On the business front, I'm ok with Levy getting money in as I do remember back when Alan Sugar was buying the club just to save it. We forget we weren't always flush with money…
Curiously I feel optimistic despite the result. The defensive performance is showing a lack of defensive midfielders and will improve. Having 9 players out is bizarre especially in key areas My areas of concern other than the make shift defence is that right side. Porro, for whatever reason is defensive weak link for me. Give Spence a run on the right. Also the lack of tracking back by the wingers. Johnson is lacking in dynamism and never takes his full back on But I still keep the faith in Ange
Another good video mate I will keep saying it I'm 100% ange let him build something back him i wish that the media would stop asking him the same question about style of play thanks for all your work merry Christmas to you and your family
Cheers Ally! Great stuff as always. Have to say I think the ongoing discussions around consistency and style of play are kind of red herrings, ultimately we've looked ragged for a calendar year now, and are 11th in the league.
Injuries etc are affecting his ability to manage us effectively, but again bottom line, we look badly managed. Disorganised, discouraged, unsure, shambles in defence, in the press, off the ball generally. The worst we've been on that side of the ball in a very long time I would say. Not helped by, I think, quite a few players who are unreliable, fairweather, naive. Whatever the opposite of a Roy Keane or a James Milner is lol. Individual decision making by much of the team is regularly horrendous.
I think right now we should keep battling and see where we come out, but we saw what a serious, committed, well organised team looks like on Sunday, with the required quality to boot. We got the total dismantling we in a way needed I would argue. Certainly a game that reflected the reality of where this team is at. I have almost always predicted positive (some would say deluded) results, but I went 5-2 Liverpool, yeah 6-3. Sort of a pointless statement of opinion but I don't think we've looked any better when we were at full strength. We've bumped into some attacking teams playing very badly and had some big wins, but we've been largely awful for a year. It's quite clear that opposing managers can, if they have the capacity, get organised against this Spurs team and do very well against us. We're easy to play against. We just are. Again its a qualitative statemwnt but I think you can tell from the prematch interviews, opposing managers utterly unconcerned. We soldier on but for 6+ months now I just don't see it.
Excuses, excuses, excuses, so many excuses for every situation. Why is it that the players are always getting injured? Why don’t we have suitable replacements for key or even squad players? The fan base shouldn’t be getting blamed because some of them are fed up with excuses every year.
I am a supporter of the rebuild and feel that Ange should be given more time. I also appreciate you admitting that Ange got the Djed Spence decision wrong. With that in mind, he must be pressed on something other than TACTICS, and I'm hoping that the focus of the next press conference and that is on Ange's lack of rotating the players and his lack of trust in some of the "2nd team" or fringe players.
I applaud you mentioning Djed Spence in how him barely playing at the start of the year and being left off the Europa squad is probably related to Porro's decline. However, this is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg for Ange's rotation problem. The first instance is Radu and that he should have been getting way more minutes last year, as well as this.That experience would have prepared him for that first Europa game, but instead he goes in basically "cold" and gets sent off. Poor planning on Ange's part.
Another problem is him playing Archie Gray at CB, when he's got Alfie Dorrington just sitting there on the bench. Yes many, including yourself, laud Gray for being the "amazing 18-year-old," but he hasn't done a remarkable job as a true CB (he could be faulted for both Forster errors against MU as you rightly pointed out). Alfie is just as old as Archie and he truly is a CB, thus he should be given far more minutes, especially as Archie tires. The latter could have then been playing LB and Spence RB, his natural position (he plays pretty good on the left, but you can see him struggle when he's pressed on his right foot).
Another rotation suggestion is how about bedding in Brandon Austin in the 2nd half of the 5-0 Southampton game? Maybe Ange wanted the clean sheet, but the reality is if Forster gets injured, Brandon is playing with NO experience. I'm sure I could find a few more examples, but you may brush my post off as too long as it is…
Anyway, I applaud you in trying to get Ange to talk about slightly "off-the-beaten-path" subjects, and I would worry about saying the wrong thing like several journalists do. Please try to get him onto the topic of rotation and trust of his "lesser" players," as I think that will be essential for him to address sooner rather than when it's too late. Cheers, Scott Rozell, Portland, OR
No one is asking Ange to park the bus for 90 mins. However, Ange is making Spurs too easy for our opponents. Same formation for 90 mins every game. No tactical change and no subs until too late in the 2nd half are where we dropped many points this season.
Last season is easier because opponents haven't played against Ange and Spurs had no European football. This season most teams know where Spurs' weakness are because Ange never change his formation or tactics. Even though Spurs improved the squad during the summer, our opponents already learnt a thing or two on how to stop us.
The minute I see the starting lineup against Liverpool I knew the team will struggle to keep up with Liverpool. It's the same 11 players who played against MU on Thursday. Some players like Kulu and Solanke still shown incredible stamina but other players like Porro, Son, Bissouma, and Sarr are struggling from the start.
Firing Ange really does nothing but put us even farther into our rebuild. New manager, new style of play, etc could take another 2-3 years to work and even then its a gamble. I don't love sticking with the same system every single time and it isnt something I would put into place but I guess thats why I coach high school soccer and not in the prem lol.
I generally only listen to Ali’s takes on games now and especially in tough times. It’s so painful to listen to so many ludicrous fan/media reactions. Maybe that’s just what tends to get clicks but either way your doing god’s work Ali thanks ❤️
Tired players or not, and even though we are carrying injuries, our win/loss ratio is no worse than they were when we had a fully fit squad. Look at the facts not the manager and media excuses.
This manager is only a season and a half into the rebuild he has cleared out a full squad he diddent need he has brought in the very best young talent in Europe these youngsters will make mistakes because there so young but this will only stand to them for next season plus we have some excellent young talent coming in next season just one is a monster luka vuskovic scoring goals for fun as a defender I've always said it would take until the 3th season to see anjes plan bare fruit I can clearly see what anje is trying to do he is sticking with the plan and is not parking the bus like some fans want I rather us loosing by playing football no matter how many goals we concede than stop playing football by parking the bus because we would learn nothing from parking the bus these youngsters will only be stronger and more experienced for next season we will be a force next seadon wait and see
ange talks alot about bringing success to the club. id love if you could ask for his understanding of what success looks like at Tottenham. love the man, just thought it would be interesting to understand what, how and where he feels like he can take us?
감독이 오직 한개의 전술로만 프리미어리그에서 살아남을수 있을까? 그렇지 않다 포스테코는 고집을 넘어 아집으로 선수들의 부상을 초래하는 전술만 고집하고 밀어붙이고 있다 아마 전술에 대한 자신이 없어서 주구장창 무조건 공격축구를 이행하고있다 그의 전술은 무엇보다 선수들의 부상을 초래하고 선수들의 체력까지 갈아넣는 무식한 축구일뿐이다 그는 머리를 두뇌를 전혀 사용하지 않는다 아니 아마 그럴만한 머리가 되지않아서일까 슬롯감독이 경기 임하기전 이미 토트넘에서 어떻게 나올지 알기에 대응하는 것은 쉬웠을것이다 역습으로 다 토트넘 발려버렸지않는가 왜 포스테코는 플랜 b도 플랜c도 없이 프리미어리그에서 계속 나아간다는것은 그의 무지고 무식이다 아마 다른 감독들이 속으로 비웃고 있을지도 모른다 프리미어리그의 격을 그가 떨어뜨리고 있는것이다 감독이란자가 전술이 없다는게 말이 되는가 에휴
Let’s stop being divided on Ange he’s brilliant and building something genuinely amazing he just needs time, how long did it take Ferguson at united, believe in the process people! we will win the EFL or Europa possibly both assuming we get key players back soon and make a couple wise moves in January, we need a solid back up to Vicario 🤕and a CB
I looked back at Clopp at Liverpool after 18months of his tenure. Guess that was when managers were understandably given time to build a team. For me Ange is by far the best manager yet. He does have a clear vision and likes to bring the youngsters on. He is half way through the build leave it be.
Ange is out of his depth a one trick pony, no other manager would of played that way against Liverpool with a depleted squad clueless, Scotland Japan is his level.
I don't like the way Ange keeps using the royal "we" in his press conferences–"the way WE want the club to go in," when what he really means is "the way I want the club to go in." Alasdair's point about how the defence always has to be 100% on their game shows clearly the limitations in Ange's utopian approach. Football is a game of mistakes, they inevitably happen, and in a defensive sense it's about risk management and trying to minimize the negative effects of likely errors by having back-ups. The glaring flaw in Ange's system is that it's one defender light; he either needs to play a third centre back or keep the full backs further back, otherwise opposition teams are simply going to rip us apart (the long diagonal ball over Porro's head, as AG pointed out). But Ange appears to be completely wedded to his system in a way that seems to have become almost pathological, which is why he's snapping at reporters who are asking the most obvious questions. I have no problem with the idea of "time and patience" if it looks as though the train is heading in the right direction, but at the moment it clearly isn't. It's not a question of injuries, it's the reckless system he's playing which will never work consistently in the Premier League.
We're such a bad fanbase, it's painful. We all know the way Spurs is covered in the press is different to every other team, the losses are highlighted the wins are not, and our fans crumble under the pressure of Sky Sports and TalkSports coverage of our team every time! Instead of showing conviction and backing the exciting, longterm project under a revolutionary head coach like Ange we whinge and cry under the weight of the national media. It's embarrassing listening to it from fans in the stadium and online. Back your team, back your manager – this takes time, like it has for every single Premier League manager at the start of a rebuild. Ange is trending similar to Klopp and Arteta, with some good will and big support we can win a cup this year. Continue the negativity and it'll go against us once more. Show a pair of balls lads. Come on You Spurs ⚪️
We must be the only fanbase in the PL that doesn't want success. Full of yuppy corporate types who only want a successful business and believe Levy's propaganda.
We have been blinded by a short term vision for the last 20 plus years in changing our Manager every 12 -18 months. How many trophy's has this short term strategy produced ?
Spurs over 2 decades are the punching bag by the biased media, majority of the other fans & a contingency of the home boo mob. Other big teams some with heritage also have not won a trophy since 2008. NUFC, EVERTON, WOLVES, FOREST, VILLA Yet they punch Spurs…
well said Alasdair. Put the best Manager in the world with the same players n injuries wont change things some players are excess baggage they are great playing for other teams but when they are with us they just dont make the grade
I think a Postecoglu team needs a squad a plenty of rotation akin to the kind of squads Manchester City and Liverpool have had. Not a squad of superstars but players that can contribute at any time. The likes of Origi, Joe Gomez come to mind
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On the business front, I'm ok with Levy getting money in as I do remember back when Alan Sugar was buying the club just to save it. We forget we weren't always flush with money…
Curiously I feel optimistic despite the result. The defensive performance is showing a lack of defensive midfielders and will improve. Having 9 players out is bizarre especially in key areas
My areas of concern other than the make shift defence is that right side. Porro, for whatever reason is defensive weak link for me. Give Spence a run on the right. Also the lack of tracking back by the wingers. Johnson is lacking in dynamism and never takes his full back on
But I still keep the faith in Ange
Another good video mate I will keep saying it I'm 100% ange let him build something back him i wish that the media would stop asking him the same question about style of play thanks for all your work merry Christmas to you and your family
All the people that thought Romero was the problem, do they still think that?
Cheers Ally! Great stuff as always. Have to say I think the ongoing discussions around consistency and style of play are kind of red herrings, ultimately we've looked ragged for a calendar year now, and are 11th in the league.
Injuries etc are affecting his ability to manage us effectively, but again bottom line, we look badly managed. Disorganised, discouraged, unsure, shambles in defence, in the press, off the ball generally. The worst we've been on that side of the ball in a very long time I would say. Not helped by, I think, quite a few players who are unreliable, fairweather, naive. Whatever the opposite of a Roy Keane or a James Milner is lol. Individual decision making by much of the team is regularly horrendous.
I think right now we should keep battling and see where we come out, but we saw what a serious, committed, well organised team looks like on Sunday, with the required quality to boot. We got the total dismantling we in a way needed I would argue. Certainly a game that reflected the reality of where this team is at. I have almost always predicted positive (some would say deluded) results, but I went 5-2 Liverpool, yeah 6-3. Sort of a pointless statement of opinion but I don't think we've looked any better when we were at full strength. We've bumped into some attacking teams playing very badly and had some big wins, but we've been largely awful for a year. It's quite clear that opposing managers can, if they have the capacity, get organised against this Spurs team and do very well against us. We're easy to play against. We just are. Again its a qualitative statemwnt but I think you can tell from the prematch interviews, opposing managers utterly unconcerned. We soldier on but for 6+ months now I just don't see it.
Excuses, excuses, excuses, so many excuses for every situation. Why is it that the players are always getting injured? Why don’t we have suitable replacements for key or even squad players? The fan base shouldn’t be getting blamed because some of them are fed up with excuses every year.
I am a supporter of the rebuild and feel that Ange should be given more time. I also appreciate you admitting that Ange got the Djed Spence decision wrong. With that in mind, he must be pressed on something other than TACTICS, and I'm hoping that the focus of the next press conference and that is on Ange's lack of rotating the players and his lack of trust in some of the "2nd team" or fringe players.
I applaud you mentioning Djed Spence in how him barely playing at the start of the year and being left off the Europa squad is probably related to Porro's decline. However, this is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg for Ange's rotation problem. The first instance is Radu and that he should have been getting way more minutes last year, as well as this.That experience would have prepared him for that first Europa game, but instead he goes in basically "cold" and gets sent off. Poor planning on Ange's part.
Another problem is him playing Archie Gray at CB, when he's got Alfie Dorrington just sitting there on the bench. Yes many, including yourself, laud Gray for being the "amazing 18-year-old," but he hasn't done a remarkable job as a true CB (he could be faulted for both Forster errors against MU as you rightly pointed out). Alfie is just as old as Archie and he truly is a CB, thus he should be given far more minutes, especially as Archie tires. The latter could have then been playing LB and Spence RB, his natural position (he plays pretty good on the left, but you can see him struggle when he's pressed on his right foot).
Another rotation suggestion is how about bedding in Brandon Austin in the 2nd half of the 5-0 Southampton game? Maybe Ange wanted the clean sheet, but the reality is if Forster gets injured, Brandon is playing with NO experience. I'm sure I could find a few more examples, but you may brush my post off as too long as it is…
Anyway, I applaud you in trying to get Ange to talk about slightly "off-the-beaten-path" subjects, and I would worry about saying the wrong thing like several journalists do. Please try to get him onto the topic of rotation and trust of his "lesser" players," as I think that will be essential for him to address sooner rather than when it's too late.
Cheers,
Scott Rozell, Portland, OR
No one is asking Ange to park the bus for 90 mins. However, Ange is making Spurs too easy for our opponents. Same formation for 90 mins every game. No tactical change and no subs until too late in the 2nd half are where we dropped many points this season.
Last season is easier because opponents haven't played against Ange and Spurs had no European football. This season most teams know where Spurs' weakness are because Ange never change his formation or tactics. Even though Spurs improved the squad during the summer, our opponents already learnt a thing or two on how to stop us.
The minute I see the starting lineup against Liverpool I knew the team will struggle to keep up with Liverpool. It's the same 11 players who played against MU on Thursday. Some players like Kulu and Solanke still shown incredible stamina but other players like Porro, Son, Bissouma, and Sarr are struggling from the start.
Oh ali 😂😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
Firing Ange really does nothing but put us even farther into our rebuild. New manager, new style of play, etc could take another 2-3 years to work and even then its a gamble. I don't love sticking with the same system every single time and it isnt something I would put into place but I guess thats why I coach high school soccer and not in the prem lol.
Fact Spurs were awful before the injury crisis.
Fact Spurs were terrible starting with game 11 last season.
Ange is incompetent and has to go before he takes us down to the Championship
I generally only listen to Ali’s takes on games now and especially in tough times. It’s so painful to listen to so many ludicrous fan/media reactions. Maybe that’s just what tends to get clicks but either way your doing god’s work Ali thanks ❤️
Tired players or not, and even though we are carrying injuries, our win/loss ratio is no worse than they were when we had a fully fit squad. Look at the facts not the manager and media excuses.
This manager is only a season and a half into the rebuild he has cleared out a full squad he diddent need he has brought in the very best young talent in Europe these youngsters will make mistakes because there so young but this will only stand to them for next season plus we have some excellent young talent coming in next season just one is a monster luka vuskovic scoring goals for fun as a defender I've always said it would take until the 3th season to see anjes plan bare fruit I can clearly see what anje is trying to do he is sticking with the plan and is not parking the bus like some fans want I rather us loosing by playing football no matter how many goals we concede than stop playing football by parking the bus because we would learn nothing from parking the bus these youngsters will only be stronger and more experienced for next season we will be a force next seadon wait and see
ange talks alot about bringing success to the club. id love if you could ask for his understanding of what success looks like at Tottenham. love the man, just thought it would be interesting to understand what, how and where he feels like he can take us?
감독이 오직 한개의 전술로만 프리미어리그에서 살아남을수 있을까? 그렇지 않다 포스테코는 고집을 넘어 아집으로 선수들의 부상을 초래하는 전술만 고집하고 밀어붙이고 있다 아마 전술에 대한 자신이 없어서 주구장창 무조건 공격축구를 이행하고있다 그의 전술은 무엇보다 선수들의 부상을 초래하고 선수들의 체력까지 갈아넣는 무식한 축구일뿐이다 그는 머리를 두뇌를 전혀 사용하지 않는다 아니 아마 그럴만한 머리가 되지않아서일까 슬롯감독이 경기 임하기전 이미 토트넘에서 어떻게 나올지 알기에 대응하는 것은 쉬웠을것이다 역습으로 다 토트넘 발려버렸지않는가
왜 포스테코는 플랜 b도 플랜c도 없이 프리미어리그에서 계속 나아간다는것은 그의 무지고 무식이다 아마 다른 감독들이 속으로 비웃고 있을지도 모른다
프리미어리그의 격을 그가 떨어뜨리고 있는것이다 감독이란자가 전술이 없다는게 말이 되는가 에휴
Let’s stop being divided on Ange he’s brilliant and building something genuinely amazing he just needs time, how long did it take Ferguson at united, believe in the process people! we will win the EFL or Europa possibly both assuming we get key players back soon and make a couple wise moves in January, we need a solid back up to Vicario 🤕and a CB
Ange has mismanaged the squad that is why we turn up with less than half season gone with a seriously depleted and tired team.
I looked back at Clopp at Liverpool after 18months of his tenure. Guess that was when managers were understandably given time to build a team. For me Ange is by far the best manager yet. He does have a clear vision and likes to bring the youngsters on.
He is half way through the build leave it be.
Ange is out of his depth a one trick pony, no other manager would of played that way against Liverpool with a depleted squad clueless, Scotland Japan is his level.
I don't like the way Ange keeps using the royal "we" in his press conferences–"the way WE want the club to go in," when what he really means is "the way I want the club to go in." Alasdair's point about how the defence always has to be 100% on their game shows clearly the limitations in Ange's utopian approach. Football is a game of mistakes, they inevitably happen, and in a defensive sense it's about risk management and trying to minimize the negative effects of likely errors by having back-ups. The glaring flaw in Ange's system is that it's one defender light; he either needs to play a third centre back or keep the full backs further back, otherwise opposition teams are simply going to rip us apart (the long diagonal ball over Porro's head, as AG pointed out). But Ange appears to be completely wedded to his system in a way that seems to have become almost pathological, which is why he's snapping at reporters who are asking the most obvious questions. I have no problem with the idea of "time and patience" if it looks as though the train is heading in the right direction, but at the moment it clearly isn't. It's not a question of injuries, it's the reckless system he's playing which will never work consistently in the Premier League.
I reckon most fans would have the patience for a rebuild, if the club hadnt continuously refused to build from positions of strength in the past.
Porro is just a bad defender. End of. Tired or not tired.
We're such a bad fanbase, it's painful. We all know the way Spurs is covered in the press is different to every other team, the losses are highlighted the wins are not, and our fans crumble under the pressure of Sky Sports and TalkSports coverage of our team every time! Instead of showing conviction and backing the exciting, longterm project under a revolutionary head coach like Ange we whinge and cry under the weight of the national media. It's embarrassing listening to it from fans in the stadium and online. Back your team, back your manager – this takes time, like it has for every single Premier League manager at the start of a rebuild. Ange is trending similar to Klopp and Arteta, with some good will and big support we can win a cup this year. Continue the negativity and it'll go against us once more. Show a pair of balls lads. Come on You Spurs ⚪️
We must be the only fanbase in the PL that doesn't want success. Full of yuppy corporate types who only want a successful business and believe Levy's propaganda.
Ange not premier league material
We have been blinded by a short term vision for the last 20 plus years in changing our Manager every 12 -18 months. How many trophy's has this short term strategy produced ?
Being a spurs fan for 30+ years, it's like being on a hamster wheel. Constantly running for something that never comes. Great content Ali, cheers.
Spurs over 2 decades are the punching bag by the biased media, majority of the other fans & a contingency of the home boo mob.
Other big teams some with heritage also have not won a trophy since 2008.
NUFC, EVERTON, WOLVES, FOREST, VILLA
Yet they punch Spurs…
well said Alasdair. Put the best Manager in the world with the same players n injuries wont change things some players are excess baggage they are great playing for other teams but when they are with us they just dont make the grade
I think a Postecoglu team needs a squad a plenty of rotation akin to the kind of squads Manchester City and Liverpool have had. Not a squad of superstars but players that can contribute at any time. The likes of Origi, Joe Gomez come to mind