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[Music] been telling you for a while there’s a way to do both there’s a way to graft on to the Sydney Crosby roster and to make sure landscape isn’t Barren when he’s gone good morning to you good Monday morning I’m D kovachich of DK Pittsburgh sports and this is daily shot of penguins it comes your way bright and early every weekday if you’re into football or baseball I also offer daily shots of Steelers and pirates in the same place that you found this Kyle dubis made a trade with the blues over the NHL draft weekend in Las Vegas to bring Kevin Hayes to Pittsburgh which immediately is going to set off the kneejerk a look at them getting younger by adding the 32y old now all of their centers actually Hayes is the youngest of their four centers between Sid and youny Malin and L Zeller but that is spectacularly missing the point because the other thing that dubis picked up in that trade was a second round pick in 2025 St Louis’s second round pick I should add and I don’t believe that anybody’s expecting the blues to have some big breakthrough this winter so it could be a pretty high second rounder that’s a nice asset to acquire that’s a nice way to acquire that nice asset we will commonly think of draft picks as things that general managers just need or want to preserve well there’s also a way to get them and there’s a way to get them by just ponying up the blues were looking for cap space the blues decided that Haze was Expendable in that context dubis comes along and says give me a good pick and we’ll take him so they take him they add somebody to the bottom six who’s functional and everything else who’s not named Eller the team gets a little bit stronger and I I like Hayes by the way I’ve always liked him I have a bit of a soft spot for him because he’s one of the funniest dudes in the NHL but he’s also smart and sound defensively really good on faceoffs he’ll kill penalties he’ll work the power play and he’ll create offense he’s he’s unusual to watch on the attack uh he he creates offense kind of the way Brian Bole did which looks like it’s from a stand still it’s not that he’s slow or whatever it’s just that he’ll operate from a stationary almost tripod to make his plays but he will make plays and he’ll stick handle you’ll see you’ll see but the acquisition there is the second rounder it’s adding to the catalog it’s adding to the scouts pool of being able to add players they like to stockpile really stockpile prospects into the Pittsburgh system for the first time in so long that even I can’t site a year for you and I’ve been covering this team since 1997 they just generally haven’t done things this way but it’s the right approach and there’s more players to get today of course at noon the NHL’s free agency period opens and there’s going to be people getting I’m sure irrationally excited about this thinking oo they could get this guy they could get that guy and look at this name and that name it’s not going to happen this episode is brought to you by bet online your number one source for all your summer Sports needs this season from Major League Baseball golf NHL NBA playoffs get the latest odds and lines including all team matchups player props odds on just about everything that’s out there head to the website today or use your mobile device to get in on the action bet online where the game starts the penguins have less than $6 million in cap space they have very little that they can do to free up more cap space and they’re not going to go spending all of it on you know5 million player or commit to some long-term deal dubis said as much by the way in Las Vegas so what you’d be hoping for there in a similar Spirit to the acquisition of the second rounder is younger players and they do exist I have people constantly biting back at me whenever I say that dubis could have gotten younger players last summer for his bottom six as opposed to the nol aari and Mato types but they do happen you have to take a little bit of a gamble you have to see something in that player’s skill set that maybe his previous employer didn’t see if that sounds like I’m talking about Eric branstrom the Lefty defenseman that the Senators have just basically let go I kind of am but he’s not going to be alone these guys are going to be out there you have to get a little bit creative you have to dig a little bit deeper you can’t be Ron hexol about it you got to do some work and you bring in these types of players with quantity reasonable quantity understanding that you can’t just collect contracts there are limits to these things but you say to yourself all right here’s po Joseph who by the way the Penguins didn’t qualify yesterday but he still might end up signing in Pittsburgh if he doesn’t you can go for a branstrom if neither of them does you go for somebody else but you you’re kind of in that family there where you’re relying to an extent on your scouting people but also your development people and even your NHL level coaches to get the best out of these players to make them better than they were wherever they’d just been once more with energy here I like this this feels to me like how I’m sure the Penguins feel about watching Drew o’ Conor Bloss him into a top six forward a Bonafide top six forward as a college free agent never needed to be drafted college free agents love the Penguins because they know the system is terrible go get some more of them keep telling them that the system is terrible even when it isn’t dubis said something at his session in Las Vegas that that piqued my interest when in in talking it wasn’t very much about Sid’s extension negotiations and so forth he blurred it out I’m not sure he wanted to that part of what’s being discussed there is that Sid wants to know that the team isn’t going to suck you know I don’t think anybody want to ride out a brilliant career like that Sid wants to be in Pittsburgh Sid wants to spend his entire career with the Penguins I’m positive that he will but why should he before putting pen to paper just blindly accept that he’s going to be part of some rebuild when he doesn’t need to be and dub is making that known whether he wanted to or not I think was letting all the rest of us know hey here this might be some of the foundation of what you’re seeing you might see a Kevin Hayes you also might see a second round draft pick and they’ll somehow be working in concert when we come back j1q [Music] today’s j1q comes from Mark who says Hey DK I’ve been thinking about the Stanley Cup Final and that Edmonton power play how they would slowly pull the forwards down low strangling the PK like a python is this the model that you see for the Penguins power play I’ve got a couple of ways to answer this Mark and they’re not going to be harmonious but here me out yes that’s how I see the Penguin’s power play when it’s been most effective over the past couple of years they do what I’ve been referring to as collapsing where inste just seeing Sid way over here and Gino way out there and Brian rust way over on the far boards and everybody’s just going around the porn all that perimeter Puck movement I see them at their best when they’re just moving in Tighter and Tighter and Tighter the Oilers are the best at this in large part because Leon dry Sidle is the best at this Conor McDavid will do the dancing all over creation Ryan nent Hopkins will make sure that the left wall is taken care of as well as any defending that needs to happen he’ll make really smart passes you know by now after watching those playoffs what Evan buar and matius EOL bring you at the points but it’s dry cidal who makes it go because he’s such a threat to shoot from even the most severe angle on the right side Sid doesn’t really see himself as that he’ll do it but he’s never been great at he’s not he doesn’t have what I’d consider to be a great one-time and boy is that not a criticism of Sid just I mean you can’t have literally everything but that’s when it would work that’s when it would click if you recall not this past season but the previous season when Ricard Raquel joined the power play late over the final two months he had 10 Power Play Goals he was really making things happen from that left half wall he was doing a lot of that Phil kessle used to do a lot of that also from the left side now this is why I just wasted my breath sharing all of that with you David Quinn is going to be the power play coach Mike Sullivan made that known at the draft in Las Vegas and Sullivan went so far as to say out loud that Quinn is going to make us a stronger coaching staff not sure what that must have sounded like to Todd Reen the only departed member of the coaching staff since this past season but Sullivan’s the one who said it not me and with Quinn I don’t think you have to overthink this Quinn was the head coach in San Jose when Eric Carlson won the Norris Trophy for a last place team by putting up 100 plus points a lot of those with the man advantage and all the sharks were doing is all that Carlson play stuff that I’ve been talking to you guys about ever since that trade was executed it’s get a bunch of dudes to the net get the puck to 65 get ready that’s your power play he’ll find a way to get it through he’ll find a way to get it onto your blade as long as your blade is presented and from there you’re at the beach shooting into the ocean that’s it that’s that’s the power play that Quinn ran with the sharks now is he going to be required to you know delve a little deeper into that because he does have to get Sid and Gino and you know who knows who else out of this group onto the first unit because that’s just how things are done but it’s going to be really really interesting again again for a second consecutive year to see how they enter training camp to hear about what kind of conversations they’ve had including with the players you can’t omit the players from this power play is not a normal thing the power play is not an NFL offense where you can drop X’s and O’s and say you go here you go there and this is how the play is going to happen if everybody executes no way too many variables I appreciate the question appreciate everybody listening to daily shot of penguins we’re going to do another one of these tomorrow [Music]
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But..we need a #2 center…or are we leaving MALKIN in the middle???
Stock piling picks for the future is a very sensible approach to prepare for the future!
Know how you can be wide AND tight on the same play? Fibonacci and reverse fibonacci plays! Seriously look at some of the best PP plays 2016 and 2017 and it was even going on in 5on5. Theres a flow state to it which usually leads to a point shot or deflect tight. And its really pretty to watch too. They stepped away from it for a while buy actually had a few goals mid to late season doing it. Its only one thing but it just seems so slept on
Wow no happy Canada day? That stings.
As long as the future considerations aren’t too great!
Happy Canada Day DK – may good memories of your beloved Winnepeg warm your soul today!
Alex Nylander didn't recive a qualifying offer by Columbus for his good output, wow. No I am not suggesting signing him, but it is surprising they didn't give him an offer.
Carter 3.0. Fire sully
Trying to be open minded here…but in Toronto he built a stock pile of picks and prospects, then traded them to try and build a team to win…and they didn't win…with the exception of Ryan O'Reilly, non of his trades worked out. And on top of that, he thought Bunting would be a replacement for Hyman….Hyman went on to have continual growth, Bunting regressed to the 3rd line or at best 2nd line level output……I find the Guentzel situation similar to be honest….we will fill 'Guentzels' shoes with people who could replace him…and Guentz will continue to produce and who we have as a replacement won't meet the same standards.
Sid has got an amazing one timer but just doesn’t utilize it that much. He keeps things simple and he does it magnificently
get all the new players they want, but they need a coaching staff that can maximize their potential.
I’ve also always liked Kevin Hayes! I’m really excited to have him
What's he doing? He's smartly realizing this team isn't going anywhere this year or even next no matter how much they spend or go big on FA's this summer. The Karlsson fiasco proved that, and why Jake wasn't given a big bag of cash to stay last season. What's the point? To possibly squeak in and get pasted? Is that a goal? But hey, he tried to make it work with this core last offseason Give him credit for realizing the sad state of affairs they are in and not trying to paint the old lumber with a fresh coat of hope to hide it's flaws. Everything he does going forward should be about looking at what they can do once Sid is gone, so when that day comes, he's not starting from complete scratch. If he moves fast and smart enough, the future might actually get to play along side Sid and make the transition easier and less painful. The Hayes deal was about the pick. I'm assuming someone else will take his contract that's being partially paid for by the Flyers as long as he packages him with another player like Smith or Eller for yet another pick.
I don’t understand the worry of eventually hitting rock bottom. It’s the way this team built 2 dynastic teams. Do we want to become the Steelers?
It certainly would be nice to see a strong bottom six with a strong power. Thanks DK Great show
Teravainen and Marchessault both sign for less than $5.5. Crickets from Dubas. Absolutely obnoxious.
Bring back Jim Rutherford, Dubas is a fraud. Again what accomplishment can Wonderboy claim?
Kevin hayes is like the hot girl you like in high school. Then you see her again when she's thirty and she's gained thirty pounds and has two kids And she's not quite as hot but she's willing to date you So you settle…… That's what this feels like
Well I see the worst GM in the NHL is wearing his contacts lol. This guy is so clueless. Look who he drafted. Same type of players he drafted with Leafs, small. He will run this franchise into the ground. I know Sid's favourite team growing up was Montreal. How long til he ask to be dealt. Woe is Pittsburg.
The "adding the 32 year old" is not the problem. The guy is terrible! That's the problem. At least we get the nice pick.
Let's see, as it stands the lines would be something like DOC-Crosby-Rust, Bunting-Malkin-Rakell, Puustinen-Hayes-Beauvillier, Lizotte-Eller-Acciari, and the defense would be Karlsson-Pettersson, Letang-Graves, Grzelcyk-St. Ivany. Yeah, I do not see that as any better than last season, at all.
Answer: Nothing.
It doesn’t matter if they pile on prospects if Sully refuses to let some of these younger guys have an attempt to play. Keep bringing in older fringe players to hog up spots. Poulin and all these new Carolina acquired guys simply will never get the chance.