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It’s time to re-think how you aim. For decades, you’ve been told that the gateway to straighter shots (and a more consistent game) was to aim “square” or “parallel” to the target, however, despite conforming to this standard, your shots aren’t straighter and your game continues to be frustratingly inconsistent.
It makes LOGICAL sense to aim square to the target, but not MECHANICAL sense. If you understood how the body, limbs, and club work throughout the golf swing, then you’d know this to be true, but you don’t understand all of the intricacies of the golf swing (and neither should you), so you continue to persevere with an outdated and regurgitated message from the mainstream golf industry which is equally out of date.
Pulling your trail foot back at set-up and playing with a more “closed” stance is a mechanically better way to set-up and swing. I’ll share 5 reasons why you should be doing this and the best thing about this is it takes ZERO PRACTICE. You can do this on the very next golf shot you hit and begin to see the benefits INSTANTLY.
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35 Comments
Hi All!🙂
Great video once again Rob. I'd imagine this works for hybrids? Are there any specifics for a hybrid?
In Hogan's Five Lessons he lays out diagrammatically exactly how he makes this exact setup adjustment and ties it into the length of the club he is swinging. He also makes the point of keeping his right foot square to the target to insure he does not allow the hips to over-rotate. Thanks Rob!
Full swing version of the wrench basically? Shoulder line square to the target, not just aiming right, correct?
Great video as always, Rob. Does this technique hinder the finish where most (if not all) of your weight is on the left side? Thanks again!
Been doing this for about 4 months now. Absolutely helps with more power and greatly improves draw bias. I'm totally sold.
You"ve helped me in so many ways with your coaching technique but this might just be the most important to me. As an ex-jock I've always had over active hips and this will slow me down. Thanks much-Be well-Russ
Rob, excellent video. One question about shoulder alignment adjustment, though. If you close your stance like this, what kind of setup tweaks do you suggest?
Does this work with the wrench?
Can we give Jim Venetos some credit for this? He has been teaching this for years. I’m sure though he’s not the first 🤷♂️
Hi Rob, another great video. Does this technique also apply to the wedges? Thanks.
Rob, I've gone 100 percent to playing like this with all my clubs. This works!
Rob, Another great video and great content. Andy Plummer and Steve Sieracki both had me doing this at my sessions with them and it's made a world of difference in consistency of strike and a push draw shot shape.
Keep the great videos coming. You're site is the best there is for us "average" golfers to improve our games.
I’ve been doling this for a bit now and massively improved the longer clubs. You just need to play around with each club and how far back you want to pull the rear foot and you’ll see more/less draw
I’m always impressed with your videos Mr. Cheney. This one might be one of your best. Such excellent explanation and demonstration of how this fixes so many things. My dad experimented with the flamingo drill (which puts you in a very similar position) and he had one of his best rounds. This is gold and he and I will be sure to give this a go.
Great video Rob! I've been pulling the trail leg back & flaring my feet out since I found you a few years ago & it makes a big difference for an old timer like me.
I have adopted a version of this in my full swing this past season. Only I go full on flamingo or stork stance. My ball striking feels like it has improved and been simplified. I started doing this because I would always hit it well in the flamingo drill. Do you see a big difference between a flamingo stance vs your right foot back (which seems more like taking a closed foot stance)?
I will add this to my pre shot routine
i like to draw the ball but what if i need to hit a fade occasionally, what then
Another fantastic tip! I do this but placing it back a little further the longer the club really helps, especially with the driver! Much better shallowing of the club and more club speed. Stack and tilt!! Thanks Rob!
What happens to the shoulder line at setup when you adopt the closed hip stance? Are the shoulders square or closed to the ball-target line? Thanks Rob.
nice simulator setup
Rob, would this work even if i don’t use stack and tilt ??
Brilliant tip, and great explanation of why it works. Had a lesson in the summer, and was instructed to do this and woah the difference in ball striking and confidence was immense. I'm very broad due to years of bodybuilding, and always swayed massively of the ball so had very inconsistent ball striking. I now stripe the ball going from shooting in the 90's to the 80's. Was never explained why it works, but now I know.. Thanks 👍
Adhere to S&T and it's been good for me !
Have been moving my trail foot back as well and it's also a benefit !
Of late I have tried to narrow my stance and be a bit more neutral grip club face orientation etc – ie a little bit at a time – gentle swing always find more centre of face –
When it all comes together it's excellent.
That isn't always ! – so swing easy !
Your headline says "Youv'e been lied to…". This is obviously ludicrous and is a red flag for your credibility. Golf, like tennis, is a game of civility and maturity. Time to acquire some class.
Youtube golf instruction = "Pick your poison" 😂 I have stop watching a time ago after getting my fundamentals. But i still get vids in my feed, is like YT wants you to start "gambling" again lol. I JUST got a vid suggested, and the title was "Stop this before its to late", and its about placing the trail foot back like you show now LOL..For me its just a giggle now, but i feel sry for all the confused ppl out there, that are stuck in this limbo, and probably dont even have time to play and try all the diffrent things, before already changing..Tiger said "stop watch YT", wich in theory sounds good, but everyone knows ppl cant do that. Plus coaches (everyone is a "coach" nowdays) need to push content, so its never gonna stop..Btw this is no critic to you, you are brilliant and the results ofc speaks for them self. Just wanted to get it of, since that video title summed it up so perfect ➡⬅ Cheers
How interesting.
Just watched a vid that explains why this is a VERY BAD idea.
It may work for a week or two but will hurt your game alot in the long run by forcing an out to in swing and causing difficulties during the follow through leading to dangerous back injuries over time.
Is that Charles Howell III you used as your first example pro swing? Flaring the rear foot out is another way to let the rear hip rotate deeper, and keep it back longer. Granted I suspect when most people go to set their right foot back they'd automatically flare it at the same time. A potential negative I could see as an offshoot of pulling the rear foot back is someone could excessively close the rest of their alignment too. From there they may have a lot of misses to the right. Then to counter that they start making pulling motions with their arms and upper body to compensate. It's an ugly combination I've seen done by other players far too often.
Thanks for your video 👍. Any disadvantages in pulling your trail leg back ? Greetings from Luxembourg 🇱🇺
Off to the 1st tee in an hour… it's be a warm and humid 30 degrees here in on the NSW Central Coast, and I'm going to give this a try. Anything to reduce the amount of walking off to the right, hunting for the ball in amongst the trees 😀
No secret about the effects of a closed stance
But there is a negative tradeoff from a closed stance
Less ability to rotate your pelvis on the downswing forcing a golfer into a more arms/ hands downswing.
While some might find it beneficial to experiment with a closed , stance others might it hurts more than it helps .Some might even find it better to use a slightly open stance ( front foot pulled back ) , which will facilitate rotation going down.
Before adopting either an open stance or aclosed stance , it might be better to experiment with a flaring one or both feet outward .
I am
Actually trying to hit a bit of a pull fade. When I trade it hit a fade my face and path is somewhere between 1-2° I get to far I/O when trying to hit a push draw. I overswing as actually turn my upper body and look back. I need to shorten and get a little more lined up left so basically I’m opposite of this. 😬🤷
I use this setup to help discourage an over the top swing. However, I still struggle to get a consistent in to out swing path. Tucking the right elbow in helps. Typically I’m about 2 to 3 degrees o to I. Any suggestions how to stop my shoulder issue?
Hey Rob . I’m a student of yours for the last few months and your teachings have been a literal game changer for me! This video however has been the light bulb moment I’ve needed ! Thanks so much mate your content is much appreciated ❤