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good morning chatty house what up gang the belt who did get the belt I’m guessing we I usually check that first thing but it didn’t oh Katrina Katrina gets the belt very nice oh yeah nice Katrina that’s right hope everybody had a good weekend have a functioning backyard now so far didn’t get to use at all no that’s too bad yeah busy weekend had a busy weekend too it looked like it that was the end of my day no but honestly like on a weekend being out and about like I golfed yesterday and out at uh yoa de yoa de yok de what whatever it is out at Cash Creek y is how I’m saying it and uh like no it’s a busy day so like I’m out there for a few hours and gotta eat with the homies after and then gotta get back to Sacramento then gotta get my car then go back home it’s a long day it doesn’t sound like a long day being busy doesn’t have to suck what’s up Russell what up Stephen Mrs Matt good morning Katrina good morning Spencer appreciate y’all what up Warren I like it bad boys have ESPN I don’t know what that even means but I’m Mike Lowry in this situation I think I’m Mike Lowry actually I would definitely I’d definitely be more I be Marcus I think I’m more The Martin Lawrence actually now that that’s my oh no yeah now that I’m thinking about it plaid boys that’s funny what up bro morning Drew hello har hello Dr David here we go oh good morning good morning and a happy Monday to you listening on the radio listening on the free Odyssey app shout out to everybody hanging out with us in the chatty house as well at twitch.tv ESPN 1320 and ESPN uh youtube.com ESPN 1320 that guy right there that’s James ham I’m Kyle Madson and we’re hanging out with you until noon then we’ll hand it off to DLo and KC uh James I hope you had a good weekend I hope it was was not too eventful we were just talking about like being busy on a weekend is weird because you can be busy but still like enjoying your weekend it can still be a fun weekend I try to have as few like commit as possible like on the weekends like in general like we try to not have like 8 million things going on yeah yeah right sometimes we go like away for a weekend and you have some things planned but like for the most part I like to sleep in on the weekends which doesn’t happen anymore I can’t sleep in for some reason and then I like to just chill and go for a walk or two get out on the boat Splash around in the water sure I had a few too many things to do this weekend but it all worked out that’s good yeah yeah no being busy being busy on a weekend doesn’t necessarily have to be a bad thing got stuff going on I golfed yesterday that’s nice I stayed with some friends up in Sacramento on Saturday night because we had to leave for golf early on Sunday morning yep so it’s it had a lot going on but know it was a good weekend hope everybody else out there had a good weekend our guy Bryce has had a great weekend he is listening to the show live in Disneyland oh again yeah no he’s still there wow yeah he hanging out he he must think that the happiest place on Earth yeah as he should yeah I think that’s I think that’s great uh good for him I don’t have my buttons on yet but good for good for Bryce um Sasha bankov we had some strange Kings news from over the weekend so the the moral of the story The the punchline here is that Sasha venkov time with the Kings appears to be over now there were conflicting reports over the weekend the first one said that venkov was told by the kings that he’s not going to be part of the team anymore yes but then the second report said venkov told the kings that he’s not going to be part of the team anymore yeah kind kind of an odd ju deposition of things because those two things are very very different no they are very very different so again we have Mato andani um you know like I I do my best to to vet these guys uh they’re reporters in Europe um and and he says hey he’s been informed by the kings that he’s not part of the plans next season his priority is to stay in the NBA Kings will try to trade him sure uh and that came in at like 4:03 in the morning right and then at 5:18 we get sort of a rebuttal from mahalis Stefano uh which from like some people on Twitter have told me that he’s closer to Sasha anyway he’s informed Sacramento Kings that he doesn’t intend to return for a second year of his contract and that’s open whether he’ll continue his career or he’ll decide to return to Europe like both of these are slightly weird because you can’t just say hey I’m not returning and you know in European basketball maybe they have this ability where you can just go somewhere else I I certainly know in soccer you can’t inform your club that you don’t want to be there anymore and they can try to find someone who takes on your salary and then work out some sort of transfer fee but in the NBA it’s it’s a lot different um you know he has one year guaranteed uh this coming season at like 6.6 million and then the next year is a team option at 7 million he could walk away from that contract and just say hey just I if you don’t mind I’d like you to void that contract and the Kings could go okay we’ll void your contract but you know with a a clause saying that you can’t you know go to some other team in the NBA um but that would mean he’d walk away from 6.6 million and you know back in Europe he was making like two million bucks a year and that was after like multiple multiple raises and that was to keep him in from going to the NBA right so that’s a lot of money to walk away from but hey maybe that’s what the plan is so I don’t know it’s conflicting and it’s confusing and I would just say look he didn’t have a great rookie season and I don’t know how he fits going forward um but I for me I’ll keep saying this as much as people might want to blame Sasha I kind of blame the roster as well and just like the right players weren’t in place to support him in the correct way and I thought when he was on the court he is better defensively than I thought he he was going to be I thought the shooting was as advertised he just didn’t get enough reps to actually get in a rhythm and sort of find himself but overall I I thought you know there was clear room for improvement in year two and I was looking forward to seeing him after working with the NBA training staff for an entire offseason what he looked like and I think that they could have cleaned up some of like his his uh his sort of limitations issue um if he was here in Sacramento working so we’ll have to wait and see but I think it’s very rare for a team to actually tell somebody like hey like we’re we’re going to trade you this summer because that’s the only time you do that is when you have a deal already worked out sure so and that’s possible it is it’s possible that the Kings have already worked out a trade and they’re just not going to announce it until the night of the draft we talk about like negotiating you can’t negotiate with free agents your own free agents until the day after the finals teams can be talking to each other right right now all they want about like specific trades that that could go down or you know some things that they’ve been working on so we don’t really know what’s happening yeah I don’t I I I guess it it would make sense though if Sasha’s like yeah hey I’m not really sure what I’m doing here and he talked to the Kings and said hey what’s my role going forward and the Kings said nah like nothing right now you don’t really have one and I I think if you’re Sasha and you don’t even have to ask you can read the tea leaves yeah and you can go hey if this team is going to get significantly better in their rotation and they’re going to add let’s say the Kings check all the boxes that that we we want to see them check this offseason and let’s say they add Brandon Ingram and then let’s say they add a rotation player a top eight rotation player we’re Sasha’s not moving up no in the rotation probably it like it’s a really really Steep Hill to climb and so he probably has another season where he’s playing what do he play 42 games 12 minutes a night he’s going to get a couple of shots he’s probably mostly going to be a white flag uh here game’s over you go out there and and mess around for a little bit um I think that was kind of his ceiling and this is not a 20-year old dude he’s 28 almost 29 yeah I I don’t I don’t think there was some there’s some version of Sasha venkov where he’s in the king’s rotation and playing big time minutes next year and like you said after that his contract’s not guaranteed and the Kings have a window here that they’re that they’re trying to maximize and I don’t I don’t I don’t know if if you’re a big believer in Sasha I would I would want to know how like he’s just not he’s just not the right combination of things to to be effective for the Kings yeah I mean I think that that’s the problem that you have is it there is a world in which he could actually work in Sacramento I totally think that there there is a a way in which that could happen how how I I think you would you would have to have a super long and super athletic like three and five to go with him like Off the Bench so so like look if the Kings well I okay I guess like if you were to go out and sign Jonas Valen chunis and have sort of a tough guy back there m that’s fine but like you need a Derrick Jones Jr or you need you need a long super athletic dude to play with him a guy who can block shots I just think for some of the players on this team it was almost unfair like the way the roster was built was not conducive to their play style or I think a better way to put it is the this this the types of players they have don’t complement each other correctly and so it’s really hard to blame a guy who you know is again slow-footed doesn’t have great lateral quickness but is a great shooter and a an incredible off-the-ball mover like he he’s open all the time yeah super high IQ but you have to pair that with players that can can defend for him they can they can help take away some of the pressure off of him and the Kings don’t have that style of Team where he could he could fill in and you know even if they would have played him with a guy like Keegan Murray more that might have helped but like we’re sitting here like trying to scrape together minutes with like weird combinations of players like that’s not going to work and like he he to me he’s too similar to what Trey lles brings to the table but I just think Trey LS is a better all-around player I agree and that that’s kind of it like you have sort of redundancy there and if you would have put Trey at the backup five for a bunch of minutes that’s one thing but they didn’t do that and so it’s tough because I don’t think you can I don’t think you can stop anybody if you have Trey lyes and Sasha venkov playing side by side yeah it can’t be your front Court no it can’t be your your second your back court off the your front Court Off the Bench and he just doesn’t he just doesn’t do do enough he’s not shooting on the move a lot he’s pretty much like spot up shooter only at least that’s the way the Kings used him he’s not like putting the ball on the deck and playmaking he’s just yeah he’s going to cut back door and he’s going to shoot it when he gets the ball in his hands in the corner or above the break or wherever and it’s not like he set the Nets on fire it’s not like he’s shooting 47% from three he 37 and a half percent yeah he’s a good shooter he he’s not like that’s not to say there’s not a role for him somewhere in the NBA but I think his role is yeah hey we need a little bit of shooting tonight let’s get Sasha out there um I don’t know that there’s going to be much for him beyond that especially because like you said he turns 29 in August yeah he’s gonna be 29 for all of next season in his second year in the NBA like he just it’s just kind of is it is what he is yeah well and I think unfortunately for him too the two injuries they they didn’t just set him back like when you’re injured in the NBA it can be a really really lonely world oh brutal and and when you’re not from here and you’re already lonely and then you have that become an issue where you’re not on the on the court with the fellas yeah hanging out and doing you know have him practice and shoot around and all that stuff you’re not able to do it it it can be a dark place so I thought at the end of the season um he said he didn’t make a mistake coming over he doesn’t have any regrets coming over to the NBA um you know that he’s he was excited to see where this went um but you know like I don’t know that the kings are the the perfect spot for him yeah and whether that the Kings can find him a new home or um or if he just goes back to Europe I mean it it would be complicated but not impossible for him to go back to Europe and it’s possible that he would reduce his salary really low to get a to buy out and go back to Europe that’s possible um I just think it would take some negotiations we’ll have to see how it works out yeah for sure definitely hope he catches on somewhere and you know maybe he talked to the Kings and realized that he wasn’t going to have a and thinks he could or maybe it’s just what you said like last year was just kind of a bummer and he’s like I just want I don’t want to do this anymore yeah that would that would make sense too we’ll talk about what this means for the Kings uh with with Sasha venkov what it means financially what it means for their rotation what it means for their roster and we’ll have some NBA finals coming up as well after the Celtics took a two nothing lead over the Mavs and Shaquille O’Neal set a really really interesting thing over the weekend that I want to get to as well also starting tonight at 6m we’re going to be carrying bet MGM tonight that is the ho that host that uh that is the show that Trista Crick is a host on with Ryan Horvat and Nick Ashu they do a really really great job on bmgm tonight Ryan Horvat is going to join us at 11:30 uh to talk about the finals he’s a Wisconsin guy maybe we’ll talk some NFL with him I don’t know we’ll get into a bunch of stuff with Ryan that’s coming up at 11:30 he’s uh he’s really really fun so looking forward to that that’s James ham I’m Kyle mads and we’re the Insiders sponsored by Jiffy Lube here on ESPN 1320 sac Sports what’s going on everybody just so you guys know I did check him with the Kings and got I got nothing um on the Sasha side but I definitely like the injuries were like he had a Grade Three ankle sprain and it cost him a bunch of time so I don’t I don’t think like there’s no slander about Sasha V I I talk to Sasha all the time I thought he’s a good dude and again I think that there’s a possibility that he does end up on a a different roster yeah Emmy I agree with this that no reporters from us media is confirm this um but first of all the NBA finals are happening uh secondly there seems to be a highlevel boxing match between the two biggest reporters in the league who uh are fighting over who’s going to be the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers for some reason so anyway good morning Jay I don’t know what to believe about the rumors either I just think they’re really weird very odd yep oh Ley I don’t think you can call it a parlay on prize picks no it’s an entry an entry [Laughter] lineup I got a I had two for four last night um I had Kik hernandz less than half a total base and he looked terrible at the plate until he came up in the ninth inning and smack the two strike [Laughter] single and then uh Luis Gill the starter for the yanes I thought he was gonna be a lot better than he was he wasn’t bad um but I had more than 34 and a half on his pitcher fantasy score but hey you’ll never guess what happened Asia Wilson went more on her points rebounds assists oh a stunner like every day I put her in six entries picked more on six entries for her and she’s gone more on five of them oh yeah so almost like they kick Murray dunk dude it is Asia Wilson is yeah she’s tearing it up she even got hurt for a second last night but I was really worried that she wasn’t going to come through then she did yeah we’ll we’ll talk about yeah this is this is this is it like you said with everything else going on this isn’t dearon Fox asking out no I got like 30 seconds yesterday might have been the last time I go for a while yeah was that bad my hip is really messed up oh that’s not good no that’s non-winning behavior in our building now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 that’s James ham I’m Kyle Madson we’ll have some NBA final stuff coming up for you in a bit we’ve also got Ryan hor out of bmgm tonight coming up at 11:30 we’ll talk we’ll talk a little bit of everything with Ryan he has a ton of fun bmgm tonight GNA start on ESPN 1320 tonight at six o’clock so after run it back so it’ll be DLo and Casey then we’ll have run it back and then we’ll have bmgm tonight for you and then Shaquille O’Neal said a really interesting thing over the weekend that we’ll talk about as well but I want to continue this Sasha asenov discussion here for a bit so whether he asked out or the Kings told him that he’s going to be out I don’t I I don’t I think we’ll get there eventually like at some point maybe after the finals maybe after the draft we’ll get a clear picture of what’s going on with Sasha um he might get traded like we said during the draft but the full story is not done there yet um what what is what does this mean for for Sacramento financially if he says Hey NBA is not my bag I’m just going to go back to Europe and be an MVP candidate over there and that’s what I’m going to do what does that mean for the Kings um well first of all he’s gonna have to negotiate with the Kings uh like to get out of his contract here okay right so and that’s not I mean there’s usually some give and take there like if the Kings just flat out waved him tomorrow they could stretch provision him um which it’s basically it’s twice a Year’s your salary plus one more year so they can break his $6.6 million up into two 2.2 million over the next three years got it right so that like if you wave a player that’s what you would do I don’t think the kings are going to do that because number one he he is a trade chip uh or at least a an expiring contract that they could trade between now and you know whenever right because his his final year contract is not guaranteed and a team would take on a $6.6 million contract with no problem even if they weren’t going to have the player as long as it’s part of a much larger package right especially an expiring contract so um there are ways that you could get around that right um but like even it like worst case scen let’s just say he says I don’t want anything I’m just going to leave and the Kings work out a deal where they literally just void the final year of his contract and then the the option year isn’t picked up and he just goes away it doesn’t help the Kings the kings are already at without anything done right now at all they’re at 152 million dedicated salary which is $ 11 million over the cap man so that doesn’t help them at all in especially if we’re talking about going out and signing Malik monk Malik monk again we’ve talked about this before the only way for the Kings to offer Malik monk more than 17.4 or 17.5 million is they have to not only get below the salary cap so they have to shave1 million off just to get to the salary cap but then on top of that let’s say they want to offer them 25 million they’ve got to get at least 25 million under the cap after dropping the first 11 million so now we’re up to 36 but then you have minimum roster holds so you got to make sure you have enough roster spots you have to have a minimum and if not there’s 1.1 million for everyone so if you have to trade away five players uh and for nothing now you’re gonna have to have these roster spots so in order for them to to give monk more than the seven let’s say to give them $25 million a year they would have to like clear out so much cap space it’d be the 11 plus probably another 30 so how can you get rid of 41 million bucks Sasha ven’s salary in that you know it’s not even a drop in the bucket when it comes to that so there’s no way for them to do to give them to give him more than the 17.4 million unless they clear true cap space okay and this just opens a roster spot then it does it opens a roster spot well I mean we’d have to see like how they deal with this like if he’s thrown in on a trade okay like like maybe maybe you do a two for one a three for one whatever sure so again if you’re trying to get up to like uh a trade to to get um Kyle kusma right we talked about this the 200% rule so a guy like Sasha because he makes less than a certain dollar amount you can trade a salary for basically twice as much so his 6.5 becomes 13 million Chris dwares goes from 6 million to 12 million that’s 25 million bucks that you can trade and that would that you can acquire back so yeah so that would actually equal you could fit a guy like Kyle kusma into that trade and that’s without messing with any of the other players on your roster but you would be taking on a whole bunch of more n10 million in salary so that’s going to bump up your dollar amount that would push the Kings more and more towards the luxury tax I think it’s more likely you would see something like a three for one um in a deal just for a player that makes 22 23 million bucks like Kyle kusma sure uh and the Kings can do that they’ve got Davon a six million they’ve got uh six and a half million for for Sasha and they’ve got six million for for dwarte so the Kings have movable pieces here um but that doesn’t mean that they are going to be able to move something or or that someone’s going to take whatever is they’re offering um but I just think it if he is in fact not part of the plan and I don’t know that that’s the case I mean the kings were so high on him when they were trying to get him to come over they were so incredibly high on him and for it to go south like this if that’s what in fact has happened um it would be a little crazy so and I’m not convinced that we’re everything we’re reading from overseas is 100% accurate I mean again we have two reports and they totally contradict each other yes so that’s the difficult thing and the one someone says sends me a tweet hey the the guy who sent the first report is not very reliable and it’s like okay but the second I don’t know like just like the other guy is way more reliable and he’s closer to Sasha so if I look at the two reports I’m looking at him like okay one of them is pretty reactionary like one of them says hey he’s been told by the Kings he’s not gonna be part of it and then the next is like he’s informed the Kings so like both of these uh like reports they’re very different and they kind of hold different value and so I don’t I don’t know what to make of it I think we’re going to have to wait and see how it all plays out a little bit further but I you know whether he’s going to be on the roster or not next season I have no idea I think there’s always a way in which he is and he if he wants to decide to continue his NBA career for right now it’s with the Sacramento Kings is under contract so there’s not so but I’m getting hung up on because really to to me whether the Kings told him he’s out or whether he wants out I I I think that’s kind of inconsequential for me okay it it’s just okay Sasha is not going to be part of this whe if it’s if it’s a him thing or a king’s thing I don’t know and I don’t I don’t really care but like so is there a way then where he’s just like you know what this isn’t for me he negotiates a deal with the Kings where he basically bounces out of his contract and heads back to Europe yep that in that instance the Kings does now have a roster spot they have a roster spot and and it reduces their salary by whatever he he drops his money by got it so again if he takes 2 million to walk away MH and you the Kings could clear $4.5 million so instead of being at at2 million they drop to 147.5 or whatever it would be yeah so there is a way for the Kings to save money on their salary which could help them because again if they want to make another move or a couple of moves that bring back a bunch of more money okay yeah you know that might work and there’s also a possibility that he could get traded to a team and then get bought out by that team in in a specific way so maybe he is a player that that you could trade and then like he’s willing to leave for less money and walks away from the NBA and so a team could trade for his money and then get a break on the backside so there’s always possibilities for like a bunch of things here but you know if he’s going to play as of right now he is a Sacramento king so I’m not prepared to say hey this whole thing is over and he’s gone okay I’m not prepared to say that I just because of two reports from overseas okay that’s fair a lot can happen between now and you know next season in my mind he’s gone my mind it’s over it’s all done um yeah we’ll uh any any update that there is on that we’ll have it for you and and we’ll talk about it then but for right now it according to two reports Sasha VZ zenov either wants out or is being kicked out something like that that’s where that we’ll hopefully get more information here in the coming weeks uh the NBA finals are going on right now and the Celtics now lead the Mavericks two games to nothing we’ll uh talk a little bit about last night’s game and whether uh there’s any reason to believe the series is going to continue beyond four or five games tough tough uh tough go so far for the Mavs and also Jason Tatum reminds me of somebody reminds me of a player and I think you’ll find the comp a little bit interesting here on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports CER I’m gonna go take a walk oh okay yeah man I just uh you all right yeah just uh ran into a wall just there oh yeah I’ll be right back yeah yeah what were you looking at that was outside uh Seth was walking down the down this way with a flashlight and the the way it was reflecting it was like oh because his he’s walking it’s like coming in and out of the picture okay and so it was just like this like St I was like the the hell’s going on oh all right I hope you’re all right I’m fine okay need what’s going on everybody h let’s [Music] see I don’t know what to make of this AIA situation like I we can keep talking about this but like we will we will see what happens with Sasha like two years ago before he came over um there were like so many reports that were hit and miss um anyway yeah there were a lot of reports that were like hey he’s coming over oh no he’s not coming over oh he’s signing here he’s not signing here it got all crazy and look this might play into his decision I’m not sure Emy um it wouldn’t Shock Me if Sasha was not a Mike Brown guy yeah or vice versa I I think uh Zach it it totally depends on what the Wizards are looking for I don’t think there’s a lot of teams out there that are going to be willing to offer up like the 13th pick cuz number one the Kings have the 13th pick but also like I don’t think that there’s a lot out there I don’t know what his his value is to other teams and it might be higher than what we think but that’s a pretty fair trade but we’ll see it depends if Washington wants a who’s going go as well one minute yeah that’s wild that’s a a wild statement e now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 the Celtics beat the Mavs again last night they lead that final series two games to nothing and man I thought game one showed us that series was over to me game two was the opportunity for Dallas to come out to for Kyrie Irving specifically to come out and be better and I I don’t I didn’t see it after game one I definitely don’t see it after game two because Luca was really good yesterday I think Luka was about as good as he can be against a defense as good as Boston’s and then the maps just don’t have it man they just don’t have enough yeah I don’t think they do I mean I I think it’s interesting because we can look at some of the players that are coming off the bench imp playing for the Celtics like again I I don’t think that Hower has been very good he had a a a little small stretch where he started hitting some shots but it feels like like Dallas has like three of those guys playing on each and every night and the fact that you know we’re we’re trying to debate who’s better between uh Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum and the other Duo is just realistically one player like like Kyrie just hasn’t been a factor and I I think he’s totally hurt that team whatever the reason so his like the Kyrie Redemption tour is kind of taking like a detour again and I think it’s really interesting to watch because this was something we talked about coming into the series they have so many good perimeter Defenders that they can limit what Dallas wants to do and I know a lot of people are like oh you know how come they’re not uh they’re not doing all these pick and rolls and they’re not doing these different sets that that were so successful in Minnesota against Minnesota and the answer is that because the Celtics have taken it away right you can’t because they’re incredible defensively yes I mean the blocks that we’re seeing in the series on both sides like some of the action has been absolutely some of the defensive plays yeah have been nuts but I just keep watching these like ridiculously silly looking leanin shots that Luca is shooting from all over the place he is like so well defended there’s nothing he can do and and he needs more help but I also think he needs to like he needs to use the players around him like he has in the previous series and I think maybe that’s part of this like when when you are put into a pressure cooker like like he’s being put into a lot of times you regress to who you are as just a as like throughout your career yeah and and that might be a little bit of what’s Happening yeah maybe uh but also I’m looking at some stats right now big numbers guy Luka so far is averaging 31 10 and a half and six with three steals a game he’s shooting 51% from the field and 38% from three he is eight of 21 from three the rest of the Mavs combined are five of 32 from three nobody’s made more than one three-pointer PJ Washington one for eight Kyrie 0 for8 Derek Jones Jr one for five Jaden Hardy one for three Josh green one for four Dante XM knocked one down as well good for him one for one so they’re not getting enough man and of all the people in this series that I thought would be a non-factor Kyrie Irving not on my list yeah we had him as probably one of the what the third or fourth best player in this series yeah yeah three three or four depending on depending on how you felt about Jaylen Brown going in yeah I I think at this point it it really does look like Luca followed by the two Celtics followed by another Celtic in probably Derek white like his impact defensively and then Drew is right there and then where’s porzingis I mean I’m not sure porzingis porzingis above Kyrie right now yeah so what we got four five Celtics five Celtics above the next best player on on the Mavs and so far in the series yeah and it’s not like Luca is doing so much that that can happen you know if luuka is averaging 45 a night you’d be like all right like yeah there’s goingon to be some players that are having some downtime yeah that’s just not the case I think well bill bich and the Patriots during their run they’re big the the big the big selling point I guess of their of their defense or what made them great was their ability to force you into things you didn’t want to do yeah they went what’s your A+ pitch okay we’re going to take that away and now what can you do playing with one hand tide behind your back and that’s what the Celtics have done to the Mavericks PJ Washington I Jason T from from uh Hoops tonight on our show brought up PJ Washington shooting above the break versus the corner Elite Corner three-point shooter terrible above the break three-point shooter Dallas Boston is just forcing him to be above the break they’re not allowing him to get down into the corner where he’s comfortable and that’s it they’re tying a hand behind the Mavs back and saying hey Derrik lley is not gonna be able to play in this series Daniel Gafford his his impact is going to be very minimal yeah Derrick Jones Jr let’s see how you do against the Michael Jordan version of yourself and Jaylen Brown um hey um who who who else am I who else am I missing here P PJ Washington like yeah no get you’re gonna Kyrie and Luka we’re just going to switch on you guys and you figure it out I I don’t I maybe there’s maybe if Chris STS porzingis is going to be out for some considerable amount of time maybe that swings the series maybe he is really the Lynch pin to all of this but I think what we’re seeing and and it doesn’t have to be that complicated the Celtics are a better team and they are so dialed in I still have my my buddy is the big Hoops fan who texted me during game one is like I’ll believe the Celtics when they’re hoisting the trophy is still like ah like I don’t know like dude this is a different Celtics team man we have breaking news oh we got breaking news from Adrian wowski Connecticut’s Dan Hurley has turned down the Los Angeles Lakers six years $70 million offer and will return to chase a third straight national title sources tell ESPN LA would have made him one of the NBA’s six highest paid coaches he turned down a six-year $70 million contract it’s a lot of money wow holy smokes wow sorry to interrupt everything but uh no that’s fine I was hoping that news would break during our show that is tremendous tremendous wow that’s interesting that news broke at 1:40 p.m. Pacific time uh eastern time yes uh I’m sorry Eastern Time yep and there was that thing today I read you from Twitter that reporter who does some work on the East Coast he works for a bunch of different Publications out there and he said yukon’s basketball practice has been moved up from noon to two or to two from noon yeah yeah like he got pushed back two hours and so that news breaks about 20 minutes before that practice is supposed to start meaning Dan Hurley was probably in a meeting with the Lakers today which is why their practice got moved yeah fascinating absolutely wild and hey if Mike Brown hadn’t signed his contract or not negot I don’t know if he signed or not if he’s not if he not negotiated to deal with the Kings do you think that this would have been a a factor Bobby Hurley getting a six-year 70 million offer Dan Hurley yeah Jes D I cannot you know what I’m just I don’t think it would have mattered Kyle I just face planted into a wall this morning and haven’t been able to get off that wall it’s fine I I don’t think it would have mattered because so many other coaches got you know like the tyo contract was just outlandish like right then yeah but T at least tyo like has a title in an NBA resume yeah no that’s true it Dan Hurley has some college basketball championships he’s a really good coach for sure yeah but first time NBA coaching job he’s going to get six and 70 that’s wild this is JJ reic wow was Shams right the whole time was Shams right the whole time the wrinkles man this is one of those ones that you’re just looking at like holy cow look at the ripple effect and this whole entire like like media blitz over this the battle behind the scenes has been absolutely wild and crazy I am glad they kind of they did this on non-final day yeah yeah like give the finals like it it’s due yeah um then again they could have JJ reck on the finals call what is it tomorrow or is it Wednesday on Wednesday and he literally could have just been named the Lakers head coach and so we that would be such a Lakers thing to do that would be such a Lakers thing to do you’d have to pull him from the broadcast right because they get to be in like production meetings and stuff oh yeah I I would think so like he’d be done on the broadcast midf finals oh my God that’d be Peak Lakers uh we have a followup uh tweet please yeah give me that after uh dogged pursuit of Hurley uh over the past weeks Lakers will regroup and resume bringing in candidates for interviews with hope of hiring a coach by draft sources say James bgo is expected to remain part of the group and Lakers could do their first formal interview with JJ Reck it’s gonna wind up being JJ reic right this might be the first time that uh that JJ reck um was mentioned by Adrien wowski I think it is yeah I definitely think that’s the case it’s wild it’s time for everybody’s favorite segment Mitch in New Jersey uh Mitch Dan Hurley staying at Yukon your thoughts hey Mitch hello yeah Dan Hurley staying at Yukon your thought oh that’s CRA How you guys doing I’m sorry trying to be Mr Green Thumb here in my yard here um well first of all Sasha doesn’t want to be here we can always find somebody else he’s just the back of it apparently he’s not he’s not taking over like LCA no doubt I will go with Anthony Melton I think eventually him and FX will make a great start in back you have Monk and Mitchell back there and too B for the lers I want to see him I’m not a connective fan but to win and to win any sports three years in row that would be amazing no doubt thanks sorry for my delay I apologize oh good buddy good luck with the gardening thanks love Mitch he’s the best I thought I thought he was doing a bit and just like birds chirping like what do you think and chirp chirp chirp I got nothing for you on nothing for you getting this DeAnthony Melton take off though wild if DeAnthony Melton signs at the Kings I’m gonna ship a DeAnthony Melton King’s Jersey to Mitch New Jersey that’s happening that’s the thing I will do for him he’s been dude he’s been on that DeAnthony Melton train for weeks now he is he is on that train for sure yeah Big Anthony mol guy wild 91699 1320 91699 1320 if you want to join the program uh is this Dawn uh this is Big E sorry biggie what’s up bro I did want to talk finals but with the Dan Hurley news going on obviously money wasn’t the issue do you think it’s because the news broke early and that turned him off or like he had like a meeting and just like he saw LeBron was like the GM and was like I don’t want to be here if the co or if a player has so much power I’m not sure honestly I want to hear what you guys think fascinating thanks biggy appreciate you um yeah I don’t I don’t think it was because the news broke early I would love to know what he’s getting paid by Yukon and if there’s some extension in the works with Yukon or some like lifetime contract type deal but I think part of it was what the plan is for the Lakers in the post LeBron era like if you’re Dan Hurley that has to play a major role right because this is you’re you’re leaving a program in Yukon mhm where you won two consecutive national titles and you’re in a spot where you can very very much go win a third in a row you can you can become a legend in the college game if you’re going to give that up for your first NBA head coaching job you want to make sure that you’re in a spot where you’re set up to like succeed long term there’s a six-year deal on the table from the Lakers right okay what what do you think that that’s two two or two or three years of LeBron yeah maybe and that’s two or three years of LeBron impacting games at what level and what is the roster going to look like after that where if you don’t bring a title in those three years are they going to punt you because they want to bring in a new coach who’s going to rebuild something I don’t blame him man I don’t blame him for looking and going I want to coach in the NBA but this is not the spot well that and Kyle that team is is still it doesn’t matter who’s coaching that team it’s probably still a 678 seed at best and that’s if you’re you’re able to keep you know bandaid those guys together and keep them on the court like I don’t know that that’s possible I like what they did last year with LeBron playing like 37 minutes a game that’s wild man it’s pretty crazy so like sure you’re the eight seed last year 47 and 35 but like just the sheer volume he uh LeBron played 35.3 minutes per game Anthony Davis 35. five Anthony daav has played 76 games I don’t know how many times in his career he’s played 76 games but I don’t think it’s a lot uh it’s zero uh it is zero it’s the the most games he’s ever played in his NBA career yep and if you think it 31 32 33 you’re gonna get that many games out of Anthony Davis I Anthony Davis is 31 bro yeah that’s that hurts that one stings that one really stins it’s tough because like I get it you’re you’re under so much scrutiny with the Lakers you don’t have free reign especially until the LeBron era is over and then what happens and you know no idea they can promise you that they’re going to go get another star and they might get another star they’re the Lakers that’s what happens but I just don’t know that I want to put my eggs in that basket and and that’s a tough one like if OKC were were to come to you and say hey look we want you to take over our program and we’re set up for the next decade you have to at least consider it even though it’s living in Oklahoma City versus LA sure like that would at least be a job where you’re like okay I see that the arc here I see where we’re going I just don’t know that like you would have to have some sort of input on on roster moves and everything else at least that’s what I would want if I was Dan Hurley that’s really difficult yeah I thought you were going to say even though it’s living in OKC instead of stores Connecticut Oh I thought that’s where you going was like H probably preferable yeah I I Connecticut it well I don’t know I spent some time in Connecticut yeah stores is not a place that I would like love to hang out all the time okay that’s all maybe if I went to school there well but maybe if you’re the basketball coach and and everywhere you went everyone just like bought your meals and which is right which is where he’s that’s how he’s set up now sure he’s making plenty of money I don’t know if it’s 11 and a half a year whatever whatever his contract with the Lakers would have come out to it’s 670 I don’t know if he’s making that much no no no he’s not but like you said he’s never gonna have to pay for a meal again he’s probably got some swe pretty sweet perks with the school he gets to have full control over the roster and the program at all times yes and he doesn’t have to deal with Rob pink he doesn’t have to deal with LeBron he doesn’t have to deal with Jeanie bus okay so this is what I heard last week I had heard that the the Lakers contract offer was uh between 10 and 11 million per season and that Yukon had moved up between eight and eight and a half million per season so yeah it’s it’s a substantial difference but he’s also negotiating right now it looks like with Yukon to to get another pay bump um and on top of that you know from wge as swept up as swept away as Hurley became by the Lakers courtship and vision for him he ultimately couldn’t walk away from a chance to make history and pursue a third straight NCAA title even before the Lakers talks Hurley had already had a Yukon offer to become one of the highest pay coaches uh NCAA coaches and those talks will continue per Source yeah the other thing with the Lakers you said they that they’d go get a star right uh let’s start in 20134 CU that a six-year stretch where the Lakers won 27 21 17 26 35 and 37 games and that 37 games was the year LeBron arrived yeah I it just well they went young yeah they they went young they had the a couple of drafts where they had super top tier pick Josh hard and yeah yeah uh well no it’s Ingram and and Lonzo and uh and and Julius Rand Julius Randle yeah jeez yeah so legitimately forgot all those guys played for the yeah they had all those pieces in place and then they they went away from it so yeah yikes man tough anyways Mike Brown got five games into the 2012 13 season and they punted yeah that’s insane I think that was like Kobe Kobe like gave the look like what are we doing here yeah yeah yeah because then it was Bernie bicker staff for five games and then Mike Danton yeah who went 40 and 32 that year and then the next year 27 and 55 and then he was out like what I I don’t know I would go to the Lakers basketball reference page if they wanted to hire me to be a head coach not me if I was a head coach of Dan Hurley’s caliber because look Dan Hurley’s gonna have every opportunity he wants in the NBA any opportunity that comes up he can put his name in the Hat and be a very serious I candidate for that job and I think you’re looking at this and going man all right so let’s see since since LeBron arrived they’ve had this is their fourth coach since 201819 like the expectation is so high and you’re just not going to get the resources you need to meet that expectation yeah and then it’s going to go down on it’s going to be on you you didn’t do a good enough job I don’t blame him six and 70 is a lot though it is I would take $70 million for six years of work well in case anybody here is listening and there’s a good chance that you’re going to get three years of work maybe four and things will go sideways and you’ll still get paid and then you got to go back to college and be at square one again yeah but square one you’re still going to get a top 10 program I’m really rooting for Dan Hurley and Yukon now okay I have very little interest in men’s basketball outside of the tournament NC college basketball yeah um but I’m rooting I I this year I will be a Yukon fan because I want to see Dan Hurley win a third okay in a row that’d be cool it’s kind of this reminds me of like the Tom ISO Pursuits right like everyone tried to get ISO to to leave and and then like every time you thought he was going to leave he didn’t yeah so there were a couple opportunities there and U like what do we have the Phoenix opportunity and then the Pistons at one point and um he decided to to stay in in the college game and you know he’ll be a legend there forever and way goes that’s just it if you’re if your aspiration when you go to coaching college is to coach in the NBA then I could see you know yep any opportunity that comes up I’m going to take it that’s this college thing was a means to an end here I go but if you just wanted to be a great college coach I don’t think that the NBA would be that enticing if you just really love yeah hey every now every year I’m going to have a different roster and I get to mold these young men into into great basketball players and great men and that’s what we’re about here at this program and D I can see where it’s appealing for sure and if you like dude Dan Hurley set for life in Yukon or at Yukon yeah yeah Bill self with his lifetime contract at Kansas Tom ISO Legend Nick Sabin at Alabama Nick Sabin tried the NFL thing quit on the Dolphins went back to college yeah and went down as one of the greatest college football coaches of all time it’s just I the difference in in this day and age the difference between college and pro is just not so wide that it’s like well Tom ISO wasn’t actually a good coach because he never went to the NBA oh yeah no one’s ever goingon to say that no I don’t think so either and I I don’t think there’s any shame in staying in the college game and it it’s challenging especially with all the new rules and all the the the new money that’s flooded in and all that stuff I think it makes it extremely complex to be a a college coach yeah and like maybe even it a challenge that you’re up for you know you have a lot more control over what your roster looks like you have a lot more control over the recruiting of players and all that stuff maybe that’s just like something that that appeals to him it’s the building side and not just just the coaching side so I don’t know plus I mean doesn’t Yukon have a long history with their their NCAA coaches of K keeping them around as long as possible yeah so yeah I mean it’s one of those spots where again he could probably be there for the rest of his his coaching career yeah if you wanted to yeah Jim Calhoun yeah coun and then on the women’s side don’t they have G Orma yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Gino’s been there for 30 plus years now yeah crazy um all right so if you missed it Dan Hurley has rejected the Lakers overtures to be their next head coach they offered him a six-year $70 million contract according to Adrien wowski from ESPN so the Lakers search for a new head coach now now continues for the content we can all pray that it is JJ reck that’s right God I wanted to be JJ reck so bad I finish out the this I got a couple more things from the finals uh has the MVP ladder changed for you at all after game one it was brown Tatum porzingis I now have it as brown Tatum Drew holiday I drew holiday has been excellent I think he’s been excellent too it’s the big three and the big moment where they they were having struggles hitting the the three-point shot and then him and Dereck white go back to back I don’t know Derek white those blocks though that like his his timing not only as a shot blocker which is so impressive but when he blocks shots it always feels like it’s one of the biggest moments in the game it’s such a swing moment you know even if there was a foul like the the Mavs are about to cut the lead to two or to three and just he flies out of nowhere and like nope I mean it’s so impressive what he’s doing I have plenty more to say on that play and um where are we at what time is it yeah 10:58 okay I have I have plenty more to say about that about that play specifically that you just mentioned I don’t want to get to this Jason Tatum comparison because the more I think about it the more it’s wrong but I want to run it by you anyway so we can talk about it on ESPN 1320 Sacramento Sports Center that was weird yeah I’m looking at Derek White salary right now um he’s under contract teams Boston um yeah Derek white has uh next season at $20 million and I’m GNA guess he’s going to get an extension although I up against I don’t know how much they can afford yeah um well uh I think they’re okay though cuz Horford is coming off the books and I you know I don’t know he’s got 9.5 next season and then he’s off the books and then all of their their other dudes uh even por Zing oh no Tatum has a $37 million player option so that salary is going up in 2526 um where is that porzingis porzingis porzingis 30 million for 2526 yeah their core is basically locked up all next season and then um and then white and Horford are free agents year after and Jason Tatum they’re going to have to rework and pay him like a gigantic contract to pretty crazy yeah definitely has to sit in the ice bath yeah there was a lot of flexing that on and now that that’s sow I don’t think that’s right what do you mean I totally disagree that he was flexing after flexing now he is this is this an indication that W was wrong about something no I think he was just flexing so much that is he was sore oh got it okay oh okay okay yes yes okay that okay yeah very was kind of exactly right yeah I like what Derek brought to that it’s funny like they went out dealt Marcus Smart and Derek it just like opened the door for Derek white to like become himself he was good last year but I think what we’re seeing now from him is like super super impressive yeah went he came home he did he did oh wow Derek was almost 30 didn’t expect that when I looked up wow around yeah played all those years thing is is never said that Dan Hurley was going to be the next head coach he just said that they’re preparing to make him a massive offer which they did and then Danley said no rejected sure yeah that’s all they’ve done did you send the dude oh nope I sure didn’t thanks five seconds number two that’s James ham I’m Kyle Madson we’re hanging out with you until noon coming up at 11:30 Horvat of bet MGM tonight if that show sounds familiar it’s because that’s the show that Trista cck is on Trista crick of course on with d and KC every Tuesday we’re gonna have one of our co-hosts on today because we’re going to start having that MGM tonight right here on this very radio station starting tonight at 6m so it’s very exciting for us and for you the listener um the play the Derek the Derek white block slash Jaylen Brown block slash Rim block SL foul yep at the at the end of that game last night where the the Celtics led by five and the Mavericks I think got a steel it’s a block on one in Block that’s right block on one end H Kyrie takes it he gets it up ahead to PJ Washington PJ Washington goes in for a dunk it gets blocked from behind there was a foul on that and Mike Green on the broadcast pointed it out and they talked about it but that is a perfect example of what I want see more of from NBA officials just all the time I would so much rather a call a whistle not get blown on something that should have been a foul than Vice where the ref didn’t see a push in the back it’s very clear that Jaylen Brown pushed him in the back that’s a foul it should have been called a th% PJ Washington should have been going to the line for two because if he doesn’t get pushed in the back like you saw the ball hit the rim he wasn’t he wasn’t even going to dunk that even if dere if Derrik white didn’t come come across and get the ball or his hand which is part of the ball whatever he wasn’t going to get it in the rim anyway because he got pushed but that’s a bad bad no call should have been reviewed or whatever but you can’t review it if there’s no call but I can live with that so much more than if there had been no foul on that play but they whistled one and then the Mavs end up winning that game that that to me is when it’s like dude what you swallow the whistle a little bit like let these dud play like Let The Players figure it out so that’s that’s just that was a prime example of why I prefer officials not blow their whistles in that spot even though like what am I trying to say um I would way prefer a not I don’t know whatever this is stupid I would love like I just want them to get it right and for me like the the hand in the back was was mild and I’m not sure how much it it impacted play or not and it’s tough because you’re going up alongside a guy to go block a shot and like so I think it was a foul I think it’s a foul and a really really crucial moment but I also think like look the NBA up where if they don’t call the foul they don’t call foul and there’s nothing you can do you can’t throw a red flag and say hey that should have been a foul so what I don’t like is the only time you can correct an official is when he’s actually blown the whistle you can’t correct official when he doesn’t blow the whistle so it makes this weird element where you’re like hey that should have been foul we should be able to review that and I don’t understand why you’re like there should be a button you can hit or a flag you can throw or whatever um that would that would Institute an instant like like okay hang on we got to go look at that play um but it’s not in place and I think if you’re gonna call the the playoffs and not only the playoffs but the last 28 Gams of the Season or whatever was if you’re gonna call it a certain way like don’t fail me now like that’s we’re plot committed on what it is you’re calling you’re calling it just like this and if that’s a foul uh like last week it should be a foul tonight but not a foul if you haven’t been calling it for like three or full months straight now then it’s not a foul and and so I don’t know if it’s incidental contact or what I mean you definitely see end in the back and the low back I don’t know that he pushes him through it could foul a hundred times out of aund yeah most of the time it is yeah like that’s that that was it but the overarching point for me was that wasn’t if there had been some Phantom foul call that would have been be got NBA TV on right now they’d be talking about it right now oh yeah yeah yeah oh you’re right where where and that’s the like I hope the NBA sees that and they see what happened in the second half of this year the way they officiated games and I hope the thought process moving forward is like hey they on the side of the defense don’t because a guy drove in and threw the ball up in the air and snapped his headb oh foul on thaty yeah that sucks that that objectively oh no it’s horrible and that’s why even the the weird shots that we keep seeing from Luca where Luka keeps doing these like fade in shots and these he is being defended so well but they’re also they’re not giving him the foul call yeah and so he’s got to keep trying to like BR these bad shots you could I mean there is always the option that you could not be the one taking the shot all of those times but you kind of see like this is the the the weird moment where he can’t foul Griff at all nope and to me that’s good like I don’t want and I’m watching him still try and still yell at the officials but then it’s like hey man this is a new game like let’s go just keep going yeah I did think it was funny last night he got he got a Horford in the air when when Horford was behind him and he fouled him and he got an and one and that was that was one of those like not signature Luca plays but he does that a lot that gets the defender on the back and then a foul it’s like that I don’t even mind that’s fine getting the defender on your back and then and then pump faking getting him in the air and then going up for a shot as they CLA bring you fine do that all day but you’re right it’s the one he gets to like the elbow and he starts to Pivot and you see him leaning in and putting the ball out and try it’s like bro just play the game come on just play it come on and that’s a bad shot it’s a bad shot every time yep you should have already moved off of it but at that point you’ve probably killed most of your uh your shot clock and you a and you got got nowhere to go all right let’s hear from Shaquille O’Neal Shaquille O’Neal said a really interesting thing uh on on NBA TV in the leadup to this game two and the audio is a little tough here because the national anthem is going on in the background but don’t focus on that F focus on Shaq here because he said something really interesting yeah I think if you’re worried about useless titles you know when I was young I worried about useless titles but when I stopped worrying about useless titles start winning championships in my Laker runs I wasn’t the best player on the team I knew that but I knew I was the most dominant so I knew my role I knew what I had to do I wasn’t worried about a useless title so if those two young gentlemen are worried about useless titles who’s the best on the D team this it will definitely affect him that so first of all I think he I counted five times he said useless titles yeah in that in that one clip but I think it’s interesting that he said he wasn’t the Lakers best player during those runs yeah I think he’s gotten far enough away from it yeah where he he feels like he can say that or that he should say that yeah especially with the passing of Kobe sure so maybe that’s why he he does it like he’s right he’s the most dominant player and and I think like if we look at the the Tatum and brown grouping I think you could probably make a similar argument the most dominant player might be Jaylen Brown MH but the the best player is is Jason Tatum and I also think it’s interesting that like letting go of what it is to be like the best center in the league or like whatever you want to put that label on yourself or other people put on you but letting go of that and just focusing focusing on winning I think Jason Tatum has taken that leap and I don’t think he cares at all NOP the only thing he wants is a ring yeah and he said that last night yeah because he had 18 points and 11 assist and he got asked about that after the game and he’s like why would I let my ego or some need to score all the points get in the way of the ultimate goal which is winning the championship and I think that’s like shout out to Jason datam yeah because that I think for for a while and I think we’re moving off of it but for a while the NBA just became such an individualized League that it was it was like hey I need to not only go win this Championship but I have to do it with x amount of points per game and with x amount of numbers because I want everybody to know that this was my team MH and it’s really clear that I don’t think Jaylen Brown feels that way I don’t think Jason Tatum feels that way Derek white Drew I think they’re just kind of in a in a spot where hey if I have to score zero of scoring zero means for me means we win the game I’ll do that and that’s what I I what Jason Tatum has done in this series as a playmaker has been uh not not uh I I knew he could play make but I just I’m been blown away by his willingness to pass in big spots and to make not just pass but like make the right play and he’s still putting shots up he took 22 shots last night it’s not like he’s deferring yeah but to me Jason Tatum has looked like the player that everybody thinks Tyrese Alberton is where he’s affecting the game offensively so much where he’s playmaking as a passer but then he’s also being that really aggressive trying to go get it scorer as well and the way he’s blending those two things it’s just like man we’re we’re seeing a really really high level version of Jason Tatum right now yeah I like that that if you look at their box score if you look at their season stats all of them can score but on top of that all of them have heavy assist numbers and that to me is when we’re starting to see a new Evolution a new different a different type of team I even say Jason Tatum has been here before he’s failed before Luca hasn’t this is where Jason Tatum’s experience in failures are is coming out and Luca’s lack of experience in these situations yep also feels like it’s coming out yeah definitely all right let’s get a good idea or bad idea and then at 11:30 we will have Ryan Horvat from BET MGM tonight which is starting tonight on ESPN 1320 6 o’clock is when that starts but 11:30 we’ll have a little preview with Ryan Horvat coming up as well on ESPN 1320 Sacrament Sports ler Mike Tomlin just signed a three-year contract extension with the Steelers and according to our friend Josh Tau from the AP if Mike Tomlin finishes out his contract the Steelers will go 59 Seasons with just three head coaches it’s outrageous dud 59 season with three head Chuck no to Bill cow to Mike Tom that’s it that’s M Tom’s never finished under 500 that’s so wild that that seriously is so incredibly wild h h yep yeah well that and you just feel like it doesn’t matter at all for them who the best player is that’s something for everybody else to discuss the only thing they want to do is win yeah I don’t I don’t know I think that I think sometimes it’s not super complicated with your your perception as a player is based entirely on what you do in the playoffs that is the case has been the case and always will be the case Jamal Murray never made an Allstar team but everybody’s like oh my God Jamal Murray because of what he does in the playoffs Jason Tatum had go Tatum in the 22 finals was bad flat out the year after that they lost to the Miami Heat who were in the play in and we’re down three nothing in that series like it’s just Tatum got anointed as like that dude early on because he was very good very early in his career and then they continually fell short while he was that dude and when that happens it’s like hey I got to see it before I’m just gonna bet on this guy winning a title yep it’s just how it goes man it yeah I’m with you just I’m fair or not I don’t I just I I I think it’s really interesting like Tatum 4.9 assists per game Jaylen Brown 3.6 4.8 for Holiday 5.2 for Derek white man even Al Horford’s at 26 Payton Pritchard 3-4 Off the Bench like that’s such a good offensive team H yeah I think Tatum is really really good yep he’s going to be one of those guys who’s never the best player in the league but his resume is just going to be so sick by the time he hangs him up that it’s just going to be likeo he was just the best player on a team that was in the Conference Finals in 70% of the years he was on the team yeah Wild also shout out to Brad Stevens here we go now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 hey shout out to uh shout out to Brad Stevens by the way dude is a really good head coach and said I don’t want to do this anymore I’ll go be in the front office now now and is now put together just this Juggernaut of a basketball team that’s going to win the finals in four or five games yeah it’s uh he’s built a sustainable long-term winner and he took some gambl to get there yeah you know he he had the base but going out and getting Derek white was a stroke of Genius but man even this offseason the Drew holiday edition the uh the Chris porzingis but like it it feels like he hasn’t missed all that much yep and just really really impressive what he’s been able to build yeah man really really freaking good team out there in uh in Boston and by the way real quick when I say I I’m saying the the series is over and somebody in the in the chatty house not said no it’s not over Boston just held Surf and if that’s how you want to look at it that’s that’s totally fine I just don’t that I’ve seen nothing in the first two games that makes me think that the Mavs can win four out of the next five games no I don’t I don’t I I haven’t seen anything that I I would pick them to win any one of the remaining games yeah I would agree with you Kyle I mean I I think Boston has had a a tendency in their in their past to let off the gas a little bit yep even in this playoff run where they lost game two like the first two series yep they might let off the gas for a game but I don’t think they want to give any air no oxygen at all to the Dallas Mavericks that’s exactly what this looks like Dallas punched back in game one the Celtics immediately just boa constricted him done yeah did the same thing in game two and I know things got a little dicey there at the end they didn’t execute great down the stretch but I I don’t I I don’t look at this and go man if the Mavs can just make X adjustment like no they’re just not they’re just a worse team it maybe they win one but I’ll believe it’s a series if they tied it to okay then you’ll have me yeah yeah yeah then it’s game on as of right now I mean like again I just don’t see it yeah it’s tough man and Boston has been the best te basketball all season long we thought that you know maybe Denver would be uh a tough challenge but I don’t I don’t know that anyone is is going to be able to even come close to this team and they kind of feel like one of those teams that next season could just turn on the Jets and be even better yeah and like if you give them the confidence of a ring man it could be really really crazy so all right good idea or bad idea we do this every day three things happening in the world and we decide if those things are good ideas or bad ideas hey James I don’t know if you checked out the A’s Blue Jays game yesterday but there was a popup over toward the first base Dugout where the Toronto Blue Jays were residing and as Tyler Sodom for the A’s who’s playing first base went over to try and field this popup in the vast expanses of the foul territory at the Coliseum it appears a uh interpreter for the Blue Jays or translator Jets onto the field and shoulder checks soderstrom as he was going to field this popup and The Interpreter was bailing out of the Dugout to try to not get run over and instead of clearing out side to side he ran straight into the player in front of him is this a good or bad idea for MLB teams to follow moving forward uh it’s a horrible idea I’ve never seen anything like this it very well could have hurt Sodom badly yes I don’t know what was going through that guy’s head you don’t run on the field to avoid a pop foul that might come into the Dugout I mean first of all Soom had he was playing way in the hole I don’t know if you saw where he started he was he was hedging towards second base he was way off the line so he had like 40 yards to run yeah and he’s running he’s looking up he’s twisting in the wind and then boom this dude pops out of nowhere and it’s like bro what are you doing even if even if he avoids Sodom You’ just run onto the field yeah that’s insane totally bizarre go backwards go into the Dugout well that and and their players being good good like ball player at like stewards of of the game should have been watching and making sure that sord ofrom didn’t fly down the stairs and hurt himself and and even you know former A’s uh uh Chris Basset is sitting right there he’s the one who turns his head like I can’t believe that just happened yeah but they’re standing there watching it they should be lining up like hey okay so like we hope that you’re not crashing into here but if you do we might be able to support you a little bit so from what I understand there’s like an Unwritten rule about this okay where if the player is making a play on the ball you get out of the way okay even if he goes crashing down into the Dugout he’s making a play You’re not going to avoid but if he’s sprinting toward the Dugout and that thing goes two rows deep yeah then you hold him up and you catch him okay got it but either way if you’re s if you’re going to be The Interpreter and sitting on a on a Gatorade cooler on the top step of the Dugout fine good spot to sit you’ve got to know you’re clearing out backwards yeah you got to get out of the way you’re clearing out into the Dugout if you’re clearing out there running onto the field is insane terrible idea batter was out by the way if you were wondering yeah they R they ruled the B out for interference interference yeah and did they eject him I don’t know I don’t know either I didn’t I did not see the conclusion there yeah totally bizarre uh number two leaving Caitlyn Clark off the US Olympic women’s basketball team good idea or bad idea I don’t know like there’s only so many spots sure and there are a lot of players who who deserve those spots definitely but also I look at the Dream Team and for some reason Christian lner was on it’s a great point that was a residual from the they only took college players well yeah but they only kept one college player and then like the rest so so I’m not quite sure like I think that there are so many people that are intrigued by her and want to watch her but I understand that there’s a possibility she would not have played very much and that could have not set well with people you know it’s kind of like the reason why Jimmer foret never signed with the Utah Jazz sure because if Jimmer didn’t play the fans in Utah would be chanting for Jimmer every every game waiting for Jimmer to step on the court so I don’t know that like it’s a horrible idea to leave her off I mean you have to earn your spot I think she’s handled it like a pro and like that’s a goal of hers and she wants to work hard and get there and I’m okay with that yeah so and I also I think that there are great players that are already on that roster and should be there and and should have an opportunity to win gold that’s what I have not followed the WNBA closely for a decade or anything like that yep the people who I trust on this thing their entire philosophy on it has been yeah who are you going to take off who are you removing from the roster Caitlyn Clark is one of the best women’s basketball players in the world for sure but from what I understand there’s not like an obvious glaring oh man I can’t believe that player made it they should be off the roster and Clark should be on it she’ll be on the next Olympic team yeah and I’m sure she’ll be she’ll be awesome barring injury probably but this whole notion that it’s a first of all my my thought is it’s a it’s a fine idea if they believe that they have the best group of players to go win a gold medal in Paris then awesome good idea but this discourse that like wow they’re not growing the women’s game by not putting like yo it’s not on Caitlyn Clark’s shoulders alone no if people are going to watch just because of Caitlyn Clark then then you’re not growing the game you just that’s one player like go go watch the Olympics now like go go go enjoy that now I don’t I I just I don’t know I think it’s I think it’s fine I have no no qualms no quals with it uh number three last night I was watching Dodgers Yankees big Dodgers guy now and Aaron judge hit a monster home run just an absolute tank job to left field it was insane and I think they said it was had like a 6.1 second Hang Time just a moonshot and during the next inning they were showing replays and just Ling how man looking at me no bat flips just plays the game the Right Way D just doing that whole charade this is a terrible thing what a God AF a way to Market your sport hey this player is not good because he’s going to hit 60 home runs again this player isn’t good because he does x y and z hey look at hey look at him playing the game the right way as if if he had bat flipped a little after hitting a ball 440 feet it would have been some like crime to the sport it’s so stodgy and gross I hate it I wish they had like a bat flip Zone where you could do bat flips and and look if I’m all I’m all about the baseball like Unwritten rules and written rules like I’m totally fine if guy wants to do a crazy bat flip and and do something stupid and the next time he gets up he gets drilled in the ribs okay I think that’s I’m here for all of it I think that’s dumb too I I love it I’m here for all of it that’s childish that’s childish um no but if but if that player if the pitcher wants to strut off the mountain the next time that player gets that guy out then so be it yeah just celebrate dude it’s fun it’s part of sports it’s a game it is a game like Oh Aaron judge what a what a Class Act oh ER he’s never bat flipped in his life oh oh stupid anyways Ryan Horvat B MJM tonight he’s coming up next we’ll talk about the finals with him and and whatever else we get into I don’t know Ryan Horvat we’ll figure tonight coming up next he’s great he’s one of my favorite people to talk sports with and he’s he’ll be he’ll be with us on the Insiders good God man you’re right over there I am just holy [ __ ] I think Ran’s here you want to bring him in yeah what’s up man what’s up guys oh I can’t hear him oh hang on that’s my bad wait Kyle’s got you Kyle’s not gonna be able to hear you yeah I’m not hey Ryan up dude thanks for hopping out with us the chatty house we’re live on YouTube right now okay so the chatty house can hear you and see you awesome and I can hear say to Ryan perfect yeah I’m just sitting in the kitchen I just ate some uh ate some lunch which is also my dinner because now my day goes until midnight and then I finally get home again oh that’s not great yeah I have those days yeah my commute is about an hour to DC I live in Maryland and then our shows 7 to 11 we have like pre-show meetings and then yeah yeah so I cover the Sacramento King so we have the show in the morning um I live about 40 minutes away from the station and then we we do pre meetings like hour hour and 20 before and then we go from uh 10: to noon and then sometimes I come back on and do another hit from 3: to 4 with another show here and then I’ll go cover a Kings game for another eight hours so yeah yeah I I understand the long days yeah still fun though it is I mean as long as you love what you do you know so that’s how I kind of look at it uh we’re excited to have you guys uh starting what I think it’s tonight right you yeah I don’t know how much uh what how long are let me fix this how many hours of your show are we are we having on the air um I don’t know find out it’s a great question see usually it’s like an hour or an hour or two like I know in Chicago we’re on the final hour 670 to score but only if the Cubs aren’t playing so yeah yeah we used to get like the schedule for all the Affiliates and it’ be like hey welcome these guys welcome these guys and now it’s gotten like out of control where usually you’ll find out and you’ll already have been on the station for like two or three days that’s good though right for you guys when you’re added to another station it is yeah that’s very cool so I think Kyle want to figure it out like how long perfect he’s coming back yeah I can hear you and and but he can’t when we’re until we go live on the air oh through the head okay I got you yeah yeah yeah yeah because I’m running the board and all that stuff too so somebody has to be hearing the commercials during a break yeah yeah actually have I tried this before Ryan say something check one two check check check oh hey there we go you got it yeah I can just put them in pfl this is great oh you figured it out yeah hopefully learn something new every day hey I would like uh my venmo is Ryan Dash Horvat send me perfect helping out the company here I wasn’t I’ve been good man what about you good uh hanging in there enjoying the finals so far yeah yeah kind of I am yeah it’s going it’s going about how I thought it would you’re a bucks guy right yeah yeah yeah unfortunately yeah had Darin ham coming back though that I mean that entire that entire situation is just I would just rather have Mike buen hoser to be honest with you guys like I didn’t understand the Adrien Griffin hire and then now Doc Rivers yeah yeah I don’t know what it means for joer either because joerger was here in sack I know Dave uh yeah H all reach out and what it means for him um with Darin coming back okay here we go hang on guys sweet stupid ask questions now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 B MGM tonight will be airing right here on this very radio station ESPN 1320 starting at six o’clock that is with Nick Ashu Trista Crick and our next guest Ryan Horvat uh joining us on the Insiders we’re sponsored by Jiffy Lube that’s James ham I’m Kyle Madson and he’s Ryan Ryan thank you so much for dropping in uh I know it’s probably a busy day for you with Darin ham coming back to Milwaukee uh congratulations on that that’s big time it is big time it is it is so I was actually a big Darin ham guy like three four years ago now like with Mike buen holer um everybody in Milwaukie I shouldn’t say everybody but people had their issues right like we would get to the playoffs he wouldn’t shorten up his rotations you go back to couple years back they lose in the Eastern Conference Finals to that Toronto Toronto Raptors team and Niko metic like individually shot him out of that series and for whatever reason he was getting run um but he won a championship now the Bucks had a lot of luck that season whether you want to admit it or not if Kyrie doesn’t go down do they even get past the Nets I’m not quite sure but you won a championship a year later he’s removed you bring in Adrien Griffin even though they had a winning record everybody that was watching the games knew that that wasn’t the right fit now you got doc you bring back Darin ham the coaching staff like right now on the payroll they have they’re paying three head coaches man so this is getting a little insane I don’t really love the depth on that roster Brook Lopez is going to be another year older doesn’t play much defense um yeah I’m not really feeling great about Milwaukee the good thing the one thing they have going for him you got another uh you got a full offseason a full summer with Damon Giannis and you still do have Giannis that’s like the one thing that they have going other than being in the Eastern Conference but I don’t feel very good about their future future right now yce um we we have all kinds of breaking news this morning I I want we want to get your take on uh this this wild courtship of Dan Hurley and then him shunning the Lakers and their sixe $70 million offer this morning just where are you at with this because it it seems like unhinged NBA during the off season uh like playing out during the finals and uh just very strange everything that’s been going on over the last two weeks with The Saga yeah and of course it involves LeBron and the Lakers and this off season like I was already expecting chaos are they going to select brownie when are they going to draft brownie is browny gonna uh you know play with LeBron or Lebron and AD going to stick around it looks like they’re going to go in for one more run with this current roster which makes sense um but yeah no big surprise for me I kind of figure Danny Hurley would stay at Yukon you know I mean it’s so hard to repeat as national champions now he has a shot to three repeat I don’t think it’s going to happen but it also shows that he does have interest in the NBA just maybe not right now what I was wondering because I kept saying like that would almost be the smart move to hire Hurley and I know it usually doesn’t work out a hard ass coach like that coming from the college game like we saw this with John beine every other year there were the rumors of Tom ISO going to coach LeBron James when he was in Cleveland it just usually doesn’t work out coach Calipari patino but I thought maybe Hurley could make it work if the Lakers were willing to restart like re rebuild from scratch I don’t know if you want Hurley going in there coaching Anthony Davis coaching LeBron James but if they were looking to rebuild and start things over maybe that makes sense but it doesn’t look like that’s the way that they’re going to go so I guess JJ reick makes sense my concern there he’s never been on a bench kind of reminds me of the Steve nass situation like I know he’s a great basketball mind was a heck of a college player but I don’t know how that works man um so we’ll see but no big shock for me it is the only thing that shocks me a little bit is the money that he’s turning down that’s a lot of money but you know and now he shows though he has interest in coaching in the NBA maybe one day just not this team not this year and it makes sense man especially with everything that you’re bringing back to Yukon and what they’ve been able to do in the transfer portal the last couple years uh Ryan Horvat P MGM tonight joining us let’s shift gears and talk about the NBA Finals the Celtics went up two nothing last night with a 10598 win over the Mavs I think this series is over I think it’s done I see nothing that leads me to believe the Mavericks are going to win four out of the next five games is this series going how you thought it would go or is it not how you thought it would go no so so like the last three years everybody on the show especially Trista they give me a hard time because I’ve been playing the Boston Futures I’ve I bet Boston to win the NBA Finals the last three years let me down a couple years ago against Golden State last year they get embarrassed by Miami and Jimmy Butler but I just love what they did this off season it wasn’t so much porzingis which is obviously a huge upgrade now you have a solid rim protector and he’s healthy right now but I love the addition of Drew holiday that’s the guy I miss most in Milwaukee like Dame made perfect sense if you’re playing NBA 2K and you get better offensively but look what you lose without Drew and I know he kind of got cooked by Jimmy Butler in the playoffs last year but everybody really did but he’s a great on ball Defender you have the games where he could go out and give you 23 25 points seven assists eight rebounds you have Derek white I just think Boston they just have too many options you know for years we were trying to figure out who’s the alpha male is it Jaylen Brown or Jason Tatum and I don’t care what Jason kid says I think it is Jason Tatum but that’s what I like about Jason Tatum’s game right he’s not Kobe MJ he reminds me more of like LeBron he’s the ultimate playmaker where if he’s six for 19 six of 20 from the floor and only gives you 15 points he could give you double digit rebounds he can facilitate he’s also a really good Defender and I love Jaylen Brown like I know his handles aren’t the best but he can knock down shots he defends and he could just put his head down and get to the cup get you those grown man buckets whenever you need and that’s why Boston’s just so tough they’re tough defensively you know we just didn’t really pay attention they were a historic great team this year in the regular season and we didn’t pay attention because we needed to see them get over the hump but that’s just like that was the NBA back in the day you know like Jordan had to get past the bad boy Pistons LeBron had to leave Cleveland go to Miami couldn’t get past those Celtics teams um and that kind of reminds me of what Boston had to do here they retooled Brad Stevens deserves all the credit in the world man I mean like what a great basketball mind what he did with that roster and Dallas just doesn’t have enough Luca is great Kyrie’s great unless he’s going against Boston in Boston I think he’s over for his last 12 in Boston right now but they just don’t have anybody else that could create their own shot and you know drik Lively is a solid player but he’s a rookie playing in the NBA Finals so I think Boston just has too much I think this series goes six at most but right now my prediction is probably Boston and five unless Luca just you know goes off for like 50 game three I think that’s how Dallas has to win this game last night I expected Kyrie to bounce back I played his points prop over 22 and a half you know he got off to a fast start at eight points in the first quarter but they’re locking him down right now and he just doesn’t look right yeah I think it’s interesting how this Series has gone both Kyle and I we had Celtics in five to start um I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a sweep this doesn’t feel like I don’t know like the Celtics feel like they’re they’re like inevitable like what’s happening here you’re just like they are so much better than every other team in the league and we ignore them like you said throughout the year do you think there’s any way that this like somehow turns and we get a longer series I don’t I mean you know we see this in the NBA Finals like every year every other year where you have those game one over reactions but I just I don’t think this is an overreaction unless there’s a serious injury like if Jaylen Brown or Jason Tatum goes down you know maybe Dallas has a shot in this series I just I don’t know what adjustments Jason kid really can make you know I mean I mean like you could try different guys out they just don’t have a whole lot of shot creators I mean you could try to give Tim Hardway some more minutes just other than Luca and Kyrie there’s just really nobody out there that could go and score buckets and like we saw that game one I think you know Luca finished with what two assists game one and yeah one assist and I think they were one for nine on potential assists so he just gave up facilitating he’s like I got to take over and then there’s a lot of standing around going on right now offensively for Dallas too they’re not running any sets and meanwhile for Boston like that’s what I like about them so much man they just pass up good looks for better looks and it could be Derek white one night it could be porzingis one night I don’t think we ever get that porzingis performance that we got game one again um but you know and then we’re still waiting for Jason Tatum to have that game that 40-point game and he is capable of doing it we forget like a couple years ago last year he scored 50 in a game seven against Philadelphia so it’s there it’s just you can’t rely on it every game so no man I don’t think this series goes past six um unless again like injury or just a crazy performance from Luca or maybe Kyrie gets his stuff together like if he could go off for 30 in one of these games that would be huge but him scoring 15 16 points isn’t goingon to get the job done bro that’s where I am staying away from Kyrie for the rest of the series because the second because the second you’re like oh I’m gonna play his under he’s gonna go for 30 but he’s not I just I want I want no parts of it I I don’t know where he’s at well it like the one thing that you could do with Kyrie is if you could live bet props which you could do at most sports books you know his prop his points usually close from 23 and a half to 22 and a half but if he gets off to a slow start which he didn’t last night he had eight in the first quarter but usually with Kyrie like with him and Luca he’ll looked to get everybody else involved early in the game he’ll facilitate and then when he has to take over it’s usually the third quarter you could Li bet the points and they’ll drop him all the way down to like 16 and a half but I’m with you man like last night I went back to it I was like he’s going to go off they’re burning his jersey in the streets they’re stomping on his Jersey every time he touches the ball he’s getting booed but yeah there’s just something there man and Boston is just so good defensively they’re just locking him down he had some good looks last night that he didn’t hit now if you are going back to his points I think the spot to do it is at home like with the role players in Dallas you know like if you want to take Maxi kba over three and a half points don’t do it on the road he’s only getting like two field goal attempts right now do it at home because eventually some of these guys are going to start knocking down some shots and I know that’s cliche but role players in the playoffs do just play much better at home yeah yeah I mean I I agree I this is gonna be crazy I I don’t know the Packers going to be good this year so here’s the thing like the Packers are going to be good guy by the way I just don’t know that they’re going to win 11 games and if you look at the win total market right now in the NFC North you have the Detroit Lions 10 and a half and you have Green Bay 10 and a half if I’m going over 10 and a half I think I would lean Detroit I thought they might be like a there might be some regression coming into the season if Ben Johnson were to accept the head coaching gig but he didn’t so he’s back as OC you have Dan Campbell still um I wasn’t the biggest Dan Campbell guy two years ago like on Hard Knocks when everybody was buying in but I mean the players love him man and that offense I think is only going to be better I worry about Jared gof when he’s on the road in cold weather but like look at that schedule look at their last six games of the Season they’re either in warm weather games or Dome games are at home you have jir Gibbs I think he’s live to win offensive player of the year that’s 22 to1 right now I think he more touches this year and I also think he could catch 70 balls out of the back field maybe that means less Touches for David Montgomery St Brown they get that deal locked up I think he’s one of the better receivers in the league and then uh they look to fix up the secondary in the draft so I think Detroit probably wins 11 games Green Bay should be pretty good the sleeper team and I know they’re becoming kind of sexy right now and kind of trendy I like the Bears man especially the way that that schedule Stacks up for them they don’t have a divisional game until week 11 I’m a Believer in Caleb Williams and defense I have I think has the potential to be top 10 love the Montes sweat pickup the second half of last season I think the Bears could win nine 10 games and maybe be a sleeper in the north I’m I I I’m not ready to buy in just yet to to Chicago but I uh I’m kind of are you out on the Vikings then just entirely I’m not completely out on them I think like this year realistically they could win like seven eight games and then next year they could be back in the playoffs because remember two years ago the pass defense was an issue even though they won 13 games like they gave up 300 yard uh performances to Daniel Jones twice and lost in the playoffs to the New York Giants last year all of a sudden the defense was much better with the addition of Brian Flores coming over as DC I just don’t know who the starting quarterback is is it Sam darnold is it JJ McCarthy I don’t know what JJ McCarthy is man but I know that Jordan Addison’s really good and I know Justin Jefferson’s not going anywhere and you have TJ hackinson they could be a sneaky team it’s funny last year I said this could be the worst division in the NFC now I think it could be the best division in I’m with you man I think any any of those four teams have a shot to win it for sure that’s Ryan Horvat he is a host of bmgm Tonight you can hear that uh starting tonight 6 PM right here we’re going to carry it on ESPN 1320 Ryan thanks so much for your time and we’ll do this again soon man thanks for much guys see you buddy there he goes Ryan orette check him out also the kurur and long podcast with our guy Steve feifer Cur and long yeah it’s a great it’s spacular yeah it’s a Packers podcast they do a really really nice job though so make sure check those guys out there oh my God here we go got a muted Kenny caroway in the building do the finals are over man that’s what’s going on finals are over a week that that’s what I was I was on that I was it’s news to everybody else not news to me news to us I I still five no you said it was over two so not news to you we’re all we’re amongst this group of people here and Jesse Yeah Siri’s been over it’s been over but people people said on Friday oh KC DLo being over reactionary to game one the the story was not whether or not the Mavericks go win the series because in my opinion they can I’m with can they win a couple of games I got it in five still to this day to this day I got it in five I’m gonna give the Mavericks the respect of saying they won’t get swept Y and say it’s Mavericks in five but that’s the conversation can they win one or two games not can they win this series yeah to win the series they have to win four the next five a happen did Boston lose four out of five games all year doubt it no I’m I’m guessing they didn’t I would bet a significant sum of money they didn’t I’m gonna look it up while we’re talking yeah please I was I was gonna do that what’s their longest oh my God they just dude it they’re so freaking good they they’re they’re really good they’re really good they are really good they are by far the best team in basketball but what is what it’s also a combination of is there isn’t anybody that can really match up with him right like because I don’t I don’t want to say even though the numbers May support like some of this talk I’m I want to show respect to the teams that we believe are the true great teams in NBA history so I don’t think they’re the 17 Warriors right I don’t think they’re the 16 Warriors I don’t think they’re you know th those mid late 90s Bulls teams right like I don’t think they’re great like that but there is no competition as famulous once said famulous and and and uh DJ Drama I think it was there is no competition um for this for the Celtics team this year like that they’re by themselves the the Mavericks aren’t gonna get it done I and that’s not even a knock on the Mavericks because I don’t think any team in the west I don’t think so either I think the Mavericks are a good team I think they did a great job of just kind of Reinventing themselves on the Fly and what they’ve done is is a is a heck of a season for that franchise and you know maybe it’s Rings board something in the future but this the Mavericks aren’t the team to beat the cels yeah the Celtics their longest losing streak on the season was two games which they did four times but they dispersed those throughout the season including a stretch where they won like let’s see three four five six seven eight nine 10 11 in a row lost two and then came back and won nine in a row so they lost two but they won like 20 out of 22 during that stretch no but you’re already you’re already seeing the conversation shift though because Ryan Ryan our Our Guest Ryan Horvat B MGM tonight just said like yo we needed people needed to see it with the Celtics they’d been really good all year but they got kind of ignored because all right hey we know they’re going to be in the playoffs what can they do once they get there can they not fall apart against the Heat for example and now that they’ve gotten to the finals and they’ve dominated in the finals the way they have I think people are starting to now retroactively go back and go oh yeah they won 64 games oh yeah they were uh their net rating all year was historically great their net rating in the playoffs is historically great yeah man it’s just it’s been there all year yeah I guess I guess when people do that um I guess I understand it I never felt that way about this Celtics team like they got to show me you know before I think they’re the favorites to win the final like they were always the favorites to win the finals I just I that’s just the way I looked at them I thought there was I thought there were teams maybe one team so so to speak that might be able to give him something that’s Milwaukee I’m talking like at the beginning of the season I thought Milwaukee might have had the Firepower to hang with them offensively as time went along you saw they didn’t have the defense to keep up with those guys or the cohesion um as the playoffs went along I thought maybe New York might be able to battle with them I thought Minnesota might be able to battle with them but I mean number one we’ll never know number two it probably would have been much like this right now I agree I agree they’re just man Denver as well I don’t want to leave Denver out there I think Denver I thought the Celtics were better than Denver but I thought Denver had some components that that might be able to to to get after him but now this team is this team is level above everybody else hang on one second hey caller we’re not taking calls right now okay all right thanks somebody was just somebody was just calling in and it was just I don’t know they weren’t going to say anything so wanted to wanted to hear him say answer the phone Kyle if they well if they call back then we’ll then we’ll put him back on but no I just can’t I can’t answer like that’s what we’re short short uh on the it doesn’t matter we we are but I really enjoy that aspect when I listen listen to the show and like uh you take the call and you don’t have a call screener so you literally take the call and I know there’s a little bit of caller ID but it’s like uh Hey we’ve got Jack here in Sacramento Jack what’s going on yeah it’s actually Dan how are you doing I love it that is one of the best things about the show yeah Don you’re on the Insiders with Kenny carway what’s up how you doing today Mr mat Mr Mr kway oh I know who this is what’s up big dog what’s up how you doing man I had two trade proposals to see what you guys bro we hey call us back tomorrow we got like two minutes left and I know that your call is going to take all that time yeah ja ja call call back so you get more time Big Dog wait for the guy that was to me talking about bet but it’s 11:52 I think eight minutes left but I’ll call shout out Javier Javier should know no Javier is a veteran radio listener he should know there’s not eight minutes left in the show no we got like two it 56 every day 56 shout out to uh it’s it’s just like it really is like a box of chocolats like you never know what you’re going to get with the phone call that’s what I I think that’s what I like about it like you you never really know like who’s calling like what’s going on as a listener I’m glued to that wow thanks man great I like that I don’t know who’s calling at all he might know who it is I I have no idea I’m like all right I got nothing outside of Mitch yeah I got I got Mitch hey Mitch has been asking the Kings to sign to Anthony Melton for six weeks now yeah if they sign De Anthony Melton I’m getting him a DeAnthony Melton Kings jersey and we’re gonna get it out to him that’s right we got I’m still waiting for Mitch to get out here you gotta get out here he has to he’s retired he’s not doing anything yeah Mitch pull up there was birds chirping today when he came on dude yeah that was great uh did you make anything of the Sasha venkov stuff from the weekend uh n not really I mean I I just took it all at face value I take it at you know and there are conflicting reports that you guys kind of talked about a little bit but if he’s not happy I completely understand it yeah you know what I mean I feel like he was told to come out here under you know certain understanding and I can’t believe that this type of playing time this role is what they tried to convince him to come over with um and I I could understand him being upset I could understand maybe Mike Brown looking at it and be like he doesn’t fit what we’re doing like once he’s here and Y not getting an opportunity I would have gave him more of a shot I thought he deserved more of an opportunity to play and be part of the rotation on a regular basis but yeah all of it seems logical to me I just feel like the Kings didn’t have the other pieces to put him on the court to support him on the court and that’s okay like I you know it is what it is but I just don’t know that the pieces that they have fit with what he’s bringing they needed long athletic players to play with him to disguise some of his some of his like his faults and they don’t have that style of player I I don’t think him and Al Len as like a bench Duo would have been like enough probably not going to work out yeah he also suffered a injury that took him out for what about six weeks or so yeah he missed 22 games at one point but he had missed like eight the like right before that yeah two two major ankle sprains and both ankles and he would have gotten he would have gotten legit shots I think with Kevin herder and Malik Mona oh totally he he definitely would have gotten some burn there maybe that would have changed his mind but yeah I I’m with you there’s no way when he came over that this was the like hey you’re gonna fight for a rotation spot I don’t that was 12 minutes a game no I don’t think that was a plan what do you guys got coming up on DLo and casy uh NBA Finals talk more of this Sasha talk um Kaylin Clark not making the Olympics uh we got a got a number things it’s a Monday so things happen over the weekend wait D and KC coming up at noon they’ll take you up till 4 uh for James ham I’m Kyle Madson we’ve been The Insider sponsored by Jiffy Lube everybody have a great rest of your Monday and until tomorrow drink water and be nice to people see everybody thanks for bearing with me today appreciate you you and your drink water e e e e chatty house what’s good baby Drew down what up boy Auden J what’s happening bity Blake what up Spencer what’s good what’s good Marty Mo Drew D what’s that what’s what’s the deal going on where uh that’s kind of that’s a trip man where they they disabled a the chat on uh 957 oh somebody got in their feelings a little bit that’s kind crazy well got to be got to be sharp got be on it got to be sharp Warren what’s happening baby [Music] K Rex yeah yeah we got him screaming D KC Klo KC we got screaming Klo we a number one spot one spot for some sports huh got the city going crazy when we work huh we top two but we ain’t two we in first huh and when you need the real we is who you search D KC K D [Music] KC number one what’s good baby what’s good what’s good one more time for the summertime temperatures one more time for the weekend that’s behind us and we welcome you in here to the Monday June 10th edition of D KC I’m Daman borling the ultimate needle mover in God B himself pe’s KY carway yes sir acknowledge me man we’re happy that you’re here with us quite a bit to dive into sashaa zenov what report do you believe Oh either one it doesn’t really matter it feels like Sasha’s leaving well well I I I wouldn’t necessarily just say that I get it but I’m you know want something out of the deal want something out of I was we’ll talk about it I was curious what this year might look like for him and now I’m not like I mean I I don’t know what to say like I’m not gonna uh you know be be heartbroken over this but I I I don’t know if it’s a missed opportunity on his part A missed opportunity on the king’s part or or what it is and then of course on the screen now Dan Hurley turns down a sixe $70 million offer uh if you were with us on Friday I don’t I don’t we certainly didn’t predict this but we did Telegraph it uh six years $70 million man it’s almost as if we had a tip on this one um but the the the text we got during Friday show certainly get there were two really strong indications one this was far far from a done deal and two Dan Hurley was not happy that this was made public it was not Dan Hurley nor his Representatives that made this per uh public and it it makes me wonder if that weighed into uh his decision to potentially go back and uh win another championship with with the Yukon Huskies or to just stay at Yukon whatever you whatever the case may be yeah if it’s it’s one of those things where we hear people talk about it all the time in negotiations and all the other stuff sure you’ve heard of it I don’t know if it’s an 100% uh like uh correct all the time but it’s always that thing where they say don’t let them leave without signing the contract if they leave without signing the contract you’re probably not gonna get him yep and maybe that’s kind of what happened here once he left LA and didn’t sign the writing that was yeah yeah you’re you’re 100% right um that goes for employees that goes for recruits that goes for free agents that goes for everyone don’t let them leave without signing because once it’s tough like once you you can you you have other people who make noise some of those people are really important wives kids closest confident like those people are really important but the worst is when you’re alone and you’re trying to decipher all of that stuff on your own and then you start getting in your own head that is what every company team employer wants to avoid is don’t go home and overthink this situation six years $70 million you talk about resetting the first year head coaching Market this is it and man when he didn’t sign okay I’m a I’m a big believer a lot of the times and maybe it’s just like um maybe it’s a little too impulsive or something like that M but speaking in Dan Hurley’s situation and his mind frame he knew what he wanted to do before he got on the plane to go back to Connecticut yeah I feel like I think I feel like you’re yeah I feel like you’re right I would think for me I would think if I’m in in his shoes I know what I want to do and in La I’m going to do what it is I want to do if I want to go to the Lakers I’m going to LA to sign the contract eventually sign the contract big man sign the contract going to sign the contract I don’t know man I might Fade Into Bolivian you know I mean um got nothing to do fight back on by the way I saw that that is crazy that’s nuts um not needed no not at all but I’m going out there to sign the contract if I don’t really want to do it I’m going out there as a courtesy to just say at least I can say I went out there and I saw all options but at the end of the day I don’t really want to do this and I think I think he knew what he wanted to do before he left stores Connecticut or wherever he stays interesting um glastenbury Connecticut is where he GL oh yeah your neighborhood old neighborhood I mean his his neighborhood his his jet was all over Twitter daman’s jet was all over Twitter I don’t where you like why you invented that on Sports last night that was very bizarre no that’s that’s really it look like you’re jet I don’t have a jet like stop somebody’s gonna believe you like I do not have a jet stop it Southwest is my Jet and I don’t even have a uh what’s it called business select or whatever they call it I don’t even have that I have to have someone else book my ticket so I can get a a a a call I feel like Cheryl Grove has that she I don’t Southwest fly to Egypt or Dubai Wherever She Flies good point I don’t know I don’t know the Southwest hits up those regions uh but I know your mom’s got frequent flyer miles that’s for sure I disagree I I I I agreed I guess I misunderstood with what what you meant when he got on the plane to come back to Connecticut I feel like he knew what he wanted to do when he got on the plane to go to Los Angeles I’m not sure I’m not sure that he knew at that point um by all the counts the negotiations had gone on for a little while the conversations had gone on uh for a little while I did find it weird this whole situation with Adrien wowski and the report have been weird but it was weird reading you know uh Dan Hurley massive contract uh long-term coach all of these different things and then you know a few hours later or whatever it was during the finals after the fin yeah he’s going to head to LA tomorrow I’m sorry he’s not there you threw this report out there and he’s not even there [Music] yet which which goes to that that’s why I feel how I feel about you might be right yeah you might be right what were they gonna tell him he didn’t already know well and and that’s the and and the one the one thing that that that makes me seem that or makes me feel like he might have been a little more open mind to it when he got on the plane to go there is if there had been Damage Done For recruits you could it had been done like I If you knew instead of telling your team yeah it’s real it look look the reports are real I I I have had conversations with him I haven’t agreed to anything it’s business as usual what it was his line if he knew he could have told his kids yeah it’s real I’m not going they did call they did ask we did talk I’m not going anywhere I’m right here with you guys let’s we and we got work to do so put on your workout clothes and let’s go get our stuff in um once the report gets out there like Dan Hurley and Yukon have different Hills to navigate and I can’t I mean I I I I feel like the fact that it got public hurt the Lakers I think so too for because I don’t think Dan Hurley is here for the nonsense he’s like this is this y’all kept this quiet for this long now keeping it quiet it could have been three days or like Adrien W jow said could have been a month two weeks whatever y’all kept it quiet for this long but it just so happens two days after this JJ rdick report gets out there just so happens on the day of the NBA Finals when you’ve got four extra hours of content to fill this gets out there you can’t tell me him his demeanor and the way like his whole family is that they were okay with that and and I don’t know that that I’m not insinuating that killed the deal but it sure as hell didn’t help for sure absolutely man and uh I I just and the quote that we got by the way because we didn’t say this right I I think we alluded to it we didn’t say the quote that we got verbatim is Dan Hurley is pissed yeah and I I I just there there’s a part of me that always thought like there maybe you should take the the chance if you’re Dan Hurley like you can you can always go back right you can always go back you may never get this particular opportunity again um but I think there’s also something to be said to you know being happy where you are knowing how to maneuver in the world that you’re in right now and you know keeping that I don’t I don’t want to say staying because it could have been successful so with the Lakers but keeping that stain off your career and your resume you know potentially you know and and when it comes down to the money uh which was was spoton to some of the things that you had mentioned last week um I think that can be made up for like you mentioned in a place like stores Connecticut you know I think we we had them at like eight we had them at eight I think the number was eight and a half that Yukon had gotten up to and I have not seen a report about a new Yukon contract but that just wait yeah on way price is up we it’s on the way but you also mentioned you laid out perfectly he’s making that type of money without spending a dime that’s right yeah my man does not pay for expin no he gets everything uh I don’t want to say handed to him but provided for him yes he does like I’m sure he has a brand new car waiting for him every six months year what whatever it is like whatever whatever he wants yeah absolutely it’s uh it’s College it’s college sports version of Florida no state yeah that’s that’s a shoot yeah that’s that’s absolutely a shoot like you get so much uh you get so much taken care of for you as the head coach of a major university like and you throw a couple of national titles thing come on now come on D come on man and you know you being there he might get endorsements no I I doubt there’s any might well I’m saying I’m not even saying I’m saying National might not get that with uh with the Lakers but he may be on the afflac commercials with uh San and Don Staley and and Coach Prime there you go you know in these situations now being in sores Connecticut as opposed to if he was with the Lakers so I think there’s pros and cons to both of them but I think I think this is a a good decision by him to stay at Yukon I think ultimately this was probably what would be best for the Lakers because I don’t think Dan Hurley would have worked worked out the way they might have thought and at the end of the day um wge and all those guys they got to explain why they they broke this thing down for two days like it was a done deal and now they got to kind of run it back a little bit so is sham celebrating like what what is sham celebrate a little bit you gotta celebrate a little bit but like WJ wasn’t wrong Shams does not get to celebrate like the deal just didn’t work out pal like we still like you still reported JJ and all that but it still could be JJ which is the whole point and he never said JJ was the first and only option he he said it was the front runner the front which isn’t true because Dan Hurley turned an offer down like that means he was the front runner true but W Shams got to feel something today I mean W’s reporting wasn’t wrong he reported it he had it and from a Lakers standpoint which tells you where all of this came from from a Lakers standpoint everything that he said was true and Dan Hurley just said thank you but no thank you so wge isn’t wrong but in the end Sha’s original report yeah could could if Shams would have said hey JJ’s the plan B then yeah we’re good but yeah no and and and maybe I’m looking too far into this but the way the way this thing was reported for about 48 Hours Wes was really out there like nah this is about to happen they had Stephen a talking about it on first take wge went on there he was this wasn’t a you know they’re they’re this is a this is part of the process it may happen and then they move on to something else it was a little victory lapish for wo well that’s why they that’s why they did it because I the four extra hours of content they needed for that NBA Countdown show that aired in the middle of the day we’ll come back uh there’s a lot more to talk about with this situation we will uh there’s a lot to talk about with the Sacramento Kings uh and we’ll certainly do that in my apologies to Jesse oh to away well what you apologizing for well it was it was you know we all they was gonna win well I understand all good we got another week of this don’t worry I’m good we’ll get into it Ste with Casey here on ESPN 1320 yeah it’s a it’s a good question I I I meant to we we that that’s that’s super super weird that’s that’s uh that’s lowkey it’s lowkey hate it’s lowkey hate lowkey shade not towards JJ theams think it’s talk time to talk about the Lakers just don’t got it like that anymore I don’t think it’s just the Lakers I don’t think it’s just the Lakers I think people and this is probably better you know for on the air content radio content oh no don’t don’t don’t say don’t say because I wanna I wanna wan to know first time what you think or what you’re about sayna know are you going tomorrow night complex just asked me yeah I got I got everything I got okay you you got okay I tell you what though episode one of winning Time season 3 is gonna be sick this might be the best sports week of Jesse’s career her life at least basketball career I’m assuming you don’t want to go see Janet Jackson tomorrow okay all right how many Janet Jackson songs you know I think I’ve heard Janet Jackson songs but I couldn’t like put a name on them man man who’s did you listen to who’s the equivalent of that for for me would it be like um would it be Diana Ross like no you would know Diana records you you know I don’t know I don’t know a lot of name of Diana Ross records right so I know who she is I know what she did Supreme and all that but I think you know more than you think uh but I don’t know maybe only you can answer that question baby love is that the one with the spring was that her my babyy love my baby one like a 100 yeah okay so I know that one do you know one you know I’m coming out you know uh respect you know uh Stop in the Name of Love You know all those records Stop in the Name of Love just for the record just for the record Stop in the Name Name of Love nothing else got to be careful got to enunciate uh what’s the one that uh yeah respect isar the Franklin what’s uh what’s the um what’s the one The Supremes did that Phil Collins covered I don’t know uh man what’s that y’all don’t know it what is that song that the Supremes did is their record but Phil Collins covered it and it’s kind of fire y’all are going to know it did you listen to um I just looked up Janet’s top five on Spotify I’m not familiar come on man I’m young come on man um anytime any place is that on the top five I think it was I think that was number one that’s the one that’s the one good call right there that’s the one that’s um that’s that’s the Kendrick sample Poetic Justice Kendrick song as far as I’m concerned don’t do that don’t do that that may be I was thinking about this today I was do you know Michael Jackson songs yeah okay all right all right otic Justice might be my is Jenna Jackson like considered like R&B what would she be considered R&B than pop yeah I mean I listen to like pop R Mark was more Mark Mike Mark Jackson Mark Jackson the pop star Mike was more pop than R&B more times than not okay but Janet was kind of first yeah she took a lot of R&B pop though because that Rhythm Nation album was a monster but like your after Rhythm Nation she seemed to go like all right I’m going to R&B yeah yeah Janet feels like an R&B album yeah um I was gonna say I think Poetic Justice I don’t want to say it’s my favorite Kendrick song but it’s it’s definitely top five I love that song yeah they put that fever Mystics attendance up there which is dope like 20,000 like that’s fire like the Aces and Sparks sold out too yeah 177,000 like it’s not that was a big crowd and that’s the thing I think that’s annoying people is like you keep putting the fever’s attendance up there as if the attendance across the rest of the league is in massive right now well and then not to fuel the Rivalry thing but the night before they did what like 15 16,000 in in Washington that’s 15,000 people showing to see this team win their first damn game they were to the rafters in this game though I I saw like a yeah they was out there Full Arena shot they were they were in the building I like those uh black Mystics jerseys I don’t know when they switched up but I like it I got I got two things real quick because I want to we got a couple things that we were gonna talk about but two things I want to give a uh a shout out to our our guy Jason our guy Jason that we met on on Saturday oh yes sir our guy Jason old soul and Cole yeah I definitely gotta get over there man but he he he showed a lot of love man say he’s sent us home with some coffee I was yeah yeah I gotta try some of that I gotta figure it out though because um I got a cach so I gotta the attachment but I don’t know where it’s at so yeah that’s yeah okay that’s you need to find the attachment yeah yeah so I can do that once I do that I’m I’mma check it out but big UPS to him um and also for people who paying attention to this stuff uh Malik’s Instagram is back we got King’s pictures on there yes sto thing is back we’re good we’re good guys all right I on Instagram needed a 12 hour break on Instagram like 20 minutes before the show and he popped up on the stories and I was like oh Malik’s got a story may maybe he still has it scrubbed but he’s still posting stories and then I went to his page and no everything’s back yeah everything’s fine need a statement from Instagram about that you have a you have a uh uh I don’t want to do this period like you could delete your account they’re like all right that’s cool yeah you can delete it bro it’s not really gone for like 30 days so we’ll see you in like 28 you’ll be back yeah you’re not getting ready is there anything worse in the whole soci social media and sports era like um worse than player deleting Instagram or Twitter or their like photos about the team no I think it’s no that’s funny I think it’s funny I think it’s w it’s what are we there’s actually well and then they probably don’t handle it but that takes a lot of energy to like delete all those or archive those scroll through figure well for those guys it probably doesn’t like I was looking at I had to uh Hey shout out to my man Ley Ley got up uh shout out in the building so Ley was out with you Saturday night yeah uh with Kayon for real for real District 30 the whole deal movie status Ley was up early in the morning with me on Sunday uh out at the lake filming a PSA so um I don’t know where I was going with that but trying to shout out Ley Instagram oh Kyle use Che K it’s the it’s the same PSA Kyle it’s a similar PSA that Kyle yek did I went to Kyle eek’s page because I wanted to send the the PSA to Ley Kyle couldn’t do it his whole Instagram page is essentially being a 49er if that dude even changed teams his Instagram page would look weird like it like if you go to Kyle eek’s page right now it’s basically just all red and gold like everything like you know nothing about Kyle yusek other than he’s a San Francisco 49er and his wife makes dope things that people wear into the arena that’s a about all you’re going to get from his Instagram account um so not everybody can can scrub their account of their current teams but I’m glad Malik’s back Malik Malik is back on Instagram I don’t know if that he ever left well I don’t even know if that means he’s like back with the Kings it means he’s agreed to a deal with Sacramento that’s what it means we got love for you Malik man yes indeed don’t go nowhere um so we can open Malik’s please oh man leaks will be leaks will be going up that’d be crazy can’t wait we did we decide if we were gonna put it in old sack or we not putting it no no we I’m no say it like that say it like that there was never a discussion about putting Maliks in old sack no we just talked about how that’s the Hollywood of like Sacramento where do they put clubs at no no since when they put clubs in Hollywood what are we talking about no they don’t do they don’t put them in old sack that’s what I’m saying we we we bring it back no let’s not let’s not I’m well I’m not advocating for it I just thought it no okay no so it’s not it’s not 705 that’s fine with me do we have a reserve table at Malik every day or how does that work we should we should just kind of putting that out there absolutely we have a we have a reserve table and we we have uh a table like Good Fellas we just boy you really you’re really all in on this movie movie again did you really I said I might watch it oh good f is a classic that was a really good move bro talking about running it back on Good Fellas still hasn’t gotten to episode two of season two well yeah but I’m in season two now you are you are there salute so I do point out that season one is like five episodes long but salute salute salute um no I didn’t know Malik’s thing was back that’s cool I guess um oh Rich forgot to put makeup on this morning man come on like Richard Jefferson looked like he partied last night and like the producer called him and said hey you got NBA today today oh word oh crap that’s a tough jacket too yeah it’s not working I that’s the one pull I will say it’s better than what he’s done in the past like I said I’m not saying he he looks like Ryan Clark up there but I see some improvements from him you you you must have got a text from Richard Jefferson because you’ve been awfully nice to him lately well it’s I just see improvements it’s not where it should be did he send you his OVO jacket Windor got one of those did you see he was wearing it like on the on the quarter well they all got one didn’t they weren’t we watching they all got one I mean yours is different yours is obviously you know part of the crew did you get a a text with a rat no no I don’t talk to Drake at all anymore I never have talked to Drake I saw Joe Buton said Dr stop talking to him same for you Joe Joe no he never started talking to me to begin with I don’t have any communication with Dr you Joe and Elliot Wilson he just won’t talk to none of y’all no more huh he won’t talk to me because he doesn’t know me I don’t know him I don’t know what his deal is with the other two okay whatever you say you said during the commercial breaker maybe Jesse said it that um that cache of the Lakers job is just it’s gone you know you’ve got you know Dan Hurley turning it down in a very very high-profile very very public uh rejection M I don’t think it’s just the Lakers as my guy I think there’s a LeBron factor to this too because if you’re Dan Hurley and Jeanie or Rob or who whoever you’re meeting with I’m I’m sure it’s all of them are telling you this is a long-term project we want you here to build the Lakers up the way riy did the way Phil did the way all of the great coaches of this organization’s past have done we want you to do that this isn’t a short term let’s try to figure it out this is you are the guy to bring the Lakers back to Championship prominence this is this is you that’s a great pitch but if I’m if I’m Dan Hurley I know in all likelihood might not but in all likelihood I’ve got LeBron James team I got LeBron James on my team probably for the next couple of years that’s if he likes this higher if he doesn’t like this higher that’s a whole other story I have to deal with before I ever coach a game but if LeBron is back here i’ I’ve got that we both know there’s no you know dipping your toe in the water getting accustomed to the temperature when you’re Lebron james’ coach it’s you’re getting picked up in your suit and thrown into the deep end immediately the day you step on the floor at training camp you’re in the deep end of that pool whether it’s perfect warm temperatures or it’s ice cold that’s where you are and you better figure out how to swim you better figure out how to make it work and any line about long long-term building longterm this long-term that for if if I was Dan Hurley would have been met with complete skepticism you need me to win right now if LeBron James is back on this team it’s not oh look at the growth of the Los Angeles Lakers this year no it’s LeBron James didn’t win a title this year how many years does he have left Rob palinka didn’t do enough to subround LeBron James and Anthony Davis with what they needed despite the fact they went to the Conference Finals a year ago and everybody was Laing them telling them they were going to be great this year somehow they didn’t have enough that’s what y’all this going to fall on me one bump shoulder one side eye Anthony Davis gets up at the wrong time from a huddle and it’s a it’s a massive news story anything that that the Lakers brass told Dan Hurley about long-term building with the Los Angeles Lakers without hearing it I can tell you definitively was a lie Dan Hurley is brought in to win a championship next year if LeBron James is on this team if LeBron James and Anthony Davis are Los Angeles Lakers the expectations for Dan Hurley is to win a championship next year immediately I I agree with that but two things can be equally true in this situation they could be committed to him long term and still have expectations of winning a championship because say the expectations for LeBron and how long he’s going to play maybe another two or three years or play through a contract or something like that your expect ations is to win a championship while he’s there but when he leaves whether it’s free agency or retires you could still be the coach of the Lakers they could look at it like we still want you to be the head coach of the Lakers even after the LeBron era is over so I don’t know if it was a it was a Flatout fabrication saying we want you to be no I believe it was a well-intended lie they in their head they meant it to be true and maybe in their head maybe they felt the way that you did until you go two years without winning a championship with LeBron Dames LeBron James and Anthony Davis on the roster then I think the tone changes do you think that’s different for for any any team with expectations with legitimate Championship expectations no I I think that’s the I think that’s that’s how it works mhm that’s what that’s what Doc Rivers is facing right and he’d be paid he’d be compensated fairly for those expectations he would be but the Yukon job would be gone true so that you you you you gota wait now could he get another job of course he could like he absolutely could but how much does he love stores Connecticut how much where’s he from Jersey New York he’s from New York he’s from Jersey you’re coaching in stores Connecticut is that the biggest university in the Northeast that or Syracuse Syracuse I mean St John’s probably not quite there but like it’s really Syracuse or or or or Yukon and and certainly in recent years it’s been Yukon as the bigger program that job’s not going to be there for you now again another one will but that one won’t and that’s those are probably all things that ran through his head on that long flight from Los Angeles back to Harford do you think any any positions in the NBA coaching position stuff like that has the Jesse talks about the the cache um do do any of them have that at this point like because and there was a time when like the whole adage was you know you go to the Lakers front offices and they got all the championship uh trophies there and you walking in it’s like man this is the Lakers there’s no way I can turn this down and now it feels like if that’s not one of them like I don’t I don’t know what franchise would like maybe Boston but I I feel like Boston and the Lakers are about one and the same yeah when something like but the Celtics aren’t as dysfunctional in their hirings as the Lakers are I feel like Boston runs their NBA hiring just like every other team it’s like we’re going to interview these guys it’s just normal it’s not like how the Lakers one played out with this we’re going to go after this insane coach or whatever I don’t know Brad Stevens was that I mean years after that but but even think about the Brad Stevens thing that was quiet until it was done there wasn’t a peep about the Brad Stevens hire until they actually made it and then from there you go from Brad to em OD DOA Brad doesn’t quit he doesn’t get fired he moves to the general manager position so he moves to a front office position and they they move up em odoko so now you have em odoko as your head coach every belief that em is going to be your long-term coach until he’s not you have that situation go the way that it does and they elevate a guy from within and I think those all tell different stories than what the Los Angeles Lakers story tells the Celtics are a more competently run organization I know incompetence and dysfunctional I know it’s only Sacramento there couldn’t be another team in the league that operates under uh poor decisionmaking and all that stuff unless it’s you know run by VC Ronda D just ask Rory he’ll be he’ll tell you just ask all of the the the VC haters on social media they’ll tell you because the Lakers since Phil Jackson zon have been run like a pristine organization haven’t they that was sarcasm they haven’t they’ve fired as many coaches as the Kings have and now you’re getting publicly rejected that’s tough by an evolving uh by a coach in a sport that’s like evolving by the day like our my opinion on college basketball I don’t think our opinion on college basketball and college sports it hasn’t changed because Dan Hurley stayed in college like he recognizes if I’m staying at Yukon one I’m getting a hell of a raise but two I have to adjust year to year to year to year during however long this contract is because this sport that I’m in is just continuing to evolve from television rights negotiations to Super conferences to mergers to Nils to to team-wide sponsorships to all of these things that are happening here within this game I have to adjust and evolve on shoot a year-to-year basis and might be a month-to-month basis at this point and man to me that even speaks more to this Lakers job just it’s a it’s a tough one yeah I mean I I think uh the way they go about things um may turn some people off but I I I asked that question say I don’t think there’s any I don’t think people look at these franchises like that anymore the maybe coaching and playing is a little bit different because I think a player I think that’s one of the ways they got LeBron James I mean the the wasn’t a great organization it wasn’t be ran great when LeBron went to the Lakers but LeBron some want to live in LA don’t want to be a Clipper want to be a Laker and he made the decision so maybe coaches look at it a little different than the players do uh but I I just don’t know if there’s there’s there’s but the LeBron I think you but LeBron wanted to live there right like that’s that was a big appeal to to La like I want to live in LA MH and this dude’s like an East coaster for life at least to this point but but so that’s that’s my that but that’s kind of my point though it’s more it’s more that individual as opposed to the franchise not having the same cache you know what I I think and and the C and then the other point I was making was I don’t know if anybody really has that cache anymore I think the Celtics are ran at a very high level like they are ran great but a year or two ago or even now what were we talking about they can’t get no free agents nobody wants to come there regardless of how the organization has ran or the the number of championships they have so I don’t I I it just SP a bigger thought a bigger question of like are there still organizations in the NBA or we could even go on Sports where it’s like n you can’t turn that down you can’t turn that down head coach of the Cowboys you think that’s that’s what it used to be um manager of the Yankees maybe I feels like it no I mean it feels like those are I mean being the head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers does still feel like a big deal [Music] um I don’t know maybe it’s not maybe you’ve maybe you’ve bastardized the position like like I mean no knock like and this this sounds ter terrible but you you jumped from you know Vogal to darham you moved on from darham you like you had you had Phil Right like you had Phil Jackson here through a couple of stints like you’re the organization that had Pat Riley um you you have had like top tier NBA coaches and and now you’re just kind of well trying to find the next well this ain’t it God damn it well okay not not not throwing but you know you hire Luke Walton oh what w you hire Luke Walton you could have went without that uh Doris Barling but but he was but he was a Lakers coach right like get in here like rebuild this thing let’s get moving all right all right there there and then like you move on from him and it’s you know it’s going to be this guy and this guy and then it’s this guy yeah like who took Luke’s Place was it Frank was it vogle yeah yeah I mean maybe so that’s tough you uh vogle into Darin on from Darin now your next your next guy gets rejected that’s a tough look that’s a tough look so you think they really just pivot to JJ I don’t know what to believe anymore WJ out here talking about uh the Lakers might give JJ his first formal interview that was a little hate that was a little hate sham said weeks ago that they’ve already no that was a little hate he didn’t have to put that in there he didn’t have to put that what if it’s true still sound like you’re hating but it’s not hate if he’s reporting that’s the part that’s confusing what the hell is real well then he said first formal interview like C CA to me so what they do just talk to JJ on the phone like hey bro what you think about the Lakers oh I’m down cool what holl at this time you meet at Lakers HQ instead of Starbucks or something I don’t know like what possibly possibly but it it’s it’s to me comes off said uh as to undermine what what Shams was reporting it might have but if he’s telling the truth is it still undermining well they’re not teammates so he can do whatever he wants to do so they’re actually Rivals but but we were there we were there we witnessed it sham said they had been talking can’t can’t can’t take that away by saying formal no they’ve been talking D they’ve been talking we were there wge I’m not I can’t let wge off the hook for the way he he he reported those today the 10 okay uh the New York time oh this is the this is the athletic this is your boy right I get the New York Times things throw throws me off every time but the New York Times and the athletic are now one and the same May 21st 2024 the Lakers have held formal meetings with JJ reick uh James BGA and Sam Cassell now begs the question is a formal meeting the same as a formal interview like what are we doing this is ridiculous this is shoot ridiculous this was May 21st this was weeks ago I’m told the bron James is not involved in the Lakers head coaching shirts there’s like a hundred of those tweets this is just amazing JJ reck La met for extended interview that was reported on May 24th what are we doing that’s what I’m saying it’s a little shade like w we were there we we know going on but see that’s the thing it’s now like at this point either everyone else is wrong or W is either lying or misinformed yeah I think he’s misinformed and he can’t possibly or or I should say misinformed I take that back his sources are not Shams and those other people’s sources so he not going to he’s not going to he’s not gonna go with those sources and just kind back off what they’re report is the same person feeding Jay is the same person feeding Shams all of this JJ information because I same same person feeding them both you mean the the extended no no I’m I’m saying is the same person because Shams is the one who reported uh JJ had the interview Shams is the one who reported on the Pat McAfee show that they met for an extended period of time is this all the same person within the Lakers organization feeding Shams the JJ information because he’s also the one who had the front runner tweet I don’t know if it’s in the Lakers organization that’s the whole thing I think W is talking to the Lakers organization I’m not sure if Shams is I feel like Shams is either talking to people directly involved and obviously you can work around talking or he’s talking to agents what what were you going to say I already forgot my point that’s fine no it’s good you’re saying hey why don’t you get to the Celtics being up 20 jackass how about that no I remember wasn’t Ro’s Source just um Dan Hurley like wasn’t talking no no absolutely not absolutely not okay because um I saw like he said they did an interview or whatever they’d spoken to Dan Hurley and Dan Hurley said he was going to make his decision on Monday so I thought we just probably just talking to him well no no that was after it became public gotcha that was after it was like out that’s like Dan Hurley started addressing this publicly um we’ll come back um Ley hang tight uh I think TC is there too uh hang tight there’s much more headed see when KC brought to you by Sky River Casino here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 chirania added that reick was the first candidate to have a face-to-face meeting with the Lakers brass and he gets the sense that reck is the front runner for the position gets the he gets the sense that’s not the same thing as he reported if you know a week or so ago or whatever again that was May 24th that’s what he said on the pat ma show [Music] uh securing the monk uh no we’re not doing any weekend live show uh what do you mean sorry I I I think I read this as something that it might not be are you asking if DLo and KC are doing a weekend live show like like we do at Sky river is that is that what you mean because my guess is no because we don’t have we don’t have a show on the weekends an event yeah events are possible but uh like an actual live show it’s probably not yeah like a get together uh like how do Mo did on the weekend [Music] um yeah like we we might we we we could do we might do like watch parties you know meetups things like that but it wouldn’t be a live show like our our as much as I you know shout out to do some more we’re still a radio show like we we still have a a responsibility to people on you know am and HD and all of that stuff and more importantly we have a responsibility to Matthews mattress and West Coast audio and Sky River Casino so what did uh what did what it do some more do I I missed I’m not I I I don’t know I I I sent I like M and went moted I got the impression they were out of town so I’m I’m not sure what they did um unless he’s talking about like a show from you know a minute ago yeah Sky river is definitely about to blow up it is definitely about to blow up that’ll be that’ll be the biggest that’ll be the biggest Meetup in the history of chatty house meetups when that joint open up sounds like Dave is on something what’s Dave talking about do oh Dave Garcia oh Dave Garcia sit down sound like Kenny what did they what what Dave oh yeah that’s that that’s I mean if we need more room for the sky River Meetup we’ll will then ask Damian say hey can we can we do it at your I don’t have a pool Scout that’s the sad part just hot grass yeah how come there isn’t a deal on Casey Cruz it’s going up because we’re we’re in our 40s Manny that’s why um John PA say I I don’t I don’t know I don’t want to misspeak okay yep all right man let’s get to these phone lines before we start cutting up here a little bit 91699 132 start with our man TC TC what’s good baby yes sir what’s up with my two brothers we good man what’s going on with you bro oh man you know just tapping in with the homies man had a good weekend man you know just checking in yes sir no for sure for sure hey so look hey that’s what I was trying to say about LeBron man I know I know his talent is something totally separate but like I don’t want to say use I don’t want to use Shenanigans again right sorry about that y’all I’m saying you getting out the car what’s going you didn’t put your seat belt on what’s going on yeah no I’m low on fuel I gotta get to the gas station oh oh hry up yeah yeah yeah no no don’t even worry about it hey look I run out of gas dowlo I’m G need you to come get me bro this [ __ ] he got you he got he can send it over there he just send it over stop it K hey no but but look LeBron though bro like seriously though LeBron like I don’t know if that was Dan Hurley said you know what man I really don’t want to deal with LeBron like that man if he if he’s hands on like that then y’all can probably count me out is that gonna be like a problem I know he probably only got a couple more years though bro but like say like that that’s turning coaches away with with LeBron his talent is something totally different than him as an individual and what he be doing with like his say so that’s like to me I really don’t like that bro all right see I’m a little I’m a I I understand I understand that aspect of it I’m a little like um like what what do people want what do you want do you want to if you’re Dan Hurley do you wanna go to the Hornets and have no players and probably be fired in three years or do you want to play with or coach excuse me one of the great players that has ever played who yes the expectations are to win a championship um every year but they’re not like unfounded or unrealistic because of him yeah like you’re in that conversation because of him so I and and when you say no I’d rather coach the Celtics or the Thunder well there there jobs aren’t available available because the coaches are doing just fine do the Lakers offer enough do you guys think was six years 70 right yeah it was six years 70 um it’s a little over 11 per they are they to be fair I think they offered more than enough they blew up the first year head coaching market like you know he he he would have been the highest paid coach to not win a championship I think comfortably he would have been the highest paid coach to not to not even get to an NBA final I know he’s a new to not even coach an NBA game like like he he would have been the only one in that category he would have been surrounded by you know Spas uh and and guys with rings as long as you acknowledge the one outlier and Monty Williams and the one outlier got to a finals turned a a nemic franchise around and even the year they didn’t get to the finals won like 64 games he’s also a like a he’s he’s been in like he coached Kevin Durant like he’s been in you know these he he coached three MVPs as a matter of fact back like he’s been in the league as an assistant or otherwise for a very long time now um so you know it was a desperate Detroit Pistons team we don’t need to act like Monty Williams was trash Monty Williams is a damn good coach in my opinion it’s just that contract looks it only looks weird when you look at who’s around it um and yeah he would have been in that he he Dan Hurley would have been in that conversation um let’s get Ley in here 91690 91320 Ley what’s happening baby yo donon KC what’s good guys leus what UPL that boy was working over the weekend man shout out to you man that’s all he do he gonna be out with us this weekend too come on man come on yes sir we stay working we about it hey um I I just wanted to ask you guys a quick question about the NBA Finals not trying to derail it from the Lakers but um I had a question a few weeks ago I asked like what players Legacy would be most impacted by these finals and we all kind of agreed it was Tatum if he was to lose you know because of his high expectations now that we’re here and Boston’s kind of winning do you think that’s shifted to Kyrie because you know he’s known as one of the best players in the world but he’s getting clamped up right now the Mavericks need him and do you think this could be a hit on his career if they were to lose the series man that’s a good question lazyy absolutely it’s absolutely not a hit on his career and you you tell me what you think because we talked a little bit about this yesterday but it Luca’s been phenomenal there’s there’s no question about that debating that at least in my opinion like luk he been he’s been good Lucas LCA he’s been good I phenomenal is a little strong he’s been good I think he’s been I think he’s has been some of the worst defense I’ve ever seen in my life for sure but how is that different than Luca always well that’s you’re right that’s I don’t we’re grading on a curve when we talk about what Luca donic does we’re essentially talking about one side of the floor true but to that point real quick though we’re on a we’re on a higher stage so like what you do on the regular season isn’t magnified the way it is in the in the NBA Finals we expect you to do more or do better be be a little more locked in on both sides of the floor in the NBA finals and he’s done more of the same he hasn’t elevated well you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment if that’s what you’re expecting from Luca donic but on the Kyrie front and you you you tell me if my assessment of these first two games is wrong either of you tell me if my it feels like they’re going to make Luca work on both ends of the floor but they’re going to make Luca work but it feels like the Celtics made the decision we’re gonna make Kyrie miserable we’re going to do everything we there’s not going to be a he’s hot this half he’s hot this half no we’re going to make Kyrie work for every single thing that he gets and and I’m I’m sure he has one but you remember we used to hear about like the the the Buddy heeled like mild track like he would just he would be all over the floor he’d be moving all of the time like I feel like Kyrie is busting his ass like he is chasing rebounds down like he is trying to do anything and hopes that it gets himself going offensively in this at at the same exact time he’s being run all over the floor by the Boston Celtics defense and what we’ve seen from Kyrie so far these two games in the finals is more about what Boston is doing and less to me it’s more about what Boston is doing and less about what Kyrie isn’t doing yeah I mean that’s a good call I think they probably look at Kyrie the way that we’ve talked about um a lot is like that’s the that’s the straw that stirs the drink we had the qu a question asked to us on Sports Sunday about who are the best players on each team to me it’s clearly Tatum and be foolish to say Luca isn’t the best player you know what I mean but Luca is going to do whatever he does on the offensive end he’s going to get his 30 he’s going to have 8 to 11 of assists 8 to 11 rebounds or whatever the case may be and there’s not much that you can do to stop that and Luca’s gonna do that in a win or a loss like I don’t want to I’m not trying to make the the argument it has no effect on the the on winning or winning or losing but he’s just gonna do that regardless Kyrie is the one that elevates that team in my opinion elevates that team to another level and Boston to your point is probably looking at we can’t number one we can’t stop BCA he’s gonna do what he wants to do on the offensive end but that’s also not necessarily the key to winning and losing against the Dallas Mavericks key to winning and losing is making sure Kyrie doesn’t have 28 you know what I mean and if we can do everything that we can to work against that and and hope that he doesn’t get that that’s going to be our key to success he’s Kyrie Irving there may be a time when he’s just he’s hitting everything he’s hitting left-handed floaters from 19 feet out and and you can’t stop that but we’ve got to make him work we have to make him work on on the offensive end yeah and you have that strategy doesn’t look off when you realize you’ve got 30 from Luca in each game and Kyrie can’t get going and you’ve walked away with two victories if you’re the Boston Celtics uh this all right man wait what Jonathan from Connecticut wants to talk oh okay Jonathan from Connecticut we gotta listen to welcome to the show Jonathan from Connecticut has to say sh think from Connecticut is living large today Danny Hurley turning down the Kentucky job and the Laker job all within a cycle for who else for the Ukon Huskies o n n n Yukon Yukon Yukon I don’t care what any Laker fan says today you are not good enough for the best college basketball player in the division one ranks right now and it is a great day for the Nutmeg State Jon well the what well that’s sir come up with a new nickname you could have just said for huskys nation or something like that that was that was wild but Jonathan I’m just curious are you going to be around any Laker fans today like at at work or anything else like that do you have any Laker fans numbers where you might text them and tell them what you just said oh 100% I know a couple of them that work over at CBS 13 that I might wow what what a coincidence Jonathan from Connecticut I might work in the media field guys I I don’t know what you know oh TR as the chat is pointing out didn’t you go to ASU okay okay okay settle down no I’m just trying to get to the bottom of this like who’s the ASU Basketball coach like like why aren’t youing them it’s a family affair it’s a family affair you don’t understand guys Bobby Hurley I’m like all in on the Hur I’m saying it’s a family affair it’s a family I was ready if if if Dan was leaving for the Lakers I was gonna call up Bobby senior and say like come on man let’s go from the high school ranks to the college ranks we’re ready to roll all right Jonathan and for those who don’t know this is this is J but we’ll stay with Jonathan uh in in Connecticut um how worried would you were you that that this was gonna not work out for Yukon in the netm state I was actually I was texting James ham over the weekend and I was like hey dude like what what are the numbers you’re thinking and the numbers that we were tossing around of course were a fiveyear deal close to 12 and a half M which is basically what he was what he got offered by the Lakers and I’m like that’s hard to turn down the best thing that you can Yukon could probably offer is something north of eight and a half maybe nine if they pushed it but they just you know it’s it’s it’s a public salary in the state of Connecticut so he’s technically the highest paid state employee in the state and I just don’t know how much more money you could have possibly thrown at him unless it’s nil money so MoneyWise I was worried but I also knew that the hurleys love history they love the basketball history the chance to go for three is is is something that just doesn’t come around every single day and to pass that up pass up that Alex caraban one of the best college basketball prospects was coming back to Yukon this next year going to be star of the program they have all these top four and five star recruits that they’re reloaded for for another three feat guys and I think that’s what Hurley wants he wants history I also think and I you know this is me being an East Coast guy on the west coast you know it’s just hard sometimes adapting to a West Coast style like I think that if we’re talking about the Celtics job or the Knicks job I think we’d be having a much different conversation the Lakers job it’s incredible it’s the one of the top three in or top five really in the NBA but but I just being on a different Coast from your whole entire family uh moving everyone out there the expectations and knowing that truly you’re you’re not going to you know being an NBA coach is much different than being a college coach you are you’re not call you’re calling out the plays but you know at the end of the day it’s a players driven league and college basketball it’s a lot of coaching personalities and coaching that that brings these guys to the NBA ranks so I think it came down to that I think it came down to a legacy and I think that you know in a couple years if he does want to make the jump to the NBA there’s going to be plenty of opportunities to do that and it’s just a sad day for the Lakers because they made this huge push for them push for him and and JJ reick is now gonna be their head coach a sad day for who a a sad day for for for anybody being I’m just still stuck on I was texting James ham for this info I’m about to say I mean like you you think to text o Dow and KC huh fact D and KC don’t break news we’re no news reporters here because we don’t tweet it because we use it for our radio show no but tell me tell me tell me more about how you and James ham were texting each other to work out these these contract details I was I was intrigued fam okay because he he’s my numbers guy okay and he has he does it on your show too all the time okay he’s your numbers Guru so you do listen to show guys I listen to the show every day I am your number one fan okay I will tell you that biggest supporter of Deo and casc where where are you what Co what Co are you on did you pick Dan Hurley up at the airport are you like in Croatia somewhere where are you jumping off a yacht I’m 35 minutes away from stores right now guys I’m I’m hopping on a flight this afternoon coming back to our good old 916 so you’re in um I’m in no no I thank you what is that town called where the airport is it’s not Hartford what is it wi wils what is it called no windsor loock Windsor loock that’s what it is that’s where the that’s where the Connecticut airport is Windsor loock Connecticut airport is it bigger than uh sack International yeah I think it is I think it’s I would say it’s about the same size it’s probably the same size yeah it’s probably the same size and that’s that one Hartford doesn’t have a no that that’s that’s the same one wislock Harper Windsor Lock’s what thir 30 minutes from downtown Harford maybe a little less than that not even if you’re if you’re getting off the highway it’s maybe 15 minutes off if you hit traffic it’s more like 2530 but you’re you’re on it it’s if you’re looking at towards the the worldwide leader of ESPN it’s around 25 minutes from Bristol it’s about 35 minutes from from from stores it’s it’s just north of the the capital hardford and Springfield are you planning to stop by uh stop through Bridgeport at all that’s not not no no no I would not New Haven hey slide slide through the Bridgeport real quick man no don’t do that no don’t do that Jonathan we want you back here don’t do that do you know what’s going on in Bridgeport Connecticut it’s a it’s a very fine City you know if I was going Kenny if I was going through Greenwich Connecticut it’ be a different story you’re right there I think I think I think Jake will be just fine and BR I heard the original Hunter Hurst Helmsley character was based off Jake gadon that’s what get out of here I can see that that’s what I heard that’s what I heard the Aristocrat the little the little snobby get away that was that was that was based off Jake G and and Jake that that’s where my family is in Bridgeport so yeah I know I know I know what’s going on in Bridgeport well you know what I got to do though is I got to take both of you because I was texting with dming Damian and I back and forth I think it was Friday Dam I gotta BR everybody but good old KC oh Kenny I talk to you all the time stop it okay I’m it took me a second I was like I was like who’s he talking about we did we were talking about pizza I want to make sure I got to bring you guys if we’re ever on the East Coast I gotta bring you to the pizza capital of the world ppp’s Pizza in New Haven it will literally melt in your mouth okay I swear to you okay I wish we could oh you can’t say things like that on this type of show Jake get on the plane I’m sorry Jonathan uh get on the plane get back to Sacramento safely I’m I’m GL I love hearing the joy in your voice may maybe you come in later this week and we hang out and spend pull up on us man give give give Dame one more chant give him one more Yukon chant no don’t you don’t need to do that c o n n Yukon Yukon Yukon see you guys Friday have a great week no it’s good like he I you notice like he’s out in Connecticut the week like Gino gets an extension Dan Hurley turns down the Lakers he might be the closer he might be might be the closer we’re gon have to start throwing flags on our guest by the way this isic way get away with this kind of now non I don’t know why I don’t know how he doesn’t know this show well enough to know you can’t talk like that he could have just said it’s really good yeah and he’s right it is phenomenal and I was ready to co-sign the Pepe thing until he used his stupid analogy that was crazy all I think about was 50 Cent when he said that too when 50 said that your hands that take you to the candy [ __ ] he wasn’t talking about Cy I I’ve I saw on Diners Drive-Ins and Dives drive-throughs and okay it’s one of those three words you got it it’s one of those three iterations he he went to the I think he went to New Haven for the pizza and they were talking about they got the best pizza and all this other stuff it look good it look good it’s incredible yeah yeah there there’s there’s Pepe and I feel like there’s one other so there’s like that’s the New Haven versus New York thing like they’re I guess they’re different um New York looks like the best uh Pizza New York and New Haven are they’re I don’t know someone explained this to us once what the difference is there is a slight difference I guess to it I don’t know that New Haven piece is really good oh I know so there’s Pepe and then there was a spot we used to go to I think it was called raay raay New Haven pizza fire like looks it looks yeah it’s incredible fantastic like of the way the thing that I miss like I miss real pizza that’s like the because like you know what it is when you’re eating pizza like it’s greasy it’s like cheesy every like like that’s I mean you can’t do that with plant-based Pizza like there’s like no this is a very well put together piece of pizza like that’s it’s not the same thing I miss I miss real Pizza I and when I saw Jake’s when I saw Jake’s uh story I was like oh man I’ve been there and that’s Fire have to make a move matter of fact next time maybe when you’re in New York you go get a pizza you can get it the Aki way what’s that what’s that mean get it the Aki way you gotta go to that uh Bodega and they make anything anything you want the a way take a pizza it’ll hook you up it’s disgusting but no why would I do that for the content yeah just say you did it I guess it’s a New York thing you know how they are can’t what he say can’t forget the Bev never never never where are you guys where is this I’m I’m definitely going to get something the Aki way where is this from like why why is this such a thing the uh all the all the well not all the cele but anybody a lot of people that either from New York or go to New York Like Rappers and stuff like that they go do their little video where they go get their sandwich to akway yeah if you took like a pizza there he’d put like one slice of pepperoni on top one slice of pepper on the bottom and there’s like mozzarella sticks in between I’m telling it’s disgusting you could put Fritos in there can’t forget the Fritos then you get like uh like a gummy worms they put some gummy worms on there he say sure this doesn’t sound appealing like he doesn’t it gets views though it does it’s provocative we got we gotta go we gotta go get a sandwich the Aki way all right can’t forget the Bev never never never it’s I’m just I’m just so happy you two are amused by this everybody everybody on the East Coast go goes there is in it’s in New York yeah I don’t know where in New York probably in the I was thinking I need to go back he’s come out to LA a couple times it’s a popup La he has before look how excited if he comes to La I’m g go I’m telling you I’m go get doy I don’t know what I’m gonna get on it though it’s a good question I need to get to La next Wednesday complex kind of mentioned that last week he Yeah well yeah I was I was just gonna say some of the people that going to be there is good luck it’s good luck that’s what at least that’s you mean like the pot the The Potters no no the that has the artist been announced no I don’t think it’s going to be oh but or is it just what they were speculating on complex knows who’s gonna be there I don’t know comple didn’t tell me he sat next to me for 20 minutes and didn’t say about it well no he found out later that night when I was with oh you sitting there eating ice cream together Burger patch ain’t mention a thing I was I I almost we was out so late I almost went to District 30 you should have pulled up it was it was like 11: when we parted ways I was like I should just go like I’m already here you kind of you know the way it is but sometimes DLo and Casey means dowlo or Casey and when Casey said I’m I’m gonna go to District thir it’s like cool I’ll go to the art show I’ll see y’all on Sunday should have pulled up we were you know we could tucked away somewhere where I could just kind of people watch and do whatever it was hilarious it wasn’t people watching you was you was hyping the crowd up yeah got on shout out yeah yeah that’s 705 J Street shout out DJ Oasis shout out niiko Suave you know on the mic shout out to my man over there king of Sacramento he said the red carpet is always laid out when we pull up man shout out D30 it’s good times shout out Kay for real for real and I want to be a ra when I grow up K he made you want to be a rapper well yeah get the Superstar treatment put him in the booth get on the mic for about five minutes minutes recite some of your songs boom duffel bag handed to you DDP wow DDP when the world heavyweight title like 45 you can do it that’s true you could do it if Diamond Dallas Paige can do it Kenny carway can still got yours I might have to you did a year of Drake bars I mean we can’t bring that back but I mean we might Drake ain’t going nowhere might bring it back it’s nothing he ain’t going nowhere dude can someone tell I got to dress normal at his kid soccer game by the way that’s his that’s his bag the whole baggy like dress like Michael Jordan thing that’s his thing right now I like I love my favorite part was the extra slim shirt and the old school braided belt with the with the drop down I like the sweater over the I did like that I thought that was hot I didn’t oh I didn’t hate the outfit as much as everybody did but I just looked at the pants and I thought that’s like a Tyrese I guess that’s the I guess that’s the new I mean that’s what they they all come with the big the big pants I mean I have baggy pants on this weekend but they wasn’t like that they Drake was doing his thing I guess at uh adonis’s soccer game that’s what that’s what Essentials does they just make that stuff so like over everything is oversized oh a says uh akis is Brooklyn so you like going to Brooklyn you go to Brooklyn I love Brooklyn there Brooklyn in the house I sandwich the Aki way you can’t forget the Bev goad say what was I got the I don’t remember never never never come on all right we’re going to practice again now where is so help me this is a show or this is just like the guy own bod yeah I catch these on YouTube shorts though like the videos and stuff I follow him on Instagram but yeah he he owns a Boda and somehow you just start videotaping the way he puts these sandwiches together video like a camcorder like Shaq at the Slam Dunk allar game like like Shaq with the camcorder all right we’ll come back um we’ll dive a little bit further into these uh NBA Finals as well get back to these phone lines if you want to hop in we’d love to hear from you 91699 1320 it’s Ste KC brought to you by Sky River Casino here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 Cup finals game too tonight let’s go um who’s playing Panthers Anders let’s go Panthers no I went to Oilers to win you know why because I heard a Canadian team has not won the Stanley Cup in 30 years let’s make it 31 it’s Bret Hart’s fault well we don’t need to make it um 31 for Florida if it was New York or Chicago I guess I mean that makes more sense for the Florida that’d be so disrespectful if the Florida Panthers are out here winning uh Stanley Cup no because like the same thing like the San Jose Sharks want it true but I like the Bay Area I’m biased sharks probably have the best jerseys in all sports or at least their top five I don’t even know if they’re top 10 so whoa whoa whoa whoa the Throwbacks are clean the regulars are clean they’re top five at least off the top my head the ners we really I don’t you know if they got top five in California oh oh stop they’re better than the Warriors they’re better than the Clippers jerseys I’ll take them over the Lakers oh no man Lakers got cash a I was about to say the Raiders too but the Raiders aren’t in California no more um I like the A’s colors I like the A and Giants Dodgers is Iconic Clan they’re better than the Angels yeah Angels don’t even count as a California team to be honest rather keep the Raiders than the angels are they better than they might they’re better than the Chargers they’re better than the Chargers yeah facts Matthew tchuk and Jason Tatum went to the um same High School D play for the Panthers okay n i mean the Sharks is it’s it’s fire don’t get it twisted don’t get it twisted it’s fire I ain’t got saying nothing bad about the about the Sharks we really hype up the Raiders jersey like it’s not just a black jersey with some silver letters on it one is fire the white one the white the white Raiders jersey is fire the black one is it’s whatever it’s black so the Raiders jerseys are equivalent to what the Celtics are they just stayed the same forever Celtics that’s what I was going to mention too the Celtics Jersey kind of fire the black ones they won last night were dope the originals are fire my favorite one is the green one I think that’s I think that’s part of the issue though like when we have this conversation the ners the Lakers Celtics Steelers even the Dodgers maybe they’re more iconic than great May that’s the the case those are iconic Jersey I think the Giants fall in that category as well my f John P I mean to offend the Raiders the black ones aren’t the black ones aren’t great the white ones are better black ones are cool though all right gy settle down the the Bucks the Bucks yeah those old world league uniforms you guys had for about uh three years luckily you went back to some better ones but stop it buy stop it who’s got the worst uniforms in sports uh the Jazz the Jazz changed their uniforms again see but they fixed them now now they’re cool because it’s just the Throwbacks basically if they want to fix them they should go back to the early 90s joints like they want fix them moving to Seattle they Utah about to come up Utah about to get uh hockey and then they uh they about to get um they trying to get baseball Paul that never happen there’s too much money to be made dolphins are PR are we on no it’s a long break I guess how come it it it the the it it shows it stopped on mine are we for real not on oh okay I’m just I’m just looking at yeah maybe it’s stuck I’m just looking at the uh I’m just looking at the board and the board the my my uh screen isn’t moving oh that’s weird okay so all right all right well well we’re live pal uh D and KC um shout out 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mean to be honest I think I like all of those names more than Sasha was think off I don’t really know what to do with the Sasha stuff obviously we’ll talk about it we’ll talk about it right now uh James ham will be with us in the final hour of the show there there was conflicting reports that all kind of lead to the same thing so it doesn’t really matter um there was a report that said uh Sasha will not return to the Sacramento Kings the Kings told him hey you’re not in our plans uh we’ll try to figure something out for you then there was another report that said Sasha told the Kings it was like one of those no they didn’t break up with me I broke up with them type of things and then he’d like to resume his NBA career and maybe there’s a trade out there for him I don’t know man Sasha played 42 games last year he was injured for a chunk of them he has I think I think I it was difficult to figure out what was injuries and what was dnps I think I was able to navigate through it and it looked like he missed about 30 Games due to injury um but it feels like it really dragged there at the end where maybe he could have come back and because of the position that the kings were in they just kind of resigned to the fact to no maybe that’s not the best to try to bring him back and work him like we we we’ve got to try to establish something here of course then Malik goes out Kevin hder goes out your depth completely changes there um but no matter what what you think about Sasha Sasha’s impact this season I don’t think it worked I don’t and and and it certainly didn’t work the way anyone on the radio thought that it might as the Kings get eliminated and this this brother still playing in Euro league and and it’s like oh man what if he’s starting like it just got like worse and worse as the season went along as the uh the Euroleague playoffs went along and along and along like thoughts on what Sasha could be just got worse and worse and then training camp comes around and Mike’s like yeah I don’t really know if Sasha’s gonna play all right man and it felt like it never really felt like it never really gained any traction part of me feels like I and this is just me on the complete outside looking in I’m not at the practices I don’t know the inner workings of that team so it’s it’s really unfair for me to kind of say what I’m about to say but I got a job to do I’m going talk about it it feels like Mike didn’t give it a chance Feels Like Mike Brown um man what did Mike Brown do to you he did nothing you really don’t like Mike Brown I don’t don’t say you feel like you feel about Mike Brown the way Cheryl feels about Luke absolutely not I love Mike Brown can’t wait till that Courtside Kenny tweet comes in with idiot you’re never gonna see that when it comes to Mike Brown because I love Mike Brown well you also don’t talk like that I think he’s a he’s a a heck of a coach but I do I I do have a fundamental disagreement with the way that he went about last season and I just think this whole notion of what we did last year wasn’t good enough to win in the playoffs and we need to be more defensive focused and all this other stuff and that needs to be improved and we I don’t want to I don’t know if he said this or not so I don’t want to say this is what he said but the idea that you know if we take a step back on offense but we get better on on defense we’ll be more prepared I just think that’s that was flawed at every turn with all right with the people that he would play the people that um that his approach I mean we talk about we talk about javel who we think that was a Mike Brown guy Chris dwarte who we think that was a Mike Brown guy that he tried to force into the starting lineup at the or into the rotation at the the season he he you were right the first time too yeah I mean I just trying to be fair back training camp no he did and and and how um if Chris gorte hadn’t got hurt there’s no telling how the first place of the the first part of the Season would have played out his approach to Hur her and now looking at Sasha and I can’t believe they tried to get him here to Sacramento and and Mike was like yeah get him over here I’m going to not play him like come on he talked to Sasha Sasha get over here there are going to be a bunch of dmps in your future over here but come over here like no I think he was probably told that you know maybe not promised but told like hey we we see you in in in our future and his lack of defense or whatever maybe didn’t line up with what Mike Brown was trying to do and he didn’t he didn’t get a a fair shot I think and I think all of that messed with this team this year I think they lost their identity how how do you guys think they got this so wrong because like he has a guaranteed money coming up this year so obviously they expected him to be around for a couple years at least and that was just a matter of like yeah like it’s over now like they had plans for the guy I’m sure yeah that’s a good question and I have a little bit of an issue with what you just said uh but let’s get to Kamar first because he charges by the hour 91699 1320 Kamar what’s up man uh couple things first of all I totally agree with Kenny I think it was just weird how they were chasing this guy across the globe just a dming for like 60% of the year it like it looks like they had no vision for the roster or for him or how he was going to be incorporated I don’t know if like it’s one of those things where you you get the person or you get the girl and you start dating her and you’re like I really don’t like her I don’t know what it was it’s just kind of weird but at this the whole thing just odd the way Mike handled the entire situation but um listen I was calling the the RAS Kenny a little bit man Kenny stre saying you duck and smoke Kenny I never duck smoke they say you duck and smoke they say you were you were at the fome you know uh pickup game you heard Steph coming in there and they said you jumped in your chest and ran home that’s I heard I don’t know absolutely absolutely not F first and foremost I think that was that like style Fitness or whatever which is Lifetime Fitness which is that’s Kamar that’s you’re and Damian’s pay grade to have a membership there not me I’m more of a 24-hour fitness if I’m really being um you know putting my money out there I’m more of an in shaped Fitness that that Lifetime Fitness that’s that DLo Kamar money to have a membership there this guy this guy got a $100,000 machine in his backyard that’s true that’s facts we looked it up all fact what are we talking about see how people believe the things that you guys say you opened this show saying my jet was on the internet what are you talking about does have a PJ if any one of us has a jet it’s the dude on the phone well that’s a fact oh man I’m just messing with y’all man but no I’m in agreement with y’all back to the Sasha thing and I don’t know what was going on there and um I’m intrigued to hear what James has to say about it because the whole thing was just kind of you know yeah so let’s let’s let’s talk about that Lifetime Fitness man a’t no joke that’s what I’m saying I thought I thought it was one of them you know Planet Fitness 9.99 no no no hell no that is not what that is no wonder Steph Curry was out there that ain’t my money Lord that was that was one of the I got a I got a gym in my garage that’s less expensive than this we we definitely gotta um we definitely gotta like break down everything that we’re talking about right now but I just want to say that was one of the coolest things that’s why that’s why I love basketball I love the NBA that was so dope to see him playing basketball at a at a it wasn’t a just a random gym like can’t everybody get in there but uh that was dope Steph Curry was up here running fives with everybody that was dope to see man yeah no I’m telling you bro tell are you guys right this is a members membership yeah like hey like lifetime can we get an endorsement no wonder it’s in fome your ass ain’t getting in lifetime lifetime is the I I already know what time it is because lifetime is the company that um what’s old boy’s name ah the trainer that’s that’s where all them Pros go in New York to Lifetime Fitness you ever seen that where they’re like Aon no they they go to they go to a gym Lifetime Fitness but like when melo’s working out and yeah isn’t that a Don isn’t that uhar uh Carmela’s trainer it’s uh he might be one of them but the the other one is like dude’s in 2K I forgot his name yeah Brinkley Brinkley he’s he he does a lot of the the training out of there too but when I saw that where they were all at a Lifetime Fitness and they’re like oh they got one in in F I was like oh okay well Kyle Draper in the background Mark Jones somewhere nearby like yeah take me a lifetime to pay off that membership uh salute to Steph yeah that’s pretty that’s pretty dope um so when you you and Kamar were both kind of pontificating how you guys hate defense not true um I don’t have as big of a issue I don’t think I have as big of an issue as Mike with Mike you know taking the approach of like hey we’ve got to work on this side of the floor we’ve got get better on this side of the floor meaning the defensive side of the floor um I think maybe given the fact there was the lack of [Music] um the lack of roster changes maybe gave Mike an unrealistic sense about what he could potentially do uh and the fact that he leaned on you know this is hindsight I’m not trying to be critical of Mike with this statement this is hindsight knowing what he know we know now but he leaned on the wrong guy to start this movement and it was Chris DTE which is what really draws us back to the conclusion sometimes we say you know things you know tongue and Chic and joking but and there is a certain level of joke to this but like this is this is where we form the theory that Mike doesn’t like Kevin hder on this team and he felt like there wasn’t and and as much as people bring up Harrison barnes’s name and as much as they say replace Harrison Barnes in the starting lineup with Tre L try this try that like Mike clearly from what we saw this year never had that thought but he did with Kevin he just went to Chris duerte first and not Keon Ellis what would have looked like had he gone to Keon Ellis first hell what would have looked like if Chris DTE hadn’t gotten injured you know because M oh I was going back to Kevin everybody knew meanwhile Kevin damn near in tears at the locker like yeah I don’t know I just got to do what coaches asked me to do like he he made this thing like oh it was no big deal meanwhile Kevin looked like someone stole his puppy like they those two either didn’t communicate very well or Mike was trying to cushion what looked like just a bad everything like the Optics of that whole thing were bad but the gist of what Mike was trying to do I didn’t hate like you have something and I think Mike’s thinking let’s build on that let’s take what we have and build on it the roster didn’t really allow the build the roster was okay we could do that but it’s gonna cost you like we’re going to lose something over here to be able to do something over here and for a while that’s what we saw and we questioned at the start of the Season like what happened to the king’s offense where’s the king’s offense oh yeah they’re like marginally better defensively and they really didn’t get measurably better defensively until Keon Ellis started regularly playing um but it just was a series of ideas that’s to me it’s it was a series of ideas that sound really good in like an offseason meeting but don’t necessarily work in execution yeah and I I think I think the the the thought of it may take away from this a little bit for us to to get better I just never agreed with that thought like no we need to get better but it can’t take away from what we’re doing well no and I’m not insinuating that it should I’m saying that wound up being the end result yeah but no I I’m not saying anything like about what you may be saying but that was like the that was the thought around what Mike Brown was preaching or like what what people would say you know we’ll talk to James James would say the same thing like it wasn’t what M was preaching well and that’s a that’s a whole another Dynamic I don’t remember when in the season it was he said that it was around was it the trade deadline trade deadline yeah cuz I’m trying to figure out where would M have talk that would have had to have been it yeah it was around that time and that’s the same thing that I’m thinking as as we talk about all this is I I don’t know if they’re necessarily on the same page I think they it feels like they give some type of give and take to each other like Monty like Sasha seems like a mani guy right and Mike Brown sure might have looked at Sasha like I need some guys that can play defense this side this guy ain’t he ain’t doing that but you know what money I’ll give you one I give you go ahead do what you got to do I’ll give you one and then he he said you I gave you Sasha now you need to go get me Chris dorte you know what I mean it feels like they they like work together that way with these two different type of players that they give Grace to a lot of times and they don’t nobody really like gets in the way of the other that’s that’s how they work together but I don’t know if they’re on the same page with their idea of of how to build this team necessarily I think Monty and I’m just I’m going off some of the guys that he got and also looking at his time in Houston which may not be fair because he wasn’t in complete control but score points shoot shoot the three ball and you know be Scrappy on the other end but if you’re not this unbelievable Defender that’s not going to keep me from drafting you or signing you or anything else like that and I feel like Mike Brown feels like he’s he is at least going into the last year he’s done with the can’t play defense guys like you can’t be here if you’re not g to defend at all but that’s the thing with sorry Jesse go ahead I isn’t that kind of an issue though it might be yeah like they’re just not not saying they’re not on the same page but if just not not completely you know well it’s Al an issue like Mike can’t be done with anybody like bro you if to steal your old line from a couple season if you’ve got a superpower you need to utilize it and if this individual helps you more on the offensive end whoever that individual may be guess what you’re going to be a prolific offensive team there is nothing good about the way the Indiana Pacers play defense at all but they dictated what they did on the offensive end and you know whether their appearance in the Conference Finals was Fool’s Gold or not they were in the Conference Finals and they couldn’t play defense for nothing now it caught up to them at that point but that’s the Conference Finals there’s four teams left and yeah Mike Mike need to shake that a little bit because I’m sure Rick doesn’t love the idea of like I’m sure Rick Carlile loves the idea of winning a game but like in his coaches meeting moment he’s not gonna want to win 140 to 137 like he’s going to be he’s gonna take the win and I’m talking more during the regular season than a playoff series he’s going to take the win but he’s going to be frustrated in the film session the next day he spoke about it during the season I remember vividly when he was talking about like we got to decide whether we’re gonna play defense or whatever and and they decided against it this what we gonna do but the the the the reason why I had such a problem with that uh with that talk around this team it’s not because the the logic behind it or the idea behind it wasn’t accurate like yes you have to be able to defend to move on in the playoffs or whatever it’s because I I keep saying that wasn’t why they lost in the playoffs I thought Mike and that coach staff had essentially prepared that group that they people looked at they don’t play defense it prepared them to be tough enough and to compete at a high enough high enough level by the time the playoffs came around that they were adequate and they were fine with their defensive effort and how they approached the game where is Kevin herder this great defense talking about the first year yeah the first yeah yeah I’m with you by the time they got to the playoffs I keep bringing it up they were the ones that the other team was sending a a memo to the league office about about their being too physical JJ reck they’re cheating this is not the league wants Sacramento to win that’s the next Lakers head coach right there they were the ones the kings were the ones that had had brought that type of intensity I give credit to Mike Jordy and that coaching staff Doug chrisy all those guys that have prepared those guys to play at that level on that stage you I I felt you should have trust trusted those guys to come into the next year and and say all right you guys know what it takes build on that and and be to be fair and to be honest we’re talking about one player right we’re talking about Kevin hder and maybe that’s unfair to Mike because Mike could be listening to this talking about I’m we’re only talking about one player like everybody else got to play and come back and do all this other stuff and and we’re stuck on this one player but you look at Kevin and then looking at a guy like Sasha and not giving him the opportunity I I believe not giving him the opportunity to get comfortable in this rotation when I I think um you still should have been leaning into that whole idea of where this prolific scoring tee I thought that was a misstep yeah I I think there’s a fine line between what Sacramento was and than what Indianapolis was Indiana was um Indiana had I I had to I’m sorry I I I had to I feel like I haven’t seen this in a while I just need to I need to bring this clip back it’s still yeah I just I gotta I just gota Series this is this is the next Lakers head coach right here series they have allowed too much I have no problem with physical play in the playoffs but if Steph Curry’s not allowed to move off the ball if you’re preventing players from running down the court and you’re allowing that to happen there’s a play uh late late in game two where cavon Looney is right underneath the rim ready for a rebound sabon crashes in pushes him in the back they don’t call the foul that’s a foul no the referees have dictated too much in the king’s favor in this series I believe that and I don’t know if it’s the home crowd or whatever I rarely complain about the referees I don’t even know if I’ve ever complained about the referees I think they’re great yep but if they’re going to come back in this series they’ve got to call the game the way the game is supposed to be called the slam on the table wow slam the table supposed to be we we should have known back then that he was angling to be the Lakers coach with a take like that it is so much wor watching it now oh it’s amazing they don’t call the foul that’s a foul it’s a foul the referees have dictated too much in the king’s favor in this series I really believe that and I don’t know if it’s that’s my favorite when someone says I really believe that because I know it sounds like I’m full of crap right now but I really do believe it the home speaking of full of crap we need to talk about that dude at the end of the table at some point croud or whatever I rarely complain about the referees in fact I don’t even know if I’ve ever complained about the ref I think they’re great this dude but they’re come back series they’ve got to call the game the way the game supposed to be called I really believe that and then oh he hit us with two he hit us with two I really believe that oh man you’re right it sounds even more ridiculous today go touch the fence and bad it was ridiculous then but my God it’s even worse today so the moral of the story is that was the team that everybody looked at and said they just they got to get better on the defensive end it’s it’s not going to cut it in the play that team and I disagree I thought they were I thought they were building towards that I thought they had learned some stuff and once again it could be I you can make the argument I’m being completely unfair to Mike Brown because we’re really talking about one player really Kevin herder and it may be a player and a half because he didn’t play Sasha and we believe it’s but the the the the the clock says 143 so we’ll be back with more KC coming up on Sacramento sports leader ESP at 1320 I better better write down what I was going to say that’s all that matters it didn’t matter was your screen froze too oh okay yeah I think um well I looked over like I think the time was off too so like that yeah doesn’t matter whatever but as long as everything ran the way it was supposed to uh for those that didn’t get the that Lifetime Fitness membership was $219 a month yeah I’m sure there’s like some taxes or something fees they got on top of that man man this just for some dumbbells in a basketball court jeez biggity Blake yeah talk about it his man doing press conferences with dried blood on his shirt and black ey guys and it’s fact John P all needs to get me on one of the duckboats oh gosh it’s it’s gonna happen we’ll see if John and connectic can get you out there you know he’s connected yeah gem in the garage is the way to go Michigan oh I’m sure it has more than I’m sure it has more than gyms in a gy uh dumbbells in a uh a court but e Equinox Vibes looks fire looks fire for sure but it’s also in fome which is the worst location on the planet from Roseville they said they got one in Roseville yeah I think they do I think I I think it’s off 65 why don’t we just create our own gym is that an office yeah created a gym for darl yep yep Le I think my pick right now would be Drew holiday I think you know who it is it’s Brad Stevens all right Bob Myers that guy really does not know how to do this job that dude is ass yeah like you can tell he just does not know what he’s doing there he’s like no who do you guys think the MVP is no I got my answer I want to uh uh Jaylen Brown uh Drew holiday Jaylen Brown you know who it is it’s Brad Stevens sir shut the [ __ ] up and then he comes up and he does this whole thing he does it like he’s talking if you didn’t stick around for the conversation with Dereck Wright it is fascinating Derek white looks at Bob Meers like he is the stupidest individual that has ever opened his mouth he’s literally like looking at him dumbfounded he’s talking about the Pacers for God’s sakes and Derek white is just looking at him like dude you were the GM of the Warriors this is I mean this in a nice way because his greatest job this is all Tony Romo’s fault everyone thought these guys could be Tony Romo after he might not be wrong might not be wrong I don’t know why they they thought he was uh any good I have no idea why oh just Dre no personality whatsoever and dumb as a bucket of tax he he tried to send it I didn’t I saw the transcript I didn’t see the clip but he tried to send a shot at Stephen A didn’t he he did yeah he he that was I think [Music] pregame you know when Bob hits him with hey you guys go first and his mind’s like oh I’m gonna cook with this answer like they’re going to love it it’s just no Falls flat he is awful that whole ESPN yeah they’re so bad I don’t even watch it it is so it’s not worth watching bad yeah I just didn’t turn it off fast enough I did I had a weird moment last night where I I flipped over to watch the um after torturing myself and watching Bob Myers on television for three and half minutes um after throwing my face through the window and pulling all of the glass out to just relieve some of the pain of listening to him uh I flipped over to the Sparks and Aces well right at that point like I watched a little bit of it but we had to hey got the call from Sarah hey it’s time so I ran upstairs to do our our our TV work and so I’m coming so we finish up walking back downstairs and as I’m like entering the room there’s this like orange Hue that’s taking over the room I’m like man what is Taz about to walk out like what the hell is this I was like I was like a little bit concerned like what is going on down here well the game had gone off the air and I and I I I guess it was a league pass game so the screen had just gone orange with the WNBA logo and man it it it was that was a tough look but I was I was I was a little bit concerned I was like what did are like my lights broke like what is that light it’s the WNBA logo no it’s it’s I’ve had a situation like that I think I talked about it on the show did I tell you about when the TV just turned on in the middle of the night yeah I think he told us about that that was crazy bro I don’t that’s like the hate Google machines I don’t trust those I don’t know what I still don’t know what happened to this day like they have one example that just doesn’t seem plausible they’re like yeah when the battery’s low on your remote sometimes people have been known to have the TV turn on because they need a new battery that don’t sound I don’t know what happened and I don’t want to know well they can’t tell you the guy who used to live at your house just watches used to watch TV in that room like No One’s Gonna believe that what do you think’s more likely Jesse scenario or the scenario you Googled about the remote oh Jesse scenario it just the The Ghost and Grove was trying to catch up on old episodes of the office and hey my rule is like there’s a ghost at my house like brother that’s your house too like I won’t bother you you let them be don’t bother me yeah you let them be don’t bother me I’ve watched enough movies in my life my my uh yeah my my whole thing is just let let me be we don’t we don’t need to we don’t need to like interact you don’t need to mess with my stuff I won’t mess with your stuff so don’t go moving canisters or anything from 2 am to 5: am we’re good if he’s a ghost he might feel like all of that stuff is his well I mean it I understand that it’s not he doesn’t pay any any of the mortgage his name’s not on the mortgage so it’s it’s not he also doesn’t eat that you know of he doesn’t do any of this so I mean it it’s not so he’s saving you money if he wants to well but if he wants to contribute to this mortgage sure then you can walk around and turn TVs on but if you’re not doing that none of this stuff is yours you don’t even own the land see you’re playing a scary game pal no you really are like arguing with a ghost you can’t beef with a ghost radio show I’m not beefing I think I think he would he would understand it’s lot oh so ghosts are reasonable absolutely what what you think they’re all just evil or something yeah yeah yeah Casper GH big propaganda I’m sorry what do kids go as Halloween they go as ghosts yet there are some that are evil they’re not all evil so so you think ghosts are just kicking it some of them yeah absolutely yeah I mean what you think they’re all just like haunting people it’s a ghost yes what no some of them are just there all right man you so you think they’re you think they’re all evil spirits um I mean if it’s a spirit like immediate I’m concerned just just at the thought of a spirit like what about what about when people are like like I got a daughter right and and my dad passed away and she made you know people just we we having a good we having a good time here say are we yeah c yeah because you got well I am you arguing with a ghost you guys think everybody’s evil every ghost is evil a ghost is no different to a squatter to me bro get out of my house they tell you they tell you like the the old adages like baby SE ghost like baby SE spirits and ghost I didn’t know that yeah that’s what they say so uh say my my dad the spirit of my dad is around you think he’s that’s an evil spirit I don’t know it’s not what the world I I have no idea I don’t know nothing about you Dad it’s not an evil spirit okay think of think of anybody that that you’re close to that you love that they say his spirit is in the house he’s watching it not evil yeah but that’s spirit is different than like yeah that’s true spirit’s different someone turning on the TV what’s the difference between no there’s not there’s not a difference a spirit is it’s like like the spirit is almost like a feeling more than it a ghost is like hey who’s getting up shots outside like why is the ball going ghost is like hey baby want me to get up or who broke my record at 2 o’clock in the morning who who did that those those those are they’re WIS okay they’re WIS so spirits and ghosts are the same yeah I’m going to Google I’m there’s no there’s no are there’s no Casper ring around they don’t put on Spirits they don’t put on bed sheets Casper is Big ghost propaganda bro they don’t do that a ghost is the soul or Spirit of a dead person or no I’m trying to figure out what’s the diff well there’s the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost that’s not what I’m looking for what is the difference between a ghost and a spirit the okay the words ghost and spirit are thought to mean the same thing however they are two entirely different beings thank you ghost the term ghost is an Earthbound Spirit or dead people who remain among the living without crossing over to the other side oh so they never they never left that was the premise of uh what’s my girl uh uh J Hugh Jennifer Love H when that her show she had a she had a she had a show where she talked to people in ghost before they cross Ghost Whisper I think yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Ghost Whisper was on house J was on a show called ghost whis it’s like an early 2000 show and she would talk to them like when Spirits are positive light beings the soul of a person or an animal which has the ability to visit the physical plane after the death of the body to protect or communicate with the loved ones literally sounds like a not the same thing they’re not the same the spirit has crossed over the ghost is just like no no the ghost is like the guy at your house your friend like go home bro over go home that’s why the ghost is pissed off it thinks it’s still exactly not true not true Jesse you just talked about ghost R Ghost Whisper were all those ghost evil some of them were some of them were pretty mean some of them were pretty me all of them evil not all of them were trying to get messages across and all this other St but they were lost that’s my whole point but that’s my whole point not all ghosts or Spirits are evil that’s my whole point no spirits clearly aren’t evil not all ghosts are evil that was the premise of what I’m saying all go all Spirits are nice not all ghosts are bad but most of them are jerks yeah most most ghosts are jerks because they’re gonna f with you like that’s the thing like they’re gonna mess with you because they they’re GNA turn your TV on maybe that was your dad maybe your dad turned your TV on and he had you googling why do TVs turn on in the middle of the biggest laugh ever like this is hilarious the guy from Soul his name was Joe right yes so considered a ghost he died to not cross over yep I guess that kind of ties into Kenny’s point they’re not all bad guess we got examples here I be might be watching uh now the ones that are on um are G my show what’s my show friendly it’s not even my show Jazz likes the show but I end up watching it is it Ghost Hunters I think you said I think it is Ghost Hunters Ghost Hunters yeah yeah Ghost Hunters where they go in there like some now those ones those ones are not really nice they’re not nice at all they’re called causing Havoc knock twice if you are here and then they like throw a lamp across the do friendly ghost exist if so where can I find one these are these are these are Reddit threads this is real Reddit is awesome yeah Reddit that’s that’s where all the sensible people go tune in um dealing with Casey July 8th we have Cas with a Friendly Ghost on at 2:30 friendly ghosts exist discussions I’m not 100% sure but all the signs are there for me you better be careful pal polter guys they go through Electronics those ghosts I see I don’t want no I don’t want no problem with no mean ghost polter gu also one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen was that the one where the guy had the nails in his face no I I don’t think so now what was that you know that’s before what had the nails in it yeah you know the the oh that was Hellraiser yeah that was not Poltergeist Poltergeist was uh what was it they they live like the TV and like they’re here or they’re back I think that was the line the little girl wasn’t that the line back somebody call YY gleon he would know Friday night theater well I think he’s busy he’s got a minute and a half some somebody get him on the phone right now um look at see so look at this it’s a YouTube video that says eight yearold haunted by Friendly Ghost if the ghost is friendly how can it be haunting well because ghosts are little so scary regardless I look I don’t around I don’t want spirits around I don’t want a ghost hanging around my kid because kids are easily influence and stuff like it’s the movies like that’s also that’s also not fair and disingenuous because babies like ghosts the friendly ones they don’t know any better yeah because they so they see them for what they are they’re not they haven’t watched movies forever and are afraid of a ghost they look at like look at that Spirit have you did you see this this was funny did you see this it was a celebrity sorry for the radio audience with celebrity softball game Lady hits a ground ball he’s got the ball letting lady walk all the way to first base and then you’re out you’re that’s amazing he throwing that woman out of there that’s amazing I think she was like 99 years old or something like that they went they went all the way down the first line look they throw him the ball now and he like oh yeah come on down yeah everybody standing up in the flaud she gets to the base is that a ghost or a person where where is this why is her jersey number 69 come on man because there’s no way that woman’s 69 she’s in her 80s at minimum Cleveland she’s at she’s she’s she’s in her 80s maybe 90s well that was like when the Red Sox struck out uh Billy Crystal like just like remember when Billy Crystal played in like a a spring training game or whatever it’s just like throw Billy Crystal a little they brought the heat yeah H yeah they brought the heat yeah don’t even bring the B with you next time take a camera your he’s a Yankees fan I expect nothing else he’s a Yankees F I would have threw a knuckle ball at him I went Magic Johnson to get into the Batters box against Camilo Deval and blow him away too all right but yes babies babies see the spirits for what they are they’re not how do we know this we don’t but there’s two entities that can’t communicate with each other a baby or or can’t communicate with us a baby and a spirit dogs low about to say we know everything we know everything about dogs that’s true well dogs bar at nothing and they say they see it that’s true too dogs do see spirits that was one in one of the Paranormal Activity movies yeah yeah yeah they do okay so we’re basing all of this off movies so far we got the Poltergeist in Paranormal Activity all right no cool gonna base it off this is good it’s fine it’s fine that’s what they do it all the time science they just science you you do what you can with what you got and you have you have educated guesses that’s what they are so Sasha V zenov huh is Sasha a ghost or a spirit he’s about to be a ghost man Sacramento man what’s Luca what’s Luca to the Sacramento Kings go catch it earlier when I called him Doris Barling we all caught last night when Doris that was unall for Doris what did she say so Luke they were talking about how great Luca was and JJ was talking about how great Luca was and then Doris chimes in like hey who were the teams that passed the top two teams that passed on him again who was it d uh JJ who was it noris that was completely uncalled for why would it also wasn’t two was it technically well technically it was like four because it was Phoenix the Kings the Memphis Grizzly select um Triple J yeah and then and I think Atlanta had four they had the four pick and then they they traded with Dallas and so so Atlanta made the pick for Dallas I think kind of I’m not ex I think the Hawks might have the third pick if I’m not mistaken they had a trade yeah jar was fourth yeah I believe so I actually really like Jaren in that draft uh yeah it was Phoenix Sacramento Atlanta was third Jesse’s right then Memphis and then uh yeah so Luca that trade was already so so so yeah three teams passed on him includ yeah yeah once you include Atlanta three teams passed on yeah but d come on Doris we love it that was unall for also no one asked have to do with anything well they’re ghosts or spirits and they’re evil so ghost probably defend better than Luka he no he’s a he’s a ghost on so no look so this was the thing and people always he’s a ghost on the defensive end and a spirit on the offensive one people people some people look to what I said yesterday about Luke on Twitter is hate and because I said something to the effect of his 23 points is fantastic but he’s playing some of the worst defense I’ve ever seen I mean literally every single time he’s guarding somebody they blow by him there’s no resistance there’s not even like a hand check hell get a foul or something like that for trying to reach in or something there’s nothing they literally go by him like he’s a chair and it’s awful so talked about that in the first half then here’s the conundrum for Luca and what I wonder I don’t know if he can do both I don’t know if he can try on the defensive end and score at a high level because what happened in the second half I’m giving him credit when I say this is he stopped that I don’t know if he recognized it himself somebody talked to him I highly doubt somebody talk to Luca like yo you got to play defense I I can’t imagine that’s how the Dynamics go but but he offered more resistance in the second half on the defensive gave up gave more of an effort and it was noticeable like it it it helped Dallas when he did that but what he have in the second half up until like the last minute he had like seven points he was nine of 13 in the first half three of eight in the second half and only had three points in the fourth quarter yeah I think he he can’t is that so what is that is that Boston or is Boston is making the decision to not let him off the hook on the defensive end they are saying you are going to be in all this action and anytime particularly Brown and Tatum have him on a switch they do not pull up for a jump shot they say nope we’re GNA go right around you get to the bucket create kickout opportunities or finish at the hoop they see him in transition we ain’t bailing you out we are going to attack and they’re eating right now off of it and like I said I don’t know if Luka I don’t know if it’s it’s conditioning or what but I don’t know if he can do both if he can a lot to ask conditioning or otherwise like Luca’s conditioning is always going to be criticized but that’s a lot like hey be the main offensive load and no we’re going to wear your ass out over here well yeah I think the Celtics game plan and all this is just like we’re not going to double him or anything like he’ll do his work on offensively but you’re going to have to play both sides of the ball that’s why I feel like they’re trying to make they’re not giving Kyrie a chance to do like if if if if Luca’s going to go for 30 or whatever yo we we’re going to do our best but he’s not we are not letting Kyrie because Kyrie can get going and then all of a sudden a little bit more and this isn’t meant to be a shot but a little bit more than Luca I feel like when Kyrie gets going that’s where the PJs Washington start getting going and and the other guys it feels like there’s a little more again I don’t mean this as a shot but it feels like there’s a little more life in the offense when it’s Kyrie you know having those moments versus Luca having those moment accurate though like it’s not I don’t I feel like shot but it’s it’s just it’s just accurate it’s what it is the the team has a little more life when Kyrie is is going because not only is his offense clicking but it it opens up so much for for everyone else um the Celtics to both your guys’ points the Celtics plan on defense is how they their their plan for defending Luca is how they treat him on their offense that’s how they’re defending Luca like we ain’t gonna send no doubles or nothing out you like that like Jesse said we’re just GNA make sure you work on the other side of the floor can’t hide from us and so far it’s worked the i i nothing has changed about how I feel about this series I think it’s over I thought it was over on Friday um but what I wanted to see from Dallas yesterday was they didn’t have to win the game but they had to show that they could win a game and I came away saying I think they can they could get one of these two in Dallas I think they get one I don’t know if they can win in Boston at all but maybe they could get one of these two in Dallas but that that would lend to being a five-game series if they don’t get game three I think it’s over for yeah um I’m not sure what to think I feel like they have competed it just feels like Boston has another gear yeah that they hasn’t really and I’m not even talking about that aspect of it I’m talking about within the game that’s being played I feel like they have the ability to hit another gear that Dallas just doesn’t and it’s not again it’s not Dallas I don’t think anyone else has this gear and and and Dallas of all these different like that’s they just can’t they just can’t match up and so you know I think close games are going to be tough for Dallas like they’re gonna have to find a way I think to if this is going to get to five or six they’re gonna have to find a way to like you know they’re gonna have to get him like it’s G to have to be a hot shooting game they’re going and this is where Jason kids got to work they’ve got to find a way to free up Kyrie now that might not even be possible but they it just I just don’t think you can survive even with in in these close games if it’s just Luca see that’s the thing though I’m not sure that Kyrie’s gonna be able to show up this series not not it’s not just Kyrie just hasn’t shown up in the finals like Boston has been a problem like they have the blueprint they taking him away it’s been a twoyear thing like he’s been struggling against them for what last 12 games or whatever he has won 0 and 12 now yeah 0 and 12 I think he’s got eight those games he shot less than 40% now it’s it’s tough and then and I also say to me it’s not really a um it’s not it’s not a shot or hated Dallas Dallas is the the fifth best team in the Western Conference record wise like this wasn’t they’ve had a a a hell of a run and a hell of a season in what they were able to do um turning their season around but this this is It’s nothing more than clock striking midnight on Cinderella like they weren’t the team I don’t think any I’m with you I don’t think anybody was going to beat Boston but it this wasn’t the team that was going to give that was going to push them not Dallas not Dallas I don’t think they’re Cinderella they earned their spot here absolutely they won the games or whatever the case may be but you like this team is significantly better to me than the one that went to the Conference Finals a couple years ago uh to be determined for me really I gota see I do not see these two teams as the same thing at all I they they have a they have a lot of guys that you know I want to see what they do again like I want to see well to me that be that’s no bearing on my opinion on them right now what they do next year doesn’t change how I feel about them right now this team right now is better than that team was I don’t know I think Jaylen Brunson was on that team I think Tim Hardway Jr is better than Derrik Jones um Kyrie Irving is better than anybody on that team as well um but I think Maxi was was was a better player was porzingis on that team too I think he was I think porzingis is is better than uh Lively or Gafford I think that I think the teams are equal okay well it doesn’t matter because neither one of them is coming away with a championship oh one one did get to the finals though the did yeah they did and I thought they they they played well to get there like and like with this Dallas team you see it a lot of the things that Dallas has been able to do to get to this point they can’t do against Boston and that’s the that’s the tough part um nothing just absolutely nothing we’ll come back uh James ham is going to join us at the top of the 3:00 hour we’ll talk more about this Sasha zenov thing with the Sacramento Kings what that means for them moving forward we’ll bring into uh we’ll bring him into some of these conversations uh we’ve had as well about Mike’s approach uh last year so a lot more ahead uh regarding the Kings um couple more basketball notes NBA Notes too as well as the W M when Casey return here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 bu let get little 13th round action we had a little little action over the weekend 13th round with your M man Kenny kway big shout out to Jordan BR shout out to the dope ones and shout out to Cola seos you already know the Vibes you know what it is and uh looks like the ab era is done now some of you guys are hearing that and be like it’s been over and you’re not wrong the ab era has been over it’s done but he had a fight against Blair cobs over the weekend he was talking like he was rejuvenated like he was feeling good about himself and he ended up losing yet again yet again unanimous decision loss uh to Blair cbins got knocked down in that fight it feels like man I’m trying to think off the top of my head but it feels like the first time since since Maidana I’ve seen Broner hitting the hitting the canvas lost uh some teeth Torres elbow up to her shoulder up it was a bad bad night for ab um but you know that looks to be all she wrote for ab will he get another fight possibly maybe maybe but at this point you know just like going into that fight like everybody knew like AB not he not him he’s not somebody that you take seriously in this boxing game and you know that that fight on Friday night was was more the same so um I hope for him as an individual that he has um a successful and a good life after boxing um and nothing crazy goes down and he know was able to make some money and take care of his money and things of that nature but yeah I don’t really need to see AB anymore there was a time even when the a Ab era was over like three four years ago it was over but I was still like nah he brings something to the game um that that’s entertaining that’s energizing from time to time but here we are three years later and I was like nah nah we don’t need AP no more so hopefully he retires hopefully he’s got his money taken care of and um he can move on with his life that’s the 13th round never never Never Never Shout Out Z up you he gets tired of doing that he has [Music] to I wonder how much money he gets like I wonder I wonder how lucrative financially this whole thing I mean he probably gets the bodega probably gets a lot of people that come through there yeah I’m sure they get good business now they have to every day I’m sure like I said I I want to go to the bodega when I go so yeah I think that helps it’s going to be pretty sweet been making like just this trash sandwiches because like just the way you make sandwiches or whatever cuz like his brother was like yeah you should record this and put it out there for people that’s how it started I wonder yeah I wonder and it started by himself it was just him and his brother working at the bodega and they recorded it yeah like put this online and then I wonder who the first the first celebrity was that came in here and it kind of changed all that it’s probably like loky New York probably like Stefon Marberry or something Stefon Marberry that’s a good call Stefon Marberry or French Montana Jim Jones came in here and recorded it alen that is uh that’s pretty cool actually Duke is actually really cool because uh Cooper flag will be I I want to go to one of those you see David um did the ghost photoshop on Twitter did see standing right behind you that’s scary oh that was good that was a good one doct now that are those are uh ghosts that that I don’t know are you guys Scary Movie people like do I get scared like like will you go watch a scary movie yeah just scar that don’t bother me what I don’t what I won’t watch is like Final Destination oh yeah I can’t do that we’re not doing that I’m not a saw guy either no no no hell no hell no hell no oh that’s not that’s that’s absurd did absurd how like you saw I’ve seen saw yeah do you like it well I thought well so there’s a point where the original the first one was very like there it was it was there was a purpose to it and then like they did another one and all right like all right okay that’s fine and then they just kept making them and then it was like what is this and it just became so I stopped I think I stopped watching after the second one maybe the first one there’s like a plot there’s like a psychological like Thriller aspect to it then it just got like goofy then it just got you know yeah it just got a little over the top I’ll pass yeah I’ll never know it’s the equivalent to Fast and The fous Putting cars in space pretty much the same that was crazy pretty much the same so you’ve never seen saw at all nah that is that is not going to be on the it’s a little extra it’s not it’s it’s it’s a little extra but the first one made sense as the great M Dre Thizzle Washington what said not my job did you see not my job your your boy this is 100% your guy Stephen A Smith I like Stephen back backlighting dark and he’s sitting on the edge of to the table and he’s got this solo camera shot he’s serious and he’s like Will Smith is he needs to have a conversation with the black community he needs to talk to black people about his behavior with Chris Rock and why he put his hands on that man in front of an international show he needs to have that conversation with the black community before we go see his movies again meanwhile this past weekend $15 million was brought in for Bad Boys four so this shows you a couple of things one Stephen A is a jackass I think I knew that already but this confirmed it because this dude literally he got the nerve to sit on the edge of the table and talk about what Will Smith needs to do with other black people I’m sorry sir why don’t you come talk to black people about your overwhelming desire to defend Dana White’s character Donald Trump’s boy his right-hand man I need you to tell us why you went on TV the merry next day after a video emerged of him putting his hands on his wife why you were so adamant about how you had to defend his character because you’re the same dude who year after year after year talks slick about Colin Kaepernick you’re the same dude who year after year after year told the company line about athletes protesting what they should be doing instead of taking a knee how they should be getting their point across rather than doing this you I’m sorry did you get an invitation for a black people meeting with Stephen A Smith no yeah no I don’t think that meeting happened but his punk ass has got the nerve to tell one of the biggest International stars in history he needs to meet with black people your boy is a clown I’m all out on your boy he’s an absolute clown clown I saw I saw he really plays the Mr black guy role when it works for him but when it’s time to stand up and say something and do something against the likes of Dana White or Roger gell he ain’t got nothing to say bro is this what’ you say as phony as A3 Bill not even a$2 bill but a $3 bill yeah but it’s not phony is a $3 bill that’s your boy I mean I I like a Smith and I saw the uh I saw the the the tweet and I just kept scrolling you see you see the way people reacted when Will Smith walked out of that theater did you see that tweet yeah yeah ain’t nobody worried about no meeting I don’t I don’t know where he got that goofy ass dude that no nobody nobody I know consistent that’s all I’m asking be consistent Stephen don’t when destroy that Stephen A impersonation on the back pocket good St yeah serious Stephen A yeah yeah yeah no we’re we’re going to use that don’t worry he’s going he’s gonna have some opinions on some things yeah yeah no we got NBA final 1320 show coming up like we got guests yeah we’ll have Stephen A there like like he wants like when that’s that’s what he does when he wants you to take him seriously he starts talking though that’s when he’s being the serious journalist he’s dramatic when he’s an Entertainer he’s going to just yell at everybody so it was just last week that he made every black woman in the history of sports media famous and this week uh Will Smith need to meet with black people all right bro it was Monica mcnut that went at him last week right yeah yeah she hasn’t been on that show since to no they sent her to Around the Horn they put her on around the horn he had uh they had uh Jan and Andrea yeah Andrea Carter yeah on today so I don’t know if they’re taking Monica mcnett’s uh place or not but I don’t know I don’t know Stephen A he doesn’t uh and maybe this is he brought up brought up uh CH bu’s name as if she wasn’t like an allamerican at Stamford four times bro get out of here he he’s he’s to the point for me um where I either enjoy what he’s saying and and like the entertainment of it or I don’t I don’t really it don’t really bother me well good for you because that’s what he is is he’s an Entertainer and he should never ever be taken seriously in anything that he says he says stuff for entertainment it’s just funny to me that he’s willing to talk about what black people need to do when he wasn’t willing to say a single bad word about that jack off that runs the UFC and who was he showing to his seat a week ago well that wasn’t a didn’t that wasn’t a black issue a’t no white doing what he did no what I’m saying is he’s quick to call out Will Smith he’s quick to call out Colin Kaepernick yeah but he didn’t want to call out Dana White no I got you he wanted to defend Dana White’s character that was okay bro that’s that’s still one of the most bizarre moments TV history for me him and Molly yeah that was wild like it it was like that was so wild you could not say nothing like if that’s how you that’s what you believe or what you could not say nothing you voluntarily went out of your way to speak the way you did on that that was crazy that was a that was crazy and you know what repercussions he face from ESPN for that oh none none the same Dana White did none absolutely the same exact repercussions Dana White Faced absolutely none um I really can’t stand that like I he he did he didn’t that bothered me maybe it’s because I like Will Smith so much but that bothered me that he he he done he the only the only person that really bothers me nowadays that podcast bothered me like the open of that podcast where he just named like Kimberly Martin he named like 10 black women in sports media and basically took credit for all of them he didn’t they didn’t do that though he didn’t take credit for them in sports media he talked about how they’ve been on his show so but wasn’t it framed as you know who they are because they’re on my show I didn’t I I saw it maybe once or whatever the I didn’t really see the whole clip or see the whole thing but he said he said I remember him saying you didn’t know who Monica mcnut was until she came on first take and all this other stuff um so I I I think that was just you I don’t know why you I don’t even know why he would say all that stuff I know the conversation I was had that day that’s why he felt some type of way and had to say it but like the way he he frames this stuff it’s like all right self-importance that’s all it is Miss self-importance but the whole the original point was um he the he doesn’t bother me the only person that the only person that opens their mouth and really bothers me at this point is probably yay that’s probably it and I’ve actually kind of gotten to the point where I’m able to tune him out so no nobody really gets my blood boiling when they talk that doesn’t mean that there aren’t jackasses there’s jackasses all over the place but nothing gets your blood boiling you just move it like a you move it to spe of spirit there’s things that there’s things that that piss me off Miss free throws Miss free throws for sure jez thankfully we’ll never together when that happens make a free throws they were talking scooter says except for people on on on Twitter right can you not not really like I don’t if I respond I respond then don’t really it doesn’t live past the response I say what I say and then move on with with with whatever I’m doing at the time so no because when I deem you as a jackass when I deem you as somebody that isn’t a serious person then that’s just kind of where you live so I try not to let people that I don’t them deem to be authentic or uh a serious person I I try not to let them affect my mood or anything like that so that’s why I look at a guy like skip like skip is he’s who he is he can’t really say anything that bothers uh I you mentioned Andrea Carter and those ladies who are on um First Take I saw a clip emerge I scrolled past um but they were talking about Caitlyn Clark being left off the USA team uh do you have a opinion on that um no not not really it’s not nearly as big of a controversy as people want it to be they man look Sal right here on uh is it a big deal or no it’s not it’s not a big deal I’m not even sure that she’s not going to make it like though I the the there’s two there’s two there’s two names that got my attention neither one of them are Diana tras one of them I think you agree with is Chelsea Gray Chelsea Gray hasn’t played yet I have to assume USA has has had a lengthy talk with the aces about her return before the Olympics get here yeah um and they were satisfied with what they’ve heard I was I was watching that same game last night I didn’t I don’t know why it didn’t dawn on me or why it didn’t connect I didn’t realize she was still out from the injury from last year like what the hell was that did they ever really say what it was I don’t remember what it was because I don’t thought it was the ankle right because we got yes we got tipped off to Chelsea joining the Kings team the broadcast team and we we just we kept it we we sat on it and I remember when she got hurt I was like I wonder if she’s not the talking to you privately wonder if she’s not going to do this because she’s got a rehab and I and I I am wondering if that threw off the timeline of Chelsea ultimately joining the team but yeah she’s still crazy she still still trying to get right and then the other one was and again I understand but Britney I I don’t know that I would have like Britney just started playing mhm um it does feel like she’s kind of like a if you think Diana terasi is a legacy ad like Britney is to a certain degree also however and you can you know disagree with this if you want like if Britney wants to play for USA then I’ll let Britney play for USA it really is kind of that simple yeah simple as that I agree with you on that so so kitlin not getting there like aside from Diana who is as of right now having a hell of a season a much better season than I would have thought she had shown that she can still play at a high level um and like you said maybe you get say Britney I don’t know is Britney playing she just I can’t remember seeing her yeah she just returned um or debuted I I don’t know if right now today he Caitlyn is better than anybody else on that team and that’s that doesn’t mean that’s where she’s going to end up or you know she doesn’t have the potential or anything else like that but you’re making a team for right now she and you got 12 slots she may be a top 15 player in the world or something like that right there’s no there’s no shame in that but she might not be at the level of those other players as of right now the thing that um I thought was kind of just wild like like I really thought it was it was wild to have this taken I get it I I guess I get it even though I think it’s wild is like the the thought that um you know Caitlyn would bring so much notoriety to the game I’m sorry is this is this the basketball tournament is this what this is not the Olympics is that did I I mistaken sorry when was the last time USA didn’t win a gold medal come on man well look even on top of that don’t do that where are we playing where is this Tournament being held Paris the Olympics the Olympics does the Olympics need more like oh the the Olympics is in danger they need a spotlight shine on it let’s get Caitlyn CL it’s the Olympics and probably if we’re being honest is this the most anticipated Olympics maybe the last handful people have been talking about the Paris 2024 Olympics for a while as far as basketball and just just the the the pageantry of the Olympics in per you hear all the time maybe Brazil was another one Rio was another one where people like oh no I’m I need to go to I heard that for different reasons I heard that forti I need to hit that one no no well that’s that’s not far off what they were saying but Paris is Paris has been that one for a minute since it was announed sure yeah it’s a it’s I yeah like there’s a there’s a Prestige to like it’s Paris yeah sure also the last one was kind of a cluster it was the 2020 Olympics in 2021 so there was that um so look Caitlin will be fun to watch but it it is the Olympics but I get the idea of the clarky tuning in for you know maybe maybe they tune in for Caitlyn and they don’t tune in for uh clarky are a little at this point like if that’s if that’s what’s going on the the Clark that’s how I felt about the Dres a couple months ago but it but at least at least it felt like the Dres had listened to Hip Hop before Drake it almost feels like the clarky had never watched basketball until caylin CLK well that’s UC Steve UC Steve has just declared he’s the stupidest person in the chatty house brought to you by Matthews mattress so congratulations to UC Steve he gets the dummy award uh head it us Steve head into Matthew’s mattress and tell him you won the dummy of the day award and see if they they might give you an extra pillow go check in with them um let’s get to these phone lines man uh let’s start with Buddha he’s been waiting patiently uh 91699 1320 uh Buddha what up baby yo family what’s up with Y boys we good man what’s going on with you Buddha man everything good bro and just hop back in the lab you know how it is okay okay I see yeah man I’m looking at the finals right so both teams basically made a trade for two impact players right so I feel like you can’t be scared to make a trade so last week I called about Zack LaVine and CZ but I feel like I got a more reasonable trade that I want you guys to see what you guys think about so the first one is uh C for Kev pick 13 and Davon and also it was reports that Kellin Johnson they the Spurs were actually listening for offers on them now so I’m saying what you guys think about Barnes and the future first for Kellin Johnson because Kellin Johnson he’s a spot up underrated scorer and he’s also underrated Defender so I feel like he’ll be an upgrade and Cruz will be an upgrade what you guys think you think we be contenders with that move well for the record I like both of them absolutely um the thing now correct me if I’m wrong here that was a report that Devin facel is not someone that San Antonio is interested in moving which which here on D Casey we’ve been saying for months at this point like in regards to like Malik and stuff like that right they got Deon for sale right yeah and the the the framing of it was like Devon vasel and wmy are the guys that’s their that’s the that’s a group that’s those are the two guys they want to build around and I feel like that was interpreted as oh great everybody else can be traded and I don’t know if that’s and and maybe I misre it that’s not how I interpreted it but I’ll call if I’m mty McNair I’ll call absolutely AB I like kin Johnson man I I I think he’s uh I think he he’s a a good ball player not sure if on like a championship team or you want to be a contending team or something like that he’s necessarily a starter he might be like a sixth or seventh man but I I I’m trying to work through it because I do feel like in certain respects like he he can be that type of guy um but if the kings were able to to swing a deal for him not give up too much absolutely it helps the squad absolutely uh let’s get I like the Kellin Johnson one a lot let’s get Ramsay in here 916 can can I guess well yeah I hav’t seen I didn’t look I didn’t look I didn’t look I just saw his name so all right um Mike I mean Stanley cuup finals game two is tonight not he’s not doing but I don’t think he’s going there I think he’s going back to Caitlyn in the Olympics yeah it’s it’s that’s what he’s doing what’s up Ramy got that’s not a yeah no I texted in the group your behavior is very s you’re on I didn’t look you’re you’re you know what you are you’re steroid what you are this is essentially this is essentially what you are you’re Donald Trump oh don’t let me let me you wanted to fight about the end you want to fight now you have been convicted of a crime but in the end it doesn’t matter like we have determined you guilty in cheating the last Blake Griffin pocket watching segment and you all wrong but there’s nothing we can do about it how do I cheat you had you knew the answer so what well it showed up on your timeline like you because you you you damaged the Integrity of the pwl it how how did I do that how do I do that I didn’t ask for Blake Griffin to be a part of pocket watching just happened to come across the timeline huh yeah that everybody saw no I no not everybody let’s get uh okay what’s up Ramsay yeah quick thing before I get to the WNBA the Lifetime Fitness is almost around the corner there from y’all on a secet ravine in East Roseville Parkway so it’s not that far from the studio I’m still not going Ramsey we also trying to keep our location secret now I am Ramsey just said hey pull up on these guys this is exactly where they’re at but but getting back to but getting back to the US Olympic team I’m not even going Caitlyn the there’s two names one I’m pleasantly surprised that’s on the team and one that’s a garan Omission I know I know the Omission it’s got to be arque that’s his Squad yeah that’s his girl yeah re How You Gonna not have the second best scorer in the league going to the Olympics and the the pleasant surprise to me honestly was Kalia copper I didn’t expect her I didn’t expect her to be on the I did not I didn’t see that anywhere with her being on the Olympic team but I’m pleasantly surprised that she is there I’m I’m only chuckling not because of the because you’re right she she’s a B I couldn’t I was was she the one that had the press conference was Kia Cooper the no she’s on Phoenix now who was the girl in SE in uh Chicago did you see who at the the press conference who got mad during the after the who got mad after what after the game the reporter asked like one of the the regular sports questions right he like he’s like uh what does the bench need to do for in the next game for you guys to be better she she goes what um you you talking about the bench right and he goes yeah yeah like what what do they need to do the next game for you guys to like be in a better spot she goes she’s like acting kind of confused like what what and then she had had it she said So you you’re talking about the bench right bro what no listen so so she was acting confused she’s like you’re talking about the bench right he like yeah what is the bench need to do better okay well what did they do the last game when we won they scored she’s like all right bet they scored what did they do this game not much all right so what does the bench need to do next time oh my God she had had it with the reporter and she’s like they probably need to score all right there’s the answer is that it I’m out of here Jesus how did I miss that press conference she was trying to figure this out and when to find out who that was when it registered she was she was not there for it for whatever reason now I’m just now I’m just dying to know who that was and if we can find it I don’t think she curses so I think I think it’s good when when was the last time Chicago played I think it was from Saturday night I believe I saw it a lot yesterday oh they lost to the dream yeah they lost to the dream she yeah she wasn’t she wasn’t happy at all um we will Ramsey has say something else well so he mentioned arque or arri I’m not sure what her footing is in with USA Basketball USA is very um they’re very like of the belief this is prestigious this is an honor and if you don’t do everything we ask well then you just can’t be a part of this you know what else and and I was texting because you know Trista has passionate feelings about this stuff texting with Trista this morning and you what I realized as we were talking no one has ever said a player from Yukon has been snubbed from USA Basketball there’s never been a player who went to that University where you said man I can’t believe they got left off this team this literally never happened ever I’m going to find that clip I absolutely have to see that press conference clip and we’ll come back uh James ham will join at the top of the hour Ste and Casey brought to you by Sky River Casino here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 this is going to be difficult because I don’t know who the player was like if you go to like one of those like basketall like it was it was pretty viral guess I need to get on Twitter more because I I’d never get on Twitter Stephen A Smith sounded off I swear [ __ ] that guy man jeez is the worst Tatum Kyrie they had the suits out they had the double breasted joints on last night oh Bob Meyers dumbass Bob Myers is a great example of man you could be really really smart at something you could be really really good at something that doesn’t mean you’re good at everything else or perhaps in Bob’s case anything else man clutch tweets a lot I might not be I’m not be able to find it on here Paul Pier sitting next to the Sha that’s funny the camera’s going to be fixated on Paul Pierce if they win it’s going to be so annoying hey man relax I’m preemptively saying get Paul Pierce off of my TV they want Caitlyn to say something like wrong or be angry so bad she said the right thing like every step even dating back to the angel stuff in the they wanted her to like go ahead and she was like no Sops it’s all good I don’t even know who to like say it is but they like they they have hijacked like this whole Caitlyn Clark 100% WNBA stuff like it’s not even fun at this point 100% see it was Friday night see the Caitlyn stuff was Saturday I’m never going to find this clip also Asia is crazy good like ridiculously good she’s having the one of the best runs like I think ever and I don’t mean this season I mean like the start of her career the start of her career is insane what year sh five is she Pat my home is this is this Asia’s fifth year yeah she oh that’s a good one okay that’s a good one Jesse just asked if Asia was Pat Mahomes I don’t hate it at all because I was just talking about the run that she has oh I sure changed her a lot this is like her seventh year wow that’s crazy to think about she was at she was at South Carolina that long ago man I would I would have I would have thought it was about five years ago or so Asia Asia is Cold as Ice uh let’s get Jeremy in here 916 909 1320 Jeremy what’s going on brother hey man it’s been too long man I know you guys are still doing well but real quick so how wonder how popular do you guys think that the women’s game is internationally obviously the Olympics doesn’t need any uh extra people to sell out the Arenas do you think that the international fans want to see Caitlin Clark and then you kind of hit it before he went to break if she was a Yukon girl does she still get snubbed or do you think she’s on the team no if you go to Yukon you don’t get snubbed those are the rules um the international game the the the women’s International game is it it’s fire it’s always been above Pace where it is here it’s always been well above Pace uh where it is here um the difficult part with things like this is I think it would have been it would it was going to be controversial whether she was on it or not like it would the the the reaction you know because if she makes it you’re going to focus on who didn’t and now you’re trying to swap her out whether it’s for Diana or Britney or or or Chelsea Gray or whoever um and that’s tough she would have been by far the youngest player on the team by like four years I would have liked to seen her on it to be honest with you I would have liked to have seen her on it but I I don’t know who to take off if for some reason Chelsea’s not ready and again I don’t think they named Chelsea great at this team without knowing full well not only will she be be ready but she’ll be she’ll be ready to play and contribute and help you win a gold medal um but i’ I’d still keep like a little bit of an eye on that um but I would have liked to seen her on it to be honest yeah I um I like this whole thing kind of caught me off guard so to speak because I didn’t I I didn’t really think about her being on the team or not being on the team one way or another like if she were to if she would have been on the team it would have been great it would have been all good man she’s she’s exciting um she’s skilled it’s all good she’s not on the team all right wasn’t her time you know what I mean like I didn’t think it was a a I didn’t think it would create such a uproar that she’s not on the team or potentially not on the team really yeah given given the given the way the first couple weeks of this WNBA season is gone everything she has done or hasn’t done that’s what we was talking about during the commercial break they want her to say something wrong so bad they want her to like be angry or or call out angel or Kennedy or they just they just she’s got to go with someone like someone um and she uh won’t um Timmy 2000 says Diana is 42 it’s time to move on uh firmly disagree Diana terasi has the opportunity to win her sixth gold medal give me that give me that 10 times out of 10 man uh she is deserving she’s playing good ball right now as well who else that’s the thing that’s the thing that that kind of gets me is like she she’s hooping she’s hooping right now and I and and I was kind of all ready for you know her to look crazy and then like make this team and be like n that’s not fair she come on man she absolutely can be playing at that level I definitely thought she was going to look crazy this year the Phoenix is Phoenix is a lot better than I expected a lot lot better than I expected who else eiz ebiz what up boy hey what’s up with it y’ what’s up with it man it’s been a while man how you been dog man I’ve been good man I’m up out of school right now you know I’ve been a substitute teacher so you know I I was doing my thing man so I’m out here on um break you know my man I could dig it I could dig it best time of the year for teachers is like right about now summer break let’s go man check this out man I’m a sub so you know we work daily I ain’t no regular teacher they get paid throughout throughout the year I got I gotta get paid during the school year but you know I got I’m about to do summer school I’m a hood teacher bro they like me but I be putting these kids up in check I even care all right anyways let me H at you guys about something real quick all right so um I’m sure you guys I I know you guys seen it like I hear I just got on and I heard you guys talking about Caitlyn a lot and I just want to ask you guys something about her I’ve been on uh Twitter lately and I noticed a lot of people do have a problem with her about not being on the Olympic team but they’re making it uh racial you know a lot of people are making it racial you already know what kind of people are making it racial but I was wondering like have you guys been like seeing that because it it’s kind of tripping man because it’s it’s it’s like Maga became you know casual fans like with basketball so you know they saying you know it’s not just Maga but you know I just know it’s a lot of them because they be putting like the little Flags no reason but let me let me let me hear y’all about that though uh yeah e this the the the racial component to Caitlyn Clark was born more out of the NCAA Championship with Angel Reese um the mean nasty Hood black girl was was teasing the the poor little innocent white girl who just loves to play basketball and D Caitlyn didn’t bite then she didn’t bite a month ago she didn’t bite a week ago she didn’t bite this weekend she’s not here for like any of that nonsense um but yeah it it is it’s like outkick needs content too so so they’re using you know Caitlyn as their their Great White Hope and this is this is the the weird thing about Caitlyn she said absolutely nothing at all to fame these F fan these Flames nothing but to some people she hasn’t said enough to deescalate it and I feel like Caitlyn’s in a no- win situation I have no issue with the way that she’s handled this she’s handled it yo it’s basketball she said this weekend this is the most competitive team in the world I’ve gotta I’ve got to get better and and it gives me something to strive for like she literally gives you all of the textbook payon Manning pro athlete answers but like people want her to say something else like stop picking on kid they want her to be like some sort of white savior or something it’s like man we don’t no she’s doing fine like she’s she’s doing exactly what you would want her to do and the the call for her to do more is so weird everything about this Caitlin Clark thing is weird a lot of the time is it’s it’s really bizarre um much like you that she’s she she said everything I would and I from the I don’t want to say the moment we were introduced to her but the moment it became like a real National story two years ago or whatever been consistent with how I feel about her and how I look at her she’s a Hooper she’s she’s just a she’s a basketball player and she understands the Dynamics of being out there on that court and a lot of the times that’s where her her responses um kind of come from like that of a of a the the the first time I heard her kind of get away from that and have like a little bit of a a victim mentality which I didn’t hold against her I just thought the answer was a little bit like victim mentality was after the Kennedy Carter situation and in that it was that game the the the the press conference to that game and she was just like I don’t know I just I can’t retaliate because if I retaliate like like like it like she that’s the first time I heard her feel like or say as if she was being picked on or something like that and I was like Ah that’s a little different from Caitlyn but then the other day she speaks and that’s more so what I know Caitlyn to be Caitlyn’s just like it’s whatever like to a certaine to a certain degree I feel like Caitlyn is like kind of tired of all like would wish this aspect of it all would just go away if they’re going to play tough against me and it’s going to be physical like just let it be that so I can get past it and then be like just a regular basketball player to everybody else let’s not keep bringing this up as to um something different than anybody else is going through so like you said a lot of people want Caitlyn to say things that number one she doesn’t believe and she doesn’t it’s not her style like she’s a Hooper she I think she understands all of this and she’s she’s doing her best to be the best ball ball player she can be and like push through all this yeah and Caitlyn or not let’s just talk about what really needs to talk about and that is Asia Wilson leading this country to where it needs to go like because Asia’s still one I just I just looked up you know Diana got one MVP that’s kind of crazy that’s on par with Kobe Diana got and and Asia Asia’s got uh she’s got two already as is the truth the a is sneaky five and four though yeah they look uh well Chelsea’s out um they do look they they legit look bored like seriously like they they they’re better than the Sparks but the Sparks you they they they executed down the stretch and um yeah Aces also not even in the slightest worried about the aces but I look over at the way the Liberty is playing I look over at the way the the the sun are playing and it’s like man man those are two squads right there two squads right there the the the the Beast of the East they they ready to they’re ready to have another show down and then there’s Minnesota oh man Minnesota just lingering around all this like no no no no get your stuff off don’t worry about us did we got one of the top scorers in the entire league on our Squad with y’all go ahead did you did you see a I found the clip I sent you the clip oh no I didn’t I I didn’t know on Twitter the other thing while spent the whole commercial break scrolling for it oh you pull that up don’t quote me on this and look I’ll say it now because you tagged me in it yeah yeah I tagged you I I’ll I’ll say it now because I don’t want nobody you know talking crazy about me don’t quote me on this do you know who who makes the most uh who has the highest contract in the WNBA who has the highest contract in the w NBA currently uh no Jesse Banna Stewart no she I’m I’m go I’m go I’m gonna go against Banna she signed like a one-year deal I think or two years with New York I’m gonna go no anybody in the chat want to guess where I said oh shout out John PA shout out John PA Jackie young what’s the what’s the amount I don’t know my son’s man all right that was riveting question I swear to God I didn’t ask any further questions somebody uh ree asked me the other day he like who makes the most money in the WNBA and I was like you know that’s a good question I don’t know we gotta on this day and as I as I uh as I thought about it he said I’m not wasting any time and just Google Reese is smart uh and on this day for what wrestling we’re talking about it last week on this day for wrestling June 10th on this day June 10th I can’t ask the year that might give me the year make me do math I think it’s 96 96 or early 9 yeah it’s 96 I think or 97 one of those years June 10th 96 or 97 I don’t think I know maybe it’s not Austin King of the Ring 96 maybe Hunter King of the Ring I don’t know Kevin Nash shot up at WCW for the first time look at the adjective play we ain’t here to play that’s a good call all right buddy Jackie young earns $252,000 signed a two-year roughly half a million dollar contract that’s about what we signed James for when he joined us here uh at ESPN 1320 our man James ham with us James of course of the Insiders James ham also of course of the Kings beat James what the hell happened over this weekend with Sasha venkov and um in fact that’s that’s a question that probably doesn’t even matter it it seems regardless of what report you’d believe and who broke up with who Sasha won’t be playing for the Sacramento Kings next year I don’t know uh we’re gonna have to wait and see how this all plays out like look I think anytime we deal with with reporting from overseas um it’s tough to trace right so if if everyone remembers two years ago like it was a done deal that s Sasha was coming over like five times and then he didn’t so I’ve always kind of like aired on the side of caution uh it wouldn’t like the Kings have no incentive to have a conversation with anyone about this at this point this is like they’re knee deep in in draft prep and free agency prep all this stuff is coming up in the couple in the next couple of weeks I just find it interesting the two different reports and you know like I’ve had people tell me on on social media hey the the first report isn’t that guy’s not as reputable reputable as the second report and that that doesn’t change my thinking because one report comes out at like four o’clock in the morning here by the guy who’s allegedly not very uh reputable and then the next report comes out at like 5:15 so we’re talking about like an hour and 15 minutes later somebody who knows Sasha came out with a secondary report so I just think it’s it’s always strange when we’re we’re trying to decipher what is actually being said and what’s actually going to happen and we’ll have to wait and see uh that’s just kind of how I’m approaching this do you feel like there was like it there is a a disconnect between Sasha the the coaching staff the franchise what he thought he was getting into like is do you think that aspect of it all is true like regardless of who said what or where the the sources are coming from do you think there’s he’s not happy with this with with being here in Sacramento well I I spent a ton of time with Sasha all season long and look the guy just wants to play and and I get that he’s a guy who is you know W an MVP overseas he’s a guy who is widely considered one of the better players in Europe and to have him like come to Sacramento and go from you know being a superstar overseas to a guy who averaged 12.2 minutes per game over 40 something games um I don’t think that that’s what he expected at all but I also you know he hadn’t really dealt with injuries before and um he he not only had like one major catastrophic like grade three ankle sprain but he had like two or three other ankle sprains including one earlier like in the same game on the opposite leg so he just went through it a bunch and uh he’s a guy who’s here on his own and probably was pretty lonely throughout the season um but at the end of the day like look he’s under contract and when you sign a three-year deal um you know like the Kings have his rights if he wants to go back to Europe I’m sure they’re more than willing to have a convers ation with him and see what that would look like and and either void the final the this coming year’s salary or uh or work out some sort of buyout or something but uh like I don’t think we’ll know if this thing is going to head towards like the dark end until we get a little bit later in this into the off season I mean again the Kings could trade him uh you know like between now and and you know July 6th and and it like everything could change we have no idea what’s going to happen in the situation again I think it’s way too early do you think Mike gave Sasha a legitimate shot here in the League last year I think that’s it’s a hard question because I don’t think that like we talked about this coming into training camp right we talked about this like at the end of free agency that the Kings had had brought in they have four forwards and the for Forge don’t really like they don’t complement each other they’re they’re all like in one way or another they’re pretty similar you know really good shooting um not great Defenders the fact that you know Keegan Murray stepped up and became better than what he than what anyone expected on the defensive end I think that helps but at the same time like I don’t know what Mike’s supposed to do you have two starters you have your young guy that you’re bringing along right that you you’ve put a whole lot of eggs in that basket you bring a veteran back with a 17 18 And1 19 million deal over the next three years and then you bring Trey Lyles back at a two-year eight million deal and then oh yeah we have this other guy Sasha and again the problem that I saw was that these guys are all too similar they’re and where that comes into play is that they don’t complement each other there’s there wasn’t a player that Sasha could play with on that front line that could help sort of mask some of his deficiencies as a defensive player and that’s a problem so I just kind of felt like it was a a little bit of a bad mix but at the same time I mean I’m not sure what Mike Brown is supposed to do I mean he’s got Trey Lyles who was so good the year before and was one of his leaders on the team and then he’s got Keagan and Harrison Barnes so I’m not sure that there was really a an easy solution here ESP especially since none of those guys are long athletic defensive players that can you know help the other guys help again mask the deficiencies of any of the other guys how how long was the time that Trey La was out he didn’t start this SE yeah because at the very end of the preseason he hurt his calf um and did that I guess I could have L but did did that coincide with like with Sasha getting those minutes while was out or was he still kind of getting dmps or not getting a lot of tick while Trey LS was out yeah I’d have to go back and look the first 13 games of the season is where lyes got hurt and uh you know he got hurt the last the last couple of days of training camp and um and I mean I think that there was some opportunity for Sasha but also like you got to remember he’s a rookie he’s trying to acclimate to the NBA in the first 13 games of the season so I’m not even sure that’s really all that fair um I would have liked to have seen him get like some pretty substantial playing time along the way but it just never really popped up in that first uh like again the first 12 games of the season um he played an all but one and uh like he played quite a bit more he averaged 14 minutes a game um six points you know almost two rebounds a game um so yeah he he did get an opportunity early uh but you know again as the season went on I think he just kind of went back to what uh to what he knew what Mike knew and that is guys like uh guys like Trey guys like you know needing to steal minutes for Kevin herder at the at the three so you could play Malik monk more minutes like I don’t think it’s just one thing that caused this to work out this way and I would again who knows what’s going to happen uh the Kings could make you know a couple of Trades here and guys like Trey ly or uh you know Harrison Barnes they could not be on the team you know in two weeks and then maybe Sasha does have a spot and and maybe this whole thing kind of works itself out I just think for right now it’s it’s kind of weird timing how you you you mentioned like potential trades like how big of a factor is his contract like is it like 6 point n like guaranteed this year I know there’s there’s something with the third year but that’s a pretty attractive number right to to add to another contract make salary work all those different types of things I just imagine it becomes more difficult if the guy’s like no I’m gonna go to Europe it’s cool um no actually I think that this this can actually work out um I I think he makes right around 6.5 6.6 this year and remember we’ve talked about this early um under the new CBA guys like this can be traded for twice as much as their salary right so so if he’s making 6.5 million that’s basically like a$1 13 million uh trade value like you can go up to uh $13 million in return and you can aggregate that with another player so I think my point would be if you take if you take Sasha VZ zenov and you take Chris DTE and you put them together that’s a $25 million worth of salary that you could take back in return so I don’t believe that it matters all that much I I I think where it really would matter is if somebody is trading for for Sasha to trade for Sasha right as opposed to trading for Sasha to take on a $6.5 million expiring contract and and I’m not sure that at this point that he’s proven that he’s more than a $6.5 million expiring contract and I would say the same with DTE but you kind of it depends on who who’s trading for them and what their their motivation is I would even say like look if if you were to trade for Sasha VZ zenov and he goes to another team and then he decides to work out a buyout with that team that team could come away looking much better you could trade you know you could trade and take back up to 25 million bucks with a salary and then have the guy basically opt out of not only his final year which is a team option for the final year but also he could say hey I want to go back to Europe and I’m willing to like void the final year of my contract and so you could actually have it work out really well for you as another team who if you were looking him at him as a an expiring contract not a player okay it’s complicated right it always is it is it is I want I want to ask the questions though I want to ask the question we radio showing over here I want to ask the questions James are Monty and Mike Brown on the same page as far as building this roster building this franchise it feels like they have two distinct different differences when it comes to the type of players they want to have on this roster and the style of play they want to play could be making something out of nothing but Monty all year has been talking about the offense needs to improve I remember you uh I think last week talking about how Mike Brown was kind of um alluding to things after that comment by Monty came out throughout you know in in his his press conference is talking about we’re working on offense we’re working on offense I don’t think they have beefer issues or anything else like that and I think they they have the same direction they want to go in but are they on the same page as far as building out this rosi you know I I think that they are um but I I also think that like coaching is they get a certain allotment of players and that’s what they got right so you can’t sit there and complain and complain and complain that you don’t have enough players or you don’t your players aren’t good enough and then and then have a general manager add talent and say well I added talent and it’s like okay you didn’t get me the right kind of I think that there could be a better like this is like fulfillment of a wish list but I don’t always think that like there’s an ability to do that the kings were able to go out and basically you know they got Sasha Vena for for basically free right they got it as part of a a second round pick Swap and then all of a sudden he went from being like a solid European player to like a really really good European player to an MVP in Europe over like a two-year period um and so all of a sudden you know it’s a GM’s job to look under every rock turn over every stone and and try to find Talent wherever he can and I think at the end of the day that’s what they thought they were doing with Sasha and I just think that there’s there’s just a major problem with the the design of the players that you had like and you might not know that until you get them on the court and and you see how they play you also might not know that you know a guy like jav McGee just isn’t the shot blocker he once was isn’t the defensive presence he once was and so you could have gone into that off seat come out of that offseason thinking okay well I can put you know javil and and Sasha on the court together one space is the floor and the other one has his back defensively and then you get into the season you’re like okay well that’s not what javil is anymore and that’s not going to help Sasha so there’s all these ingredients that you’re kind of testing out and as a coach you really you have to take you have to give some input and hope that they go out and get you the right types of players but then once you got those players you got to sit down and like do the best you can to coach what you have and it at some point you feel like you have redundancy with your players where you know one guy where where three guys do the same thing but you can only play two of them you have to make it difficult decision and so I don’t think like I wouldn’t say they’re not on the same path I would just say that that there are certainly some things that that could happen here that you know were more Mike Brown and there certainly some some pieces here that Monty could have more input on on on the basketball side uh but I don’t know I I I think they’re fine and I think that they’re gearing up for what’s like one of the most Su the most important offseasons that we’ve seen in Sacramento in a long time do you have a followup I feel like you’re you’re thinking about something you just had a look like a James Ham’s full of crap look on your face I just wanted to see if I no I’m just okay I just just wanted to make sure just wanted to make sure sure cuz we were I mean it we we didn’t even get to this part we kind of had it like Monty Monty needs a win like I I don’t know what man Man’s last win was like because you know you’ve got Duarte I I guess Sasha that was kind of a collective um javel worked like it for what it was so so but here but here’s the deal and like I said we radio showing right now it feels to me it goes on Monty’s permanent record but it feels to me javelle and Chris were Mike Brown calls oh I I don’t know about dwarte guy to me yeah I don’t agree with like javil McGee was definitely a Mike Brown thing um but again a league minimum contract was never gonna make her break no no no no no and I think with dwte like look when you’re trading for a player like that who you know had one season under his belt on a bad Indiana Pacers team and then the next season struggled with ankle injuries the whole year and barely played you don’t really know what you’re getting because he’s a third-year player but he’s also like a 27y old third-year player he’s a top you know he’s a lottery pick I think he was the 13th pick in the draft so to get him for two second round picks or whatever it was that’s like a really really lowrisk proposition position for for Monty McNair and you know if if you’re Monty and you know that your coach would like a little bit more defense okay we’ll get you a guy who like at one point in his career was a good defensive player and we don’t know what he is but we’ll shake it out and see what happens you know we’ll bring him in and see what happens and he’s played with sabonis so he knows where to be and all that stuff I just think that for whatever reason like dwarte wasn’t able to pick up on the basic scheme of what was happen happening uh especially on the defensive end I I don’t think that like he struggled mightily on the defensive end and his like default setting was just a foul everybody especially early in the season I mean he couldn’t stay in a game early in the season and it just became more and more apparent that you had to stick with what what you knew and then maybe there would come another opportunity where Chris would slide back into the the rotation but then by that point he had to give Keon Ellis a look because you had some injury issues and he played extremely well and he kind of slid up above dwte in the pecking order so I I I don’t think that that dwarte was was a uh was a Mike Brown I mean it could be that that uh Monty McNair was out looking for guys who he thought would be two-way players that would help Mike and then you just stumbled upon one that really didn’t work out that well well you mentioned him I was going to say does that get classified as a win now even though it happened a couple years ago and I was going to say Keon Ellis because Keon Ellis became a revelation in the second half of this season he’s not a new player he was drafted whatever but I mean that’s that’s M that’s Monty McNair right there you know and sure and he got his opportunity really through injury this past you know second half of the season so I I’ll ask you both a question then so let’s let’s let’s stick with that if if it wasn’t dwarte at the beginning of the year with Kevin hder and Mike Brown and it was Keon and let’s let’s like I know Chris got injured but let’s let’s go with Keon stays healthy does anyone think the season’s different if Keon ell if Keon Ellis is the guard that Mike goes with instead of Kevin herder at the beginning of the Season he was like oh I was just trying stuff out I don’t know why everyone’s all worked up having Chris DTE start what if it wasn’t Chris DTE though it was Keon Ellis he goes out there plays the way that he does and it’s like hey maybe we got something here yeah I mean based on the way he played absolutely I think the season you think the season’s different yeah absolutely James I think so too yeah I mean you gotta remember like I know it was that strange stat like Keon started his career like 0 and seven or I mean s and0 or 8 and0 yeah as a starter um yeah I kind of feel like sure but I also so Keon was undrafted and not last summer but the summer before he’s only a second-year player and this first year he spent on a two-way and then last year he was a two-way until the Midway point in the season um I think that’s a huge win for Monty McNair and I think Keegan Murray is a huge win for Monty McNair because you know whether Kegan becomes like the the star player that they think he like what they think he’s going to be which has been since the day that they drafted him they’ve had envisions of you know really an All-Star level player but if he if even if he doesn’t reach that if he if he kind of TAPS out at like 17 18 points but you know a plus plus Defender and a solid rebounder and a great three-point shooter if that’s where he lands like there are a lot of players in the top five of the draft that don’t work out at all I mean I I don’t know if Jaden ivy can reach that that Pinnacle that I just talked about at all all and he’s not the only one I don’t know Jabari Smith Jr will reach that like they that draft in particular is is one thing but like through the the course of history I mean we all REM remember Deen Fox was the number five pick in the draft but like Josh Jackson was number four so like yeah Monty McNair had a like at least a really solid double with with Keegan Murray and and maybe even a home run uh and we’re going to have to wait and see how we all work works out how it works out on the end but um yeah I don’t think Monty has like he does need another winner to but I I also think that he’s had some really really nice solid additions to this roster yeah two things Jaden I’s gonna be just fine he’s still going to be a very very good basketball player too I wasn’t trying to discard Monty McNair’s entire ten year with Sacramento no your your question was perfectly fine you said when was the last one yeah I agree in about a year yeah I I feel like you could you could you could Point all of those out and then if I was being a jerk which I’m not trying to be I’ll also point out like Glenn Robinson that was Monty McNair I’ll point out the great Hassan Whit side that was Monty McNair also again was a bidding war there’s there wasn’t there was there’s context to that that’s extremely important and it was like Monty McNair had been a general manager for like an hour and a half before he had to start steining guys and that’s you know who it wound up being but I’m I’m more looking like all right you know kind of you really like to let these trade deadlines come and go and you know free agency wasn’t Super Active last year so there’s you know you’ve got you’ve got fans looking around at the likes of Kyle kma or or um uh Zack LaVine and whether that’s realistic or not I don’t know you know we’re all watching Malik Monk and there’s a lot there no I I think so too and I think you can uh like someone brings up Mitchell at number nine like look I don’t know that that that’s going to end up being well I mean it’s already hasn’t ended up being like a phenomenal pick like that he’s still on the roster he’s still in the rotation but he was in and out of the rotation this year and and he may or may not be part of the plan moving forward um you know and you can also look at sort of the Dante Devan chenzo situation and how that didn’t work out uh how that really just comes across weird at this this point oh it was weird the whole thing with Dante is weird no it was it was but but the the and we’re doing because I understood your original question was like when was the last one he had right and you got to go back a little while but if we’re gonna dissect the whole thing like what is Kevin herder is he considered a win or a loss you know what I mean because what he did in that first year is a win by a land slide but now you look at where he’s at I I look ATN also yeah it’s also what do you believe was Kevin herder is is Kevin herder last year you know minus the the injury of course is that Kevin herder or you know it’s all is that Dave Hepner or is that Dave Hepner is that Kevin herder last year or is Kevin hurder the the the the Warriors playoff year is that Kevin hder like which one is it yeah I think and and I think that dictates whether you think it’s a win or a loss because either he got lucky and lightning in a bottle and this is who he is and this is who you’re stuck with or he had a down year and you expect him to be closer to what he was the year before I think it’s tough like with Kevin and Kevin was the first I give him a win for that too you also I think it it’s it’s TBD to be honest he talked about it in his post his postseason like exit interview Kevin did that you know he had the best season of his career the year before and then he had like a sub stantial falloff he knew he wasn’t nearly as as efficient or anything else as he was a year before and he said he’s going to try to get back to being the player was before if he’s a player that comes in 14 15 points shoots 40% from three draws a bunch of attention I think he can totally rehab who he is and all that stuff but um I want to see number one do the kings keep him this offseason or do they they move on from him and what do you get in return I want to see too what happens with that draft pick and how badly does that hurt you um because that’s still up in the air we still don’t know what that is um it could either be next year or it could be the year after and and if you don’t make the playoffs in the next two years it dissolves into two second round picks so again that’s something where you’re you’re trying to gauge the value of what you got for that player so I I kind of want to give it more time before I say it’s a thumbs up or a thumbs down if you would have asked me last season I would have thought it was like an easy win but you asked me after that after the season we just went through and I no I don’t think it is I mean he didn’t play up to the standard of a player that you traded a first- round pick for and that’s so that’s tough but I’m still gonna give him that little bit of time and I also I want to know if you’re able to go get something else this offseason using Kevin hder as a trade chip or if you don’t if he’s able to rehab himself and come back and have a really strong season you know I I think two years of one was great and one 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in the pi that’s funny that’s not awkward that’s hilarious I gotta go see bad boys man that’s getting a lot of love I don’t know when I’m gonna go see that one I don’t know I don’t know if it’s gonna happen James doesn’t even get on Instagram so he doesn’t know who we spent part of the weekend with nope no I don’t see oh the things you miss out on by not logging into James hamor NBA never never who the oh who Matt Matt was like yeah I gotta get better with Instagram so I uh I tagged I I added Matt as a collaborator on that picture we took so me you Matt and Kevin and it’s like the nights going by hey can I get in the Discord so I’m sending Matt I was like Matt open Instagram go to the messages you’ve got a message from me click the accept Button he’s like okay done I was like great now now now now now you’re added as a collaborator on the picture got to get Matt and names up on their social media game wild I believe in I was told one time when I was at NBC by a social media specialist hey you’re really good at Twitter just stick with that and don’t worry about the other stuff it’s a good idea yeah he I’m better Instagram he’s like whatever you’re good at do do that and then if we can add some other stuff we will but don’t get too caught up in it all right yeah I completely understand that did you see some of the uh updates for the iPhone I haven’t I know that was uh that was today right yeah I just saw a couple I think a lot of it is AI isn’t it I don’t know I just saw what they were doing with the text messages know some cool stuff which is what like uh for instance the the quick response you know the double tap quick response you can now use like any Emoji you want as opposed to the like five responses they have huh stuff like that be a lot of middle fingers flying James ham I’m going to Cabo in July middle finger all you get is this that is the that is the the custom James response is thumbs up yeah the yellow Simpsons thumbs up yep yep we’re coming back Amry that is very much uh for the radio audience a window into life texting James ham is the nine and a half times out of 10 you’re just going to get a thumbs up response and that’s going to be your entire interaction with James through text messages or emojis well like the videos no the little s some yeah and I’m usually on on point with those they’re good yeah you killed Kenny a couple of days ago I think in the [Laughter] gift that’s funny lots of Thumbs Up from James that’s yeah that’s the C you could put you could put thumbs up on Instagram comments oh well James sticks to Twitter I’m just saying like I’m I’m trying to get our guy James you know on his IG see IG can be for the personal this could be to get to know James ham you know the the other guy well that’s what I’ve used it for for the most part like on occasion I put King stuff up there but one of my favorite things ever was James post you know you’re going on a vacation post some pictures so James took like all of the pictures he took and made a collage and just posted one picture like here it is guys here’s my vacation picture Fedora ham out here on the cruise that’s right that’s right right see I had a nice hat on this weekend James if you had Instagram if you looked at Instagram you would have seen it no I have to look you look after the show I don’t want you to have a oh no I can multitask go ahead I want you to have a random response Bo oh yeah okay I got it see all right James is in on the bit now James I’m in on the bit now yeah um all right I feel like we worked through mo mo most of the Sasha stuff [Music] um we just kind of went back and forth on whether like he really had a chance here I was curious though James what a second season for Sasha VZ zenov would have looked like uh for Sacramento what it would looked like for him um I can’t say like I’m broken up if this news if this news turns out to be true and he winds up either playing elsewhere or just going back to Europe but I was I was curious I wanted to see what it would look like yeah I don’t hate hate it either like first of all he’s such a smart basketball player and like the guy just magically shows up underneath the basket all alone all the time and people throw the ball to him for little layups um I thought he was a better rebounder than advertised I thought there are moments where he was a better Defender than what we thought um like I I was here for the Sasha experience plus I think he’s a good dude like I I hung out with him quite a few times I talked to him quite a few times he’s one of the few guys who are in the locker room all season long and I just think he’s a good guy that that realistically was in he he’s in a little over his head like he doesn’t have it it’s one thing to come over as like a 20year old from from Europe and you know maybe your parents come over maybe somebody comes with you right and and you’re learning the language and all that stuff but you’re acclimating and you’re around a bunch of 20y olds it’s a whole other thing when you’re like a season veteran who has had massive success and you come over and it’s almost like well like what are you here like because you’re not you’re not famous here you’re not that guy that that we saw playing in Europe you’re you’re here in our game now and you know I think the kings are like a welcoming group and I think he built friendships and stuff like that but at the same time that’s a lonely world like you’re you you can build friendships when you’re on the road and when you’re at practice and all that stuff but once you go home from practice Like An Empty Apartment is an empty apartment and so I think it it got a little of that got to him and then the injuries once he got hurt I think he had never gone through that either and so when you mix already being homesick with homesick and you’re not able to play you’re not able to hang out you’re not be able to you know do all the things that you you would typically do I think it wore on them pretty pretty heavily and so I don’t I would like to see what he looks like in a year or two but I wouldn’t like that with the same mix of players around him I don’t think it’s fair to him just like I tell you guys all the time like damont Sodus is is one of the most like dominant players in the NBA and people keep asking like why can’t he block shots better why can’t he be better at this or that it’s like how about you just get the players around him that that support those those areas like build the team around him that that you know get him a top Locker or two that plays the three and the four um get him more spacing get him another Creator on the court those things can help him and I I feel the same way about you know again like the combination of herder and Barnes I think it worked for one year but in year two like I don’t think defensively they were able to hold up together as a combo and with Sasha like who is he supposed to play with like if it’s him and Trey Lyles on the front line together that’s not great if you slide them over to the small forward position I don’t think that worked I I think that he needed like if you had a Jeremy Grant and you can run him and Sasha together on a front line with sabonis or some other like athletic player at the five then maybe you’re on to something but just I think the mix of players and everything else it it’s going to be really difficult for him moving forward here if this is if it’s run it back 3.0 do you it’s a dreadful thought running back three I don’t love that idea I know I know how you I don’t love that yeah I don’t I don’t love it I know I know you don’t but I’m a little more accepting of it than others if it happens um when you talk about like Sasha not wan to be here and maybe didn’t work with the Kings and all this other stuff I mean what are the the possibilities not just like salary cap wise but just you know realistically like all right you don’t want to be here you don’t have to retire like we’ll trade you we’ll put you in a trade like why why um why do you think some of the reports went to he’s just gonna go back like why why wasn’t it like maybe requested a trade or you know once the part ways or something like that well I think both of them were both of the reports left the opportunity for him to stay in the NBA like up for grabs I I just like it’s not going to be easy like there aren’t a bunch of situations that are just going to be way better for him and that’s part of the problem you know you need to find the right situations for him and I think that goes with most players in the NBA but like specifically I mean he’s almost 29 years old like he’s kind of like getting this started really late and at the same time he’s kind of wasting his time like his his Prime on a NBA bench when he could be a star in Europe if you understand what I’m saying I’m not saying like this is just like a horrible idea for him and he shouldn’t have come over what I’m saying is that like if you’re sitting here and you’re Sasha and you’re like okay I like best case scenario I might be like an eighth or ninth man on some other team do I want that or do I want to go back to Europe and maybe as a 29y old 30y old 31y old have an opportunity to win an MVP again and if I’m him I wouldn’t want to waste more of my time with this experience if you don’t think it’s going to yield like something much better for you outside of monetary value because he gets paid way more here than he does in Europe um but I I definitely if I’m him I would like to get back and start my career up again where I found massive success as opposed to like wait this thing out but again I’m not saying he’s leaving I’m not saying that that like this thing is over and I’m not convinced that he won’t be on the Kings next year we don’t have enough information right now to say say any of that stuff and so again I think like the tweets that we saw they’re pretty presumptive and they also didn’t capture the nuances of anything that is the NBA as far as salary cap and as far as like what this means for him if he if he tries to go back to Europe you know he needs compliance from the Kings to go back and play in Europe just like the Kings needed compliance from him and to get him out of his his contract in Europe to come over it’s kind of the same thing so I would like to I would like to see how this thing plays out a little bit further I’m I’m just talking to Kenny James hang on a second you know what I think I think James got a text when those reports went out and said that’s all Bs don’t believe any of that like he’s talking with with such Au Authority on this subject I feel like James knows something I mean he’s connected I mean that’s why John and Connecticut listens to him that’s why that’s why he doesn’t text oo and KC he text James H okay back with James ham James you could ignore all of that stuff wor about it that’s that’s why he’s he’s not The Insider uh for no reason um in all fun of course do you depending on the report you believe whether you believe either of the reports you think the Kings have their eye on something else already like if if like hey you know work out something with Sasha do do you think they’re do you think they got something on the horizon and I would hope so I would hope so because look I like I mentioned this before I I talked about it with Kyle earlier um you can’t sign a free agent you can’t start negotiating with a free agent of your own your own free agent until the day after the finals right the finals end whether it’s in four or whether it’s actually you can now you can start negotiating with your own free agent on day one the Kings from what I know like Malik monk knows that if he wants to come back to Sacramento it’s on a fouryear $78 million deal and I’m sure there’s an option after a year or two like he knows exactly what he’s getting in Sacramento and like I I have it on good authority like the Kings can’t negotiate with him right now but like there’s an understanding that he is going to get whatever the max they could pay him if he comes back right well the day after the finals end you can start negotiating that contract he can’t negotiate with anyone else just you and so you have this window the reason bring this up is that doesn’t mean that right now today as we speak the Kings can’t be on the phone with every team in the league trying to trade people so there there’s always communication especially like right now you have players that are under contract you can go negotiate a a trade with a with another NBA team today like you they could have a deal already worked out for the number 13 pick and and the number the 2027 and 29 and 31 pick and salary filler for player X they can already have that deal worked out and then just when we get closer past the finals closer to the the NBA draft or closer to free agency that you announce a trade that you’ve already been working on so like that’s where I don’t think we know what exactly is transpired here because it’s possible that SAS has already been told that like hey we’re working on a deal to send you somewhere else and that that’s totally possible and it’s feasible because I mean he’s he’s like for better lack of better terms he’s like their property as an NBA player at this point so they can like negotiate trades with him um and so maybe there is something Brewing maybe that’s what we’re kind of seeing is sort of this spill out in a different way uh but I don’t know like I don’t like contradictory reports an hour apart in Europe uh because I like my experience is that they don’t always prove out and and not only that but they also a lot of times they don’t understand the nuances of NBA CBA uh like contractual things um because European just for sake of argument so you guys understand like European soccer if you’re a player on a team and you don’t want to play for that team anymore and you want to play for a different team that team can come to you and give you an offer and and work out like an entire salary for the next year and then they have to go to your team and work out like a buyout so they can you know that’s a transfer fee that’s what you hear transfer fees in soccer so again like European Sports in general the way they handle contractual stuff is totally different than here so there’s possibilities that some that something here is already in place but there’s also a possibility that somebody’s a little loss in Translation on what the NBA like salary cap looks like and what it means for a player like Sasha um I thought there was a pretty good question that I was trying to think through and I’m not sure hopefully you got the answer for um by in the Matthews mattress shatty house by Shortcake 182 who asked in what circumstances can we not discuss trades talking about like the Kings like when they got in trouble regarding the bogey trade and I think I’m trying to figure that out like I think they got in trouble I think the Bucks got in trouble that’s what wasn’t bogey or that was a signning trade and he was a free agent so isn’t that why that was like a tampering that was a tampering situation not discussing the trade right yeah it was a little different so if I’m not mistaken it’s before they inserted the rule that you could negotiate with your own free agent before like before the the free agency window open so this whole thing where you can negotiate with your own free agent it’s only a couple years old um it just got put in and it might have even been last year where they put this in so what happened that in that situation is the Kings had Alle allegedly like had a conversation with bogdanovich about his salary demands and and again the Kings could have had that conversation before the season ended because you’re allowed to have those conversations during the season like hey what’s going to take to keep you this summer right like let’s just talk let’s just put the number on the table the Kings actually had a right with him at that point to extend him they could have actually I’m gon have to go back and remember that one fully but the problem with they had there is you can’t sign and trade a player for other players to another team when you’re not allowed to negotiate that contract already got me so so they’re they’re technically can’t be an AG an agreement in place for the Kings to sign bogdanovich at that point MH and and then to trade him because that contract would have to have been basically negotiated by the Bucks yeah that became like a really really weird situation and a lot of finger pointing and a lot of whose fault was this type deal um that that deal should have never leaked out it leaked out what two days before the draft and blew up the whole thing and then right at the last second the Kings had to redo everything like their their entire plan going forward and and then they end up losing bogdanovich uh in that uh when he gets the the Atlanta um like offer sheet he they end up planing the Bucks are the only team that got punished out of that right Sacramento didn’t get punished for that yeah because if I’m not mistaken because I um because bonovich was a restricted free agent and still basically under the king’s umbrella they could actually negotiate with him the Bucks were not allowed to negotiate with him beforehand and they certainly weren’t able to work out a full-fledged trade beforehand although they could have they just didn’t need to have it be announced if that wouldn’t have got anounced you mean leaking stuff to the media can prove detrimental to your ultimate goal yes wow who would have known yeah shout out Danley yeah there you go that got weird didn’t it yes that that that that absolutely got weird that is that is uh that is uh DeAndre Jordan levels of free agency weird like that was odd I agree I agree and now like so what happens when like JJ’s phone rings or like James bga’s phone rings and it’s it’s Rob in Los Angeles on line you gonna hit him with the uh the big boy oh I know that ain’t who I think it is I know that a who I think it is calling me yeah like I hope you calling to offer six year 70 million that’s my first line if I’m either one of those coaches the money’s out there now I think it is six years $70 million like let let me know if it’s me or if it’s you know I’m JJ let me know if it’s it’s me or if it’s James VGA because I’m ready to sign for six years $70 million because that’s the contract to be the Lakers head coach and then I would say where are your two national championships yeah sir I went to Duke we don’t need national championships okay I guess I’m about to offer you too y good luck finding a national championship coach to come here pal don’t thank me don’t good luck me I’ll talk to you later JJ whatever ho I’m calling the NBA finals I’m must see more NBA Finals over the in my career than you will rob wild our little role playing is is is evolved into like one of us one of us is gonna quit always within the second back and forth every time the real Kenny carway never escalates but if Kenny carway is playing a role man it goes south quick man I just love it when you call him a hoe that’s that that’s where you I wasn’t calling Kenny a hoe I was calling Rob p on beh of JJ that’s certainly what I would say I’m G see more NBA Finals than your ass is moving forward oh man but yeah price is gone up yeah price is gone up that’s an awkward call to make hey guys well you know it’s very awkward well maybe not as awkward because it’s only gonna be their first meeting each other well yeah it keeps getting worse man these this these the The Insider uh The Insider Wars are funny because right now it feels like everyone’s losing yeah even though W didn’t lose wge was right but it was the second tweet uh today that was like wait a minute JJ hasn’t interviewed with the Lakers yet come on meanwhile Shams is reporting he he he’s not only has he interviewed but he interviewed in person for a lengthy period of time so it’s like yo what the hell is this it’s wild all I like people are asking if I’ve been watching uh clipped you gotta come on James I’ve watched I’ve watched about half of the first episode okay first of all the acting is ridiculous it’s amazing the not only that but the the choices that they made to like for actors is spectacular I mean watching the the Donald Sterling dragging uh Blake Griffin around by the hand thing is just weird yeah like the whole thing is weird I I don’t know what’s happening like why is he holding his hand why is he allowing him to hold his hand like did this really happen is this wow if I’m Blake I’m like I’m suing everybody I’m like first of all that guy looks nothing like me well that’s where the suit comes from by the way Day thises clip come on I think it’s today it’s Monday I think so isn’t clip tonight I think clip is tonight episod come man I need that I need that if it’s not tonight it’s tomorrow but I think it’s tonight well the fourth was Tuesday so maybe it’s every Tuesday oh well that sucks it’s Tuesdays no well it could be nine o’clock our time there you go 901 there it is let’s go come on James you got time to catch up it’s just it’s just another episod oh it’s good James it’s good James it’s worth it uh we want a full recap tomorrow on the Insiders uh we’ll run it back next and we’ll see you here tomorrow beginning at 10 a on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 bantes well done team well done well done oh uh giant play tonight also John P can I use someone else’s log into Hulu to watch it John poles might not be able to watch where he’s at uh is John poles still there where is he he still wasn’t he in the Philippines no that was Rory oh Rory was in the Philippines yeah John PA John paes is just he’s like on stock Bou beating [ __ ] up just down the street Sean poles and all of his big ass friends tall people damn tall people John PA’s friends are like six4 then he have one little guy walking around with him that’s uh that’s Joe pesy he’s the craziest one of all of them uh all right you heard zbo everybody go check the Discord yeah John’s just in roll right on Big John um all right go ahead over to the Discord and we will see you guys tomorrow make sure Mrs mtan and and and and and and the rest of our crew in here got the Discord damn it all right man we’ll see y’all
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Would love to send Sasha and the 13 to Indiana for Nesmith
He’s better than Harrison Barnes I totally understand why he wants to leave Harrison Barnes couldn’t go to Europe and be the MVP🤔