Dan Rapaport joins PGA TOUR winner Jake Knapp for this episode of On The Bag at Talking Stick in Scottsdale, Arizona.
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I got a Dodge Demon 170. Is that like a power muscle car? Yes. 125 horsepower. And that’s it. 0 to 60 and 1.6. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It’s a rocket ship. Yeah, it’s a rocket ship. So, I love that thing. I mean, I kid you not. I put I I start that thing up. Just makes me smile. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] All right, welcome to another episode of On the Bag. We’re here at Talking Stick Golf Club in Scotsville, Arizona. I am joined by none other than Jake Knap. We’re going to do what we do on this series. We’re going to play nine holes, ball and hole like it was a tour event. Uh, how we feeling coming in round? Feeling good. You know, weather’s nice. Course looks beer. Never played here, so we’ll see what we can do. Well, we got a yardage book. We have a very good golfer. Well, you just shot 59 like a month ago. Yeah. So, I’d say the overunder for today is it is a resort course. I feel like you can hit a lot of drivers. True. I’m going to say 32 and a2. Okay, deal. I’ll accept. You ready for that? Yeah. All right. Let’s get it going. All right. First hole here. We looked at our yardage book. It’s there’s a little bunker out there. I think you can see it. It’s like 330. Okay. I think it it should be fine into the wind, right? Yeah. I mean, it’s I don’t know how into it is. It seems like it’s a little more off the right. Yeah. But yeah, I think ending it kind of on that just left of it ideally probably on the flag would be nice. Yeah. So that’s your finish line. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. That should be good. Little right. Wind’s Wind’s got it. It’s going to Yeah, it’s going to move a little left. It’s a good start. You didn’t hit that good. No, I hit it fine. A little higher than I would have liked. No breakfast bowl needed. No. So I want to start at the beginning. Okay. So you’re from Orange County. Yep. siblings, older brother, see golfer. Uh he’s a very good golfer. He just won the club championship at our home course for like the third time in four years. Did he play in college? Yeah, he played at UC Irvine. Um he turned pro and then like played some mini tour events and I honestly don’t remember if he did Q school or anything like that. He just like didn’t really love the lifestyle necessarily. Just wasn’t really travel the travel. He’s more of a homebody and enjoys spending time with uh family and friends. So, um, yeah, he’s got wife and he’s got a kid. He’s got a second one that’s going to come any day now. So, he’s happy. Your dad and I are Instagram friends. Yeah. He responds to a lot of my stuff. Y he’s got strong opinions on California Matters. Always. Of course. I love him. Is he a big golfer? Uh, no, not really. He uh he basically like took a golf class in college at OC. Um, and kind of got into it that way and enjoyed playing just casual golf with my uncle and, you know, Was it just kind of a coincidence that you and your brother got so into it? Yeah. I mean, they when I was born, they moved into a new house. I was right across the street from a public course. And then my mom’s parents had a condo out in Palm Springs on a golf course. So, we’d go out to and then my dad’s parents when they retired and moved. They moved out to Palm Springs as well and lived on this little like par three four executive thing. And uh so we just like anytime went to visit them around them. We’re just always around golf. So, it was kind of Yeah, it was around you take you take to it pretty young. Yeah. I mean, I think I played in my first tournament when I was like six. Oh wow. I think I peed my pants and then uh I uh Yeah, I started I don’t know. I think I think I just remember I remember my mom’s dad always talking about that and always saying how I like I don’t know got embarrassed or did something. Didn’t really know the rules that well. I just like enjoyed smacking it around. But yeah, I mean I started playing when I was like two and a half or three and I don’t know just kind of fell in love with it and just would go play nine holes early in the morning at the public course across the street. You know, found a really good group of guys that worked there and took care of the course. took really good care of us and they just kind of became our our family. And so, were you one of those kids who like when you were seven or eight, you knew you wanted to be a pro golfer? I mean, yes and no. I I knew I loved doing it. Like when people ask me now like when did I know? I’m like, I don’t know. I just I just know I love playing. I love practicing. And like there’s just nothing else I want to do. So, it’s just all it’s just all I do. See, that was my problem was I didn’t love practicing. I still don’t. I mean, I went out yesterday to try to get dialed for this tournament I’m playing in this weekend and I’ll hit like three good nine irons and I’m like, “Yeah, I got it.” Yeah. It’s I mean there’s days where I don’t love practicing either. Like when things aren’t going well like it’s funny sometimes when things are going really well you’re almost like yeah I could take I could take a day off you know things are going good like I don’t want to overdo it and then sometimes when things are going really bad you know I’ll either get the the itch to be like man I can’t sleep at night so I need to spend all day at the course or it’s the opposite and it’s like man maybe I just need a breather but usually uh usually don’t take much time off. I’m kind of a bit of a range rat and enjoy practicing. you I mean I think now everyone I don’t know if it’s just the hair the California everyone thinks of you as like a really chill person on the golf course. I think that’s from what I’ve seen that’s pretty accurate. Yeah. What were you like as a as a kid? Like what was your temperament? So hot. I ran so hot. I mean I still do like I still get so frustrated. I still get still get upset slam clubs do whatever. But at the same time like you know I’m just I’m not one of those people that’s like oh it’s just golf. Like no it’s like it’s a big deal. Like yeah I worked really hard to get here. like, you know, I I care a lot about it. I I put a ton of time into it, so I’m think I’m allowed to care. 100%. But no, when I was a kid, my uh my coach used to call me a bunch of different nicknames, Stenmark and like Wall-E and all these different things and just had to do with like basically different things that things that had to do with getting really upset. Like I would slam clubs, throw clubs, just just throw hissy fits all the time. So that took a probably a little bit longer than it should have to grow out of. 79 yards. That was a perfect T- shot. Yeah. About 15 yards short of the bunker. So, I probably went about 315. Okay. Looks like a green light special. Man, this is a resort pin. This is a promand pin right there. Yeah. This is a This is a dead center of dead center pin. I was going to say no excuses. Don’t see many of these on tour. How far is it? 70 79 yards. 79. A little into the wind. You play for maybe a a little bit of bounce. Yeah. I mean, I’m going to hope that they’re not spongy. I don’t This course doesn’t look super soft. So, fingers crossed we just get like a hop and stop. What? This fairway is in pretty good shape. This It’s pure. Yeah, this is really good. This is that time. This is the best time of year for Arizona in my year and a half of living here. Sit, sit, sit, sit, sit, sit, sit. All right. Nice soft bounce. Take that. It’s interesting what you said about putting a lot of time in. So, I play a lot of golf with like some guys who didn’t make it. Yeah. uh you know they played in college and then it didn’t work out and I think there’s such a bitterness because you donate so much time to this game. Yeah. Especially you know you play like high level division one college you know you put like 20 years of it in and then it can just be so cruel in return and then you get to a point where you’re not playing anymore and you’re like well you never had got to this point but it’s like what do I what do I do now? Yeah. I mean for me like I just always spent every day all day at the golf course and like there were definitely times when I was you know still in mini tours or Canadian tour whatever it might be not really playing very well that I’m like what am I like what am I doing like I’m still spending all this time and like it doesn’t really show that I’m getting any better you know I’m not really getting the results that I want but then like you know at the same time I’d play with guys like whether it was Brian or guys who were a level above me and then I would play just as well as them or I could compete with them and I’m like okay so it’s obvious that like the game is there. Just have to like figure out why it’s not when I need it to be or whatever it is. Place is like sneaky kind of firm. Ended up in a pretty good spot. Yeah. So, how are you on the greens? Are you like an aimoint guy or are you kind of a field guy? I’m a combination of both. I learned a point super early on. Um I think I’ve got my first lesson in it in like 2014 or 15 or something like that. Yeah. So I use regular Apoint then I learned a point express. Um and then now I’ve used it for so long like I kind of use my ownish system. The nap the nap. Yeah. Just like I I just realized that I like for a while I was trying to be like way too perfect. Um, and so now I use it to get me in like a general area and then and then go and play off my own feel from there. Do you line it up? No, I I line it up every once in a while, but like lines just give me the heebie-jies. I’m not I’m honestly just not good at lining it up. Like I’ve practiced for so long and I’ll I’ll do it on like I do it when I practice a lot because it gives you good feedback on you see if it’s rolling under. Yeah. Line and speed. But in tournaments I tend to get like really fixated on the line and then I have bad speed or vice versa. So this is this is outside the hole. It’s going to break. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s probably I mean like I think personally it’s probably just outside of ball kind of pending pending speed. But I’m like a high like find the high point guy and then just I I see like straight putts and then things straight putt to a to a high point working off from there. Good start. One for one. Can’t birdie them all if you don’t birdie the first. Ain’t that true? Right in the right in the red right away. Good. I’ll take it. I love it. That was easy. Yeah, something like that. I got a little bit of a a road hole situation here. Yeah. Little bit of don’t go left. I was going to say, you know, I wasn’t going to say it. I like I’m a positive caddy. You got it. You got We got a lot of room to the right. You have to acknowledge it. You know, my depth perception’s bad on Newport. This is what This is what it looks like allegedly. Is that just a field? Oh my god. Yeah. See, like so when I see those like just I’m just trying to pick a tree out and be like, “Yeah, that seems about where driver go.” And then it’s 400 yards. I’m like, “Okay.” So So you really you’re very target oriented somewhat. I I like to frame it. So like I’ll use my finger sometimes. Okay. To like give me an idea. Like a narrow fairway is like one finger. Like a normal fairway is like just inside two. So you hold it like this? Yeah. So I’ll hold it like that. So sometimes if I get on like either really wide fairways or something and I’m like, “Oh my god, there’s so much to aim at.” I’ll like hold up two fingers and just be like, “Okay, well like that’s a point and that’s a point and like we’re going to focus on that.” Got it. So So you’ve got is it like that uh sort of the the peak of not not the really pointy mountain, but the one left of it. Left of it. Yeah. Exactly. So you see like I’ll go off of like the tree line like the tallest little puff in the trees. Yeah. That that’s kind of like I would say center or exactly where I was looking. Yeah. So I’ll do stuff like that. It just helps narrow the focus a little bit. Bomb’s away, though. Anti. All right. That’ll probably be fine. So, when you shot 59 is were you just like in another dimension? It was just like I mean, not yes and no. Like, it was one of those where I’ve shot 58 at my home course. I’ve shot 60 or 61 a couple times in like in a US Open qualifier. I shot I think 60 or 61, but yeah, I only shot I never shot 59 before. I shot 58. Shot 58 in my home course. The public went across the street. It’s par 70, but I made two bogeies. So, it was an interesting day. Yeah. Couple eagles and I started off like bogey birdie birdie bogey and then proceeded to shoot 12 from there. But it was but that one like at PJ National like it was one of those where it’s like oh man you know that the conditions were perfect like weather was better than anything you could ever imagine. It was like high 60s low 70s with absolutely zero wind. I knew when I walked out of my I was staying with my agent that week at his place and uh there were like the you know streets were wet cars had water all over them and I was like oh that’s more than like sprinkler do like that that’s definitely like it rained last night. So I was like the course is going to be soft and I was like a little worried te off the first hole we were just going to get mud balls all morning but it was like perfect. The course was just dry enough and same time just receptive enough where you could just kind of take that aim. You weren’t going to get any shots that like ran away from you and then uh and I was just hitting it good. Like the first hole I hit it right over the flag and then the second hole I made like a little mental mistake and didn’t hit a great one. But then pretty much everything from there on in was like ball striking was just a 10 out of 10 that day. So that round was like a plus 14. Yeah. Index. That’s like guys were like, “Oh man, you’re unconscious with the putter.” And I was like, “No, I hit everything to four feet.” Do you uh do you have a handicap? Did you would like Have you ever had a handicap? Not really. I mean, I have one that like, you know, I don’t think had has had like a score added to it in I don’t even know how long to be honest with you. Um, but I’m probably like a I played like a plus six most of the time. I was going to say I’m roughly scratched and want four side. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s I’m thinking plus eight. Yeah, plus eight. Yeah. So at my home course, it’s funny. They let me judge based on like how the greens are at that time. If the greens are really good, I feel comfortable to play into a higher, you know, plus six, seven, eight, whatever. If the greens aren’t good, then I’m like, well, like that’s my main advantage is like I’m going to be able to make those like 8, 10, 12 footers. Yeah. And if I don’t, then like I don’t want to. Well, your brother’s obviously a very good club player. How many do you give him? Uh he’s like a I want to say I give him like two and three or three and three sometimes. So depends where we’re playing. If it’s somewhere where I’ve been and he hasn’t something like that where I feel like I have the the leg up then maybe I’ll give him a couple more if we’re playing at our home course and yeah usually like two and three something like that. Do you play golf for fun still? Yeah, for sure. I uh I mean not often like I spend so much time in Arizona now and I don’t have any friends or family out here so like 90% of the time I’m just pretty much working. Yeah. Um but yeah when I go home we usually try to do like a a little boys trip every year where we just like you know they come out and visit me here or we just try and go out to the desert for three or four days and just go like play golf non-stop for three days straight. What do you do in the summer here? I guess you’re traveling. I go I go back to California. So like June, July, I still have a place that I rent with some buddies and and we come and I just go and hang out with them and you know spend some time around my family. When does it get unbearable here? Like like mid May, late May. In May, it can get hot, but it’s not unbearable. I would say like June for sure. Like once June hits, it’s it’s probably pretty nasty. Yeah, I stayed too late last year. I stayed until like Fourth of July last year. Oh, that’s really late. Yeah, I was. You don’t want to see July? No, not really. Not here. Where do we end up? It run off, right? Yeah. I think it’s in the native area over here. 325 yards to unknown. That’s what it would say on shot tracker. Oops. Yeah. I didn’t know there were ropes out here. Yeah, I know. We’re just We got a tour setting. See, we’re keeping the gallery out. Well, this will be interesting. What a creative What an opportunity. This will be interesting. I like that. An opportunity. Should we shoot the V gap? And so that’s where my head went. But if you were playing in a tournament, would you just hit wedge over it? Probably or would you just punch a little cutter? I’d try to get something up around the green. It’s a par five, isn’t it? It is a par five. Yeah. Isn’t part of social construct? Yes and no. You view it like you play a par five differently than if it was a par4. Um, no. Like I think if this was a par4 or a par five, I’d be trying to do the same thing. I just like I think regardless just how I play, I tend to play a little bit more aggressive from trouble. Like I know I can I I trust myself, I guess, is the best way to put it. Yeah. And so if I see something and I know I I really believe it, then like I’ll hit it. If I have any sense of doubt, then I won’t. But So what do you see here? I mean, I think just like the angle of the green, if I So like if I hit it if I hit it right, you’re just accepting the fact that it’s going in those bunkers or short rights somewhere. Yeah. Don’t exactly know what’s left. It’s just a fence. Yeah. But like a lie like this should spin more and be easier to, you know. Yeah. You can get to the back of it. Get to turn. Yeah. So, like think going left and just hitting like a little wiper and trying to get it to right on top of it. Yeah. Maybe run up on the green somewhere. I like that. What was the number? 192. You thinking like a like a turn down like a sixiron? Oh, no. We’re cutting it. So, we’re hitting we’re going the opposite way. So, we’re going left to right to give it like the opportunity to run up the angle of the green. So, probably little pitchy four. And it’s not really like I mean it’s just low enough where like maybe I could hit a five iron and hit a little bit more of a normal shot. But now I feel like I’m relying too much on like making a big swing, hitting it well, all that sort of stuff. So this just allows me to hit a forearm. Yeah. At something like 170. See it slice. Wind should help us. Gall shot. Stay left. Might be a little little firm or do you think it caught the bunker? I think just in the bunker. Yeah, that was a good shot though. Yeah, it was nice. You were like fully aware though about the 59. Like you were you knew exactly what was happening. I did. Yeah. I mean like yes and no. Like immediately when I was 500 through the first five or whatever it was. I was like, you know, how many times have I gone off to a hot start or just any golfer in general and then you kind of cool off and you shoot four under or six under or whatever. So, I was like, I got out of my own way and I was just like, I know I’m hitting it well. Like, I’m just going to go execute every shot the way I know I can. And also knowing that like it’s Thursday and like you just want to go and shoot as low as you can. You just want trying to put yourself in position for the week. And uh so I kind of just put it behind me and then going into the back nine like birdie 10, made a good putt on 11 and then like barely missed one on 12, made another one on 13, stuck it on 14, and then when I made it on 15, that was the first putt and only putt of like length that I made all day. It was like 30 feet from the middle of the green. I was like, man, okay. Like you can even tell like when I make it, I was like, “Oh boy, this is happening.” Now, now we’re here. And so, well, you had a pretty decent look for 58, didn’t you? It was like 20. I had like look for a 57. Yeah, like I hit I hit one on 16. I hit one 16 to like 20 feet. I tried to like cut a pitching wedge. It just fell straight and I had like 20 feet left and I just missed it. Then 17 I hit it to like 10 feet and it 90°ree lift out. And then 18 I hit it to like 18 20 feet Yeah. But I was very much not trying to make that putt. Like I like I was trying to make it, but at the same time like I have written in my yardage book that like that putt is fast. Like going to the back of the green and I knew from last year and just practice rounds that like I wasn’t trying to hit it six feet by threeack three whack for 60 would have been really brutal. That’s tough to sleep at night. So it was very much just like all right let’s see if we can play it high enough and dye it in. It’s got to be 60 right? Oh yeah. Are you 60 everywhere around the green? Not really. I mean, when overseed like this, yeah, maybe I tend to be a little bit more, but I like to I’m not really somebody that likes to rely on spin really. Yeah. So, I tend to use spin when I have to, but I usually try to just kind of let it trundle out and do its thing. This is some powdery sand you probably don’t see that much of on tour. A little a little dusty. Yeah. Got some rocks in here. It’s going to be okay, though. Probably got to land a little short right. It’s a little crunchy, actually. Yeah. crunchy. Seems like Yeah, it’s almost kind of crunchy on the top layer, which would be nice, but that can be deceiving. Just got a minefield over here on this side of the green. What do you mean? A lot of rocks. Got to avoid them. Yeah, I think we’re going to No, we’re going to hit the right one. They’re all there for a reason, you know. Little bank shot. Yeah. Oh, that is dusty. Sit. Set. Little chunk and run. Yeah, it was a little little a lot more sand than I thought. So, you know, usually for these videos, I stress about the rake job, but I feel like uh I’m This place can’t do it. I’ll just give it a courtesy little swipe. There might as well be a sign next to a bunker that says raking optional. Yeah. You got good form, though. You know what you’re doing. The low the low handle is the key. Oh, yeah. You ever watch Bones rake a bunker? It’s an art form. It’s magical. How’s uh how’s Mikey’s rake skills? He’s pretty solid. He takes his time. He’s very He’s He’s very very aware that he does not does not want to mess somebody else up. I mean, it’s super important, right? It’s it’s kind of interesting. Like I feel like I remember when I told my wife and she was asking about that, she was like, “Wait, they don’t there’s not someone who like ras it for everybody.” I was like, “No, they leave it up to She’s like, “Well, what if what if they do a bad job?” I’ve asked people about that. She’s like, “What if we just had like people who stand next to the green and their job is just to rake bunkers?” It’s like having somebody under a basketball hoop and it Yeah. They they get the sweat. Yeah. And like it’d be it’s a similar idea. Like I don’t know why we wouldn’t do something like that, but seems logical. But I guess you guys are good at it. Yeah. I mean they’re they’re pretty good. It’s just the tough thing is when you get Monday qualifiers and people like that who maybe have a buddy on the bag who, you know, they might get nervous and just mess something up or they just don’t really understand how to do it because there is like a particular way how to rake. I mean there’s no there’s no eye quite like a player when he gets in like a bad rake job. you well like because you always rake like little things like or the main thing like you always rate going towards the pin like you don’t like even if it’s a convenient way to walk right out this way like you always rake going towards the pin so if you get caught in somebody’s groove at least like you’re going with the grooves and not against them like if you go against them it’s like a half plug lie totally so like if you walk in and see that you’re just like like what are we doing similar putt to the last just I was going to say probably a little less break this for me would be like a Yeah, I think that seems right. Kind of rolling through here. So, like sometimes on shorter putts, I I trust my eyes that like I’ve hit a million putts. So, like if I was standing right here just trying to make it like I would start it just left the center from here, I’d probably go like on the edge or just outside. So, almost reading it in reverse. Yeah. Just like helps me feel like the putts shorter than it actually is. Very nice. All right, two red. Two for two. Let’s get it going. I’m feeling something low, Jake. It gets a little narrow there. This is 250, but again, it’s 450. So, if you’re feeling good with driver or maybe What are you thinking here? Like over the right side of that bunker? Yeah, moving driver. Yeah, I’ll do that. I mean, listen, we want to shoot the lowest score possible. I like it. I like it. So, I have like some different driver swings, though. Like, I have like, you know, full send driver. I have like choke down and all that sort of stuff. So, what will you hit here? I’ll hit I’ll hit a little bit more of like a fairway finder for me. So, what how do you what’s the adjustment that you make to hit that shot? I choke up a little bit. Um, aim a little bit more left. The feel for me is like I take it outside a little bit more and like, you know, if I were imagining anything, like I just imagine I’m hitting like down on the outside of the ball. So, like it should produce that little like squeeze cut, low cutter. So, increases spin a little bit, launches lower. Um, you know, it’s just it’s always been like a kind of a comfort shot for me that I feel like, you know, when I’m hitting that thing well in the 14 holes, even if I’m hitting driver 14 times in a course, I’m probably still hitting that thing like 8, nine, 10. But that’s probably still one low 180s ball speed, right? Yeah. It’s like usually like 78 to 80. And then, you know, it’s on a firmer course like this too, like it can roll out a lot. So sometimes it gets around similar number basically. Right. I like it. Oh, too much cut. Sit down. Sit. Little block. Look like it pitched on top. Yeah, it got over it. It’s just a little rut. So like, you know, that’s that’s okay. Little swing flaw. How much are you working on the swing like in the middle of the season? Um, I mean I’m constantly working on it to be honest. Like I I think for me I I usually tend to like I’m always trying to like move the needle. So like for me I like to shape it both ways for the most part. So I’m always making the stats guys like throw up in their mouth. What’s that? You’re making the stats guys. I’ve just I’ve just never been like a one window person. Like I’m a lot more like you know hooking it and cutting. Like I grew up in a really short treeline dog leg golf course. So you had to shape the ball a lot. Like the third hole is like 290 yards in a straight line to the green, but it’s like a 90 degree dog leg, so you got to slice it. And the next one’s like 340, but it’s 45 degree dog leg to the left. So it’s like you got to hook it. And so I just grew up like, you know, thinking that that’s what you had to do. I wasn’t just going to hit like a five iron out to the right and then go hit something else and whatever. Um, and I’ve always tried to make my practice like as tough as I can on myself. So when I get into a tournament, it feels easy. So that’s I want to ask you about that because I that’s when I told you when I get bored I hit like three nine irons where I’m looking and I’m like I got it. Yeah. You gamify your practice for sure. So that’s that’s like the main thing I think that I really the tournament like stuff or tournament prep aside with my stats guy like Cory I really like is that he kind of builds my practice for me now a little bit or at least gives me you know like we just went through like our quarterly review of certain areas that are getting better or certain areas that maybe aren’t as good. And I don’t have a ton of data. I just have last year basically. Um, but you know, if there’s like a certain distance range that I’m struggling with or you know, wedges or from the fairway. So, give me an example like what have you what’s been like strugging right now? Uh, right now like I’ve made improvements like last year I wasn’t as good from like 125 to 175 as I thought I was. Like I thought that was always a strength and last year I just for whatever reason wasn’t very good. And so starting this year that’s been really really good. The only distance gap that’s gone down like 0.1 something, whatever, has been like 200 to 250. And so that’s like five and four iron basically for me, maybe a little bit of fivewood, but um and that’s an area I knew I was struggling with. So I was like, “Okay, that makes sense.” Like I I I’m well aware. Yeah. Like I’m well aware on some of these longer par 3s. I haven’t been hitting as solid. And so a little bit more intention into something like that. And then, you know, like random putting gaps like for me from like 12 to 18 feet for whatever reason or 12 to 20 feet. uh my pace hasn’t been as good. So like we can look and see where all my misses are on some of those putts and like there’s just too many putts that are like just short of the hole basically from that distance. So it’s like something as simple as doing a little bit more speed work and making sure we just get it there. Um, but in terms of golf swing, like sometimes when you’re looking at stats, it’s easy just to be like, you know, oh, you know, you’re not you’re not hitting it good or not doing this. But sometimes it’s like, oh, maybe it’s a maybe it’s a club switch or maybe you did switch something and like, hey, that switch is not working out or maybe it is. So, like one thing I’ve been trying to kind of figure out and get more dialed in is a forearm that’s like a little bit bigger, easier to hit, goes a little bit higher, and um, you know, just something that I feel like I don’t have to like work hard to hit basically. par three club. Yeah, like there’s a there’s just a ton of shots, you know, on shorter par fives, I usually have that like 230 number into a green. So, there’s just a lot of shots that fall in that in that bubble. Um that would be nice to just feel more comfortable over because there’s certain distances that everybody has that they’re like licking their chops over and there’s other ones where they’re just like, “Ah, man.” Do you have a wedge number where you’re like, “This is this is it, baby. I’m going right at it.” I kind of have like a like a wedge swing like I work on a little bit of a clock system. Oh, so Bryson status. somewhat. I mean, mine’s very different. Like, now I’ve used it for so long that like mine’s not really a clock. It’s more about like where my hands are in relation to like my body. So, it’s like bottom of my chest, shoulders, top of my head, that sort of thing. Um, so with your back swing, I was going to say the clock system, you might like you have like 1:30 in the morning. Yeah. 9 like 9:00 to me has never been nine o’clock. Like my nine o’clock feel is most people’s like 10:30, right? So, that’s why the clock system didn’t make sense. And I also play with a bent left arm. So I never understood like, oh, if I play with a bent left arm, like am I talking about like the direction of shoulder to elbow or elbow to wrist? So like I didn’t make sense. So I changed the system like early on last year and like my wedges immediately improved and it was yeah, it was pretty substantial. So I uh yeah, I try to try to be mindful what the stats say, but then also what you feel is important. So So do you always practice with a launch monitor though? for the most part. Yeah. I have days where I just go like have uh should be right here. Where is it? Oh, where? Um I have days where I’ll basically like only be focusing on a swing movement. So like for me like the one thing is like we’ve worked on my like where my head goes. Like I tend to my head tends to like go back and down a little bit. So trying to stay a little bit more centered. So I’ll have days where I just hit a couple hundred balls where I just don’t let my head move. Man, this got just down here in a hurry. I got 102. 102. Does that sound right with the eyeballs? You said you’re uh, you know, that perception guy. Sounds right. You say you don’t trust anyone. You can trust trust but verify. You I’ll trust but verify. Okay. I appreciate it. Uh cuz I also want to know what the cover is on that bunker. So this is where uh it might actually help in a tournament. The rangefinders. Yeah. not having to walk it off when you’re offline and like there’s no sprinkler heads around you. Courses are really inconsistent with like how far did you say it was? 102. Okay. Um, is that what you got also? Yeah. Okay. The uh the courses we play one for one. The courses we play are like they’re well marked, but some of them there’s just not as many sprinkler heads, so they’re not as well marked. Um, so it it will be nice like you know. What is that? You want to see that? It’s like a little decade chart type thing. Yeah, it’s our IQ. Yeah, sorry. I’ll say that again. This little This is your two RQ chart. So, like this is based on like, you know, if the pin’s like a red light, yellow light, green light, that’s basically how many paces you’re going to aim away from the edge of the green based on like how bad the short-sided miss is. Does that make sense? Yeah. So, yeah. So, like if I if it’s 125 and there’s a hazard left, as close as you’ll get is 10 yards to the end of the That’s your target. Target’s 10 yards off the So, 30 feet. Yeah. So if that So if the pin is five off the left, you’re going to aim five yards right of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. So what is this one? So I mean this one I’m I’m looking at the wedge numbers. These are my wedge numbers down here. So bottom, chest, shoulder, 10:00, stock. Those are like just my four hole numbers and then I work off of those. So like we have 102 going to land it short. So it’s like somewhere around a 57 uh 57 degree shoulder shot. Or you could do the other one, but you like the you you don’t want to hit the the 53. You don’t want to hit like that’s too off speed. 53 is just Yeah. Just with this tree and that if anything this is going to want it to come out a little bit lower with a wedge like that. Got it. So I want I want a little bit more height so I don’t have to worry 56 shoulderish. Yeah. And then I would say, you know, and then you like So if that’s 94 and that’s nine yards short, then like we’re probably a little bit into the wind. Like I can I work off like quote unquote like energy into the ball. So like eight out of 10 effort, nine out of 10 effort, that sort of thing. So like if most of my wedges are an eight energy, then like I might give this just a tad more because we’re into the wind and this is going to spin a good amount. Okay. So 8.5 energy. Yeah. 90 like a shoulder shoulder 56. And then I mean I have a lot of stuff like I’ll widen my stance if I want to hit it a few yards farther. I’ll narrow my stance if I want to hit a few yards shorter. Just a whole You got a lot going on up there. Oh, there’s a lot there’s a lot a lot more up here than blonde hair. Oh, it did come out low. Yeah. What have you noticed the the biggest difference between um cornfairy courses and big big tour courses? There’s penalty on PJ Tour courses. Yeah. Like there’s there’s some tough corn ferry courses that we play. Well, I remember you guys the the one you play in Indiana looked like the hardest course in America. It’s brutal. Yeah. Like the it’s it’s one of the few that we play that actually has like really thick rough uh Oh, red ants. Careful. Um has thick rough like decently narrow fairways like undulation change, dog legs, blind shots, a lot of water. Like it’s just a really good golf course. Like we always say that course, um, Ohio State’s golf course, Scarlet course. Those are those are like the tests of like, you know, these are going to these are getting you way more tour ready. Like those could host tour events no problem. But like the one they’re playing this week, everyone like it’s like 600 cut. I remember when there’s no rough. The fairways are 100 yards wide. When we did your event at uh Glen Club, it was like 600 cut. Yeah, Glen Club’s like it’s funny like that place you can get into trouble so easily when it gets windy but like if you keep it in play off the tea a lot of those holes like the pins everything filters towards the pin it feels like funnel season. Yeah. So it’s like that’s not a place where I hit a lot of drivers cuz like you’re really just keeping in between the mounds and then you just have a bunch of wedges. So the par 3 is really good. The finishing stretch is awesome. Like that 17 is really really good. But sometimes it’s tough when you play a course that like doesn’t have a lot of trouble and then you set up to this like 190 yard par three into the wind water left. You’re just not ready for it. Yeah. You’re like, “Wow, this is a bit of a shock.” Where did this come from? So that ended up pretty good. Yeah. I mean, so much of golf is distance control, I feel like. For sure. Like that wasn’t that was probably well right of where you were looking. Yeah. But it’s the right number and it’s probably what 15 ft. Yeah, exactly. Tiger always said just getting it pin high. It’s like the best players in the world are pin high. Oh, that was not your best. Not my best. That was high left. I always give Mike my caddyy crap because he’ll hate me for this, but he uh he sometimes struggles catching it and he’s a big baseball guy. Grew up playing just not just the hand eye’s not there sometime like he says he’s like sometimes when you think about catching it, you have a tougher time catching it. Yeah, you it’s it’s an athletic motion. If you just react, no problem. And like there’s a few times where he try to catch it in the towel, but like his mind doesn’t really know what and it’s like it’s really really funny. Some guys freaking whip it in. Like I I am not that guy. I usually shoot it to them like a basketball. So, a little more break. Yeah. I got it kind of over the right edge of this old cup. Is that Is that not enough break? You think? We’ll see. I mean, this is feeling like feeling like it’s sniffing a three, but we’re going to get it just less for slower greens. So, you had it over that. I had it over kind of the right side of that old cup. Looks like a lot from here, though. Yeah, it’s it’s like should start just right of that and then the second half it should snap down pretty good. Yeah, it gets quick past the hole. Yeah, but I like that. That’s a good That’s a good eye on my first rodeo. I mean, we’ll see if it’s good. I mean, also have to hit it online. That’s the other thing. Second half should break. Oh, you lit. High limp. You hit the You hit the good putt, huh? Yeah, it was a good putt. We’ll blame that on something else other than me. What was that stat? It was like 30% of perfect putts don’t go in. Yeah. Have you ever seen that thing they do with a perfect putt? Yeah. It’s really depressing. If I was you as a professional golfer, that would give me nightmares. That’s why like you just all you can control, you can control. whatever else happens. Like, you know, you do your best to commit what you’re trying to do as long as like that’s what you know, you want to go to sleep at night knowing that you did everything you could and not leaving any like what if. Okay. Interesting little hole here. Seems like a lot of funkiness going on. A lot of funkiness. We’re going to call in Googler for this one. I think it’s a Googler for him. All right. See what we got. It’s 240 to carry that bunker. And then it looks like on the left it gets a little bit short. There’s way more room on the right. So yeah, the fairway is like a double fairway from 270 to like 315 and then all of a sudden So this is here’s my issue with my dryer. Like that’s right. We’re going to fly it at 326 330. Imagine having that issue where you just fly 326. I don’t I don’t But at the same time, so here’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to go like this. I’m going to see how far that is. It’s 50 yards. I trust myself to hit the 50 yard bunker shot. You like the the send here? If it Yeah, if it happens to get up there in the dirt somewhere, it’s fine. But kind of the right half of that like just right of where the bunker’s at its highest. Yeah, I think see that V tree right of it. V tree like the little U tree, like the little cutout left of the green. Yeah, like there’s a guy in the in the distance to the right of him. Yep. I know what you’re talking about. So like you can see the pin. Do you like the pin or you saying just left of that? I cannot see the pin, but that might be my color blindness. So, if you see the tree line in the distance, there’s a tree way out there to the right that’s kind of flat top and drops straight down. The pin’s right on the left edge of that. I like a little left of that. Okay. Yeah. Right. So, in between that and then like the little Christmas tree out to the left. Basically splitting those two. There we go. That was better. Yeah. That’s just taking the wind a little bit left. Sit. You think it’s in that bunker? No, I think we’ll big cop. N I don’t know. We’ll find out. We’ll find out. It’s a little bit left. So, I know you said that you were like from six years old you were playing tournaments. Were you a big like watch golf golf history guy? Yes and no. Like I I loved I loved watching for the most part, but not really. I wasn’t like a sit still well person. like I like I played every sport growing up so like I I usually wasn’t really inside watching too much. Like if Tiger was in contention, obviously we’re always locked into that. Um but I I’ve never been the biggest historian or the best at remembering all that stuff. Yeah. Well, the reason I asked was like did you watch Rory last week? So I made it a point not to watch anything or have anything to do with last week until probably the last like basically the back nine because it just hurt not playing. Yeah, I was I was upset about it. So, you know, I just had I didn’t play great at the second half of last year and then I played like okay the start of the season, but you know, I want to play in that and after experiencing it once and like you know, you get the first time under your belt and like now I feel like I know, you know, you know what to expect and all that sort of stuff. Not only with the Masters but just with like tour life in general. So, yeah, of course I wanted to I wanted to be there playing. So it just, you know, not to say playing in it ruined the Masters for me cuz like every other year leading up to it, I would sit down and the Masters is the one tournament I actually would sit down and watch all of it. Yeah. And then this year I didn’t watch any with the exception of while I was practicing on Sunday, which for anybody that doesn’t know, the best time to go to a golf course is Sunday afternoon during the Masters. It’s probably empty. There’s zero people there. So I was at Whisper Sunday just beating balls in the back of the range. And then when I saw my group text going off about everything, I just put a headphone in and I listened to the back nine while I just went and practiced and played. You’ve played with him in a couple tournaments, right? Yeah. Is it just like uh I mean I know like you said, you’re not the biggest history buff, but is there a part of you that’s like I’m playing with an all-time great right now? Thousand%. Yeah. I mean, especially because like I didn’t like, you know, it’s not that like getting on tour was like a quick thing or out of nowhere or whatever, but at the same time, it’s like to go from playing in Canadian tour events a year and a half prior to then all of a sudden playing with Rory Maroy like was a little bit of a shell shock. But that being said, it was also compared to everything else I was doing like that week or dealing with the week before, that was like the most calm I was. It was right after you won. Yeah. Yeah, like that was the most cuz like you know you’re doing press conferences and everybody wants to do this and that whatever and then when I finally got to hit the first T-shot it was like oh like nice I get to just go play golf now like so it was it was like the easiest part and we had really good conversation the entire time like he was he was great some nice things about you that week. Yeah. Yeah, you did. So yeah, I enjoyed it and like now you know I wouldn’t say we’re close friends by any means but like we’ll sit have lunch and we’ll chat and um yeah he’s he’s been great to me. when you play with those guys, you know, the Scott, have you played with Scotty? I haven’t yet. Okay. But you’ve played with Rory and I’m sure you played with, you know, a lot of these other top guys. What sticks out about their game where you’re like, “Okay, I need I need to get to that level.” Um, I mean, overall, like just circumference of golf shots is usually just a little bit tighter. Um, the misses. The misses. Yeah. Like misses are just tighter. Like they just tend to hit it in smaller windows. And then, you know, they just never seem to hit like two bats bad shots in a row almost ever. Um, and they don’t really ever go in like bad stretches for the most part. Like there’s always there’s always like the outliers of like certain times when this and that happened, but like for the most part like everything’s just so solid. And like you can also tell like their expectation is they hold themselves to a very high standard. Like especially Rory, it’s like you know, he hits a certain iron shot from like 190 yards to like 22 feet and you’re just he’s just like, dang. Like you know, and it’s like I mean like statistically that’s a really good that’s a really good shot. like there’s a lot of people who would love to love to hit that. Um, but yeah, I just think overall consistency and and just like hitting it solid and like no just no real weak points. Like obviously he hit a couple like poor wedge shots on Sunday, but like even he was talking about how nervous he was on Sunday, you know what I mean? Like everybody knows well I mean trying to complete the career and stuff. Yeah. Like there’s so much and like as much as you try to like eliminate that stuff and get it out of your head like when people ask like oh what would I shoot you know at Augusta if I’m going to scratch call whatever it’s like it’s so impossible like if you’re going to go be able to grip the club. Yeah. If you’re going to go out there by yourself like and there’s nobody there then that’s maybe one thing but if you’re going to be playing in that environment you have no chance in shooting anything halfway decent. Yeah. Yeah. The nerves are a real thing. Yeah. Well we got some shaping to do. All right. So, we got 75 flag. I’ve got 63 front edge. 6375. That’s pretty perfect. Okay. 75. Will you have to flight something to kind of keep it below this branch or it should be fine? I shouldn’t I mean, I’ll be mindful of it, but I don’t have to worry too much. I mean, realistically, it kind of looks like one of those where we don’t want this flying too far. It kind of flattens out towards the hole. Yeah. Yeah. So, I’d probably rather have it like land just on and then skip back there. I like that. So, 63 you said, right? 63 was Yeah. Big hop. Big hop. Kind of chewed into the hill a little bit. Yeah. I thought it would get a little little more skippy. I like that low one though. Yeah, it was nice. I feel like that’s one thing also that I see uh when people ask me like the difference between pros and good amateurs is like I feel like you guys hit a lot of lower wedge shots. Yeah. Like a lot of a lot of good amateurs, they just throw it way up in the air. Yeah. That was something I actually I worked with a different coach for a little while when I was on Corn Ferry the first time and that was one thing that he said is like I just I literally couldn’t fly to wedge. We were hitting balls out of like a um outside of like a garage or like you know basically in a hitting bay I should say and he like closed the door like halfway and he’s like here get it out and I was just like yeah no problem. I go to and I’m hitting off a mat so it’s like a little different but at the same time I’d like go to deloft this thing and hit it and just bang and just like bang around the room. He’s like try again. And I’m like oh my god like how do you do this? And then, you know, he showed me with a couple or whatever and I got it down pretty quick, but it was like, wow, that’s like a shot I really don’t Yeah. like don’t have enough to, especially hit on a course. Like, if I wanted to hit it low, I just take more club and chip it, right? Like I didn’t have the option to hit that like that situation right there. I would have just taken like a 56 and just kind of hoped for the best. There’s just not much not much bad that can happen when it’s tight like that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that usually means you have like less moving parts like your you know, your hands are usually really stable. All right. Not as close as we’d like, but still a look. Yeah. Or just wanted to work on your, you know, 18 to 25 ft. That that 12 to 18 mark. That’s speed. Work on a little bit of speed. So far so good. Slightly uphill. Slightly left to left to right for the most part. Or what are you seeing? Yeah, I mean it looks like it’s going to come off that bunker at least in the beginning. Yeah, this part does not feel like much. I think it’s pretty straight at the hole. And maybe even might even try to kind of trying to almost go the other way. Almost go the other way. I would I would probably play it like two balls. Two balls. What do you think? See, I’ll tell you. Yeah, I think that sounds about right. I think maybe just inside that just because this first part you’re hitting it hard enough, right? The ball is going to kind of race through it. Yeah, it should kind of go through it for the most part, but I think Yeah, I think just outside of ball is pretty good. I’m going to give it I’m going to give it that two ball. We’ll see see how we’re looking. Oh. Oh, got him. Oh, what? I thought it was short. Not going to lie. They’re getting crispy. Not going to lie. Nice putt. Thank you. Keep it going, baby. Let’s keep it going. All right, it’s 256 to carry that in the middle. And it’s a short hole. Might be a Google Earth job, but it feels like not driver. Maybe. It looks like it pinches kind of awkwardly. Let’s see. It’s actually It seems so much wider. Well, this makes it look like a field. It makes it look huge. I feel like I get up on all these holes and I’m like, “Oh, there that desert is.” Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, I’m going the wrong way. There we go. We can kind of just hit driver up there. If you want to hit driver up there, I mean, it does get narrow, but if you like it, might as well. Hell yeah. Trying to think. Two. Actually, this is just gonna We’ll go mini. Mini. Yeah. I’ve been waiting for the mini. Yeah, we’ll go mini dog. Can always How long have you had the mini dog in the bag? Um, I put the first one I ever had was back in Cornferry, like the middle of the middle of the seasonish, like kind of June of 20 three, I guess I would have been. And then I switched to this one at the end of last season. Um, this one, like the PXG just sits like a little bit flatter to the ground. It’s more of a big 3-wood rather than a small driver. Got it. It’s easier to hit off the ground for me. And so, you do hit it off the ground? Oh, yeah. Into par fives and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I can I can get plenty of plenty of height on it even though I don’t don’t off the tea, but should be good, right? Yeah. Right. That bunker. That was a good shot. Should sprint forever. That’s going to go a long way. Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I was like, Driver, even if it lands just short, it’s just going to over roll. It’s just going to roll over. Yeah, your driver’s probably rolling out like a good 350 today. Yeah, this lets a difference too. Like Whisper Rock right now is little wet fairways like that just keep everything green and healthy. So it’s like getting mud balls and everything hits and sticks and you forget that most of the courses right now are getting getting super dry dry and fast. Yeah. So is your There was a video that came out was like that all you do is like gym golf. Yep. Repeat. Pretty accurate. So give me like a normal like uh yesterday. So, I actually very recently slash this these two weeks kind of changed my routine. Um, I work out in the morning now. Um, you didn’t used to. No, always worked out at night like forever and I still will. Um, but like I kind of enjoyed it because I’m not 22 anymore and I can’t just like wake up and go play golf. I have to actually get my body like prepped and ready. And then I don’t really do the workouts that I used to do where they’re, you know, destroying every fiber and whatever tissue I’m working on that day. It’s a lot more like full body stuff. Make sure it’s, you know, it’s still I’m still lifting during off weeks a good amount and during tournament weeks, but it’s a lot more about like how do I make sure I don’t keep injuring myself and stay healthy and ready to go. you were doing more like squats and benches and all that. Like whatever you would if you if you YouTubed bodybuilding workout, that’s what I was doing for the last 10 years, 15 years, whatever it is. Deadlifts and all that. Yeah, deadlift, squat. Like I would just do a very simple split for the most part. I’d do like chest, back, shoulders, legs, and just repeat and like not really take a day off. So, it was not not super fantastic. Um, but I mean, I did it for a long time, and I love I’d love it. Like, if I could, I would I would still do it. I just, you know, my body’s just starting to like tell me no. You notice the difference? Oh, a thousand%. Yeah. Like I’ve had back the last like few years. Um, yeah. I mean, I think like I think I’ve noticed a difference in like number one, I think I got too heavy and my body didn’t really like carrying the weight, so then it put more stress on certain things that couldn’t move or weren’t as mobile. Um, so now that I’m doing these workouts, I feel like my body is able to like move a lot more free. Uh whereas before I felt a little more constricted and certain things had to like hinge and bend because there was either muscle in the way or like my body wasn’t limber enough to move. Um so now it’s like lost a little bit weight and then feel just feel overall just like healthier, stronger. So did you you had to get like a fitness guy to help you like design new things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I started working with a guy, you know, worked somebody last year and then somebody else this year, a couple guys this year who just had me on like a little better plan and and like just feeling good too. Like it’s all like rotational [ __ ] somewhat. Not really. I mean like there’s still like, you know, like I still do like three or four supersets of actual lifts. So I’ll do squats, I’ll do a bench press, I’ll do like a row, I’ll do all that sort of stuff, but it’s more full body every day rather than just focusing on chest for two hours and then that’s it, you know? And like and then afterwards like soreness too or a little bit. Yeah. Like a lot more well-rounded. So like my body just feels like warmed up and solid. I’ll feel sore the next morning. Like right now like legs are feeling it a little bit from yesterday but like nothing crazy. Um whereas if I did a leg workout it was like brutal for like three days after and then you can’t have that plan on tour. I can’t and I tried that day. I did I did for a little too long. Um but yeah so like my normal day now like I’ll wake up I’ll go train in the morning and I do it also because it’s on the way to the course. So how long are we talking? Uh it’s usually like realistically an hour hour 15 from the time I like get there to leave. Um, and then I bring my clothes and everything with me and usually a shake. So then I drive up to the course, usually shower at the course, get changed, then start with normal practice. So I’ll usually do short game and putting to start for quite a while. Um, couple hours. Yeah. Like usually, I mean, the other day I was chipping for a very long time just because there was stuff I had to finish and so it’s like chip until you’re done. Um, it was like, you know, one of the stats that showed that like a little decrease this year was like short-sided chipping from the fairway, which can be like a little bit skewed for the courses we played at the start of the year cuz like you think about sawrass or some of the places you play early, like those low areas short-sided, you’re dead suck. Yeah. So, it’s not like when people think short-sided from the fairway, it’s not like level ground 12 yard pitch. Oh, you suck at those. It’s like no, it’s like a flop shot from an awful lie or trying to putt it like up a big mound, like that sort of stuff. So I worked on those, but it was like five balls from like random areas to three different pins and you got to make all five from random spots. So you make like make it in the hole. Yeah. So you did that, you chipped, you worked out, then you chipped, chipped, chipped for a long time, then went and putt for a long time, but a lot more like structured putting stuff. So like making sure like setup’s good, making sure lines set up, little bit of speed work, and then went and hit balls for a while. then went in and had lunch and then came back out, did more like fall full process putting. So like 18 holes of random length putts like my stack guy gives me usually based on each week. If it’s a course where you’re hitting to 30 feet all day, you’re going to have more putts from like 20 to 40 feet. If it’s a course where you’re hitting a lot of wedges, maybe it’s more like 8 to 15 feet. Um so did one of those games, then went back and hit more balls and then went out and played nine holes with like a few a few balls out there. It’s like Prime Tiger schedule. Yeah. Yeah. So, you’re at the golf course from like 9 to probably realist. Yeah. Probably like 9:30, 10:00 until 6:30, something like that. And then you go home. Go home, eat a meal, take a shower, play video games until midnight, and go to sleep. Are you not concerned? Like, cuz I’ve I was I’m a big soccer fan. Yeah. And I was listening to a manager. He was doing an interview. Mhm. And he was saying that it’s a big problem. He was saying that these guys play video games and it fries their brain a little bit. Yeah. I mean, I would say for sure. I think for me it’s like a reward for a day’s work in a sense. Um, like I don’t I don’t play during the day. Like if I’m taking a day off, for sure like I’ll see if some of my buddies can play or something like that and I’ll I’ll jump on. But for the most part, like we have a group of us that just go play every night before we go to bed and, you know, jump on, chitchat. And what do you play? Call of Duty or Apex usually. Are you good? Yeah, I’m good. I’m good at Call of Duty. Not as good as Apex, but got some buddies that are good. So, a true a true uh I was going to say Gen Z, but you’re not quite Gen Z. No, just old enough. All right. 59. It’s only 54 front. So, okay. Will you try to give us a little height cuz you want to land on the green? Yes and no. I mean, I think for the most part, I’ll open it up a little bit and make sure it has a little bit more spin, but I won’t necessarily try to like hoist it too much. I’ll kind of just let the loft do that. So, yeah, to answer your question, yes, but I won’t I won’t really manipulate it too much. Get a good hop now. Yeah, go in. Oh, yeah. Great shot. That was a little bit of an aggressive go in. Yeah, probably shouldn’t have burned to go in there. That’s okay. You know, we’ll maybe use one later. You know what I’m saying? I got a I got a little excited. Shipley like lipped out last time and I I almost I almost had a heart attack on the golf course. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love that guy. He’s playing in there. Leak Sun Coast. You play You play that? I did. I actually I played that. So I I played by myself on Saturday. I was like basically the last guy to make the cut. And what was it? I teed off Sunday. I played well Saturday. I shot like seven under something or six under. So I got into like the middle of the field 20 something, 30 something. And so the leaders were going to go off when I was on like 13 or something like that or maybe like through nine. And uh I shot I don’t remember exactly. I shot like nine under or something like that. So you got hot on the weekend. Yeah. So I I I I played nice. I that was like the story of my cornfair year. I’d like make the cup by a few and then like we just went and played really solid over the weekend and had a bunch of weekends where I’d shoot like I don’t know 10 to 14 under on the weekend and like but the thing about the corn ferry is like you watch you finish early and then you watch watch yourself move down where I feel like tour you stay that’s what’s so nice I feel like even if you’re playing like Bay Hill and it’s like super hard you post you know early two under four five under your T9 and then you finish like T4. Well, that’s why the the three and three start on weekends suck. Like the three and three start like because you get no opportunity as somebody in the middle of the field to go and post something. Everybody’s kind of playing at the same time. Yeah. So it’s like whereas like if you know if you’re six shots back and you’re already tied with the lead and those guys are three holes in and you’re 12 holes in wind starting to kick up. Yeah. You go post like the players this year you go post a number. Like it was Yeah. It was not easy playing. That’s got to be the best feeling in the world when you’re done and you refresh and you’re just moving up and moving up and moving up. And I mean that’s yeah that’s like the that’s the other side to it though for like PGA Tour versus Cornferry like if you get a week where the cut’s kind of easy like that cut line usually goes from like two to three to four pretty quick like cornfairy if like you’re kind of on the cut line with 20 guys on the course like everybody gets kind of nervous like that cut line might have a chance to kind of today. Let’s keep it going. More birdies. More, please. How many holes that we That’s uh five. I think we’re four, five. Four through five. All right. I like it. So, what are you thinking here? It’s straight down wind. Yeah, it’s 215 and this is just going to go mile 215. Probably want to land at like 208. I think we can probably get away with a 90 shot. Just a good full seven iron. Yeah, good. Just like hold it a little bit. Hopefully let the wind kind of hold it up and get it to fall a little right towards the end. That’s That’s the eight yard pull that goes to the left side of the green. Sit down. All right. It’s going forever. That’s still sapp. Oh my god. I still see it. That was a tough thing in college. Like usually when you show up to some of these universities events like they’re hosting at their you know onampus basically golf course that they play every day. Yeah. And then we’d host our golf course at Cordoval that we played you know three rounds in September before school started or something like that. That’s up north isn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. So, like we hosted at Cordoval twice, we hosted at Pelican Hill in Newport once and then the other time at Lacosta down there as well. Well, I’m doing this college series now where I go to uh like the best we did Auburn in Texas. Yeah. It’s just like I mean no disrespect to like I don’t know how you why would you not go to like Yeah. a school that has their own golf course and their own 100%. Like Auburn was like those kids don’t even they don’t even pretend that they go to school. Yeah. Like like I I mean that’s what was telling me. He was like, “I have to go to school.” Yeah. Like, dude, it’s hard. Like, I barely got through. I mean, I didn’t graduate, but like I was barely passing. You didn’t graduate? No, I left early. Yeah. I left I got I went back for the start of my senior year and I played that like false start or whatever and then I turned pro at the start of, you know, start of the new year because you were just like, I don’t need I don’t need the degree is not going to do anything for me. Yeah. I was like, you know, I mean, I wasn’t going to graduate technically unless I took summer classes going into my senior year. I wasn’t going to graduate on time. like I was allowed to walk because I had enough credits but I wasn’t going to technically get my diploma. So I would have had to even take more classes after and I was like zero% chance there’s no way. And so you know I cons I considered like maybe or not considered I thought about like oh man during co would be a great time to take like a few online courses and crack out a few credits but I just like I don’t know maybe I’ll maybe I’ll do it some for that at all. Not really. Like they understood golf. Like they knew they kne they knew at a very early age how much I loved golf and like how much I was willing to put into it. Like it’s not like they were supporting me as a kid who like would just sit inside all day and practice when I was told to. It was like they had to tell me to leave the golf course. So yeah, it was they knew it was what I wanted to do. They were willing to support me and like I moved back in at home for, you know, three years, four years, something like that or three years after I turned pro. We were opposites, dude. And I I I started to like try to take it seriously when I was like 16. Yeah. And then I got my license and I was like smoke weed with my girlfriend and go to the beach every day. I like I would lie about where I was. All that before they could track you with your phones. Oh yeah, for sure. So I was like, “Yeah, I’m at Brentwood.” Yeah. I was just in Venice. I was say I didn’t have a I didn’t have an iPhone until my freshman year in college. And I was like Yeah. It was just trust. Yeah. But like but honestly like what we would do like um like I had a group of like four or five buddies in high school that we all met when we were freshman basically. Um or one of them or two of them were older and the other two were like eighth grade freshman and like we just started hanging out every day. So like we just go to the course all day, hang out, practice and then like you know we’d go spend the night at somebody’s house and we’d wake up next morning at 6 a.m. and go to a public course and play. Like nobody was members anywhere or anything like that. So we just bounced around like Mile Square, Costa Mesa, Metal Arc, like all these different places. Did you play like a pretty good amateur? Were you into Were you into like the Western and all that stuff? Yeah, I played the Western AM. We usually like I tried Northeast and all that. Yeah, like I didn’t I mean, you know, my like we didn’t have a ton of money to go travel to like every tournament across the country. So it was like we usually picked a couple that were out of state. So I’d go to like maybe like a AJ Invitational in like Texas or something like that. Um because we kind of got told like, “Hey, if you’re just the best player in California, like schools are going to notice.” Hell yeah. So like if you just go win tournaments in California, like that’s the best competition you can get. And so my parents were like, “Why don’t we just do that?” Like, you know, and I was all on board. I was like, “You Toyota Tour Cup killer.” Oh yeah. I used to play Toyota Tour Cup. So like I played I played a bunch. Tuck Canyon. Tuckquet. Yeah. That was everything. Bulmont. It had like four different names. Well, that’s So I went out there originally when it was Bowmont. We would go out there in the afternoons because it was super windy and my dad like was smart. He would take us out there when we were little kids and it would be super windy, super tough. Kids played free after like 1:00 as long as an adult played. And so like we’d go drive, it was like an hour and 15 minutes from our house and we’d go drive and do that in the summer and like go play at 1:00 in the afternoon and it would just be brutal. Like and then you get to tournament so you’d be fine. Exactly. And so it was like it was just the ultimate kind of the ultimate test but it was awesome. It’s kind of gently moving left the whole way. Yeah, I don’t I think it’s sneaky. Got like a little right in it at the beginning is what I felt. But since I’m hitting it, I don’t think it’s going to actually move it right. And then it should just go left that second half. So this is where like, you know, what is that thing you keep doing that? Uh for my thing, you stand three feet behind it if it’s a putt outside six feet. So is that a 36 inch putter? 34 and a half or whatever. So like I usually just give it, you know, finger or two width behind just gives me the same spot. Now it’s just I mean I do it every time now. But yeah, it was just like the easiest way to make sure you’re standing in the same spot. Just consistency, you know. Little low. Sit. Good speed though. Really good speed. That’s a stroke game. Positive putt right there for sure. We’ll take those. We like kickins. Do we do gimmies on this channel or we Nope. Full full on. Never never met a putt I can’t make. I never really played gimmies growing up. Yeah, I didn’t really. My dad was a super like he he’s like a lifelong eight handicap. Yeah. And every round’s like every round’s like the US Open. Everything counts. And every time I would complain to him, he’s like just make it pretty straight away. But you see, it looks so wide, but it gets narrow. It’s This thing is This thing is misleading. She’s narrow. Yeah. So, we’re going to we’re going to hit the mini out there. We’re going to get her in play. I like the same shot as the last part for Yep. Agreed. Give ourselves shortish iron wedge kind of off that bunker. Yeah, it seems like that left edge of the greenside bunker seems pretty good. Yeah, I like that. That little tree. Yeah. Ooh, that’s sexy. That’s the one right there. That is the apex on that probably like 20. Not high. 25 maybe. Yeah, I hit one. I’ve been working on it more with like my fivewood to hit that shot and uh I hit one on course. I like launched the fivewood at like two degrees and I was like, man, that’s nice. I was like, if I can keep that going. I mean, that shot right there, that’s British Open all day. Yeah. That’s why I need to get in. I’m going to play the Scottish this year. I didn’t play the Scottish last year since I wasn’t in the British. You’re in the Scottish for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it’s not signature any status member. Yeah. What? You finished like 52nd? Yeah. Were you pressing end of the year? I was trying. I honestly like, you know, I didn’t want to talk about it or like get it out there a lot. Like my shoulder was just so messed up and didn’t feel good and I just wasn’t wasn’t feeling like myself. And so what was the issue? Just like labor issues and torn things. Did you go surgery? No. No, I did no surgery. Just did a bunch of rehab and took some time off and um No, it feels awesome now. I haven’t had any issues. Like there’s still workout stuff and certain movements that I don’t like, but like I can swing a golf club painfree, which is it’s important. A dream. Yeah, cuz it’s just it was just wear and tear. Overhead presses a little tough for you. Yeah, exactly. No overhead presses, no behind the head tricep presses, none of that stuff. So, um but yeah, I just didn’t I just, you know, body was kind of hurting and I think mentally I was a little exhausted and just like didn’t play well at the end of the season. It was a bummer cuz I I wanted to obviously wanted to finish top 50 or top 30 and all that sort of stuff. Did you need something at Castle at Castle Pines like you needed to play well? I didn’t get into Well, I was I played Memphis. So, I took a few. Oh, yeah. That was top 50, the second one. Yeah. So, I played Yeah. So, top 70 was Memphis and like I needed I don’t remember what I needed to finish like if I mean I think it was I probably missed by like five, six shots, something like that. I didn’t play well at Memphis either, but um I had taken like a few weeks off prior to like try and get my get myself ready, but just wasn’t wasn’t meant to be. But all in all, like think about that season, it’s like it’s kind of like Roy said, like going into the playoff, like if you would have taken this on Monday, it’s like if you would have told me I finished 52nd in my rookie season on tour, like I would have taken it. Yeah. So, and won. Yeah. And won. And it’s like, yeah, I would I would have taken it if I missed every cut and won one golf tournament. Like I played to win golf tournaments. as much as being consistent and all that stuff is super fantastic. I’ I’d rather So that brings me to my next question. That’s a nice segue. Yeah. The you know 59 the week you shoot 59. Yep. A lot of talk about that shenanigans in the water. Of course you don’t regret it. You would have done it again 100%. Yeah. Cuz you were planning to win. Yeah. Oh, that that stuff. And are you saying or that’s the question like asking about that? Yeah. Like when when you you like left two in the drink kind of for sure. Yeah. I mean I 100% would have done it again. Like, you know, that’s that second shot’s hard. It’s like probably one of the tougher second shots, especially on that back nine. I mean, there’s just a lot of tough second shots, but you know, you have to get the number right. Like, the wind’s tough to judge because that hole the wind’s like it’s right to left, but it’s really hard to tell if it’s like slightly in or slightly down. You can’t really miss long. It’s just I mean, you can it’s just a very tough up and down. And then obviously if you come up a little bit short, it’s maximum penalty. And like unfortunately I’d had like the same miss with my irons for like the previous weekish where I was just getting like a little steep and hitting them like low on the heel just a tad and they would just come out like a little dead and short right. And like to any normal pin it’s like with a pitching wedge it’s 20 feet short right not the end of the world. And that pin that’s the one thing you can’t do. And like just kind of that same miss just hit it like touch low in the face. Came out a little short. And like when it came to hitting that shot, like I could tell Mike like didn’t really want me to hit it. But like I mean I could see 90% of the ball. I felt my foot under and it really wasn’t that bad. Like I never really hit a ball out of water like that submerged. Like I’d hit a couple that are like in muddy and whatever. But that didn’t scare you like okay I’m in I have a chance to win the golf tournament and try something new. Not really. I mean, I felt like it was one of those scenarios where it’s like, you know, when you have a chance to win a golf tournament, like there’s kind of those times where it’s like, this could be the right choice, wrong choice, whatever it is. And like, listen, if I get that up and down and make par and win the golf tournament, it’s like the best decision and best shot ever, right? Obviously, it doesn’t go well. Then it’s like, okay, yeah, but you weren’t like kicking yourself after like, man, I should have just taken the drop. Like how I looked at it, like cuz literally when you look at that entire round, like I didn’t make any putts that last round. Like I hit a lot of freaking good putts. It just didn’t go in. But I wore that play ace out. Like I hit every shot to like 25 feet and gave myself looks seem seemed like all day and that was my goal like playing with a little not even a little bit of lead. I mean I had one shot or whatever but like you know I just tried to make it as stress free as possible basically and then press if we had to towards the end but that course isn’t really a course where there’s like option A option B. Like it’s just about execution. So get the shot. Yeah. It’s like let’s, you know, we all talked like we stats guy and or Corey and Mike and I we talked and it was like, you know, let’s just keep plugging like I know I’m hitting it well. Like if anything shift targets like a yard or two more conservative and then just trust the putter is going to be hot and like let it go. And so did that other than one hole. All right. 100 even. 100 even. That’s great. I can’t tell if there’s any room on the green like over the bunker short of the pin. If I had to guess, looking at how high the left side is, I’m going to assume that it all kind of slopes down and to the right. Yeah, that’s what it looks like. So, like I have that 94 shot, so I’ll pretty much hit that. Land it a couple yards short. Yeah, I like that one bounce. Yeah, I should just kind of skip and probably realistically skip a couple times and stop. Whoa. Go ball. That uh not the greatest shot I’ve ever seen. It was uh quite firm ground if I have to say so. Hard pan action. Yeah, it made it made kind of a funky sound. It was a bit uh felt like cart path to be honest with you. Some public golf, baby. Yeah, we we embrace that. Yeah, you never know what you’re going to get. Have you always been uh like long off the tea? Always been fast? Uh yeah, for the most part. Like I Yeah, I I always swung at like high percentage, like 98% to hit driver or whatever. Like I just always swung it as hard as I could for the most part. And then I was always small though, like I was really undersized, like as a kid, I was always, you know, number two on the basketball team or soccer team because I was the smallest jersey. And so I grew a bunch like my I shouldn’t say a bunch, but it to like normal height like my maybe sophomore year. And that’s when I started hitting it like not only far from my size but then just like far in general because like my buddies talk about it who I grew up with like I was a short one in the group kind of hit it short and I was like I looked like four years younger than them and then once I grew all of a sudden I’m hit at 30 by him and like you know just everything kind of fell into place from there. That’s a nice feeling when you when you just your body starts to cooperate. Well my brother’s the exact opposite of me. My brother’s 6’4 6’5. Oh really? Yeah. And he was he was like six feet tall or 61 his like freshman year in high school. Whereas I was I was I hit five foot my freshman year in high school. Wow. You were really small. Yeah. Like my I think my first my first or my driver’s license when I originally got it I was 5’9 125. Oh man. So that was uh come a long way. Thank you. use the same mark all the time. Um, funny story. Um, if anybody’s out there and knows where this is, I’ll I’ll pay handsome amount of money. Uh, at Memorial last year, we were going to go putt after a practice round and I was like, “Oh, you know, lunch is about to close, so I’m going to go grab some lunch. Just leave the bag here and we’ll go up.” So, we go up, it starts raining, so my caddy runs out, grabs my bag, and goes. We come back out to go putt and my little valuables pouch which was from Augusta like a sweet little leather pouch that has I only had three ball markers in there. One was my buddies that he made me or for his wedding. I was his best man so he made it. Another and then the other two were like personal markers that people had given me. The only three I’ve used in like six years and it was gone. Someone nicked it. Yeah. So not saying that somebody nicked it. I think it fell out or something when my caddy moved it but it was never turned in or replaced. Oh man. So, that’s a that’s a touchy subject for me. It’s a bit sad. I didn’t mean to bring that up. I’m sorry. No, that’s okay. I’m I mean, hopefully somebody sees this and they’re like, “Oh, I have the marker that says Jake best man on it.” Um, but uh this is the nudge you need to return it. Exactly. So, I don’t know why anybody would want them. They’re not really cool markers or expensive. I think it was probably the the Augusta pouch. The Augusta pouch. I don’t even care. They can have it. I I mean, it’s cool, but like I care more about the stuff in it. Yeah. It’s sentimental. Yeah. But uh but no, now I use like a whisper rock coin because there’s just a million of them at the club all the time. So this has got some break at the end. Yeah, this thing’s swooping. It’s just that we make these. Just drip it in that right side. Go. No, not enough speed issue though. I mean, I technically Yeah, like could have been hit a little bit harder, but also could have been half cup higher. 150. Really? 150. What’s cover on that bunker? 135. So 150. I mean into the wind pretty much just land on the hole. Thinking like nine iron, 50, 44, probably 55 shot. Yeah, that seems about right. Wedge. N iron. Definitely not wedge. I uh I tend to hit a lot of club when it’s in the wind. I spin the ball a lot. I don’t play like a crazy low spin golf ball. So, you like to take some speed off it? Yeah. And I’m already like a steep high spin guy anyway. Like I’ve been I’ve been trying out different balls to see if I like the balls that actually like you know if I was getting fit for something this I’d probably get fit for a different ball that spins less. But like when I if I see a ball not spinning like I just don’t don’t like it. I’d way rather have too much spin than not enough. So it is how far again? It’s 15 150 and then 35 carry on the bunker. Okay. 150. Got a little room both sides right at it. Yeah, pretty much dead at it. Maybe if a yard left, but nothing crazy. Lost it. Maybe a little left. Definitely a little left. Pretty similar. It’s like Oh, man. That is way left. Holy cow. It was a pull for sure. You didn’t see it. I didn’t know if you were just like being sarcastic. No, I didn’t see it. It felt like my club got stuck in the ground after. So, I always You always think that one’s going left. Well, yeah, for the most part. But I didn’t think I hold it that much. It’s just hard to tell when you don’t get that brush. That’s it. Yeah. It should be magnetic right here. Oh, yeah. There we go. He’s on the e-hole. Better better uh late than never. That’s okay. Mike knows I love giving him crap. Sometimes after a bunker shot, they’ll still be like a little bit of sand in a groove. I like, “Hey, let me uh let me see that thing real quick.” So, how are you uh you feeling comfortable now with like the tour life and like cuz I mean it sounds like you’ve brought a lot of people on so like you got to spend more money and stuff. Yeah. How’s that been? Uh I mean not my favorite. I’m a pretty like frugalish person, so I don’t Well, you had a lot of lean years. Yeah. So, I’m not used to I’m not like I don’t spend that much money on myself. Like I spend money to make sure I have what I need, but like in terms of like indulging in things, I don’t not. You didn’t buy a car or anything? I bought a car last year. Okay. Yeah. I have I mean, I owned a truck for a while and then once I won Grant Thornton, I bought myself a little Christmas present, but nothing get insane. Uh I got a Dodge Demon 170. Is that like a power muscle car? Yes. 125 horsepower. And that’s it. 0 to 60 and 1.6. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It’s a rocket ship. Yeah, it’s a rocket ship. So, I love that thing. I mean, I kid you not. I put I I start that thing up just makes me smile. Like, it’s just so much fun to drive. So, I don’t drive it very much, but um they only made 3,000 of them. So, they’re they’re like a little bit of a collector’s item. Collector. Yeah. But other than that, like I’m not a watch guy or like fancy clothes and nothing like that. So, what about on the road? Will you like splurge and get yourself like a little nicer Airbnb now or anything? No. No. No. That’s where I’m like cheapest. Like you don’t you don’t the fivestar hotel doesn’t do it for you? No. I’m not a hotel guy. I stay in I stay in Airbnbs as much as I can. Usually try to find the cheapestish ones, not spending eight grand on a house for a week or something like that. There’s certain weeks where you have to do that for like majors and whatnot, but um yeah, I try I try to avoid at all costs. And then we’ll come back in 3 years and you’ll be buying a mattress every week to get the right the right I I haven’t fallen into that. I travel with my own pillow. That’s about Yeah, that’s about it. But I travel with bedding. I’ve been doing that since you travel with bedding. Yeah. I’m so weird about um I’m going to grab a tea real quick. I’m so weird about beds that aren’t mine really. I just get really like germaphobe and Yeah. And I I’m a big uh I hate top sheets. Okay. So I go fitted sheet and then like duvet duvet cover. Yeah. And so I just travel with a fitted sheet, my duvet, duvet cover, and a and a pillow in one suitcase. That’s so funny. Yeah. Well, I get free luggage, so I’m not, you know, it’s not. Why not? Yeah. I uh I do not do that, but especially if you’re going to be somewhere for like a week. Yeah. I mean, I I’m so used to it now. Like I’ve stayed grew up staying in or grew up, but I should say like beginning of my career. You stay in such bad hotels all the time. It’s like it just is what it is. Maybe maybe sleep with sweatpants and a hoodie up just so you don’t really touch anything. But like, you know, that’s that’s my idea of a of a cover. But I uh yeah, I mean, I stay in Airbnbs. Like, yeah, I have I have like a bigger team now, but it’s all like necessary. And also, I’m like a big relationships person. Like, I really need to make sure I like them. I don’t really I and I like having like a personal relationship with the people I have on my team or work with. Like, it’s interesting. Some guys I feel like like to keep it pretty business. Yeah, for sure. Like or like in terms of agencies and stuff, they want just like the big corporate whatever. It’s like no. Like I want to know the person I work with and I want it to be like that person or one other kind of thing. Know who you’re talking to. What’s that? You know who you’re talking to. Yeah. Yeah. So, you like it in for these or out or? Usually out as long as I can see it. Should be good. Yeah. Yeah. I have, you know, I have a stats guy, trainer. I worked in the nutritionist for a little while to just get my body right and then um yeah, just got a good good core group of people around me, which is which is nice. And everybody nice thing is like everybody knows each other and works together as well. So it all like team nap baby. Yeah. It all works very seamlessly. All right. See if we can hoop a longer one. Oh, stay up. Wow. That was a lot. Not bad. Yeah. broke a lot more that second half than I thought. There you go. No pebble, beach. No pebble here. No pebble. Took your time. It’s like a free throw. Oh, that was that was awkward. All right. This one’s pretty similar to what we’ve seen on the others. It’s It’s gets a little narrower up there. H 446. So, by your standards, it’s sneaky. It’s It’s a little bit longer than I thought it was. A lot of 450s. Lot of 450s. See, we got Looks like that right side’s pretty generous. Yeah. You thinking drivers at the right edge of that green side bunker? I was say, why not driver? Seems like we can some guys on the green. We can roll it into them. They’ll enjoy it. Yeah. They’re not going to yell at me. They are not going to yell at you. It’s one one benefit of having your name on your bag. Then again, who knows? Maybe they’re not golf fans. Little wind right to the left. Oh yeah, that’s really good. Yeah, that’s going to be nice. That’s going to be a tape measure shot. Keep falling. That’s just riding the wind. Should be perfect. Yeah, it should be nice. So, the nightclub thing. Oh, yeah, baby. I feel like a way too much was made of that. Yeah, I think there was a lot of I think it was misunderstood. I think there were a lot of times where I listen to coverage and be like, you know, he was a bouncer before he decided to play professional golf and I was just like, holy cow. You’re like, no, I’ve worked every day since I was six years old to do pro. Not quite. I’m like, if you even just like search up me and my junior whatever, like I played a lot and like I was on, you know, I was decent. Like I was good, but I was like, yeah, I hit a little bit of a rough patch and did something else. In realistically, it was like one of the best decisions I ever made. Got some extra cash. Yeah, some extra cash, perspective, appreciation, all those sorts of things. It was a And now you can deal with drunk fans. 100%. Yeah. I think it’s funny. Mike and I talk about all the time. I’m like, this guy’s this guy’s talking to the wrong guy. Better watch his tone. Yeah. It’s like I that’s a really thin rope. I’ll escort you right out of his face. I have no issue. No, it’s uh yeah, it was you get some good you get some good fan support for sure. I think I think that’s been like the coolest part is just like, you know, you show up as a rookie and like most people, you know, especially show up to like farmers and some of those events like that’s really like the first one where there’s a lot of people, you know, big golf community in San Diego and SoCal in general. So, it’s like a busy event. Um because, you know, before that you really just played Sony, not a ton of people. Played AMX, not a lot of people. It’s kind of spread out. Yeah. Three courses. Yeah. And then you go to farmers and it’s like, man, if you play the weekend, it’s like there’s a lot of people. Even on like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, it’s like there’s some people that come out and are just walking around, but like I remember walking up to a tea box that week and like overhearing a couple people and they’re just like, who’s this guy? Like who is this? You know, is he, you know, and I’m just like I was like, yeah, fair enough. You got rid of that pretty quick though. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I mean, it played well that week and then obviously a few weeks after and it was, you know, it’s a like even in terms of like being well known or whatever, it’s like the golf community or the golf world’s like it’s obviously golf’s like grown a lot. Um, and it’s like if I show up at a golf course, like yeah, sure people are going to know who I am, but like for the most part I can go live my daily life and like not worry about it. Whereas you have a guy like Roy, it’s like when I talk to him about it, it’s like dude, what do you like what do you do? you know, like where you Yeah. It’s like it’s tough. Like I, you know, it’s a Especially when you’re living in an area where like it’s a big golf culture. You live in Jupiter, you live in Scottsdale, you live in, you know, Dallas, Southern California, where people know that like those kind of people are around. Yeah. Like Rom can’t just like turn up to dinner. Yeah. Like, you know, then, but at the same time, like maybe, you know, if you live in a small enough town where everybody knows you or whatever, then it’s like you can do whatever you want because they’re so used to seeing you. So, there’s probably like a a balance in there somewhere. Um, but you know, I think there’s like such a big community here and so many guys that are out here that I feel like everybody’s pretty used to it at this point or, you know, might get excited for a second, but usually I’ll go to the grocery store, I’ll get recognized by one person and go about my business. Your girlfriend’s making She’s She’s big time. I know. She’s making waves. She’s making waves in the golf community. Yeah. Yeah. She’s uh she just loves Twitter. She loves loves Twitter. I’m interested to see how long that lasts because I love Twitter and then it’s a very it’s a very fine line. Twitter can be volatile. Twitter can really get away from you. Yeah. Especially if you’re like sarcastic or if you try to take a certain tone. Like I was just talking about with my agent the other day and he’s like, “Dude, it’s so tough.” Like when people read stuff like if it’s anything that needs explaining then like you’re just going to get such a massive amount of people who try to bring up like or just try to basically turn it negative like Yeah. You know, like unless you really explain like, “Hey guys, here’s exactly what I mean by this comment.” like, you know, then people just start to Well, I remember even when like Tiger tweeted like, “Oh, I’m gonna be playing the Masters.” Like a lot of people were like, “Amazing.” Like, “Good luck.” Literally, it’s like, “Come on.” Like, first of all, it’s April 1st. Let’s take a deep breath here and think this one through. That was mean though for him to do that. That was just There was a second there where I was like, “Oh.” And then I remembered April 1st. Yeah. Literally, he did do a good job of posting about three minutes later. Just a Hey, this is a joke. It’s just a joke. 103. Yeah. 103 back pin. So, this one’s like one where I’ll hit like a little bit more of a I mean, that’s similar that 94 shot, but a little bit more of like a even skippier one just so it can get to that back pin. Yeah. Just get it back there without having to worry about flying it back. All right, we’re 400. Let’s get it to five. Okay, deal. Oh yeah. Yes, sir. Golf shot. Nice. There was a pro when I was growing up who was like, he was [ __ ] old when I was growing up, so he must be ancient now. Yeah. Every time he hit a good one, he would go golf shot. Golf shot. Golf shot. It’s the only little thing in golf that I’ve never been a big fan of is when people call other guys pro. You don’t like when someone says, “Hey, pro.” Yeah. Hey, pro. That’s just never I don’t know. It’s just never been a thing around me. Like when I was growing up or anything like that. So like when I get called that I’m like I don’t That’s just weird. Good job pro playing pro. Hey pro. What’s going on pro? Noted. And I’m like all right you can just switch the P out with a B and I’m totally good with it. But noted when contacting Jake Knap, do not call him pro. Be like, “Hey pro, good playing.” Like just say my name. Yeah. Just say Jake. Yeah. Are you Jacob? I am. I am a Jacob. Jacob. Always gone by Jake. Actually, it was funny when I in junior golf, my dad used to sign me up sometimes as Jacob and sometimes Jake. So, I had like two rankings. Oh, really? Yeah. That probably screwed with things a little bit. It did. Yeah. So, we had to like combine them. Yeah. Like once I I think it was when I got over like 16, they were like, “Uh, which one are you? Which are you?” I was like, “We’ll we’ll do Jake.” Jake sounds good. Jake’s a good name. Jake’s Yeah, Jake. There haven’t been a lot of like famous bad Jake. No, we’ve done all right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like Big Jake is has a nice brand. Yeah. Like uh you ever seen 16? Was it 16 Candles? No. What is that? Movie. Old old movie. Is there a Jake in 16 Candles? No. Uh the actor’s movie or the actor in the movie is named his his name is Jake Ryan. I’m Jake. My brother’s Ryan. Oh, perfect. So that’s who my mom went with. Oh, really? After the movie? I mean somewhat. Yeah. Pretty pretty two two solid names. Pretty positive. Those names stand the test of time. It’s Jacob, so it’s it’s biblical as well. I loved that shot there. That’s the back pin shot kind of. Yeah. Let it trendle back. Try to get not spin as much. Basically, just let it let it release and do its thing. I mean, that one landed significantly shorter obviously, but yeah, that took a big hop. Yeah. That’s like when I say like I’m not as much of a spin person. like spin it when you need to, but like Oh, it’s bad again. I got We’ll work on that release high left. It’s good thing you’re not a pitcher in men’s softball or something. I was just It’s too much, you know? I got to release it a half a second earlier. Yeah, that’s fair. See, now you start thinking about it. I know. I’m in my head. That’s why like I go I go overhand and I shoot it to like Oh, yeah. You get the the nice touch. Little flick of the wrist. Little free throw action. This is one where I’ve catty for you guys enough. I know I don’t say anything on these putts. They’re professional golfers. I love sometimes. Yeah, sometimes Mike will say too much. No, he won’t say too much, but he knows when to not. This is Yeah, you just, you know, they’ve hit thousands of these in their life. A new leader in the clubhouse. What a performance. Mr. Jake Knap, is that nine? We only played one part three. That was only one part five. Good stuff, man. Pleasure. You got to you got to grade my caddy skills. I was pretty hands off today. You were hands off, but I thought the green reading was an A+. You dialed that. And then I think the lines off to tea were solid. You know, I mean, for us both not being here before. So, give him a better book and I think you’re I think five under first time seeing the course is pretty good. I’ll give you a solid A. I’ll take an A. All right. Like and subscribe. We’re going to do more of these on the bags. Thank you so much. Thanks to Jake for being here. Thank you guys. Five under par. I hope you guys enjoyed the show. Appreciate you.
22 Comments
This is incredible. Can we get more info on the stats guy Jake mentioned? Corey?
I see a Jake Knapp video; I click video
If you're 5 under you gotta make the turn right?!?!
get a better host ty
man it's a different game the way pros can break down every detail and variable before hitting their shot
the range finder drop on 4 lol – wish the crew didnt grab it cuz that tee box interaction would've been golden
That swing is unreal. So fun to watch
Improve the sound
Followed Jake for one of his rounds at Quail Hollow last year with his parents. Super awesome people! Definitely worth watching Jake IRL if you’re at an event! Swing is unreal.
Torn between liking Knapp, but also respecting myself enough to not sit through 90 minutes of the awful D rap
35:13 "You lint licker" 🤣Haven't heard that in years. Gold. This dude is just too easy to root for.
why does Dan always dress like he doesn't understand style ? what's happened?
Danny Rap is a dork. Glad he left Barstool
Can Dan dress any worse?!
Where do you find info on the tour IQ chart discussed on hole 3?
Dan you have to get better hats. I thought Barstool fixed that
As a golf nerd these videos are amazing. Seeing what it takes to be a pro is crazy
What’s the tat on his right quad?
D Rap gets a lot of unnecessary hate, he CAN be annoying sometimes (so can every content creator) but the hate he gets is not justified at all
I would be so crushed, if I got to know Jake Knapp and didn't get included in his friend group. Most chill dude ever.
Now this is content!!!
real rake secret is to take the final pass very light with the non pointy side of the rake. Smoothes that baby out!