Is Aaron Rodgers Skipping Jets Minicamp to Do Drugs at Ayahuasca Retreat? | The Dan Le Batard Show

Aaron Rodgers continues to behave like Aaron Rodgers as he is set to miss mandatory mini camp for the New York Jets. As rumors circulate that he may be missing this camp for a ayahuasca retreat, Dan and the crew discuss the way Rodgers is being covered by the media and how it differs from how it would be for other athletes, if Rodgers’ “spiritual journey” has changed his perspective on work and football, why Rodgers continues to act like he’s a target, whether or not Rodgers cares about what we think (he does), and if Dan and Mike are egomaniacs

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we have been talking for a long time here uh more than three years about uh sort of the ramifications the repercussions of the pandemic and how many things have uh turned bad crazy do we have any idea why it is that it’s bat and not another animal that gets assigned to the crazy uh because batshit is uh is one that I don’t understand well you can make a lot of things from guano it’s linked to crazy right uh but one of the craziest things in the last three or four years stats and it’s gotten so crazy that I do believe uh the public is largely numb to it The Descent of Aaron Rodgers from whatever it is you thought of him before to now being someone who is missing mandatory camp with the Jets and a lot of people think it’s because he’s got an iasa Retreat so now it’s not drug use entirely the reason that he’s missing mandatory camp and Iowaska is wildly misunderstood so I I know a lot of people uh listening to this uh Mike has referred to it as tripping balls uh what iasa is actually is a spiritual uh Journey that uh is you’re altered by by um by I I think it’s a it’s a tree bark that makes you very sick and is supposed to be about killing the ego and showing you things about your life that you need to see so they can die I’ve told you before that I’ve thought about doing it and I’ve always been too scared to get that kind of sick but many people who do it and believe it call it life altering say they CH it will change that DMT and other things will change your entire perspective on how it is that you view the world so whatever you think of iasa there still is the story of the Jets quarterback is missing mandatory camp and is going to be fined and is causing distractions with his team a apparently because he’s got a spiritual Retreat planned again the reporting on this that’s important to him and Robert Salah did not think it was important enough for him to miss a mandatory Camp his spiritual journey is important to him no matter what you make of his spiritual journey and whether you want to laugh at it or not and his football coach doesn’t care about his spiritual journey but to see that at the top of an organization and have it missing Mandarin mandatory Camp after everything that else that has happened with Aaron Rodgers is fairly flabbergasting to see that as a choice being made by him I think what the coach is saying is hey take your spiritual journey on your own time not on my time and what he’s saying is hey coach you had the entire off Seas no but and no I don’t know given the timing of these things right I don’t know how special a ceremon this is I don’t know why it is that he can’t be at mandatory Camp because this this thing this is all speculative it is all speculative it is all speculative and iasa is supposed to kill the ego according to you because it doesn’t seem like his ego has been killed yeah he also reportedly went I want in March right I matter the timeline I I would I would say that if Lamar Jackson had a very obvious dip in play and his health started being affected and publicly touted drugs as much as Aaron Rogers does it would be received a lot different if if reportedly Lamar Jackson wanted to step away from a mandatory Camp because of something surrounding drugs it would be received not the same way it is a fairly for as much as he’s in the news cycle and a lot of it’s his own doing like he is living a Charmed existence for whatever reason and to couch it as I’m searching for something I’m searching for this I’m trying to get rid of my ego give me a break you’re tripping balls Mike is right don’t give me that it’s like Jim Morrison at the doors I don’t want to hear about it he takes acid he takes LSD takes mushrooms iasa whatever it is because it feels good that’s why all right uh that is not the way the people who do this talk about this but I understand the skepticism about psychedelics and I understand the skepticism about this I’m simply telling you because I don’t believe anyone here has any expertise in talking to others who have gone down this path I will tell you that my brother went down this path aggressively and so I see when Aaron Rodgers does talk about some of this stuff how he is talking about mind altering as also mind opening and when it’s mind opening one of the things that happens is football’s pretty silly work is pretty silly uh jobs are pretty silly we’re talking about life and death stuff and connection to uh the spiritual world and while I understand anyone listening to this dismissing it I will just tell you that the people who believe in this kind of stuff do so fervently and would not dismiss work is silly is a much different message than anything that has to do without winning let’s keep it out of this building correct he also has the means to just retire if it’s silly so why not uh correct because he hasn’t done enough to kill the ego also bad comes from the popular phrase from around the turn of the previous Century to have bats in the belfrey the image Compares bats in a church steeple to crazy ideas in a person’s head from there we get terms like batty and gone bats that’s from quora yeah and I’ve recently like it was I tried a gummy for the first time in my life after 30 like I’ve just not really seen the appeal of drugs but I am warming up to certain things I do feel relaxed it does get me in a better place um but most of the people that tell me to do iasa are’t generally not people I would take their advice on anything from and Aaron Rogers does seem to fit that mold to answer stug got’s question because I know there’s a lot to laugh at here and there’s a lot to be skeptical of uh but when Billy says well you can just retire or uh when stugots gets mad at the Jets quarterback uh he can have everything he wants because go ahead and do something about it somebody go ahead and do something about it go ahead uh Jet’s coach go ahead Jet’s owner go ahead League do something about it the answer is you can’t you will not um he will do whatever he wants because he can he can take the money did do something about it he said publicly this is he find him this is not an excused absence and you know that’s the byproduct of your decision right there is the consequences you got called out well let me be clear I don’t care I understand why Sal’s upset I understand why fans are upset but Dan he chose this organization this is a desperate organization they’ll allow him to do anything as long as he shows up and plays quarterback every Sunday well serious but that’s a big question right and he’s got to he’s got to do it well maybe not all that well given what we saw to their their defense position but he he has slid quite a bit and it does on the timeline it matches up with him approaching ages where we’ve literally only seen one guy do it at the same level well thank you for for bringing that guy up because I do believe that one of the distortions that has happened over the last 15 years to God says Tom Brady notice well wait a minute if LeBron’s his own economy then wait a minute how valuable am I Aaron Rogers is testing all the limits on that stugots he’s testing all the limits on how desperate are you that I can do whatever I want whenever I want however I want and furthermore what I’m going to do is go from State Farm spokesman and everything that entails to got you got to be clean to get those things you you lose those things when you’re not clean image wise to go from that too I do whatever I want whenever I want and I’ll take your consequences because your consequences aren’t going to change my behavior my life is bigger than football the things I think are too big to be kept quiet anymore I don’t care whether I’m a distraction to the organization or the Huddle or whether I’m missing mandatory Camp I’m leaving now what are you going to do about it okay disgrace my name I’m going to be in a different psychedelic land where I don’t have to hear what your criticisms are I’m not going to be in the country I’m not going to hear the noise I’ll be back in time for football he’s really testing the limits on Power and what he can get away with but is it going well for him I mean he’s gonna keep getting his money and he’s going to get bad public opinion and he’s gonna get a job as the quarterback of the Jets when he decides to return to it now though but he’s also going to get considered as a vice presidential candidate it there are good things her leaning into some of the aspects that he’s leaning in like his profile has certainly increased because to some he’s more Infamous and to others he’s speaking truth to power and he and he’s being brave with some of his SES however ridiculous you may find them he is he has totally changed his perception in the last few years but when he first started doing this he had excellent play to go with it is he going to become a cautionary tale is he like is it going to be known as a red flag when your aging quarterback decides to start turning to iasa like he’s at the Forefront of a lot of new stuff here we’re not used to seeing people do it at this age like we all said there’s only been one that’s been able to do it and that is who Aaron Rogers will be graded against independent of all that off field stuff like when we’re talking about the greatest quarterbacks we’ve ever seen in terms of playing the position I think it doesn’t get much better than the bradies the Rogers the Mahomes of the world but it feels like once his play is done he’s going to then be compared to the greats of Jesse Ventura and is that the path that he wants to go down bless he may he may view it as Reagan he knows it all goes away if he shows up on Sundays and plays and plays well so he doesn’t care to Dan’s point he does not care he’s out of the country he doesn’t care that Sal Lata is ripping him on W UF go ahead have had to get your 20 shares he doesn’t care you’re absolutely right which is which comes back to his Original Point like we don’t want anything in this in this building that affects winning like he may be I do genuinely think that whatever Aaron Rogers is doing outside of Camp he believes it is ultimately helping his goal I don’t need that rationale explain to me I get it whether it’s wrong or right that’s not for me to decide but it might not actually be helping it might not but I will tell you that uh Tom Brady at Aaron rogers’s age was pretty obviously unhappy that he was trapped inside the confines of not being able to use his power in New England the way that he wanted to and so he left to do not psychedelics but to win but break Co protocol with Byron Leftwich coming over to his house so he can win and so he could beat Patrick Mahomes again in in the playoffs so like you you have very valid concerns I think if this is your quarterback and the more quirky he’s gotten and that’s putting kid gloves on it the quirkier he’s gotten publicly the worse the onfield product has also been you do realize though right that he does believe that he aligned with the universe and whatever is he is doing will make him the best version of quarterback he’s betting on himself so thoroughly here that he’s like I need this more than I need mandatory Camp I need this uh enough that I’m willing to have the consequences of my coach and my organization endure the embarrassment of this this is his mandatory mini cam I think the difference or one of the differences between him and Tom Brady is I don’t think with Tom Brady you ever questioned how much he actually cared about football which is where you kind of are with Aaron like does Aaron like football we don’t really know and the times that he has reportedly flexed his muscle inside that organization not just with stuff like this it’s hey we want to sign Joe Flo actually I prefer Tim Bo we we got to hang out I like Nate hackit like they they they’re making concessions for Aaron roders that are hurting them because I think there isn’t a Jets fan on this planet that wouldn’t have preferred Joe Flaco over Tim Bole we signed Randall Cobb uh Billy I disagree with you that he does not love football he absolutely loves the way Sundays make him feel mandatory Camp Sunday and and Mondays and Performing well in his defense he went to all the stuff he didn’t have to go to all of it all the offseason workouts all that stuff that was voluntary he went to all of them that’s exactly what you do when you know you’re about to miss one of the things that you can’t miss okay but Mike Dan asked how desperate you have to be this desperate you’re this desperate you’re you’re right about this this is uh the most spectacular midlife crisis I have ever seen in sports it won’t end but like can you be the person that say that says don’t have distractions and be the number one distraction uh I’m not going to claim that he is not inconsistent what I am going to claim is when you say how important is football to him not as important as wherever it is that he’s headed on this path obviously and it’s not because football hasn’t been important to him it’s because something else is now more important to him you can’t be MVP great at that sport without loving it it’s not possible you can’t do look Drew Brees said every time he was in the facility at 10 p.m. and everyone else is gone uh greatness is lonely like you can’t be that good at it if you don’t love it but he is searching for something else in a way that’s publicly obvious the rest of us think or many of us think he’s lost think he’s aligned with his Jour yeah but aligned with his journey of self-discovery he’s also saying asinine things whether it’s the government created AIDS or getting into a very public spot with Jimmy Kimmel over at the very least jokes in super poor taste about pedophilia so you have all these things going along with it and it all kind of sparked by this journey of self-discovery we also have no onfield proof that what he’s doing is actually important or if it’s working or if it’s working is the biggest part about all this it’s just and again it’s timing out that this might have been the natural he could have been the most straight laced dude quiet not said a word literally in that facility day and night and his place still would have dropped just because of his age I also personally don’t really care what Aaron Rogers thinks about anything like one way or another I just don’t understand why we equate odd behavior to enlightened oh I’m just telling you his viewpoint on what he’s doing with psychedelics and with iasa like but it’s just a nature of celebrity today like people are drawn to Russell Brand even more so now as he’s really veered into a specific Lane because oh this person gives off interesting but really there’s not much there it’s it’s like you think someone’s super interesting and you want to find out more of them and they then they believe the Earth is flat you know it’s like why did I actually put that much stock in this person I’ve been surprised by Russell Brand and how far right he is gone and it makes me wonder honestly because I know we get accused of being in a certain kind of echo chamber ourselves and being affected by that Echo chamber I know people people think that I and we are woke fried as an entity um it does make me wonder though when you start putting a toe in those Waters toward the extreme and then start getting the Applause validation of the exem and the money no because and the money because you actually have a career we’re seeing it play out right now with a a what was presented as a stay-at-home mom going on info a Wars dropping the n-word and then publicly thanking black people for their role in the I’m not in an echo chamber I may be here on this show I live in South Florida I hear your opinions constantly I’m on X I understand everyone else’s opinion I go to the dentist I’m in the golf chat yeah like I get it all I really do I don’t I don’t I I I don’t get Russell bran going with Alex Jones I don’t get that I don’t why these people are showing you who they are like it’s just because I have my own opinions it’s not a byproduct of an echo chamber there’s no shortage of EV everybody else’s opinions even in sports I hear Aon Rogers opinions I can’t I can’t avoid them I I understand Billy says he couldn’t care less about Aaron Rogers because he’s such a superstar and because I work in sports I have to care I have to have some conviction one way or another or otherwise it’s just a pretty boring show if everyone’s just like I don’t care I I can’t be in this business and say to you that a quarterback who is 40 missing mandatory Camp to possibly do psychedelics or iasa that that’s something that I’m numb to like I don’t I’m not going to do it like I I but it’s also never been something that isn’t a huge National controversy quarterback leaves Camp reportedly potentially because of drugs like that’s not something that we’ve ever dealt with and it’s never been handled this way it’s Well it can’t be handled anyway because when would it present itself look what it’s Dan you were at the center of it Ricky Williams was so much different little much weaker drug no in ret in retrospect like Ricky was so far ahead of his time like I mean look I mean no that’s it’s I am citing the perfect example right now of How It’s usually been covered and how Charmed in existence and it may be more of a Charmed existence because Ricky Williams publicly had to die for this not literally you know what I meant I’ll take 50 though clarify his identity did have to die uh and it it and Ricky did love football but Ricky’s search was beyond football and Ricky didn’t really fit ever in football Rick’s the one who told us while in the Ravens locker room with Ed Reed and uh and Ray Lewis he’s like I’m a rabbit they’re wolves we spoke about this a little bit last week Darren Waller in his retirement did you see like the interview that he did the podcast that came out like and it ties back slightly to rickley where he like referenced astrology as to why it is that he was retiring from football like he said that his chart was saying that he should be doing more than just football and that was one of the factors in retiring from football he also had a medical issue that none of us knew about where he says he almost died and he I think it was right after he filmed that music video that we were kind of making fun of but this seems to be happening it’s more prevalent you can’t do any of this stuff without a whole lot of people mocking you especially in an Avenue like this where football is so important that we can’t understand anything else being more important than football and especially in America where work is so important you’re being you’re being paid $50 million a year that should be the most important thing to most people that’s that’s fine but don’t be the guy that says football is the most important thing precisely uh but why he’s the one telling us that why can’t you do that if all you’re going to incur is a fine and then you can come back and have your job the consequen say football needs to be the most important thing and then very publicly have football not be the most important thing Billy you can catch anyone on these inconsistencies you’re right you are absolutely correct gotcha Aaron Rogers that seems inconsistent and also he’ll take the consequences of you thinking that because he doesn’t care I’m not trying to get him oh Dan he cares there are no consequen he cares more than anybody $16,000 he could have start he doesn’t care he cares he opens up every Pat McAfee segment talking about how he doesn’t care when he cares he cares he cares about the action to this segment he cares he is it’s icy around him in Tahoe because he cares Mike he’s enduring and choosing the consequences of whatever comes with laughing stock public criticism he’s choosing it you think he doesn’t know that if he misses mandatory Camp it’s a thing but he’s not though because then he’s also playing the victim and as acting as though he’s a Target as though his decisions are not like the conse consquences aren’t the results of his decisions and he cannot wait for you to tune in to the next public statement to find out exactly why he was unexcused I agree with Billy on the idea that uh that Aaron roders like LeBron James uh really is addicted to the attention that there is something about making loud noises that uh does provide something even if it’s polarization and even if it’s loud noises so he cares about salak with negativity he’s he very much spends a lot of time it’s obvious how much time he spends on the internet he tells you how much time he spends on the Internet by saying how much he reads up on things and he encourages people to go read the internet on these things so he very much cares he’s aware of it so let me put in front of you okay if he cares then about the consequences then why is he doing this because I genuinely think that he thinks that this makes it better and his rationale is we are keeping stff out of that facility that doesn’t help us win I he is an egomaniac in that way as a lot of people as you and I are like I think he believes that what he is doing he is rationalized in his mind that this serves a greater good and a lot of people have made bad decisions rationalizing things they feel serve the greater good he also is just creating adversity for himself to overcome like none of this is actual adversity but then he will now paint it as adversity that he in himself is overcoming and he’s using as a driving force like he’s doing this to himself the whole thing about him coming back last year from an injury that everybody in medicine was telling us there is no actual way he can come back he made that a weekly conversation because he wanted to prove his detractors wrong he wanted to crack open the door to maybe the science isn’t all that smart GMA put it on the poll please I’m sorry Juju put it on the poll GMA doesn’t do that anymore at levard show are Dan and Mike egomaniacs duh everybody’s got an ego really come on even the people that present themselves as egoist there there are people that are more egoist but everyone has a sense of selfworth and some people who have lived lives under the and have been high Achievers in in the public space are naturally going to have a larger ego than others and if he thinks that he’s taking something to maybe take that ego apart as you presented it and I know you don’t speak for iasa I would love to start speak for big IA yeah well you you you presented it as a way that’s very clearly not working for Aon Rogers on the poll is duh one of the options I am uh I am bought and paid for by big iasa clearly I’m the only one in the mainstream media advocating for hey guys this isn’t just tripping balls by the way can we stop searching for Stuff a better self the meaning of life what when I die search for a Super Bowl remember how Phil Jackson was covered Phil Jackson wasn’t showing up to meetings because he was out in the mountains and and it was reported that there was this iasa thing around him like it’s a natural thing didn’t someone didn’t someone didn’t someone accuse Rick Carlile at one point of using peyote uh put it on the poll explain some of those fourth Quarters at lebatard show um uh hey Aaron Rogers how about searching for a Super Bowl how’s that sound just make it one word I have an updated offer for my wife’s ticket it was $1,900 then it was $192 in a gummy and the guy originally who went at $1900 has rebutted with $195 in 10 free custom hats wow Cincinnati Lou we’re not going to get up there fast enough we we need to get to $3,000 not we’re not going to get there in half still tomorrow