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Title: How The Rays ‘Moneyball’ Strategy Finally Ruined Them
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  1. couldn't get very far into this vid. I'm sure you worked hard on it, but the thought process is still rather lazy. They work with what they got, and there are a lot of factors that contribute to them being a .500 team. But there is still plenty of season left.

  2. Red Sox take is looking really good rn 👍👍👍 Also Idk how you can say the moneyball approach ruined the Rays when Wander Franco was literally a face of the franchise players and he’s literally never gonna play again along with their ace being out lol. I don’t like the analytic approach but these takes are horrendous

  3. Dude, wow. A team loaded with injuries lost in the playoffs. The system is just fine. And no, they will never spend money… because they don't have any.

  4. Watching this after Eflin and Randy getting traded. Rays fans like us cant have nice things I guess.

  5. Click bait video.

    Orioles have almost their whole roster pre-arbitration. Burnes is a pending FA. Eflin has only 1 year left. Wait till their roster gets into their 3rd & 4th year of arbitration years.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$.

  6. Dawg they just got 15 prospects from the deadline the cycle is back on and they haven’t broken the cycle they will be back and back soon it’s more of a retool they always find a way to

  7. Moneyball is just theyre way of making rigged sports halfway make senee

    Really its alllll bullshit & they ALL WORK FOR VEGAS

    JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER THING YOU CAN BET ON

  8. Trading Glasnow to L.A. didn’t help.

    Trading away all of those players isn’t a good look for a team already struggling to attract fans.

  9. The Rays did well for years considering their low payroll.
    Outside the WF saga which went beyond the team's control, their biggest issue was a string of freak injuries. But considering how the team was absolutely horrible for a decade before 2008 – I don't think a ton of Rays fans are in deep panic. If the team loses 95+ games next season, yes.
    I would say that the Indians/Guardians too have had the same framework for ages now, and they have been doing very well lately.

  10. Rays have NOT followed money ball. Everyone knows about money ball, so the good teams do something else. The next evolution of data in baseball is finding players to make better, NOT players who are already good at something and buying them cheap. The problem for the Rays is they can find pitchers and develop them, but they are awful at finding hitters.
    The Dodgers are so good because they follow the Rays data methods but will spend $$$ as well, best of both worlds.

  11. Betts was coming up when they pulled Snell, they showed Betts in the dugout and he was shocked and thrilled. It was all over his face. He was about to come to the plate in his head, worrying, knowing he's about to face Snell who (1) has had his number and (2) has been absolutely dealing the entire game. But in an instance he had all his confidence and swagger back. All of LA was so hyped after Cash pulled Snell. WORST decision in Rays franchise history.

  12. Cash is NOT a good manager. In baseball data is huge, but anyone who has watched baseball knows there is a rhythm or 'feel' for the game. He can't operate inside the world of data AND feel that baseball is. Snell is the extreme/obvious example of this, but he is like this always. This year he tried to be more 'feel' side but it's obvious he is not good at it. But the Rays success you say… Yes, yes. The Rays are built to get to the playoffs. That's it. They hope for the best at that point. The Rays bank on players meeting a set of prospective goals, or stats. They presume if they meet these they will be in contention. It does not matter if they all are hot at once, or cold at once, over the course of a season they expect they will be in the playoff hunt. So the Rays don't mind a 6 for 12 stretch because they figure they will get a 13-5 stretch to keep them in playoff hunt. But once they get to the playoffs, the Rays style of 'being good over 162 games' is worthless because they can no longer endure a losing streak.
    And a final note, the Rays are good at finding pitchers and making the, good. However, they are not good at finding and developing hitters. Their offense is miserable and far to streaky.

  13. Irony alert: the team that the MONEYBALL movie was made about (Oakland) is now headed to Las Vegas because it sits dead last is average attendance.

  14. Moneyball doesn’t work because it makes the team a self sustainable project. Small investment and good choices makes sense but only works a few times. The best players of the team are let go and there is no investment in the team. It is a cycle of the owners thinking they can replicate it but at the end of the day you have to value what you have and repay it. Also look at the A’s. Moneyball is greed and lack of love for the game!

  15. Beaches OVER Baseball! Move the Ray's to the Buc's area and build a NEW 21st-century Sporting/Event Complex with new stadiums for both side by side, sharing the Village, Parking, Etc, with DOMED Roofs so the complex can actually be used in the summer or during bad weather for EMS, Concerts, Conventions, Rallys, Tournaments, etc.

    Everyone should be HOUNDING the phones of the Ray's Bucs and Elected folk to get the TPA Al Lopez site Redevelopment Plan off the ground! This is a once In a lifetime opportunity!

  16. Well I don’t think money ball is going to be the reason the team is ruined. It’s going to be about the stadium and where the team plans on playing next. They could move out of Tampa Bay all together.

  17. The league has a .511 winning percentage? Did he mean to say “American League”?

    How’s MLB have anything other than a .500 for league average winning percentage?

  18. There’s only one true moneyball team to win the World Series IMO – the 2002 Angels. Aside from their running game, that is the definition of a moneyball team. They got MAX value out of a bunch of castoffs and hand me downs from other teams. Working count and getting on base? They did that a ton.

    And the next season, a near identical team failed to make the playoffs. Angels fans at the time can tell you that A LOT of things went right in 2002. Against everyone else’s aces and stacked lineups, the playoffs become a crapshoot. The Angels managed to rise to the occasion in the most unexpected ways. But to do that consistently would be a near miracle.

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