In this week’s edition, the guys discuss all the happenings at Torrey Pines, debate the slow-play epidemic on the PGA Tour, and preview Scottie Scheffler’s return at Pebble Beach. #GolfChannel #Golf #pgatour
Chapters:
(00:00) – Hello and welcome!
(02:00) – Harris English claims Tour win No. 5 at Torrey Pines
(06:00) – Is Torrey a stout test or a bore?
(10:00) – Pace of play continues to dominate Tour events/broadcasts
(15:00) – What to make of Farmers’ Saturday finish, weak field, spot on the schedule
(22:00) – Ludvig Aberg, two amateurs turn heads at Torrey — for different reasons
(27:00) – Scottie and Spieth return at Pebble
(33:00) – The debut of “Love It or Lav It”!
(41:00) – Quick hits: St. Andrews return, Tiger/Rory TGL, PGA is anti-rollback
(47:00) – Listener questions
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Harris English winning was a great win this week. For the first time since 2016 when Sneds won at -6, the winning score didnt break -10. I agree with Lav, I think this was a unique circumstance for why the field wasnt good, a lot of them didnt want to get beat up by the South Course twice in 3 weeks. This course was probably the hardest it played since Sneds won it at -6 and they had to finish on Monday. I dont think Farmer Insurance should move, its a case where a lot of the media think this tournament will only survive if the superstars (like 20 of them) show up. We had a great story with Sam Stevens. He was -4 thru 12 (-7 overall) when CBS started. He dunked his ball on the 2nd shot at 18. If he didnt he could have won if not forced a playoff. I checked Harris went from 23rd to 5th in the Ryder Cup standings. If he can keep up this good play he should be on the team as a wildcard if not auto lock for Keegan. I think it will be interesting to see how Scottie and Jordan do. I hope the media tempers down expectations for Scottie. He came off a hot 2024. Winning 7 times 9 overall. I would expect some rust if not some issues holding the club. He was working out with a brace on his hand he injured making ravoli, picture on X. Thanks for answering my question guys. I was asking what if more superstars like Scottie and Jordan committed to TGL. I think Billy was joking in his interview with Marty Smith but I think said producer Jeff was pissed. I would love to see the ratings for those that started a match but didnt finished it. Last weeks match I finished thru the 12th hole. Atlanta won 4-0. I wouldnt call it a blowout. It wasnt bad. They got 682K. I think the goal is 700-750K. 919 for match 1 was curiousity. Tiger playing in week 2 brings the viewers hence 1 million. No Tiger No Rory 682K. Match 4 viewership will be interesting since its Monday at 630PM/330PM
There should be a shot clock. Range finders should be legal.
That is part of the appeal of golf, different courses allowed varied outcomes. -35 one week and -8 the next…
6 hours to make 68 shots. and they cock-block one of the most popular golfers on the entire planet. PGA is following the dictates of Jay Monahan very well. What a frigging boring tour. I dont even watch highlights any more. They are killing themselves with every move they make
Have a rules official on each hole, one on the tee, one in the fairway and one by the green. 3 officials times 18 holes is 54. Maybe 18 would be better. There are very intelligent minds who can figure this out and not use a shot clock. The time should be measured by the rules officials. If a player takes longer than 15 minutes to play a hole, they should have a stroke penalty. 4 hours and 30 minutes to play 18 holes. If it takes longer than that, those players should be penalized strokes. 1 stroke per hole that is over 15 minutes. 😊🎉❤
No, you don’t need to “address” it , just change it , easy
WHY does the PGA continue to have a signature event at Pebble Beach in WINTER !
For years, the clowns at TGC were defending slow play.
Slow play? This is horrendously SLOOOOOOWWWW 👎🏼
Changes need to be made NOW. Broadcasts suck when you can watch a movie during a round, get a workout in & still think this damn broadcast is long as heck.
🐌 pace is ridiculous 👎🏼
Put a marker in each group with a shot clock and start assessing penalties. Thats what its going to take. But broadcast showing Aberg eating a banana. Max Homa on his cell phone. Show someone else hitting a shot. Who cares if they are +5 just show some golf!
Love or hate LIV, the best part about it is that with a shotgun start you know it'll be a 4 hour round and can tune in with 9 holes to play, see all the players and watch entertaining golf in 2 hours time.
The biggest problem with slow play is that some amateurs think it’s acceptable. I play with a couple of 15+ handicappers who take 4-7 practice springs. It’s ridiculous.
If the Genesis invitational goes to Torrey pines, what happens to the farmers insurance open, do they remove it or change golf courses.
Night golf on a professional level is a joke to me. Golf is a day time sport. It always has been. To change that is not good. It’s not football or basketball, where they play in an arena or on a field with lights.
The TGL to me is a complete failure. Golf is not meant to be played in front of a screen. It’s meant to be played outside. Find a warm place to play, Southern Nevada, Southern Arizona, Southern New Mexico, Southern California, Southern Florida, Southern Texas. All of these should be warm now. Well warmer than the East coast. Find a new course that has never been played at, a championship course from each of these states and play there. Play golf outside.
Looool. Pretends to cover LIV yet crickets when they get on Fox, sign Rick Shiels and get a Callaway deal in the same week. Threatened much?
Keegan Bradley, 1st hole of the tournament, 2nd shot out of the fairway bunker on a par 5, he debated with his caddy for like 2 minutes about going for it with a 4 iron. The guy hits the massive lip and it was basically a layup which he should have hit anyway. Those are the guys. The old heads from the Tiger Era. Just look at who's been successful in TGL, the slow play old heads can't do it.
LAV IT! Rex's Beef's! -8 winning, love it!
Slow play, LAV IT!
Rick Shiels going to LIV, LAV IT!
This pod, Love It!
Thanks as always gents!
SERIOUSLY.. they don't have the GUTS..tiger woods plays slow you gona penalize him – NOPE – you SHOULD! because SLOW PLAY is PAINFUL to watch 😴
like the suggestion of having slow play being an official statistic and the associated public humiliation. Also would like to see the slow play statistic become a tie breaker for every finishing position with exception to 1st, that would get their attention.
The caddies should just handle the clubs. Let the Pros figure out their own shots.Too much discussion before every shot
New stat… Strokes Gained: Pace of Play. PGAT officials have to start calling out the repeat offenders for slow play. DPWT has been better at it for a while, but might have relaxed a bit recently. Stroke penalties will hurry them up. Maybe it’s time a specific model of range finder was allowed in tournament play. Slow play on tour doesn’t help us at the club level, weekend rounds blowing out to 5 hours is rubbish.
Appreciate the shout out in the #asklav segment. Keep up the quality content!
The issue is that you have huge fields on mainland USA in January…people, it gets dark at 545 in the afternoon, that’s a lot of players to get through.
Now add 45 MPH winds, US Open length rough, rock hard greens and have them roll at 12.5 and split tees and you have a recipe for disaster…
I mean you can’t penalize anyone for slow play because they aren’t ever out of position…and furthermore, the slow play talk dies every year because when 2somes start on the first, the 5 hour rounds go away.