TPI co-founder Dr. Greg Rose takes a deep dive into force plate data to show how elite players hit better wedge shots using the ground to create crisp contact and gain control over the low point in their swing arc.
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0:00 Intro
0:15 3 Key Things the best chippers in the world do
0:59 Analyzing professional golfer’s swing
2:45 Analyzing amateur golfer’s swing
4:01 Pelvic Punch Drill
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In a few decades we’ll be looking back at Dr. Rose and the TPI team as serious instruction pioneers (many of us already are). Great communicator.
Great video!!! More of these please 🙏
Great video. Also, I'm sure this will be plenty of fuel for Micah 😅
So the goal is to create separation ?
Idk if I’d consider Micah Morris (guy on the left) a typical amateur, but I see your point
Up and back – got it. Thank you for sharing your info.
Absolutely fascinating.
Is there a similar movement in bunkers? Would it give a shallow move through the ball?
Is this Micah? LOL
Always love listening to Greg.👌🏻
Dr. Greg is the only instructional golf video i watch. He is my bible! Question — how do you not top or skull the ball if you continue to go up? this is my common fault, need to understand how to correct it…
Im an old self taught 5 hcp,reasonable chipper, when asked by high hcps for a tip i say get to left side (obv!) and up through the ball,they never believe me as they have all been told to hit/move down on the ball.But it takes confidence and coordination
Cannot argue with science data. Will be on it at the short game area later today.
Why is the term of art ‘Ground Force’ used when in terms of cause and effect isn’t the ground which is creating the force it is Mass x Motion?
Something I realized when I went to work as a starter at a course sitting on the first tee watching people slice their first ball to the right into the wood and hook the second was they were losing balance without realizing it because from age 1 onwards our subconscious brains control balance for us.
What happens when we take up golf is our subconscious brains are dealing with new unbalancing for forces the golfer does not understand because of ‘buzzwords’ like ‘ground force’ entering the vocabulary.
The first reaction of the subconscious brain when it detects a potential loss of balance if play tug of war with a rope, or water skiing behind a boat would be to let go of rope to avoid getting pulled on ones face. But since one can’t let go of a golf club when its accelerating mass is pulling off balance the golfer will: 1) steer it with the hands to where it is not pulling off balance, then; 2) contract muscles to a) create leverage, and; b) shift body mass in the direction opposite the unbalancing force. The ground? It just sits there and the only force it exerts is gravity.
For years before reading Hogan’s Five Lessons I had been pronating my lead hand and swinging my club too far inside in my takeaway. From that baseline when I switched to Hogan’s ‘outside the hands / not wrist movement’ wide sweeping takeaways which generated an entirely different and NEW TO MY SUBCONSCIOUS BRAIN force vector it pulled me backwards off balance and that when I realized swinging it inside was my subconscious brain’s subconscious solution to the balance problem without consciously knowing it wasn’t the ideal path to swing hands and club head on to executed the rest the swing.
I had also purchased Tiger Woods 2002 book “How I Play Golf’ which has pull-out panels showing his swing from three different directions at the same time in stop action I was able to use to map out and duplicate ‘waypoints’ for hands and club head at his takeaway extension, impact/release, an the finish extension when the club force pulls on the lead and trail arms. By first learning them statically in between two mirror, then swinging between them with slowly increasing velocity I was experiencing swing force in directions my subconscious brain hadn’t dealt with before but was REPROGRAMING IT to by consciously focusing on whether or not I felt in balance. It did this over the winter break and when finally got a chance to hit balls the following swing I had an entire new and better one. So I decided to try an experiment…
I had someone with the same pronation – swing inside problem swing to backswing extension and hold it — / then I grabbed the club head and pulled in the direction the force vector the club was pointing, pulling them on their heels and off balance because the feet have no leverage to resist force in that direction which I explained. Then I showed them where hands and club should be relative to their feet at extension to put it on the ideal balanced path the top and back down automatically, had them hold and pulled on the club head. As I expected I also pulled them off their feet because their subconscious balance mechanism hadn’t ever felt an unbalancing force in that direction. I pulled 3-4 more times without saying a word and by the 4th pull the I could not budge them because their subconscious brain figured out how to solve the problem with muscle contraction in the legs and core and shift of body mass over the feet to create equilibrium.
It was easy for their brains to figure out because I was pulling with an even and EXAGGERATED force. But in an actual swing the kinetic energy increases exponentially with velocity which I think the tendency of the un-tutored golf to steer the club inside more and more as their takeaway velocity increases. By pulling on the club with about 2x more force than in an actual takeaway I was getting their brains trained to more than adequately deal with it. There was of course an immediate improvement in their down swing because: 1) they now consciously had the correct waypoints for hands and club-head at extension, and; 2) their subconscious brain had been trained to deal with 2x as much force trying to pull them off balance and had learned to deal with it. 😊
I then do the same swing then pull-club / reposition correctly / pull until reprogrammed exercise for their finish extension because the first correct which correct their chronic over the top, early extension slice caused them to start missing left due to balance problems in their finish nearly always the result of them not realize there is a side bend action needed in the finish to shift upper body mass over feet counter to the force in the finish that IDEALLY pulls trail arm straight and folds and externally rotates the lead one <—🤷🏼♂️ —>
Interesting observation. I would have never thought there was much body movement at all on a 30 foot chip. For me it’s always been like a putting stroke with no release. Now a 30 foot pitch or flop shot, there I could see so body movement, but would never have guessed up and back, weight towards the lead side definitely. For consistent contact on short pitch and chip shots the weight always stays on the lead foot and the body moves towards the target.
Thank you Dr. Rose for your research and observations. I find your work so fascinating.
Insightful as always!
Micha has had several lessons with different instructors, guess he is working on motions and pressures…
What I love about these videos is there is no frills, click bait etc… they give the goods and also some good drills to work on.
Scratch golfer for 40+ yrs, with different levels of chip yips for the past 20 years. Felt like I had tried every thought and feel. I believe this is the magic move that takes you from trying to put the club on the ball to just letting it happen. I never thought that it was a nervous twitch but just searching for positions on the downswing. Thankyou Dr.Greg. I have already spread the word to another ball striking yipper. We see the light.
Wow the most helpful chipping instruction I’ve found! Major helpful Dr thanks!🙏🙏🙏
How to overthink chipping:
Super cool to see this Dr. R. Stan Ultley told me to do exactly this when I saw him years ago for a lesson. I then saw the data to support this when I recently took the TPI Golf 2 course. You have summarized this nicely. Fascinating to see the data confirm what the short game masters figured out through years of trial and error.
Is that Micah in the "amateur" swing? Micah Morris now knows what he's doing wrong with his short game 😉
Super helpful. Thank you
Always great information and Dr. Rose is an incredible communicator! super entertaining and will be taking this to the range today!
If you watch Scottie on all his chip/pitch shots around the green, on his practice swings he takes that big step AWAY from the ball as he takes his practice swing. Literally ingraining what Dr. Greg is talking about here.
Damn is that Micah?
truly great info but any drills a mid handicap can practice this at the practice greens? without feet plates lol
Thats great for for my friend "THE DIVER"
God I hope I can do this😂 This would change my life!!😂
So Gary Player is wrong for telling me to keep my head down? Who could have imagined.