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– Live From Vegas (1:30)
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– Frank Joins (8:30)
– Finals (9:00)
– Saros Trade? (13:00)
– Flames Trade Up? (18:00)
– Devils (22:00)
– Stamkos (24:00)
– Guentzel (26:00)
– Panthers FA’s (27:30)
– Tanev (30:00)
– Marchessault (32:00)
– Pike Joins (38:00)
– Oliver Kylington (41:00)
– Flames Draft (45:00)
– Flames Needs (50:00)
– Boomer Jumps In (01:03:00)
– Betway (01:21:00)

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Craig Conroy Interview – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkAdbgSg7IY&t=549s
2024 NHL Mock Draft – https://youtube.com/live/v6qLgh7Gwgg?feature=share
2024 Draft Primer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gW9QQKKPAQ&t=6165s
Tij Iginla Draft Profile – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogsbx8hjUXI&t=215s
Ryan Pike – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ma1gw2f4pg&t=27s
Frank Seravalli – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ek_4wOD7M&t=74s

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[Music] [Music] [Music] oh Welcome to our coverage of the 2024 NHL draft it is barn burner it is swelteringly hot it is cira Stadium swim Jack I am home they have found me I am in my rightful place I know where I want my ashes scattered uh what an incredible setup we’ve got for the next few days as we are live in Las Vegas the host of the 2024 draft of the Calgary Flames will select second and n9th incredibly busy show we’ve got lined up Ryan Pike’s going to join us from Calgary at the end of the show as we talk all things Calgary Flames just what 48 hours and change away from them selecting potentially ninth and 28th in round number one if they don’t go ahead and add more also Frank s Val gonna join us in a matter of minutes to talk about an incredible amount of NHL gossip there are people from the NHL all around Las Vegas we got in yesterday uh it’s buzzing gossip rumors wild speculation and really just a whole lot of uncertainty once you get Beyond mlin celebrini at number one that’s just the draft never mind what’s going on with Mitch Marner and the Toronto Maple Leafs does he start the season there Utah feels like the biggest wild card out of the 32 Team league right now as they’ve got money to spend in an owner that wants the win uh in a brand new market not to mention some other incredible storylines like Stephen Stam Co not having a deal with the Tampa Bay Lighting is he headed to Market where is Jake Genta going and of course Reinhardt mour defley Maro DOI ruzi tanov Zoro lindal Jacko we got a ton to cover today this is going to be absolutely nails but but I need the update you can see behind me we have like a twostory like heaven massive sports book odds on one side games everywhere Euro Copa America Baseball odds uh behind us here what’s paint us the picture from from Calgary are you at home in the basement are you uh are you back at the studios in maralo I am at home absolute [ __ ] show around the house here as we gear up for a wedding uh I’m in the guest bedroom tons of luggage around me I’m clothes scattered everywhere so just a [ __ ] show here in Calgary weather’s not too bad a little bit cloudy but not as hot as it is in Vegas oh boy yeah we got a little update for you from Vegas this was just about 10 minutes before we jumped on air here if you’re looking at uh what the afternoon in Vegas holds in store for us hot turning into hotter and then it gets even hotter where it’s going to stay at even hotter before getting back to hot uh and yeah it’s we’re sweating in the shade here I literally ran to the shower and just soaked the mullet threw the hat back on put the shirt back on it is H quite something but everyone’s hanging out in the pool drinks gonna be cold when we’re done the show and uh I tell you what there’s not a lot of places I’d rather be right now Jackie we got this St in pretty good so yeah I’m I’m jealous the the next Barn of vacation better be back in Vegas I don’t think that’s a bad idea like no one’s ever been like yeah I’ve been to Vegas once I’m good it’s like no there’s so much to do you can never really do it all and there’s always something crazy happening here so I’m kind of with you if we do the barn burner Nation vacation Vegas this year’s got to be uh right up there I think they’ve been talk about the schedule dropping in the next week or so and if we get that going on that will uh allow us to dive into some other schedules when does NFL go do we have some other events we could do could we tied into two games one weekend flight hotels join us it was an absolute Banger at mullet Arena uh back in January and I know that original Crop of what 28 guys or whatever it was uh they’re gonna be a lot of renewal from that crew so I’m kind of with you uh there’s also always music and stuff going on Jack now you’ve been getting photos people think they’re spotting me in the wild here I don’t want to make this about me but I I do have to just sort of tamper down some of these rumors there are pictures floating around this is not me Jack okay now there there may be music festivals going on in Vegas but God that does look like me and there was a couple hours of yesterday I don’t really well I’m pretty sure that’s not me that’s that’s that’s where I’ll leave that one as uh yeah it’s always going on in Vegas Jack we we we hit the felt last night a very very productive night uh for team Nations Network so that’s the update here from Vegas uh we’re awaiting our NHL Insider we also have our betway bets the day we will get Ryan Pike in here to discuss the job that Craig Conroy’s done uh but fascinated about where we’re at with uh Frank zarra Val’s thoughts on the goalie Market we haven’t talked with him since the markstrom trade never mind uh the I guess subsequent lenus olark deal and I think it it sort of was a bit of pause for flam fan say hang on okay New Jersey was talking about 10 we didn’t get that everyone there’s Holtz that didn’t happen either what the hell’s going on here and then you see the return berin alar who won the vzna trophy two years ago and I think maybe Flames fans are thinking you know what maybe that wasn’t as uh as as one-sided the trade as it looked at first glance maybe that’s just what the market is for NHL net minders and never mind guys that are 34 years old uh Jacob marshan of course is that heading into uh his first season with the New Jersey Devils uh in terms of scheduling here’s what we can tell you about what’s going on here uh we ran the draft this morning Jack that seemed to have a bit of interest uh if you wanted to give a little summary there what stood out to you when cam Robinson of elite prospects and Stephen Alis from daily Faceoff uh took turns gming round one here uh in a in a sphere mock draft for uh this summer yeah I think the thing that stood out I was in the chat while the mock draft was playing live and ainla going four I don’t think anyone really was expecting that everyone wants ainla here in a that’s that’s what we’re all pushing for but he seems to be going pretty high in these mock drafts so four to what was it Columbus Columbus were a little shocked to see that this morning I was ready for there to be like this oh my gosh one more one two more he keeps sliding like how long it just ended really early it wasn’t dramatic at all um I believe our insid of Frank s Valley is ready Jack I don’t know if you I can’t see him on my own if you can let’s bring him in let’s bring Frankie our NHL Insider brought to you by horse racing Alberta exciting live standard bread racing every Friday at 2:15 and Saturday at 12:45 at Century Downs just north of the city on Highway 2 check out the horses.com for more as we bring Frank in on a sweltering uh Vegas summer day Frankie how are you buddy you got in late last night you’ve been traveling like a a doorto door salesman the last two months are you doing okay you surviving this yeah I’m good hey I’m inside so um I no complaint at all and great view of uh across town here of the strip and the Bellagio fountain behind me I have absolutely zero complaints yeah and I I I guess the offer was extended you could come out and sweat with us in the Sun but you’ve de you’ve decided to stay in your air condition sweet look I I’m not built for this weather I don’t know if you are there’s not enough booze or uh water for me to be out there so um I think I’m perfectly content here working on my trade targets board love it yeah it’s an incredibly busy time I guess just a really quick thought you were back and forth covering that final one for the ages I know there was a lot of angst in Calgary uh given the Rivalry with the Oilers but if you strip away all that just a classic that I don’t think anyone’s going to forget anytime soon you got to put it amongst your best finals you’ve seen in your life I’m guessing it’s yeah it’s the best final I’ve seen in my life I think that was number 15 for me wow it’s I don’t like I I said this on the morning of game seven and I don’t it’s not hyperbole like I don’t know that I’ll ever cover a more consequential NHL game so much on the line yeah historic comeback that they were looking at and the reason I said NHL and qualified it is because there’s you know probably some pretty good Olympic battles to come between the US and Canada yeah I am excited about that we got about six months to get geared up for those so we won’t waste any time on that there I know you’re busy uh you’re talking trade targets so why don’t we start there I feel like uh marner’s the big name but boy it just feels like the tip of the iceberg is all of a sudden there’s a lot of cap space for teams now it doesn’t mean people have room but I expect a lot of maneuvering between now and and July one which is just Monday your thoughts yeah I mean look it’s been a little bit quiet to start I mean I know we had a couple things that happened the last few days more on the minor end everyone that I’ve talked to this morning to this point uh upwards of half the league already um they were they said it’s remarkable to them sort of how quiet it’s been I think a lot of people are focused on some final meetings with the draft and trying to play out the draft board as much as they can um and that said uh there are some really big names on this list Marty Nas you mentioned Mitch Marner what about Jacob Chan in Ottawa like there’s quite a few things uh quite a few dominoes still to fall that I think when you look at um how this week goes we didn’t talk outs we didn’t talk qualifying offers the draft table is is crazy there’s a lot of lot of things in the air at this exact period in time so one of the areas that we did get some clarity was in the goal tending Market New Jersey goes out and get Jacob markstrom next year’s first which given where New Jerseys was in the cup odds and where they are for next year you’d expect that to be somewhere between pick 20 and 32 uh they also get Kevin Ball a 6 fo6 stay-at-home defensive first defenseman who’s 24 years of age and then we saw the Lena soulmark deal where the brunes ate uh the remaining four years of Unis Corpus salo’s deal at least 75% of the money of that uh and they also got a pick but it was late in the 20s is that just a reflection of where NHL organizations are at right now with goalies I feel like everyone was a little let down Ottawa didn’t have to give up number seven New Jersey didn’t have to give up number 10 is that just what goalies are worth these days it’s kind of what goalies have been worth forever I mean teams are not willing to pay High asset acquisition costs they’re not willing to pay for the most part unless you’re in a very small circle of top end goalies high-end money on salary cap that’s just not how it works it speaks to the volatility of the position it speaks to the fickle nature um of the position and also really how readily available these guys are I mean we’re going to have more goalies available and we do at this exact moment in time than we do spots available in the annual game of goal tending musical chair so think about what took place in the last week you have markstrom you have olark you have keer that really only leaves a few teams that are looking to improve their goal tending situation you’ve got Toronto you’ve got um Ottawa obviously fixed theirs you’ve got Detroit uh you’ve got maybe Colorado it’s not a very long list and a couple teams are going to be left holding the bag saying hey I have someone here look at Minnesota Philip guson that they’re not really gener a ton of interest on that I think could be an impact piece on a low acquisition cost relative and also low on your cap hit that you could actually significantly improve your goal tending situation year-over-year without having to do a ton of crazy heavy lifting it’s funny because uh like a year ago we talk about it in Canada this great Dro of net mining like oh Aiden Hill would be the guy at the Olympics now it’s oh Stuart Skinner would be the guy at the Olympics and maybe those are great goalies maybe it’s a reflection of just how volatile the position is how thin it is in Canada but it really is a flavor of the month position you you could have the greatest pedigree or or be a nobody and it you get hot for a month it doesn’t really matter you can you can be the Difference Maker for a team do you believe Nashville is is seriously looking to move UC Saros or is all this name in in trade rumor stuff s from the deadline through to this offseason maybe just a bit of uh leverage or or I guess gamesmanship as they enter contract negotiation we haven’t really seen someone like asov come in without a mentor of sorts and SOS himself spent years mentoring under Rene what do you see Nashville doing you know it’s funny I I hate how this sounds when I say it but he’s such a straightup guy that I don’t know that there’s a ton of gamesmanship in Barry trots to play it that way I think they’re really torn I think they authentically view UC Saros as the backbone of this team and he’s been that and could be that for their foreseeable future at the same time they also know that a scar off’s come is coming to your point and then throw in the fact that Soros needs a new contract what does that next deal look like as the cap gets its first meaningful increase in five years what we’re talking about is a goalie Who’s potentially somewhere between eight and a half to10 million a year are you willing to pay that type of price for UC Soros as good as he is I’m not sure that I am as much as I like him and I’m probably less inclined to do so given the fact that they have a scar off there waiting in the wings is it possible to pair a scar off with pick another guy that’s on the market this summer Lauren brasis and go into next season that way for a team that isn’t probably viewed at League wide as an authentic Stanley Cup Contender to me I’d much rather do that than devote eight to 10% of my cap space to a goalie who’s gonna be on the other side of 30 soon enough and is by the way undersized at that so I’m not slagging sorrow I’m just outlining the situation for you and explaining how difficult of a spot the FRS are in yeah well it’s yeah and it’s just such a volatile position I we’re talking about a guy that I believe is top six in vzna voting the last four years and it’s like yeah we’d rather not pay him because who knows we could get the same production from some nobody’s maybe talut askov could give you the same it’s what would you do I you know what I I love what Saros has been but I feel like if they felt like he was their most important player he’d be locked up by now or they will lock him up but it’s just goalies man I mean you the smartest data people out there you know maybe the Carolinas of the world like no one puts less of a premium on spending on that position because it’s just so volatile maybe that’s the smart play is just never to buy good years always bet on Bounce backs and and Chase value well and if that’s the case it’s askarov an AET right just just hope that you as you acknowledge that you’re not going to spend as much that you know you’re not going to get Elite top end goal tending but that you could get maybe something reasonably close to it or maybe even just League average or better that that’s enough to be a playoff team and give yourself a shot and devote your core towards better defenseman and better goal attending you noted you’re working on your trade targets board Marner is obviously a big name you mentioned NIS which has been out there for a while he needs a contract uh as an RF Chan is a guy they went and added and now suddenly there’s too many guys that play his side of the defense that and they’re moving him again it kind of feels like the debret thing I know there’s a change in GM but man ottawa’s turning a buck into 75 cents here on some of these trades what what else is do you expect to will get traction line clearly is a name we’ve heard zis doesn’t feel like a long-term fit for Pat ver and even John Gibson is is a guy that’s been rumored for a while but maybe just makes too money to too much money to move yeah I mean I think they’re just one of the teams that’s in a really interesting spot um Anaheim in terms of what they’ve got coming another number three overall pick this year that you know all of a sudden it’s it’s really not going to be very long with the collection of talent that they’ve gotten um to to be an impact team in the west it’s a couple years away but when they get there they’re probably going to be pretty good odds would indicate that’s the case um other guys on the trade targets board um by the way I’m I’m also fascinated with this is one of the items that I was just typing on is how many of the top 10 picks do we see move depending on how that board shakes out like I think when you have the Flames at nine depending on the way the first three picks go I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that the Flames try and leverage whatever they can to to move up and slide up to whether it’s Columbus at four or whoever is at five Montreal uh to really make things interesting it’s it’s fascinating because I I’ve been saying don’t trade up you might get your favorite guy that’s not celebrating sliding to you at nine anyway but the closer we get to this draft the more I’m of the mind that TJ ginin will not be there there for them at nine if that’s who they like and I look at Utah and Ottawa as teams that are huge wild cards here they’re not necessarily teams that need to use those picks they’re teams that are trying to I guess fast forward their roster into more competitive Windows right no I was going to say I think Anaheim is the biggest wild card okay so let’s play it out this way and this is pure hypothetical let’s say that celebrini goes one and Lev shof goes two do the Anaheim Ducks take demidov at three and if they don’t does all hell break loose at four yeah I think demidov could absolutely slide and I could see Anaheim saying we have a very nice stable of prospects we’ll take the 6 foot s smooth skating mean defenseman he seems to fit Pat verb’s type of of team does he not that’s how I see it which is why I’m saying maybe it’s not and I’m not saying they don’t like him of course they do and they know him better than anyone but maybe it’s not tijin that they’d be up to try and get yeah it it is fascinating what’s going to happen here right after San Jose the draft starting at two sounds crazy but I believe we’re there what what about Ottawa and Utah they do feel like teams to me that we don’t have a book on because one suddenly is very eager to spend and has all this cap space and the other it’s they thought they’d be good already I don’t know how much patience they have for another kid for two years to Bloss him into a player so to speak in Ottawa yeah I don’t think they have much patience for that and it might be five years that’s how long it takes sure um I I think they’re in go mode I think the the Buffalo Sabers are I think the Detroit Red Wings are all these teams that for whatever reason have kind of been on the same timeline where the last three years we’ve been asking the question in September have they done enough to put themselves in the conversation for the playoffs the wings falling just short in the East this year on quite literally the final day of the season and the sends being out of it in early November along with the Sabers like there there are really tough decisions to make and you’re talking about teams that um have been pretty patient throughout this process that not advocating or saying that it’s time to throw caution to the win it’s just you can’t then go about rebuilding the rebuild and that’s kind of what the Sabres are looking at um if they don’t start to ultimately make progress when it comes to the sends they’ve got to figure out their defense core we talked about Chan and how they can’t pay 24 million bucks to the left side of their defense Steve stos just recently said in the last hour or so that Thomas Shabbat is not in the mix and then we’ve got um you know a number of other you know teams out there Buffalo included Detroit’s in the market for a goalie and a defenseman they’ve been I think in conversation with Anaheim the last couple days about Gibson there’s there’s a lot happening what about New Jersey they said t in play and I sort of feel the same way about um them as as I would about what you said with Ottawa and Detroit they might have been the biggest disappointment last year because they came in at top five Stanley Cup odds in the fall now they’ve got markom is is that 10 a big chip to add a final piece in their mind be it a defenseman or an impact forward it’s hard to say final piece for a team that didn’t make the playoffs right I mean what talking about is a team that has three really good young defensemen in Nemitz and Hughes and also Sheamus Casey who they got to turn pro they’ve got some of the best young talented forwards in the game in Hughes and brat and heer they had an unlucky year with injury with douy Hamilton missing the bulk of it with the torn Peck muscle and you would think that all of those things plus now finally for the first time in Tom Fitzgerald’s tenure solving the goal tending situation with markstrom and and Allen like there’s probably out of 82 nights they’re gonna feel really good about whoever is in their net for the bulk of them um there’s I don’t like they’re still trying to do everything so in some ways I’d say you’re right in that it doesn’t really necessarily make sense for the current build of their team to to hang on to that if they could get an impact piece but then I’m also looking at it from another perspective of look at the teams that have hit on their first round picks and you say what could an impact player at 10 do for us three years from now that might take us and and that player might be the final piece it’s just do you have the patience to get to that point when it matters okay Monday feels like uh Lighty years away in terms of the things we have to get done we’ve got the draft round one Friday round damage you’re gonna do to your liver between now and then well we’ll see it was a decent start last night that as long as you keep winning on the blackjack tables they keep bringing you drinks Frank I made out like a bandit if you factored into free beverages last night uh but Monday’s a long way away for GMS there’s a lot of decisions to be made before then what what do you expect to happen with Stam Co is he actually gonna get to Market I still have a hard time believing it I don’t think he’s been outrageous in his in his ask I don’t I don’t know what it is but I’m told it’s it’s certainly within the realm of possibility like he’s not going into this saying I need to be an eight and a half million dollar player at this point in his career he’s everything to that franchise he’s been when you think lightning he’s on their Mount Rushmore yeah I just don’t know how they don’t get something done what I would look at is a guy like Tanner Jan know as they try and clear out some cap space he’s got his no trade clause that kicks in on Monday I believe it’s a 10 team no trade that makes all the sense in the world to me uh to to be considering a guy to potentially move out to create space just to keep stos I think you have to find a way to do it well and he’s been tied to Calgary Al be it just in rumors but but what are you getting in in Jano because clearly it’s not guy Tampa thought they were trading for or he wouldn’t be on the block again it’s a good question I don’t know what he is obviously he’s a big body guy that had one magical season that has really been unable to put it all together and do it in a consistent way since then I love his story as as the Oxbo Ox um I I think he’s someone that has you know potential but did he find lightning in a bottle one year in Nashville that he’s not able to ultimately replicate again and as the money continues to go up it you know it’s harder and harder I think for some guys to deliver and get back to that same level again and I think those are fair questions to ask about Jano and and not only that the lightning gave up so much to get him second third fourth fifth and sixth round pick I think it was like it was it was crazy at the time people’s Jaws were on the floor that it hasn’t worked out I it’s a really tough Asset Management thing to turn around and then flip him now if that ends up being the case so stamco maybe the biggest name but is there a bigger market for a guy Than Jake gensel who seems to fit everywhere oh he’d be great Detroit he’d be great in Vancouver oh the Carolina would love to have him I’m sure Crosby wouldd love to have him back what is that the biggest market for gensel right now I I’d say between gensel and some of the top end defenseman like Matt this is going to surprise you but Matt Roy coming out of LA or you know maybe you could make the case for Chandler Stevenson but I’d say in terms of interest at that level of dollars it’s it’s borderline unmatched when you consider where gensel is and you look at his productivity his consistency this is a guy that you know you can kind of while he’s in the lineup you can reliably expect him to score at a 40 goal Pace um he’s 14th in the league in goals over the last six years he’s 27th in points 20 something in points per game I mean this is a top 30 player um right now that you’re looking at that changes scenery everyone said oh he only does it because of Sid he goes to Carolina and scores well North at a point per game pace and this a guy that’s also led a postseason in goals and has a Stanley Cup and by the way doesn’t have a ton of wear on that tread on his tires because yeah was a little bit of a late bloomer not making it to the NHL until 22 or 23 uh notable ufas on the Cup champion Panthers this could get interesting they might be partying right through to July one some of these guys and I suppose that’s why you have agents but uh could you handicap oel Montour and then the 59 goal man Sam Reinhardt well they’re obviously saying goodbye to a few of these guys the question is who and how painful is it goingon to be for Florida at the same time I look at their situation and say what opportunity they have to really strengthen and rebalance that team’s cap table and defense Corp um like Reinhardt it’s such an interesting case now that they’ve won he’s been asking a lot I think they put a significant deal on the table already at eight years times nine and a half million bucks I think that was out there months ago the fact that he didn’t sign it he said all the right things he’s he’s a really smart guy he wants to be there maybe the smartest hockey player I’ve ever covered um and he seems to want to be there they seem to want to have him but I wonder if the calculus changes for both sides now instead of leaving on money on the table if you’re him because of the no state tax thing and I know that’s not really leaving money on on the table but I wonder like what is do do you ABS want to stay and try and go for a third straight Stanley Cup Final do you want to go back to back you want to be competitive for sure but you’ve got lots of different options on the table now and your name is going to be with those guys forever and similarly from a team perspective I’m you know I’m sure you watch him score the game-winning goal in game seven and you’re like yeah I really want to have this guy but are you willing to commit such an exorbitant part of your salary cap to him or are you better off trying to get three guys or four guys to fill out the potential you know significant a that you’re you’re allotting to one guy it really depends I could see it from any number of angles and and that’s not to sound polanish when I answer it it’s just I wonder what winning does to that equation yeah it’s a fascinating discussion he’s also a guy that struggled mightily and and and you know if you could place a value on winning versus just the bag Sam’s seen that too I I it’s it’s fascinating he can pick really he can have he can try to get it all I suppose um we know there’s significant interest in Chris tanov and a Dallas reunion is it just trying to fit him under the cap is that the challenge there or uh is he happy to feel the uh I guess the the the significant number of suitors July one I think he’s another one of those guys that’s looking for a blend he certainly doesn’t want to be underpaid and is probably not going to be taking the hometown discount um so that said how do you find a way to marry what your needs are and what the market is willing to bear with a team that has a true chance to win the Stanley Cup and I just thought he was such a good fit yeah can’t really Envision them going out to try and find a better version of Chris tanv because he brought such a different element to the stars but at the same time I think No One’s Gonna Be shocked when I say this I also really wonder about how well a guy like tan of AG is just given wear and tear on his body and that you know we saw in the playoffs hurt again battles through it but wasn’t as effective against the Oilers in the you know the bulk of that series because he’s obviously playing at 70% so much of it is to admire but it’s also to his own detriment right and so yeah um I think he makes sense to stay but I think more than anything he’s probably gonna need a little bit of term which always gets dangerous at his age yeah that’s totally fair I know even just approaching the trade deadline Flames fans were cringing as he seemingly every second or third game would head down the tunnel again and you’re like is this the one that turns the asset to zero I can’t imagine trying to you know model in his aging curve with the the way he plays also knowing that he’s different than whatever else they have in Dallas he played really well when he was healthy and really it and wants to be there like he’s checking so many boxes for you but it it puts your heart in your throat when you go to put pen to paper on a deal like that totally uh our cab driver last night really needs some good Insight on this one Frank uh Jonathan marsho the original uh you know castoffs of that first year Vegas golden knights team he’s a UFA can they make room for him or is it about finding his fit elsewhere because Vegas has just been ruthless with guys when they think they’re teeing off on the back nine they are trying to do everything that they can to keep him I think this is one that’s probably gonna go down to the wire they’re trying to find coins and couch cushions to be able to keep this guy Chandler Stevenson is as good as gone a tough choice for them but compared to marsho not really as consequential in their eyes 42 goals season for another guy that’s aging really well um and marsho hits free agency at you know how many guys have a career year like that at that age um really impressive stuff and they recognize his value it’s just and they get close that is that he also is one of those guys doesn’t have to happy yeah last couple for you I know uh they loved zadorov in Vancouver but he absolutely wants to get paid if it’s not Vancouver he’ll be under his sixth team which is wild to me but also speaks to how you can dream on that uh set of skills that he’s got is it simply gensel Domino Falls they go from there because I think they liked him but I think they’d rather have if they had to pick one of the other it’s it’s given the money to Gall right yeah I think that’s their priority in pecking order I think they can have all those things I think they can find a way to have gensel to resign zerov to find a deal for Tyler Meyers and to give whatever’s left over to H arur shilov in net um but in the middle that involves absolutely finding a Suitor and taker for ilam mckv right they can’t make the math work in that equation without uh moving him they’ve circled back to teams I think in the last few days to try I don’t think the Wallman situation and that trade help yeah but nonetheless they are a team that um is certainly trying to be as aggressive as they have been for the last year can they pull it all off I I actually think they can interesting hey man thanks for doing this you’ve been run through the gauntlet here I hope you’re going to get some sleep and I also hope that you don’t get some sleep so we can catch up and I can see this uh Floyd Mayweather Suite that you’ve got going on down at the cosmo dude just stay away from me I don’t need to get sucked into the Pinder Vortex tonight come on you you left a bunch of chips on the table not coming out last night man I’m telling you that’s I’m all right with that this is day 59 on the road since the playoffs started and I’m I’m I’m go I’m going downhill on a scooter with one wheel I’m just trying to make it to the Finish Line all right buddy well before you go we just want to tell everyone Monday is Canada Day will be off but you will not that’ll be the end of the road for you I hope in terms of getting on some vacation immedi after your free agency special I will encourage everyone to jump on 9 till noon mountain time to check out yourself Tyler remchuk and the rest of the crew as you weigh in on all those signings we expect to pour in thanks so much for doing this buddy I know it’s been a serious haul for you and I do hope to see you even if I can’t sneak a few beers down your gullet yep sounds good we’ll find a way to connect I’m sure all right thanks Frankie there’s Frank s valy our NHL Insider brought to you by horse racing Alber reminder you can catch exciting live standard bread racing every Friday at 2:15 and Saturdays at 12:45 at Century Downs for more information go to the horses.com okay boy a lot there um and again if if Frank sounds busy and we started talking about all the layers involved with the draft here we start talking about the incredible number of players that either are seeking trades or teams would like to move or we just think change of scenery candidates we even get get into rer mcor here uh the highly touted Jets prospect that uh after being selected in the first round and deciding yeah maybe I’m not going to go to Winnipeg I don’t know that I agreed with their philosophy in the spring when they said yeah we’ll sign you but we’re not going to guarantee a playing time there’s a lot of irons in the fire on the trade side then quickly you’ve got the Monday UFA thing I mean it is a wild five six days here for NHL general managers I mean absolute chaos talking to some people that uh are in upper management around the league I mean it has been uh it’s it’s a lot it’s a ton going on it’s this compressed amount of time where the finals just ended so your buyout window I think probably only opened what tomorrow or today and then it’s right into the draft round one and two and then free agency should be uh incredibly chaotic uh let’s get to our next guest we do that for our good friends at outdoor dentl as uh if you’re ready to experience Dentistry with no needles and no drills No Stress Check out outdoor Dental it’s outdoor dot Dental they’ve got the ca laser treatment an incredible solution uh for not just Dental things but how about people that uh well have snoring issues you can do two 15minute treatments to increase the tension in the soft pallet that’ll reduce your snoring it’s a non-surgical and pain-free way uh to make a huge impact in your sleep not to mention your partner’s sleep next to you for more information go to outdoor yord dental.com let’s bring in our managing editor and head honcho of flames nation.com complished to this point what the next 48 72 hours look like and then what you expect to see Monday in free agency well I mean you know Craig’s probably like a kid in the candy Story I mean the the the club has been dealing with the flat cap as everyone else has been pretty much since like 2019 and this year it’s jumping to 88 million and it coincides with the Flames getting a lot of fairly big contracts off their books and as a result you know as we sit right now if you look at the the guys who are basically shins for the NHL roster he’s got 24 million bucks to work with and what are the big pieces for him to get done he has to negotiate some kind of contract with Justin wolf and I can’t imagine wolf will be terribly expensive considering he’s played 18 games the NHL so that’s probably not terribly expensive and then you got to Hash something out with Oliver Shillington and then you basically have at that point probably what 19 20 million something in that range to work with yeah I would think so they’re what 23 and change right now they’ve got almost a full roster you put Schilling in 10 in there I feel like that’s probably the group of defenseman you move forward with maybe there’s room for another four but they swimming in cap space Pike yeah and I think that’s it gives them the ability to do a lot of different things they could be a broker I mean we just you know we saw you know the we just saw San Jose get a pretty decent defenseman and Jake Walman and get a second round pick for their troubles because Detroit has other things they want to do with their cap space so I think there’s going to be a lot of teams out there that look at a team like Calgary as a potential fit for something like that maybe maybe even not now maybe it’s something that they they deal with at the trade deadline because you know if you look the crystal ball uh you guys have been talking about on the show for a while uh you know Sharon govic mapani and kzo all on expiring deals I don’t know if they’re all going to be here long term so you’re looking at potentially at least one of those guys being moved by or before the trade deadline so there’s a lot of different things that Conway could do and I think you know we we’ve talked about you know the challenges of for last better term shoveling out the burn after a contention window closes and you know Craig has basically had a lot of messes to clean up since he got into the big chair and I think now you could take a look at what they have and go okay there’s a lot of flexibility here that they didn’t have before and especially going into this weekend you got nine draft picks you got six first round picks in the next three drafts and you have a lot of ability to do things you probably could not have done in a different situation so I’ll thre this two ways on one hand I would not have put any money down that Oliver Shillington and the Calgary Flames would be six days away from free agency and no deal would be in place and then on the other hand chatting with Craig last week which is up on our YouTube page and we T tacked on the end of Monday show it just feels like this is a matter of terms and not if Oliver schillton is still expected to get signed but boy Ryan this is taking way more time than we thought it was going to take I’ll say this what is Oliver Shillington and I I mean no disrespect to the player but for a guy that’s basically missed two almost two years of professional hockey and he he looked really good when he came in in January and I think reason we can reasonbly surmise that that’s you know him joining the season in a less than ideal circumstance midseason without a full training camp with that’s probably the that’s probably the floor for Oliver Shillington the floor over Shillington is he’s a pretty good third paing defenseman maybe maybe a decent second pairing guy but what do you pay him when he hasn’t played in a while and you’re trying to figure out how to project him and you’re trying to figure out how he fits in the long term because if you’re the Calgary Flames you don’t really necessarily want to be signing Oliver Shillington and then doing this dance again you would love to lock him in at a number but it’s got to be a number that makes sense but you know talking to folks around the team and around the league uh you know I wouldn’t I wouldn’t frame anything as contentious the the Flames have a lot of admiration for him as a person and as a player and I think that showed through the last two three years in terms of how they’ve gone about handling a situation and I would say that that feeling is mutual I think there’s a lot of respect from shillington’s camp in terms of the Flames could would would have been well within the rights to be more open with what was going on with him but they wanted to respect the players privacy and I think that goes a long way not just with Shillington but with players around the league that might be considering the Calgary Flames but again you know he’s he’s a unicorn he’s you know 20 27 turning 28 he doesn’t have a lot of miles on him because the the minutes that he he or the the years that he missed so he could potentially still have upside that they haven’t touched yet but it’s just a question of how do you project that yeah I agree I I loved him with Chris Tana but all of a sudden you’re talking that was year one of darl Sutter his first full season that’s a while ago and I didn’t love him with Rasmus Anderson in the role they were put in last year but it was also a tougher year for Rasmus and I don’t know that he’s going to be on a defensive matchup pair if you told me Chris was there I’d say oh he’s a second pair of defenseman Ryan but given what he’s got to work with on his uh right side I I’m not so sure what he is and I think that’s probably why it’s hard to price because if he’s just Harding fast to second pair guy you know what that’s worth and well if he’s just a five and we can use him on our second power play unit well you kind of got a an idea a ballpark of what that’s worth I think that’s probably the Gap we’re in isn’t it yeah and you know looking at from the the his his Camp’s perspective if if you were coming to me and say hey I know you’ve gone through like an absolute [ __ ] show in your life the last two years you’re probably looking for some stability one to a one-ear deal that that probably doesn’t really resonate so I think if I’m him I’m probably looking for a longer term deal if I’m the Flames I’m probably looking for a longer term deal too at the right number and I think you know you want to make sure that you’re allowing yourself some flexibility and I I think fact I think the fact that the Flames have as much cap space as they do helps because they have the ability to roll the dice on him but I think also I think listening to what Craig was telling you guys and in conversations I’ve had with Craig over the last year I don’t think they they’re if you behave as if you’re a kid in a candy store through cap space pretty soon you’re gonna not going to have any c space so I think they’re operating you know the the the analytics Department the the the stats Department that Chris snow built is really dialed into basically everything the club does I think they have trade value projections for every single player in the organization and I think they have cap projections for every single player in the organization and I think even if you have $24 million in cap space you have to act as if you have basically none and operate like that because you know if you blow all the cap space in July guess what you don’t have it in March and I think that’s the mindset they’re operating with yeah I I certainly think they might try to add some pieces but there’s no way I Envision them heading into the season uh with with anything but tons of cap space to still have that flexibility that you spoke of that has been so um I guess rare in the last uh decade for the club uh okay so Friday they have pick number nine they have pick number 28 that’s right now they also have six other picks in the first four rounds two in the first two in the second two in the fourth not to mention two first next year two first in 2026 even after surrendering one to Montreal in 2025 uh what are your expectations for Conroy Friday night is second full draft as general manager of the Flames it certainly isn’t I’m ready for all kinds of surprises and plot twists and this guy’s not supposed to slide this far I can’t believe this guy’s available I mean I think it’s going to be wild Friday night yep and you know hearing Frank you know throw out the idea that the Flames might entertain trading up I wouldn’t rule anything out with the Flames with the way this first round looks you know if a player Falls to you that you love that looks like he’s sliding they have the ability to stand Pat and get a good player and you know the way even this the way this first round is set up there’s about a dozen to 15 guys sort of in that top ledge and then there’s a drop off and then a bit more of a drop off after about 2021 and so if you’re the flames you know you’re thinking man you could slide back and gain a pick and still get somebody like maybe you use that 28th pick and something else to move up into that above the 21 ledge and then get somebody in sort of that second ledge maybe you can move up a little bit higher uh and like I said they they have those ufas potentially you know we we I think uh andreani was on Frank’s trade board so I don’t you know I’d be I’m going into this weekend going I don’t really know what to expect and that kind of excites me because I think they have a lot of things they’ feel comfortable doing if the price is right the other thing they have is they have a need everywhere I mean I think goalie is the only spot I don’t expect them to to make some serious waves Pike and I mean they like wolf they’ve got to give him some time to to see what he is uh it’s also not a great draft for goalies you might not see one in the first three rounds um but you have great need to find top four defensemen top pair guys you have no real Dynamic game-changing Winger yet maybe Coronado is one and you certainly don’t have a young franchise center it’s a really nice spot to be in at nine because whatever slides is g to be something you need whether that’s a Winger a centerman or a defenseman yeah I think you know this is the the type of draft where I don’t know if there’s sort of a lot of truly Elite or quasi Elite level guys outside of the first two or three but there’s a lot of good players that are going to be available like I mean just looking at the the various mock drafts uh there’s guys that’ll be available at nine that some guys some teams some draft rankers will have in the top five or top six like there’s going to be a lot of chaos and you know even at 28 I mean the Flames are probably going to get somebody they really like at 28 uh there’s you know we we just posted our our annual aggregate rankings at the at the site and there’s probably I’d say I don’t know 40 close to 30 close to 40 players that have gotten first round consideration by multiple major draft rankers which means if you’re the flame sitting at 41 you’re gonna get somebody that that you or someone smart that’s not you thinks is a first round caliber talent and you know that’s that’s the the the a the beauty of this year’s draft and B the beauty of having so many picks you’re going to be able to go further down and you know you’re you’re probably pretty happy with guys that you pick you know well into the third and fourth rounds we’re going to hear we’ll have we’re sitting there on Saturday we’ll have heard of some of these guys taking the third and fourth rounds because that’s how deep this draft class is in sort of the the second and third levels do you have a a dream boat of a guy for the Flames out there is there one I mean the obvious off Thea storyline is TJ ginla but he’s certainly not the only Dynamic player that could be available them at nine uh is there one where you’re like oh boy that certainly would really help turn around this transition from rebuild into competitive play one of those defensemen I I know I know the I think I think Steven Ellis put it really well in his draft rankings calling Sam Dickinson uh from London the quote unquote safe pick but Sam Dickinson like Sam Dickson is just really good at everything and if you’re a Flames club that has a lot of the some stay-at-home guys in your system and some really high-end offensive guys that might need someone to watch their back a bit defensively Dickinson can play with anybody because he’s really well-rounded uh you you know so I think if you can if you’re the flames you know you’re not going to get leinoff you’re not going to get you know demov I I don’t I I have I’m nervous about silia just because I don’t know where what his offensive ceiling is but you know if you can get Zan perek if you can get you know Z boam if you can get Sam Dickinson one of those three guys if you know fa failing s you know TJ ginla Landing somewhere else if you get one of those three defensemen you’re probably going to leave that first round going okay we we we filled a need pretty well yeah I’m with you and uh it’s funny because uh we we had Stephen Ellis on our mock draft that ran this morning and it was Sam Dickinson that went to the Flames at number nine and he also said he W is considered a safe pick as you know but he said Evan buard was considered that safe pick too and then all of a sudden it took time but when everything clicked there’s a hell of a ceiling there like for all the success Sam Dickinson had people don’t think he’s a dynamic thinker of the game yet and that really only speaks to that this might be an incredibly high ceiling selection for the Flames if he’s available yeah and I’ll I’ll point out one more guy uh we talk about TJ ginla being potentially a fantastic story uh Michael ha from the Chicago steel he’s a center uh same same system that produced uh uh Matt Coronado uh he’s one of those guys that he he’ll he’s looking like he’ll go somewhere in the late teens like 18 19 20 I’ve seen some some lists have him you know just after the Flames pick uh but you know if if you’re the flames and maybe you don’t get the guy you really love maybe you look at a tradeback scenario and see if you can slide back a couple picks gain a a second or third rounder and get Michael H because you know big Center Dynamic great personal story he’s you know he’s dealt with a lot of adversity off the ice between injuries and some family tragedies but he’s you know he got the character box ticked he got the dynamic play ticked he plays a position of need and he’s from a USHL team and this this deal that you know outside of the maybe the London nights is probably the best producer of NHL ready talent in North America geez interesting uh can’t wait for you to get down here and cover it in a greater length Pike one final one for you what do you expect July one are we going to see some s significant dollars uh on a guy for the Flames that might stabilize an area of the roster are we going to see that quad around the edges work are we going to see Craig Connor I put the phone on mute and just smile ear to ear and wait for GMS to call to get them to help them out of pickles I think a little of everything I I think you’re probably looking to see if you can you know add some center help uh you know you I like I like Connor Zari at Center and I think long term he might be that but you probably want to have someone to insulate him a bit potentially and someone to Mentor him a bit potentially uh I think you know I I don’t know if they’re going to add much in the wings at the NHL level but maybe some guys like if you look at the the depth charts you know they’re probably losing Ben Jones uh from the Wranglers to free agency they probably want to grab some Center depth there uh you know they have some young guys in their system they want to give some reps to but I think they also want to provide some uh some insulation and you know at the at the AHL level I mean you know you look at the NHL their goalies are a guy who’s played 18 NH Shell Games and a guy with a bad hip who just came off major surgery so you probably want to go out and spend some money on getting a third guy to insulate volter aatu a bit and give him a bit of Runway and so you know if you’re the Flames I don’t think you NE need to you know burn through your cap space but I could see them you know dropping a good 8 to 10 million bucks here and there just to sort of fill positions of need and I think they also have the ability to help other teams get creative I think they could be a banker and you know they’re they’ve done a lot of a lot of very nice work with the last little while creating that flexibility and it’s going to be very interesting to see when they exploit it great stuff Pike do appreciate it uh when do you get down here and uh how much I guess suntan lotion can you bring I I I’m hiding in the shade but at some point I will have to face the sun I need help I need your help oh I’m uh I’m gonna die out there it’s uh I I’m always struck at the humidity and it’s like s you know it’s like sitting in a convection oven but yeah I I uh I’m supposed to land at uh I think 10: a.m on Thursday and I uh much like Frank’s strategy to avoid getting suuck into the Pender Vortex is being at a completely different Hotel I uh I insulate myself a little bit more I put an international border between us for a few days and then I go down so the I think the between how busy we’ll be with uh the draft and all the other stuff we got going on I think the your ability to destroy my life and liver diminished not negated completely but a little bit diminished it’s about mitigating risk that’s what it is Pike and I I appreciate you doing that thanks so much for joining us here and I can’t wait to get you down here it is like walking into an oven like Jack if you if you ever like oh like the uh the appetizer like the potatoes are done okay but I’m not done on the barbecue okay just put the oven on low and leave the potatoes in like that’s all of Vegas you walk out and it’s like you know when you open the oven door there’s just that that air wafts over you that’s the whole bleeping desert feels like that uh it is sweating in the shade so Pike we’ll see you soon thanks for popping on I appreciate it see you tomorrow buddy Jack do you have any appetizers in the in the oven heating no I got I got nothing that that is what we are doing here we are literally just staying warm for those who will eat us later um or it feels at least that way big thank you to outdoor denl for bringing on Pike today again if you’ve got any issues with snoring I don’t know if Pike’s that guy he’s gonna be fine this week because he’s all on his own but you know you got to partner you got to think about them uh check out that CA laser snoring treatment they do outdoor. dental I have done it painfree two 15 minute sessions significant Improvement in my a sleep and more importantly my wife’s sleep so can’t thank Dr J enough and encourage you to go check that out on your own uh Jackie we’ve uh piece together a Pender report do you want to walk through this with me Amigo yeah let’s do it but before we get into it we’re getting a lot of people in the comments saying that this is a green screen No One Believes you’re in Vegas there’s no chicks and bikinis are we are we gonna have to get you in the pool that’s not enough no no you couldn’t the chair can I get in the pool can let’s do that we’re gonna get in the pool here okay ready yeah uh maybe we can do it at the end we do it at the end we’re gonna end the show just tarps off off in the pool tarps off really hot I could do it now I literally just showered the mullet yeah if you want to go for swim go ahead I’m just gonna do that we’re just gonna go waist tie here we go that was lame how’s that you jerks what do you think of that uh yeah we we actually are here what it is is we’re a balcony above uh the main level so these are all like VIP Cabanas that look into this screen you walk down a flight of stairs behind me and then there’s even more pools and it’s all the lawn chairs we got a little more quiet and secluded area up here to to broadcast from but it’s pretty cool I’m I’m like checking Copa America odds while I’m watching Euro and there’s baseball on and there’s some other decent scenery around here as well too I do promise you that it’s just they’re not walking behind the camera they’re would would you you and your bikini Jack walk behind a camera that’s shooting on a live on YouTube or would you just take the pass on that yeah I’d probably just get out of the way right to see let’s get to the fender report we do it for Village Honda in the Northwest Automall and online at Village honda.com hey go get that calendar yours get the red ink mark it in there August 24th it is their fourth annual Honda and Acura show and shine bigger and better every year so you know this one’s going to be the best uh there are Awards for Best in Show best in modified best classic and new for this year a People’s Choice Award you can register now online at Village honda.com August 24th up at the Northwest Automall I know Anthony and the Gang very excited about that okay let’s uh we just finished with Pike let’s get right back to him we kick off the Pender Report with what’s going on at Flames Nation as you can see here uh little primer what have the Flames done in the draft what have they not done well Pike Nails it with the headline the record isn’t spotless but they found a lot of value in the first round of the draft uh we did our draft primer show that’s still up on YouTube if you haven’t checked it out it’s very very thorough it’s what 2 220 205 210 a lot of time setting up the top 15 prospects in the draft but before all that really looking at the Flames draft history organizational needs they had a three-year period there where they just absolutely crushed drafts out of the park you brought in the likes of kachuck fox Dubay Shillington Anderson like it it was a really nice run there you’ve had other years that are really lean uh mixed bag probably the best way to describe what they’ve done but more over at flamesnation doca with Pike breaking down the first round specifically as for the draft here’s what we’re looking at two days away bit of an earlier start Vegas time as uh you can see here s Eastern means four Pacific and then it’s a an early start out here 8:30 in the morning on Saturday no thanks uh I’m just going to fly home instead Jack if if that’s okay with you on Saturday yeah I don’t think you need to be there any longer do we have a plan for Friday you know what we’ll have information about that tomorrow I know uh we’re solidifying them but there you’re going to be able to hang with us watch with us and not unlike the outdoor game in Edmonton when was that November 29 October 29 I think it was uh we’re gonna just hang out we got uh I know Mike gold G to join us Kent Wilson going to join us we’ll see if uh we get a western leager Cammy will probably be able to jump on and talk about whether it’s Lindstrom or ainla or Berkeley katton Carter yakam chuk lots of Western Leaguers in the top dozen here so we’ll welcome the whole Flames Nation family in we might even hear from the Grumpy Old Men as well with Boomer and Rhett after the round one selection so we we’ll be doing things Friday but uh certainly will’ll be more solidified come tomorrow’s show uh NHL has been dropping these profiles Jack you’re going to love this one because it’s got a football time we’ve heard a lot about Kaden Lindstrom there he is the medicon Hat tiger who just physically imposing incredibly fast hard-hitting well over a point of game Dynamic playmaker and finisher here’s the trivia you’re GNA love not only is this guy uh the top prospect in the 2024 CHL a top prospect Award winner but here’s a guy that played other sports and in fact look at his 40 time Jack you would you would appreciate this as a as a football guy what was it a nine sorry a 438 40 Dash like what are we talking about here that’s insane would have been the 13th best result in last year’s NFL combine that is insane love put some put some skates on that cat and line up someone in the corner I saw this and I loved it you know I like a good high kick I found my uh not my match but my absolute final boss there’s no way I’m beating him Sergey babski ripping it up with a cup Jacko loves the high kick and so do I uh drunken camera work but that’s to be expected we’re a couple days into the party here look how high he gets there mindbending stuff what kick a basketball [Music] H oh my God this my guy you look like Gumby or what kicking double his height Classic goalie flexib ability Kings and the Ducks Making a Splash the two greater La teams have tweaked their uniforms we saw the new logo from the Kings a while back how about this from the Ducks I don’t know how long Trevor zus is going to be there but that’s a vibe from uh the Ducks who go back to that Mighty Ducks logo with the duck mask and the cross sticks and a lot of orange there there’s Radco Gus uh noted pugilist and intimidating human I need a jack uh yeah or name on the the Ducks orange new look here I love these these are awesome kind of with you yeah I I don’t know that uh like right now it hits I know fashion goes in circles right I love this if you showed me this 15 years ago I probably thought it would suck but right now this seems to work I like the orange I love it what do you think Rett would think of these a little too flashy or would he be he’s just like why are you look like the Cleveland Browns um Kings they showed us their new logo it’s kind of a throwback to the Gretzky area ERA with some of the some of the just a little modern tweaks I like that those are clean and simple and it’s back to the good old days for the Kings not the cups in the tens but the Gretzky and the 90s Vibes need the Jack rating like as well classy okay uh let’s move soccer soccer soccer we got Euro but also Copa America and the Canadians got a huge result yesterday against Peru who coach I think think is a lunatic they weren’t great it was pretty sloppy H uh soccer and rather physical but there was Jonathan David when the Canadians needed it a huge goal they win one nil and that puts them in good stead heading into their final match of group play they have a very good Chilean club uh that they will Fest in the finale of group play you win that they’re through you get a tie you might even get through at Copa America that in fact you would get through uh that will be a fun one to watch uh come Saturday your your group standings show Canada right behind Argentina before we move on here Ryan we got a special guest jumping in the Stream oh boy this is what we need what do we got please don’t be what I think it is okay I’m loading the video oh no get out of here what don’t you ruin my boondoggle Copa Copa America Copa Canada 1 nil Copa Copa is this what happens when I leave it’s nothing but [ __ ] soccer get it together Christ that’s 30 seconds of soccer godamn it ca Copa come on I’ll clean it up how’s Vegas how did the major show up is the major there with you I uh the major is like I’m surrounded he hasn’t got me yet but I just you keep hitting the shower keep hitting the pool keep the major at Bay we’re sweating in the shade here man 42 today it’s getting too major swass loves it in Vegas in June he loves it there reporting for Duty how’s the ro oh it’s so great we’re in Saskatchewan so you know we’re in and out of what is what we got 5G here it’s like 2G 1.5g cell service so it’s in and out but uh you know it’s uh we’re into Saskatchewan and it’s straight and flat so I figured I’d jump on because I could take a nap or join you for a few minutes I’m surprised you picked what you picked but uh hey you know what the book’s never closed on anyone everyone can change uh you want to hang with us for a couple of fun items here or you might not be able to see the screen long as my cell as long I can see it but as long as my cell hangs in I’m here we lose you we lose you that’s no big deal okay so we showed you the clips from Matt Tugboat Wilkinson earlier this year this guy’s an absolute unit now he’s a former okok dog pitcher signed by Cleveland and is just absolutely mowing guys down in single a this is his 100th strikeout single level Innings the onew pitch is SW on and missed by NE tugbo out a boy mattye Tugboat Wilkinson the former okok dog sh out 100ks in 60 Innings too good for single know that’s what they call tidy right there some tidy numbers uh you’re going to hate this of all the that you could have come on look at this thing that we found just for you I don’t know if this is a snake or a milipede or centipede or or is it AI this is 8 feet of nightmares is this the thing from from Tremors what what do we look at at here that’s a PO oh do not like so you’ve been in this predicament before that sucks move I uh like something I yeah I left one of those in uh in Brooks about an hour ago at the at the P yeah well and and there’s nothing worse than when you’re you’re in the doing one of those uh pit stops and you’re out of TP but there actually is something worse we’ve got some more stories coming in from Australia I believe this is Aussie Brad what do we got name one thing that’s worse I’m running out of toilet paper when having a [ __ ] yeah in oh just to spider the size of your hand on the toilet paper roll Dean you know what may maybe we don’t need a wipe today that’s yeah that is a conundrum that is a conundrum like maybe can I can I fit my rack under the under the sink and maybe just get like some do a bird bath because that’s not going to work or you do the little turkey trut into the next stall and hope no one’s in there to use the toilet paper in there that’s not ideal no boy last one for you I think you could probably use this if you got a little pond on the farm where you’re headed but certainly Rhett when he moves back home for for his vacations this is uh this is an investment this isn’t a toy this is the uh the floating crocodile head with the [Music] motor that’s just oh man again you get some laughs in the Prairies but Florida oh goodness who put the Oh Henry in the pool yeah left some oh Henry’s all right that is that’s it that’s your PIN report for today D it’s for our good friends at Village Honda right now the village Honda demo clear out event Village ready to sell their 2024 demo models you could save hundreds even thousands of dollars on these vehicles that are like new with extremely low mileage uh you’re putting on some mileage what uh what what does the rest of this pilgrimage look like back to Manitoba well we were a little uh little laid getting going today had a my my co-pilot slept in till about 10:30 so uh we were a little late getting on the go it’s just driving we’ll get uh we’ll get there when we get there but it’s a nice day for uh for cruising uh that’s is not fair for people that because I I got in near the end of the sah Valley hit what’s what’s cooking what’s the vibe in Vegas man there’s so much going on first off this drop just feels like a crapshoot from two on there’s lots of drama there’s some teams that we expect to make major waves be at Utah with the cap space and the willingness to spend and want to win Ottawa New Jersey and buffalo don’t feel like they need another Prospect they’d rather fast forward things and then on top of that you got the Marner NIS Chen drama to unfold and Stam Coast gensel Reinhardt tanov Marsha so those guys are still unsigned heading into UFA I mean we’re talking about trades draft and UFA all in the next six days here this is nuts yeah and I caught the part with Pike and I know you guys were talking about Shillington you and I talked to Craig about it last week this this struck me as something that would have would have been done by now yeah if it was if it was not to say it won’t get done but I just curious I I I wonder what is holding things up if it’s I wonder if the Shillington Camp is wondering what else might be out there for us as good as you know as good as the Flames have been and as good as the opportunity seems to be because of plenty of space on that back end I wonder what the Shillington Camp is thinking today I do too and maybe it’s not that they’re looking elsewhere but they just know the closer they get to July 1 the more Craig kind of has to honor their ask more than them come to Craig’s ask I think the leverage uh they might only be off by a half million or a million or a year whatever it is that they’re not closed on but the closer you get to Monday the probably the more you just have to give the player what he wants because I wouldn’t be surprised if someone else gave the Shillington Camp what they were looking for there’s enough Tools in there that uh he would be an appealing guy for other organ organizations to add I still think it gets done here but I don’t think the Flames can drive the bus here not when you’re five days from free agency yeah it’s it’s a league that caters to what Shillington is good at you know the guy can skate and maybe there’s more offense there but if you’re a team that is desperate for some some good Mobility on the back end maybe you maybe you’ve got some dough that you would throw at this guy come uh come July one I don’t know that’s it it’s a curious one I I think in a lot of ways the work really now Begins for Craig as challenging as it might have been to find good return for all these guys you know it’s about putting Humpty Dumpty back together again the selling for the most part is kind of done now it’s about making the most of what you got and if you can you know if you can hit hit on a few of these you’re not going to hit on all of them nobody does but that’s I mean that’s the challenge you can’t don’t go one for three like the like you did with with the Monahan draft you gota you gotta have a little bit better of a batting average I would say than that at least to shorten shorten the the painful years or the time it’s going to be before you’re good again yeah it’s no question that you know these things can take a long time there there’s one shortcut and that’s you got to hit on your draft picks and they’ve got six in the first three rounds uh the first round the next three years excuse me if you can find a star or two in there and the whiffs aren’t big whiffs but maybe it’s hey he’s a third liner not a top liner like that that’s how you turn this around quickly it’s there there isn’t going to be a Stam Coast showing up in free agency to make them good it has to be done through uh the draft here and two picks in the first round on Friday as it stands now we’ll see if they add if they move up if they slide back if they put number 28 with a second rounder and try to move up into another tier I I’m fascinated to see how it goes on Friday I wonder too I know we talked about this and and I think you kind of bristled at it there’s no way to know but we’ve seen now another player it was cutter go and the Flames Flames fans know what it’s okay well maybe Matthew kachuck isn’t going to sign long term and Johnny leaves now this mcro kid we’ve seen Fox there’s there’s a lot right like there’s a lot of it and we talked about it on the show I think when when Rhett was there is do you does that enter your thought process at all when you’re using one of these top picks because you feel like ginla there’s probably not a a a a worry of him bolting in four or five years right he’s this is this is where he’s from this is very much ingrained in who he is whereas with for some other kids you just don’t know I just wonder for some of these teams how much you now have to really think about not just how good is the player how does he fill out what does he translate to when he’s in his mid 20s but also is he gonna be with us when he’s in his mid to late 20s I think it’s becoming more and more of a concern in a way it’s funny because the Russians were the guys with the bad rep and I know people have been talking about this online this isn’t a new idea but just regurgitating what smarter people than us have been saying like the Russians all show up like capriso went to Minnesota you know like they they’re all going they’re not difficult you got to pay them but that’s everyone and it’s seemingly Collegiate Americans are the the harder guys to pin down uh that said and M’s coming over too right yeah earlier than anticipated that was thought to be like oh gez that might be three years well one year later he’s going to arrive and be an impactful player in the Flyers top two lines I mean that’s a huge win uh if you had been aggressive on Americans on on Russians when everyone said stay away I mean talk about finding a major major like huge like market misstep like you you’ve youve found huge value like those guys just have this knock that really wasn’t hasn’t been warranted the last four or five years and Americans have been the opposite where oh it’s a safe guy North American pick and all of a sudden you know that you named a lot of guys that that that sort of they’re not afraid to use the leverage they have I will say this draft is hard even the best teams look dumb at the draft all the time and if you start limiting passports in your selections you’re making one of the hardest exercises the pro uh franchises have to do even harder right yeah that’s just that’s the one thing I’d say and and again kachuck leaving you isn’t the problem you got a first and two at the time very Dynamic players you did fine on that it was Fox and gdo and some of these others that that really are you’re left with nothing or like we’ll throw him in on a five player deal the kachuck one you got three really valuable Parts at the time and yeah did did hubero turn out to what you thought to be absolutely not but a first round is a first rounder and and McKenzie weager is a top pair defenseman it wasn’t like the trade was the bad decision it was more what you did with those assets that you’d love a a redo on yeah I mean you could talk about so you’re blue in the face I still think if you had your brothers you’d want you’d want the guy that you took in the top 10 the elite young four no for sure you would yeah who all those years left and totally I don’t I don’t know how you you’re at the draft floor and especially with the way it looks like this first round is going to go you don’t really have any predictability it’s going to be a lot of shifting on the Fly depending on what players go where totally as do we like them is it a position what’s what what was the interview process oh do we think do we think he he’ll be with us in in five years it’s it’s too hard to kind of get through but it’s yeah it’s wild and I know that pisses Warner off because the whole thing is supposed to be it’s a honored to be in the NHL and you play where you get drafted and you thank you know thank the hockey gods that you get to do it so now to see kids that have basically the express route to an NHL job and then kind of thumb their nose at certain markets and C certain teams for whatever reason it it burns those guys and I get it but it’s yeah it’s it’s the world we’re in now it’s the these kids have seemingly seem to have a a lot of Leverage sometimes they to get where they want to be and and what it really is is they’re not afraid to use that leverage I think it’s always been there but boy would you get would you get read the riot act by the hockey world and now it’s like you know we got agents is a business yeah I’ve had an advisor since I was 14 like I’m an independent contractor I don’t view myself as a blue or a blue jacket or a star I’m a pro hockey player I’m gonna play for lots of different teams I will say this I I didn’t give that a lot of time earlier but I think it factors into tie breaks for sure if you’ve got two guys in the same box and one played in the O and the other was at Denver University and that might be a situation they’re looking at at nine uh that might break your tie it might be right and it could be unfair to the player because you look at a lot of there’s a lot of players they’d be very happy to play in Calgary they don’t and they’re to play in New York is not what they are longing for but it’s it’s got to be like you say it’s got to be a tiebreaker at the very least at this point for some of these markets and I think calary is one of them so so what’s up for the rest of the day now so you’re done well I mean I boy I’m thirsty Dean I gotta tell you something about this heat um something about the Heat and something about the uh the Wardrobe here in the hiring practices I I’m gonna need a few drinks deliver to me and I tell you what we got an absolute whale of a show coming tomorrow as well uh sounds like we might have Todd button-on director of Scouting For the Calgary Flames I know cammy’s in the hood we might be able to get depending on her flights uh a recap on some of the top Western League Talent we’ll expect to see go in the top dozen uh also noodles is going to join us a little early we’ll pre-record and that’ll be a part of the show as well so uh the non-stop draft coverage will continue safe travel Amigo uh let’s check in Friday night when the Flames have got to the podium we can uh overreact and uh falsely prognosticate the future of this player yeah no promises on my sobriety on a Friday night back home but so we’ll see uh we’ll see how that goes maybe earlier in the day if you’re doing an earlier show maybe we’ll try and uh we’ll see how that goes but uh good work down there it’s it’s not easy they really give the hardest assignments to the toughest people and you’re the guy for that job I’m here in the salt mines Dean just uh another day staving off uh a fatal injury uh last one we need a we need a Country Fest update or whatever it is if you got the tickets secured you can’t not go to this thing all be very disappointed I brought it up well we’ll be going it’s just a matter of do we do we have the tickets because okay somebody’s somebody bought tickets and for their staff but they don’t know what staff are taking them and what they’re using so it’s not a soldout event uh going nitty-gritty Dirt Band and jod MSA okay apparently not sold out for Sunday night so uh by one way or the other uh will be there so it’s not exactly you two at the sphere that’s what I’m hearing okay it’s exactly not fish not fish or the Grateful Dead at at the fraking spear so yeah we’ll be there uh and then yeah [ __ ] Tuesday hey we’ll be reacting to all of this after it’s all wild yeah hey uh enjoy a bit of downtime I it’s always fun getting back to your roots or or visiting you know the old Family Farm be it your wife’s or yours so enjoy and uh definitely hit one of those little uh Motel restaurant bar VLT meat raffle places that I don’t understand it sounds like fun might go for a cheeseburger deluxe which you know it’s your your your French fries little gravy of course it comes with gravy it’s not even you don’t even have to ask for it fact there so yeah crinkle cut fries that’d be nice oh for sure GRE yeah love that yeah yeah and piled high piled high you never gripe about the portion size but yeah we’ll have we’ll have some updates for you but that’s uh that’s the extent of it from uh from where I sit today thanks for checking in we’ll chat again soon thanks Dino see buddies all right there’s boom cat let’s get to our bway bats of the day got a little bit of uh some draft stuff for you we also have a a little bit of open wide for some soccer we’ve got Copa America that’ll be taking over the big screens behind us once we get into prime time tonight uh with bway here’s the deal if you start a new account scan that QR 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surprising if demidov goes there but they already have as we talked about in the mock draft a lot of small playmaking talented Wingers so to go get that readyto playay defenseman out of Michigan state would make sense for Chicago what’s interesting here is that salive is not the highest on many draft boards here it’s more of a fit with Anaheim they’ve got the reigning defenseman of the year last year in the O the Q and the Western League they are flush with talented defenseman do they add Anton salaya this six foot7 wrecking ball that skates like the wind out of Russia that could really round out the dgroup for what the next decade potentially so it’s more about fit than Talent here with Anaheim at number three salv is your favorite at plus 125 lunov still might be available if demidov goes to Chicago two and then you see demidov at plus 425 boy if he starts to slide Jack it’ll be interesting i’ I’ve heard some people that Scout for a living for NHL organizations that think he might get into the neighborhood of the Flames where you might have to say look we weren’t thinking about trading up but if all we have to move up is one or two slots to get arguably the best Winger in the draft really interesting stuff with demidov who played in the Russian Junior League uh and absolutely torch thing he was too good for it Sak’s a high-rising guy I don’t see him getting up to three although we did see him getting lots of love in Bob McKenzie’s rankings his final rankings that just came out and kayen Lindstrom it’s a big number here at 10 to one Jack for a guy that uh I think could be the second best center in this class pretty easily with his size skill we talked about earlier and obviously celebrating going at one interesting very interesting what do you think the Flames would need to do to trade up in this draft are they mov depends how far up you’re going right and so I would look at teams like Utah at six and Ottawa at seven Utah could use a guy but they also could address needs in free agency with the huge amount of cap space they have and turn that number six pick into another roster player and say look we don’t you know we had two first rounders last year Nashville in the top dozen we we’re not lean on prospects um you the shim as well as the Daniel boot the two Russian kids that they dropped it high last year I think that pick could be in play and if you are the flames and you only have to move up three spots do you have to give number 28 to move up just three spots maybe it’s a second is it a pair of seconds I don’t know uh I know puckpedia who’s kind of taken over from cap friendly they’ve got pick trade valuations based on when picks get move for each other there’s sort of a a value of each pick that okay I want to move up three well is it is it four to one or is it 38 to 36 here’s the pick that would equal that value there’s some fun little levers to pull on that website but if you only had to move up two or three spots and I because I think Ottawa is the same as Utah they might not need a prospect as much as they need a roster player maybe it’s a Rasmus Anderson to Ottawa and you get you know number eight back or number seven back and and a a player that would be intriguing to me and that’s only two spots higher I I wonder what it would cost I don’t think the Flames want to give up 28 but if you start talking about a second or two seconds who cares if you can get the guy you want in the top nine exactly and they have tons of picks so yeah eight in the first four rounds serous let’s let’s get to the next one here this will be the fourth overall pick okay so at four we see Lindstrom all of a sudden is the heavy favorite and it’s funny because salv who we saw is the favorite for number three is at plus 700 to get to four like it it does speak to that fit with Anaheim versus other teams demidov there plus 275 he might be long gone at two and the slide might continue uh Columbus is interesting you could go fanelli Lindstrom down the middle for a long time or you had demidov that skilled Winger into that talented big group of prospects they’ve got this this draft is absolutely nuts man it really is I I think this will be a ton of fun to watch transpire on Friday night yeah let’s go Copa America I got a bet for that uh tonight Mexico Venezuela Mexicans been not exactly a golden generation but a tough run for them they’re usually the dominant team in conquer CA it has not been that they’ve turned over the roster to a younger group if I can get them A Plus money to beat Venezuela I’m taking it they’re plus 115 I might have to be in the pool for that one it is screaming hot here and I’m sweating in the shade uh those are bets of the day for betway and again scan that QR code and uh redeem your bonus when you start a new account you can get up to $200 back if your first bet loses man we’re gonna have some fun here uh one other way we can contribute want to encourage you all to hit the Great Clips 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his second draft at the Helm of the Calgary Flames as their general manager thanks for being with us big shout out to our friends here at Stadium swim at the Circa Hotel on Fremont here in downtown Vegas we’re going to have some fun hope you’ve enjoyed it and again if you haven’t had a chance dive into a lot of that draft content we’ve been churning out the last few weeks the draft primer went up uh I believe early in the week mock draft went this morning if you haven’t checked that out that’s a ton of fun uh get acquainted with these players we’re going to be hearing about Friday night the top dozen has all kinds of intriguing different types of players and one might be the next face of the Calgary Flames thanks for watching we’ll see you tomorrow Buddies a [Music] [Applause]

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  1. Pike is out of his GD mind. Basically thinks the Flames should take a D or move up and take Hage? Not Helenius or Catton? BONKERS.

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