Reviewing BETTINARDI ANTIDOTE Putters & More w/ Sam Bettinardi

The Bettinardi Antidote putters feature all-new Simply Balanced Technology that is designed with an optimized center of gravity that promotes a naturally square putting stroke from start to finish. For Bettinardi, the Antidote putters fit nicely into their full arsenal of putter offerings that includes Bettinardi Queen B, Studio Stock, and Inovai putter series.

During this Live at Lunch broadcast, 2nd Swing’s Drew Mahowald is joined by Sam Bettinardi, President of Bettinardi Golf, to review the new Bettinardi Antidote putters and discuss the full lineup of Bettinardi products and the company’s unique putter construction philosophies.

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Hey golfers and welcome back to the Second Swing YouTube channel for another live at lunch. Uh we’re here in the studio as we always do Thursdays at 100 p.m. Central time. And uh we have a very special guest with us today um when it comes to putters in the putter business in terms of golf. Uh Betardi is one of the top names that you think of. And so um joining us today is Sam Betardi, president of Betardy Golf. We have a lot to cover with Sam today, but um first Sam, I just want to uh see how things are going for you this season. Uh we’re we’re kind of still young a little bit into into the 2025 year, but of course um things are really uh happening over there at Betardi. So I just want to see how things are going. Yeah, thank you Drew. Appreciate you having me on. And uh it’s been a great start to 2025. Uh the golf industry to me is come back. You know, we had the great years in COVID and uh a little bit flat the last few, but I feel like consumers are are back looking for new gear. Uh and with the Betonardi range, you know, we we launched our irons last April, brand new wedge line this spring, uh our antidotes uh in January. So, it’s been hot. It’s uh it’s been uh problems having so much demand, but we’re keeping up with it, doing the best we can, and uh excited to see where the rest of the this uh Q2 and uh season takes us. But so far so good. Yeah, I know we’re I’m excited to to chat with you about those irons and about those wedges here in a little bit. Um but I know for us uh at second swing and um just I think the industry as a whole there’s this this sort of trend that is is kind of starting to emerge with some momentum and that is these these zero torque putters and so uh that’s where we wanted to jump to right away here is with the antidote series that you guys have. So, um, I know there’s been a ton of interest, a ton of momentum for us in the fittings, uh, that we are able to to do in our stores. Um, I kind of just want to jump in and and as far as the antidote putters, how did they even come about? How did you guys get started on these? Because, you know, with your I think we can I’ll let you kind of share u some of those putter design principles that you guys have, but there was a probably another hurdle or two you guys had to go through to get these things produced. Yeah, absolutely. Uh the conversation really started in 2020, the fall of 2023. One of our longtime PGA Tour staffers, Matt Coocher, had requested a putter from up from us, and he wanted the putter to be tow up. So, we went back to the shop, our engineering team, and we had made him a a wide variety of prototypes that had a lot of different neck placements on there to be able to achieve that that toe up uh appearance, right? And that uh you know, again, the opposite of towh hang there. So when he got the putters, he wasn’t exactly thrilled with the fact that they weren’t one piece mil, right? We had a lot use a lot of welding and a lot of crazy Frankenstein builds to be able to make them, I would say. And he really challenged us in February of last year saying, “Guys, you’re you’re betting one piece mill. Let let me see something uh you know, more of what I’m accustomed to from your brand.” So we were able to engineer that model you’re looking on the screen right now, the SB1 uh in a couple months. Matt Hooer got it in May. He texted me Sunday night after his first tournament of putting it in play. And he said, “I’m so excited. I just led the field in strokes game putting. You guys got something here.” And again, prior to that, we knew there was uh other companies in the golf industry making zero torque putters and it was starting to build a lot of momentum. So, when Cooch said that and we started getting more requests from other players, we knew we had to bring this to the masses. So, uh, starting with the SB1 and then eventually adding the SB2, these models were debuted in November and they launched in January in the United States. Uh, and they’ve been redhot. They’ve been really, really hot. I think what we’re able to do differently from other brands is we have the looks, uh, which are what golfers are accustomed to with the Betardi brand. Very clean, very classy, and then we have the feel, right? Each putter has a 303 stainless steel front piece. Not only does it look beautiful, but they feel what people have come to expect from the Betardi brand. There’s no tingy feel. Uh it’s just really, really solid. So, I think that’s why a lot of consumers have gravitated towards the Antidote is not only does the tech work, uh but it looks and feels phenomenal. So, really excited about that. Uh again, gaining a lot of momentum and excited to see where it takes us the rest of this year. Yeah, I’m actually holding um a a brand new This is the SB1 right here. And um I know and I was kind of looking through some of the materials um as far as um kind of what zero torque is and it’s a simply balanced technology you guys have. And you can kind of see how it it wants to spin here, right? You know, obviously you can hold it up the toe up and if you want to orient it, you know, toe down, you can. It stays there, right? It doesn’t want to it uh it will kind of orient itself how you want it to. So can you just kind of elaborate on what that technology means? this the simply balanced technology that you guys have implemented here and what it will do for golfers um in their putting strokes. Absolutely. One of the things I think we did differently about the anidote models that the shaft is inserted and where the spud is at and where the shaft goes into the putter head is directly in line with the putter’s center of gravity. So when we talk to consumers about this, it’s it’s essentially the putter is balanced in a vacuum. So, if you want to hold it where you’re a little bit more upright, 72, 73, it’s going to be simply balanced. If you want to hold it a little bit flatter, 67, 68, it’s going to continue to stay torque free. There’s no need to send it back into us and add screws and get it rebalanced off of the line angle. It works right out of the gate. So, for consumers, especially at second swing, you can buy off the rack knowing your putter is going to fit you uh with with what we have in both the antidote models. So, and again, when you talk about simply balance, there is no balance point. It could be toe up, it could you could keep it at face balance, you can have it towe down. Um, it it just works. And why I think consumers continue to gravitate towards that, Drew, is the fact that when you feel the putter, you can feel the technology, right? I almost liken it to when we introduced the armlock back in 2013, it was redot for us because it was a new style that no one had ever produced before. And the challenge of that was is you have to train golfers how to use a brand new putting style. Consumers like, “Hey, where do I hold it on my on my forearm? What’s the proper length?” And you know, there was a wide range of lengths. They’re 38 to 45 depending on how tall you are, depending on how much you want to bend over. Where with the antidote, you can grab it and you can go. You don’t have to change anything about your stroke. Uh, and it’s been really, really solid. I always laugh and and joke with people uh that remember the carnival ride, the gravitron, and joking they calling it the gravitron technology where you’re in that big saucer, and you’re stuck against the wall and your hands are there and you want to lift it off and they get sucked right back. The antidote to me, it feels like when you take that putter back, it doesn’t want to wiggle. It just wants to stay on that path. So, we got something really special there. It’s starting to get uh again more popular for us on tour. Franchesco Molinar is using it. Matt Coocher is using it. Other players are currently testing it. Uh and again, it works. Yeah. I mean, that’s ultimately the bottom line is that it works and it’s able to help golfers make more putts. Um one of the So, I’m I’m looking at I have, you know, SP1, SP2 kind of the, you know, the standard quote unquote uh models here, but I know there’s some other variations as well. So, can you just maybe run through those quickly, you know, in terms of different lengths and maybe and I also saw there was is there a remix out there? So, talk to me about what those are and how those came about as well. Uh yeah, the different models. The SP1 is more your classic blade. It’s a widebody blade. Uh we started creating widebody blades probably 10, 12 years ago. Very popular, easier to look down at. We always say it adds more confidence from a dress versus a skinny classic style like our BB1. Um and then the SB2 is your high MOI mallet, right? like kind of like a a Bettonardy Innovate putter where you’re blending 303 stainless steel and 6061 military grade aluminum to be able to achieve a higher MOI uh larger profile mallet and again by using aluminum. Aluminum is a lighter material to able to achieve that bigger head shape but that one is a very again smooth stable model. I would say sales are pretty split down the middle to be honest between the SP1 and the SP2. Okay. Um, but both really, really solid. And again, depending on the golfer’s preference of if they want more of that traditional blade or want a little bit more stability with the SB2, both available. Both models are also offered in counterbalance for golfers that want to get their putter 36 to 40 in uh heavier head weight at 400 grams. And then additionally, the SP2 was made in left-handed as well. Yeah, I mean that’s again that’s a pretty full lineup and you’re covering a lot of golfers there because I think the the key component is that um I know in for you guys at Bettonardi it’s it’s been really important to make sure the golfers like the putter that they’re looking at and so that was obviously a big part of the component of the antidote putters. I I do want to um go into the you have a couple comments in the YouTube chat of of some people kind of excited about these. Brian says, “I love my SB1.” Um, and then Josh said, “Uh, I I have got an Remix SB2 on my front porch. Looking forward to getting home to roll it.” So, it must have just arrived for Josh. So, uh, very exciting there. Um, and so now there Yeah, I mean it sounds, like you said, there’s some momentum there for sure with those putters. There’s, uh, you got people in the chat talking about them and, um, as you mentioned too, the the popularity on tour as well is taking off. Absolutely. And when you when you talked about the remix, Drew, uh we’ve had that around for the last two years where we’re taking an existing production model and remixing it with different finishes, different alignments, andor different face millings. So instead of going the custom program at Betard Golf, which starts at $3,000, we’re offering essentially a semicustom putter to consumers uh with different features that, you know, is not in the production range. So Josh, thank you for that purchase. Hope you enjoy it. Uh it’s a really really rich fire engine red and uh hopefully it performs on the course for you. Yeah, definitely a little different than the the stock I guess color scheme so to speak, but um it it is does look really cool and there are a lot of golfers that definitely will it’ll catch their attention. I’ll we’ll say so um now into the the full lineup. So in addition to the Antidote series, you have you know obviously a long list of um putter series that you’ve been that have that are that have been existing for a while now. you know, Studio Stock, Queen B, Innov. Um, so can you kind of just run through those and um, you know, the I guess the different characteristics and features that are unique to those series and um, what golfers can look for there if maybe for whatever reason Antidote isn’t quite for them. What are the other offerings you have? Yeah, I mean I I think Drew, starting from the beginning, you know, we’ve been making putters inhouse in our own manufacturing facility since 1998 and prior to that 91 and ’98, we were we were the go-to OEM for a lot of golf companies in golf. So, we know putters, right? So, throughout the different ranges, starting with, let’s say, the BB series, that’s my father’s flagship line, started in 1999. More your classic traditional style head shapes. uh black PVD finish. They feature our perpetual fly mill face milling. You know, you go over to the studio stock, a little bit more niche head shapes inspired from tour. You’ve gotten a lot of tour usage out of models like the SS9, studio stock 16, and it features our roll control face, which is a face milling that gets the ball into a true roll faster. Then going over to the Queen B series, that’s more of your aesthetic charm line. Uh again, niche more compact style head shapes, beautiful finishes, your classic mini honeycomb face milling that consumers have come to expect and love from Betard Golf. And then you go over to the Innovate, which is more your tech, just like the Antidote. That’s our tech line. You have higher MOI head shapes, stainless, aluminum, uh you have your fang style, your full body MOI line. and we’re trying to cover all golfers there uh with a variety of neck styles, finishes, face millings, uh towh hang options. So, when it comes to designing a new line, we’re we’re taking feedback directly from our staff and other players in the PGA Tour using our 27 plus years experience designing putters, milling putters right here in the United States and trying to come up with what are the best offerings we can bring to market uh to cover most if not all golfers. And I feel like every year we keep adding and expanding upon that and and hitting all the bases that golfers want to see from Benardi Golf. Yeah. And and like I mentioned with I mean Anidote covers obviously a large uh group of golfers, but the way you guys there’s a there’s a craftsmanship and sort of almost an elegance to each of these um these series in their own right. I mean and as you mentioned, you know, the different uh face millings and then of course you have the the added tech of the innov. Um, with that said, there’s there’s an option for everybody. If you if you prefer that big mallet that has a little bit of tech behind it, maybe some confidence for you, that’s where you’ll find uh some some something that you like in the innov uh but then some classic shapes, looks, feels uh maybe it’s studio stock or the Queen B. Um, one question that that I wanted to get um the perspective on from from you is just the face well the lack I guess I shouldn’t say. Yeah, you guys don’t do face inserts. You guys are milling everything, right? Um, and so can you guys can you just elaborate on that? Why you guys are are that why that is your process and um I guess the advantages that you guys see with face milling versus inserts. Absolutely. It’s a great question. Uh, you know, when my father Bob started the brand in 1991, he coined and trademarked the term one piece milling technology. And why that’s important is at the time there were other golf companies that were using inserts or using castings. We’ve always found that the best product that you can make in a milled putter is a one piece milled putter. There’s no need to uh take ahead. I’m going to grab a putter right here. Take a head and remove weights from the sole. Remove weight and material from the sole because that messes with the overall acoustics and feel of the putter. We like the feel and we like the performance of a one piece mil product and that’s staying true to our brand and who we are. Yes, we do inserts uh in the hive and one-off putters and having fun for different uh looks, copper, dantanium, uh you know, mocha materials, uh anything that we can do that’s unique and different. But when it comes to a production setting, we like the feel of a one piece mil putter. And what we can do is manipulate that feel by applying our variety of different face millings on each head. Whether you want firm like a honeycomb face or you want extremely soft like a fit face, we have it all uh throughout our production putter range. Yeah. And clearly the the feel and well the look as well is fantastic on uh really all the putters throughout the Betardy putter family. Um, and so, uh, with that said, uh, you know, I know we’re going to transition to maybe some, um, some other products here in the Betnardi lineup, but, um, I’ll I’ll add the note for golfers to to go get fit at second swing for a Betardi putter, whe whether it is the antidote that we talked about and that zero torque technology or if it’s the other, uh, series studio stock, Queen B or innov um, there’s obviously some fantastic products there um, from Betardi made in the USA as well. So, um, so now let’s talk uh, irons. So the CB and MB irons um kind of new um as of a year ago I believe or last year. Uh so talk to me about you know where those came about and uh you know what golfers will enjoy from the iron models there. Yeah I mean when we founded our our brand in 1998 it was named Betardy Golf for that very reason not Betardy Putters. Um you know we’re we’re diehard golfers here. My father and I uh we love the game and we knew we always wanted to expand into a variety of other clubs uh and we know metal right putters wedges we introduced in 2013 uh prior to that we started milling wedges in house and then last April we introduced our iron line so to me we knew over the last 10 12 years we’ve always wanted to make irons it was always a matter of when and when can we make a product that we feel performs better than what’s on the golf market today so I would say conversations really got seriously about four or five years ago and how can we bring a product that not only looks good to uh my father Bob and myself but also to some of our tour staff and then that works. So by not having a let’s call it uh quick product development cycle we were able to take our time and find some really cool materials that went inside each forged head uh that I feel and what we’ve seen in data and club testing perform better than what’s on the market. So, for those listening, I would challenge you to test our irons against what else you’re using or what else is on the market today. In my mind, and what we’ve seen, they’re the straightest iron in golf. They’re they’re so straight, they don’t want to move uh off the pin or where you’re lining them up. They have phenomenal feel being the fact that they’re forged and they have that beautiful benty look, classic that you’ve come to expect from our brand. There you go. You have it on the screen right now. That’s the uh that’s the seven iron from the cavity back line. Um that to me is just stunning. A lot of golfers have gone split sets. Uh like myself, I use pitch through seven in the muscle back and then four, five, six in the cavity back. Little bit more forgiving, higher launch on the lower lofted irons and a little bit more piercing uh on the on the 789 wedge. So really excited what able to do. They’ve been received very well. uh having a lot of success thus far and again I feel like it was the natural progression for the Veterary brand going from wedges to irons and really proud of what we’ve been able to accomplish in that category. Yeah, that’s a it’s a they’re fantastic looking irons. Uh that I don’t think that part is is really disputable. Um and I also appreciate the combo setability that you referred to there. uh seems like that’s a a common trend that we’re seeing in fittings for irons is the the ask or the even need for a lot of players to you have multiple models in their iron set and so to kind of have you know the CB for a little bit more forgiveness um and then have the MB as well uh for that you know obviously the classic you know muscle back type of feel and look um is pretty solid to have and then I also just wanted to get your perspective you know you talked about kind of how those irons were born sort of the you know the features of them and and the construction process, but can you just maybe speak to, you know, maybe the type of golfer in particular that that might be best suited to play those? Um, is there a I don’t want we don’t like going handicap range because, you know, a 15 handicap can be a 15 handicap in many different ways, but um a type of player that would be best suited to to uh you put those irons in the bag, whether it’s CBS or the MBs or or both in a combo set. Yeah, I would say if you’re a golfer that’s looking for more precision on your irons, and that’s what I’ve noticed and my friends and our customers that have bought them, uh, they all love them because they’re again, they’re so straight. They love the feel. And again, if you don’t want me to use a handicap range, I would say the muscle back is intended for better players, but the club fitters that have been fitting people into it say it’s not necessarily fair to even call this a muscle back because it’s not a true blade. It has the performance of something more forgiving. And then if you’re going into the cavity back line, I would say it casts a wider net for a a larger range of of golfers of all skill levels. If you’re just getting into the game of golf, no, probably not for you. But if you’ve been playing for some time and you know how to uh you know, you have you have an idea on how to hit a good iron shot and work the ball a little bit, uh the Cav is again a great option. And they they go a great distance. They’re super straight like I’ve said and it they have cast a big net in terms of who we’re looking for uh in the iron category. Yeah, it I mean again that look of those irons uh the the cavity back too looks pretty nice. It has like the sole looks pretty narrow but I I appreciate that um in an iron that I’m looking for as well. So maybe it’s something I’ll have to try a little bit for my bag. But um now so you mentioned one of the things too, Drew. Yeah, I was just gonna add one of the things when you mentioned the soul. Uh when we first did some testing with a guy like Fred Couples, uh you can watch the video on YouTube. He commented on the turf interaction. That was very important to him and I think we nailed that having tested the irons over many years is how do we get the perfect interaction whether it’s bent, whether it’s Bermuda, but he really noticed the ability. Holy smokes, I love the way this glides through the ball. We tested him in Florida down on some Bermuda grass. Uh, and he loved them. So, again, I think throughout all aspects of the iron, a very challenging and and unique process for us again because we’ve known putters for for so long going into the iron category. And again, uh, we know metal, we know forging, we know machining. Hey, what are golfers looking for? So, again, turf interaction, look, feel, performance, we nailed it, right? and and speaking on on a lot of those um you know construction processes that you just referred to on the wedges now. So as of now you know a player can get their whole bag dialed in you know from a high iron or down to uh you know a putter and and have all things bet and nardy. So, uh, talking about the wedges now, the HLX 6. Uh, so talk to me about, um, you know, the processes there. Uh, the design, the features, you know, what should golfers know about these the series of wedges? Yeah, similar process to the irons. Uh, you know, we’re we’re a family-owned business. My father’s a eight handicap. I’m a plus three. Uh, we love the game of golf. We’ve been around a long periods of times. So the process to me starts with him and I getting in a room and brainstorming with our engineering team uh what we liked about prior generations, what we want to improve upon, what have some tour players said about our our wedges, our irons, our putters, what does the consumer feedback look like, and again, how do we make it better year after year? So, I feel like on the new HLX6s, couple design features we did. We milled a deeper channel to to manipulate some of the CG, a longer huzzle, same comment, center of gravity from an aesthetic standpoint. Absolutely stunning with that fly milling in the back flange and then the honeycom milling on there as well. You have a milled grind sole. Um, and we tweaked the leading edge slightly to be able to have a better turf interaction. So, out of all the wedges to date, uh, I know this is the best wedge we’ve made. We’ve seen 10% lower launch and 12% more spin on the sixes versus fives. Um, and again, same thing comparing them to other brands out there. Uh, better performance. So, what I’m proud of is the fact that we can compete in in some of these markets in terms of performance. It’s just a challenge for a company like us who is more of a midsize family-owned business. We don’t have $100 million to go buy the tour, do magazine ads, commercials, all over the place. So it really comes down to fitters like at a second swing putting them in consumer’s hands and showing them the difference between a Bettonardi and another big brand. So uh at Studio B in Chicago we see that time time in and time out all day long of people comparing them their prior product and we’re we’re winning non-stop. Um so again it comes down to building the trust with our accounts letting them know we’re not just a putter brand. We do offer these additional products. They do perform and we’re seeing that. So, we’re not looking to shoot to the moon with growth. We like nice steady growth. Uh, very organic again in terms of our marketing and what we’re doing. And that’s the goal year in year out trying to get better and better performance and try to continue to grow the Betnard name. Yeah. I I I was going to ask a lot about what those things you just said. Um, as you know, you guys are kind of the family-owned small business and, you know, the the fact that the company isn’t as big as some of the other bigger uh the other names in golf, right? Um, but clearly I’m just I’m looking right now at at kind of the the the chat um interactions on our YouTube right now. Uh, and there’s a lot of people diving in there giving their personal, you know, feedback on the clubs they play, whether it’s the irons, putter, uh, some of the wedges. Uh, they are thrilled with the product. And so I guess what does it mean to be, you know, the family-owned small business, you know, making your products in the USA, um, and still be able to carve out a pretty good footprint of the golf market, um, when there’s all these bigger companies and like you said, budgetary things, commercials, right? There’s there’s a a quote unquote a disadvantage you guys are facing there, but still able to reach a ton of golfers. Yeah. I mean, it it means a lot. and you know competing against the big boys, the big four, they’re all billion-dollar brands, right? And that’s that’s tough. So we we know who we are and when you talk about all those comments and people that love our product, that’s so important to me because my name is on every product we make, right? We want to make sure that we’re manufacturing the best of the best because I have a reputation. Our brand has a reputation for the last again 25 plus years. My father started it. I want to keep going in the premium uh best-in-class performance, best-in-class product across all all of our brand, head covers, accessories, um irons, wedges, putters. So, we he was able to team me up with a very nice foundation when I started 12 years ago and that’s my job is to keep it going. Um so, again, it means a lot for those people that are saying that and that’s the goal every year. Yeah, it’s been obviously it’s been really cool just in my experience at second swing the last several years to kind of see the the growth uh of of betard as well and obviously diving into the various products. Now we have antidote um as part of it. We got irons. Uh it’s been really cool. So we have a few minutes left here and I what I want to do is invite those watching on YouTube to to ask any questions they might have. We actually had one submitted on Instagram I wanted to ask you about as well. Um, and that one was in particular with the antidote putters was the alignment features on there. So, um, what you have on the one is there’s kind of, you know, there’s the line here sort of back in the flange and there’s also a line actually perpendicular to the target. I don’t know if I can show it on the camera. Um, but so that’s a little different than there is on the SB2, um, which is basically three lines across. So, can you talk to me about just how Bettonardy came up with those designs and I guess the functions that they serve in terms of alignment? Yeah, it’s a great question. Uh, you know, if you’re looking at that picture right there with the SB1, uh, we felt that if there was no perpendicular line, you have too much mass or too much surface area in between the ball and the flange line. So, it needed something in that area. You know, we talked about a dot, talked about a smaller top line, and we really felt like that perpendicular line helped frame the ball and set up golfers uh, time and time again for success. And then when you look at the SP2, um, you know, Nick Volo, who’s a brand ambassador of ours, he personally uses the SP2 with a stainless top line and no lines on the flange, uh, or on that engine we call it, because he wants to just look at that front piece and rock his shoulders. So, when it came to designing this, again, we feel like that that top line on the stainless and the two lines on the engine help frame the ball the best. uh if that consumer that asked the question is interested in different alignments, we have a really new part of our website coming out in June where people will be able to customize their alignment and other features of the putter. So stay tuned for that. Wow. Yeah, that’s going to be really cool. Uh cuz you know, as as you know, I mean golfers can be kind of picky and fickle about things like that and so uh that’s going to be a really cool option I imagine for a lot of for a lot of golfers. Um, we did just get one in the uh the chat here from Preston. He said uh he’s asking what are your favorite face material in milling. So maybe kind of trying to it’s probably tough for you to try and pick a favorite of the the face milling and and designs that you that they’re available on the putters at from Bettonardy, but do you have a favorite of them? I do. I I personally love the fit base. Um to me it I mean I’ve gone back and forth between all the faces. It’s like who’s your favorite child? I have three children, so it’s hard to pick. But when it comes to the Fit Face, to me, it’s just so buttery soft. I I’ve been using it for so long. Uh and I I feel like I can be more aggressive in my putting style, and the Fit Face is perfect for that, right? And again, that’s the preferred face, the roll control, the fit face from our PGA Tour staff that are using and winning with the Betardy putters. Um, again on those greens that are 12, 13, 14s. If you use a honeycomb face, they feel like the ball comes off a little bit hot at times. If you use a fly mill, a lot of guys like fly mill, but that fit base gives a a distinct advantage where they can still be aggressive where they feel like the ball’s not flying off too hot. Sure. Um, so yes, to answer that, love the fit base and uh and row control. I got to say, aesthetically, the honeycomb is my favorite. um personally and but to your point I I I know what you mean about the speed kind of on the uh call it those those fast greens it can get be a little quick sometimes but again if you’re used to it and you get comfortable with it um I’m sure it’ll work for you. We got more questions coming in here. Um here’s one from Brian. Um here’s uh he said a lot of golfers have been switching or trying longer sweeper/broomstick options. Is that something Bet Nardy would work on? Uh stay tuned, Brian. Uh we are working on on a model like that. Uh the release date is TBD, but uh I can say uh safely that it isn’t a machine right now and waiting to see it myself. Uh I’m an arm lock guy. I personally don’t understand the long style putter because you now that you can’t anchor it. To me, it feels like, hey, my left hand, this is so free. But I know that trend and that style has caught fire. It’s it’s on tour and successful on tour. Uh, I messed around long in the past when I could anchor it. To me, it doesn’t feel as comfortable as now on my forearm, but um, stay tuned for that one. Yeah. All right. There we go. There’s a little insight. And, um, the last one here, um, the Yeah, exactly. We got a little bit of some insight there. So, lastly here as we start to wrap, I know you got to get going, uh, Sam. We didn’t want to take too much of your time. Um, just this was, uh, David asked this earlier. I think it’s maybe worth clarifying as well in terms of the antidote putters. Um what is the difference? He asks about face balanced and so what would be the difference I guess between you know putter that’s face balanced and then I guess what we have with the antidote which is which is zero torque. Could you maybe kind of differentiate those two and and the the feel and I guess performance difference that there would be there. Yeah. Uh great question David. on the face balance putters like a Queen V6 or an Innovate 6 spud. A lot of our spun neck models. To me, it’s great for golfers that are straight back straight through. And if you’re a a golfer that has more of an arc in your stroke or before zero torque, if you’re a golfer that wants something more stable and easier to come straight back straight through your stroke, a face balance option is a great putter for you. I have a lot of friends, a lot of family that say, “What what style putter should I try first? I want to get a new putter.” I would typically say, “Hey, number one, go get fit.” Right? The computer, our expert fitters, Quintac are going to tell you what the best model is for your stroke. If you don’t have time to do that, I would say go face balance. They’re the easiest putters to to roll. Now, enter zero torque. Zero torque is a whole new technology uh where again the shaft is inserted directly in line with the putter’s center of gravity that makes the putter want to stay square to square throughout the putter stroke. If you’re using a traditional face balance putter, there still is room for error. There still is room for your hands to get involved and close that putter down or push the putts. I’ve never seen an easier putter in my life to use than the Anidote putter because it wants to stay on that natural path. Uh I hope that makes sense. It’s something you got to roll and feel in in real life to see for yourself. But by having that shaft go directly in line with the CG, that’s where you’re you’re changing the technology of the putter to make it again easier. It’s almost like a game improvement iron in the Iron Tech. Uh where again, easier to launch. uh they go farther, right? Where if you want to use a a muscle back or a blade, they’re better for players that want to work a little bit more, but they’re not as forgiving. So again, when you go zero torque, it’s the most forgiving, most stable putter we’ve ever made. And that’s why I feel like people are running to it because it looks great, it feels great, and they work. Yeah, that’s a that’s a great way to to wrap things up here, I think. Um because again, the you mentioned the getting fit uh for your putter. Uh obviously at second swing we can do that. We’ve got quintch in our putter fitting bays. We’ve got betard putter models whether it is antidote or whether it is uh you know queen be studio stock innovate. We’ve got all the options for you to try out and we can get you dialed in on the greens and and making more putts. So I want to thank Sam for joining today. Uh it’s been a blast to to talk to you Sam uh just about all things Betardy. And um I think lastly, I’ll just say we wish you the best of luck throughout the year and um we hope things uh continue to to roll forward for Betardi moving forward.