Is it possible that we never actually knew Kanye like we think we did?

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Kanye retrospective videos
1- https://youtu.be/wvgehVhF9D4?si=3KEeQ0hDS4k6h6Gj
2- https://youtu.be/e7e5BFJa-Ug?si=RZ8rPWSxkPUUXHHE

Fly in the milk video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZCl7VkUWgU&t=4461s&pp=ygUSZmx5IGluIHRoZSBtaWxrIGZk

so depending on when you’re watching this I will probably still be in the middle of making my big old Drake versus Kendrick video sadly it hit some editing snags and shakeups and real life updates but I didn’t want to let the entire month of June pass without putting out something so I figured I’d take this moment opportunity maybe to re-engage with something I’ve been working on or percolating in the back of my head for years that I actually touched on a bit in the video which is one Mr Kanye West and how he’s a super important background character to what eventually happens between Kendrick Lamar and Drake and know I’m not talking about that embarrassingly awful diss track that he dropped in the middle of the thing starting to pop off because he couldn’t stand the idea of the biggest moment in rap not centering around him at some point so yeah Kanye West has fallen a long way since I first became a fan no he had to get the Hooligans up here he going to take this [ __ ] [ __ ] out yo dot I got you and that’s kind of what I want to talk about because if you follow Kanye as long as I have you recognize that his you know moment his emergence as a rap Superstar fundamentally changed hip-hop as a culture and black culture in general and of course the industry of rap music and this paved the way for a drake to exist not just sonically as in all the ways that Drake clearly is influenced by Kanye sound but specific specifically Drake couldn’t exist if Kanye had not done what he had did but again that comes up in another video uh the first half of which why do talk about that is available on my patreon and for channel members if you can’t wait another couple of weeks and you want to at least get that first hour and you haven’t already you can check that out there but if you clicked on this video it’s likely that you already know a lot about Kanye and if you don’t I made two whole videos explaining the rise and fall of Kanye West and those those are made in 2022 and sadly a lot has happened since 2022 to make that fall even deeper but the key thing to know without watching those whole videos is that Kanye came into the world of hip-hop when hip-hop was very different and he had a once in a-lifetime run of amazing music and just this amazing Persona and Vibe around him that made him this ubiquitous meast star in a way that hip-hop hadn’t really seen between 2001 and 2014 but since 2014 in those last 10 years he has destroyed his image and Legacy in a way that’s just as unimaginable as his rise to fame Kanye went from being that transformative Superstar to foaming at the mouth ranting on white supremacist podcast talking about how much he loves Adolf Hitler it’s really really bad over the years fans like myself tried to find ways to explain this change first we said oh it’s cuz he got with Kim Kardashian or maybe he has delayed brain injuries from his car crash we said said it was cuz he lost his mother because he has bipolar disorder and like different versions of those events surely explain some of his behavior but not really it’s important to know that Kanye West really really loved Kim Kardashian pursued her and was the driving force behind their relationship like from jump and bipolar disorder is a severe mental illness but having bipolar disorder doesn’t make you blame black people for slavery it doesn’t make you an [ __ ] it’s just a difficult mental state to be in and it’s important to not think about mental disabilities as excuses for being an [ __ ] or a racist but I get why we want to do that we want to make excuses for or explain why Kanye can be so different from the Kanye we met 20 years ago but I’m here to present the question what if he’s not you’ll hear Kanye fans like myself say I miss the old Kanye but I think at this point we have to start considering that maybe this is the old Kanye so I’m implying that Kanye has been hiding this type of behavior for a long time and maybe had some of these same opinions way back when we thought he was a much better person so we have to answer the question as to why he might have been hiding this stuff or how he could have been getting away with it if he wasn’t hiding it as good as we think and to understand that we have to do our usual hip-hop history lesson go ahead strap in you are now about to witness the strength of Street knowledge as I said earlier before Kanye in that like 10-year period before he emerges in the early 2000s hip-hop is almost completely dominated by gangster rap probably starting with Dr Drees The Chronic in 1992 before that point ganger rap was popular but so were other forms of hip-hop there was dance and party hip-hop more eclectic stuff that traditional boom bap stuff that still sounded like it was from the 70s there was all kinds of things happening with hip-hop but in the early 90s gangster rap would pretty much replace all forms of rap music at the highest mainstream levels of the industry this is not to say that other forms of rap didn’t exist The Roots came out in the mid 99s Outcast came out in the mid 90s and so on but to be a meast star rapper you had to be hard and from the streets even if in reality you really weren’t which ironically is low-key true for Dr Dre himself so when Kanye was trying to get on in the early 2000s he was presented with a pretty big barrier to try to be the mega star that he always knew he was in his head going back to that Drake reference Kanye is literally more privileged and further from the traditional hip-hop background than Drake is Kanye is a child of two college educated College professors and went to some of the best schools in Chicago and existed greatly apart from the more Hood areas of Chicago there’s also a lot of speculation that Kanye is NE diverse and I don’t want to get too far into that but I will say that Kanye was different and eccentric you might even say weird and many of his peers then and now will talk about how difficult he sometimes was to be around I need a film permit he can walk wherever he wants we can walk wherever we want we can walk where I’m sure he can walk anywhere I just need to see the perit walk wherever we want we can walk wherever we want we around keep playing around it’s also very clear that he has always thought highly of himself he was always artistically driven by things that weren’t as popular with other black people so there was nowhere for Kanye to really fit in hip-hop at the time time at least at the mainstream highest level Kanye was running around in New York with Rockefeller records with former drug deal turn CEO Jay-Z former and current Street goon beanie seagull Cameron freeway the diplomats and Kanye West but this is actually where things get interesting and I think we have to start doing some historical reappraisal Kanye’s favorite rapper coming up was Jay-Z he made two whole songs about it but Kanye sound was actually more appropriate for another subg genre of [Music] hip-hop conscious hip-hop is just as old as any other genre of rap music in fact some of the earliest rap music might be considered conscious hip-hop with Grandmaster Flash doing the message way back in that had to be like 8182 conscious hip-hop isn’t easy to Define but I think one of the like most sensible ways to describe it is woke as in the term woke that’s been bastardized by white people and Republicans and [ __ ] woke predates hip hop it has its origins in Black communities being a term used to discuss how black people should be aware of political realities and discourses and you can’t talk about hip hop without talking about the fact that wild hip hop is connected to that disco era and party culture it’s also very closely tied to Urban black and brown populations and say places like New York and also Detroit Los Angeles DC Etc which means it had a lot of black political traditions and radical thought involved in it so you had early conscious rap with a very clear Pro black ethos like Public Enemy brand Newan boogie down production Etc and that conscious rap was a little different than how we consider it now because it was much more militant and aggressive and to a great extent it didn’t look any different than the gangster rap of the era but due to its militant Pro black energy it was definitely less desirable for corporate administrators who controlled hip-hop to promote it so over time you got a lot less jru the damager and a lot more Drew down brother with gangster rap taking over the airwaves by the mid90s conscious rap went through a mutation of sorts it kind of merged with the underground hip-hop scene and the alternative rap scene to become more lyrical and sensitive and thoughtful while being a little bit less militant and that was because the sounds became more organic and Jazzy sometimes exper irental because they were open to doing that because they didn’t have to appeal to that mainstream audience plus we’re starting to get a lot more hip-hop from other regions because you have like the far side and the west coast and Common Sense coming out of Chicago and arrest of Development coming out of the South and that wave continues to be like this really cool like genre within hip-hop but under the mainstream gangster rap umbrella why is this important to Kanye well Kanye just fit in better there his personality his background his inability to be convincing as a street rapper it didn’t work there he found himself being stonewalled by Jay-Z and Dame Dash who signed him to a record contract but really weren’t interested in putting him in the front to like make his music you know I’m sorry to all the backpack Community you know due to the fact that I was from the streets but I never killed anybody it was just easier for me to pose like a Backpacker but I actually really love Street [ __ ] and I don’t really listen to backpack music like that I listen to Cash Money JayZ little baby let me just say something I post this a back this is something that’s documented on the Netflix documentary genius which was wild to see because Kanye West is literally walking around the Rockefeller like records offices or whatever playing songs from College Dropout playing I think G Jesus walk and all falls down and like some of these amazing songs and people in the office are looking at him like something’s wrong with him they’re looking at him like he’s dumb like he’s not being Kanye West in their face in the moment it’s really is wild it makes me kind of understand why Kanye was so incredibly cocky early on in his career is they’re literally listening to Jesus walks and then they said all right that’s cool but we got to focus on this Memphis Bleak album this this is why Dame Dash hasn’t done much for himself since him and Jay-Z broke up but moving on so Kanye pivoted and found an audience that was interested in what he was doing and started collaborating to build himself more of a buzz specifically he went on tour with most def Ty qu most def and TB were icons of conscious Rapp at the time they started at the group black star before releasing classic albums of their own they weren’t as big as Jay-Z but they were still juggernauts in hip-hop and in the space that they occupied it also didn’t hurt that Kanye made beatss that were perfect for a conscious hip-hop so suddenly Kanye West was a Backpacker and things seemed like they were going well here’s Kanye in this community that he lowkey belongs with the Backpackers and the conscious folks are political Kanye’s political the Backpackers and conscious folks are eclectic and Kanye was eclectic and eccentric and a lot of the rappers would appreciate the organic and Soulful sounds that Kanye West tried to make and a lot of these guys loved and championed a certain type of black femininity that was earthy and like natural we got Jill Scott and Erica Badu and Lauren Hill and Kanye he like big titty white women yeah it’s obvious now that Kanye has a very specific type of woman that he’s into but at the time you know he didn’t really know but you can see the change over the years he start out with his first major girlfriend Alexis feifer and then we just get lighter and lighter to Amber Rose Kim K Julia Fox and and now you have to consider that his wife Beyonce sorri is probably exactly the type of woman he’s always wanted to be with and we know this because he said it himself over 10 years ago before he even was dating Kim Kardashian I’m not trying to put on the problem for me is I really like like porn and that type of like body style and stuff but then I really I’m super like Frenchy fashion guy I would marry a porn star that I came to that conclusion have to go into Brazil and I would just be like yo what like I you know I like man I respect IC te so much WoW cuz you know he’s having way more fun than anybody else in that red carpet and this is further elaborated and confirmed that he was like this way in 20012 2002 from Talib quali when he appeared on the math haa podcast stage show like a punchline he said he said I got a white girl on my arm she’s matched with my outfit and it was funny but my crowd would boo sometimes they would be like boo you know what I’m saying but I was like that [ __ ] was funny to me back then but it was like I didn’t see where it was going to lead it was great now I want to be clear cuz [ __ ] like take me out of context I’m not saying that liking white women is a problem or that you can’t even be woke or conscious if you like white women I know Dr Umar wouldn’t agree but that’s my opinion still it’s not maybe the best branding strategy for marketing yourself as a conscious rapper hence Kanye getting booed when he talked about this at the shows but I guess he couldn’t help himself and and it kind of show story of Kanye being this originator of conscious hip-hop that just changed over time another example is in the way that Kanye has always wrapped some really cringe bars about sex and women like hip-hop has you know misogyny in it but Kanye’s misogyny it’s a little different recently came out with a song with some of you new little young [ __ ] I don’t remember who they are and he says the line in the beginning of his verse yeah before I send a [ __ ] a blessing I need to see if the sex good I’m a sexist and I almost want to laugh but the line is too dumb it’s it’s it’s almost clever because it’s so crash like I I appreciate crash humor and crash hip hop but the [ __ ] doesn’t make any sense and then coming from Kanye in particular especially with his recent accusations of sexual harassment these are bars that should not exist but I bring it up cuz I’d argue that if this line happened on Dark Fantasy or late registration we probably would have gave it a pass I talked about this on the bsid video a little while back when vultures one dropped when we still liked Kanye and saw him as a Backpacker and heard him saying these horrible bars we thought it was kind of funny and ironic and that’s because we would also hear him say some real perspective and Powerful [ __ ] in other songs so there was more of a balance like even if I’m right and all of this stuff was a front the whole time it doesn’t take away from the fact that Kanye West made some really amazing conscious hip-hop in that you know 5 10 year period at the beginning of his career Jesus Walks All Falls Down Where The Roses homecoming so on Kanye knew how to make impactful conscious hip-hop that connected with people so when he would slip in a bar like I always had a PhD a pretty huge dick that’s a real line we just thought it was funny we thought oh Kanye just just whing just being silly but now it’s like no that was just him being himself and without the veneer of thinking about him in that specific way all I can think about is that life of Pablo line about you know models with bleach [ __ ] and the way that rhymefest responded to that by basically stop being his friend if it’s all vanity or all Humanity it don’t work now if I this model and she just bleached her ass and I get bleach on my t-shirt and I’m going feel like a ass that’s all vanity that’s no Humanity this right here this was the beginning and this is when I took a airplane and went home and said I get out of zero those types of lines have always been there with Kanye that PhD line is from College Dropout but we just felt differently about Kanye at the time time and because we felt differently we didn’t clock them another thing that we didn’t clock but now the evidence is everywhere is that Kanye has a longstanding addiction to pornography this is something I didn’t talk about in those old videos because it wasn’t out as much back then but Kanye has recently talked about the fact that he’s been addicted to pornography since he was a kid and it’s affected him his whole life Playboy was my Gateway into fullon pornography addiction now I I feel weird talking about this cuz porn and porn addiction is a complex topic and I do personally feel that there are legitimate problems with the level of consumption of porn and the level of pornography on social media and how easy it is to get access to it but there’s also this really weird like way that people transmute the porn addiction into wanting to police women and just general Mass misogyny and right-wing ideology is just too close to comfort for me and that’s sometimes what Kanye sounds like when he’s talking about it but he’s also still talking about mental health and addiction so I don’t have a strong take there but I will say that if you look through Kanye’s career thinking about him being addicted to porn the whole time you can kind of see where it pops up and it’s not just those runchy bars it’s not just him talking about wanting to marry a porn star in 2011 it’s in the infamous video for I think it was called actually porn star off Dark Fantasy where he had all the new body doubles it’s the rumors of him putting horor code pornography on the screen during business meetings it’s that weird song that he did with Lil pump where he talks about I don’t know what the [ __ ] he’s talking about in that song such I’m ack I like I like at the time it just came across as Kanye Antics and that is also another thing that we might have to look at differently one of Kanye’s biggest moments ever a moment that is still held dear by black people is him going off script right after Hurricane Katrina to criticize then President Bush build and remain in the area the destruction of the spirit of the people of Southern Louisiana and Mississippi may end up being the most tragic loss of all George Bush doesn’t care about black people please call in the past few days and I don’t think like people that weren’t there at the time fully understand just how shocking that was today there’s a whole economy of black political think peace producers and hot takes and people who are building whole careers in journalism or Tik Tok or YouTube talking about black issues and issues of racism so it’s normal to hear black people talk about race in 2024 if I say Joe Biden is a racist because of the you know 94 crime bill or you know supporting a genocide right now it’s not really anything wild for most people to hear but in 2005 right after what they did to the Dixie Chicks if you know you know like Kanye wasn’t Kanye West yet at that point I don’t even think he had dropped the second album that took a lot of guts but maybe it didn’t for Kanye maybe he just is into saying wild [ __ ] in public that may sound like a hot take but ask yourself when is the last time after he said that that Kanye ever said any significant or political in service of black people I can’t think of anything I’m sure he must have said something but for the most part ever since that moment when it comes to Black issues Kanye ain’t said [ __ ] there’s a comment from one of the older Kanye videos I did that lives rentree in my head that basically says that the only thing that’s true about Kanye as a person is that he’s a contrarian he’s almost pathological and needing to go against whatever the ongoing Trend or prevailing thought of the time is and as public sensibilities became more Progressive and other celebrities began to speak out for Progressive causes it’s like Kanye found himself somehow going with the grain and decided that he had to make sure that he was special and that he was unique and started going against going against the grain does that make sense Kanye constantly spews out what I call pseudo intellectual negro nonsense or pin for short and that’s just another way of saying he’s a smart dumb [ __ ] Kanye is on record saying he doesn’t read you know the type of dumb [ __ ] he says in public but it’s like it’s wild that a man that has that many strong opinions and so much convention his beliefs refuses to actually research the [ __ ] he says he believes in but that’s kind of the whole point to Kanye and people like him it’s not actually about being smart or intelligent or wise or knowledgeable it’s about having the audacity to be loud and opinionated regardless of the quality of one’s opinions so you think about it like that you realize reading just gets in the way it’s just much easier to listen to whatever Candace Owen says and that works because it makes him more abrasive and more contrarian it’s not that Kanye has well-developed or deep held beliefs about anything important he just knows the thing to say that will piss people off and bring him attention and you can see it like especially in this last press run every time Kanye either says some ridiculous ass [ __ ] or is about to say some ridicul ulous ass [ __ ] he gets this goofy ass smile on his face like a little badass kid that knows he’s about to say something he’s not supposed to say there’s a joy within it for him to be a person saying the thing that you’re not supposed to say and it it’s the [ __ ] is frustrating and it makes you reconsider what George Bush doesn’t care about black people was all about 20 years ago but even a modern example is his whole thing with anti-semitism much has been made about Kanye’s anti-Semitism and I don’t want to downplay it or talk too long about it because it’s way more complex than I can give time for right now I did at one point want to make a whole video about it I still might at some point in time but I’m sure you know if you’re watching my channel that there’s a lot going on around the way that certain platforms engage with any type of discussion around Jewish Americans and Judaism in general and with the stench of hotep already surrounding me I’m going to just not I’m just I’m just going to chill for a little bit but I do want to point out that Kanye’s anti-Semitism is not typical of what anti-Semitism actually looks like in Black spaces anti-Semitism is something that does exist in Black political spaces but it’s built out of a long-standing complex and difficult relationship that black people have with Jewish people in America that’s not what Kanye is on Kanye is not on that Lis farakhan [ __ ] he’s more on that Nick f forchan [ __ ] there’s really no black centered critique of how Jewish Americans and black Americans have had issues with each other coming from Kanye West it’s just LOL I made a swasika into the Star of David isn’t that funny and if you think about it that’s how a lot of forchan gper type people deal with their racism it’s never explicitly about the actual harm being done it’s always this detached irony that this is all just us being and edgy and like there’s a lot of white people watching me a lot of white boys out there right now in that alt-right phase that started out watching PewDiePie and other people being edgy and funny about race and Jews and [ __ ] like that and I’m not trying to downplay like what that is but I do think it’s important to look at that versus like the current encroachment of Christian fascism going on as slightly different things they’re connected but they’re not the same and so bringing that back full circle 20 years ago when you hear Kanye say that about George Bush I wonder if that was sincere like How Deeply rooted was that in Kanye West to the point where it never came out again and he’s so far on the opposite end of the spectrum at this point and that moment in particular won him so much Goodwill in the eyes of black people myself included because that was such a powerful moment but how long long are we going to allow that one moment to hide what Kanye is right now and what he may have even been at the time it seems to me that it’s more likely that that was just another example of him trying to do something that would bring attention to himself and that brings you to my last piece of evidence about Kanye West’s real relationship with black people and black culture and it’s a sobering thing to think about but I think we have to start to consider that Kanye West has been much more anti-black that we’ve given him credit for for a long time this said gives him headaches what um let us know what was the idea to go somewhere different than you did before I mean just in life if you’ve like the type of music and you listen to it all the time you know why not follow your heart why not follow what makes you happy I remember when I I mean song American I mean the movie American werewolf and Paris came out and it had the theme song I think was by blur nothing hurts like your mouth mouth mouth and like me and my friends used to love that song so much and it was like we weren’t supposed to like the song or something because of where we were from like today we know how anti-black Kanye can be we saw him disrespect Harriet Tubman we saw him say slavery was a choice the Maga hat white lives matter Kanye has made a pattern of willfully disrespecting black people again and again but there’s ways that he telegraphed this ideology well before we realized what was happening I mentioned earlier that Kanye grew up apart from like typical traditional black spaces in Chicago went private schools he even lived in China for a year or so with his mother and so this isn’t exactly the same as living in the suburbs but it’s pretty close to it because his mother sheltered him a lot from what Chicago might have shown him growing up as it pertains to black people Kanye’s experience was different and certain things tend to happen to black children grow up a bit too different from their black peers AKA they can get teased and bullied in a very specific and often very like harmful way I refer to this as the fly in the milk experience it’s something that comes up in Black social media all the time for those kids who say they talk to white or act black or nobody lik me cuz I was a black nerd etc etc and I always feel like the course around that is always like far too binary there’s so much happening in between where each side of that conversation has like legitimate grievances but specifically for people like Kanye it what happens is that they develop a very strong but also very hard to pin down sense of anti-blackness that makes them see black people as genuinely inferior it’s one of the reasons why I think Kanye gets along with Candace Owens cuz she had the exact same experience finish this response God is good God is good amen no no no I thought you say God is great thank you for the I’m going do you sh sham God is good all the time and all the time God is good that’s right where’s that from Jes Christ can these folks tend to perceive themselves apart from Black Culture they tend to perceive Black Culture as being inferior and developing certain negative beliefs and attitudes about black people that they’re usually learning from the white surroundings that they’re immersed in and so that might not seem like something Kanye did if you weren’t paying attention and you weren’t there at the time because I remember vividly the way Kanye talked about kge Dropout versus late registration it’s during these conversations around these two albums that you start to see that Kanye had a relatively dismissive and negative attitude towards black art and black art traditions and had a very high opinion of whatever it was that white people were doing it’s not super obvious but you hear the dog whistles performing at Abby rooll was just it’s one of those type of things when you’re dreaming of being a a musician or a rapper you you don’t even fathom that and when it’s brought up it’s like oh wow we can actually do that and the fact that I work with John Bryan I work with Tommy and Rosie uh and we did a lot of orchestrations it just it it was a no-brainer for us to work with the strings on it and I thought it would bring this performance to another level this another class of hip-hop going forward when you hear him in the late Virgil Alo say they’re going to uplift The Taste palette of black culture and urban art and fashion you’re seeing a pattern here and I’m not saying that this didn’t produce amazing music cuz it did but the ways that we often talk about like doac cat and post Malone about how they talk about rap music after coming up as rappers this is kind of how Kanye sounds in these old interviews another example of this is coming from that Infamous interview with sway where he’s yelling at him telling him he doesn’t have the answers a lot of people know that moment just cuz it was so viral and ridiculous but what they were arguing about in that interview was Kanye not getting access to the white ran fashion industry in the way he thought he deserved and sway was trying to tell him yo [ __ ] the white ran fashion industry we got you here black people love what you’re doing make stuff for us and Kanye that wasn’t good enough for him that was really the core of that conflict yourself yes but I spent hundreds of thousands anding putting out clothing lines at a smaller degree all I’m asking you ain’t no Ralph though it ain’t Ralph level let Charlamagne the God said something I thought was super insightful about Kanye years ago maybe before things got really bad but whether regardless it was still relevant he said that he doesn’t know any black men that is more thirsty and needy for the approval of white people and I can’t help but see how that’s relevant throughout a lot of Kanye’s career a lot of that was there at the beginning whether it was jumping on stage with Taylor Swift the Antics at all these award shows just the tryhard nature of Kanye and the way they was so eager and like careless with shedding a lot of these black elements to his music it’s it’s there it’s just there and we didn’t notice it because he was so good at playing the role for us we gave him a lot of Grace I know I’m just maybe speaking for myself there shout out to all of you who got off the boat early but for other Kanye fans I know I’m not the only one those early years were such a revelation such a high point in like hip-hop black and just masculinity black masculinity culture that you kept hoping and waiting for that guy to show back up when really that guy had done what he was supposed to do and the guy that we have now is the guy that been there the whole time I remember a few years back when Kanye was first taking a crack at gossip music I got invited to the show he did at New Birth here in Atlanta it was an interesting experience and it was still in the middle of maybe Kanye is going to come out of this this was after slavery was a choice but before um I tried to kill my baby or whatever he said about Harry tutman before things got worse and at this time Kanye would still bother to like go show up for black media and apologize and cry and make amends for things he was doing it still seemed like he wanted to be better than he was and for most of a year he would do those Sunday service videos and it felt like something in him was trying to heal like he must have realized just how off his Square he was he was trying to get it together by returning to his faith maybe by reconnecting to something that he remembers his mother from it looked a little cult-like I’m on front the whole Sunday service thing it gave cult a little bit but it also gave Culture The Vibes were Immaculate look he mixed house music with gospel and whatever thing he did it I don’t know maybe it was coella that [ __ ] was so good I’m getting Goosebumps right now just having the nostalgic auditory connection to how much of a good vibe that was maybe that’s just cuz I’m a Chicago negro but if you know you know so at this particular church service that was the vibe and I remember seeing him on stage just kind of wandering around with his head down and it was it was tough to watch I had never seen Kanye in person that was my first time ever seeing it back in that must have been 2019 and he looked broken and he didn’t talk much and when he did talk it wasn’t the most coherent thing this was also when we were first finding out that he was bipolar so you couldn’t help but sit there and look at this shell of the man he used to be and say now my man just need help my man just need help he just needs support and like I was literally in church praying for him to get his [ __ ] together and then after that you see you see him running off to the mountains and popping up with you know most de and Dave Chappelle and other folks that were his boys and were trying to maybe talk some sense into him and that was inspiring because I’m not like despite the reputation I have I’m not a cancel culture type of guy I don’t believe in cancelling people nobody ever actually really gets cancelled anyway watch my old videos to understand that take and this is not to say I don’t draw certain lines of certain things and certain situations but I believe that most people’s problems are a product of factors that are either in their control or not in their control and a lot of times if they’re within their control if they have the support they need to get those things right then they can get right and that’s what we should always be focused on even with some of our worst folks not the very worst not the very worst but some of our folks black or otherwise need more than anything to be cocooned and like brought into the fold and worked on more than they need to be made into L cows but that’s what Kanye made of himself as you saw Kanye do the white supremacist podcast tour did you notice that he only talked to one black person and it was at the very beginning and it was Nori on the drink chaps interview that I’ve been playing during this video after he talked to Nori he didn’t talk to no more [ __ ] we washed our hands of Kanye it was Fuentes and Alex Jones or Pierce Morgan or whoever else and that was it the fact that we washed our hands of Kanye and he hasn’t popped up on hardly any black media in two years now should tell you something black folks have had enough and I don’t think y’all get what it takes for black folks to have enough of a talented black man there are black folks still riding for our Kelly Bill Cosby and puffy we will hold a [ __ ] down well beyond the appropriate expiration date but Kanye has no [ __ ] on his team and to me at this point it’s clear that that’s more probably for him than for us that’s what he wants and I think that’s the case because he knows that black folks will try to hold him accountable and that’s not what Kanye wants so I can’t help but look at that drink Champs interview and recognize that while we might miss the old Kanye the current Kanye definitely does not that’s all I got for this one y’all um Drake Kendrick video God willing right after the fourth if not earlier we’ll see still working on fixing some wrecks that have happened with the video the joys of being a YouTuber please if you can support me on nebula patreon and as a channel member you can see a near final version of the first hour yes first hour of the Drake video it’s over three hours long at this point um on my patreon and as a channel member 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  1. The most uncanny thing about kanyes career is seeing himself turn his album narratives from progressive conscious, to semi conscious, to only self aware, to half assed, consciously dealing with problems, to unconsciously ignore those problems and to ultimately abandon all sorts of consciousness in favor of songs of "all vanity and no humanity". Seeing a backpack rapper with a classic conscious album abandon it on all fronts is just reality shattering

  2. Thank you for explaining what “woke” is supposed to mean: waking up in our political consciousness.

  3. Someone finally said what I’ve always said producer wise top 3 all time no debate artist wise barely a step above soundcloud rappers only song that was good that he wasn’t carried on was “power”

  4. There's a point where intellectualizing becomes counterproductive. I think about that a lot while watching certain video essays

  5. 31:55 I noticed when he said that line about leaving BW for a yt girl. I noticed when on stage during his political campaign, he declared that he hates BW. I noticed when he gifted Julia, and all her friends designer bags, the only friend in the picture that didn't receive a bag was the black one. People don't care when someone attacks BW until they realize, it starts with BW and extends to all black people.

  6. I liked a few of his songs, but I really didn't see him as a conscious rapper. There was always something off just under the surface. Random little disturbing phrases distracted from the rest of his lyrics. I was never fully convinced, and I was surprised when he became so popular. When gold digger came out , I thought more people would start to question him. He did a cover to a Ray Charles song about how a man's woman looks out for him, and gives him money. Ye changed it to degrade his woman and just calls her a gold digger. "It's real life though". Women who support their men are real too. But gangsta rap made it ok to belittle black women, and so many people didn't question it before , and therefore didn't question when Ye did it. I also agree that Ye is a contrarine. And he never made sense even during his early career. "George Bush don't care about black people", even if you agree with that statement, Ye blurting it out like that when he never really talked about black social/political issues was wired and out of place.

  7. Growing up as a Black American outside of poverty or the inner city doesn't make that individual become anti black; even if they were teased as a child by other black people. Malcolm X, and many other prominent black leaders didn't grow up in poor neighborhoods and inner cities. But all black children grow up in a country where violence and nonphysical assaults are constantly directed towards us. Likewise , there are many Black people who grew up in poor inner cities, and country towns, who exhibit anti-blackness. Ye and Owens choose to be the way that they are, not because they don't fit in with Black people, but because of self hate. They have internalized racism so deeply, that they see themselves as inferior, and hope that their actions will cause their oppressors to accept them
    It's not about fitting in with other black people, it's about an internalized inferiority. The American Black community is diverse, and that doesn't make someone anti black or feel superior to other black people. Because in the end, I can enjoy listening to the Red Hot Chili Peppers while driving my hybrid SUV, but the police will only see another…..on the road.

  8. can vibe with most of your views, but for some reason it strikes a chord within me to almost instantly stop taking what im hearing seriously when the group i would be identified by you is always initially/inherently described as 'boys' instead of people. its difficult for me to look past little microcosms like this on an emotional level and im conscious of whats bothering me.

  9. That "I like A.H" is like… come on, this says nothing. Stars chasing for clout with this kinda topics because they know YOU will take that serious and YOU will cry abt it. That is literally it, staying relevant. Pls do not cover topics that are purely for business reasons bcs finding an explanation for this actually taking the bait.

    Besides that, good video. Only one person is more evil than Kanye: Taylor narcissism Swift.

  10. You know it's bad when F.D. has more criticism for Kanye than he has for Obama.
    'I like F.D when he's talking about musicians, I don't like F.D when he's talking about his favorite war criminal'

  11. Kanye said that one of the worst decisions he had made was sigining Big Sean to his GOOD Music company.

    Thank God that Big Sean walks on his own and is still thankful to Ye.

    Big Sean got his own brand, FF to Def and has a family of his own.

    In addition, the way that some look at Kanye today is kinda similar to people like Jerry Seinfeld and Rob Schneider. They were aight back in the day, but now is not the "flavor". LIFE GOES ON!!!

  12. This dude is a mega hater, honestly a sad thing to claim, Enjoy the next four years.

  13. Kanye West is basically "Evil Modern Day Van-Gogh" at this point. I say this as someone with firsthand bipolar family experiences and plenty of my own mental health struggles…there's not an excuse for this kind of bs. Kanye reached a certain level of status and power where he no longer had to face the consequences of how his actions affected others and from there kept taking the path of least resistance. It's the mental health equivalent of endangering others because it gives you a rush and you know the only punishment is a fine. And from there it really REALLy spiraled because that's what happens when you stop trying to manage your mental health.

    there's some casual remarks about mental health in this video that I don't take as malicious but i definitely do not endorse, but the general point her of "mental health and whatever the hell Kanye is doing are correlation not causation" is something I agree with.

  14. You know i kinda feel like if Kanye had kept a normal squeaky clean kinda image it would not have given those kinda mish mash of old and new, soul and rap, orchestra and hip hop and I would think it wouldn't have inspired other to that next step to try something new. I am a new Kanye fan and i don't care what he has to say about anything because to me it isn't his job to live a life pleasing to me, but to himself.
    I feel like this video is someone going through a break up between the idea they love vs the reality. In break ups we always seek to blame the other person but never ourselves because the ego does nothing wrong but at some point you need to ask yourself was my ideals to harsh, was i just not meant for this, is it them or me or us both. I guess when it comes to super stars its always them never us because the transcend being mere people and become a type of god. IMO the real title of this video is, "Why Kanye does not match my idea of black excellence"

  15. Of course this boy would spend 40 minutes trying to take down the guy who clearly works against his blackness-dependent ego.

  16. This is one of the most delusional things i've ever seen. bro literally had his highest charting song ever this year

  17. Thats hilarious because the 1st memory I have of Kanye was him going crazy at a radio station for bleeping the word "white girl"

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