feel I’m like biging this up. I’m not. I’ve come out and I’ve been very critical about Golf Ireland about how they’ve introduced this and and like the powers that be in Golf Ireland around strategy around communications around how they have not listened to their stakeholders they have not listened to their clubs but if if they actually came out and went through this in a proper way in a in a well ststructured communication communicative manner that actually involved their clubs and showed the benefits in a realistic way I think clubs will be on board with this. Um, yeah. And and and it’s sad. It is sad because there are guys carving each other up online and like I have never seen stats like it that I did last week on our website and all of our social channels. And all you had to do was mention a name and bang, like the lights lit up. Like the stats were through the roof on people getting their backs up and some people making silly comments cuz they hadn’t clearly haven’t read. They just see they just see change like, “Oh yeah, to hell with this.” But this is the problem. They just see Golf Ireland now and they see Golf Ireland as the enemy. WHS, they didn’t learn from WHS from the messaging around that and how badly that’s been handled. And like there’s a big big problem of a I’ I’ve never known a time I’ve been working in golf 24 25 years. I’ve never known such disconnect from our national governing body towards the consumers and the paying customers that it’s there to serve and and be there for just that disconnect does not need to be there and it just this is these are all my opinions but yeah I I it’s it’s not a good place it doesn’t seem to be in a good place um from uh from a messaging point of view like they do so much good work in G Ireland and they just undermine themselves with silly things like this around just not getting their messaging out right to what this actually is. Yeah. Like even even the way like the email just it just dropped in randomly almost like it felt and this could have been announced at an AGM or or something. Yeah. Well, it was announced at an AGM and it was was serious. Even the calls they were on my clubs like it was like one-way conversations. You’re not allowed to ask any questions and stuff like that cuz they know. But it’s just a total wrong way of going about it. We could go on about this all day. And in fairness to Golf Ireland, I’ve read stuff online um and they have said no to so many things. Every question we have asked them on IGOL, they have come back and answered. Every question that we have put to them over the last month, they have come back and answered to us. They’re they’re like they’re they’re more than good to us when we ask the right questions. But it doesn’t need to be that way. It needs to be them getting out ahead of things. And that that’s my only criticism of the whole uh thing. But like I golf layered upon WHS and and uh just the mismanagement of of of how it’s implemented just seems to be you know sad. It’s sad. It’s sad to see so many people having a go at a national body. But that’s the landscape we find ourselves in. Right. We’ll draw a line under that. And it does a podcast on its own. getting a good manager and someone from Golf Ireland on to come out and and actually chat through the facts, the dos, the don’ts, the um and yeah, hopefully uh when we do reach out and at Golf Ireland, take the opportunity as they have and everything else we’ve asked them to uh get onto a platform and and actually have a proper chat. Um right, roundup. [Music] Um Stuart Gran start with Stuart Gran. Soldier has fallen. Soldier has fallen. It’s sad like it is it’s sad to see such good talented players so like that are so young moving away from the professional game but like in the other hand I think it’s a it’s such a brave thing for him to do. He’s announced he’s finished with professional golf now he’s going to explore the options of coming back into the amateur game and you know he’s a lot of change in his life in the last year. He’s going through college stuff. He’s coupled up with a company that he’s going working for now. um he will be in with us in the next week to record a podcast on just where he’s at and what his plans are and what he’s doing. But uh yeah, stepping away from professional golf looking back to the amateur side. He’s had a new baby in the house in the last 6 months as well, himself and Carla. So more power to him and it’s great to see it’s probably the toughest thing ever to step away from professional golf when because he’s so close. He’s such he’s such a good player, but he he sees a better future elsewhere. And you see guys like I’ve seen guys like Steven Brown doing this back in the day. You know, Steven Brown was a winner in the challenge tour and just walked away from golf. Just no, not for me. And he’s now got his amateur status back. He’s won some senior stuff in the last year and um yeah, he’s really good. Forged a good business career with himself, stayed involved with golf. He’s a captain out in Hermitage over the last few years as well and heavily involved in in in golf still. And yeah, there’s a there’s a good future for Stuart Greten. When you see the template that someone like um Golf Strong has done down in Cork, you know, of coming back, Peter O’Keefe was a professional, didn’t work out for him, came back to the amateur side. Stuart Gran will rack up some nice national championships if he goes along. He’s he’s a really good player and like didn’t get the Walker Cup shout first time around. Who knows? Yeah, he wants to take the hinch in 2026, but like even just he was talking to me there on Saturday and it’s just incredibly tough. Like he was bogey free at the weekend in Czech Republic and still only came T40 and pocketed just over one and a half grand. Like that’s nothing. You’re better off going. You might as well just not take not take the paycheck cuz you probably spent more already. And that’s what he’s by the time you get it. And like he he said he just gave it a go for six years and you know it hasn’t worked out. Like when you’re down at that level, like the opportunities are just they’re slim. Pickings. Yeah. And yeah, you’re like his he’s still he won on tour and no one can take that away from him. He won on the Euro Pro uh won the K Club Pro a couple of years ago as well. Like so series as well. He’s a few bulls in the collection as well like Milani Bull King. But like Yeah. So he has had some success but like he’s 31 now moving on to a new phase of his life and you just can’t keep juggling everything like he was. Yeah. No. Fair play to him. We’ll get a deeper chat with him. Um, but it’s it’s hard it is hard to know when to walk away and you look at guys his tour career was on a kind of a season by season basis for the last couple of years. Anyway, he said that said that himself and uh yeah, his goal was to win the challenger card this year. You know, obviously hasn’t done that, but he said he’s not as disappointed as he could have been if he was just completely giving up golf like he’s not. Yeah. Yeah. you know, he’s going to he will be a dangerous dangerous amateur if he gets his status back quickly. Like he will he’ll keep his eye in like he’s a he’s a top top player. Like he’s so good and yeah, he’ll do damage. Um yeah, like it’s just the the margins are so fine and when I see guys like winning on the challenge tour last week, Yuan Walker, yeah, you see him like and he lost the amateur championship final to that’s who Jimmy Sugru um beaten the final out in Port Marik in 2019. you look at the difference now like he’s he’s looking like he’s kicking on to get his full he’s won twice in the challenge tour now he’s looking like he’s going to kick on and get his full DP world tour card and uh yeah you don’t just don’t hear from James Sugru anymore at all like it’s the margins are so fine uh they really are so fine so um on fine margins Sarah Burn le access Access talk yeah this is a this was a tough one it was definitely definitely one that got away and it’s a shame that it had to come in the final event of the LE Access season. Yeah, she was I think she was four ahead at one stage late on Saturday and goes into the final round with a one shot lead and ends up coming four short. Yeah, just she made too many bogeies uh over the last I think 21 22 holes and that kind of done right with but like she’s only starting her pro career and like if you learn from that she should be pretty much okay. Yeah, she’s serious game. Yeah, she does have serious game. Did you talk to her after it? No. Did you? No. No. I think that was on Mark. That was on Mark. Okay. Yeah. Um Yeah. And then you look on the collegiate side, Anna Foster got a win um yesterday. Yeah. Great for her as well. She picked up three grand, which when you’re starting off isn’t too shabby. Yeah. Uh she shot the low round of the day and the low round of the week all at the same time to win. She buried her last two holes. Swim by two. So, what tour is this on? I don’t know. Somewhere in America. I don’t know what it is, but no, it’s good to see her. Um, it’s good to see her progressing along like in any any win is a win. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And she like she beat the women’s amateur champion from Port Marik as well, Melanie Green. So, there was a decent caliber of player playing in that. Yeah. Okay. Not one to watch. I couldn’t I couldn’t even find a trophy picture of her or or leaderboard. God, God love her. I sent you links to the leaderboard. Yeah, the 25th Mryland Women’s Open. Yeah, it was a mile a milestone year for the event. A milestone year. Irish winner. No, it’s good to see Anna Foster uh doing that. Anything else in roundup you want to hit on before we jump into heroes and villains? No, go on. Give us your give us your heroes. Well, there’s one hero for me this week. Johan Rubert having the foresight to try and speed things up in the global game. We went into it at the top end of the podcast. Um, yeah. Stand out for me. You uh I’ll think of a hero in a minute, but my my villain has to be a Bobby Mack as well. We’re on the same I know you’re you’re on the same page. Go on. Like I’ll read out the comments. So yeah, he just play better. Like just play the whole better. Like don’t double boge it on the Saturday and boge you on the Sunday. Exactly. No, drive it over the hotel. Like don’t be a [ __ ] about it. Yeah. Like so he was quizzed up by the Scotsman. I’d say it was Martin Dempster. caught up with him afterwards like it appeared all over uh social straight away. So I don’t think there were any there are many worse holes in golf he said about the 17th in St. Andrews, I think it’s a terrible hole off the back tea. It doesn’t need to be modernized uh to bring excitement. It needs to be a hole that you’re able to hit a golf shot into and not one where you just hit it into a green and try and get up and down. Like yeah, I I like that. That all depends on the placement of the pin though, doesn’t it? If you’re placing it be behind that bunker. Listen, he’s giving out about like the hole was lengthened in 2010 to 495 yards. Yes. It’s played the most difficult hole on that golf course since then and rightfully so. It need like 18th is a hen run. Yeah. You know, so like this chalk and cheese. You look at you look at the combined par in any tournament between 17 and 18 and they level themselves out. Golf course design has to be a bit of give and take. Yeah. Some people will look at the 17th as a bit gimmicky. You’re hitting over a hotel. You’re hitting down into a hole with a road at the back of it and a bunker that’s a small bunker on the front left but a massive footprint that drags balls in. Like that’s that’s design for you. That’s 17th is a class golf hole. Like it it averaged the toughest hole in the event this week. It was 4.57 strokes. It gave up just seven birdies um compared to 21 double bogeies or worse. So yeah, it is a car crash, but that’s golf. Like McIntyre giving out it almost plays like a par five. Blow it up, he said. Yeah, blow it up. Like they’ve tried to do things on this golf course that don’t need to be done. Like I don’t know. You’re losing the room, Bob. As a Scott, to come out and do that. He said while finishing tied for 25th. Yeah, but like you’re playing with your dad on the old course on a Sunday. Like get out of your own way. Like you’re losing the room. Just golf your ball and shut up. Like it there’s no there’s no need for it. There’s no need for get your picture taken on this Wilin bridge and go home with your dad. Like there’s no there’s nothing more special, you know, and playing for hundreds of thousands of dollars with your dad going around on home soil. Don’t like keep that keep those thoughts to yourself. There’s no need. There’s like he’s brought all this crap into his own inbox today and have no sympathy for him. Just cuz you feel like that doesn’t mean you come out and you say that to the media after a round. like you’re digging your own hole. Get into it. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I I agree. Um, so we’re unanimous on the here. Unim on our ven. Yeah. Jesus, poor Bob. Uh, but no, he’s gone down like Yeah, I just can’t listen to him much anymore. He’s just a bit petulant. Yeah, he’s always he’s a bit like Larry. He can be moody sometimes, isn’t he? I’m glad you said it, not me, because I’m always the one giving out about Shane sometimes. But yeah, it’s um yeah, two lads that ham up the local a bit and then yeah, just when things aren’t going your way, it’s it’s tough. It’s tough. And like they like I I totally get it came late in his round as well and Larry made comments in this last week about uh a piece that he did with Paul about having to talk to media straight after. Oh jeez, you don’t have to do it in tennis and cool down, but you’re like, “Yeah, I don’t agree with that.” Like you’re accountable. This happened to Bob McIntyre in the 17th hole. He was obviously fuming when he came in. But yeah, go for your ball and get on with it, Bob. Pierce Pierce Morgan’s my other villain as well. Did you see him? No. Ah, Jesus Christ. He was playing. Oh, was he? Yeah. In the Dunnhill. Okay. And he hits the shot and I don’t I think he got maybe a yard off the ground and went about six yards to his left and that’s as far as it got. But then he put up a tweet saying at Sky Sports Golf since you’re so obsessed with um trying to show all my bad shots. Here’s my second net eagle of the day and we’re through six ho or something. I was like, would you ever just piss off? Get over yourself, Pierce. It’s not about you. It’s a golf tournament for pros. You’re just there to make up the numbers. Uh get the viewing figures up and uh yeah. No. Right. I think that’s a wrap for this week. We’ve gone uh just over the hour mark. So, anything else to hit on? No. Good. No, I’m all good. All good. Right. Well, cheers for tuning in, folks. And again, cheers to Flow Gas for sponsoring this podcast. That’s two mentions in 15 minutes they’ve got. 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