Jeff Iafrate, Booner, Lukas Klotz, and Michael Gentry discuss 97.1 The Ticket host Marc Ryan’s controversial tweet, Jake Bates to the Detroit Lions, Detroit Lions statistics prediction by ESPN’s Mike Clay, Lomas Brown’s comments on the Lions and, O/U around the NFL and more!
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Time Stamps:
0:00 – Introduction
1:14 – Jake Bates signs with the Detroit Lions
20:34 – Detroit Lions Stats Predictions according to ESPN’s Mike Clay!
27:29 – Reacting to Marc Ryan’s tweets!
42:22 – Lomas Brown Speaks!
1:00:37 – Booner’s question
1:08:08 – O/U Around the NFL segment!
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[Music] [Music] welcome everybody [Music] June 14th and I see all the comments you see all the buzz and you know what I want to say before we even starting because we’re going to get into the Jake bit Stone but I gotta give I got to give a special shout out the only the not the only the first to share that Jake Bates news after it was initially reported from Aaron Wilson who’s great at what he does he breaks a lot of new shout out AAR Wilson was Boer so you know what Boon give it up for crunch time baby he was the first person here locally I saw put it out he uh so yeah that was incredible Jake Bates is a Detroit Lion and we’re going to we’re going to get into it all right classy will be joining us in a second how’s everyone doing today starting with you boys how we doing Jake Pat is a line the Boer another day for the Boer path to shine the flowers the the the daisies the sun’s out blue skies and all we see ahead of us is we see Dan Campbell up in the sky we see Jared gof Jake Bates I’m in R st Brown and right next to them guess what I see boys what do you see a Lombardi trophy oh it’s beautiful day beautiful day Feel Good Friday as people would say yeah well we we got a we got a lot to get to Mike how how you feeling I love the hat again this is twice you’re wearing looks just as beautiful beautiful as it did yesterday just as beautiful obviously the Hat’s doing good sorry I was having a little audio issues for there for a second but I’m doing great obviously Jake Bates is a lion Boer did we help bring Jake Bates home I I think we did that that was that was part of the Boer path and I think us going to the UFL game Michigan Panthers um I think we did it I think and you know what I want to credit you know what you know who I want to actually credit I want to credit the fans because I put a video out on crunch time before the show every single home game in Ford Field it was just Bates chance the whole time everyone there gave Jake Bates the love dude and like what people don’t realize and I’m pretty sure is a lot of people are saying hey keep Jake Bates and like he’s already living here pretty sure Michigan Panthers don’t even live like that team practices somewhere else down south like they literally fly in just for the games I’m like 80% sure so like he wasn’t even living here but I think the fans kind of backing him and and then the support that was shown over those times of him playing in Fort field as their home games um I I think that like that brought him a little bit like that’s part of it so shout out to the fans yeah man maybe just playing in Ford Field in general or playing a lot of indoor games with the lions in general might have you know suckered him up too so who knows but either way we’ve been begging for this Boer just some competition some guys in there we obviously haven’t been very confident in Badgley so and obviously we got the Michigan man James Turner too but who knows either way it’s competition no matter if Jake Bates makes the roster which I’m sure we’re all hoping for at this point but either way yeah Jake Bates provides competition to a room that I don’t think is solidified yet James Turner has shown a lot and I know he’s probably the favorite many would say to win the job you still need to test them and I think who else better to test him than someone who was a hot Comm odity in the kicking Market at least for agency I mean that’s Jake Bates I know he ended this season for the unfl he struggled a little bit but you you can’t take away from him what he did early on which was just absolutely be one of the biggest reasons the Panthers were were even uh winning games I mean their offense was not great and and he was accounting for most of their offense to be honest with you they’ just get in range and let Jake Bates fire away and he would stack up you know 10 10 12 or 12 points in total whatever it was just to propel them to Victory so he’s a he’s he’s a he’s a good kicker now whether that translates or not I mean I it’s competition we have yet to know at this point but what does benefit Jake Bates is he got to play at Fort field yep it’s not outside and guess what if he if he makes the roster wins the job he gets to play at Ford Field you know the same the same place he was playing with the Michigan panther so you know there’s some familiarity there you know it’s better I mean Green Bay you’re kicking outside you go to the Ravens uh yeah they’re kicking outside so with the with the with the Detroit Lions a team that’s primed to go out there and Chase the Super Bowl you get to kick indoors uh he stays here locally at least the fans are already familiar with them it’s a job that he could go out there and win very well I don’t think it’s a it’s no one’s guaranteed the the job at this point it just it makes sense all around so I’m I’m glad they got it done and curious to see again this battle continue and is a real threat he’s a real threat is it I wanted I want it known too that it’s not official completely yet until Tuesday I don’t know if you have the Tweet but like when I put the Tweet out it said until Tuesday it should be official like that’s when it’s supposed to get released so hopefully that news comes out that’s what um was reported was Tuesday so that it’s expected to get done so people are like is it official yet not official until Tuesday I believe um but Jee I’m kind of with you a a little bit and the the Jake bate stuff it’s exciting because it’s a guy that has the leg um but at the end of the day it’s this was his first season ever kicking field goals at a essentially a competitive level at that and at that like a professional level so like he’s gonna come in there I don’t think it’s like an instant oh Jake B is your kicker now that’s the Detroit’s kicker like I do think there’s like um you know hey there’s going to be a learning curve he’s going to have to go in there and he’s competing with guys who have kicked field goals for their career like Michael Badgley has been an NFL kicker the last four or however many years it’s been uh James Turner just won a national championship at Michigan kicking field goals so he’s going to go in there like he does have the leg he probably has the highest ceiling and the most potential out of any of these three kickers but it’s about like you guys we all know the whole thing uh with with Michigan Panthers the end of the season like he did struggle down the stretch a little bit and Outdoors he did struggle but it I think it’s the upside that he’s already kicked multiple 60- yard field goal in in a competitive environment he’s kicked 50 yard field goals like consistently in a competitive environment in an actual football game an organized game so that’s where I I think like you do have that upside so I think there’s going to be a honestly like I know we’re locally so we do see this battle and we don’t really know a lot of other kicking battles around the NFL might be one of the most anticipated and one of the best kicking battles in the NFL now that you have Jake Bates going there you have you know James Turner who’s been perfect during OTAs and you you have Michael badler who had the job last year like this is an anticipated kicking battle who knows who’s going to come out at top but all I know is whoever ends up coming out on top and whoever ends up winning that job is going to be extremely polished they’re going to be ready to go because they’re kicking against you know it’s it’s iron sharpens iron like these guys are going to be going in there and battling it’s like the the secondary room in with the Detroit Lions right now those guys are battling it out helping each other get better Jake Bates is only going to get better with these guys like that’s all it’s going to happen and I wouldn’t be shocked if he wins the job and like once he starts getting consistent and actually getting within a room to where he’s working with guys that are able to help him and who have the experience I think that’s perfect what does that mean yeah you know what that’s up to you I don’t know I don’t know what that means for you to got me fired up about Jake Bates though I was already fired up after the the Tweet but Boer Boer knows how to get the boys fired up let’s go boys I think part of the his him transl I guess for me I’m curious and you won’t really know this till preseason or the season if he wins the job and I guess maybe training camp I guess because there’ll be fans there but having the Panthers and we went to a game uh I think it was the the they played Memphis and I think it had 9,000 nine and a half thousand people there and that was one of the the biggest crowds of the year so now you’re going into an environment at Ford Field where now you’re you’re talking you know six times that more than that so I’m that’s really the only thing I don’t think is you can really question his ability his talent you know his leg but really it’s just kicking in front of that crowd that’s that’s probably the biggest thing I’m looking for um if if because he has to still compete win the job but even even if he’s on the roster and he’s a starting kicker it’s like it’s going to be a a a very different thing for him you know going out there at Ford Field 50 60,000 screaming fans and they’re they’re Rowdy and he’s got he’s got to hit some some very clutch kicks like that’s at least Badgley say what you want about him we’re not huge fans of him he’s fine but he’s at least gotten acclimated to that I mean he hit one against the Rams and you know one of the most anticipated games of our lifetime so yeah I mean you guys have to realize thing with baits for me the the another example of the same situation with Jake Bates as Brandon Aubry and Dallas going from basically the uh I think at the time it was the XF I think he came from or the usfl when they were split up um and went to Dallas and he was in a kicking battle last last summer at training camp as well and Jeff I’m sure that was a question was on the big stage in the NFL will he be able to do that so I do think like once you get into the NFL lock room and you start working with NFL coaches and NFL special teams and like just think about it like with um with these other kickers in that room guys who have been there I think that’s going to help Elevate his game that much more because like with Brandon Aubry I’m sure it was a very similar situation we know he had the leg and he can be consistent but there are times to where he struggles because you know he hasn’t played at that high level yet because Brandon Aubrey didn’t play he wasn’t a kicker before that he played soccer it’s the same similar thing with Jake Bates to where he really didn’t kick field goals before last year this was his first time so I think now it’s like uh saki played two positions never focused on running back now he focuses on one position he’s going to hopefully be a lead at it it’s a same thing with Jake Bates now he’s able to just to be like straight kicker in training camp get get a lead at it figure it out yeah uh it’s it’s worth a shot for the Lions they bring him in you get to see what he has if he wins a job great if he doesn’t cool whoever’s the best kicker will come out on top if it’s James Turner then it’s James Turner but it’s more competition I like the I like the room better than I did yesterday yeah so I just like the fact that they’re going to battle it they’re going to make each other better like whoever comes out of it I and I don’t think honestly you guys want to be to be honest you know who I I think it’s a 1 a 1B like the battle is going to be between James Turner and Jake Bates and I think Michael Badgley it’s like hey sorry I know you’ve made a kicks but like you’ve been pretty like in training in OTAs in mini camps you’re supposed to be the vet kicker and you’re the one that’s missing all of these kicks in in in mini camp that and Jeff to your point that’s just in mini camp even if you kicked a made a kick in the playoffs you’re missing K kicks in many Camp like you’re being inconsistent I don’t want my Kicker to be doing that I want a guy like James Turner who’s gonna consistently hit whether it’s in a game situation training camp OTAs same with Jake Bates and the difference is you at least have a sample size with uh Michael Badgley in game James Turner has yet to play in an NFL game so Michael badley also got cut from your team last year too so true I do think Michael Badgley is gonna be the odd man out but I don’t think they’re just like brushing him to the side after struggling in OTAs I still think they’ll go through the training camp obviously with those three guys and they’ll still have to fight for his job but I I I just there’s at this point in time like Brer said the potential with Jake B like if he goes out there and even has a halfway decent or like matches up with those guys I feel like there’s no way that he doesn’t walk away our kicker yeah badgy you said inconsistent that’s about right I mean there was days where he struggled there was days where he hit 15 straight it was reported by risden so you know it’s just up and down and and I I think getting to a point where you’re legitimate Super Bowl contenders and you can’t you can’t really afford inconsistency from the kicker position even though it’s hard to nail that position but again we always bring it up every time we talk about this I me go back look at Super Bowl matchups and look at kickers typically good teams also have good kickers it’s just how it works you need someone you can rely on and I just don’t know if badgley’s that guy come you know on the big stage especially when you need him to to get you a three to go up late in the fourth quarter or it’s overtime and and it could be the game it’s just I I don’t know if I trust him I don’t think Dan does either despite Dan being a more aggressive coach it’s just the reality of it uh it just is uh Ed O’Neil says I trust Bates against that 55 y well it’s fair you know that that is fair I don’t I don’t hate that I don’t know people shiot says Badgley get ready to learn Chinese buddy it’s aggressive but he could be right Tom you said this you put this up earlier Jake Bates was the last Stone in the Lions Infinity gaunt Super Bowl hero combo I do Jeff we mean you’ve had the conversation about these contending teams in the NFL when you look at these kickers they have kickers whether you use them or not like if Dan Campbell uses a kicker or not these contending teams that are contending for a Super Bowl year in and year out they have some of the best kickers throughout the whole entire NFL and that’s what you’re looking to have and and you can always upgrade Michael Badgley I’m not saying he’s hit his ceiling but we know who he is and what he’s going to be now on the other hand Jake Bates whether he’s inconsistent a little bit and he hasn’t really played at that level yet you know his ceiling is a 100 times higher than Michael badgy you know his ceiling is that his ceiling is probably like one of the best kickers throughout the NFL like could Brandon Aubry or Harrison buter like those guys who can make those kicks those big time kicks that’s his ceiling you don’t have that in Michael Badgley so you want to find a guy whether it works out or not get a guy in your building that has has that ceiling and if it works out now you’re set and if it doesn’t now you’re just where you were before and you don’t lose anything out of it like that’s all it is right it’s it’s you’re not losing it like there’s nothing that loses and it’s a good PR stunt probably here to bring Jake Bates in oh yeah that’s what the NFL’s all about especially some of these teams Jay-Z says serious talk I heard Bates got rolled up on in a late game and may be dealing with an ankle injury well that’s something the Lions would be aware of you know so at least to some extent so I I I’m not too worried about it he’s got some time here to to heal up depends on how really depends on the the ankle injury I mean ankle injury could be anything is it a sprained ankle or is it high sprain I guess it just depends I don’t know anything about an ankle injury though so Jay-Z you might you might have that over I’m sure if they did I bet you that by the time training camp comes around it’s GNA be like you’re good I know ankle for a kicker is probably tough beine uh shout out to is it Sheen coffin sheen sheen coffin baby is that is that how you pronounce it well regardless thank you for becoming a crunch member we appreciate you uh thank I think that’s a new member as in I’ve never seen it before so welcome to the channel we appreciate you guys uh we’re about 400 away from 8,000 subscribers ladies and gentlemen and as well I want to make this very clear before we get into all the discussions um in real quick Jay-Z says Jeff rizen and Chris on the DLP said it yeah then then it’s correct I mean Jeff and Chris are great so yeah real quick shout out Freddy Fel too 313 Legend man there you go Freddy Fel yeah shout out to Freddy Fel man he’s a real one he’s an OG uh before we move on here I know you guys have probably noticed we are now crunchtime Sports uh that is going to be the name moving forward that is the brand crunchtime sports CT Sports and our apps have changed across most platforms official CT Sports so merchandise uh being updated if you have the it’s not really much of a difference if it says with Jeff I Freddy or Boer or whatever it is I mean it’s all relatively it’s all the same logo but we official CT Sports on pretty much everything in crunch time Sports going forward so that’s the brand sounds nice crunch time Sports sounds beautiful it sounds legit sounds like a a sound just sounds very legit I love it so that’s um bigot that’s the that that’s official so that’s what it’s going to be across everything truth teller says say we got Jake B please please confirm we did we did it will be official Tuesday [Laughter] yeah uh all right let’s uh let’s let’s move on here we got a lot to get to uh ESPN’s Mike Clay put out something that I saw amek Robertson retweeted when it was uh already shared and ESPN ESPN’s Mike Clay does this thing every year where he does 2024 NFL projections like a box score projection like he projects the quarterback stats the running back stats he project he projects all this stuff I think it’s based on like averages as well I I don’t I don’t think there’s like I don’t think he personally predicts every single thing what up [Music] cl cl clsy real quick before Jake bat is a Detroit Lion what do you think yeah great Friday Adam veter just walked into Allen Park guys I mean the kicker situation solved no I’m I’m happy he’s he’s in the building I’m happy that he decided to stay local to your guys’ points what you were saying earlier it’s probably the best situation for him to be given that he’s in a dome but I’m not jumping over over heads and heels just yet just because I’ve seen plenty of kickers who are very successful in college that you could argue there’s a more intense situation more pressure to kicks and then they fall on their the NFL so am I happy that Jake to join the line yes but I want it’s one of those things where I want to see it first I want to see it first CL good thing he didn’t kick field goals in college brother can’t fall that’s that’s what that’s exactly what I’m saying like he didn’t kick field bus in college and he’s you would say that there’s probably less pressure in the UFL than College like there when you’re a power five college game winners and I would agree I would agree but to be fair got a leg there was a lot of pressure when we were there we were in attendance he knew we were there he saw us he looked at us that’s Boer over there and then guess what he did kind of folded he missed a kick it was the aura it was the Boer Aura just shook yeah I don’t yeah icas I don’t Tom Brady you wanna you want to wait and see Sky Brady easy in the chat all right let’s get to this ESPN’s Mike Clay uh he does these uh 2024 season projections with like statistics and stuff like that so let’s go through some of them it’s like an entire box score offense defense and you get to look at some of the stats that he has for this year and you’ll see it all don’t you worry you’ll see rushing yards and what he thinks everyone will have I think again it’s based on average I I don’t know averages or maybe he’s just throwing [ __ ] at the wall seeing if it sticks but let’s look at what he thinks the Lions will do statistically all right we love stats don’t we just stats are great so let’s look at these stats we’ll start with uh the offense because I think we’ll break that down first let me just get this ready for you guys okay I haven’t seen this yet so I’m interest I’m very it’s very it’s weird it’s weird but here we are we’re in June all right let’s let’s see it so this is ESPN’s Mike Clay uh this look at what he has for Jared G so look at Jared gof okay he’s got 15 games played he has Kendon playing in two all right so you see you see it all right playing in two 23 TDS 10 picks 31 sacks taken which that is uh hey it’s fine um rushing rushing TD is whatever but basically a a pretty much a step back I guess for Jared uh based off these projections henen hooker plays two games a good three passing touchdowns two interceptions would like to see the win l in those games I don’t know why he’s hurt why Jared G’s hurt I don’t I don’t get it this is crazy this is this is fake right7 got a whole pamplet it’s legit how many Boer I’ll let you run with it after this how many yards did Justin Fields throw for last year like I’m I’m it was probably a little bit less than 3700 but that is terrible Bo passing TD it’s 4,000 it’s 4,000 there’s no way there’s no way I mean I know we’re going down this whole list here but just look at the whole this this is wrong I don’t even know if we should give this time honestly this is this is embarrassing from what’s his name Mike Clay Mike Clay M clay I’ve been I’ve been on a streak of call not GNA call him a name I’m not gonna do it don’t call names Bo because maybe we can get him on the show and I don’t want to do it but this is the dumbest the the worst written article whatever it is prediction I’ve ever seen in my life in football should hang his credentials up and never talk football again 3,700 yards for Jedd 520 attempts it’s not even disrespectful it’s just how are you how are how are you like allowed to even talk football like that’s the dumbest thing of all time you literally have two running backs on this team who almost eclip a thousand yards last year and you don’t even have either of them going over 900 this guy has no what he’s talking about zero not a single player on this on this roster is playing more than 15 games apparently to this guy there’s no like I understand injuries happen but to everybody like it’s not not like somewhere for nine games and somewhere for like 17 it’s like everybody you’re not playing more than 15 games there’s no way this is real this has to be like I just want to get as many cck clicks as I can I know Detroit Lions fans will run with things let me just give every single one of them the lowest thing like this this is this is unbelievable this is a team that had uh Ben Johnson’s returning first of all Ben Johnson’s coming back buddy like come on bud like what are we doing here Ben Johnson’s coming back you just had a top five offense back-to-back years and you’re telling me that this is what’s going to H you can that it’s terrible terrible Jared 520 attempts in uh 15 games okay so if you do that math it’s 34 attempts a game but he’s not thr over 4,000 yards good luck good luck with that that is wild so no this is um this is all I mean we’ll just go to the defense real quick I just thought you guys how many yards hold on how many yards 3700 let me named you Derek Carr had 3,800 last year Sam how had 3900 last year no offense classy I’m just showing that out there 4,000 I mean Gardner muu had 3,300 saying he Gino Smith 3615 games this is embarrassing for him and like the the I don’t want to keep going hey that guy North says cram you should make you should all Make Your Own stat sheet like this could be good off maybe we maybe we come together as a team and we make our own like a crunch one big one make a do what we all say look at the defense God the defense the def we’re missing someone who bets where’s the [ __ ] is point four of a sack half It’s gotta be averages I mean al Five sacks DJ 23 whatever uh Kyle p Levi half a sack yeah Aiden with 10 I mean this is just wait how many total sacks does he have for the team can you go to the very bottom does it show it at the very bottom 43 would be 43 43 T yeah this is terrible this is absolutely terrible I don’t even want to give this any time Mike Clay I mean we could keep we could break it down a little bit more there’s nothing to break down no all right I mean there just more the more embarrassing articles I’ve ever seen we should get Mike Clay on and when we we should like when he comes on we should just attack him I mean he had he had the uh call a name but you want to attack him when we bring him on okay I’ll call him a name he’s a loser call him a name oh no I know I called someone to Loser the other day and someone commented was like how about this grown man who makes less money than than these players calling them losers well when you lose a football game you technically are a loser like I don’t know what else to tell you to be fair I mean to it fits his narrative because Mike Clay I see on here his worst part of the team in terms of position uh I it’s a big red uh colored number is is DB so uh yeah that’s it and then he also has projected wins 10.6 he had can you pull it back up please I’m sorry I’m Gonna Keep I thought we okay all right let’s pull it back up there’s just one thing sorry I apologize can you go to the defensive lineman no M betoon aen Hutchinson you’re telling me Aiden Hutchinson’s gonna regress this year what are we doing like 10 and a half sacks for a Hudson he just had 11 what are we doing here and a having less sacks than last year yeah it Reader uh if they if they if this is how it looks we got a lot of things we got to reconsider here okay there’s a lot of things we got to reconsider uh kind of like this take that was put out by Mark Ryan uh that works for 971 I actually like Mark I don’t think he’s a bad guy I I mean he’s had some takes that you know he’s putting out on the airwaves not on the airwaves necessarily but on Twitter I don’t really listen much to 971 but he’s put some stuff on Twitter that’s CA some controversy and he put something on there and he knew he was staring the pot man when he put this out uh and that’s I’m G to show you guys the tweet didn’t get to it yesterday but man I want to see our chat’s reaction to it so basically Mark Ryan put out this yeah and again you got to think Mark Ryan’s not from Detroit okay so he he works R 71 but he’s from a different state he’s coming in and this is what he notices about the Lions hanging up in NFC North Banner he says gotta be honest a massive Banner downtown for winning a four team division misses the mark for me I know the history four time to win a division first it’s become the north Barry Sanders is always acting like he’s been there before this isn’t that save it for the superl oh my God all right let one of you guys go first because I have something on this and I’ll let you guys and then I’ll and he went through and listed division titles which I like no one’s surpris I mean okay yeah this is Minnesota Green Bay we get it all right and uh he put this AI response on Google no the green do not hang Division champion at Lambo field according to Mike McCarthy and Brian go the Packers general manager division titles are not the main goal in Green Bay I remember when he said that too we we broke it down on this show but I’ll ask you fellas take it away what where are you at where with where Detroit sports fans are we’ll just start with lions fans with their expectations sh when does that rise to celebrating divisions to eventually trying to celebrate a Super Bowl win when they get that where are you guys at I don’t think divisions will be celebrated after this year it’s just been so long now that they finally got that off their shoulder I think like it it just had to be done I mean these Lions fans were so excited all this year obviously we fell short in the NFC championship game but we had one of the best seasons if not one of the yeah no probably if one of the best seasons ever in this franchise so just for the fans being hyped after so many years being down it really doesn’t matter like I don’t think they’re going to be doing this moving forward it’s not going to be a year-by-year thing if they keep winning the north but for one year whatever it is what it is yeah I mean the city of Detroit has not had winning specifically in football but then you look outside of it I mean we know we we talk about the Pistons all the time just how they’re a complete joke Gentry no offense the Red Wings haven’t been really anything significant in the last couple of years and same thing with the Tigers I mean the Tigers especially the beginning of last year looked horrid so all this whole city just deprived of sports happiness and especially when the Lions have I would say their best season in the the team’s history yeah you’re going to celebrate it because times are different and you got to build the culture within the city you got to let you got to let the city know that there’s a winner here again and I think when you do that you have the Jared golf chance you have the draft here it’s just building a winning mentality for the team and it’s building the culture with the Lions so if you hate it I’m sorry but that’s also what’s helping us stay alive with the fans being excited if there’s not stuff like that fans aren’t as happy they don’t care as much about the lines we don’t get paid yada yada yada so shut up just shut up interesting yeah to me I do want to say one thing too isn’t that the same guy that was cheering for the Tigers being mid and being 500 and yeah it was most mediocre team in the MLB their entire being dog [ __ ] so that’s okay he’s okay with the tigers being mid but he’s not okay with the champion Banner being hung so from his perspective uh he comes in he sees it and he goes a that’s weird you know you have to really be not trying to gatekeep but I am gatekeeping you really got to be from this this city or at least be a lions fan for a long period of time to understand how much that Banner means like this oh my gosh what people have had to endure what people have had to watch for most of their lifetime and I he brought up at the End Barry Sanders dude Barry Sanders would even approve of them hanging up the bannner so don’t bring Barry into this he’s not backing you up either all right that the Lions can enjoy this moment what I will say like Gentry said there will be a point in time where you’re winning divisions and you don’t have to hang them up but a 30-year drought to me is worth celebrating I mean it’s worth it’s not just the division it’s what that division represents it’s a it’s an organization that finally has learned how to be competent that’s what that Banner represents and the Lions doing so I think let the fans enjoy this moment not just this moment but this period of time where the lions are actually relevant so I think this was a reach by Mark I I get what he was trying to do it just completely missed saying that oh they should have higher expect they they think the Lions will go out and win a Super Bowl that’s what’s expected but again the banner isn’t just Oh yay we won the NFC North like it’s our no they they expect to control this Division and I think eventually the division won’t mean as much when the Lions fully you know are are are able to celebrate multiple division wins you know it’s it’s the first one in quite some time the Packers of course they don’t celebrate divisions they had a Hall of Fame quarterback and they were running through the NFC North you know so in other teams as well they’ve been good they’ve had times where their teams were successful and won their division the Lions have not so I have no problem with the Lions hanging up a banner like to as of right now now if we’re 10 years down the line and lions have a couple divisional wins and they’re still hanging up banners it’s like okay guys like let’s get past it but right now absolutely not I have no issue with it so this this is where I’m gonna go with it and you guys know me I have been the biggest supporter I’ve been the the Boer all of that you guys already know where I stand when it comes to the Detroit Lions and the support and everything with it first of all the expectations in that tweet saying that hey the expect ation should be higher if you were here 12 months ago this time last year the expectation was never Super Bowl 12 months ago for the Detroit Lions the expectation was let’s get our first division our first NFC North ever and he and and again Mark Ryan like I follow him on Twitter fan of Mark Ryan I have listened a little bit have follow his tweets not saying this in a bad way but you weren’t here 12 months ago when the expectations were different you’re here 12 months later now that the expectation is Super Bowl that’s when things change things were not there was no Super Bowl expectations 12 months ago it was let’s get to the playoffs let’s win a playoff game let’s win the division that was the expectation we haven’t done that in 30 40 years so the fact that you get it done and the Detroit Lions not just the Detroit Lions the city of Detroit the fans everyone involved for the last 40 50 years all of those guys involved we waiting for that Jeff I see what you’re doing down there lock in all these guys were were involved everyone deserves a banner everyone deserves to see what’s going on in the signs here in Detroit that is like everyone deserves that you have if you have not gone through that for 40 years you don’t deserve to even have a comment on it now I’m gonna say this going forward Jeff you said a couple years you said oh maybe in a couple years 10 years down the line you can stop paying the expectation going forward is that there is no more NFC North banners hung in the city of Detroit no more that was last one that gets hung in my opinion you are a Super Bowl contending football team now winning the NFC North means nothing anymore it’s you just went to the NFC championship game and you lost you blew a 17-point lead guess what that is now now you’re trying to get to the Super Bowl that is all that matters going forward now is going to a Super Bowl and winning that do not like yeah I would love to stack up NFC North championships would love it you already did it you we said that was your expectation that was step one of building that was step of the tear down and rebuild is to go win an NFC North doesn’t matter anymore more you did it just like Jeff last year when we got in that argument when you were like I just want that playoff win all right playoff win got that we’re done Super Bowl now there should be no more NFC North baners hung it should be strictly NFC championships in Super Bowls going forward so that’s where I’m at with it I think that was I think it’s perfectly fine I think I took a picture of that four months ago and posted on on crunch time four months ago that same exact thing and everyone loves it as soon as it went up like the city embraced it because you just won the first NFC North ever so like there there should be none of that conversation like if that would have if this would have happened 12 months down the line and you won a second NFC North championship and you went and lost the NFC Championship again then I would sit there and be like yeah maybe I’m on his side a little maybe like let’s focus on winning a Super Bowl because we know where we’re at now as an organization so yeah that’s just where I I think that’s exactly what it is now I think and I’m sure a lot of people would agree with me that now the expectations is winning a Super Bowl so those banners don’t even matter anymore but let the fans let the people let the team let the organization let the city enjoy winning a a historic season at that that was a historic season and and I last thing I want to say here too the only thing I don’t like there are a lot of people that did go at at Mark because of that comment I will say this and I don’t know where you guys are at with this a lot of the comments are like oh you’re not even from Detroit I I don’t mind having an outside voice of from Detroit the thing I don’t like is saying whether like you shouldn’t be able to enjoy this like you shouldn’t be able to hang these and enjoy it the outside voice of saying hey fellas like the expectation going forward is this now it’s good to have an outside voice of of people outside of Detroit to say hey this is you know I mean because obviously we’ve been losing for the last 50 years yeah I mean it’s new to us I think IM winning the okay and this is the only two things I think it applies to to say you know like for example the Steelers I’m sure the Steelers don’t hang division banners I’m sure Packers obviously don’t oh speaking of ESPN in the background uh I’m sure that the Steelers don’t hang division banners like these teams that have won Super Bowls I’m sure they don’t W they don’t hang division banners the Lions aren’t that the NFC North means a lot but once you get to a point where you’re rattling off NFC North division uh titles and let’s say they win a Super Bowl I think that’s when division titles you’re not hanging them up you know you’re hanging up I think you just stop hanging them up now teams in the NFL do it after you like the reason we did it and I’m pretty sure they took the ones down in in Allen Park it’s just you do like they did it because you just it was the first time in 40 years I don’t think it’s like a consistent thing around the NFL that’s why I’m like now that we’ve done it and and we got to like that’s not a ban that Banner is going to be down before the season starts I’ll guarantee you that that Banner changes every six months I worked in that building it changes every six months so this is it’s it’s like a sign being like congratulations you guys want like yeah which they deserve yeah they yeah they they they deserve uh they will get to a point you know they’ll get to a point run the run the NFC North for a decade you know half a decade maybe string off the Super Bowl and then we can start talking about okay now screw these divisions we got a Super Bowl that’s what we’re hanging that’s what you’re hanging up So eventually you’re not GNA hang up 15 10 division to Adam to Adam’s winning the division is key to the playoff SE no success no duh like you get the you get a home field you get a home game and you’re a top four seed if you win the division that’s a fact that makes sense but once you get to a certain point and like once you’re winning divisions and you win the first one after a big drought you don’t need to sit there and like keep putting banners like I’m I’m not going to S like I want a Super Bowl like I I don’t I’m not content with the division anymore I I want a Super Bowl and if anyone in the chat disagrees with me put it in there right now because I bet you every single one of you want a Super Bowl the Bucks every single year aren’t just putting banners up for winning like the Atlantic division or whatever division they’re in and getting the on like you know what I mean there’s a point like the reason the reason this is a conversation is because they put the sign up and the sign was up because they won the first division in 30s something years in the first NFC North ever that sign’s gonna come down and if they win it next year they’re not going to put another sign up like this isn’t like a a permanent Banner they’re taking it down like this conversation’s stupid it’s dumb you’re not putting banners up every year for a division now it’s Super Bowl time if you’re going to sit here and tell me that you would rather have a North NFC North Banner than a Super Bowl Banner you AR you guys are argu he’s arguing something different Adam’s over here arguing with me like I said it’s fine I likeed that they put the banner up open your ears old man no man he’s a father now I apologize no one no one is arguing the importance of winning the NFC North no one is arguing the importance of winning the NFC North we’re arguing is there will be a time where winning the NFC North it’s always going to be important but in terms of hanging up banners you’re you’re G you’re want you want to hang up that Super Bowl Banner like you’re not all I want yeah so and I’m with Bo like after this year yeah no one’s disting whether or not the N north of course you want to win your division yeah yeah I just saw I just saw people were still saying like oh we should do it next year and the year after and the year after I’m like I’m fine with this like the banner was a celebratory thing you haven’t won one in 36 years it was like yes we did it boys let’s go they like put it up through put a banner up in every part of the city yeah like that was that was the dumb part of him complaining about that like what what are we complaining about that for you weren’t here 12 months ago all right I’m sorry rant over yeah see Adam agrees no one’s saying it doing do it every year okay so he agrees okay I’m confused he put in theat making me puke yeah obviously we got to get to that point but hey hey Mark Ryan he caught a lot of he think that post in total has like 80 something quote tweets of just people ripping him apart so yeah that was probably not one for him to I I don’t hate his like perspective he’s stood on business though stood on today at it Jazz I mean he’s a dog absolute dog you know who else is a dog is Big low big low who lus Brown who lus Brown oh yeah say lus brown yeah big low big low they call calling that man big low no one calls him big low stop calling that big he he spoke to Wood TV he was at a charity golf outing and he had some comments on the D short Lions one about Brad Holmes and the possibility of a team potentially trying to poach him in the future away from the Lions and also he talked about uh comparing this Lions team this past Lions team to when he played when they made the NFC championship game I well you didn’t I can’t believe you were you were like big low put some respect on big low all right next time next put some respect on big low I call this r i mean there’s only there’s only one lus Brown in this world that’s all you got to say me I only know one L there you go let’s get let’s get to this clip again give credit to but uh let’s hear let’s hear Lis uh big low I would love you call that I would love to hear what he sayig hey big low Jeff I here Hollywood have you guys ever met have you I’m sure you guys have probably all met lus right I have not I have I have not his hands are [ __ ] gigantic like I’ve never like I shook his hand and it felt like I was like my eight-year-old nephew or something shaking my like it I felt like a child yeah he’s show yeah the a great dude I’ve never I don’t think I’ve ever seen him pissed at least at least post career he’s just always happy I mean look at him talk about the Lions he absolutely loves them so let’s hear let’s hear Lis on uh comparing this team to when he played let’s hear what he had to say yeah this is the one franchise that’s been here for the entirety of the Super Bowl era that hasn’t been there yes do you break down the wall yes I I think so I mean I thought we got it last year I thought we were going to break it down last year but now I think these guys have the experience I know how it was when I played in my first NFC Championship guy in I mean your eyes are wide open you don’t know what’s going on I think now that they have that experience when they get back to that big stage again they’ll handle it a lot differently you were on that first team to make it to the NFC championship game then you got to call this one are there similarities between these two or or what is it about this team that’s made it so special you know what I it is some similarities but I just think this team they don’t they’re not carrying the baggage from the past they they you know they’re they’re uh forging their own pathway and that’s what I enjoy I think we I think we might have carried some of the baggage of some of the teams that never got a opportunity that didn’t get there but I think this team they so young they don’t care you know and they don’t and they’re so Carefree so I think with the combination of Dan and they got a great leader and Dan Campbell I mean he is such a great guy and he’s the right person to lead that team so yeah I think similar in certain ways but I think these guys are forging their own path it seems like after you guys won that NFC Championship game it wasn’t long before a lot of the locker room leaders were gone yes this time they’re locking them up yes how important is that oh that’s so important cuz you’re right about that I remember me and SPI leaving in 1995 then guys like Kevin Glover Benny Blaze Mel gray I mean some of the staple guys that helped build that organization to me I think this window was open at least four to five more years because like you said they signed their young guys they got them under contract and some of these impact guys I’ve never been on the team where I seen some of the young guys come in and make such a big impact early and that’s what’s going on with this team so yes I think this window I think this window should be open at least four more years four years you heard low four years and wow hey love that the comparison the question about comparing this team to when he when he played that was the big thing with that Lions team is is all the players I mean you watch the documentary about Barry which was a great watch by the way but they went into that how after they had that that run a lot of players departed and they weren’t able to keep key players uh key key players and that’s kind of been the opposite of what the Lions have been doing I mean they they made an NFC title game and they resigned like some intrical part intrical parts of their football team resign them so hey he’s he’s right and the lions are doing it differently which goes back to that Banner discussion it kind of celebrating the brand new Lions which a competent organization which is it is the the end of that whole interview him saying the fouryear window like I think that’s the biggest question that everyone has with the Lions is like how is Brad Holmes building this and every single time and I don’t know if you guys noticed this every time you saw one of these extensions come through online a lot of the comments I saw there’s like half of people like yeah let’s go and then the other half like with Jared GF like oh no like like now you just pay like you just closed that window up a little because you you know now you’re money tied to someone and I think like to L’s Point like this window’s a four-year Gap and then not even just that right before he said that he mentioned how so many new guys and rookies come in instantly and make an impact on this football team to where when you do pay guys like Jared GF and I’m and Ron pan like now you’re just getting new guys in here and all of them are finding success it’s not like just a couple guys you literally just paid multiple guys that you drafted and found success and one in the very very late rounds now you’re able to be like hey this this window’s very very well opened for the next four years I remember before the golf contract fell was what did I tell you the window fiveyear window window go get me get me two Super Bowls in the next 5 years that was my like my big talking point was like this window is way more open than people think and there was the conversation the day after losing the NFC championship game of people saying oh no is the window closed is next year the only window you have no this thing is like Brad Holmes Chris Spielman they have built this thing for like a this is a this is one of those windows that sliding door window this isn’t a small car door window this is a sliding door window this thing’s wide open for the next four years yeah another interesting thing he talked about was just like how they are going to recover from last year and how like this group of guy these young guys are kind of just ready to put their head down and work and get back to that point obviously with the tough loss to San Fran but these guys are ready to hit the ground running and get right back to where they were and he spoke to how the young guys are really like have that mentality so like that’s that’s a really good thing and how we spoke that the young guys are making immediate impact so to have your roster built the nucleus is really young players and they get that moment early on in their career it it’s great that’s especially when lus was talking about how important it is that the key players are staying here that’s why I got so agitated that one tweet one time when it talked about all the teams that made it to the NFC championship game in never return like that Atlanta Falcons team with Julio when you have all those contracts leaving when you have all those key players departing then yes I can understand where you can see the downfall of the Detroit Lions and why that’s going to be so again I could see that situ sitation but when you are keeping all these same same players and like LMA said just stuttered like a [ __ ] there my God but like L said when you have all these young players that are playing at Pro Bowl level caliber All Pro level caliber in p and AMR St Brown this thing isn’t going anywhere they could have a down year with injuries to get hit by an injury bug and I still believe this team the following year would recover and go right back to the same form because what does that mean they’re probably have a down record they’re probably get better draft pick so that’s another way that they could reload Talent that’s already there so this team’s not going anywhere and I think it’s a little bit ignorant for you just to look at a a roster and say oh they made it the NFC championship game they’re not getting back I could see where you’re talking about okay they’ll probably get to divisional round but you look at the Cincinnati Bengals the reason why they were so good especially offensively they had really good young players you look at San Francisco when they recovered and they they brought in Kyle Shanahan you look at Debo Samuel and George KD on rookie contracts that was huge form Fred Warren on rookie contracts that’s huge form the Lions have that same type of situation going on so I think it’s just going to be a probably four five even sixy year window of the Detroit Lions cooking and it’s crazy too I mean the Lions have had great players I mean they’ve had a wide receiver the receiving yard record holder and Calvin Johnson one of the greatest I would say the second greatest wide receiver of all time and you have Barry who’s unquestion the goat and then you have Matthew Stafford who he’ll be a Hall of Famer you say what you want about him but he’ll be he’ll be Hall of Famer and they just have not been able to build around these players I mean the most success they had was with Barry and uh they didn’t ultimately win a Super Bowl obviously and and they have not yet to win one or make one but they have an organization now that builds correct they they know how to build a roster and that comes from the top down that’s credit to Sheila for a lot of that I mean they’ve had great players just never amounted to any success but you look at what lus said I want to break this down he said four years and and when I watched this I was like why do why would he say four years and the only Theory I have on this is and I could be just reaching here but this is my takeaway and I want your guys’ thoughts and we’ll get to some comments because I got a couple saved here we can break down four years you got some young guys that are gonna have to get paid in four years close to so I I would assume unless Brad unless but Brad at the same time continues a draft really well so if you do that then you could replace guys but do you think that has any relation to what he said is it with Sam leaport and all these got Brian branch and these guys coming up for contracts the next four years you think there’s anything related to that or you think he was just saying four years because I I think those two things could be correlated with all the players that up for contracts you think it’s just four years I think literally he was just like four years because because wouldn’t you say it’ll be open for a while you know what I mean yeah but I think he was just I don’t I don’t think he was looking that deep into I know like it’s your job to kind of look into it that deep but I don’t think you like I bet you in four years cuz it’s it’s like at the end of the day it’s you’re going to have to pay guys but it’s it’s literally what I was saying before it’s like if Brad Holmes keeps drafting the way he W he is that Windows just going to keep extending and extending and extending and like when you look at some teams that are Elite a lot of those players like look at the Rams that won a Super Bowl you have an older Matthew Stafford an old Aaron Donald Jaylen um uh what’s his name Ramsey that ends up leaving because he’s getting older in the contract like there’s a lot of players like that Odell that was old there’s sence team even with these young guys they signed how many guys on that top 25 under 25 did they have on that list like six or seven guys they stacked it up and that’s not even taken into account who Brad Holmes drafts this year next year the year after whether you have to get rid of guys or not like that window that’s why I think the window is kind of unlimited right now like yeah four years with the contracts you just signed because those are four-year contracts five-year contract extension so I think that’s like a a good like viewpoint but going forward like that can just keep getting pushed back depending on some of these guys working out like keeping Bri the Brian Branch the Jack Campbell how do these guys work out Sam Lea you’re gonna have to get rid of some guys but again you’re going to consistently keep drafting more so it’s gonna help out I agree I think there’s some legitimacy to it just because I mean how many NFL teams have dominated for a decade or even six years or seven years so I think when you look at this roster right now to Boer your point you can only see four year down the down the line with the contract cont s but it’s super hard especially with what these players are going to be doing in those contract years to stay at the top for that long so even if it is for four years I’d be thrilled with that because there’s not many teams that can dominate the NFL like I think the Detroit Lines are going to be able to do so it’s going to be a hell of a run like I mean the Pittsburgh Steelers they were dominant for a decade but there was years where they were nine and eight when they were 10 and six and same thing with the Packers they were year when they won the division at nine and seven I always think as long as Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell and Sheila are running this team that it’s going to be fun function so but at that time there’s also going to be years where there’s a dip in the roster so with this roster right now it’s Sky High but I don’t think it’s fair to just think that it’s always going to be this way especially when they’re going to be winning consistently yeah it’s it’s fair I mean lus winning to uh Brad Holmes a little bit talked about it the uh importance of Brad Holmes what he means to this organization and why he hopes the team doesn’t poach him away which i’ I’ve actually never heard that uh but let’s let’s hear lus on Brad Holmes GM is Brad oh man he is the be look we gonna have to keep teams from trying to poach him I’m telling you man cuz when you have success people want to duplicate it and the only way they can is kind of to get the architect that set it out man he is phenomenal and I love his energy man his energy is there his passion is there for the team man he’s a great guy he’s always thinking two or three steps ahead of everybody else and I think that’s what that’s the magic s to Brad he said the magic sauce I love lus man he’s just such a great dude and he put in there hope no team tries to poach him we’ve seen that in the NFL by the way I I don’t think it’ll happen with Brad in all seriousness what examples are there because I’m I don’t that would be nuts I don’t even want to think about losing Brad Holmes and to his point Brad is by far one of the most passionate GMS in the entire league I mean we’ve seen it throughout the playoffs and throughout the end of the season so that that’s 100% facts I would be shocked like shocked for how passionate and how much Brad has now came into Detroit and has loved the city of Detroit you see him like in the elevator screaming running across you know opposing Fields high-fiving Lions fans like you see all of that I would be so shocked to see Brad Holmes leave Detroit like just just for like yeah and like just to for him to leave for another job just to keep doing what he’s doing here like think I would be absolutely shocked and as well too there’s no way Sheila doesn’t just throw him the bag if he’s getting poached from somewhere else like that that would be the quickest way for a city in a fan base to turn on a owner is if something like that happened and she just didn’t offer him enough that would be crazy I would single-handedly try to burn down the city I would be so mad life isn’t fair I’d feel like a family member died or something it just would not like could you imagine that notification on your phone I chain myself to the front door of alen Park until they get Brad holes back you’ll see me handcuffed to the front door in Allen Park until they fix that dude reaction but that’s fair that and I’ll just admit it because you know I’m honest that would start a deep hatred for Brad Holmes if he left I would be so backstabbed I don’t it’s just but yeah if he left LeBron it’s different oh it would depend on the situation it would depend on the situation yeah that’s player to okay relax all right player to GM I would appreciate what he built but man I’d be so butt hurt about that I’m just being honest I would be so butt hurt but he’s not leaving I think he no go on especially seeing another franchise get him and then brag about having him in their franchise for the future that would be the worst part seeing another team brag on Twitter their fan base everything oh that’d be a sad day yeah it’s not gonna happen it’s just man it’s it’s it’s good hey imagine this conversation all right the last decade before more than that before Brad Holmes all right imagine maybe a team will coming to get Martin mayew it’s like Quinn can I Intrigue you yeah B Quinn imagine Bob quinley you’d be like yeah you take him don’t let the door hit you we’ll pay you we’ll pay you to take yeah we’ll pay you to take him off our hands we’ll pay his salary as long as you keep him we’ll we’ll as long as he’s gone you terrible he says losing Brad will be like watching your ex become a porn star I mean that I had it first that’s all you can say no he did oh my god well you know what dity dog I don’t think you’re too far off I think that’d be both of them are kind of a mind [ __ ] but at least to your point Lucas you’re like well I know I already know but I’m upset still hey I’m still upset damn you know what I’m not upset though fellas because it’s not o’clock on a Friday and to all the 150 plus of you tuning in live we got 170 in here rough fet man hit the like button it really does it supports the channel and subscribe if there’s anyone new in here we post content every single day man we don’t play around but you know what today is Friday and what we’ve been doing every Friday we’ve been consistent you were here last week Lucas you were handl on some business but today you get to experience the over under segment we do on Fridays wait Jeff I’m not gonna forget about Boer Boer we have your question I thought oh yeah Boer question actually let’s do that for a second here we do the question before the segment we have two Friday segment I thought that’s why Boer was giving that look so I tried to I was giving the look because je so I I was giving the look because Jeff was like Jeff was like we have a Friday segment we’ve been very consistent and I’m like dude we did a we started it last week one time yeah like that’s why I thought it was the Boer question I was like how did I miss it or something like that was only one week we’ve got two new Friday segments Friday Friday Friday all right fellas this is this is ask your damn question this is one where you guys are going to have to think a little bit and you might have to and this is one that in the future this is be a follow-up question too that we’re going to do a segment on this in a couple weeks before the season starts this is and I think some people are like this I know Michael Luchi in the chat he might like this because I do I do watch his content on Twitter Jeff why don’t you let me let me do my thing here huh I see you in the background I don’t I’m not controlling this all right go back to go back Bo answer your damn question my question is on both sides of the ball for the Detroit Lions this year I want to know the Detroit Lions will have blank All Pro players all pro not pro bowlers All Pro and I want you to name who they are when you guys you can pull up a depth chart on your own computers over there I don’t even I’m I’m gonna let you guys answer first I’m not going to give them away so I want you guys to go first but you guys blank All Pro players for the Detroit Lions so are we starting on one side of the ball you said we’re starting you could do I want both I want both because I want to no total on the team yeah both how many you think so both Boon you should do like a a trivia question during this as well like a future and then a past question that’s actually what I thought it was at first when you were no no no I’m just gonna keep boer’s question it’s it’s supposed to be like a make you guys think a little bit I I did this on the old show I was on I bring one a week and it got people thinking last week you missed last week’s cloudy last week’s was good I so and can be all pro in general right there’s noic okay I’m gonna go I don’t know how else to explain that just all pro damn man I’m getting just absolutely okay you know what someone else go all right take for a second getting mad take four there there could be more I I don’t know I was debating four or five but leaport St Brown Hutch and pan all right real quick Boon before I go or any anybody how many All Pro defensive ends are there each year because we’re talking about first second team so there’ be what four one two well it’s it’s weird because there’s um Edge rushers so Edge rusher defensive end and then they also do outside linebacker which so like the outside linebackers last year was Michael Parsons TJ watt okay defensive Edge was Miles Garrett Trey Hendrickson and Max Crosby and then Edge rusher was Miles Garrett again TJ watt again Micah and Max Crosby all right here’s mine then a little bit offensively I’m and ra St Brown then we’re go pan then we go jir then I’m trying I don’t know if I want to do leaport or not I think he could be another like we’ll do leaport we’ll do leaport defensively I’ll go Hutch and that sit I’m g go Jack fox go six forgot about Jack I like that Jeff so all pro you’re me for special team you’re brother if if I have to explain all pro to you one more time I’m not talking to you I’m talking to Lucas all right jees yeah that’s what I just because he’s been in that those talks before for sure I love all right so germ technically germ well he’s a pro bowler right was he All Pro yeah I don’t think I don’t think they have like an all they have like kick returner I think all pro germ was an all proo player last year he was a specialer that was the I got I got seven okay I got seven in totality all right I got on offense I got four I got pan Alan rth Frank and Sam leaport okay so similar is this year I think they’ll be all Pros again the only one I’m worried about a little is Frank to be honest I don’t know but I think Frank will still be one of the best centers so I’m gonna go four on offense I’m gonna go two on defense I’m gonna go Aiden Hudson and Brian Branch I think those two are all pros and then for special teams I’m going to go I I’m going to go germ I’m gonna go with my man germ I’m GNA go germ again I think I think germ goes out there and uh you know what he shows out again best special one of the best special teamers in the league so I think he’s all pro so I’ll go seven I’m with you on Branch I should have said Branch too that was my fifth but I did forget about Gibbs I didn’t have Gibbs I didn’t have Gibbs I know I I didn’t expect that out of you don’t you worry that no I did not Bo has not went go on so what were all your guys is Jeff seven we had I had seven seven seven across the board and gentry said six no I had yeah I had four but I’m gonna do five I Branch was the one I left out but I’m putting them in I don’t give a [ __ ] wow okay I’m gonna do this then Aman raah jir Gibbs no I actually take that I’m gonna go I’m gonna go Aman R jir Gibbs SL Sam leapor one of the two I’m going to go pan Frank now Hutch I’m going to go one of the other another Defender whether it’s anzo Jack Campbell Brian Branch Carlton Davis it’s gonna be another secondary another you got a pick no I don’t it’s the number out the question was the Detroit Lions will have blank Pro All Pro players so I’m just I’m counting here you guys are the ones that did the players I’m just counting yeah we’re getting in said to name the players no I I said blank Pro all whatever’s more simple s Porter or or Gibbs Aman ra pan Frank ragnow Hutch another defensive player germ and P and Jack Fox I’m gonna go eight I’m gonna say I agree with this that was a soft answer Boer like I like soft I literally just named them B the the question was how many All Pro players I didn’t say one defensive player Sam or defensive player you guys who do you think it’s gonna be I don’t know give me a player I want a name yeah no I I I said eight I think there’s gonna be eight I’m just where’s the button I’m not I’m booing you Boon hey get back in here Boon where you going I mean I tried to do something good and last week it went well now they were trying to come like it was a good question answer the question we named we all named it was a great you don’t have to you don’t have to he doesn’t have to know Boer you don’t have it was a great question Bo I’m not saying that question oh okay well let’s start the show we’ll just do us all right well we named ours I know you can hear say you better come back you don’t miss the BET what we doing here what are we doing here come on what we you guys just don’t follow directions what you we added a nice spin you added a spin on it it was my it was my question you added a spin on it I didn’t ask you to add a spin on it I said we’re gonna make this a segment we’re gonna make this a segment in a couple weeks grumpy Bo grumpy grumpy try call me out don’t be don’t be a Karen Boon don’t be we just I named The Players you don’t have to oh not just call me a Karen okay let’s get to the next okay I’m kid I take that back I do take that back all right let’s uh let’s move on who cares right all you guys are frozen out of my end and you just look so mad hey let let’s get let’s get to over unders around the NFL we’ll go around Gentry’s got a bunch of over under we can get to so uh Gentry what do you have for us today all right we still have kind of the same thing we did last week we’re going to go through QBs RBS wide receivers and then a little bit extra on the wide receiver but Lucas since this is your first time you get to pick what position we are starting with what what position was last week well we do QBs RBS and wide receivers so you just pick which one we’re starting with okay okay my fault on that and you’re lock in there we’ll start with the uh the old wide receiver position we’ve been heavy on that talk this week I figured you would so all right the first one we’re going to go this is receiving yards too by the way we will do touchdowns after this but first wide receiver Christian Kirk 850 yards over under little Christian Kirk Christian Kirk oh so this is outside the line oh I like this segment I like this segment Christian Kirk 8 850 and most of these lines are actually at uh FanDuel so what what’s the order that we’re going in so we don’t start jumping I’m going to go over I’ll just go I’m going to go over he had seven like he had 750 last year um and he only played at 12 games I think he stays healthy um Ridley’s gone I think Brian Thomas does take a massive role in that offense and I think Trevor Lawrence is a bigger year than he did last year and if if they if Trevor Lawrence stays healthy Christian Kirk stays healthy over 800 should be easy for him I mean the year before when he was healthy for 17 games he had 1100 year before in Arizona he had over nine he had 980 so I I don’t see him now if he stays healthy he’s going to get it Lucas what say you go he just so we can stay in order all right I’ll go honestly because he got a factor in some injuries you know he’s been correct me if I’m wrong but has he been a little banged up little banged up in his career not his unfortunate like just either like a non- contct knee or he takes a brutal hit like to the knee or something I’m gonna go over they’re probably going to rely on him you got a rookie in Brian Thomas Jr Gabe Gabe Davis disappears from time to time so I’m GNA go over I think they L yeah I mean they’re going to make him the wide receiver one they tried to do that last year with Kelvin Ridley and I sent you boys the videos last week but Kelvin Ridley could have had probably 18 touchdowns and 1600 yards last year like the amount of opportunities that he dropped was insane I think Christian Kirk going be way more reliable than that so this is definitely over and he’s he’s by far maybe outside of Evan Ingram just because he is a great security blanket Trevor lawren favorite Target yeah no he is 100% his favorite Target and I think if he does stay healthy he’s going to hit this by a wide Marg and obviously departure of Kelvin Ridley is just gonna help that cause Gabe Davis is not him Boer I’m sorry so Christian Kirk’s getting this 50 but moving on hold keep that music going too I like that on my fantasy team I really thought he was about to popley so did I he had a great week one my Colts yeah he did all right sad story sad story all right this next one is for a special person in the chat puka Nua 1125 yards wait what was it 1125 yards for puka AA wow what are we doing here I’m I’m going to say over I’m I’m going to I’m going to go over 1100 what do have 1400 last year played in all the games I’m going to I’m going to go over 1100 I think he easily gets that this year any else music good it’s it’s good what was it I’m gonna go over the only reason why he won’t is because if he gets injured all right obviously all right and that’s what they’re factoring into this too you know and uh I’m going to go over I think he gets like 1,200 00 I don’t know if he’ll go out and top what he did as rookie year but man he could he’s in he’s any change his diet too so that’s going to be interesting to see how that affects him but I’m going to go I’m G to go over on that pretty confidently bro throwing his nutrition plan in the betting line but no I’m going to go under no I he’s going over I think it’s impossible him with Shawn McVey to go under that he’s going to be the wide receiver one I think by the end of the season just because Cooper cup he’s great there but I think his time is going to come be coming to an end and when you have a wide receiver like puka you’re going to feed him the rock um I think Kiren Williams is going to have a good season but I think they’re going to be going through puka AA no I think he hits this easily I think Cooper cup’s still a great wide receiver but he’s obviously can’t stay healthy and if you trust or ma Matthew Stafford trust you he’s G to get you the ball so I think if as long as pukan n Co is out there he’s going to hit this line so I’m going over Coach 37 says he’s eating impossible meat now yeah hey impossible vegan all right the next one back to the NFC North DJ Moore at 950 yards for DJ Moore oo did he have last year I think he had over a thousand for sure last year yeah different quarterback more I’m going to say he had 1300 last year wow what a big year what is the line 900 950 950 he’s hit that every year besides two seasons in his career I’m gonna say o I’m gonna say over and and and a lot of people probably are going to go under just because nine and you you know you have Keenan Allen and romad dun now but realistically like even in Carolina like he always is getting 1100 plus every year no matter how many games he play he’s going to get his at the end of the day I think him and Kanan both go over a th000 this year I think they have 2,000 yard receivers I think romad dun is going to be the one that kind of goes a little under whatever his line is so I’m going to go puk’s record he said he’s not gonna get it there’s not enough there’s not enough football to go around for him to chase that record so I think DJ Moore is gonna get his and I think it’s same thing with Keenan Allen like last week we did Keenan Allen and his was at 700 that’s like way over as well I think him and DJ Moore both go potentially over a thousand this year oh I’m gonna go over I’m gonna go over but it’s slightly it’s slightly all right I think he just hits this Mark I think I could see him getting a thousand you know we got a factor in Caleb Williams very very fine quarterback but he’s a rookie and he’s he’s gonna have a lot of miles de feat so it’s going to be it’s a rookie trying to pass the ball and spread the ball you got Cole KT who’s a pretty good tight end too and then you got Keenan DJ Moore romad dun and Rome I think you know he’s gonna he’s going to go produce they have good rapport too so he’s going to trust them I don’t know I’m going to I’m going to go over but slightly not confident with this one I remember slightly I’ll be the one to go under I think he’ll be slightly under but I think when you look at Keenan game Keenan’s game he requires a lot of receptions I think when you look at romad dun I think they are going to try to get him and Caleb’s connection going off the bat because that’s the one who’s going to be in Chicago for the longest so I think DJ will be one of those guys who probably have like 900 yards but he’ll probably have eight nine touchdowns I think in the red Zone really be a factor but even just with Caleb growing in the game the fact that they’re playing in Chicago and I think people are are going to be game planning heavy like I don’t think the Bears offense is going to be sneaking up on anyone so I think they know that DJ Moore is going to start out at least as the number one wide receiver so I think production wise it’s not going to be thousand yards but he’ll still be a very good wide receiver yeah I’m going under here too I think he’ll be really close but he may even hit it just barely and hit that a thousand yard Mark but I’m I’m going to go under here did you guys all moving on said overly I just said over slightly here we go Jeff so me and Lucas went under you guys went over all right the next one is actually a tight end Brock Bowers 600 flat wow 600 who’s throwing on the ball Garder you know yes the M show baby Gardner is gonna get that man give me the over yeah give me the over I br br give me the over he’s a dog too by the way he’s the best tight end in this drive class he’s going to 600 600 six easy that’s easy and Gardner menu people under he might have only thrown for 3200 yards last year still a dog he almost took the Colts to the playoffs last season don’t forget about that Gardner mchu is an absolute dog so I think he goes over I think 600 seems low for that to be honest especially after seeing what some tight ends did last year some rookies give me the over I think they’re going to run a lot of them those two tight end sets Michael Mayer can’t forget about Michael Mayer very fine tight end um I think Brock Bowers he is the type of player that Gardner muu is gonna absolutely feed you know he’s he’s just a safety blanket extension of the of w basically a wide receiver at the same time I think he gets a good 600 I could see a little over maybe 650 for his rookie or 700 I wouldn’t be surprised um I think Gardner is gonna love him I think he and he he knows how to get open so that’s really about how they scheme him open so I’m GNA go over he goes out there and gets it hits that over I I think it’s over but it’s going to be close I think just because one they’re going to make sure Devonte gets fed after last year that’s going to be a factor and Antonio Pierce obviously likes jakobe Myers a lot and it is a physical team they’re going to be running the ball a lot and to your point Jeff they did bring in Michael Mayer so there’s going to be some games where I think Brock Bowers kind of disappears a little bit that doesn’t mean he’s not a good player I think he’s going to go on to be a pro bowl All Pro tight end type of player but just this year I wouldn’t expect a huge year out of him production wise I think it’s going to be the Devonte Adam show this year there so you took under Lucas uh slightly over slightly over yeah that’s where I’m at too yeah I’m going to go over I don’t know how much he’s going to go over by but I think he’ll be in that 600 range for sure and actually no no we’re going to switch it up this time we are going back to the NFC North and I don’t think this line was up the last time we talked or else I definitely would have put it in there but Jameson Williams 625 yards and this is an official line on FanDuel 625 for J it’s official strictly oh this receiving yep is receiving let first 625 for J it was on dude that’s 36 yards a game give me that over give me that over give me that over he’s getting I think he’ll he’ll at least double so what is he if he doubles what do he have this year um what was it 3544 so he’s gonna have to more than double uh oh no no no no that’s over that’s over yeah yeah 700 yeah if he doubles it he’s over give me the over easy yeah I think we all just got to stand on business with this one boys we talk about Jameson Williams being the wide receiver too 625 yards I think that’d be a mid wide receiver two year and I think Jameson Williams is capable of much more than that yeah like 600 honestly 6 to 700 was the line that I think all of us had for J this year to be like hey this is what we’re expecting out of him so I think 625 we’re taking that taking that over I expect 700 yards essentially like around that last year Josh ronals had 600 uh Khalif had four almost Bas khif basically had 500 last year so I expect him to do a lot more than khif Raymond did last season um 150 more yards isn’t that much more than khif Raymond so I would I would I expect that to go over yeah I don’t even need to answer the question you know I’m going over so we’re moving on and Lucas already brought this guy up Devonte Adams is set at a thousand yards flat oh a thousand yard I I’ve ever seen I’m feeding the family with this one I am feeding the family with this one Gardner muu look he he feeds a wide receiver ones Michael Pitman I don’t know if you guys saw the year that he had last year compared to the year prior Michael Pitman got fed last year in Jacksonville he fed who was the can’t remember the wide receiver off the top of my head in Jacksonville that he was feeding but he just feeds his wide receiver one he knows that he’s going to go through the system for him to be keeping his job in the NFL he has to execute what the coaches want and when you have Devonte Adams in that game plan you make sure he gets the pill to just point so I think Devonte is going to have a 12 1300 yard type of season yeah he’s getting that pill yeah I mean I’m going over easy uh he’s going to get a ton of targets I know jacobe there but man like you said Lucas you said it perfectly so I I’m I’m going over he has four straight years over a thousand and last year I don’t even know who who his quarterback was half of the Year anyways Jimmy G and Aden ell if Jimmy G completed just one more pass against the lion Devonte Adams was over 150 receiving yards on the game oh yeah but he if he completed two of them he’s over 200 yards yeah I’m I’m G to go over easy all right so this this is the last wide receiver uh receiving yards and then we’ll do uh touchdowns but Jamar Chase 1,200 flat obviously expecting a lot out of Joe burrow this year how did they bounce back 1,200 for Jamar Chase over over over over he had 12200 last year with no Joe burrow in 16 games if he has Joe burrow he is easily getting over 12200 yards that’s not not even a doubt that Line’s way too low it’s the same thing as the Amon ran Brown Line way too low you take the over on 1200 if he with Jake Browning 1,200 yards think about what he would have done last year with W with Joe burrow he would have had another like 1600 yards last year give me the over with that there’s no way he doesn’t and outside of injury there’s no way no way he doesn’t go over 1200 I like that Joe burrow talk out of you Boon you respect them I I’m going to go over he wants that bag and you got to go out and show out so I’m going to go over I think he gets kind of what he did his rookie year which was like 1,400 I can see that this year so give me that give me that number I’m gonna go over gotta stay healthy though I’m scared about that I’m not gonna lie to you yeah yeah Jamar guy one year I think he does go over especially with his frame I think Jamar is a guy that he’s going to suffer injuries obviously but I’m not worried about it with no Tyler Boyd this year the amount of third down catches that Tyler Boyd had over the in the slot over the middle I think Jamar Chase definitely gets a higher workload and I think T Higgins is commanded for money and Jeff your point Jamar Chase he wants to be the highest paid wide receiver in football so he has a hell of a motivation Factor when the he can go out and say you’re going to pay me more than Justin Jefferson now and I think he’s gonna go and do that to your point Boer with Joe burrow coming back I think he be throwing the rock a lot more with Joe Mixon leaving so big year for jar Chase I agree I’m going over so we all went over there was a only two unders that entire time and it was me and Lucas both taking DJ Moore the only UND feel like that’s easy money I feel like they’re almost banking on injuries to take people’s money yeah all right so moving on to TDs we’re going to start in the NFC North with one of our own Sam leaport seven and a half this is easy this is easy what did he have last year I’m pretty sure he had one he get double digit 10 I think he had 10 he had 10 last year yeah I’m gonna go over I because and well too one of the reasons why I would go over on this is he had 10 last year with um with Josh Reynolds there and Josh Reynolds was a guy in the red zone that Jared G consistently looked at a lot like that was that was one of his favorite targets it felt like in the red zone now with him gone I think now you look at uh Sam leaport being even more of a red zone threat he already had 10 touchdowns last year and it’s not just him being a Red Zone threat he he’s a playmaker too off the yards after a catch he will go out there and make plays so I think he goes over seven and a half that that seems like the the right number for him and I think over that I think he easily does that I think another nine or 10 out of him this year o okay this one hey this one I I gotta think about it I’m gonna go over I’m going to say he gets eight I think he gets eight so it’s it’s it’s right there so I’m going to go over but I think he gets eight yeah the Boer the Boer Logic on this one was the correct logic I think he’s going to be a red zone monster with Josh Reynolds leaving I think even when you saw in the playoff games fourth and goal at the one yard line what are they doing they’re throwing the ball to Sam leap pora in the playoff game that they ended up being a score that they needed to win so I think they’re continue to do that not only that but he’s a beast after the catch I mean the touchdown he had against the Broncos where he stiff armed I think it was Alex Singleton into the turf and they went on to get a tutty I mean the dude’s just a monster after the catch so I could see him getting 10 touchdowns again this year cuz he’ll have a couple games where he’ll get two three touchdown games in one all right moving on we’re going to Lucas’s guy here coming back from an injury obviously tank D four and a half tank down four and a half touchdowns Yep this is all touchdowns now I’m gonna I’ll start us off I’ll take over and I know they have Stefan Diggs now and and you have Nico Collins and Dalton Schultz but I think tank Dell he’s just one of those guys he’s an explosive player he he’s a guy that that’ll turn you know a small play into a big play and score a touchdown out of it he did that last year I think I how many games do you guys know how many games he played in 11 or 12 yeah and I think I think he almost had like a touchdown every other game it felt like I don’t know how many had him and CJ stacked on my fantasy team yeah so it feels like he’s just a touchdown Merchant and it’s because he so fast and like he’s he’s just a playmaker so four and a half like even with the new addition with with Stefan digs I think you go over I think he easily gets five let me see I don’t know I’m gonna see how many he had last year because I think he will easily get that number seven and 11 games like like he easily will get to five this year easily yeah him CJ and tank have a they already have Rapport they’re great friends and he’s back this season so even though Stefan’s there and yards are are going to be obviously given out to Stefan he’s going out there he’s going to produce but you got to think though in the Red Zone it’s got to be someone you could trust and tank Dell someone he can definitely trust he’s reliable he’s got great hands too so I’m going to go over yeah not to mention the Red Zone he’s going to have to be getting single covered and he that tank Dell is like any defensive back worst nightmare because he’s too quick for you to go out and if you reach out he’s going to cook you on the corner at the pylon whatever it is he’s just going to be a matchup in the in the red zone nobody wants to face and I think Stefan digs is going to go in there but Stefan digs is going to be the wide receiver three on that team I think Nico’s the one but tank Dell is another guy that’s going to have multiple two three touchdown games I think he probably has five touchdowns by week eight so I think this is easy over there you go yeah we we we agree there je you said over I’m sorry yep yeah I’m going over as well CJ can move the ball around we know that from Ohio State I think tankel is still going to eat no matter what um the next one we are doing is Kyle pittz four and a half oh God under I don’t even I don’t want to talk about him under under yeah don’t care I don’t like KY pits stay away from I don’t care who I love C pits over I don’t care who he has until he proves it back again he I’ll take the under dude had a thousand he broke the record as a oh sick dude that’s awesome man record’s awesome how did you do the last two years with Desmond Ritter introduced Kirk Cousins what’s his over under what’s his over under four and a half you kidding me six total touchdowns in three years oh don’t do that don’t do that and zero of those being in the US all overseas he has six total touchdowns total touchdowns I think he gets four I think he gets four I’m going slightly under I want to be surprised if he broke it but I think Drake London’s a guy that could probably get 10 touchdowns if he really wanted to I think bejan Robbins going to be a Workhorse so I think it’s going to be close but I think Kyle pittz isn’t like a TJ Hockinson so if you want to talk about TJ Hockinson getting fed touchdowns he’s not nearly the Red Zone threat especially when you’re just talking about they you’re not going to put Kyle Pitts out wide I think you can try but I don’t think that’s how you’re G to get Kyle pits touchdowns when you have Drake London so he’ll be close I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it but I think Drake London and bejan are just going to get the work when it comes toou dude NE just looks like a Kyle pitch I think he’s a good player he’s gonna probably he could probably get 950 receiving yards in about 8 n TDS that’s what he’s going to have Hiser he throw it up in the air go what based off what oh Kurt Cousins okay who can throw the ball God like like he’s just some God now I’m talking about numbers in the redone but I don’t think four and a half is asking that much out of him and espe promise you book that I think he’ll be over but it’s only going to be like five or six Drake London I’m sorry Drake London who’s up next after him bejan okay good pass catcher bejan Tyler Alger is definitely going to get some in the how many how many do you think when you’re talking about touch not through the air I’m saying just touchdowns total yeah yeah but through the air who’s who’s better Jeff Jeff who’s better TJ hackinson or kle pittz what are we really doing this obvious DJ hackinson has put up cousin so I’m sure he he he had yeah he’s I’m sure he had eight or nine touchdowns just like Kyle Pitts will have right five no Kyle pittz I promise you going to he finally he finally got a quarterback and he’s gonna produce and he’s gonna put up like I could see him being over like I wouldn’t be surprised at jry point if he had five or but eight or nine nine is crazy dude how many dude where are the TD darn Al Mooney I mean name them I mean he’s never been a touchdown maker ever in his career even at Florida even in like he a guy that gets you yards he sets you up for touchdowns but when you’re in the Red Zone you need to be a physical player because when you’re a tight end you’re going up against safeties and linebackers and I do not think that he’s a guy that can consistently do that in the Red Zone he can get a lot of yards after the catch but I think when you look at it why would you try getting the ball to KY pits when you can hand the ball off to bejan Robinson Tyler alir throw a fade up to uh London I just think there’s easier ways Kyle Pitts is going to have a good year but 950 yard and N touchdowns that is probably the best tight end in football outside of Travis Kelce and I do not think that’s really that’s unrealistic we talk about that with leaport and that’s damn near Le yard 18 wow that’s Lea Lea had 850 and 10 touchdowns that’s he’s not gonna have as much as lorta but he’ll have he just said eight or n touchdowns 900 yard it would not be shocked no I would be I be shocked if I would be shocked disrespecting I would be shocked intangibles but how consistently do they translate into the football field and Kyle pittz has not able dependent position so don’t you think well Taylor hecki Desmond are all trash quarterbacks Taylor haniki dog give him the credit there so who do those quarterbacks usually love to beat tight ends that’s their favorite person on the football field because they can’t throw it deep Kyle pittz he also has struggles with drops if you watch Kyle pittz there’s a lot of drops there he is tangible Galore but it’s when you can consistently put it on the football field and I just don’t think he’s a guy that gives you eight or nine touchdowns can he give you 800 yards absolutely but I don’t think he’s giving you close to double jit touchdowns well I think close because if he get seven eight it’s technically close so I’ll go you’re let’s hey why don’t we mark this down cuz like let’s bookmark this Kyle Pitts eight or nine touchdowns Jeff I how about this how about this Kyle pittz will be a big part of that offense I mean he’s going to be the second he’s going to be the third option we know that you Lally I don’t I don’t care watch he’ll have seven and you guys will be like for sure eight or n’s a lot dude how about this over under you went under I wi over let’s argue that seven and a half oh now we’re raising it fit your n yes because you said eight or nine I said I wouldn’t be shocked got wait wait time out time out 30 second not to fit my narrative that’s your narrative bud what was what was the over under four and a half you said eight or say what did you say I said under but I’m not I would be shock moving onry what’s the next question I wouldn’t be shocked if it was five or six but eight or nine I wouldn’t I would not Mar that down or n put over under for him you’ll revisit this eight no just put eight or n all right moving on watti wats Christian Watson Christian Watson five and a half five and a half Chris Watson can he stay healthy Boer tell me uh so last year he had five in nine games and the year before he had seven and 14 what was the line five and a half five and a half Christian I’ll take I I’ll take the over he played in 10 games last year um I’m I’m going to take the over on that I I do think he is one of those guys that in the Red Zone unlike Kyle pittz he will make plays in The Red Zone he’ll go up and get you a touchdown there he had what Jeff G CRA he had seven and yeah he had seven and 14 games his rookie year so I’m gonna go I’m gonna go over I think he gets it if he stays healthy he easily gets over five and half so I’m goingon to go over that’s a good to be a good football team too shout out Jord left uh I’m going to go over but man they got a lot of weapons there I I’ll go over for TDS for him he’s going to be a good Red Zone threat so I’ll go I’ll go over on that one slightly though not confident but I’ll go over yeah I’m I’m nervous because I think Jaden Reed’s going to be a huge threat for them in the Red Zone but I think five if he plays more than 12 games he’ll get that just because he does have a lot of opportunities as well as with on the ground so I think he gets five maybe six but I think he gets yeah I’ll give him six all right I I think he gets six too but that’s it he’s barely getting over so I’m kind of think of picking the under on that one but last give me the under give me the under I want the under on that lot of miles to feet in that offense not high on him Patrick Mahomes new weapon not Hollywood brown but Xavier worthy four and a half for the Speedster xav you’re worthy Bo I’ll take I’ll take the over I I do think like his speed and I think he’s going to be a lot better than people think like when you go into an offense like that we’ve seen multiple players go there and and become and be very successful like Juju Smith he he not I would say revitalized his career but you know he was a piece on that offense and like last year Rashid W rice had seven Jerick McKinnon had four receiving Justin Watson three four and a half for a guy like Xavier I think that’s an easy over honestly I think he’s going to a big piece like they have that offense just got very very scary very scary Rashid rice Xavier worthy Hollywood Brown Travis Kelce that’s an that’s a very scary offense so I’m gonna go on over I’m gonna go under I’m gonna go under for Xavier worthy uh I think you know Hollywood Brown is definitely going to show out rasid rice will uh Travis Kelsey I can see him bouncing back having uh close to I mean he I wouldn’t be surprised he’s going to be the Red Zone threat but I think Xavier Worthy is kind of have a wild card I it could go either way obviously most of these can but for him specifically it’s hard but I’m going to go under I think he gets He he’ll make some plays but I think he’s a guy that year two year three you’ll really see Xavier worthy I don’t know about year one you know he’ll have that many yeah I’m aligning with Jeff on this one I think when you look at the receiver that he is he can probably get implemented in the Run game but he’s going to be the third maybe even fourth option I can’t remember it was mle or mvs I always mix the two up but they just resigned another one of those guys too so they’re going to be a lot similar in what they’re being asked to do so I think again to just point he’ll be making plays but I don’t think he’ll be in the touchdown column yeah I think he’ll probably have a few touchdowns like maybe three but I don’t think he gets over four and a half they have a lot of weapons you know they got Rashid rice they have Hollywood Brown and you still have Travis so they got to move the ball around a lot Mahomes is obviously going to throw for a lot of TDS but I still think he goes under all right we are moving on to the running backs and I have a few in here uh especially for Lucas but I’m going to start with Austin Eckler six and a half and touchdowns for Austin Eckler obviously playing with the Redskins now they got Brian Robins oh Gentry whoa commanders check yourself sorry cancel Brian Robinson you got Jaden Daniels six and a half easy over easy that I don’t know why it’s so low he he’s a touchdown Merchant too like outside of last year I think the years before that he had like almost 20 each year or something he he he finds a way to get in the end zone out of the back field or we’re catching the ball is this combined yeah it’s just touchdowns in general oh then yeah easy over I’m gonna go over I think right is it rushing or is it combined yeah it’s just rushing touchdowns oh no it’s a little different I’m going under I’m going over he had five last year 13 the year before and 12 the year before I’m going over still I think you’re going to see J uh Jay and Daniel uh score some of those TDS too he’ll have some and Brian me give me the under I think when they get in the Red Zone it’s going to be Brian Robinson and then the tier Point Jeff Jaden Daniels and I don’t even think Austin e is going to be implemented much outside of the red zone so it’s going to be through the air I think he probably has like three or four touchdowns on the ground yeah I’m going under to I hate Austin e he screwed my fantasy team so I’m holding a personal vetta against him I’m going under all right we’re moving on Nick chub over eight and a half and we all Nick chub is a fantastic running back but he’s ended four times in his career with eight rushing touchdowns yeah the line set at eight and a half but’s good stat there Gentry good find on you guys stat head yeah oh we’re starting with me all right [ __ ] it um was stansky great player but he’s in the hands of stefansky what do I what do I want to do here what do I want to do here I love Nick chub I really do he’s one of the only lone Browns players that I like so I’m going to give him the under I think he gets eight think he gets eight uh I’m I’m gonna go over I’m gonna go over I I think you know what glaz Desa Watson he has not been Deshawn Watson of the past and I think they’re going to have to get back to running the football and especially in the red zone I’m going to go I’m going to go over I’m going to go over better watch out for that boy your on for Jeffrey I’m going under I think he goes under he he coming off the injury I’m I’m not questionable on him but I think there’s going to be a little bit less of a load so I’m I’m going to go under I’m going under two I think he he just can’t stay healthy I think he’ll probably be around that number eight but I’m still going under all right the next one Derk Henry 10 and a half 10 and a and Baltimore you need 11 need 11 TDS yeah give I I I’ll take that he’ll probably have 10 TDS by week nine they’re just nine and a half 10 and a he’s going to lead he’s going to lead the league in rushing touchdown this year I think he’s going to have one last who ra I think the wheels have fallen off of him compared to being King Henry when you’re in Baltimore man if he just stays healthy I mean how many touchdown did Gus Edwards have last year if somebody can look I it probably wasn’t that as much as that line but he still got in the Red Zone I Derrik Henry he’s gonna have a monster here he, 1400 yards and 1400 yards and what did he have how many touchdowns and 12 touchdowns as the wheels falling off I’ll take that all day going over he’s had was running for 2K yards damn near yeah he did it once but um he had he had over 10 touchdowns in five of the last six seasons so I’m going over on this I think he easily gets it I don’t that’s that’s uh I might actually bet that myself Jeffrey I’m gonna go I’m gonna go under I think he ends with 10 he ends with 10 I I think a mix between there’s a couple things by the way the the prime of Derrick Henry’s career was had okay all right people I don’t know whyer finger I only hit it once the prime of his career 16 TD 17 TDS the last couple of years he’s been just slightly over I I get your your guys’ points I I think he gets 10 TDS I’m gonna go under I think he gets slightly under that he gets less touchdowns than pits compared to Jeff Kyle Pitts more touchdowns than Derrick Henry book it Jeff no I said 10 I have more TDs I’m going over all right these last two are made especially for Lucas we going to start off here kairn Williams 11 and a half oh look at that Kon Williams 11 and a half TDS and these are rushing TDS he can catch the ball too but these are not included Kai Kyon ain’t scaring anybody through the air he’s a very good running back I I mean he played in 12 games last year he went over that I think he’s still going to deal with injuries a little bit but I think I think he’ll play in more than 12 games he’ll get over he’ll get over etn we can break bread on that one buddy easy over I’m going under I’m going under there’s a new touchdown Merchant in town you guys remember the biggest touchdown Merchant in college football last year shout out go Blue Blake corm baby Blake corm is a touchdown machine they’re going to get in the Red Zone KY Williams all the way down the field at the two yard line handoff Blake corm touchdown every single so I think he’s gonna go under his head off he’s still gonna have the same yards he’s still gonna have a lot of touchdowns but I’m going Blake km is gonna get a lot of touchdowns um from him he’s gonna he’s gonna take some all right might take that man he had 12 Boer he had 12 TDS in 12 games 11 G he didn’t have another running back in the the the Back Field with okay knock a couple it’s not taking anything away from it’s not not taking anything away from K Williams he’s still going to have a great season just like he did last year I just think some of those touchdowns are some of those touchdowns will be removed and they’ll be okay remov he’ll have simar huh well he had 12 and 12 so you’re saying well he’s not going to have as many okay knock a couple that’s like he would had like 17 so he’ll have you know what I mean like it I think you’re thinking too much of the knock I do think Blake’s gonna get more than you think okay there’s a point with K Williams at the end of the day K Williams gets hurt he’s already hurt yeah but I think K Williams his play like you get Kiren Williams in the Red Zone that’s where he’s really good at because he has low leverage and he’s a really good running back at just finishing through runs but he doesn’t have it in the receiving game like I wouldn’t be surprised if Blake’s more of a receiving threat than kir to be honest like I really wouldn’t because they’re very similar in how they Blake will have a couple TDS I’m not saying he won’t like do anything I think he will but like okay 12 and 12 he’s on Pace for like close to 20 okay knock a couple he’s still over he’s hitting that over all right like to your point Bo if he doesn’t stay healthy yeah everything’s off the table I guess he hasn’t stayed healthy in two years so all right moving on we got like five QBs to get through after this so we’re going fast all right last running back though jir Gibbs 11 and a half over over over don’t even need the line over this is all rushing Jeff it ain’t changed ain’t [ __ ] I’m feeding I’m feeding families give me the over feeding families give me the over under over we’re doing like a speed would take no I I just think David David’s gonna have you know 10 to 12 and then you throw in jir he’ll have probably he could have 10 you know what was it 11 and a half yep yeah I think he gets like 10 or 11 I don’t think that 12 is 13 I mean now we’re talking that’s yeah I think he goes under two for rushing I think he’ll catch the ball and have obviously more than uh 11 and a half total touchdowns on the year but I think rushing he gets like 10 yeah I can see that you realize this man had the most Breakaway runs in the NFL last year right we do realize this NFL is not always had one game one game where he didn’t have to share backfield against the Raiders and he had three tutes child please child please is what I have to say to that I think two Tes my bad but he’s going over all right Boer what about you over all right good man moving on to quarterbacks the first one we have is Anthony Richardson 3200 thanks Jee passing yards whatever Ed Bon up good all no bo let me hang it all right I can’t see the screen right now I’m on a different screen boys you guys are trying to do something first 3200 Anthony Richardson over my Colt quarterback is going over give me 3,300 he’s not gonna have a big year to there air though 35 he says that UND bro all right Jeff what say you what was the 3,200 Anthony Richardson I I’ll give him 3,200 and one I’ll go over I’ll go over I’m gonna go I’m gonna go under I’m I’m a fan of the Colts but I think there’s going to be games where he ends up being injured and and he’s not going to play all 177 games he’s going to be out a couple Matt Ryan will’ll get a couple snaps so I I think I’m gonna say under you say Matt Ry yeah I’m pretty sure he’s our backup no Joe Flaco oh Joe Flaco I apologize yeah well same they’re both old I mean yeah they’re both old as [ __ ] it don’t really matter I guess godamn yeah I’m gonna go I’m gonna go over but I’m not he’s got to stay healthy i’ only have the only season I have he missed all of most of it so yeah if I’m not confident I’m always going to go under like that so yeah yeah I’ll go I’ll go over slightly all right next one Aaron Rodgers 3600 flat uh over over yeah I like the over too I think he does have some some weapons obviously with G Wilson I think he’s gonna have a good year and and now him coming off that injury I I don’t really think that’s gonna affect him at all um but I think he goes over I think it’s like a 4,000 yard season for Aaron Rogers he’s one of the best to ever do it has it what was it the that what was 3600 3 dude has he ever even came close to that number in his career Aaron Rogers wait what what are you serious no I’m talk well I’m saying like on the higher end I’m saying like I feel like he’s over always over 4,000 like that seems so low I’m not saying like under you guys see what I’m saying like one two three four five six seven eight nine well it’s missing games they’re factoring in 12 12 Seasons he’s essentially had 3900 or more so like that seems very low they’re they’re factoring in that injury he has you know that’s that’s an easy over to me he stays healthy that he has Mike Williams too well that’s the thing you think would think you have confidence he’ll stay healthy that’s the that’s what that’s really what it comes down to that’s all it is I it’s the health I’m gonna say yes if he’s healthy he’s getting it it’s really do you believe he’ll be healthy enough to get it I would say yes because I have them winning the division so he got to be healthy since he’s taken over as a starter he only hasn’t hit it twice and it’s just literally become Earth three times if you count last year but it’s just literally been because of injuries yeah all right next one Trevor Lawrence 3775 yards I’m gonna go over got paid I think this year he’s he’s gonna be he’s got gonna be locked in it’s goingon to be first year first year of proven why he’s a he’s a franchise quarterback I think he bounces back so I’m gonna go over uh this isn’t TD interceptions we’re talking yards I’ll go over I think he throws for 4,000 yeah I think last year it felt like he had a bad season like everyone was going at him and on his case and he still had 4,000 yards I believe last season so I’m going to go over as well I think that’s an easy one I think he easily hits 4,000 again this year I don’t know I think I’m gonna go under here I don’t think it’s gonna be by very much but I’m not very confident in in the receiving core I think Brian Thomas is G I’m he’s gonna be a fine wide receiver I think Christian Kirk is a fine wide receiver but I’m still not all that confident in the offense obviously EV Ingram’s good too but I’m going to go slightly under um this is going to be something I’m not going to let you live down for a little bit if this wide receiver rooms end up ends up being good that’s especially Gabe Davis you guys keep going at me for Gabe Gabe go out be be good put up his he’ll put up his like seven 800 yards that’s that’s good no that’s what he does he’s just like is that not good do you think that’s bad is that bad no justes four games at a time my opinion Jam over you’re you’re comparing app J Mo J Mo we’re expecting him to get can’t just read stats uh ladies and gentlemen we have to look at things I’m just asking if if J Mo was going a 100 yards the next game 10 yards next game 80 yards next game five yards play what the hell are we doing you know what I mean it’s just whatever continue you’re high on Gabe Davis I understand I’m not like I don’t think he’s the best saying Su sliced bread but he’s great like he’s a good receiver I think not great not great not great he’s good I like I I respect him he’s your Kyle Pitts who is it who we talk about here no let me hey hey Shut up let me to Boer or to Lucas Lucas Trevor Lawrence 3775 yards over all right and then the next one was Aaron Rodgers 3600 hopefully he doesn’t snap his ACL or was it killes yeah I’ll go over on that too [ __ ] all right all right now we’re back in business all right last two he’s out again Caleb Williams 3450 under God look at the Bas bomb actually no I’m gonna go over I think I think the the weapons he has I’m going over yeah I’m gonna go over I’m going to go over I think I don’t know 4,000 maybe not but damn he he can get close to that 3,400 he’ll get yeah I don’t think they’ve ever had a 4,000 yard passer to be honest no I think 36 area who’s the last all right last one Kirk Cousins 390050 over over he’s gonna throw for a ton of yards man I’m telling you that’s what Kirk does I mean it’s just dude throws for a ton of yards ton of TDS and does absolutely nothing with it just so I’m gonna go over and don’t you dare say over I’m gonna say over as well oh of course you are I said Kyle Pitts wouldn’t be shocked if he had 8008 nine00 yards it’s just the touchdowns we’re talking about eight or nine touchdowns is ridiculous my point was he’s going we don’t need to get into this again I think I think Kirk goes over he he Kirk Kirk goes over when he’s been healthy he’s had over 4,200 yards like every year yeah he’s gon dude yeah he’s gonna ball out for sure I won’t deny that all right yes I was waiting to see if lcas was tapping in for one last one but we’ll leave those blank we’ll get those answers I want to give a shout out to Lions Kool-Aid became a crunch member earlier we didn’t end up get to them uh and also Honolulu BS asked a question earlier question pick four Lions you would like to have a beer and a bonfire with I want Dan Campbell Lis Chris Spielman and Barry that’s pretty good forward right there it is four lions H I’m gonna go Dan Campbell of course I think we all agree you gotta have a beer with Dan yeah can we do Executives too yeah because I have an executive on mine I might go Brad I might go Dan and Brad to be honest damn and then alond raw Sam leor wow I’m going to go I’m gonna go Dan Brad Hutch and Jared G oh wait historically can we add those in yeah I guess you can but I’m just going now I’m I’m gonna do now okay because I I want kelvin’s my favorite player I gotta have Kelvin on there it’s not not that big of a deal I’m gonna go Megatron’s in there add him in there can’t tell Lucas is in here oh man all right I’m gonna do Dan Sam p J Mo and Kirby that’s a good okay Jeff wison mailbag who has more yards TDS Kyle Pitts or Jameson Williams a good one give me J J give me J come on Jeff answer the question brother um more yards and TDS ah I’m gonna go Kyle pittz i’mna go KY pittz because he’s the second op option in the passing game J would be the third jir and so I would go he’s going to get more targets he’s gonna get fed more Jam’s a higher passing option than Cho did Sam lorta die oh I forgot lorta you said or I thought you been Jamir so you said third okay yeah okay that makes sense you had why did you say Jamir then that was confusing I said Jamir Al he’s he’s he’s going to be up there he’s going to get checkdowns he’s going to get fed so will Bean this is an elite true I think yards won’t be that far off to be honest I don’t it’s we both said 800 900 it’s going to be about the same for sure if one hits a thousand I ky pits will have the Targets in my opinion that’s just my opinion all right we’ll uh we got two minutes left we we can get one more question I don’t know if anyone asked anything before we get out of here uh Ed O’Neal milag are the Lions better equipped to face the Bears defense this year why or why not uh yeah I mean they’re top five offense they should be equipped to face the Bears another year of experience with these guys J Jared Goa Sam leapor another year with Aman ra another year with J Mo and then you got Deon and jir Gibbs the dynamic duo getting another year under them so and Ben Johnson’s back for for another year line is still intact if not better I think a lot of people like you think about like potentially losing Josh Reynolds but I just think like this offense is so consistent being able to find points and getting up the field to where it gets overlooked a couple times because because there’s not as big of like you see you see like teams around the NFL that have two three like you look at the 49ers we like oh they have uh Brandon auk Debo George KD CMC and like you see like big names but the Lions just because they don’t have as big of names as some other teams they still are just so like consistent and and then they’re so efficient so I I’m always going to take the Lions offense over any defense to be honest yeah I mean to Ed’s point he says then why do the lions look so bad I mean yeah they made him look but again they’re equipped it they have enough it’s it’s really about AES it’s the turning the ball over you know it’s that was essentially it during that stretch that stretch was when Jared G struggled a little bit so don’t turn the ball it’s really it’s not stuff like that like are they better equipped I think they’re equally equipped it’s about can they execute better that’s probably going to matter more especially in Chicago cold weather think about too as well yeah that that’s a factor but also think about the Jared situ like when they came back and won in Fort field I believe it was in Fort field when they came back and won that like the offense went marched down the field and got that win as well so like they did show they could they could move the ball on that team and like the year before as well that offense did the same thing so I do think there is like a they can do it it’s just like take care of the ball if if you take care of the ball in those games you win and I know that’s like a simp easy thing but it’s not that the offense just sat there and struggled the whole time it’s just D you have to take care of the ball yeah take care of the ball Jarry go went through a tough stretch uh appreciate all of you hey the Mavericks are smacking the Celtics of course they are 6135 we go what what does uh Luca have at half 25 of course he’s about to have 50 uh appreciate all you guys tuning in etn says great great week boys uh and and the people all CH yeah I I see him showing love holas great show we appreciate you guys man you make this fun even during the slow times we’re just trying to inch closer to the season so get your merch officialsports.com get your merch get your merch by the way by the way people oh yeah get the merch one more time 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Bring in Breland Speaks after you cut badgley
Division titles shouldn't hung after a year. But the Lions won 2 playoff games so they celebrate something until they reach the next level.
Small nitpick fellas that drives me crazy…
"Intangibles" are NON-PHYSICAL traits. I believe I've heard all of you refer to intangible traits as physical traits in numerous vids.
Please stop this, LoL
Badgley is 37/48 on 40-49 yarders. 5/13 on 50+ yarders for his career, 0 60 yarders attempted. Badgley is really good on short kicks, but anything 40+ yards it's not good and gets worse the longer you go. Bates has a really good chance to win this spot. 77% on 40-49 ain't great. A guy capable of 50-64 yarders with solid accuracy is an X factor.
I see Sewell
Sewell is still the best player on the lions team!!!
Boners strange!! always trying to argue with someone is annoying asf ….he's not the brightest bulb
BIG LO IS A GREAT LAST NAME JEFF TAKE IT FROM A BLACK MAN IT FITS 😂
Badgley did not miss a FG last year and won us a playoff game come on stop looking at his past. Didn't Riley was literally 15-17 so last year we missed 2 fgs we don't use our guys like we should. You say consistency and we missed 2 fgs and not trusting Badgley but you trust him to kick a 54 yarder come on guys