Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell discuss the disaster that’s become Ryan Garcia’s life, talk the back and forth on social media between Ilia Topuria and Max Holloway and preview the boxing bout between Nate Diaz and Jorge Masvidal on this free Morning Kombat Friday.
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we got a decent show for you today I’m sure I mean Ryan Garcia wow yep yep we got that okay it is a Last Man Standing weekend mazal Diaz part two and also a few other headlines that’s the LT to the BC right here uh Luke how about our new intro brought to you by Jake bot Amsterdam you played it pretty great I didn’t I didn’t tease it I just wanted to play it for everyone we finally got a new intro uh Jake Von Amsterdam put it together it only took him seven and a half years but here we are we have a there elements in the new intro of our London trip from the still yet unfinished uh documentary number seven from now like two years ago at this point and the best part is folks don’t realize God has it been two years no not quite year and a half but it’s been so long lukee that it you know emotionally feels a lot like the peak of MK it was all downhill after that but uh he finally got it done and there’s obviously other pieces we’re going to be working on over time to finally like catch things up but BC how are you all the way there in sunny California how you doing my friend I’m doing well thank you so much um you know I love La it’s my favorite city in the world I’m in Anaheim so close enough so I’m trying to focus on that the great weather and really the great people Luke I don’t necessarily mean Nate and Jorge I don’t think they like me so much these days but great people putting on this fantastic v card this weekend it is going to be an interesting pay-per-view whether you care or not whether you in it for the Diaz mozol angle or or the real pro boxing angle of some of the other fights it’s going to be interesting and Luke this a this is a star studed I’m I’m blessed to be a hashtag bless to be on this announce team seriously they’ put together an absolute Allstar cast so from that standpoint very excited to see how the show goes down just tomorrow night here in anah did they announce the crew yet yes they did so moral ralo Shawn Porter and sha Ali on the on the actual call of the fight uh ag2 Amanda G from CBS Sports and Bellator Fame and Josh Thompson on the desk we’re gonna have influencer Mike majack from the Logan Paul podcast there uh sibl skols and myself will be the ringside reporters uh this is uh this is this is pretty cool L okay I’m gonna be part of the desk as well dur during times of the broadcast um we’ll see what happens Luke I mean you know how who is interviewing the fighters when they win that will be me okay man if Nate wins dude is he even serious question if Nate wins because if Jorge wins he’ll give you an interview he might be annoyed but he’ll do it you know but I feel like if Nate is if the is the winner he’s not gonna talk to you right at this point I really can only expect uh negativity I mean we’ve done six press conferences Luke and you could say you know who scheduled that is that six too many but really what has come out of a bunch of these press conference from Nate you know smoking The Joint in New York to twice walking off in the middle there was the brawl in Anaheim a month ago um you know they’re done and I think Jorge has carried a large part of this promotion himself has done the interviews talked the trash Nate hasn’t necessarily fully reciprocated but at Wednesday’s final press conference not sure if he caught it here Luke uh neither guy was willing to talk to me face off against one another uh the the mood was hey let’s freaking fight already so that’s what we’re going to do tomorrow night if was the mood let’s fight already or was the mood neither of us want to be here because I got to be honest I mean we’ll talk about this in a minute but I got that in what percentage of that question was none of us want to answer BC’s therapy couch questions anymore you know I’m just doing my job Luke right you know what I’m saying all right so thank you for joining us everyone we really appreciate it uh let’s do this this is our social you can follow us everywhere on social BC LT MK the whole nine yards on every place you can get anything that matters we’re out there we’re pumping it up uh merch BC’s got his hat on right live 10 you can still go ahead and get that going it’s uh it’s a thing that’s available for you right there and of course I didn’t put this up before but I’m LT that’s Brian Campbell here we are yeah sorry my shot looks a free MK Friday a self-produced show where no one gets paid go ahead self-produced by me too I didn’t even bring my ring light I’m I’m I’m barely we got McDonald’s Wi-Fi I’m barely barely pulling it together here but Luke so happy you said ABC let’s bang hash eow and I was like all right let’s do it yeah all right so on on this abbreviated MK on a post uh July 4th kind of Friday it kind of weird oh yeah what’ you do for the fireworks Luke did you did you Pro America so you have to find a yeah you have to find a place in DC to go watch the fireworks and like the biggest one is the National Mall but it’s a nightmare getting in and getting out I mean I could walk it but like it’s still just a lot to deal with so we didn’t want to do that we wanted to see if we can get a place what I’ve done in years past actually is get on the steps of the Supreme Court which is behind the Capal and it’s kind of elevated and you can see everything from there you can go to the Lincoln Memorial but again you got to kind of camp out for hours and hours yeah it rained at five o’clock here yesterday and then they dude it was like 95 with 100% humidity like [ __ ] gross so Tuki ended up falling asleep when we were out like getting lunch uh or you know early dinner so she fell asleep so we went home and then I just went and bought a bunch of um cuz we drove by to Supreme Court they had blocked it off you couldn’t get on the steps anymore so we were like okay and then she fell asleep so I just went down like down the road and then bought a bunch of fireworks they were [ __ ] awesome they were great and they were like 50% off show in your in your workout yard you were like yeah well in the street in the street but yeah yeah we did that bit that so American that I love that I love that idea it was my dog’s 911 it’s every dog’s 911 on July 4th it is how it goes but nevertheless it was it was fun it was great we actually she had a great time we had a great time got a bunch of sparklers and stuff I was gonna ask what did you do what did you do besides eat gummies and uh ignore the homeless I don’t think any of these are accurate but I was gonna ask you if barbas played the role of h building seven in that 911 Exposition open up that line of humor ridiculous no he didn’t do all that but I watched the uh Disney by the way our hotel is like Steps from Disneyland which I’ve you know I’ve never been to I’ve been to Disney World in Florida a million times which to just walk around the facility I could see the Disney fireworks from my hotel window so that was actually pretty cool a bunch of the announced team went up to the roof to catch them on the uh on the balcony but uh yeah Luke you know God Bless America um I announced yesterday you know Wednesday during the press conference at this boxing match on Saturday their lead sponsor is uh is the digital coin Maga make America great again again so it’s uh so that you know so yeah all let’s go dude let’s do it awesome that’s awesome well people are going to lose a bunch of money in these crypto scams so it it all comes out in the wash all right BC so let’s talk about today’s program it’s not going to be a super long or crazy one we’re gonna talk about Ryan Garcia and then we’re going to get to this fight obviously that BC is at we’ll talk about Diaz mazal and then a couple of other quick hitters related to Canelo ilot Toria and Max Holloway a couple fun things so without further Ado BC let’s get this party started Ryan Garcia so yesterday it was announced ultimately at the end of the day or middleway through the day by WBC what’s his official title chairman Mauricio sulaman yeah basically announced that they were severing any kind of ties and that Ryan Garcia would be ineligible from even getting sanctioning from any kind of WBC related event now obviously he suspended so this is nothing imminent but the WBC obviously is one of the more prized sanctioning bodies and some of the more prized titles in the sport I mean there’s some debate about that but they position themselves that matters the most of the form yeah it’s the green one for folks me I know like all the different belts if you ever seen the boxers wear the green one that’s the one in question so let me ask you this BC first just a little sort of logistical question what is the Practical effect of that inside of boxing but bigger point is why did sulaman obviously sever ties well Ryan Garcia has been saying horrendous [ __ ] about people for quite some time he seemed to confirm that Jordan plant who is Caleb plants wife who was the Fox Sports One you know essentially what you do to an extent anyway for for to for for PBC that she was suing him for I guess defamation I’m not sure what we haven’t seen the lawsuit so I’m only speculating but more than that he went after Muslims he was using racial slurs by the way no one even talks about the fact the guy just engages in casual homophobia at all times yeah and I guess people finally had enough so tell me what it means that the WBC did this and then also where you come down on all this entire in reality what the WBC handed down doesn’t really mean a lot because Ryan Garcia’s already suspended for a year from that failed drug test from really getting commissioned in any state or country obviously you people have gone around that in the past but that could bring long-term consequences of him eventually getting back into big butts I’m glad that they did it though because in the disorganization of boxing we don’t have a league we don’t have a commissioner right there’s no centralized body there really is nobody to hand this type of stuff down so I I do like even though I criticize the WB a lot for some of their decision- Mak although they do try in other areas to try to you know clean up boxing or help boxing I think in this case somebody had to draw a line so at least Mauricio Suliman did and said look as a sport for what we control in this sport we’ve had enough and obviously Luke any of us could have drawn a line at any point the sexual comments about people’s wives constantly trying to fight all these Fighters hauling CLA Shields last week of lesbo make me a sandwich right went down some weird roads now obviously it’s really exploding that he’s saying I want to join the KKK I want to dig up George Floyd and kill him again getting our colleague Stephen Jackson involved on social media so at this point Luke it is it’s toxic but it’s beyond toxic and I think the reason is it’s not just the harm he’s bringing on potentially himself by so willingly forcefully purposefully trying to stir stir up contention in every possible category it’s Reckless contention which means it’s not only potentially going to hurt him it’s going to hurt people around him let me give you an example his brother sha Garcia uh is fighting on Saturday’s Diaz Moz on Main card right fighting the uh Amato Vargas the younger uh one of the three sons of Fernando Vargas we did fighter meetings with with both Sean Garcia and his dad Henry Garcia and obviously the topic of Ryan was brought up and you know and they they wish he would stop drinking get the help he needs at the moment and the family had to put out that statement yesterday that said we don’t align with these these negative things but they’re still hoping he shows up to the fight on Saturday in fact said look I I fight so much better when Ryan is there I’m really hoping that he gets the message and comes Luke the problem is he’s at the point now if he shows up anywhere it’s gonna be a riot it’s going to be a bad situation not just you know Caleb plant hiding like he did at the end of that PBC card to throw the beer in his face and they had a little a little mixup until security intervened you know it could be something way worse because it’s not just insult to this person insult to this person it’s now spraying full wide who else can I can I um insult to Beyond toxic levels to Beyond PR staining levels to the level of just bringing nothing but chaos and negativity to him everyone around him and by proxy the sport itself so it’s rare that we ever try to put lipstick on this pig that is the unorganized wild violent insane incredible sport of boxing but I’m glad somebody and it’s not just Mauricio Sudan it’s a lot of people on social media finally standing up being like enough of this guy don’t retweet him don’t talk about him if he doesn’t get the help he needs soon his life is legitimately seemingly in question in a lot of ways from what appears to be uh big time mental health setbacks the things he’s experienced in the past things that we sort of Justified when he beat Devon Haney as hey good strategy Ryan you fooled all of us but no he didn’t really fool us flute because we were still after that fight going hey big win but I don’t think it justifies all of those actions now he’s got unfortunately his mom Lisa who was here this weekend is battling cancer you know he’s suspended for a year which I said when the news broke we’re going to have to watch him Clos because if he doesn’t have the boxing and the training to keep him centered who the hell is he going to be now where is he going to go we’re finding out Luke he’s going wherever he wants throwing his money around but this is beyond toxic this is to the point of harassment defamation and much worse Luke unfortunately if he rolls up in public I don’t see how groups of people aren’t going to show up and try to gain the same kind of clout that he’s regularly trying to gain by by just throwing this stuff all over social media they’re gonna want to you know they’re gonna show up with receipts so he’s made his bed I think as a collective unit in boxing we all wish he would get the help he needs I don’t think at his core he’s a despicable person but his actions whether fueled by mental health whether fueled by substance abuse whether fueled by his seeming lust for the spotlight at all costs it is now gone you know past the point of repair in a lot of ways not past the point of repair to get back in line get back into a boxing match in a year and rejoin his career but if he doesn’t get help soon Luke there won’t be a future professionally and I think in terms of his life these are very perilous times and I don’t want to come up here and defend him at all in fact it’s it’s it’s it’s almost grossing me out to talk about this but there is that split dynamic between freaking get this guy away from social media and get him help and I’m not sure people are going to forgive him after the fact because Luke you can’t drop these type of bombs and then just go sorry I was drunk sorry I’m going through tough times so I just talked in a big circle with really no answer the biggest answer is his family needs to almost cancel this fight on Saturday maybe not but go right from this fight on Saturday find him and get him the help he needs luk that that’s really where we’re at right now I mean I have so many thoughts about this I mean first of all like obviously we were you and I were like me me more so but both of us were really wrong about what was going to happen in the Devon Haney fight like we all I I got I famously and very incorrectly said you know Devon hay is gonna tune him up like a guitar and so you know we none of that changes we were very wrong about Ryan in that particular sense but all of the concerns we expressed before that fight about why that fight shouldn’t happen we thought at that time BC that he was going through I mean remember he was partying in the club the week of the fight he was seeing shirtless in the club right the whole nine yards and everyone was like oh it’s this elaborate trolling and I’m like dude no it’s not like I mean there’s probably some there was some element of trolling that happened to camouflage what is obviously mental decline right that is clearly what had happened and we thought that the fight should have been uh called off because he was going to go in so unprepared that Haney would be running over him now that did not happen certainly but all of the alarm Bells we were ringing about this guy’s General State all of that proved true and in fact has gotten only worse BC never forget like all the things we could go through like you know using racial slurs using homophobic slurs going after people’s family members I mean you just on and on and on and on going after other religions in a very very negative way right just of just intentionally offending as much as possible every around you don’t forget he got arrested a month ago for felony vandalism as well for a in a hotel in I think it was Los Angeles maybe mayy Beverly Hills right next to it or whatever inside of it you get the idea um so like if anything everything is escalating and getting worse and worse and worse and worse this is why the fight should have been called off this is why people being like it was time to get help back in was that fight was 420 right that fight was back in April everybody back then was saying look this is not looking normal this is this does not appear to be very ordinary and the litany list of things that have happened before that was one thing it has been aggressively worse since then and folks I got news for you if nobody intervenes or he doesn’t get help in some kind of way that’s going to continue like there’s going to be a moment where the comeuppance of the world and I’m not wishing it upon him in fact I’m wishing the opposite I’m wishing that he could actually get some assistance he could get some help but if he doesn’t the comeuppence of the world whether that be from substance abuse whether that be from angry people at him whether that be lawsuits I mean just think about what has happened since that fight suspended for a year and we didn’t even talk about this BC he admitted on one of these like live streams that he does or maybe was one of the interviews I saw the video clip of it that he had someone in his Camp bring him supplements now he thought that the supplements were you know on the up and up like he still doesn’t he still maintains he didn’t do it intentionally but that he clearly indicates there was someone who was feeding himself St he didn’t ask any questions and he just took it and the whole thing was incredibly sketchy so he comes in overweight he was drinking during Camp he gets suspended ultimately he got a nice win he had to give what $1.8 million of that back he has only doubled down on his problem since then and felony uh vandalism and now this like like at what point like how juvenile of a [ __ ] person do you have to be to look at this and think this is like funny or awesome or cool you generally have to be a [ __ ] bottom feeder for this to be amusing to you there’s nothing amusing about it and I would generally say if you’re at all looking at this like he’s some kind of commodity to be used up for online entertainment before you’re done with him because by the way when it really crashes everyone’s going to do this with him there’s going to be no one there to like pick him up I assure you yeah well I I’ll wrap up I’ll wrap up on this I’ll wrap up on this and I’ll just say I’m not telling you wrap up I’m saying they may have all he his name may have already be toxic for good now after what happened yesterday to be fair I don’t see I don’t think so I mean boxing Don King is still around in his 90s and you know he what did he kill a guy like I mean you know yeah I think a couple actually yeah I mean I I would say forgiveness is always kind of possible in these circles um you know Johnny tapio didn’t do the same kind of thing I’m not in any way comparing them but I’m saying saying substance abuse nearly ruined his life I think that’s a pretty fair way to put it and he was able to mount some kind of a comeback again very very different but I understand I don’t know what it’s like for a mom to have cancer but I do understand what it’s like for someone to be uh damaged by the potential loss of a parent or to like what psychic toll that can take on you and I wouldn’t wish it on anybody and I definitely don’t Wishing On Ryan Garcia and during that period of my life I definitely acted out and did a bunch of horrible [ __ ] to people not not not like this but like things I’m not proud of in retrospect just because I was drinking all the time and you know it was a mess it was a complete mess so I actually understand that and I do think he can become a better person in the end that’s only if only if some kind of intervention happens along the way to get it right BC and this is the last point I’m going to make on this one which is dude if somebody doesn’t want help you can’t help them and that’s a hard lesson to learn and it’s a scary one too now of course if it gets so bad you know you can be admitted to a psych wart or something but that is difficult to do and that takes a lot of time and there’s no guarantees about that but short of that dude if someone doesn’t want help they won’t get it uh scary times for this kid scary times and everyone called us old being like Oh you guys are just old FY duddies no [ __ ] no [ __ ] we’ve been around for a while and we’ve seen [ __ ] dick up their lives in their 20s this was [ __ ] Deja Vu for of us and I can tell you I’ve seen what happens on the other side of it and it ain’t awesome I don’t know if we need a you know Britney level conservatorship but like seriously you know and I mean what what can the family do can they physically you know intervene and grab him and put a jacket around him and put him into safety I mean as a grown man he could break free I’m sure they tried the best they can but I I hope they realize I hope everyone involved and by the way I saw Dan Rayfield is reporting that uh Ryan fired his longtime advisor lawyer uh Lupe uh for the GU last nameer um and you know that seems to be a ma you know above among many red flags that’s a big one that there’s really no one riding the ship anymore not his parents not Oscar De La Hoya you know I mean not not any manager or anything he’s just completely lost on his own but if they don’t Corral him for his own good he’s gonna Crash and Burn soon Luke in the type of Crash and Burn that you don’t come back from okay and and whether that’s somebody running up on him whether that’s him harming himself I mean this is him harming himself what we’re seeing publicly this is him you know obviously being so overwhelmed by grief and and and whatever has gone into uh the mental health challenges he has that have been documented that took him out of the sport a couple years ago for for you know more than a year almost two years um these are the the giant red flags that if nothing is done and there’s only so much you can do but if nothing is done get really it’s GNA get it’s gonna get really bad Luke I mean it already is really bad I don’t know how much worse it can get that’s what fears me for even think about it this way think think about it this way he still has a lot of money he obviously he made a bunch of money fighting fighting tank think about like what happened with Errol Spence Errol Spence wasn’t doing all of this crazy ass [ __ ] but he was definitely partying and he was definitely boozing and he was definitely doing things he shouldn’t been doing including get getting behind the wheel of a car dude he nearly died now when I say he nearly died I don’t mean he was brought to the brink of death with the damage he suffered in the accident if you’ve never seen the the the the surveillance footage what was he driving like a Lamborghini what was the car he was driving yeah if if you’ve never seen that thing tumble he should have died that night Errol Spence should have died that night and he wasn’t doing anything half as bad as this like guys it’s headed to a dark I’m telling you it’s headed to a dark place if he doesn’t get help there’s just no two ways about it it will happen that that life has a funny way uh uh of of making of course correcting uh and sometimes in ways that are devastating and awful but it will happen I don’t I I I genuinely hope that there is somebody in his orbit that can get this guy some first of all some just substance abuse treatments because I saw people being like well you know what does being you know high on drugs all the time have to do with racism and I’m like I really don’t know what the correlation is between them but what I can tell you is if he was not on those substances my my my sense is we we interviewed him what was the last we interviewed him it was the NYC tank presser right yes he seemed like a normal motivated kind kid and that’s really what he is ma he had a major change psychologically emotionally after that tank fight I mean that tank fight made him rich and made him known but don’t forget he got criticized for almost taking a cotoni and not finishing the fight when he could have even got criticized if you remember by his actual promoters in clown I don’t know what happened but the only comparison is it’s not an apples to appas comparison but do you remember the story of Dennis Rodman in the 90s turning from hardworking defensive Detroit Piston to Out of Control San Antonio Spurs Chicago bll Lakers Mavericks it was the time that he sort of hit rock bottom Chuck Daily had left the Pistons he lost his father figure he sat outside the arena in a car in the middle of the night with a shotgun was going to kill himself didn’t woke up the next day and was basically like okay you know I’m flipping the script I’m a new person from here on out I’m just going to be wild and whatever to some degree something happened to Ryan along that Journey where he made that decision but Luke it’s it scream while it certainly screams substance abuse fueled I think even more it screams uh un unchecked and unkempt mental health that’s really that’s my that’s my tent diagnosis here yeah and it’s never going to fully excuse the actions but um I think that’s also what led him to the surprise upset Victory because he was in a different wavelength he went there you know no matter what playing out act and and how much of is it an act I just think he’s using the idea that’s an that it’s an act and at times it might be to justify all the decision making but um yeah I mean there’s there is there is definitely you see there’s definitely part of it that is intentionally being provocative in a thoughtful way when I say thoughtful I don’t mean smart per se but he’s thinking hey I’m going to provoke people I’m going to do this you know whether it was the way in Shenanigans he did or whatever with with a beer bottle or it wasn’t a beer bottle you know what I mean like that kind of thing but so much of this so much of this is obvious mental Decline and to your point that comes first and then the substance abuse that he’s pouring on top of it is just making it you know it’s just gasoline on the fire but I think you’re right it comes first from that and I don’t you know I don’t know if it’s if it’s the embarrassment of the lost the tank the criticism he did but at some point something happened where he made the decision that [ __ ] it from here on out I’m not only gonna be toxic some people think it’s just him being himself for the first time but when you mix a substance abuse when you mixed up the emotional pain God is that a uh is that a Molotov cocktail um and and he’s so rich that he go ahead I was gonna say final point there does seem to be a a counter opinion to this of like hey man boxing’s always got a lot of sketchiness going in a lot of its high level practitioners are having trouble with the law outside of it if we’ve got big time boxers that are you know getting jailed for domestic violence and yet we’re the second they get out right we’re setting up their next big fight why are people getting so on Ryan for just words man I hate that defense because yeah it is words versus actions but it’s purpose extreme toxic words that whether we’re in a PC Society or not will trigger so much negativity and toxicity that again my opening point I close with it Luke it’s no longer really about him if you’re around him you might be in danger seriously like it’s literally at that point like luk if he if he walks into an Arena shit’s going to go sideways in a big way that goes beyond you know viral internet scam or you know internet moment you know what I’m saying like yeah I mean there is something to be said for the reality that you know there are people who engage in or have been arrested for domestic violence or convicted of it and like to what extent is that worse I mean in certain ways it is it is I mean it’s clearly worse in a lot of a lot of important respects I don’t have any I wouldn’t challenge that argument I’m not judging sins on on a scale though right yeah we’re not saying that Ryan Garcia I’m not saying Ryan Garcia is Satan I’m saying Ryan Garcia is in trouble and what is making it so noteworthy is that he is broadcasting this decline as loudly as possible like with the Charlos you don’t really hear [ __ ] from them and then all of a sudden it’s like oh guy got involved he got arrested for something and that’s terrible too like please don’t misunderstand me again we’re not comparing it but if you’re asking like why there’s less focus on that is because there’s less advertisement of that Brian is just at all times blasting this out plus he’s a bigger star anyway than the Charlos or you know pick whoever you want to pick in one of these scenarios and so that’s that’s that’s ratcheting it up uh also again he just seems like a guy who was a great kid who just has taken a weird and bizarre and awful turn also you know let me just say this to like some of the edge Lords who watch [ __ ] like this normal people don’t like being called slurs that’s it’s a very common reaction to not like like that we’re not saying it’s necessarily on par with serious crimes that are hurting other people you can make determinations however you would like but this idea that like you know well they’re just words shut please shut the [ __ ] up please shut the [ __ ] up in in this world um going after people uh and doing it under the essentially what are the at least from a verbal standpoint the harshest terms possible and with the weight of what these words come from and the weight of what they mean and then just being like Oh you’re sensitive you’re deranged you’re deranged normal people don’t respond to this favorably nor should they more to the point nor is it indicative of rational clear thought it this is the this is a this is coming from a place the opposite of that and so you can dismiss it as be like well you know how much does he really mean it or whatever and that’s a separate conversation but this idea that this is well I’m just making sounds with my mouth um the only people who make that argument are people who are disconnected themselves from any kind of relationship or community in their own life and they like that lashing out uh in that particular way they have no real they have no human connection upon which to draw sympathy or empathy and so people just Edge lording their way through life is almost them lashing back out uh for not having those connections so you know most Hollow [ __ ] argument media has brought out the the the worst people and pushed them to the Forefront at all times Luke so uh that’s what I’m saying I don’t mean to get old man on you but you see the studies Luke about social media and teens and you know Ryan came up as a social media sensation as a teen on there um yeah there there’s a lot of long-term toxicity in yeah my favorite is these words don’t mean anything really then why are they your favorite these words have no value then why are they your favorite Dan He sto trying to uh make a fight with Ryan Garcia at the sphere in the UFC in September Luke maybe we should stop that I I this is my favorite it’s like yeah Ryan could just fight in the UFC like no no he can’t let me do ask let me let me wrap up this topic with one last question yeah is anything that Ryan has done if he were a UFC fighter what would the UFC do uh say we don’t police our Fighters no seriously if he says if you if you’re saying they would do anything would they do anything no if he’s saying the nword KKK George fler when he’s when you go when you start purposely going down those roads that’s when that’s when Daddy Disney Gets involved that’s when you know not they’re not letting that guy go out there they’re not letting him fight no that that’s that’s that’s the point of no return Sean Strickland is the edge of this Edge Lord Behavior Ryan Garcia is at the point of no return that they would have to do something they would have to step in and suspend they’d have to stop doing the way they do it normally of well they paid they paid their legal fees that was the biggest punishment against them you know we don’t no they would have to what would be your message to be what would be your message if they didn’t you can argue there’s a lot of those inconsistencies in the way that they present you know we honor pride month UFC but yet we’re g to let all of our people say the [ __ ] word to the mic they sto they stopped doing that do you see that they didn’t do anything this year look they wouldn’t let this go forward they couldn’t the the the the takedown after that you think they would I I I I here’s my answer I don’t know I don’t know but like the fact that I can’t say that they would do anything kind of says a lot I mean maybe you’re right in the end that like it would be so much pressure at that point but you know boxing is a African-American and Latino sport predominantly not not exclusively but predominantly so you know getting into racial [ __ ] when the audience is largely people of that race is different than in MMA where you know it’s it’s they’ve invited all the edge Lords in who think that like guys I’m so smart because I think racism is funny and cool like the dumbest [ __ ] you’ve ever met in your life they can’t tell the difference between them those people right I know but like they’ve invited them in the door and they got this they’ve got they they got this very matter ofct hands-off policy and it’s like I don’t know what they would do may maybe they would I I can’t say I don’t I’m not convinced that it would be automatic oh yes they would intervene I don’t know that they would to be honest with you um okay if um do you think do you think if this whole thing hadn’t happened and if Ryan wasn’t suspended that if he had wanted a UFC fight that Dana would open that door in a James literally a James Tony like situation because eay was like let’s put in the contract no takedowns yes I do think that they would I mean dude they brought in James Tony I I I watched that whole thing happen there’s a video if you guys have never seen it there’s a video of James Tony talking to Dana White and Lorenzo fertita in a meeting and in the meeting they were asking him like Beyond boxing what kind of relevant experience do you have and he went into like all this like Asian ISM [ __ ] and like he was making up Kicks that don’t exist he was like yo I use my front crane you know um side seagull kick and I’ve used it to like explode knees in the street and they were like okay yeah you’re gonna fight Randy Couture um so between that and like CM Punk if Ryan were available I yeah and and I again if he wasn’t doing crazy ass things and they wanted to book him hey I mean it would be a spectacle you know I sort of understand it but given what he’s up to I just hope Ryan and stack five aren’t in the build at the same time looking forward yeah not going to be great not going to be great um again all of it is all the tension is getting ratcheted up and uh yeah go this is this is Extreme go away heat so please go away get the help you need enough enough I can say this with boxing audiences he definitely turned a corner over the week he 100% turned a corner I don’t know with all the other folks but certainly on his end he he he [ __ ] him himself pretty good all right BC with that out of the way let’s talk about the next topic which is lighter Fair uh which is why you’re in Los Angeles so Nate Diaz is going to box Jorge mazal BC is it is it eight or 10 Rounds I can never it’s eight rounds right it is 10 a 10 round 175 pound light heavyweight D okay so it’s a light it’s a boxing light heavyweight contest 175 pounds Nate Diaz uh Jorge mazal BC let me ask the question that I think most of the audience is probably asking themselves which is why who is the audience for this because here’s let me P this to let me let me let me Pitch this to you in this way I think it’s a smart move that they delayed the fight I think it’s a smart move that they got they got Doone Pay-per-view on board they’ve got fight pass on board all of that is I I think they may they made good decisions in the end about when to put this fight and how to get it distributed but at some point you’re asking the audience for 50 bucks to watch two guys do bad boxing that’s a tough sell well yeah but it’s too celebrity guys very extremee celebrity guys in the Combat Sports Bas Combat Sports icons I think putting it on its own weekend which they were ultimately able to do it was one of the big tensions between Diaz and mozol there’s a lot of them the aside thing even though Diaz lost their first fight he only would take this fight if he was the aside if the fight was in California there was all these extra things that they added on MZ all acques so that’s part of sort of the beef between them but if you’re looking for like why what’s at stake I mean what’s at stake in some ways is their rivalry but I think it’s really about Jorge mazal really seeking a Rejuvenation at this point in his Combat Sports career he walked away from you know and retired after the Gilbert Burns lost walked away from UFC and MMA and we thought he was done and then he got into promotion and is juggling multiple promotions and and at some point found that love again through the idea of I want to stay in the UFC family I want to be under contract I want to get another big fight down the line against another big action name but I also want to try out boxing so it’s interesting that the UFC has sort of aligned with him financially and business-wise saying we’ll let you take I think it they agreed to three three fights in boxing why does that matter well I think mz’s found you know a new Revenue stream and New Life in this because this fight got delayed so many times originally you know they they signed the contract by the way for this fight last summer it was originally G to be like in April of this year it kept getting pushed back and what that meant was monal’s ultimately been in Camp for almost this entire calendar year they this team begged him to leave Miami he went to Las Vegas went into Jorge Capo’s gym went in as a I know I’m romanticizing the storyline here but this is what the team tells me went in as sort of you know from the captain of at to the to the last guy in the totem pole in the boxing gym and has earned his stripes for better or worse he signed on Dana White’s Guru Gary Brea and is now doing you know best shavee of his life talk but talking to his team it’s not just talk they look at it as this Luke you don’t leave the UFC and come back after a loss this is something his team told us in the fighter meetings UFC is not necessarily going to bring you back from elsewhere if there’s a loss so they look at this Nate fight as absolute must-win that if he gets this Victory here it could if he does it particularly by knockout which Jake Paul couldn’t do over 10 Rounds against Nate Diaz that it really could catapult Jorge whether you care or not into a number of crossover super super fight boxing matches in this large bubble space you may say I don’t care about that well look Luke these two have a history they don’t like each other I think it’s going to be a way better fight than people actually realize because Jorge’s legitimately motivated to to move this business in this direction and to keep alive hopes of coming back to the UFC and keep alive hopes of these big super fights and boxing and the reveal from Nate’s team over the course of this promotion that like he lost interest in training for Jake Paul that they they had a good camp up to a certain point and then you know Nate just kind of stopped carrying and it led to maybe the performance the word is that Nate is taking this extreme serious so I think it’s two aging brands that are looking to hold their value and set up future things and it it it works that it’s a continuation of their rivalry but in a lot of ways they were just the two biggest names available at this moment I think what that whole spiela just gave you ads is they’re not coming in here as much as it may seem due to the reluctance to talk and sell this fight as hey let me just grab this check and go back into retirement they’re legitimately looking at this as a turning point opportunity for themselves so take that opport you know take that for what you will but there is an interesting mix of boxing matches underneath it on the pay-per-view card that are really driven by dislike and and you know the Fernando vargas’ son against Ryan Garcia’s little brother and their longtime history in the amateurs so who’s this market across mix of MMA and boxing fans and I think that’s why you see that in the allstar announced team for whatever that’s worth to you but I think that these two are going to go in there and let their hands go and we’re going to get kind of what you pay for an action boxing match will the skill be next level no they’ve got one pro fight a pie but this bubble is still alive and well that the Paul Brothers have been the face of Luke and the more that UFC is allowing some of these aging names to take on these opportunities it’s not dead yet it used to be can Connor get out in time so Jake can fight him it’s kind of still open right now um I really think Jorge is is the liver dog of the two I think a lot of people when they’re actually legitimately breaking down this fight or like you know he has more to gain um I’m interested in that Luke at the end of the day beyond beyond working it I want to see what this actually looks like and where it goes and um I don’t know where Nate’s head is at that’s the one thing I don’t know right now I can’t yeah let me follow up there so like if you look around like Jorge did our show Jorge’s done a million podcasts he did kamaru and Henry’s podcast I mean everywhere you look I feel like Jorge has really tried to promote this fight he was on time for every single presser he had answers at every single presser there’s just been a level of commitment say again except for this past Wednesday that’s when pretty quick okay but the Press store that they did previously that you were hosting all those events like I’m just I’m going to give Jorge credit because I really feel like you know has it been perfect no but he seems to be putting in genuine effort and I did see that Nate Diaz did the all the smoke podcast and I found out he did the Demetrius Johnson podcast and that’s not nothing those are two uh certainly all the smoke has a big audience that’s not inside MMA so you’re reaching a whole new demo out there and then obviously Mighty Mouse has his own audience with inside Combat Sports and that’s great but I haven’t really seen him anywhere else showed up late all the pressors unenthusiastic would you say it’s fair if you’re from the outside looking in at a bare minimum it looks like Jorge is just putting in a lot more into this than Nate is oh no questions Blood Sweat and Tears in terms of the what this means to him but it’s like is that Nate throwing us sort of a facade of man I don’t care I’m Gonna Leave two press conferences early two more I’m gonna show up super late is that just the Nate Diaz experience and underneath is that building up a resolve in him at 30 n to still matter in this fight space I mean look if I could carve out a potential path for Jorge with a big win whether that’s Jake Paul match Darren till I mean God there’s been some Whispers and potentially even bigger crossover opportunities for him if he wins what do you think Nate is in this for at this moment is it just the paycheck is it a pivot toward an inevitable Conor UFC Trilogy bout like I think he’s going to do better than everyone thinks I think the the the what he put out against Jake Paul was wasn’t the best of him he self admitted but do you think he cares enough by his performance in this promotion to actually go back in that gym and bring out what the absolute best of what is left I don’t I can’t speak to his motivations but I’ll say this you go back to the first fight which obviously was MMA and it was also part of the reason why Jorge won on the feet was because of like kickboxing weapons I think is probably a good way to put that but I think that Jorge here’s just my re on things from Jorge’s perspective if he wins this and let’s say he looks spectacular doing it or at least you know it’s really dominant whatever that means he does have some options like the Jake Paul sweep Stakes might come calling or you know KSI or something and you can laugh at those fights but they’re big money right I mean he he he’ll get a big fat check for that and I’ve said it before we have BC true or false we have covered several of Jake Paul’s fights I’ve yet to meet a single Jake Paul opponent who wasn’t thrilled to be there one billion % so there’s that and I think he really has an and he I think he likes the style matchup too I think Jorge really believes he’s Superior on the feet and really wants to show that on the Nate side he’s still talking about finding his way back to the UFC and of course he’s always in shape like it’s not so much like he’s you know just sitting on the couch no one really expects that per se but I kind of feel like he’s in a stage where like does he really believe that winning is crucial on Saturday no Jorge does Jorge does seem to think that winning is crucial and that seems to be like just the trickle down effect from both of them seems to be substantial from that I agree do you think Nate’s bran could take another Nate performance right now the type of performance where it’s like he wasn’t dominated he had a couple moments of viral you know motions you know the brothers can do that Nick Diaz can lay on his side against Anderson we all know that But ultimately like doesn’t have big moments is never in a position to necessarily win it but doesn’t get dropped doesn’t get handled I mean that’s almost the worst case scenario in my opinion for Jorge and his team told us that they’re like we gain Nothing by winning a decision against Nate it’s not just one up what Jake did or what Jake couldn’t do against Nate by going for The Knockout they’re like we’re nothing if we don’t get that knockout we don’t have value on that level moving forward um if Nate has another performance like that are people going to pay for him anymore are people going to care anymore because you know he didn’t sell this fight but in some form his anti- selling is what actually sold it you could argue that right you could argue that a lot Nate and Nick have the most forgiving audience and part of the reason why they’re liked and loved and adored is because of the too cool for school attitude that they often have um but I just don’t understand how Okay so for example like okay if you’re Nate Diaz right why would you do the all the smoke podcast very simple it’s got a big audience and it’s digital first and you’re going to reach not just a large audience you’re going to reach an audience of people that traditionally don’t even watch Boxing or certainly not MMA it’s a great way to get introduced yeah yeah but but but again yeah EXA exactly to your point there’s a lot of other things that can really make Nate shine to that audience on top of it so like that makes total sense but at the same time you’re trying to attract that audience that doesn’t have that same Diaz Army reverence and you go in and you put up like like a half you know I’m not gonna say half ass but you just have a very ho home kind of performance and another losing effort I don’t know how you recruit them into subsequent pay-per-view purchasers of what you’re trying to do that’s the disconnect for me ultimately here well that’s why I actually think and I’m not just trying to you know sell pay-per-views here because I’m working on the broadcast although if you order it from fan.com ppv for 49.99 you get a t-shirt as well um what I’m trying to say ultimately is I think this leads Nate into going in there and fighting and I think Jorge is gonna make him I think Jorge is so motivated by fueling this entire six months together into this performance that can catapult him in so many ways I mean look he seems reborn by the UFC’s willingness to let him shop around now with their blessing to some degree with you us you know or hey when we had them on morning combat are they getting a percentage wouldn’t comment on it but that seems to completely rebirth him into into trying harder into going all in I think what everything we just said about Nate you can say what you want about Nate’s intelligence you certainly you know slly like a fox in a lot of ways I think he gets that at the very least I think he gets that that he needs to fight he needs a performance Loop you know win or lose but he needs a big performance that represents that’s the thing I don’t think it matters if he loses I do think it matters if he loses and looks disinterested or something you know what I mean but if he’s in there and he’s it’s a back and forth and hey Jorge comes up you know six rounds to four or something I don’t think that that hurts his stock at all and nor should it it’s just I can’t quite tell what we’re GNA get also let me ask is there any drug testing for this fight that you’re aware of not that I’m aware of it could I but I have not been in those circles with the commission or I’m not by if anybody doesn’t care about that I’m like number one on the list but I’m just I’m hoping but you know you never know quick aside quick aside from the undercard the co main is kind of interesting if you’re you know certainly if you’re a big boxing fan of Danny Jacobs retiring for two years and now coming back at 38 fighting Shane Mosley Jr and and and really what Danny Jacobs has said was he’s hoping to like catapult from this directly into a title fight at 168 and in his mind round out what he hopes will eventually be a Hall of Fame resume you can have doubts at his age and situation whether that’s even relevant but his manager Keith Conley revealed to us dur in the fighter meetings that it wasn’t supposed to be sh Mosley Jr as his opponent on this pay-per-view it supposed to be Caleb plant Danny Jacobs was going to come back from two-year retirement fight Caleb plant Conley said they offered plant 1.25 million to take the fight and he ultimately after getting clearance from the PBC this is per Conley turned it down we do hear Rumblings that plan is gonna we know he’s in Camp and we hear Rumblings that he’s gonna headline the pbc’s first non- pay-per-view card this summer on Prime video which could end up being the case what do you make of that scenario Luke like does that mean plant didn’t want that smoke or was that a business decision so plant tweeted I think yesterday or maybe Wednesday at the latest that he was back in Camp so I think that he’s trying to see what’s going to happen with we’ll talk about Canelo here in a minute this what Canelo sweep stes because if Canelo ends up fighting Eubank Jr and that leaves buronga hanging plant versus berlanga I got to tell you that’s not the biggest fight in box but that’s a great fight to make I think there’d be a lot of interest in that I think plant likes his chances quite quite wisely so I think he was probably trying to see what are my options about all of this and I don’t I don’t necessarily mind that also I think he is still trying to do PBC a solid they wanted to keep him for like this rejuvenated non- pay-per-view series that they want to do him and stepen Fulton Jr so it probably has more to do with that than like oh I don’t want to fight Danny Jacobs on this card you know what I’m saying I’m with you um BC by the way Nate Diaz Jorge Mas all both 39 years of age as of the time of the fight itself Nate Diaz will be 39 years two months two weeks and 6 days Jorge masal 39 years seven months three weeks and three days boy both guys beaten down the door of 40 this does seem like you can get something done here but it’s kind of now or never for any big checks yeah certainly on the Jorge side um I think that’s why the best case scenario here is look are you going to get Elite boxing no but if you can get a fight you can get a grudge match if you can get a legit back and forth could be very very entertaining on Saturday and uh I mean look there’s been some Whispers that Jorge may be like looking at big big name retired boxers that you’ll fight after this so that is interesting I mean I don’t know like’s got a lot do those names do those names rhyme with shea weather yeah yeah yeah shame leather yeah yeah we see very quickly before we move on to anything else here uh co-main Anthony Pettis taking on Chris Aila another Jacobs is theil man off okay sorry it’s on this card well known names to MMA fans obviously Anthony pet former UFC lightweight champion and Chris Aila a onetime UFC and bellor fighter Chris ail by the way just kind of like being part of the Nate Diaz Army and staying on these cards has done wonders for himself I mean that quite genuinely he has played this very very smart for himself Anthony Pettis obviously had uh a boxing match previously against Roy Jones Jr I don’t know what to really make of it but what do you think about this one I don’t know I don’t know I mean Chris abula said about five words on five different press for stops but in yesterday’s spider meetings via Zoom L he was talking a lot I’m like wow this guy’s got a cool personality I like him I’ve never heard him speak this much before um he’s only 31 and I know you know in the MMA sense yeah he fought in UFC and Bator but he was always just that dude from from the Diaz Brothers Camp he has won five in a row now that’s varying crossover levels of boxing I think last fight Luke he beat a guy who was making his Pro debut remember Jake brutal Boswick the bkfc fighter with the tattoos on his head that we met at Phil daro gym so it’s been a a myriad mix of levels of experience but he does fight he does come to do that exactly and let his hands go I think it’s Pettis his fight to win because although abula is tough although he can you know he can he can defend himself he can counter with combinations there’s not enough there offensively to dominate or win this fight I don’t know I don’t know what to make of Pettis at this point at his career with the miles on him and whether he can really make noise in boxing beating an old wary Jones is one thing I know he beat vson Henderson last year in their karate combat trilogy but uh Pettis told us he’s he’s hoping to springboard this into fighting legitimate boxers after this that seems very ambitious Luke I think ultimately this fight’s going to be competitive pedestal win a close decision but um we’ll see what we got here are you do you have any expectations there or you like no Chris AA 31 years five months uh years of age Anthony Pettis 37 and five this is again going to be at um so be at 175 you know I think taking on boxers real boxers at age 38 is probably not going to go well if it goes at all but I asked him specifically Luke if he’s on this undercard auditioning for the winner of Diaz versus mazal in boxing remember obviously he fought Nate Diaz the last time Pettis fought in the Honda Center here in Anaheim was when he lost to Nate Diaz he said Nate Diaz gotten head and that’s took him off of his game and that’s the reason why he lost and he was like no I’m not here to fight the winner I might be fighting a real boxer if I get the win here so like you know big name boxer so like oh yeah me just just one more reminder that for all the fans who don’t like boxing it’s getting your favorite Fighters paid just keep keep that in mind mean can’t turn every episode into a Dana dunkfest remember that comment he made in the last clip we showed of like all these boxers want to come to MMA like that could not be more more of the that could not be more wrong what boxers are trying to go to MMA outside of right Garcia who’s suspended right it’s like yeah and also just saying words like there’s no actual commitment to it all right BC let’s talk about ilot Toria and Max Holloway so Ilia Toria sat down with uh Marka which is like the biggest newspaper news organization in all of Spain and he sat down and they asked him like hey what’s up with your next fight and he said quote it’s not because of me they called me referring to the UFC they called me to say that Max Holloway was having family issues that he was having trouble cutting weight and that he wanted to fight in a higher weight class honestly I don’t know I have no idea to which Holloway retweeted that and then added the guy is just making things up at this stage I’ve been ready to Poria responded choose a date choose the way you want me to beat you and write it here I am ready to turn off your lights whenever and wherever call Dana Max Holloway responds been talking to them brother you need to check your numbers since you said it the sphere by Toe Hold see you soon right pick your method all that stuff and then he ends with God bless you brother nothing against you but it brings me great joy this is Ilia Toria to be the first to disconnect you it seems so fun now there actually was a response from uh Max after this you know talking about you need to disconnect from social media blah blah blah BC everyone is like oh Ilia is lying blah blah blah I’m like guys have you thought of the possibility that neither guy is getting accurate information from the direct source rather than one guy is just making [ __ ] up out of nowhere maybe he’s just reacting to whatever information true or otherwise that he’s been given what do you think I think your boy need I think you and your boy need to be uh put on the stand here Luke and and talk about things look chapor is great and then to some degree I love the the smug confidence but I do think he takes it too far a lot we all want this fight to happen guys call Dana if that’s the problem because what we’re both of these break their wins in April there or was it febru sorry February of this year toor he fought yes the the The vulk Knockout was in February it seemed to start you know a new chapter a new era but like what has happened since then I know Tor right now is doing a lot of media and putting out his Memoir which is cool and all that but a couple months later in April when Max Holloway delivered that knockout at UFC 300 to me that suddenly made this fight already a camp Miss need to see it you know times 10 this could be the biggest fight UFC could make especially if you do it in the Giants stadium especially if you do it Spain why are they not aggressively going after it and I think this little exchange it’s hard it’s a lot of he said he said but Max was quick to counter and be like waiting on me dude like let’s make this fight I kind of feel like I want to say two things one IIA make this freaking fight capitalize on this show us exactly who you are and UFC starts turning start stirring that [ __ ] like let us know that this is coming begin to promote that now because this is so big look your boy Alia did one more tweet that kind of turned my gears a little bit after that those exchanges with Max where he said to all those who continue to doubt me this zot Toria screw all of you I don’t care about any of you you just protect project your insecurities onto me your Envy born from your inability to pursue your desires positions the heart keep watching Me Shine exclamation point hey Ilia that’s the thing we want to watch you shine you just had one of the biggest breakthrough Winds of all time back in February okay dude but the but things turned quick around here stop make the fight with Max do nothing but go in the direction of making the fight with Max because you want us to keep watching you shine that’s what we want to see we want to find out if you are the next face of the UFC if you are the next generation of dominant star representing multiple different countries and having this cool swag and being all Real Madrid and Luke’s har [ __ ] show us it then I don’t know Luke ultimately who’s who’s right and who’s wrong and the he said he said but can the three of you or the four of you Dana Hunter Elia Max all get together on a zoom call and make arguably the biggest fight the UFC can make this year I mean let’s go Luke all right because I don’t think your boy Toria while sitting on the throne the last six months has won all of six months six months since when oh sorry you’re right my math is wrong Luke so five months you know what I mean like you got to that throne but I think he’s enjoying that Throne a little bit too much let’s go make the fight that’s really going to prove to us who this guy is Luke let’s do it okay let’s do it right yeah I mean I I just had to tell you that like obviously getting out there and doing like you know he blew up in Spain and doing so much media there and there was a documentary that came out about him called elor and all that kind of stuff obviously that has taken up some bandwidth I mean there’s no denying and that probably has played a role but Max was recently on vacation with his family he put out a big documentary or you know self-produced you know Vlogs about it he was in Japan it looked [ __ ] awesome by the way anyway so this this idea that like it could have happened right away doesn’t make sense because the max had to win in April and then probably would need time off no matter matter what he took a vacation but to your point now it’s time to start figuring out like hey where in the calendar is this going to sit let’s get ready for it I don’t mind if they put it 307 or 308 I don’t you know even if it’s far away but it’s on the actual calendar I’m cool with it completely so I guess we’ll have to see it’s just funny to me like that like like what gets the fan base pissed off at fighters on social media and what doesn’t and it’s like is Ilia annoying on social media yeah like there’s clearly he is smug as [ __ ] L that’s your smug as [ __ ] smug as [ __ ] like I I don’t deny it at all but it’s like they’ll just let people do like say racist or completely outrageous awful [ __ ] about other people and then like that’s cool and based as the idiots say and then this guy being smug is like the biggest crime on [ __ ] planet Earth and like so so like what gets adjudicated as like oh this really is beyond the pale versus what people let slide very Illuminating let’s let’s leave well you’re still fighting against some internet troll I’m not no I’m not fighting I’m not fighting against Ryan Garcia or any of this stuff I’m simply saying watch over time what the fan base decides is worth getting angry about and what they don’t because you can’t argue BC you can’t argue at you can argue now is the time to start making the fight that’s true that’s true very true but you can’t argue that it’s been it’s been that time it hasn’t been because they had to see what was going to happen with Max vul got viciously koed he’s not coming back Ortega who the [ __ ] knows what’s going on with him they had to see what was going to happen at 300 he obviously got a dominant win but it was a long fight he’s gonna take some time off no problem you couldn’t just make the fight thereafter it wasn’t going to work so you had to wait a little bit so now you can Circle back to it and H I think pressure is on as we speak but this idea that he’s been just like kicking his feet up when there were like available fights to make right at that moment is just not true and I’ve seen people being like this guy this guy is stalling the division what the [ __ ] are people talking about he’s not stalling if he’s if he really stalls it out now now he’d be stalling but up to this point he’s not been stalling anything that’s simply not take his Victory lap that’s what you’re saying let him take his Victory lap but look to be fair they did have this figured out in my mind the moment Max knocked out Justin I know at that point we’re like wow Max is a title contender in two divisions real fight to make unless unless unless they wanted to respect that volkanovski was a longtime running champion and I do like the immediate rematch when it makes sense when there’s that okay that guy’s like DJ Mighty Mouse never got the rematch against cejudo not not that was the rematch never got the trilogy against them after losing a very close decision they just traded him out I don’t always like this I mean I do think the shevchenko you know raso rivalry is kind of extending really long but that that was the fight to make in April when we saw it so I just don’t like that your response to the smugness of Toria and the fact that maybe L he doesn’t look like he wants this fight is to shame some racist fans on the internet but forget that [ __ ] this guy bad for shaming racist fans on the internet I got some nerve it’s BC understand the point I’m trying to make in the broader scope of watching people react to what they get angry at and who they get angry at it for and then what they let it slide and what they don’t if we’re observing the things that are worth getting angry about a guy being a champion being smug on social media is fairly low on the list of things I mean again if he was stalling it out really stall like for example it’s now July 5th if it’s August 5th and we still have no movement on this okay you can bring out the pitchforks fair enough I can I can say at that point that he would be clearly like hey let’s move this [ __ ] along but up to this point it’s just people being mad at a guy who is smug which I get and who beat one of their favorite Fighters viciously and that doesn’t create warm feelings for him I I understand that I’m just saying some of the rhetoric about him is overheated some of the rhetoric is overheated he’s not stalling at least up to this point and I definitely think they’re going to make this fight it’s just a question of like when they get it on the calendar is there any justification of my impatience as a fan when I look at the UFC and I feel like right now there’s too much all or nothing going on meaning the all is we’re so committed to Jones versus stpe that we’ll wait on it for two years no matter what or the nothing nothing is that so many fights are getting put together last minute the fights aren’t getting signed till the day before that’s just sort of where we’re at is it too much for me to ask more that they would look at the coming attractions in Horizons the big fights available and really start to build it out months in advance like we used to do in the big boxing matches of the 80s and 90s I don’t necessarily need a press conference tour it’s 2024 that’s the old way of doing it a lot of ways but something consistent aggressive that builds us toward these big matches signing them early earlier announcing the DAT earlier really starting to turn not just where all your content comes out on fight week and it’s this explosion of oh my God I can’t wait for Max versus Elia I want to not be able to can’t wait for a fight for six months if a fight is big enough that’s the old way of doing it is there room for that in today’s business practice am I asking too much as aan I I don’t know if you need six months to that point I think that’s a little excessive Plus in six months man guys can go through injuries and Rehab all in that time like that’s a little long but for example I saw people complaining and didn’t have this complaint did you see the uh or any clips from the press conference between Izzy and DDP for UFC 305 that was in Australia so I saw folks being like yeah exactly people were like hey why are they promoting 305 when 304 hasn’t even happened yet I’m like guys I think that’s smart get out there in front of it have a press conference to announce tickets are going to be either on sale or going on sale soon like whatever the whatever the call to action is put those in the face off put it in your mind that like oh we got a big important date on the calendar right there C ccle that thing and it can really set it up uh I think quite well and I don’t think it really gets in the way of 304 to be honest with you so I actually really like that the UFC had a press conference to get that ball rolling plant a flag on the calendar and make all the the the lights point at it that that that to me was great let’s just get that on the calendar for featherweight let’s get that on the calendar for bantamweight like what’s going on with show like this is what I mean like oh you know ilo’s holding up the division where’s Shaun Al’s next title defense I’m not even blaming him I’m simply saying What’s happen Happ in the UFC Machinery that we can’t get him versus morab on the calendar for some reason so there’s there’s plenty of blame to go around or at least questions to be asked I just feel like because Toria is annoying to people that the the the way in which they’re interpreting it is actually much worse than it really is that’s all all right some of that is fair some people just hate the smugness of he is smug I mean he is [ __ ] smug there’s no two ways about it yeah I mean you know feel that you do feel the same way about him that I feel about Brian or right I don’t want to bang him so no not quite the same come on I have sex with we can be friends Brett and I okay he’s a very nice man okay it’s very platonic it’s great I what Ryan Garcia over here L come on I will say I mean I I’ll say this BC true like serious question first of all I mean this is why this is why I think also and I let me backtrack a little bit here and and and say this I also Al understand some of the fan frustration and I have frustration about it too which is man Max versus Ilia no matter who wins is an exceedingly important contest I mean let’s think about it for a second right if Max wins dude you’re talking about a career resurrection and we were there at UFC 276 that seemed impossible impossible after what volkanovski did to him in that third fight but then he goes and does what he does against Yer and all those folks and Arnold Allen and then against Justin gatei incredible if you go and take the title back from the guy who beat you three times dude you’re just talking about I mean he’s already going to go into the Hall of Fame but that is going to change the way I mean you’re upper mantle of like alltime UFC champs conversely I saw someone saying this recently which is all right let’s say Toria wins if Toria wins name an name an achievement in a calendar year that’s better than beating vulcanos and Max Holloway tough to do bro tough to do so either way you’re talking about a and by the way just the skill level on both of them next level that is that’s Pro BC that’s probably the best fight that the UFC can make irrespective of weight class so I get I do and I I’ll backtrack a little bit I honestly do get people being like dude put that [ __ ] [ __ ] on the calendar and to pour you rubbing people the wrong way only just you know makes everything worse yeah put it on the calendar do do the press conferences give me a a pre-flight documentary series just I mean like aggressively I want to see them do that more Target these matchups and aggressively really bang that drum we’ll see I mean I mean I complain about a lot but I do enjoy last but not not last but not least BC uh we have the Canelo Alvarez situation so not last I got one more for you but yeah let’s go to hold on but that one there let’s get to it very quickly if we can so BC here’s my view there were reports that came out I think yesterday that Canelo was in you know reaching final negotiation stages potentially with Chris Eubank Jr which is one of the most why the [ __ ] would you ever make this fight kind of fight it just makes no sense however BC what it really kind of gets to me is they’re probably leaking that because they actually want to fight berlanga and they’re putting pressure on the camp to do something by leaking to the press that they’re going to go in another Direction with Chris Eubank but that all gets back to a different question which is why the [ __ ] is Canelo fighting Edgar berong Andor Chris Eubank Jr when David benovitz is sitting out there this whole time as the mandatory the the guy to fight nothing’s happening to that point David benovitz put on uh for sale merch you can buy of ducks looking with a Canelo face and then like a duck hunter out there like sniping them off in the air BC dude what is Big Red doing whatever he wants like there is a a lot of pride in Canelo I mean obviously we respect Canelo respect the [ __ ] out of Canelo I never respected him more than that run he did to the super middleweight title and we were a big part of the coverage of that Caleb plant fight and he was P for bound King and he was responsibly as the face of this Sport and also at the sports best constantly taking the best matchups available he gave us so much gravy for so many years going up to light heavyweight but while you do get some cushion in that and we do whenever there’s a mandatory or if there’s a fight he wants but we don’t want you give him that cushion but this has just been outright refusal avoidance not pettiness but stubbornness the stubbornness that says guys I’ve done everything for you you know let me let me do me now well no you’re holding up the division with the belts and unfortunately the sanctioning bodies are playing into that by making Edgar banga his number one Contender when banga has done nothing to earn that nothing nothing the fact that Morel and benovitz who were lingering as in the in the mandatory number one Contender area for a couple years had to both move up in waight because of his reluctance says so much um canelo’s out of excuses and out of answers here if he goes with berlanga it’s an extreme duck of Benitas it’s a guy who’s not even remotely ready for this level of prime time and it’s a complete cash in on the Mexico versus Puerto Rican rivalry and just you know I’m gonna do me but Luke I feel like Canelo has been giving of late despite getting himself into big fights and signing it the attitude the the the joy of the public in following his journey is waning rightfully so unless she’s saying look I’m retiring next year and I’m just gonna play out this string and do my final laps of fights and you can watch him if you want to or not at that if he did something like that we would just go okay he chose not to fight benovitz but he’s getting out of the sport we’ll deal with that reputation wise the rest of the way as we go but no he’s actively trying to defend the duck while maintaining ownership of these four belts and the the fact that this that the the few people in boxing who have power in this disorganized sport sanctioning bodies who wield this power forcefully the fact that they so willingly play into this it’s just so stupid and ridiculous you know to try to keep up business and keep Canelo with the belt and get those big sanctioning fees but Luke any of these opponents no matter if he’s trying to use one over the other to force negotiation Jal the three opponents as you mentioned Jal Charlo Edgar banga Chris Eubank Jr I mean if that was his third Flight of the calendar year of any of these and he already fought Killers we’d be a little bit more you know Rel we’d be a little bit more nicer in our reaction to that but you’re once again brazenly ducking David benitz I don’t see how this will not be a big stain on him Luke and I know people will say well reic B still made the Hall of Fame despite Dro in the belt in the garbage to avoid lenx Lewis famously yes there have been famous ducks or fights that you couldn’t make because of reasons but Luke when those have happened a lot of times even Mayweather Pacquiao now it did happen after five and a half years but if it never did we would have ad nauseum forever debated whether it was Manny’s reluctance to do the drug testing that held that fight up or whether Floyd was trying to out AG him and wait on him we would have debated that forever bringing in Bob arum who’s at fault here in this case Luke historically canalo will only be at fall so I do get a lot of people pushing back going VC man get give this guy the room to be what he is he’s done so much for our sport no one’s going to be caring about it at the level you care about it now I’d argue that I’d argue the [ __ ] out of that Luke this is part of me being too fanboyish in my quasi role as journalist Entertainer fan but I do not have a justification unless he’s willing to get out of the sport move divisions drop the belts what have you for what he is doing to Ben aidas right now and I don’t know how these fights are going to sell on the level of the demand that that Canelo has for a for a fee what is the general Canelo like 35 million for fight right like the pre guaranteed how are you going to pay that for any of these opponents if you’re PBC and this appears to be the final fight on the current PBC deal for Canelo according to Eddie Hearn by the way and Eddie Hearn himself in interviews in the last two days was like they’re not goingon to sell I can’t justify this for Canelo none of these are going to sell on that level every day it gets worse in my mind so Luke am I Fanboy who is turning on Canelo because he won’t do what I want I mean I I I cannot accept a justification where I go you know what you’re right and I’m wrong and I love sa dude I freaking love that guy come on you know [ __ ] the pot yeah exactly it’s the it’s the one it’s the it’s the having your cake and eating it two of it all I think is the problem it’s not that like in a vacuum fighting banga is like a disaster but fighting banga while benovitz is out there while holding on to the titles when you just fought the smaller Charlo and you fought John Ryder which was a mandatory okay fair enough um but you know now Hae muga who was never gonna win that fight that was never GNA happen and he looked like he carried him at the end of it it’s like dude like you can’t want the agulation and the ranking that comes with beating like the Caleb plants and you know unifying at 168 you know you can’t you can’t you can’t say well okay I did this now I deserve it and then take these obviously lesser fights and say um the criticism is unwarranted and and not that these are on par with beating Caleb plant or something like that but that these are also worthy of respect it’s like not really not really if you’re going to take those kinds of fights when you have the other ones available and then the boxing architecture is supposed to demand that you take them you can’t run from the criticism at that point you just can’t like it is owed to you it is a debt that has to be paid by everyone observing and watching clearly recognizing something is off here and so to your point again let’s be real about this too and I think you are on board with me I don’t even necessarily mind totally that Canelo wants to fight banga or Eubank or whatever who you know the bigger Charlo whoever he ends up fighting actually in a vacuum I kind of don’t I don’t love those fights I don’t want to see them but I don’t hate Canelo for wanting to do that I don’t it’s the sanctioning bodies the sanctioning bodies are the one entity in the entire sport that is supposed to put sporting needs first promoters are not promoters are supposed to put on fights that people want to pay money to see boxers it’s prize fighting get the biggest [ __ ] bag you can for the least amount of friction that’s the way the sport goes it’s the sanctioning bodies that are the ones that are supposed to provide the architecture and then everything move in the direction that we ostensibly want it to go and they are letting Canelo get away with murder here with respect to what his responsibilities are and yet what is demanded of him and it has corrupted the entire process Luke if he was wanting to fight Chris Eubank in a English soccer stadium I do think you could partially justify this but it seems according to Eddie Hearn who is not promoting Canelo at the moment but seems to be you know knowledge he’s like no that fight would 100% be in the states and if it was a PBC pay-per-view it most likely would Luke so there’s really no hook there for for for Eubank Jr at this moment so um yeah this sucks dude this sucks sucks for PBC it’s it just sucks I mean the charot fights Dead on Arrival for for reasons that that are both Jamal and Jamal related the Eubank fight is okay but I mean this is Canelo so Luke is there let me ask you this if he fought Eubank in the UK as you kind of indicated I don’t think it’s a UK fight but let’s just say that it was i’ I’d hate it less I’d hate it less partially justify it yeah is there let me ask you two more scenarios here because part of me is saying okay there’s unprecedented money right now is Canelo just trying to be the businessman knowing that saudi’s here and just saying let me keep saying no no no no no until Saudi sits me and benav is down in a room and says What’s it gonna take that’s one thing the other thing is is Canelo just trying to finish the string at 68 knowing inevitably that he wants to close out his career at 175 and thinking to himself why do I need to go through Benitas now when I can let benas go back up and sort out the me not the mess but sort out what potentially happens to ball better and where the Undisputed Championship is going there and saying him to himself if benitz is that dude then he can go get some 175 titles and we’ll meet up again up there I don’t think that would I don’t believe in that theory either so how about the one that’s most obvious which is it just seems like he doesn’t want to fight benovitz yeah not so so what do you say he’s not afraid he’s not physically afraid of him afraid of he’s older he’s old again again are you mad at Canelo for taking a big money fight that is much easier to win than David benovitz no guys it’s a very just think about it rationally it makes rational sense the problem is the sanctioning bodies are the ones who are designed to make people move in directions that they wouldn’t necessarily want to go for for sporting purpose and they are just letting the whole thing they’re letting they’re letting us down that’s really the the problem here so yeah all right what did you I got one more topic for you but before we get to that topic I have a question because you spurred something in my MMA brand you said what imagine and it is a crazy imagination ailia Toria closes out 2024 by knocking out Alexander volkanovski and then beating a resurgent Max hollowood I’m gonna give you three calendar years in UFC history that I believe this is me doing very quick research a couple minutes ago I’m probably forgetting one so you could tell me but I’m going to give you three famous calendar years and you tell me if what Toria has the potential to do with top that are you ready go 2019 aagna takes a decision over Anderson Silva outlasts Kelvin Gaston one of the best fights of all time knocks out Robert Whitaker to win the middleweight title all in 2019 it’s big was it bigger or would would Toria be bigger or or less it would depend on how he beat Max but if he knocked out Max I would still say that’s bigger okay 2016 Amanda Nunes wins a decision over Valentina shevchenko in their first fight at UFC 196 submits Misha at UFC 200 to win the championship and knocks out Ronda Rousey in 48 seconds all in the same calendar year is Toria bigger or lesser than that in terms of the comp that’s a big one that’s a big one um again if he sleeps Max I would say it’s bigger if he just beats him but like it’s a split decision kind of thing maybe amandas is better okay this is the hardest one that he’s gonna have to be 2011 Jon Jones submits Ryan Vader in a number one contenders fight between unbeaten Fighters destroys Shogun to win the championship submits Rampage Jackson and a huge pay-per-view puts Macha to sleep and I thought he was dead for three seconds to close the year in December those four calendar those four wins in the same calendar year made him as a fighter three of those are probably against UFC Hall of Famers and you know Ryan Vader’s no slouch I think that might be the greatest year in UFC history so that’s a big one obviously Connor’s 2016 pretty good too when he beat you’re right you’re right you’re right you’re right sorry what am I saying of course um but nevertheless winning the the the second belt was pretty big but I would say that that 2011 was better I’d say that that 2011 was better um but this is Pantheon level if Toria finishes this calendar year there yeah again to yeah exactly to your point if he can go in there and again I mean finishing Maxes seems like it’s impossible but who’s to say but if he were to do something like that we we would have to we would have to ask questions about where it ranks among you know best all-time years even though it’s just two wins it’s like two of the very [ __ ] best wins you could ever get you know something like that crazy yeah all right why don’t you wrap up here what else you got by the way GSP I’m trying to figure out what was his best year would it be 06 when he beat BJ and Matt Hughes consecutively the Matt Hughes one was to win the title um the so no because the pen one is very controversial and he got by on the skin of his teeth with wrestling so I don’t feel like that’s accurate no right Luke to close I doubt you care doubt you extremely don’t care but Nisa badarian was finally interviewed he’s the of course the MVP Jake Paul promotional partner there finally interviewed by MMA hour Ariel helani the reveal I got from there that you know detailed his long relationship with with being an adversary of Dana White but working for the for cheetas all that he said that when Mike Tyson pulled out of the July 20th Netflix event that mvp promotions went back to Netflix and said we are willing to do Jake Paul versus Logan Paul and we’re here to tell you that they’re not going to fight in a brotherly way according to badarian Netflix said we love the fight not enough time to properly promote it Luke I know they have teased this in the past I know that when the Pitbull Brothers in Bellator at one point teased this you were you were like man I hate this I don’t want this we’ve been through this before with that World Series of fighting superhero guy but this would be an extra if an extravaganza on a new level in Modern Day promotion and social media and this bubble were in if Jake versus Logan happened and they really sold it as yeah we’re brothers but we’re competitors and we want to find out who’s the best between us and there was some level of a promise that you’re going to get an actual fight here a could you be bought into to care and two how big of a fight would that actually be considering you’re not really going after fight fans you’re going after Society we’re selling brother versus brother you know I mean like it’s it’s it’s [ __ ] incredible and intense and weird and all that all inone but it’s so car crash you couldn’t turn away am I wrong you couldn’t you’re wrong yeah I mean you’re asking me I mean okay so how big would it be it probably be very big among people who’ve lost a lot of money in crypto um fair fair not big for me I mean people misunderstand like I’ve said this like I kind of appreciate the Jake Paul experience more but people misunderstand sometimes what that means I don’t mean that I actually like like watching his fights I don’t like once like B Rings fights on it’s not that interesting to me and why would it be like a guy who is not like highlevel professional you know in these sort of like very big bouts but there’s not a lot of again what I appreciate about Jake Paul when you watch him up close and when you watch the Jake Paul machine is not that when the fight starts it’s very interesting and if you just focus on that there’s nothing to it it or least not much to it anyway but it’s the clever way in which he has figured out how to get incredible notoriety and money which is he basically realized that there obviously YouTube boxing had come prior to him he didn’t invent it but the way he really got big was by pick we talked about it before he picked a fight with MMA realizing hey my skills are good enough to beat these guys who are not very good at this at all uh and they have big names and they’re desperate for money because they never do anything to help themselves to get big money except take fights with him so let me see how far I can take that and he has ratcheted that up over time bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and ended up in this place like it’s a very clever kind of business model that he has crafted for himself that has certainly gone much further than I ever would have thought possible on the outset you’re asking me do I care about the fight no I don’t care about that fight I don’t care about what it means for Logan Paul and Jake Paul to box like as a boxing match I find it totally uninteresting I don’t you know we just saw Bam Bam Rodriguez is interesting right Bud Crawford is interesting tank Davis is interesting Noya in way exam these are I mean they’re pound-for-pound guys obviously but these are interesting fights to me right but that’s straight lace boxing we’re talking about ridiculous Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul level that’s the thing I find I find that I find that business model very clever and funny and interesting I don’t find the fights that come with the business model at all interesting or clever they’re just what they are so no I I can’t I mean I can’t that’s not me saying it wouldn’t be big that’s not me saying it wouldn’t be big that’s me saying do I personally care about that fight no the fight means I dude it’s the same thing with Mike Tyson and Jake Paul how good is that fight gonna be even the very best version of that fight is not going to be very good but it’s a question of what does it mean for Netflix to want to get into the fight business what would that look like what does that change what does it mean for all of us as fans or people who work in the like what does it mean when you’re having the biggest [ __ ] stream on the planet by a million miles getting into this this sport I think that that is highly interesting but the fight itself who cares no I don’t care about that I think there’s a lot that can go wrong with it meaning they don’t fight hard enough and it’s sucks or they fight too hard and it’s weird and gross um there’s a lot of ways that goes bad I just think we saw Brothers fight we saw Brothers Well Step Brothers but we saw Brothers fight in World Series of fighting Carlos Fodor and then uh sure whatever his name was I forgetting now at this point and it was dude it was let me tell you something it was awful like it damaged their family it damaged their relationship I know it was cool and interesting in the Warrior movie but that’s a [ __ ] movie like I don’t I’m not watching you know I yeah no I’m not it’s not for me I just wonder if they could really capture the imagination of people with something so weird like I mean Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul is as weird like nikisa said it f when when Ariel pushed him on the negative sides of that fight saying the age and he’s like this fight only works if Mike is this age like how do people not realize it like it only sells if Mike is this age you know what I mean like it wouldn’t work if Mike was 40 and still kind of with it but um yeah but works works is doing a lot of heavy lifting there yes it makes sense where you could do it between and make it competitive in that way but you have to fight a 58y old guy to make it competitive that’s the problem like the very logic he’s using to justify it is precisely what undercuts it all right speaking of uh to close here uh YouTube people twitch people I don’t know streamers that dude neon showed up at the Diaz Mo I’ve got I’ve got the clip do you want to see it yeah it was weird it was real weird set this up very quickly all right so neon is that dude that uh shows up publicly as a as an influencer in streamer but he looks like a little nerd and he says flamboyant things and nearly gets his ass kicked and that’s kind of what happened here with Nate Diaz I’m not kidding a first time I saw this guy I’m not even I mean I’m not calling you neon your name is Jeffrey or whatever the [ __ ] it is like you know Steve or or you know whatever uh I leg I’m not kidding I legit thought he was a make A- wish kid I’m not doing a bit I 100% thought he was but okay here’s the aftermath of so he [ __ ] around this is finding out he came up on the mic this [ __ ] Bravo the [ __ ] what did he say I blacked out what did he even say to me he was he was he was cooking for a minute okay car get in the car I’ll call I’ll call him hosit just get in the car I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry please I’m sorry all right you get the idea there BC was that was that was that neon running from the DS brothers or was that your prom date running from you I probably sounded the same I know pretty close so I didn’t set up properly that if you missed it what neon did was ask a question during the media start off with a softball like Nate who influenced you to get into boxing thing and Nate’s like yeah you know Andre Ward Roy J whatever Mike Tyson and then he’s like you know like we’ve seen of these PL it seems like a plant right he’s like hey Nate are you gonna retire after you get [ __ ] knocked out cold or something like that and then Nate obviously tore him up called him some disparaging words um it’s weird homic slurs by the way yeah while that kid was running the audio went in and out it did sound like he was sort of crying and yelling there are people that’s speculating whether that the chase was a setup I think either way it worked it brought a viral Miss to it but yeah I want nothing nothing that dude these these these screamers out there with like you know like what it what the [ __ ] did you guys lose me can you hear me yeah don’t sell out like the Metallica Black Album there L you just went all oh I don’t know what happened I think I think my camera died BC all right well that killed the show Luke it was great talking to you you know I was just going to say these guys were like discernable Talent levels I don’t know quite know what their appeal is butth there we go all right BC so let me uh I’ll leave the screen on you take us out and then I’ll close the show all right yeah thank you so much folks for dealing with us on free MK Fridays here we’re we’re giving back we love you we want to be back in the mix full MK Friday coming soon very soon uh thank you for following us you can check out our merch at Morning combat. store get the 10% off of live 10 we’re rebuilding this ship step by step Brick by Brick thank you for joining us check out by the way Diaz versus Mall 2 Last Man Standing this Saturday you can get it on fan.com ppv to Zone pay-per-view or UFC Fight Pass pay-per-view I will be part of this fantastic broadcast team it should be a fun event for the great Luke Thomas this is your boy BC signing off we’ll see you back Monday metalark Manhattan lots to get into
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Come on Ryan was clearly joking about the kkk you guys are cry baby’s cus the kkk would of killed him for being Mexican he is just saying shocking things so you cry about it and you are falling right into his trap I do feel bad for his family cus they are getting in his crosshairs and let’s be real there’s is a lot of weird stuff Muslims do like kill dogs or punish anyone who owns a dog that’s weird.
What is up with Luke and Tuporia?
Can you add timestamps
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The fact that these guys are doing free shows because the DONKS at Meadowlark don't know how to find their asses with all their hands combined, is legendary and we LOVE them for it. Thanks guys, hope ML gets their shit together
Amazing intro!
Ryan G need better people around him.
54:46 idk about the Pettis pick. Pettis has shown he does look for the way out at times when the pressure gets to be too much, and Avila has fuckin hands. Mediorce MMA fighter, but the dude can clearly box past what his record shows.
Do you think Ryan may be acting crazy to get out of a contract? Was just thinking about what Dana said about the people around d him are t lookin after him sort of thing
How can no one see Canelo is going to go after Bivol x Beterbiev winner
God I miss chapter times…
They forgot all the horrid shit Tyson Fury said.
Intro is mint
Thank yall again for the free Friday shows + giving Bam his flowers last show ❤️🔥
New intro is fire
I would have stayed there and taken the beating and later sued.
Luke Thomas v Straw man argument, name a more iconic rivalry 🔥
New intro slaps
I don’t say the hard r over grief nah fuck that guy.
Luke's rationality and wisdom is needed in combat sports. He's a national treasure
Apparently we are not allowed to hate on ilia for being a dk since there’s racism going on and we should be more mad at that 😂 luke get off your knees for ilia
Luke is unbearable in this episode
You are a true beta male 😂 Your dick must be super tiny, uhh? Gooolly, what a pussy…you're friend is a bit of a pussy too. Indifference might do you some good when it comes to social topics like the Garcia one…geeez…my ears hurt from that
Luke is the most soy beta male alive
Come on man need time stamps
As a tapia and someone from NM, Johnny's and Ryans situations are nowhere near the same thing.
Luke, NO Nate will not be putting in a top performance, this guy doesn't care and hasn't cared for years.
The idea of Sean O’Malley commentating a boxing match makes me want to unalive myself
One specific fan calls Ilia annoying. Luke then goes on to show in fact that it is he who is actually annoying-er
Pretty sure Luke has wet dreams of topuria
Mk runs the world!
Yall do sound checks before?
BC really has an inflated view of himself if he really thinks Nate wouldn’t grant him an in ring interview if he wins. Do you really think he cares about you that much just bc you slightly annoyed him in the press conference? Also, Jorge has talked too much- but that doesn’t mean he’s the one who’s promoted better. All the viral clips have been from Nate.
Ryan desperately needs AA
It’s not the time off that fans are mad about. It’s his attitude about not wanting to defend the belt because no one is “good enough.” Calling out mcgregor? When Buckley did that later on, you guys said it was wack. He’s by no means a poser but one cannot act like thanos while not wanting to fight anyone. That being said I can see how the fight hadn’t been made yet because the UFC just hasn’t put it all together yet. They need to have a venue, date, etc. and fans are just eager to watch them fight. Luke, you’re glossing over a lot of what his attitude was and how unlikeable that is to ufc fans when we’ve been conditioned to like guys who fight whoever whenever
Bryan’s audio is horrendous
Luke arguing for fighter pay..lol nobody in any major sport is consistently making day 1 mistakes. Jiri should be stoked to earn 20/20. Absolutely not athletic enough for any other sport, and just qualifies for mma
We love y’all, you guys are going out of your way to try to bring back multiple days a week and it doesn’t go unnoticed. We’re here for the long haul
Ryan Garcia to bare knuckle
Diaz Masvidal is going to be a disaster. Hopefully Masvidal changes his face
Luke taking serious Garcia moment at 26:06:
"Life has a funny way…"
BC: (nearly dies holding in Alanis Morissette 90's ref)