You know coach Tom House as a pitching mechanics guru, but the kinematic sequencing of the pitching delivery and the golf swing are very much the same. In this class, Tom discusses how to generate power in your golf swing.
[Music] hello everyone happy Thursday it’s Thursday I am Lindsay Bara I am a head of content at mustard I think most of you know Steve Campos and uh the great Tom house needs no introduction although we are talking about a bit of a foreign topic tonight we don’t always talk about golf um we’re going to talk about how how your uh the the mechanics of the golf swing are similar and maybe a little different than your pitching delivery but mostly similar how you generate power in your golf swing Tom’s going to go over some of your videos but um I’m going to put Tom on the spot a little bit we were just talking about how nobody on this call is a particularly awesome golfer but we’re gonna do this anyway so Tom you were on the board the the founding Board of the Titleist performance Institute so you’re not a stranger to golf and you’ve worked with some some bigname golfers so just tell us a little bit about how you got into golf yeah it’s surprising the similarities like you mentioned earlier uh I got I met Greg Rose 26 years ago when golf was talking about the X Factor and The X Factor is our disassociation or our torque as a pitcher and really the only thing different between Golf and pitching is that pitchers stride a long way and they take more time to generate energy and translate it up out into the golf club but the kinematic sequence the energy translation the movements are all virtually the same so your critical joints if you want to simplify your legs deliver your hips your hips deliver your shoulders your shoulders deliver your arms and your arms are hanging on to a golf clone and um what happens when you swing a golf club the the numbers when you when you swing and look at the acceleration of a golf of a golf club it’s quicker than a baseball but you have two arms swinging it with the baseball you just have one arm throwing it so when you’re figuring out workloads and whatever you have to divide the foot-pounds of energy by two because you’re hanging on to the implement but other than that the kinematic sequence in the timing versally the same so when a pitcher strides the further and faster your stride the more foot pounds of energy you generate to move up the system how does a golfer generate that power yeah a a golfer will weight shift weight transfer inside the width of his stands so and he’s on flat ground so we know that the most he foot pounds of energy he can generate will be two t body weight the equivalent of of taking a step but within that step that shift of of weight when the weight stops going forward and the energy translates out it’s just like a a picture if he was thrown on his knees and 80% of the swing speed comes from your torso your arms are along for the ride and they deliver the club and the club itself um you know there’s Club speed and Club quickness and all those laws of physics things that enter into it but the same exact physics apply and you know there’s when they talk about a golfer keeping his head still and remember if you ever see me swing a golf club they do as I say not as I do but you they when you hear uh an analysis on when you’re watching on weekends they say how steady the head is when they’re in the sand it’s the same basic thing for every one inch of inappropriate head movement with a golf club it’s like two inches at contact with the ball so if you’re always topping or slicing or hooking or whatever it might be it starts basically with keep your head still keep your head over your center of gravity and your weight between the balls of your feet and your energy trans transfer and weight transfer and energy Translate um really a a guy swinging a bat and a guy swinging a golf club is really the same thing except for the weight of the infam when we talk about pitching deliveries and hip and shoulder separation and there’s a certain number of degrees that you’re aiming for we talk about guys who have big shoulders and small hips guys who have small shoulders and big hips guys like the maddox’s who are getting kind of the same out of both is it the same in the golf delivery where if you’re not going to rotate your hips as much you have to make up for it with shoulder rotation and vice versa you’re exactly right you know and your q and me up perfectly here um we know that pitchers have to their hip and shoulder separation is between 40 and 60 degrees uh it’s very similar with a golfer and the the big shoulder small hip guys would be I don’t know if anybody listening is uh can you remember what Ernie El’s swing looks like he it looks like his swing is big and slow but it’s because he has huge separation with his upper body and his hips don’t have a lot of activity if you look at guys that look like they have a perfect swing and tiger wood swing or whatever their hips and shoulders disassociate proportionately and then you got guys that are really funky like a Jim furic where he does this weird stuff at the top but his his hips have already squared up toward the target toward where he’s shoot aiming the at the flag or whatever and his shoulders will catch up accordingly so the best golfers again will have 40 to 60 degrees of separation between their front shoulder and their back hip but it all has to do with takeaway back swing and down swing if I’m using the vocabulary correctly and the timing thereof but the sequencing of hip and shoulders his virtue the same sequencing just in general um we’re going to look at Ernie else go ahead Steve okay good I don’t know how Steve did that that’s awesome now if you look it doesn’t look like he’s got great clubbed head speed but it’s it’s really good it doesn’t look that way because he has such his shoulders really go back and his hips aren’t really active see what it looks like from the side and notice his head his head stays dead over the ball stays inside the yeah he there’s there’s a reason why he’s a Hall of Famer yeah weight shift he doesn’t have a ton of hips you’re right I see that but he still gets so far through onto his yeah he still gets the degrees of separation necessary to have the torque to be able to hit the ball like he does and his swing looks so easy like he’s not even trying and if you pull up a tiger or some of these younger kids who’s the guy that’s number one in the world right now he swings like he’s coming out of his shoes yeah he jumps yeah it literally looks really silly but his his hip and shoulder separation are there’s parody from start to finish so many of those good guys you see them like post up on that front hip before their downswing even begins so their hips are moving forward while the hands are still moving backwards and I always think about you talking about twisting up that rubber band Yes and doing it more and more now here’s a guy that pretty much revolutionized strength training and golf and the power that this guy generates is off the chars watch the velocity of his hips and the velocity of his shoulders how far the hip is forward before he even comes back yeah do you do you see what’s going on here he does he gets equal amount of Separation I mean his hips rotate about the same as his shoulders but the torque he maintains at the top he hangs on to that hip and shoulder separation and really generates energy from the stored torque and he was the beginning of all these kids that are hitting long balls now and if you you’ll look at his left knee um he was one of the first golfers that that front knee actually snapped straight and he’s paid I think he’s had four or five surgeries on it and um now we know how to condition that to hand that type of stress but golf has has come a long way with the understanding of the mechanics of the Swing as well as how to physically physically prepare for it and the mustard app um comes pretty close to making it as simple as it can be Tom is is the snapping of of the front leg kind of like the same as as a pitcher you know they’re usually the heart throwers yeah the ones that generate the most Tor are the ones that that they will plan or Flex both feet in other words it looks like they’re jumping I think the first one to do who was the left-handed golfer from Louisiana um everybody thought he was Goofy um I’ll come up with his name Bubba um Bubba Watson watch oh he was the first one that really showed Off plan reflection you went Tippy toe on every swing to help that energy translate up the system when you add Tippy Toe with a front knee that’s snapping straight just as the club is hit striking the ball that you’re you’re generating some kind of Club speed right those those are the long long drive guys too Tom I’m sure that a lot of the people in this call are baseball players or parents of baseball players and I was a college softball player and I feel like every person who played baseball the biggest problem in your golf swing is that you start it with your hands which means you don’t allow enough time for hip and shoulder separation you come in super steep to the ball causes all sorts of problems that I deal with every time I’m on the golf course yeah what what should we do about that you have to understand that moving out of sequence or strength recruited out of sequence is inefficiency and when you’re a pitcher or a thrower you can manipulate right up to the end uh you can be handsy right up to the end on a throw and still have control of the throne if you’re trying to get handsy with a club face where you’re making an adjustment as you’re making contact then you’re going to sink as a golfer like I do and the hardest thing to do is set your grip and set your swing and let it happen in the right sequence and it only shows up those times when you’re not even trying to have a good swing you’ll click it’ll just click perfectly and the ball will leave your club like you actually know what you’re doing but most of the guys that are handicappers like me will try to hit the ball farther or higher or put more spin on it and again if you as as a golfer if you’re moving out of sequence or recruiting strength that sequence you’re going to have issues trying to hit it harder is always a catastrophe it’s like the Tin Cup it’s like water water water I’m I’m just trying to make contact that’s my thing yeah so yeah if you in my family Maria is a my wife is a pretty good golfer so I just have she’s she wears the golf pants in the family and because I have Parkinson’s my my dream of hitting long balls is done I’ll hit from the women teas and be proud of it and when she beats my pants off I just said you know I’ll tip my hat answer to a higher authority that’s how it goes how important is functional strength in a golf swing like with baseball if you’re not functionally strong you’re generating so much more foot pounds of energy because of the mound and and that stress is going to move up the chain do you get away with a lot more in the golf swing yeah on flat ground and it’s why it’s such a popular sport with old men like me you can be a little heavy and out of shape without much flexibility and if you have have any athleticism at all you can generate some Club speed and actually compete that’s what they make the handicap system for but if if you really want to get the most out of your body it’s the same basic thing it’s not how strong you are it’s how functionally strong and flexible you are with stability Mobility and flexibility for the record I’d like to say that I think the handicap system is ridiculous I am a 17 I accept that I’m not a good golfer and I should not be able to comp compete with someone that is a two handicap I should get spanked and I should be happy about it because that guy is worth harder than I have to become good at golf I feel like I think handicapping is ridiculous but again not not everybody is as crisp with your kns as you are the bottom line for me is if you go out and have a good time it’s it hurts my feeling it doesn’t hurt my feelings I feel bad for the golfer that gets angry when he’s out there on a Sunday afternoon I mean he could be you know working in the salt mines and if I could ask anybody that’s watching or listening to us right now golf should be enjoyable you don’t work at golf um you play golf and listen to that word you’re playing golf and if you’re if you get angry with a golf club in your hand you need to do a little bit of reevaluation because you’re missing the whole point the other thing I tell people is that I play a different game that is called hit the ball and follow it and I’m really good at that game wherever that thing goes I will follow it you can follow it yeah I uh I also laugh at people that will throw their Club you know think about all the technology that’s out there and what you’re paying for a driver or a putter now and to physically throw a club because it’s not doing what it’s supposed to do um it borders on ridiculous but having been there and done that just allow yourself to enjoy the game and if the mustard app does anything it breaks it down simple enough that even you know the the Sunday afternoon maybe once a month type golfer they can actually help themselves yeah if you guys aren’t in the the mustard golf beta you can sign up on our website and apps should be live uh within a week or two and it really the the beta feedback is that it is pretty simple and it is helping people and there’s a lot of drills in there that can really help your swing that you can actually do in your living room or you know when you pass by the mirror or the the store window stop and take a few swings and it’ll it’ll get you feeling what you’re supposed to um be feeling uh Steve you want to tea up uh we’ve got a couple videos let’s let’s check out we got it uh but uh really quick uh if you have any questions please drop them in the chat on the Q&A and I just dropped the the link to sign up for our beta if uh you haven’t signed up yet so says the new app is amazing thank you Lee for trying it I hope you filled out the survey uh do you want to do the n Carta first and then we go to yeah show them I think Nelly swing is even better than tiger so show show show show Tom Nelly niass there we go she’s one what seven in a row she did win seven in a row she then lost but she’s she’s just it’s just so pretty yeah yeah that’s pure we going to head from the side yeah yeah that that is a perfectly sequenced golf [Music] SP and even that um she swung with her shoulders not her arm there was that one from the side Steve hold on send it to you look stable their head is I love when you see um ah Steve I just sent you another one perfect let’s te that one up here she gets such unbelievable extension over her head with the with club and and she starts moving underneath it it’s it’s wild that flexibility is off the charts but remember how many thousands of hours That Swing has been work yeah and it’s just so because she doesn’t even I’m sure her Club head speed is crazy but she it’s like it’s like Ernie else she’s she her Club head speed it looks like she’s not even trying exactly she looks like she’s just like Lolly gagging you know and it’s it’s accuracy and distance yeah which is why she’s so good I think it’s the same one uh it’s not the same one let me see yeah I think I think it’s the same one but uh we could show Weston if you want and show how different it is do we have won hit the go we do we got Weston Lefty he’s a muscle head watch him try to hit it far let me queue up Weston here some of you guys on the call probably know Weston and here’s something cool you can have a bad swing but be a good ball striker um left-handed hit golfers always look better to me than right-handed but I’m kind of prejudiced now there’s hips and shoulders he doesn’t have much torque but what he does have is really quick did you see how fast his hips and shoulders went see if you can pause at the top Steve let see we should have gotten his app video yeah he’s moving everything at once yeah now watch his left hip and his right should there he comes but he’s a strong kid like really strong why why do hockey players make such good golfers I don’t know I was a hockey player and I’m terrible at golf because they’re hitting on ice so that’re they’re they never have a firm base they’re always that’s why they’re able to be handsy and still make cont uh lee just asked in the chat are there sequencing drills within the app yes there are but you will only be fed those drills if you are not sequencing correctly there’s um uh I’m trying I’m trying to think what some of them were because I watched and wrote copy for all of them um but there there are quite a few where you have to um I’m trying to think if there’s one with like tape on the mirror there there’s definitely sequencing drills in in the app but maybe Lee you that was not one of the problems that it identified and it’s having you work on you know back swing or down swing or something instead all right here we uh Lindsay I have another one here from one of our Discord users I think he’s on the call Jason let me call up Jason here Jason cage let me bring him right up I always the first thing I do is look what he said Jason can I hear us Jason yeah please balance that’s not bad no he got a little hey for me but for the most part it’s is quiet it’s head is really quiet he doesn’t lose his posture takeaway is pretty good he stays behind the ball now he’s reaching a little bit and now comes the separation and if you look at his shirt can you stop it right there Steve so everybody thinks that golf is totally rotational why is his shirt kind of blousing out toward where he’s hitting the drive CU his shirt is going linear why his body is going angular there’s energy that’s going toward the left side of the Fairway but when everything stopped going forward what what is the shirt doing right now it still thinks it’s supposed to go forward so that’s actually a pretty solid little delivery and the low back of a golfer is very similar into contact as our stack and track is where the low back goes from hyperextension deflection that’s the same thing the low back does is Jason still there I want to know where that ball went think he pulled it to the left that was a hook see the club face yeah just and just from looking at some so many videos in the app lately I feel like he might get hands to in on downswing yeah see now you know better than I do I just look body parts yeah his sequences are there but there at at the end he’s manipulating a little bit that that he’s rolling his Top Hand and that will actually cause a hook I I could throw something at that I I know about if you are a continual hooked up Hooked person open up your stance if you’re continually slicing the ball close your stance and your body will move the Club head for you that’s for a Duffer like me that’s one of the rules that worked for me I think Jason’s on I don’t know you can hear us let me ask him to unmute okay can you hear us J he looks like he’s muted no he just he dropped off again okay oh now he’s coming back again yeah it be interesting that I’d like to know where he hit that ball my eyes my eyes tell me that the club face was stucking the ball hey guys can you hear me yeah hey sorry I keep I keep trying to join get kicked off uh every time uh actually hadit a pretty straight little bit of a draw and uh Club head or ball speed like in the 170 so I do pretty well but uh I was looking for opportunities to hit a little bit further I’m tall I’m six fo4 yeah um but your levers are good what are you a five five or a six what’s your hand C uh yeah a little bit better than scratch so I’ve been playing my my whole life so good yeah you’re it’s pretty consistent nice than you were you surprised to see that your shirt is going right down the middle of the Fairway while your body’s twisting to the left and the pitchers do the same thing your low back yeah your low back see what your shirt’s doing right now yeah right now all the energy in your clothes is going right down the middle of the Fairwind and you’re twisting inside that with your your levers your arms your hips and your legs and the torque that you’ve created are you I’m going to put a little pressure on you Jason are you a big hip big are you a big hip small shoulder guy equal hip equal shoulders or big I’m not sure her me to tell I’d say uh yeah probably on the equal side yeah your swing is is pretty because it has parity your hips and your shoulders they actually are about the same in your disassociation and when you say you’re always looking for more distance what what what’s the longest drive you had uh you know at times over you know 3 320 330 but uh yeah boohoo I really feel bad for it’s it’s a pretty the game’s changing everybody’s everybody’s seen it longer and longer these days so these are these are important conversations so really appreciate it when you have a Miss what’s your most common Miss uh it it tends to vary but I’d say an overdraw um so yeah more on the left side sounds like you guys kind of picked up on that too okay so when you work on stuff on the Range what do you work on uh always working on something changing something um I don’t love how my hands right there that at that frame or a little bit ahead of the ball I’d like to be a little further back I’d also like to uh be pushing up a little bit more out that left side um I feel like my energy is kind of stuck in the ground there and it could be kind of working backwards towards my trail shoulder and and again um it only takes one rep to fix position I if I was hanging around with you and remember I’m a terrible golfer but I would just and you have a slightly closed stance I would open your open your stance up just a little and I I’m going to make a little side bed I I bet you a riy riy steak somewhere and if you open if you open your left side up about five inches that you get more distance okay very cool on that have you tried the app Jason I have I I love it um got got some great feedback there working on shoulder tilts there you probably can even see that with the driver uh so really at the top of the back swing there having my left my lead shoulder be a little further down um and just kind of working some of the drills from Mark Blackburn and yeah absolutely love the app and uh can’t wait to make some more progress with it I was wondering what it was telling you your the the biggest area of improvement was yes really working on that coil and and and kind of loading into a more stack coiled state with a lead shoulder a little bit further down at the top of the back swing okay trying to remember very cool stuff cool thank you thank you guys yeah sorry I tried to jump in and they kept kicking me off no no it’s all good we got in good good job Jason all right thanks so much guys appreciate it you too see he hits the ball 300 yards and he wants more distance I know right more more more that’s awesome it’s never Far Enough Tom no it’s never one ball 300 yards I would just never play again that’d be super fun oh that that’s just the opposite if you do one you got to try the next two years to do the same thing again that’s the competitor that’s inside all of us all right we have another another video here from Discord uh if you’re on this call please just raise your hand or put put your name in the chat let us know and we’ll bring you up it’s this guy is a Squatty bot he’s built like me so for him to have flexibility and his torso it’s going to be a little tougher than Jason see what kind of flexibility he gets yeah he uh his hips and shoulders work really well together but there’s not a whole lot of disassociation there he’s got the flexibility of a 2×4 is he on right now yeah he’s on he raised his hand I’m going to we’re going to bring him up hope join join us if I if I was hanging around with him whoever his trainer is or whatever his condition is I would try to get as much flexibility out of his torso as possible because he’s got power I mean his his legs are delivering his torso and he basically the fire plug with arms if he was a picture I probably call him Stumpy but see if you can see the flexibility here this his hips and shoulders they move together but there’s not a whole lot of disassociation they go together so he gets good striking but if you could get a little bit more torque and hang on to it he hit the ball further that’s going to require uh some changes in the way his body and his flexibility work so stability mobility and flexibility Luke can you hear us he’s got looks like he’s muted I’m gonna guess he’s 51 you hear me now there we are how tall are you Luke uh just on just under six foot and how much you way uh 180 I think you would say um 90 k what’s that I’m you’re you’re a fire plug with arms just like me so yeah one of the things I don’t know if you pay attention to it but if you could get a little bit more flexibility out of your torso you’d hit the ball been working I’ve been working for the last two years on my flexibility I know but that it is how how old are you luk uh 52 okay you it’s still you can be you can change your stability Flex stability mobility and flexibility into your 70s and 80s I’m 78 with Parkinson and I every day I work on my flexibility because the aging process literally is you you just lose mobility and if you’re if you’re a good golfer like I’m sure you are the more flexible and mobile you can be and it’s not how strong you are it’s how flexible and mobile you are with that strength does that make sense yeah it does a lot and my golf coach he said the same thing to me he said go go and get some flexibility and I’ll teach you how to swing a golf club and so that’s where I’ve been probably for the last two or three years get some good information that’s awesome what I am proud of is look how stable your head is so go take him through a swing seat and watch his the one good thing about being a Squatty body your head doesn’t move very much y so yeah that’s awesome what what’s your handicap Luke um I’m at 11 at the moment but I was down at eight I’m struggling to get a game of golf in at the moment I’m uh I’m in the gym here because I can’t hit the balls on on the course so when I turn up to the course I’m I’m going backwards at the moment but um I am trying to work on my flexibility and and now you’ve said that Tom I appreciate it I’ll do a lot more work on it yeah and basically it’s boring but if you care about your golf swing it will really help because you’re you’re strong enough the way you’re put together to manufacture through inefficiency with movement and if you’re a little bit more flexible mobile and stable you’ll have the movement and the strength that you that you already exist in your body okay y we’ve just employed a yoga teacher at at our I teach cricket and uh we’ve just employed a yoga teacher that and that’ll be a huge help but our snc he’s really big on flexibility so he’s awesome you surrounded yourself with some pretty good people there very well done yeah thank you thank you I imagine there are some similarities between cricket and and golf and pitching too oh yeah we done some a cricket call long time ago remember Tom I think we analyed a cricket one from Australia too the the pitcher was yeah that’s cool I don’t know how the hitters hit it but they throw really hard they they block it unless they’re trying to Loop it for and you can hit it any direction on the on the field yeah that’s amazing see just a reminder if anybody has any questions about anything just please drop them in the chat or the Q&A see I’m trying I think we got a we got one more from Discord here let me bring that up Lindy you find talking to the golfers a little easier than it is talking to baseball people you know it’s funny I found over the years like you and I have never really talked a ton about golf but listening to you talk so much about hip and soier shoulder separation and how important sequencing is I was a really bad golfer but it made me I mean I went from like a 24 to a 17 and I would say it was probably because of listening to you that’s awesome and it was you know I just I I kind of think about like I don’t know if it’s is the greatest thing in the world but a little bit about like Hideki matama and I put like a tin in my mind there’s a pause at the top of my back that allows my weight to start moving forward if I don’t think of you probably wouldn’t see it but if I don’t think that everything comes down in one piece but that’s I learned a lot from listening to you talk about pitching and that’s your trick to add in the feeling that goes with the information now this is my kind of guy right here his head is kind of like wandering all over and he will be a he’ll slice way more than he’ll he’ll hook and if you’ll watch how much he head moves moves when he’s taking his Club back and honestly for him to make contact is a minor AMAC I hope he’s on the on this call right now he’s he’s one of the pitching dads Tom uh he’s not on the call but he’ll watch the recording okay if if he’s one of the pitching dads watch put a box right his head that’s what we’re doing that’s had and if the one teach I give him is if he just keep his head still and move the rest of his body with his head still he cut four or five Strokes off and score right away watch how much his head moves before he makes contact that’s where it’s supposed to stay set up not too bad goes back three or four inches and it drops down and keeps going forward all right so that excess movement is going to even if he’s a great athlete he’s never going to have consistent contact with Club the ball so all he have to do is take him back to where his head’s in the box and I would start this teach and Steve who said it’s a a dad of a pitcher yeah his practice on the Range looking at mayor dry work whatever it might be is to have his head hold still throughout the full swing and that would get his body where he’d be way more consistent with ball strike sool slow it down how much you can see the club bending it’s awesome yeah yeah I bet you he Scoops the ball and slices to the right a whole bunch but he’s smiling so he must be having a good time Tom do you fix head position to fix loss of posture or do you fix loss of posture to fix head position we use the head to demonstrate what loss of posture means so it looks like I’m going to give him a couple compliments here he’s addressing the ball okay but he’s got balance he’s on the balls of his feet his knees are bent equally when he starts but as he moves as he does his weight transfer everything comes apart and his hips and his left shoulder and his left hip open together there’s very little torque involved here he’s trying but his take when he takes the club back he’s trying to take his shoulders and and hold that position but with his down swing his left shoulder and his left hip are spinning at the same time and he’s trying to keep his head stable but we all saw it went back of the box in and down and then out of the box into contact and then his at contact his head is where it should have stayed the whole time with no movement so he gets to the right position and look at at the club and look for the ball where do you think the ball is going right now see how the club has bent going to the right so at contact yeah at contact he’s going to slice thatal so the he’s out of sequence he’s strong enough um he because he’s built like me he’s got flexibility issues but I would start from the initial stance that he had is just don’t let your head move and do all your other activity with that head stting just over in behind the ball until you can Groove your swing and know what’s happening no matter what and then it can start worried about other stuff Tom Jason asked in the chat what do you find the most helpful for thoracic Mobility there’s a bunch of stuff you can do but um there’s Med balls where you like model walk where you hold when you’re walking you walk left foot forward take your hands back you go back and forth while you’re walking you can take Med ball and throw it into a wall um you can take instead of your golf club get a a bat or a a pipe and go through like the swing motion where you swing the right-handed and left-handed and this is kind of important if you only swing right-handed uh or leftand if you just concentrate on the one side you can only accelerate what you can decelerate so you want to build decelerators right along with your accelerators so whatever if you’re out in the in the driving range and you hit 75 balls right handed you should try as best you can not necessarily to hit 75 balls left hand but to swing 75 swings left hand if your accelerators and your decelerator your right handed swing and your left-handed swing are activating muscles equally then your swing will be much more efficient overall and you’ll be more consistent with ball strike so remember as if you possibly can listen to what your swing coach tells you for your dominant side but listen to your conditioning coach about building strength in your non-dominant side even without the implements my favorite is uh and I do it every day you can call it Spider-Man or world’s greatest stretch whatever you want to call it with the KNE if you Google world’s greatest and the opposite arm goes up I I had elbow surgery last week and I still can’t I can’t put any weight on my right arm but I was doing this the the world’s greatest stretch today just with the arm hovered because I just need to get that open book you know rotation and I find it super helpful and I do it all the time on the driving range with people looking at me like I’m nuts but it really is helpful world world’s greatest if you can if you can find the movement that gives you that feeling with a golf club in your hand you’ve done your job yeah and the one of the most frustrating things that I see is the the handicap golfer that takes his clubs out goes to his card uh takes a couple of Swings with his club and goes right to the tees because you basically you you loosen up you warm up to loosen up the be your activity and it’s only going to help you to take a little extra time you warm up and loosen up before you try to go score on the on the course I’m actually going to put um years ago when I was working for tonel I did a story with Tom’s friend the chiropractor Peter McKai title performance Institute Jason I’m putting a a story a Blog in the chat that I did on thoracic Mobility yeah Peter was talking about this 20 years before anybody there’s a great Lee says there’s a great video out there of Dustin John Johnson swinging left-handed you could put it side by side his right hand swing and not tell the difference God love those people it’s that’s my grandpa Yogi was like that he could do everything both sides totally crazy and that’s why he was the athlete he was for his Longs yeah the golfers on this call my grandfather was a natural right-handed hitter or right-handed person who played thre right and hit Lefty in baseball but he golfed right-handed putt left-handed but carried a left handed eight iron in case he ever got stuck behind a tree because he could just as easily turn around and hit the other way so try that yeah this is Weston this is a great thoracic Mobility exercise here Jason this is Weston doing our velocity bats that right there for him to be that stable and remember you can add intensity by moving faster that is so much harder than it looks but he’s working going backwards and you do the same drill going forward and you can see some kids over on the left that were doing it with a plow ball you can do this with a bat a club a pile ball that movement is what you’re after this is kind of fun talking to golin how heavy was that um B that Weston was swinging there 36 it’s uh yeah uh when you do that Tom would you just do the heavy and not do the light or you do both when you do you’re trying to generate and this is good Steve thanks for setting this up yeah if you’re working on speed you want to swing implements that are lighter than your Club so that I think there’s speed sticks out there there’s velocity bats and velocity shafts if you’re working on strength you want to swing something heavier than your heaviest Club in your bag and I think we found I’m shooting from the hip here I think the heaviest Club in your bag is your is your Sand Wedge so whatever your Sand Wedge weighs anything lighter than that will be for Speed anything heavy than that will be for strength so like Tom for me I always feel weird swinging because I throw righty right but I hit left-handed so I always feel weaker on my top I guess my top hand when I swing so it just feels kind of weird yeah and that’s that’s normal what you do is Swing until it doesn’t feel doesn’t feel weird head yeah so when you’re making adjustments this is the same across the board in all sports you have to get comfortable being uncomfortable while your nervous system rewires the mileon of the new movement that you’re after I got to re find The M the new M you got we got another question yeah I don’t know what that is I’m Googling it Lee asked what happened to the old Wally Joiner back that had the sliding weight that snapped that impact it’s still it’s still out there there’s a Wally Joiner bat wow that’s old school they found that that click at the end can actually be a little hard on your wrist and your elbow because it’s in effect you you’re trying to decelerate the bat or the the club and it pushes on top of that so you can do it but you have to be careful about the intensity and where you are as as a are you working on your nervous system or your strength or both so it has its purpose for the best thing to say about the Wally Joiner bat is the guys that were good at it or the guys who could do it the ones that couldn’t do it it’s a little hard in their body I’m trying to find um one thing I remember Peter McKai telling me about that thoracic Mobility business was that if you think about sitting in your car and you’re going to like check your blind spot right if you can turn your body first and then have your head follow your Mobility is probably okay but if your head moves first then you need work yeah and th those of you that are getting old like I am you’ll find out when you wake up in the morning just how bad your thoracic Mobility is like when your wife is Young at you and you want to turn your head and look you have to do you have to go like this you have to turn the whole chair yeah you have to move the whole chair to do it so that should tell you you need a little help from your train Luke wants to know how do you work on your nervous system well there again I don’t want to go too deep but there are windows of trainability your first window is neurological and that’s when you’re a kid trying to figure out what sport you’re going to love and work at so the first window is for your nervous system and that’s from age 8 till 12 or 13 the second window is muscle and that’s for a guy when testosterone hits and that window lasts till you’re 18 maybe 19 and then when you can put nerve and muscle together you can work on skill of your sport and the skill acquisition window is say from 20 age 32 to 34 and then the the one that’s probably the most important out there right now for All Sports and people just walking around is skill retention how long how old do you have to be before your skill starts giving up and we’re finding that you can get into your 50s or 60s and still have the same B basic skill level so as you get older you’re going to work on your nervous system because you don’t lose strength you lose your nervous system and flexibility so if you’re 45 plus then you’re going to work on your nervous system and your flexibility like we talked earlier about mobility and treat yourself like you’re a little eager again but that combination is how you keep yourself moving until you can’t move and you should try to get something done every day no matter what and they’re they’re finding out that longevity for the sport of golf or whatever you choose to be if you get up and do something every day you lose very little until it’s until you’re really old Tom I know you’re going to have opinions John asked in the Q&A curious about flexibility in general do you favor Dynamic PNF or static yoga type stretching so what you can or can’t do um with like I have Parkinson so I do a lot of isometric and perturbation when it comes to strength and flexibility work uh because I can’t move as efficiently as I used to so what I’ll do is I’ll put my s in a position and I’ll shake or push in that position and you can create flexibility and you can create strength uh you can’t hurt yourself working with isometrics or perturbation if you try to get range of motion sometimes it can be a little bit more than your body’s capable of handling now you’re coming off of an elbow surgery um eventually you’ll have full range of motion but right now I’ll guarantee you they allow you to push against something or create some kind of as long as there’s not big movement and that alone will help you reinforce not just your nervous system but the strength that supports your nervous system that allows you to move never do nothing there’s always something you can do I always think too I mean just in my real like my not broken life my you know I do a lot of dynamic ahead of M ballistic Movement Like Dynamic switching ahead of running ahead of jumping before workouts and then the static stuff 30 seconds and longer after uh workouts there’s a lot of research that that like stretching before workouts can actually reduce your explosivity yeah you’re right power again it’s it’s hard to give someone a blanket fix it’s individualized it’s personally adapted but if your if your trainer your conditioning coach is aware of what’s going on they’ll tailor it to fit what your body needs well Steve no more videos no more videos were done through uh with all the submissions Tom when you how did Greg convince you to start working with with Titus what what did he see in your brain that he he wanted help with well the guy that came up with the X Factor that that term was a biomechanist before they actually knew what a biomechanist was and he was looking at high-speed video and three dimensions and wasn’t quite sure what he was looking at and as luck would have it at that time that was what what I was doing was experimenting for the first time on what we were actually seeing uh a buddy of mine CP Duren Dr CP Duren from the University of Hawaii we had an an aerial system that I ended up buying and taking with me to Texas with the Rangers and again it was one of those precipitous if that’s the right word or Greg um I forget how we actually met but he invited me to come up and look at what they were looking at to find out if it was similar and it turned out what he was trying to do with TPI was exactly what we were trying to do with the Texas Rangers so it was H it was a match made in heaven and I didn’t know anything about the golf swing itself he had Dave Phillips was his expert that U Greg Rose by by education as a chiropractor but when he started putting things together he brought the best chiropractors he could find the best physical therapists best strength coaches best movement coaches and that’s how TPI got started from they brought the best from all over the world locked everybody in a room and said come out with some kind of consensus that was 27 years ago now that’s wild and you just did a clinic at TPI two weekends ago right yeah and we’re still we’re still learning the exponential you know the amount of information isn’t quite as much but the importance of the small pieces the contribution margins at the last two or 3% are off the charts important who is the athlete that is a not a golfer that you have worked with who is the best golfer probably either Drew Brees or or Greg Maddox they’re they’re both F golfers when they’re playing but they could they could have played tennis on the pro level they could have played baseball on the pro level um they’re they’re extremely good athletes and again I don’t know if we’ mentioned this I know I have to see if you go to Hall of Fame in any sport most of the Hall of Famers were six foot and some change and weighed right around 200 pounds that’s the model that started Hall of Fame and now what’s happening they’re getting bigger faster and stronger and it used to be a pitcher that was 65 or taller was three or four years behind someone who was only six feet tall and the first guy who swing you look at I think he said he was 62 63 he he would have been tall for a golfing and until recently there haven’t been too many tall Dolphins they’re all they’re all short as the levers are a little bit easier to command but it’s changing and we’re getting much better at I you know identifying what the need state is based on their window ATT trainability and that’s what happens with when you’re looking at golf now on weekends they’re tall and skinny but they can crush it all I think I was Wasington today there’s some kid that is like 17 years old that shot whever they are on tour right now he shot par today with the big boys W you got yeah so that’s what’s happening how was how was Nolan Ryan as a golfer golf with him he was like me he he he could hit a ball but didn’t really know where it was going little sidebar real quick Greg Rose used to give me Titus balls that actually had this ball was lost by Tom H and it it would give my TPI website so that was back in the good old days that’s amazing somebody put in the chat uh miles Russell he’s 15 years old yeah that was and he would he looked like you know a blade with a golf club and he was hitting the ball right out there with the big boys and I guarantee you he was there was no intimidation whatsoever he was excited to be there but not nervous about the fact that he was on the big stage with the big the best in the world we I was just watching uh we had the Cent Founders Club cup the the women’s tournament was at my golf club here and there was a 15-year-old playing and I’m forgetting what her name was but she did she did great too it’s amazing to see how good these are how good these kids are yeah at such a young age nowadays and that’s what’s happening there’s College scholarships being offered to 13 year olds now it it’s it’s crazy but that’s technology it’s information and if it could if it can be done properly if I could throw one thing out there for everybody to think about it’s okay to specialize if you’re in your 20s but there should be no specialization with a teenager or a pre-teen until it becomes a parent that this is the only sport he’s he or she’s going to play the more Sports they can be involved with the more mization the more neurop pathway programming is up on the Shelf to pull out to devote to whatever it takes in two to three years so try to to specialize you can there are you know you can be a Tiger Woods or a Michelle we but it’s better to do all all sports until the the boy or the girl gets ignition for one sport junior senior in high school cool well Tom thank you so much uh everybody on the call if you haven’t checked out the mustard golf app please go and check it out and uh keep an eye on our socials and and and Steve will keep everybody posted in Discord we’ll be doing some calls in the future hopefully with more and more golf content as we go live with the golf uh app and you can always ask us questions you can ask in Discord on our any of our social channels info@ teer.com and uh one of us will get back to you with whatever golf question answers we can um we we’re we’re always happy to help so thank you so much for joining us tonight and happyl with golf anytime you want to call cool have a 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