It’s been a while since we have heard from Jay Monahan and in fact since we heard anything to do with the PGA tour & LIV golf merger… Well the silence has broken! We have a full interview from the PGA tour chief and a member of the players advisory council Patrick Cantlay on what is the state of play!
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The PGA Tour are "Slow Waking" this merger to death because they don't want to do the deal. It's time for LIV to start offering new deals to top PGA Tour players. Ask yourself what What would happen if Scottie, Xander, and Rory all defected to LIV on September 1st?
Your comment about attending a LIV golf event in person is interesting. I have watched LIV on TV several times trying to get my head around the TV coverage. All I can say is that watching LIV on TV makes me feel schizophrenic. It is completely impossible to follow any story line. The team aspect is of no interest to me. The shotgun start completely prevents any sense of excitement building up to some kind of victory celebration. The base boom-ba-boom music background sound drives me up the wall. I just can't see the PGA tour adopting any of the LIV format and not loosing a huge percentage of their viewership. I think that deep down Jay Monahan has realized that a merger would cause more harm than benefit to the PGA Tour and is stalling a decision hoping that LIV will die a slow death.
At this point in time just forget about any deal. Just enjoy each tour.
I went to JCB and it was a fantastic day to see all them top players great experience I be there next year 👍
Cantlay must have got that answer from chat gpt
Simply……Liv golf sucks! I’m not going to watch a bunch of professional golfers play exhibition golf.
Let’s break it down objectively. When 2 big banks merge only 1 name survives. Several redundancies are terminated including upper management and CEO. The remaining Bank takes over all operations including the debt of the other bank that longer has their name. Generally it takes about year of talks and when a final framework is agreed upon, the merger is finalized. Depositors are automatically under the new bank name and operations are ongoing seamlessly.
Mirror that with the LIV/PGA merger. Who is merging with whom? Is it LIV to the PGA or PGA to LIV? Who will be the CEO, Greg Norman or Jay Monahan? What format will it follow?, 3 or 4 day tournaments. Obviously all players are back in same basket competing for tournaments which will annoy a lot of PGA players because some turned down offers but that’s another issue and that boat has sailed away when the merger talks began. In the end it just looks like the PGA is more desperate to get this done with them having to control everything as they always have but using LIV’s money.
The United States government is involved in this process, the Department of Justice and a Senate subcommittee. Of course this is going to take some time. How could it not given their "oversight" involvement!
Don't merge. Each tour has their certain amount of events. All Majors and high profile events say no more than 8 to 10 combined open to all pros, 4 rounds. World ranking points offered to both. Full points for PGAT and 3/4 points for LIV.
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I am glad you distinguish discussion and verbal diahorea.
The pga doesn’t want to lose control
Watch what you like, no need for people to be highly critical of either tour. My only issue is sorting the qualification to majors. There are a few PGA tour events I like to watch as there are a few Liv events which is global golf. PGA had the all the best players for a long time, now there is a challenger to diluting their fields and no surprise they are not happy. The BS around 3 or 4 rounds is a yawn, the only real action is generally the last two rounds after the chaff has been trimmed. Me personally, I don't care if they ever reach agreement, it will run it's course whatever that is and as for those talking money, well that's a load of rubbish, I don't see too many on the PGA tour that haven't made a truck load of coin. Live and let live folks, flick the channel if you don't like the offerings.
PGA and LIV in current form should never be brought together.
There is a lot of difference between them.
The fundamentals in PGA are strong. They have training programme for boys and girls, they have junior championships for boys and girls. There is a selection procedure to join PGA tours. They are associated with USGA and R&A, with OWGR.
The LIV does not have any of them. They just buy players from the market, similar to Slave Trade.
It is always welcome to get new ideas. LIV should have consulted with USGA, R%A, and OWGR before they launched a 54 hole system with players bought from the market. They should have started Ladies tournament, juniors tournament. There should have been training schools for boys and girls.
Money doesn't buy these things. But LIV could have used the Saudi Money in a much better way and could have commanded respect from the golf world.
As long as you have player directors like Tiger Woods and Spieth and maybe Cantlay – WHO DO NOT WANT TO TAKE PIF MONEY – then there will NEVER be a merger. This is all a facade on the PGAs side. They pretend they're open to talks and all that but they don't want to accept the PIF as an investor. And after partnering with SSG maybe they don't have to. I think the PGA is absolutely fine with the situation the way it is. And to be honest, I'm fine with it as well.
I like that the Arab tour is left hanging. Pretty much dislike most of those players. Glad they are off the tour.
Monohan is a fraud and Grifter. How does he still collect a check?
All I know is LIV sucks. They will never be taken seriously.
Go LIV Golf.
Phil was right, from the beginning.
For you doubters, trying taking a close look at the actual players. They are having a great time being a pro golfer. The fans too. It’s an awesome sporting environment
This merger…. It’s all talk. They are doing nothing. LIV Golf is LIV Golf… I don’t watch the PGA Tour anymore and don’t care at all. It’s LIV Golf and the majors.
Monahan is terrible, he should have been fired a year ago.
If you want to learn how to play in a beer league scramble, then liv is for you. If you wanna watch the best players in the world, you still have to watch the pga.
Jay still having a job is the most cringe thing of the past two years
as someone who used to practice law, this sounds like someone who used to practice law..badly. if you have a team that blows the initial release of an agreement, you have to replace that team so you can start w/ a clean slate – the fact that monahan is still wandering around is bizarre and inadvisable. the two "no brainer" things you do (if you actually want to move forward) is create a team that is the public face of the agreement, one for PGA, one for LIV, and they meet regularly to show the public that you are serious. also, they can release joint statements that enumerate small items that they have agreed upon, again, as a public sign of good faith. from what i've seen, either the PGA is incompetent (possible) or is just going through the motions because they feel the SSG deal is all they need, good-bye to the top players i guess…
Certainly a change watching PGA events as all the names we were used to on the top of the leaderboard simply aren't there anymore but with LIV. It will take awhile for the PGA to rebuild heroes and regain their "best golfers" tour image. To then settle this issue (which players are better), we would simply need to create a new event, once or twice a year with the top 50 of each tour playing in a 72 hole competition… A sort of Major major.
Liv should stay on its own. Meet up at majors.