USMNT crashes out of the Copa America, Argentina advances on epic shootout against Ecuador

The United States Men’s National Team found themselves saddled with disappointment under manager Gregg Berhalter yet again, this time crashing out of the Copa America in the group stage following their 1-0 loss to Uruguay. While it wasn’t a shocking result given their play in the tournament, not advancing to the knockout stage can only be viewed as just another failure for the USMNT.

Christian Polanco and Alexis Guerreros breakdown the match between the United States and Uruguay, including the complete failure by not getting out of their group, if Gregg Berhalter’s days are numbered at the helm and the cryptic instagram post by former Liverpool manager Jürgen Klopp that has many thinking about if he could be the next manager for the USMNT.

Also on this episode of The Cooligans, Christian and Alexis talk about the exciting match between Argentina and Ecuador, which saw Lionel Messi’s side advancing in the Copa despite the late heroics by Kevin Rodriguez to force an epic shootout. They then touch on suspensions being handed out to Merih Demiral and Jude Bellingham for their match antics and why Eli Martinez probably won’t be getting a suspension.

0:00 – Start of the show
5:06 – USMNT gets bounced from Copa America
17:15 – Is it hard for Gregg Berhalter to keep his job now?
27:35 – Jürgen Klopp’s cryptic July 4th post
38:11 – Demiral and Bellingham suspensions
52:37 – Emi Martinez’s save antics
56:55 – Messi-Ronaldo performance narrative

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everybody what’s up with Alex is scratching okay uh looking like Tyrone from Chappelle Show I smoke BR Christian ban like damn bro what are you doing out in SRE uh what’s good everybody Welcome to a brand new episode of cooligans it is our second iteration of our Yahoo Sports One football Yahoo connection let’s go uh we’re excited to be back uh it’s a special Friday episode yesterday was Independence Day uh so we didn’t we didn’t independent of working we were independent as you all should have been although I worked in the morning I still had to do the morning show really I thought you were off in the no man damn bro CBS they be out here they’re like nah you got to work they’re like I don’t know you wake up yeah well then get your ass in here bro okay so uh oh I’m sorry to do Sports Stop the answer is no so you got uh yeah you know this people think this is an easy job okay but look look at the the sacrifices that have to be made it is difficult to try to call it a sacrifice with my wife is an oncology nurse I’m like babe uh you don’t know she worked from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. yesterday you got to let her know that something this there’s real heroes out here W while you’re over there doing God knows what I’m in informing America about what happened when 11 millionaires kicked the ball towards another 11 millionaire you’re also misinforming some some Europeans who hate everything you have to say well I’m not misinform I’m informing them they just hate they just hate it coming from my face so uh hello everybody my name is Christian poano I’m Alexis Guerrero uh so uh and and we have in the first episode we didn’t have our our our producer’s mic on we have a we have a temporary producer they made it sound like our jokes weren’t hiting and we were really concerned we were just like oh my God we obviously were used to just having a little little bit of B back and forth having just we need an audience an audience of one an audience of a thousand whatever it is 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even see this ever in in London just uh just you know unless it was uh you know Robbie and uh and expressions expression yeah they’d make him sit in different cars on the train uh so we have a lot to go over today obviously the US Men’s National Team getting bounced out of Copa Mana we’ll talk some some euros we’re recording this right after the Germany Spain uh game where Germany get bumped exactly uh so we’ll cover that a little bit and a couple other things going on in the world of soccer but uh US Men’s National Team Greg bur halter that’s it we we’re gonna decide today does he get to keep his job or not we get to we get to decide that when did this game happen was this after our episode on Monday yes exactly it feels like this game happened six weeks ago CU there’s so there was so much uh first of all I’ve talked about it for four days straight exactly let’s be honest uh they brought you in on Independent talkter but the look what you you have to be serious on morning footy for the most part uh I’ll TI of when you know when you know Charlie Davies can’t speak because he’s laughing too much I did I did say today that uh Nico is a baby seal because he has no hair on his back did you see he has no hair on his back no I didn’t I didn’t he stood up and part of his shirt was I have seen I’m like you don’t even have a little on the bottom of your back your lower back you ain’t even got a little hair do okay I also do not have hair on my back either but on your lower back you got to have a couple little hairs I got I mean you want to look I what I show me a little bit show me don’t show the camera I won’t show the camera I’ll show you mother shut up I want no butt crack no butt crack but I mean you got hair I not hey by the way you’re showing butt CRA Hest I more than lower back is all I’m saying that can’t be much no you got you got said but there’s like there’s like a something with that it shows me it’s an adult this man was like what do you get your back wax the hell what do you do okay all right well look well he’s very aerodynamic in the water got Michael fubs back I love it uh so yeah normally it’s serious but then it’s still me so bur halter uh who’s has full of back hair I’m sure he has plenty when you go bald you get a lot more body hair did you know that not when you go B you you go bald because you have a lot of testosterone so you probably have a lot of body hair it’s not it’s not what I said was it wrong I mean yeah I don’t think you needed to correct me but yes okay this is just a great introduction to everybody at Yahoo um they I’m they like episode two no they’re still the same is this what we bought haven’t changed at all um so uh bural are keeping his job I mean the so the the the anger the vitra got really really high I mean Peak levels of like to the degree of like yo are we at almost like the are the are the standards and the expectations as high as teams that we expect that to win the World Cup the Argentinas like the tox either the toxicity also the the totally valid criticism I I just I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this particularly loud and and people genuinely being like he cannot have this job because it is an embarrassment for him to continue in this role with with what happened in this copaa because it does feel a little bit like would it have been this loud if if uh uh uh if the us advance and get out of uh uh get out of the group cuz even just one more uh uh you know go losing in the next round do you think people have would have been quieter about it I don’t it seems I’m like I I want to address this because we got a lot of comments being of basically people saying like we’re going too easy on bur halter and I don’t necessarily think that’s the case but I do think that the expect I can I can only speak for myself I think the expectations I have for the US Men’s National Team Will are not to the like I’m not necessarily surprised uh that they didn’t get out of the group like it’s it doesn’t trigger this anger in me it was extreme that was an easy group to get out of we should have beat the group we should have beaten Bolivia which we did we should have beaten Panama honestly even with 10 men we should have put up a better fight see that that’s where I don’t necessar we should put up a better fight I’m don’t necessarily saying we blow them out of the water but come on I don’t I don’t oh I mean look should they have had a little bit more possession and created a few more chances with 10 men yes but I don’t think this us men national team is good enough with 10 men to dominate a a Panama but there should have been a better plan when you go down to 10 men to bring on to play to not even have an outlet you know what I mean to to play the style of football that doesn’t even have you trying I think back to the and I know we’re not that Squad but I think back to the invincibles they would go down to 10 men they still weren’t easy to beat I know we’re not that but I think it just I really brought that up simply because there’s a tum fan here um but sorry about that I’m not sorry about that um for me personally I think there was there was enough Talent on that pitch that we should be able to put up a bit more of a fight when you go down to 10 but I think we’re we’re pulling a TRW here I think let me spin this as a positive are you ready go it okay in a way this right here we would both agree that the US Men’s National Team has created a fan base that can for the most part be very splintered and sometimes very toxic correct yes through this tragedy this has become the most unified this Men’s National Team fan base has ever been this in wanting Greg Balter to be sacked this is sort of a you know like we’ve seen uh we’ve seen rap beef we saw what happened with Biggie and Tupac and has La ever been this Kendrick has brought together every all all corners of the United States all parts of the world they were like look let’s all just dance together we’re United in hating this one Canadian man one guy it’s only one guy this child actor you saw did you see uh uh Kendrick’s kids dancing in the living room they out here celebrating they’re like yeah Drake is whack bro this is crazy it’s wild it’s a lot but I think that’s I think this is what balter’s Drake and I don’t know who’s Kendrick in this scenario but we’re all the West Coast right now right is so and this is the thing I’m not I’m not a pro Greg uh guy I’m not I don’t think that’s necessarily the case but the the the vital is so loud to to get rid of him that this is what I’ll say I think we’re we’re in a new era of a a thing of like the culture of the US Men’s National Team and and and US soccer supporters are like that’s it we can’t be bad forever like we have to just either if it’s toxic either if it’s unreasonable we just have to be like that’s it like the the the Ecuador coach uh got fired after like right after the final wh the the the ref wasn’t even done finish he didn’t get all the air into his whistle you’re s and and that’s kind of people want that kind of uh you know they want they basically want the sword hanging uh uh above these managers and be like if you can’t meet the standards then you have to you you have to you know leave that role and that’s that’s you see this as a positive or A negative I see this as a positive and and the the the anger around it it there’s a certain you know for some people it can go too far um but there is a a level of even the people that are you know we did you see the stuff where where Hercules Gomez and Eric Walda I saw some of it the back and forth where you know they’re basically Wala blocked her I mean you want you want some tea okay because Eric ronalda has blocked Hercules Gomez on Twitter but didn’t he start it where Hercules Gomez he did he he sort he was reacting to um the comments that um that that Hercules Gomez was making which you know I I think we’re all valid but he I don’t know what’s going on what what the hell is it with former US men’s why they have really no real reason to dislike each other they just have differing opinions on how the the the national team should be run which is like all right what if you never been to a Thanksgiving people disagreeing while having slight differences in opinion I just I understand the like I’m going to call out Hercules Gomez or whatever which and then the the response from I I I’ll pull up the the threats because they’re they’re pretty wild cuz Hercules Gomez responded by saying like you’ve you’ve wasted every opportunity you’ve ever been given you burned every bridge and it’s like all right bro okay maybe this is the oh he said oh we let it all out the Kendrick and and Drake beef that we really that that the world needed but the fact that the US M said they’re not like us God I start [ __ ] Walk So the fact sebie is DJ Mustard in this whole thing bro yo that video is 13 million views in 14 hours bro it’s no joke no joke it’s a dope video po man taking L’s left and right the Martha Rosen is in it bro the Martha Rosen out here just like all yeah I know I I hung out at Drake’s house uh but no bro I’m I’m rocking my com Ross just getting punched in the face he’s getting none of the joy lot lot going on a lot going on so but but the fact that this um this moment could be a a it is a unifying moment but just the fact of I think the people are tired of the complacency the we see that the the the the players they play in Europe and you know I was I was talking to Andrew before just like the the players they do play in Europe but they’re not getting minutes Matt Turner is not playing right giena not playing uh uh uh Tim WEA not really starting in a lot of games like these the the players on paper are good and they should do well but they’re not getting the the the experience that they need at their clubs and this is where you know the the the complaints about Greg Balter are valid the complaints about the players are valid as well but let’s also be serious about like not all these players are getting tons of minions at their clubs and are not developing at the pace that that we sort of Need for us to be this angry no I I completely disagree I actually I think the Men’s National Team has risen the bar for expectations and with that expectation comes added pressure it comes added pressure to perform the Men’s National Team program should be out of the phase where in abject failure which is what this is not getting out of the group is a complete fail this was not the group of death this was you were the second best team in this group and yet you could not finish second best in this group you failed you failed at a very bad in a very bad way as the host we’re the first ever host to not qual to not get out of the group in this competition’s history history you failed you failed so bad yeah it’s I hate that I hate that statistic because it’s like we yeah we’re The Host this is a South American tournament that we are hosting we hosted it once before and got out of the group I understand that but to make it like this is the first time it’s it’s like those useless baseball stats that people did that the announcers come uh you you what I mean they just like bring up like oh this is the first in 17 games of that he’s that he singled and it’s like all right yeah it is it technically is a stat but who cares but I mean look at the end of the day it’s a it’s a complete failure top to bottom I okay I I don’t disagree there and then if you’re going to have that away should go the days where you get to sort of explain that away away goes the days where people who have jobs in those offices where that is to recruit whether it’s managers or or a you know a system put together the the logistics that create a team or the ability for a team to succeed if they don’t succeed those those people should have their jobs re-evaluated or those people should be asked to leave their posts that’s how these things work you don’t get to be a general lose a war and just come back and be like damn they got us all man going back to my office I’ll see y’all in about what 40 we’ll do lunch that’s not how this works why are all these moms who lost their sons calling me what is your problem you’re blow up first thing we got to do is could you change my extension I can’t I can’t make the calls I normally make yeah I was I was about to call the pizza place and now my phone’s I keep picking up it’s a lady named Stacy you can’t you can’t stay in your job this is I agree there’s there’s no other Nation where you would get knocked out of your group this badly and be able to keep your job why are we different why is everything here so kumay but this doesn’t make bur halter a bad guy though no not at all we like bur halter we’re cool with bur halter but my G you fail yeah this is a uh but but this is a turning point for this program where good or bad it seems like you’re saying it’s bad no no no I’m not saying it’s bad I’m just saying that it’s we’re in the I’m starting to side with the comments man I’m starting to I we’re we’re in this transitionary moment of like the the um people being infuriated at this mediocrity that’s all cuz that really hasn’t always been the case and this is the thing they they expect more they want more because but this is the problem with bur halter is that he hasn’t been a complete failure he he has filled the trophy cabinet with trophies when it comes to conaf he is doing what he was hired to do so you can’t it can’t just be he is complete trash when it’s like we’re are we are winning if you don’t respect Nation League you don’t respect Gold Cup whatever sure then say that yeah but I I think I think you you’ve lowered the bar too far we won the bar I’m not I’m saying that this is where the bar has risen but the his AG the agenda for the Men’s National Team should not be to beat Mexico consistently especially during Mexico most historically bad R it should be above that getting out of the group to me was bare minimum even I honestly think he would have he should have been they should have been calls for him to be fired or at least move on from him as a manager had we lost in the first round if we would have qualified out of the group and for The Knockout stages and still lost in the first round I don’t care if it was Colombia I don’t care if it was Brazil I think that’s still the standard we have the World Cup is about to be in this country in 2026 we can’t go into it being like hey it’s not bad we got out the group I I agree with that and I think that this is this if he if the US move further into this tournament or they get out of the group I think we are in the same exact place of of quote unquote complacency or whatever it is that you would call it I think this result is the thing that is going to force some sort of change because now people are not just saying like get rid of Greg BT saying get rid of Matt Crocker uh the sporting director gever said we’re gonna re-evaluate and we’re going to look reassess the situ what do you I watched it I I assessed the situation by watching I’m just saying the G are the days of like not many people paying attention to soccer you see you see Outlets like bar stool being like get rid of Greg and it’s like all right you you all spell it y spell bar alter right now dare you I dare you so that’s the kind of thing where now what’s the dude from ESPN that looks like a pirate not McAfee no he got long hair and a beard I mean you’re talking about a pirate pirate yeah no he looks like Pirates of the Caribbean kind of pirate like an extra at ESPN I think it’s called like the right stuff he has to show not Nick right yes Nick Wright is not on ESPN anymore he’s on Fox well he did a he did a segment of he doesn’t have long hair anymore either oh does he yeah he does have long hair he has like shoulder length hair he used to be he would shave his head and everybody thought he was bald and then he let his hair grow and people were like yo why you hiding this yeah like right like I just think his face is has odd proportion so I don’t think it’s one of those things like do you grow beard and hair at the same time you you’ll figure it out if my if my big old fat head found a look you’ll get there what is it Nick right Nick right Nick right you’ll get there he does a show called like the right stuff or something where it’s just him talking to camera it looks like a uh a a podcast but it’s like a corner of a of a studio room they just let him sit in and he’s complaining about I’m like you you don’t know half of these players names but even you’re upset you know and I get it like we’re at the point where people are paying attention a way they never have my wife’s cousins are texting me like well this this is good enough and I’m like are you what are you talking about I’m like I’m watching the USA game I’m like I thought you were talking about me in my marriage through your that’s normally you could literally scroll the rest of that text right there’s soccer’s never been mentioned once other than degrading me for being a part of it you and now all of a sudden you’re like USA team’s not good enough man we’re not playing centrally I’m like what the hell’s going on where did you learn this are you trolling me man whoever stole my cousin’s my wife’s cousin’s phone give it back to it’s like those Tik Tok videos of like wives uh uh recording their husbands watching like the euros and being and rep and they repeating stff they’re like oh what you know uh Saka should be playing uh left back and he’s like he’s like oh babe yeah how do you then one guy’s like looking at his wife he’s like notice the phone recording he’s like yeah all right it’s like one where you’re like yo you cheating on me right who who’s telling you this stuff right that’s like the meme of like when my wife’s gay friend and it says like oh we should be it should be a 4-33 with this in the back and the like oh yes uh I mean look this is also one of those moments uh we’re looking at at Greg Balter this to me is where I lost all confidence in greal and this was a moment this is right in the in the 65th minute where I’m I’m watching it and on camera and we see actually this I think this is the the look my wife gave me on our honeymoon this one she said how anyway uh but Greg BR In This Moment oh I ordered a sandwich that’s you that’s what I’m talking about you tell your Deli guy cut it this much don’t cut the end off you know I like that anyway uh great when this moment happened this is when Bolivia scored uh against Panama so it was 1-1 the US uh In This Moment had uh moved on even W with with the with with the result against Uruguay and but when Greg Brar is is alerting them alerting hey we’re through we’re through he in the postmatch comments and I uh he basically was saying I I believe Henry Bushell shout out to Henry Bushnell of Yahoo sports uh who had asked him I think before the game uh about if you are going to um depending on the other result given that it’s happening at the same time are you going to like inform the players he kind of did the like I I I’m paraphrasing but it’s like oh we’re just sort of just focusing on the game we’re going to take any information we need and blah blah blah uh and there was something in this moment and we’re and we’re looking at it now of Greg BR halter holding up the 1-1 and you can see the urgency in his face but it there’s a little bit of fear as well because it’s not necessary he in the postmatch comments he was basically saying like oh I was just informing my players of of what was going on keeping them he says it there it says when Bolivia equalized I was getting that information out that we want to be smart solid that Panama is tied in the game which is this is the thing this information is not helpful this is what your friend says to get out of also being arrested you know what I mean no no no when when I threw that bag of uh drugs I was simply getting it away from me because I had it got nothing to do with me I was not interested in this I said here shrub hold this I was not familiar with these drug I didn’t know how they got I don’t know they were drugs cuz you said drugs uh I was actually on my way to church to help children so if this is all over with I those kids must be waiting for me so this is a there was a i we’re looking at just the still but if you watch the moment in itself there’s a a it’s not a confident yo it’s one one we got this let’s go getto a one1 he pull back a little bit can I tell you something that might upset you even more sure 60 not 30 seconds after this moment you know what happens a goal uru scores scores yeah so after he alerts them like hey everything’s fine we’re good no reason to even try anymore baby this is H and the goal happens immediately and then that’s a whole other controversy because was it was it onside was it offside Copa America uh and I and and shout out to uh baby seal Nico uh who who was talking about uh just the refereeing situation and and and just in South America because copaa we’re watching the euros and copaa at the same time and the referee it is it’s unbelievable like how not only VAR decisions taking a long time not only the the lines are just all over the place W crooked they’re comp they’re completely crooked yeah they are not in line like you look at the you look at the 18 yard box that line and then you and you compare it to the offside line that they place and it is not it is not the same line no they’re like those optical illusions that you show you in school where like the lines don’t connect you’re like it’s very confusing it’s a goddamn spirograph damn tell us what you see bro here’s what I’ll say I don’t care about that goal being offside yelling about the ref doesn’t change the fact that we didn’t go out to win when we needed a win if that goal doesn’t count who cares that we we draw nil nil we still don’t go through right right I mean look because you can go back it’s a waste of time focus on the fact that we didn’t we have one shot on Target in the first half focus on that yeah look look look I complet expected us to lose against Uruguay I did not expect a win it would have been a miracle I was hopeful they already qualified man and that’s the another thing like why you start the 18 why you start the 18 damn BSA how much you hate America bro now we confirmed it bro y you wasn’t even there dog because wasn’t it before Greg was hired wasn’t bsa’s didn’t his name come up in like as as a candidate then Ernie Stewart said you have to speak English you to speak English and you and and then that had to be translated to B Elsa he like hit him buta I mean BSA barely even speaks you know what I mean so did you know they released information that he was pretty close to being hired so much so that he requested Landon Donovan to be a part of his management team get out of here true story wow they just released that information that’s incredible damn that would have been wild Landon daman’s like my man speaks fluent Spanish bro he’s like y I would have been there with a forehead of hair now okay would been crushing it um yeah look it just goes back to the game against Panama they should have won that game and it is what it is um as far as where we are now with uh with Greg I mean I’ve there there’s rumors that he’s going to be losing uh losing his job I don’t know there’s no way to substantiate the rumors anymore yeah I don’t know uh it’s it’s sort of hard to tell I haven’t heard from any of our sources our deep stay sources um but this it it does feel like if it is going to happen it should happen very soon and now now the the name that is coming up because on on Independence Day oh guess who uh decided to uh uh post on Instagram and Jurgen klopp and he writes uh it’s the perfect day to think about my trips with Liverpool to the states we’ve had a great time and the US fans are electric happy 4th of July damn bro this is this is this not you know how you you sub tweet but this is like a sub application you know what I mean sub apply this isn’t flirting this is heavy petting this is high this is you know what this is this like you tell your boy you’re having problems with your girl and then he texts your girl yo I know things are weird right now if you need someone to talk to I got this new bottle of wine you love so this is a a subtle move this wild disrespectful uh I mean but I’m here for it bro who is it disrespecting maybe Greg bro leave you toxic man you with cl look the German men we got it going on okay we we’re not in the Euros anymore you find me someone else with a good hug and that many teeth I dare you I got extras just in case I lose some we’re good it just one pops out the road just fills in like a Pez dispenser imagine J CL is in this studio one day and be like hey I remember what you barely remember everything about your time in America so so um so now the conversations are not only about uh uh klopp possibly being the Men’s National Team coach um the the number that I keep hearing for klopp is 20 million a year which Greg Balter makes I think 1.5 one I thought it was two I think were bonuses and stuff like or like incentives which he has not met he has not met the incentives well what about like I’m sure klopp could get like sponsorships and Endor like we got messy here you know like when Pop a part of the Apple Plusle TV all right you working with Pepsi now cl cl you drink nothing but Pepsi bro and also clogs baby okay or Crocs I should say clock rocks clocks that’s what we call them clock Clarks CLS clocks with a K anyway dude we’re fine we’re working on it we’ll get spitball we’ll figure out the the the deals it’s a brainstorm there are no bad ideas there’s only the one only bad idea is the one you don’t say the contract is either going to be uh 200 Pages or or a half of one yeah we’re figuring it out as we go along but the name um so our homie Tim Howard how about this Jurgen Club US Men’s National Team head coach brought to you by B MGM I think it’s not we can fit it on a business card promise you the font will be small yeah but it will work it’ll fit on there okay it’ll have a little flap out and the QR code and you get $5 in your account for joining okay this and this business card becomes origami all right you can use it for so much there so much it’s a it’s a great centerpiece for your death I’m just saying but Tim Howard uh is getting invol getting in as well he he tweets out if I was in charge of US soccer I would fly to Spain and pay Jurgen klopp a visit uh I which which sounds a little bit like uh you know what’s uh yeah what’s this dude from um Liam n Liam n that’s the that’s the image I have of him on the phone and then he he continues to say I believe I could convince him to take the US MNC job Greg Balter will get the blame for this Copa Medica but much of the fault is with the players um here’s the thing I get if I was in charge of user I I almost felt like he threw that in after the fact I honestly think he wanted a tweet I will fly to Spain and convince Jurgen K to take this job I honestly believe that Tim Howard feels he can do this which is uh what connection does Tim Howard have to Jurgen klopp I don’t know do you know no I don’t either yeah I maybe they know each other to in some maybe they work together on something he wasn’t in Bundesliga uh no I mean uh was he played for Everton Jurgen klopp is Liverpool this is and I’m not saying he’s not capable but I just no know he very well could be I mean Tim is connected okay I I was just working with him at the Premier League FanFest who doesn’t know Tim Howard exactly so uh it’s not you know impossible there there’s something to um yeah again we’re seeing former US Hercules Gomez says something similar um but former US Men’s National Team players this is this also a thing we’ve not really seen like Greg Balter still has the job Tim Howard is like for forget him yo I know a German dude let me go talk to him which is it’s something that says I I I don’t know if it’s a like uh trying to uh shoehorn crowbar your sort of Self in in the conversation or even Oh you mean like to make yourself a little bit more relevant in the in the conversation either that um or or maybe he has genuine because to me it’s like Tim could also text Matt Crocker be like yo you want me to let you know pay a visit I see where your point is like that was a little bit of a fan tweet yeah from from a guy who’s actually connected to the situation which so I don’t know how serious he sort of is about the I mean cuz it seems sort of like a joke this is like when a cameraman is filming somebody get beat up and they’re like stop and you’re like put the phone down and help you a got to be tweeting right now my G get out there if s can make it happen let her make it happen that’ be toe in fact you know what if I was in charge of US soccer I would fly to nor New Jersey and get shacked okay now I don’t know if he’d be better than Greg B Hunter but it’s shacked um so look this is sort of where we are with uh with this I don’t know uh if any news will will come out I’ll let me let me let me ask you a question before we move on do you think there’s any manager in the world any manager doesn’t matter the price the cost the gender the anything any manager in this world that could come to the US Men’s National Team take charge now right now today and by the time 2026 World Cup comes have this team at the point where they could win that World Cup any manager pep maybe think do you think he could get this team to win the world cup win the World Cup I mean that’s such a bll there’s no there’s no manager realistically no no no no no so then when we’re hiring someone we’re simply looking for someone who’s better than Greg right right okay now I’m I’m sure there’s someone who’s better than Greg what I think with this realistic thing we can win in this world cup is to get people in America way more interested in the sport of soccer use the World Cup balance maximize it as much as possible and that’s someone who can come here and get on like those TV shows get on podcasts like cooligans and other more influ very high profile super high profile get on shows get on get in that social media sphere get in places where it builds the profile of the program to the point where casual fans become more committed and non-casual fans at least start to slide into that casual fan territory which we’re already seeing by the the vitro that’s being spit at Greg Balter I think you have to find someone who not only can be a little bit better than Greg can get this team in a much better way more spirited so at least we were backing them saying well they gave it their all but also has the marketing capability to get this country to care a lot more about this Sport and klopp you feel is somebody that can do that maybe maybe I think he’s a great personality but if you’re not as interested in him as they were in England especially in Liverpool maybe you don’t see so much of that Personality yeah yeah maybe he could be the right guy I think he’s the right guy for what’s happening on the pitch but for this other part I can’t I can’t say for a fact 100% Greg is not the most marketable dude either better than what we have now marketable wise and I love Greg yeah yeah but he’s not getting on those other shows he’s just wearing cool sneakers the sneakers he’s getting on complex sneakers the the sneakers is the attempt to uh uh at like relatability like that’s why like people like Jose Mourinho that guy is not he’s gonna get on the he’s gonna get on headlines but he’s not the most marketable guy just just Mourinho on hot ones right not even G when when when does the spice arrive yeah Sean’s mouth is spin fire that’s what I’m talking about bro who which which coach can go on chicken shop date there we go and really Riz up a million that’s what we need we need a Riz God out here who also knows how to run an efficient 4321 or 4312 so we shall see uh look I I I think in in I my guess is by next week we get some confirmation whether he’s gone or he’s staying cuz that we it needs to be resolved soon it can’t be this they can’t be silence around this cuz uh this is sort of where we are with this with this program and if there’s an option like if because klopp klopp was like oh I’m done for a year I’m not I’m GNA take a break and if if we can you know you know seduce him to leave to leave his family who’s probably like please dad do not take another job America America’s calling honey so remember how much fun we had on those Liverpool trips the American fans are electric you remember boie wyyy honey so we’ll uh we’ll see I think if that if look if if that’s even a possibility then you have to move on from from Greg because main sponsors of this US soccer is a Volkswagen Volkswagen that’s a German company is it all right H okay well the this is this is just we’re in the conference room of US soccer we’re just figuring things out hey buddy WR it on the white board you know what I mean we’ll get there all right we got to go over uh the euros and and a bunch of other news in cop America so uh let’s let’s get to it all right let’s get started with the Euros um let’s see where we are right now we are again we were recording this uh during the Portugal France match that is currently nil nil um and and like we said Spain uh defeated Germany 2 to one lot of controversy there uh was it handball was not a handball pedri apparently is out for the rest of the tournament after a wild Challenge from Tony Cruz who who is now officially out of the sport yeah yeah he retired himself and pedri season so far so hopefully he’s not too uh too too serious but uh it was an early Challenge from Tony Cruz where he went across uh pedre’s body and caught him in the thigh knee it looked like he sort of hyper extended his knee yeah it looks they said it’s a knee spring yeah so it didn’t look too too terrible but definitely it sounds like he’s not going to be available for the rest of the tournament also shouts to cuno ziris for beating ziris right now obviously very heated rivalry that we’re what league is that I’m assuming it’s Albania a Liga we we’re on one football and we’re seeing a couple new leagues that we’re not super familiar with go to table table okay let’s see what what league are we looking at uh if any of these names sound familiar banga bang uhis okay we’re learn we’re here to learn yeah I feel like we’re uh we’re naming you know we’re reading the the the uh the what is it the uh the classroom names yeah yeah not not the sketch I feel like we’re doing this somewhere in the Eastern block anyway anyway so uh just a couple things with the with the Euros attendance the word I was it’s okay uh or roll call or whatever you call roll call um the okay so where we are with uh um so right now um so Jude Bellingham I want to talk about some of these suspensions because Jude Bellingham um we we spoke about it I think briefly on the last show where he uh in the game against Slovakia he did the after his goal he went you know grab you he did the gesture at his large coonis the coonis but the weird part is is he licked his fingers before doing it I I thought he smelled his fingers before doing it which is also that doesn’t make it better I don’t know what’s going on out in England I don’t culturally I I don’t know if he picked this up in Spain what you learning at Real Madrid bro okay I don’t just I don’t like the influence of some of these uh you know uh Ruffians hosu teaching you bro I’m a little bit concerned you were a good English boy when you left remember how sweet he was when we met him that’s right we met him in Dortmund so sweet came up to us said hello to us cuz he saw we were just standing there and now he’s out here talking about Bas low key is’s giving me young young zaton Vibes interesting okay all right they said who wrote the story who’s writing this script and he said I do wow he’s been playing herob ball this entire time refuses to pass to Phil foden he’s out here saying I’m the I’m the straw that stirs the drink damn I drink your milkshake oh man bring back the classics he’s saying everything but yeah he did the he look at me huh I got big balls he look at these balls over heretic I need bigger shorts I don’t even know I’m walking straight okay actually hurts to do these bicycle kicks okay remember back remember like 10 years ago when people were sitting on those inflatable workout balls that’s what I look like just standing still I got I got two of them crazy I got to go to a doctor the I think they might be inflamed I might have a slight infection to be honest but uh the the news about his suspension and this is the the details we’re looking at the tweet from fabito Romano it says UEFA confirmed Jude Bellingham has been given a suspended one match ban after his celebration bellingham’s suspension is valid for a year so he will be able to play against Switzerland he’s also been fined uh €30,000 so basically you’re you’re suspended yeah but whenever you want to be suspended right this is like if you were told like if a judge told you like hey you have to you have to spend a weekend in jail you get to pick the weekend You’ be like babe it’s your mother’s birthday but I don’t know what’s going on me this is the only time that works for all of us yeah yeah the judge is really adamant about this weekend it’s crazy it’s very look at this point don’t even suspend him at all this is such a wild uh maybe F I get the fine but he he he went out he got ahead of it and said that he wasn’t gesturing to the Slovakian bench it was like his friends it was like his friend and when I talk to my friend I’m just doing my my ball grab to my friends you know I could have got in a lot of trouble in high school me and my friends used to do this wa okay you got to say for the audio listeners okay I’m just like put both of my hands up imagine I’m like holding something and we would wave it towards our friend’s crotch right and that was imagine a woman with a very large head giving you and all we would do is like oh we would surround someone and be doing this you’re helping her out a very large her neck her neck her neck must hurt first of all how big her head is you need to support cuz she has a normalized body yeah yeah the body is regular is just in just enormous to is very big so it would just get bigger and bigger right our teachers had no idea what we were doing had they known had they known we would have gotten $30,000 0,000 so you got a year to do detention whenever you’re ready you pick the day and three bucks you’re not allowed to buy Snapple lunch I’m going to take the suspension during SATs I want to go to school at the best time um so it was kind of we also used to yell and no one spoke Spanish hey bro that’s G to be somebody make that into a regone Beat regone song that’s going to be great anyway um so Jude Bellingham is uh so we know the details he’s only going to be suspend he’s going to be suspended within the one year he has to take uh his uh his sentence whenever he feels like it um but then the other one for toia um deir H Mero de who scored the two goals uh right he’s he plays in Saudi yes he people didn’t even want him on the team but then he scores a brace to advance turkey and um and he is going to be suspended for two games uh in what’s their upcoming game against the Netherlands so he’s going to miss that one even if they win he’ll miss the one after that so odds are he’ll only be back for the final if they get to it exactly and and and look obviously which looks unlikely for to like an incredible uh story for them to even get this far and and and to win the game um and by the way we’re we apologize if this image is offending any yeah so I mean it’s been tweeted out but B basically he’s he is um he is holding a a symbol that seems to be some kind of I remember like wrestling nerds doing this this was nwl that was NW is that what yeah yeah when uh is that when like Hulk Hogan was a bad boy he was a villain yeah turns out it was a bad boy they that they would go sweet they would go sweet remember bro you got you missed out on the I certain did wrestling days yeah I remember my friends who uh didn’t have dates on Fridays they would do this bro okay just so sometimes it works out just say my name why are you being all vague sorry they would do this they make what sound no no what’s the sound yeah you go sometimes both if I was trying to have a good time you know okay okay light a candle by myself in my apartment um so the so so basically I I I don’t know the context of it and forgive us if we’re not fully aware I’m not 100% involved in what’s happening but I’ve looked this up because obviously we have to talk about on the morning show so they asked me not to make stuff up when it comes to stuff like this oh I know really just you’re really putting up a lot of bumpers uh in this bowling alley uh but I think okay so this is a symbol that has been meant like just turkey for a long time it’s just the thing Turkish people used to do a very long time ago a very long time ago uh but it’s been co-opted by a farri group within turkey so there was some question as to whether he was just being very proud to be Turkish or very proud to be 100% Turkish you know what I’m saying right cuz he hit with the double the double the double when you hit them with the double that means like you ain’t ashamed no at all and if he knew that this was something that could be this well here’s the other thing there’s also other photos of you know when you’re making hand puppets with a shadow on a wall uh you know the one you do for a doggy exactly he did that which is another one of the symbols that are associated with this group called the gray wolves right which by the way what a what a Warriors you know what a what a weird 70s gang name for for a far rightwing group but the they espouse things that are not respectful to others so for him to say that uh is considered a political stance it’s also considered a disrespectful stance so it’s right that he was you know uh suspended yeah yeah well not not I’m not yeah definitely we’re not arguing that he shouldn’t be suspended it’s just like we don’t the the the the gentleness that they sort of had with Bellingham versus this it’s like they’re they’re probably not really comparable near but when it comes to the uh just the just having that that Authority and if you can’t suspend somebody for doing something that they like it just they they’re taking it very easy on Bellingham which which in in light of this seems very odd that’s all that’s I think it’s not necessarily hypocrisy but it is like they should in my opinion they should just both be suspended to to set a sort of standard of like how players should carry themselves oh I couldn’t have disagree more you don’t think so no one was lwd in a sexual way could be misconstrued as that this is disrespectful to large swats of people people in the audience okay this is disrespectful to the viewers of the game this is disrespectful to people in his own country uh this no I I couldn’t disag you don’t think B Bellingham should be been suspended at all no okay if you I get like a fine all right you did something that I agree that he probably shouldn’t have be suspended I’m but I’m saying like if you’re going to suspend one for and again not the same exact crime so to speak but it’s just like but if someone does like the wanking motion and another guy hails Hitler you can’t be like all right both of you get they’re very different they are very different but they should both be suspended that’s all I’m saying yeah but the one what Bellingham did you couldn’t prove that he was talking about balls you know what I mean right right right you know what I’m saying it’s just you could kind be like all right I know what you did and also that was like video from the stands yeah yeah that caught him this is this dude did this in 4k with both hands the two the both hands is really uh look it it it’s a thing where look I don’t know where sort of he stands uh politically guess but but but all I’m saying is if but if he does this knowing that this is the this is what it means or what again because I’m I’m coming from it like I don’t know anything complely naive to this but if he knows that this is something that is even mildly like like you know risque why do this that’s that’s kind of that that’s the thing that sort of makes no sense even even if he’s a straight up fascist it’s like yo you just scored two goals to help your country move on in this tournament why even consider doing this this is why be dumb enough exactly that’s that’s kind of the the point I’m I mean if you’re dumb enough to believe that already you’re kind of already on track to do something this stupid I think yeah I don’t know so uh the other thing was when it comes to uh uh suspension we we should talk about Copa America because the the Argentina Ecuador uh game was of like every Copa Meda game has been like wild um but that that game went into penalties Messi missed his penalty and I The Narrative again people are like um he was bad in this game to he was not great but he does he doesn’t even look like he’s healthy right that that’s like my uh I think he’s the best player in the world I think he’s the greatest player of all time I too would start him now that I’ve said that he is such a liability off the ball sure that if the rest of the team is not fully fit full of energy well rested suddenly you’re like yo why we always got to defend with 10 and you could see a team like eal which came like all right we’re all going to drink a can of energy drink right at the half before the game we’re going to run around circles around these guys when we went to Argentina Chile I had told you this in the stand I said for I’ve never seen Argentina in person but when you see them in person and you’re watching every single player it is Messi and 10 and goo contes yeah the uh and they were and that’s their that’s their task right is like yo run around get the ball back and and uh Stu Holden um on the on the fox broadcast mentioned this as well he was just like look at look at them he he was talking about Argentina and how like they’re they fight for the ball every single opportunity when when when they do not have it so um when you have a a player like Messi who is obviously not going to defend like crazy um you that this is the kind of style you need to play but I like I like the fact that argena plays with a certain velocity and a certain you know intent and intense energy but that it begats in order to succeed it bats like it needs a certain amount of precision yeah and if you don’t have that if you’re missing that suddenly a guy like lonel Messi looks like a liability off the ball yeah you you take that you take that every game because you want to have him on the ball you want this guy to get be an outlet for a pass because you know he’s going to give you a moment of magic even if he gives you three or four moments of magic a game that’s still more than enough reason to have him out there it’s just it highlights how difficult of a role it is for everyone else on Argentina when he’s also playing badly so the um the main thing that I wanted to get to is obviously uh D.A Martinez who is uh just unbelievable and I I’ve never really seen a goalkeeper where I I favor the goalkeeper more than the kicker oh absolutely it’s unbelievable where like how does he know where the ball is going to seem seeming go remember the uh the um the Goa Meda where uh there was no one in the stands it was Co so you could hear them and he was he got Yeti’s head he’s like he was remember when he was like like I don’t even know there’s no easy translation for this but like bro you’re gon to you’re goingon to you’re going to F this up you’re going to [ __ ] yourself basically I know you it’s like yo I know everything about you I already know what you’re going to do before you know what you’re going to do he has a way of getting in people’s heads I’ve never seen before and I know people get frustrated in particular English people get frustrated with his Antics which is like do you just how much fun do you hate like give me a list of all the fun things you hate because this is fun this is awesome to see I agree I hate when it’s happening to my team oh without out yeah but it’s like this is this is taking the Mind Games for a goalkeeper and dialing it up to a 100 and saying like watch watch how effective this can be and they and they changed the rules because of him finds ways to do right cuz they you know after the World Cup um they you basically the the goalkeeper going up to the kick uh the penalty Taker and like you know getting really close to his face touching the ball uh doing whatever like just trying to get in his head like they had they changed the rule they make said the goalkeeper has to stay on his line while the preparation of the penalty is is happening you got [Laughter] tooo that’s the rule that’s the rule uh it’s written like that in ifab okay there’s a lot of don’t make me turn this car around there’s a lot of that energy in the rule um but the it is interesting because Dil does seem to get like he he after the second penalty stop my man just started twerking uh right there right on the pitch I mean this is getting in the next person’s head he’s very smart it is but and they were in Houston All I hold on that’s the twerk that’s like that’s a it’s fair to twerk you in to you in hwn yes that’s right Beyonce was like spin that ass in a circle they were like I Debo a stallion de the stallion wear the t-shirts yes I will buy it um so that’s the thing it’s like it it there’s no consistency because is is twerking as bad as the the the the ball gesture is that like I I’m not trying to be concern I’m I’m fine with all of it in general you do sound you you’re kind of talking this episode like a Fox News lower third you know you’re not saying it but you’re asking the question that makes Boomers confused should I be upset is New York a migrant hell home I guess it is I didn’t stick around to watch the segment bro I majored in Fox News low bro okay I’m here for the clicks yo for real I I think this but I’m what the point I’m making is that this was a loud talking point because as soon as obviously English people are like why are you pointing out singling why are you singling out Jude bingh look at what martinz is doing or whatever and I’m just trying to see if there’s if that a a valid argument when it comes to how we deal with who gets suspended and why and stuff like that that’s all you know how British people will make a statement and then follow it up with a sentence that puts it on you you know what I’m talking about they’ll say like uh you know well they’ll be there like oh this was this is this is run its course it’s obnoxious it really is isn’t it and you’re like you you’re the one saying it I agree with me got nothing to do with me one talking I don’t know why you got to put it on me so this what look this is a thing where uh D Martinez is like even after Messi missed that first penalty uh which again you just it’s a it’s a The Narrative also was like oh uh I I Chad ooo getting in on this he said um oh Messi misses his penalty I wonder if there’s going to be think pieces just like they were on Ronaldo and it’s like so again the the conversation can never they can’t who handles Chad Ultra SLE social media I show speed why are you doing this cuz it’s like bro Ronaldo was taking every free kick skying them over the damn Stadium he moved vtina off the ball and then sent it into row eight so this is why you write think pieces about that cuz this man will not let go no that you have Bruno Fernandez you have uh um uh what is it uh Bernardo Silva bro amazing penal uh uh free kick takers and Ronaldo’s like no man I’m going to stand here like the statue that I am and and and sky this I’m going to breathe up into the heavens and watch this and he misses the penalty and and then he’s crying but it’s like yo the tear are not they don’t feel as as genuine or I don’t have as much sympathy It’s like because you it looks like you’re actively hurting the team by being so selfish Ronaldo’s the type of guy that when he’s older is going to be like yo why is this mirror making me look bad how dare you know it’s just never the mirror yeah yeah he’s crying because the ball didn’t do what he told he’s telling he’s telling Georgia like hey get all all the get rid all the mirrors we need new mirrors in here we need all new mirrors we’re going to get Beautiful People mirrors cuz you went out and bought ugly people mirrors and this is a you made this mistake I’m not mad at you it’s cuz you’re an ugly person right know I mean the truth is out now you’re an ugly person you really are are you why are you talking like a British person um anyway this is um yeah that that’s why they people have a lot to say because it is absurd the the comparison is not uh is not real because mess but there’s something fun about crumbling the ego of someone who has such an a granded ego right right right this isn’t fun with Messi Messi never walked around never peacocks around you know exactly exactly so this is uh something where uh yeah look the as far as just even the result for Argentina Ecuador probably should have won this game and Valencia said this I said this on the show if they so Goa Meda if you don’t know 90 minutes straight depends uh if there was extra time Ecuador wins this game I agree I I it’s also it is kind of wild that I mean you have to keep Messi in the game because you want him to take a penalty but Messi did not look just up for playing 90 minutes of this and and you just you can’t even substitute him because he was doubtful I he probably shouldn’t have started yeah it’s like it’s too um he’s too important to not just um not just the like what happens on the actual pitch but just like the you know ticket sale you know so you everything he’s just marketability and how many people are going to be watching the game so you can’t even sit him and there’s a little bit of me it’s just like man are we just running this dude ragged like he just like you you know I could he could he like a show pony that’s getting up there we just like get back out there okay we booked the room for three nights kid you got to get back out there so uh yeah so so but but congrats Argentina for for moving on but ecor I know uh you know we have a lot of Ecuador looking a little little suspect though little susceptible I don’t think they can win this tournament who do you got as your favorite Colombia see I said who I I mean both are I think are both valid I mean Colombia’s playing but who’s there venea Canada colia has uh Panama no who do they have it might be Panama it might be pan it is Panama yeah yeah um but I I think Colombia can do that to me they look like the best team uh in this tournament so um okay all right let’s let’s wrap up there uh everybody thank you again for tuning in make sure uh that you sub hit the Subscribe button whether you are listening to this podcast whether you’re watching on YouTube uh and and yeah as always shout out to Yahoo Sports One football Yahoo we out here uh we’ll be back on Monday Alexis will be on uh be away yeah I’ll be away uh but you’re going to have some great uh special guest exactly some co-hosts uh we got a lot happening so uh uh yeah definitely stick with us we’ll be back on Monday with a brand new episode thank you again for tuning in uh we appreciate y’all we’ll see you on Monday everybody peace love you guys for