Robert Saleh “on exact same page” as Rodgers, Sean Payton on critics, Can Mavs beat Celtics Game 3?

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(00:00) Mavericks need Game 3 win tonight against Celtics / Jerry West also known as the NBA logo passed away at 86

(24:08) Robert Saleh says that him and Aaron Rodgers “are on the exact same page” in regards to him missing mandatory minicamp

(33:36) Sean Payton on critics of him and the Broncos: “I have two middle fingers”

(38:07) Did Chris Simms rank Josh Allen too high? 2nd best QB in the NFL according to his list

(43:51) Jason Kidd says praising Jaylen Brown “wasn’t mind games”

(56:09) Joe Burrow speaks on recovering from injuries and preparing for this NFL season

(1:03:07) Who wins Game 3: Mavericks or Celtics?

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Sunday on Fox we have been waiting all year for this match up it’s the inaugural United football league championship kick it off baby let’s rock the Birmingham stallions aim to lock up their third consecutive title let go while the San Antonio rahas look to cap off their improbable run with a crown of their own wow this is going to be a fun one touchdown the 2024 UFL Championship Sunday at 5 Eastern on Fox live from New York it’s the show that will have several bets oh it’s a game of chance we borrowed this from the carton shows look at what he has bro well the carton shows it was sitting there I it’s one of those retroactive borrows like hey we borrowed this and and inside of this thing are several suggestions some of them Just Say Cash Money bet okay good we going be doing doesn’t sound great it could use a little oil it’s a little Tin Man oil no I don’t have be a bit aggravating throughout the show today will we see Luca magic tonight or more concerned from the person who calls him his large adult Slovenian son meanwhile Chris Sims controversial QB list Josh Allen comes in at number two will he have a season that justifies that high of a ranking I don’t think so and finally wow you’re the Josh Allen guy no I’m not oh sorry go ahead do you think where in the world is Aon r in IA or is he on vacation no one really knows but he’s not at me Bru too old that Crush for a certain generation were like you rockella it’s where in the world was Carmen San Diego he did that’s what Aaron Rogers cuz we don’t know where he is yeah we got who saying that rock capella let’s keep it that he sent you up and knocked you down buddy you you never heard that where in the world is Chris Bard’s kindness to me uh we start with game three M now favored by two and a half both teams looking for more points from their Stars Kyrie and Tatum two sound bites here first Kyrie and then Jason Tatum take a listen started with me um just telling my hermano just I got to play better for him along side them and um you know in order for us to um you know accomplish our goal uh we both have to be playing well I understand that it could take one game uh one game I could explode and you know all those the the percentage and things like that could change um so it’s just that mindset of you know I’m I’m one game away okay here’s their numbers so far both guys unb considerably below their season averages Tatum doing a little bit more other than scoring but someone on Twitter referred to those assists as Ben Simmons assists which I never heard up but I got well Chris manx said today to your buddy Bill Simmons that he thought four of them were scorekeeper gifts in game two theist that he said four of them were three dribble assists yeah and so you that they were watch I mean he go back I mean again that’s just yeah but go ahead all right so brw who’s under more pressure tonight Tatum or Kyrie I I don’t see how you could say anybody but Kyrie really well number one this is do or die for the Mavs right we we would all agree the Mavs if they lose tonight it’s over I mean they’re not coming back from a three series deficit all right so just that in and of itself like Tatum could have a bad game tonight and they win or I’m sorry and they lose and they’re still in control of the series at least until game four happens you know what I mean so just that in and of itself to me puts the most pressure on Kyrie also while Tatum hasn’t been very good MH Kai he hasn’t been as bad as Kyrie like Tatum is and I mean look I don’t know how you want to look at the assists but he’s averaging eight and a half assists a game that leads the series for both teams he’s averaging 10 rebounds that leads his team and I think his defense is solid I’m not saying he’s you know Dennis Rodman but he’s playing solid defense he’s just not hitting shots all right but he’s almost averaging a triple double 1710 and 8 and A2 so I’m not saying I’m not trying to act like oh he’s playing well nobody sees it I’m just saying he’s not in the ballpark of where Kyrie is Kyrie is not we know because of his size he is kind of a scorer now he’ll get you five assists or St not even doing that he’s getting you four assists but so I think he’s not playing nearly as bad Kyrie is viewed probably rightly as the reason the Mavs are down 02 because he is not holding up his end of the bar you’re not going to blame the role players they haven’t been horrible they haven’t been very good and Luca’s been playing fine so Kyrie’s viewed is that and then I’ll throw this in yeah the so-called curse of lucky like that that that’s what’s going around in Boston since he stomped on lucky to leprechaun he’s 0 and2 against the Celtics and so I just think that look I don’t know where you’re going Nick if people want to say Tatum’s the better player and Tatum you know so there’s more on the line for that I just think it’s Kyrie so I think 100% it’s Tatum wow so I listen obviously there’s more pressure on the Mavs than the Celtics that’s undeniable because it’s 2 so I agree with you in in that in that kind of window but there for me the Kyrie situation is so different than Jason tatums first of all there is a very obvious rational explanation for Kyrie Irving struggles the single best player in the league at Perimeter defense is guarding him so I’m not hold on brw let me just get through it if I may there is not that on the maps it’s not as if all of a sudden you have 2016 K uh Kawhi Leonard and it’s like okay so there’s a guy shutting you down so that’s the first point you can draw a direct line of it’s another great player doing a great job as opposed to with Tatum there’s no one on the Mavs that were like that guy is a great lock down individual perimeter Defender second point is the one you alluded to far more is expected from Jason Tatum far more is needed from not necessarily needed but he is the better player on his team so he’s held to a higher standard and then lastly and this is the one that I think is most important Kyrie already has a finals Legacy Kyrie already has multiple iconic finals games he has arguably inarguably one of and arguably the single biggest shot in the history of the NBA finals and so much of Kyrie’s Legacy and Legend is basically already cooked or in a good way like it’s already baked in his skill level his size his creativity his ball handling and so no matter what happens in this series no one is going to be able to come out of this series and be like you know what Kyrie Irving crumbles Under Pressure Kyrie Irving can’t handle the NBA Finals we can say he had a terrible finals we can say he cost his team but he already has something that cannot be taken away from him Jason Tatum on the other hand has gotten in my opinion up to this point like 15% of the heat that his play warrants because they’re up 20 if they if it was tied or if they were down 02 and these numbers were that he would be getting an crushed I think fairly and I know people bring up when we’re like What if he’s bad in these finals throughout what if he is back-to-back bad finals and people bring up and no and they lose and they lose uh and people bring up LeBron who lost his first two finals the first one didn’t play great and people didn’t kill him for it the second one played poorly and people did kill him for it I think that’s instructive Wilds because LeBron James who had two MVPs before that won two more and four more titles after that and went to eight more finals still has those finals thrown in his face so if Jason Tatum who right now this moment is the most inefficient shooter in finals history since the merger since modernish basketball continues to struggle and they lose and all of a sudden becomes a series of course it’s more pressure on him because Kyrie can only go so far backwards and Tatum meanwhile has no finals leg his only finals Legacy if you will is that he plays his worst basketball in it you made some good points but if they win I mean if let’s say he these numbers remain 17 10 and seven yeah all right and he takes it up a little he shoots 38% or whatever I mean he’s going to be a champion he’s going to be widely recognized as the best player on the championship team and I would say about LeBron the only reason or times that those two finals are brought up against him is in the goat debate that’s like otherwise I think otherwise that’s not true but no but but nobody’s holding it like nobody’s really holding it against LeBron to say oh he not not the first or well I say the first cuz he’s not the goat if they you know an argument but they don’t say they say he’s the second best so how much are you really holding it against him I think it only comes up in those debates so can I can I ask one other thing before we move on here the CU you so let’s go under that circumstance yeah because my point was tat won’t be in those debates no no no I no I’m talking about the if the Celtics win but Tatum plays poorly you know what I mean that he’s a so I’m not certain that that is as seamless from a human individual perspective as we are talking about I I the idea that if Jason Tatum plays very poorly but the Celtics win all is good for Jason Tatum I don’t think that is realistic to how alpha human human beings top level athletes operate yes he will be happy yes he would rather I believe play poorly and they win then him play well and they lose but it it would add a weird yeah but for him personally to this season and this series is that is that Larry Bird averaged nine points during a three- game stretch of his first championship Cornbread Maxwell was the MVP now bird has some good moments in weird that this is Tatum’s second finals that was B’s first like chalk the first one up to nerves or bad luck or just don’t have St I’m not saying we’ll just forget everything and you’re right it will F like if they make the finals again it will be like okay is Jason Tatum going to play well I just think the the series is in the balance tonight and Jason Tatum can play poorly and they lose and they’re still very much more than alive whereas if Kyrie plays poorly and they lose they’re done 30 points for Jason Tatum tonight is it okay you want to have a bet on it what yeah I’ll take the under yeah let’s have a bet on it okay go how does this work this is your silly bit how do we do it what are we doing you you’re just rolling that thing out there it’s not even on camera what’s the bet this is our first bet of the day okay it’s you versus me what is it what is it loser has to wear a shirt with the Winner’s face on it oh really yeah perfect I think that’s fair who is that the three says we both have that well you got him hit 30 yeah I got the under I’m under that too okay okay now we know there here we go so you have to wear with both of our faces I actually would like that I might wear that normally I wear that I wear that around uh Luca looks to be in pain in the pregame but then brings the pain during the game not bad averaging 3110 and six while shooting 51% from the field also under 50% on free throws that’s strange and has had 12 turnovers total here’s Luca on his health first I feel good I don’t want to get any more details uh but I feel good okay short and sweet does luuka need to do more so I have a prediction wild sure I the the turnovers he has to cut down on I’m not excusing them and the free throws like you said it’s weird it’s also six of 13 so it’s a small sample he missed four in a row at one two games no it is two games but I’m saying the I I don’t think he’s going to shoot 50% on free throws but there’s no excusing that I understand but the commentary or dissection or critique about how he’s playing offensively aside from the turnovers I think is going to shift tomorrow and I think he’s going to play the exact same way the difference is guys will make their shots I think that all of a sudden if we track the numbers we are going to see game two passes dribbles field goal attempts versus game three that they end up being very similar or in line with the pace of the game but people say oh oh Luca got his teammates involved tonight and the answer what that means is Kyrie hit a three instead of being 0 for 0 for8 Derek Jones Jr hit a three uh the PJ Washington hit a three and it feels more like because right now the Mavs are shooting 8% other than Luca on open or wide openen threes and that is leading to my opinion a circular commentary of Luca needs to do more to get his teammates involved when in reality they’re just missing shots so I think yes he does need to do more scoring wise I think he has to average 30 he can average 32 and win this series no I think I think the rest of the way he’s got average 35 um and I think he can I think he’s shown he can but I think the people aren’t really criticizing that he’s not scoring enough people are criticizing that he’s not getting his teammates involved more and I don’t think it’s a fair criticism and I think it’s just a fact due to miss shots he had 11 assists last game with guys missing so I’m with you and that the critique game one and even the one assist was a lot of that was due to miss shots but also it was a due to them adjusting to okay they’re not doubling me at all all right so how are we going to work how we going to play this way throughout the series but look he’s doing I think he’s doing enough to win he’s basic what 31 uh six assists and over 10 rebounds he’s leading the series and scoring in rebounds to ask a guy to average more than 31 in 10 is pretty hard so I think the question is not does he need to do more but can he do more okay and I would say he can and we glossed over it I don’t know why cuz of free throws dude is shooting 46% no that’s a big free throws are points they lost by seven like an outlier he’s not a good free throw shooter but 46% I know but why why are you only shooting 46% on but what what is he for his the% that’s not terrible he not leag League average it’s an average or a great player who’s a guard who can shoot below Aver should be shooting better than 75% okay all right and so he’s not a great free throw shooter but this is big they lost last game by seven he missed four free throws let’s say he makes three of them I think it can be contagious you see they’re not a good free throw shooting team period they’re last in the playoffs in in free throw shooting they’re bottom four in the regular season in free throw shooting that’s a problem when games are close and you can’t hit free throws that is an issue so he if Nick if he’s shooting 75% from free from the free throw line maybe they would have won that game because you can’t just say oh it’s more you know what I mean so I think he can do better than that and I do think the one thing is the usage rate that’s a little high it it went down to 31 in the in the first three rounds now it’s back up to 36 so that’s where you can kind of get more guys involved so here’s what Kevin Looney told Draymond and this is not just me it just happens to line up exactly with what I think play Rashad mcc’s quote next you don’t like having Looney champion no I I I I appreciate what he is as a player I don’t I don’t the the you like he’s speaking as appeal to Authority fallacy here might be what do you want me to do you want me to say a guy on this my goad what do you want to say go ahead let’s hear it I might trust I got coming in the back end I think he needs to get his roll guys a little more involved in the first half I know as a roll guy in the first quarter if you don’t get a layup or a dunk or something to get you going you get a little tense and later in the game you’re not going to be able to shoot the ball as well so then Josh authority figure on the show this is first quarter shooting Luca is 8 for 14 great Kyrie 6 for 10 great they are superstars PJ Washington three for five Derrick Jones got three total shots Gafford has two total shots one of them just a put back dump yeah well that’s well by the way all of gafford’s shots the reason he shot one hold on what did Daniel Gafford shoot in the Conference Finals does anyone know cuz I do 100% well you why because they are all dunks and lobs you know what I mean and so that is that to me is a Joe Missoula Celtic stat about what they’re taking away and here is the reason that I am just and I I’m not trying to be disrespected with Kavon Looney uh or to you Kevin Wilds but if there were a bunch of instances of hey look at this guy who was wide open that Luca didn’t give it to we’d have it no I’m talking scheme wise well I’m not I’m not talking about a decision that to make snap right away on kids that’s what I’m saying I don’t believe that that it can be boil here I think there’s two schools of thought one Luca is doing everything these guys need to make shots or two Luka can be a force multiplier and help these guys get better if you’re saying that’s impossible I disagree they’re off part of why he makes people better is when he draws double teams same thing for Kyrie and Boston is saying we’re not doubling so now he can either pass it to a guy that’s single coverage that other than Kyrie can’t create his own shot or I mean but it’s hard to adjust off at this point now right now it’s a Personnel thing right now in my op opinion the Celtics have made a bet that even if we single cover Luca he’s not going to torch us for 40 plus and so it’s worth it that’s why I’m saying for them to win I didn’t think going into the series Luca would have to average 35 for them to win it or else I wouldn’t have picked them to win it you know in five but with how they’re guarding him with the fact that they are basically saying we are not giving any of your Ro guys anything easy at The Rim what you give up in that if you’re Boston is Luca is going to have better looks than he typically gets because they’re not blitzing him and they’re not doubling him so because of that he has to score more I think and even as he’s playing though if Kyrie were playing well that’s the right% of his capacity they might’s almost separate from this get stop and get a you know get out on transition okay we’re going to end with some sad news out of the NBA Jerry West has passed away at the age of 86 14 time Allstar as a player the architect of some of the best teams in league history as an executive basketball Ambassador around the world in literally the League’s logo Brew how will you remember Jerry West man I mean I I knew Jerry pretty well you know from covering the league for almost 30 years I used to talk to him a lot he was one of my favorite people to talk to on the phone he loved talking about what’s going on around the league and all that so I’ll remember him in that way obviously I didn’t see him as a player but I studied him and studied his numbers and in his career Nick I’ve got him as the third best shooting guard ever behind Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant and I I think he I mean it’s fair to say he’s like a basketball genius because he obviously was a great player and then in the front office I mean he helped build the showtime Lakers he you know got Shaq as a free agent to come to La he drafted Kobe or or traded for Kobe when Kobe was drafted 13th Kobe did not come out of high school like no where it was like oh it’s a no BR he was drafted 13th but Jerry West saw this kid is special and then when he went to Memphis and Golden State and the Clippers he’s always had success so I really liked him a lot like I said he was one of my favorite people to talk to in the league and uh I’ll miss him and and this is like the NBA is going to miss and we know he’s the logo but like that’s not an overstatement I mean Jerry West was just ubiquitous with the NBA really there’s a very strong argument to be made that over the last 60 years there is not a single person that has had more impact on the events of the NBA than Jerry West there’s you know I’m not trying to like do a who is more important what you know whatever it is but from when when he set foot on the court for the Lakers to you know a couple drafts ago like his finger Prince being all over the league uh and I think everyone knows I think more people know about his impact off the court front office Showtime Lakers sha all of that the famous moment when he’s at the draft running the Grizzlies and they’re either going to get LeBron or nothing that they know they they know the logo what I don’t know if people quite recognizes what an absolute badass of a player he was so I want him to say it in his own words and and then I’m going to Rattle off some jaw-dropping numbers for you if we could here’s Jerry West talking about himself competitive people the word dogs comes up a lot that guy’s a dog that guy well I was a wolf okay I used to eat dog and that is definitively true just and again I’m going to throw a lot of numbers at you very quickly but he was 10 time first team all NBA that’s the same amount of times as Michael Jordan or Kem Abdul Jabar the tied for the fourth most he’s the greatest player ever without an MVP it’s kind of shameful he didn’t have one I think got robbed in 1970 but he did finish top five eight times and finished second four times and finishing second of course is something of what he’s associated with seven consecutive finals losses one of them in 1970 is seventh straight finals loss actually uh call in game three he hit one of the greatest shots in NBA history to force overtime with a second left which I think we can show you from 55 feed out we’ll show it to you at some point here it is down two in the finals game three bang Jerry West in the NBA Finals 10 times scored 40 points only LeBron and Michael have more than five Jerry has the mess Jerry West in the NBA Finals eight times played 48 or more minutes and how did he lose those finals in 1962 he lost in a game seven in overtime by three in 1966 he lost in a game seven by two in 1969 in a game seven with a pulled hamstring he had 42 13 and 12 and lost by two all of those to Bill Russell that last one winning Finals MVP he then lost a game he lost the Willis Reed game despite dropping 31 and then of course he finally won at 1972 if he had never spoke of basketball again after he retired he’d be one of the most important greatest players ever and instead he added 50 years of greatness in the front office and he’s the leading scorer in the finals more points than anybody else only guy ever to win in the MVP and a losing effort so he’ll be missed for sure uh Jerry West was 86 we’ll be right back Sunday on Fox we have been waiting all year for this match up it’s the inaugural United football league championship kick it off baby let’s rock the Birmingham stallions aim to lock up their third consecutive title let go while the San Antonio rahas look to cap off their improbable run with a crown of Their Own wow this is going to be a fun one touchdown the 2024 UFL Championship Sunday at 5 Eastern on Fox Jets mini camp day two was snowing no this is an old file footage uh Aaron Rogers still not there Diana Rini writing Aaron Rogers is skipping all Jets mandatory mini camp this week because he prefers to be somewhere else away from football that’s his choice literally perfect tweet wow here’s Robert Salah did you have any contact with him like talk to him after after between yesterday and today no I haven’t Tyrod said he had only found out that morning is there any reason that wasn’t communicated to him before or no uh it’s it’s a one-on-one uh conversation it’s not something that the team needed to know about Aaron and I are on the exact same page um there’s no issue uh between Aaron or his teammates for that matter um so like I said we addressed it yesterday it’s not it’s it’s more of an issue for for everyone outside the building his inside and um and that’s about it okay how do you know how do you know how do you know his teammates are cool with it I’m just curious because the teammates didn’t know about it until yesterday Tyrod didn’t know about it and I I mean fun little fun uh fact the last quarterback to starting quarterback to be fined for missing mandatory mini camp unexcused was anybody anybody Rogers oh with the Green Bay Packers in 2021 which speaks to a couple things one is it hasn’t happened with any other starting quarterback in the last three years and also Aaron at least at that point in time was sandwiched right between League MVP years and he you know not so subtly wanted more money there was you know Rift with the organization you get it uh even if you don’t love it you it at least makes more sense and this idea like I I now I have had to listen to people go on and blame Robert Salah I actually feel badly for Robert Salah in this spot he’s got he’s there is no right answer here which is clearly some people within the organization or teammates don’t love this or else you just call it excused and if all of a sudden there’s not going to be a fight people are like ah there going to be a fight with the Union about it no there’s not the union is the one who tries to people from getting fined that wouldn’t be a problem it’s like oh well then Assan reic might get M ass reck’s not even really on the team yet you’re not worried about that so someone thinks it’s a big enough deal that Aaron Rogers is reportedly on vacation rather than being at mtor mini camp which is why they’re doing it publicly and I listen I I really like and respect Mike Greenberg but I had to listen to Mike Greenberg go on Aaron Rogers talk show of choice today and say that quote Aaron has done everything right up to this point huh the Jets had to make contingencies in real time of what are we going to do if our quarterback runs for vice president the Jets are not allowed to pick their own offensive coordinator because of this guy and now they’re not allowed to have the same mini camp that every other team in the league gets to have because he’s on vacation and we’re saying that it’s Robert Sol fault for what for not lying about it that’s what we’re saying Brew is that Robert solah should have lied that he should have gotten up there and been like guys it’s excused everyone’s on the same page it’s fine it’s a personal matter for Aaron no he shouldn’t have and so I I find the whole thing ludicrous you can see how uncomfortable Salah is in his press conferences I mean I I agree with you in that Salah has done nothing wrong okay he’s the one that’s got to get up here and put a a nice face on this mess okay now there reporting coming out that Rogers planned a trip during rehab when he was rehabing and didn’t know exactly when you know mini camp was going to be so what you didn’t want to get the change fee it’s like I’m just saying this is the this is legitimate reporting that is out there and that it’s not excused because you can’t excuse a trip that’s what the reporting is out there now that with all respect to the reporters sounds like spin of course that sounds like spin because you’re exactly right first of all Rogers had an idea I don’t know if he knew they would have known the exact dates of the mini camp at that time but he had an idea of when it takes when it takes place right and so and even if it did conflict like you said you got enough money to change the make it’s two days you can change the trip so this is flights into the Great New York City area oh okay good point we had Ephraim Salam who played 15 years in the league as an offensive lineman on our show the eye couple last night right and he said that if he were a veteran playing and he said he believes the veterans are bothered by this of course now the young kids who still look up to Aaron Rodgers and maybe they’re not but the veterans are like look I had to come here and work for these two days you you going to be on vacation it’s two days look I don’t think it’s going to ruin the way he plays if he has a bad year it’s not going to be because of this if he has a great year obviously this this wouldn’t matter but it sets a bad tone it makes you look hypocritical yes and and the veterans got they’re men I don’t care how good you are they’re grown men can I tell you here’s a I understand that line of thinking and Connor Hughes had this tweet and I’ll just it’s a long tweet but I’ll just focus on the bottom part uh Roger missing two days after being at every on her will have zero impact on what the Jets and Rogers accomplished this then why have it so I agree either a why have it and why we had Dusty make a list of all the quarterbacks that are at mini camp so you can argue that it’s not a huge deal but to all of these guys who are busy and have other things well so Trevor’s not there because excuse right well they excused a bunch of veterans in Jacksonville but it’s everyone Jacksonville decided to make it more about young guys and then it’s every other starting quarterback and these guys are all there yeah so if it’s not going to affect the Jets is it going to affect the Seahawks because Gino’s there everybody’s there except you so you can’t tell me like the whole thing you can’t be on a vacation can I throw out a you cannot be on vacation so one thing that people have wondered floral maybe most notably but I tend to agree that it’s a legitimate question and one thing that OS sensibly the Jets do deserve to be criticized for is since all the reporting is they have known about this for quite some time to not have this come out a month ago right so and it doesn’t really make a lot of sense why wouldn’t you say at some point during OTAs yeah you know and by the way you know we know Aaron’s not going to be able to be at mini camp and then it’s a story but at least when mini Camp’s going on people already know it so here’s the theory they were hoping he’d change his mind oh that’s a good take that the reason they had to wait until he actually didn’t show up is the whole time it’s been we’d still love Aaron we’d love to have you if there’s anything we you know what I mean you want to use what he’s playing like not sure where you’re you know we can is there a way okay we know you’re not going to be there but you know we let’s just see you know leave the door open it’s the only explanation as to why they didn’t get ahead of it was they were hoping that he would change his mind and then mini camp opens he hasn’t and now Robert Salah has to be like two guys not here the guy who didn’t want us to trade for him unless we gave him a contract and the quarterback who our entire offseason’s been built around so the can I tell you one other odd angle to this where is he he’s somewhere on vacation well then just say the word vacation you said the word event we don’t know what that means Salah seems like he knows he’s not like does he think you know what the New York media I’m sure they’re going to let this one lie I’m say this one’s never going to the New York media The Brew you you’ve been lecturing me for years about how tough those bullies of the back page are today there wasn’t a Rogers question asked Back Pages were good the back pages were good but there were three Rogers questions asked in a 12-minute press conference and not one of them was where is he right that’s what is the event and and and then and now maybe Salah would have said I’m not saying but you have to ask it Colin is reporting and Colin much like me is like not a reporter but when he reports something it’s basically always correct because he only he’s not reporting very often um he said he’s on an international vacation that’s what he said and so I don’t know if that’s you know if that’s to Europe South America I don’t know there you know there’s a lot of countries you could be going to good point no problem UMES but that’s that’s what he’s saying but it’s it’s absurd it’s it’s just two days it’s two thank you and you have nothing to do till when you can expect and your vacation on the back end I mean it’s just ter okay leave him alone I knew that was going to come I knew that Broncos open up their season in Seattle trying to bounce back from an eight- n Season which saw pton part ways with Russell Wilson does pton have a chip on his shoulder well yes and no take a listen I have two middle fingers um I’ve gotten better with age not using them I don’t play a lot of video games but you got x amount of battery life and energy and and you try to use it where you think it’s uh it’s best going to help the team if that concerned me we wouldn’t have drafted B Knicks you know where we selected them you know if I was paying attention to that okay wind total is at five and a half your reaction to the either the video game yeah not how video games work but I’ll set that aside that’s fine um man I I try to be a confident fellow I’ve sometimes been called overconfident well I aspire to have the confidence of Shawn pyton man I mean there a lot of checks once again being written like this time last year and last year all the checks bounced and in fact one of them had an $87 million overdraft fee in the term of Russell Wilson’s dead money so we’ll see if this one goes differently what I will tell you is this if if Brew is correct and Brew is not the only one that Russell Wilson is going to be more than serviceable for a potential above 500 maybe Fringe playoff team Steelers that doesn’t look great for Shawn Payton and if well to be light about it the entire football world’s correct that Bo Knicks wasn’t a first round pick and 12 was crazy that’s not going to look great for Shawn pyton so we’ll see I I think that Shawn Payton’s Broncos tenure thus far has been Rocky and I think that he now they did win eight games and they had won five the year before so you give credit for that and there’s the and they rebounded from the 70 piece they gave up I get so I’m trying to be fair but he was brought there to fix the quarterback situation and they gave a quarterback close to 90 million to go away and then in my opinion and others they massively overdrafted a quarterback that is you know past the age most NFL players retire when entering the league and so I think those are question marks and so we’ll see that’s what I would say well look it was interesting that he said and he was playing around with the media having fun he was in a good mood apparently but that as I’ve gotten older I’ve stopped using the middle fingers it was just a year ago that he basically was throwing middle fingers at everybody so I’m not buying that that and look his legacy’s not on the line no but we are in a what have you done for me lately world all right and I do think it’s kind of like Russell Wilson Russell Wilson nobody can take away from him that he was a great quarterback but because of what he’s done these last two years people look at him kind of H you know and and that’s where Payton’s at right now he was great and he left New Orleans with a phenomenal Legacy and reputation all right but if he keep losing in Denver people just start you just start digging well he did have the three seven to n Seasons with the Hall of Fame quarterback H there was that Bounty gate thing you know there you just start looking at things a little bit differently again Mike Shanahan failed in Washington so it wouldn’t ruin what Payton did in New Orleans but he should have a chip on his shoulder because thus far he is failing it’s only been one year but he is failing so it’s because and again I don’t think it’s failing because they went eight and N because I think that actually was something of a that was the best year Denver’s had in six years I think I think failing because he was hired with the idea of you’re going to get Russell Wilson turned back around and instead whatever fair or not whatever he saw from Russ he decided we we will we must move on by any means necessary so that was the biggest objective and that one certainly did not happen Broncos Jets week two I’m going to call that early must win early mustn must win a must win for for both probably both double must win you think it’s a double I need to do a correction because I’m a stickler for accuracy Jets Broncos week four I was actually two weeks off so I apologize double must win okay Chris Sims finishes top 40 QB countdown like Casey kasm Josh Allen is taking the silver medal uh for context here the guy ahead of him uh been to four Super Bowls won three guy below him went to a Super Bowl the guy below him Lamar Jackson has two MVPs the guy below him W Matthew stord won a Super Bowl guy before Underneath Him has actually never won a playoff game but regardless Josh Allen is in at two is this too high no I don’t think it’s I think you can argue it for sure look Joe burrow kind of last year was unanimously or not unanimously but largely viewed as the second best he’s hurt too much now if he gets through this year 16 17 games and plays in the playoffs and all that fine but right now he’s hurt too much so I have no problem putting Josh Allen ahead of him okay my argument would be this and I’m not going to argue it too strongly but I think you can make an argument that Lamar Jackson should be number two and here it is two MVPs to zero and we’re not talking about ancient history we’re talking about last year he was MVP all right he’s never had a receiver like Stefan Diggs right right Josh Allen has had one of the top receivers for the bulk of his career and uh Lamar has never had that Lamar is as accurate I mean their accuracy is similar with both of them Lamar I would say maybe some will disagree he’s the better Runner even last year when he didn’t run as much he ran for more yards than Josh Allen ever has he ran for over 800 Josh has never run for 800 Lamar’s got the two 1,000 yard rushing years now we know Josh had a ton of touchdowns but a lot of those are at the goal line you could give into a running back I’m just saying oh now we’re discounting talking I’m just stating fast oh wow but I I my point is that you could certainly argue and if it’s close why not give it to the guy with the MVP last year so I I think you could have put Lamar I tell you why they didn’t give it a guy with the MVP last year because the last time we saw him play he looked out of his sort entirely out of sorts here’s the thing now the I understand that there was an odd the there was right and there was a you know a interesting internet back and forth seemingly between me and Lamar but it there is no ill will and he even stated as much in a later tweet after he sent a funny gift of a monkey with a long nose that’s fine it happens it was all in good fun um I I really like and root for Lamar but as I said which spurred that interaction which I will will say here is if every year of your career your worst game of the season is your last game of the season and it’s a playoff game that is going to be hard forget being the second best quarterback in football it’s I would be lying if I said I would rather have Lamar than CJ Stout I wouldn’t there are I would rather have Lamar than Matt Stafford I wouldn’t well you’d rather have CJ stad than Lamar yes we saw them play against each other I understand but that I that last tce I I understand that if you’re so like I said you might disagree if you are asking me if I am tied up to a lie detector and I’m like hey I need to win a Super Bowl Patrick Mahomes is off the board give me your list of quarterbacks would I say CJ Stroud’s name before Lamar I would would I say Matt Stafford’s name before Lamar I would would I say Joe Burrow’s name before Lam Mars of course I would would I say Josh Allen for as much of as criticism of Josh Allen I’ve had of course I would of course yes because I’ve never because it it it can’t be that every year of your career your worst your team’s worst offensive performance and your worst individual performance is in your playoff game it once that’s happened four times it’s not a coincidence it’s a structural problem he is on the team and has been on teams no great receivers no great running back and he is carrying them the 75% wins in the regular season and fairly at least this year they got to the conference Championship so I have two questions about the receivers thing one is are we going to retroactively change any opinion on that if Hollywood Brown is unbelievable this year are we is that going to be Hollywood Brown who seemingly wanted out of Baltimore now maybe that was wasn’t great in Arizona either I mean if he’s great with Mahomes but right but again the question is is that is who you’re chasing that is who you’re competing with but the the other part of it is it’s not for lack of trying no since drafting Lamar no team has spent more top 100 pick draft capital on receivers than the Ravens so maybe they’re bad at picking the position or maybe who who’s the great receiver there and I like flowers I me I’m not saying what Z turns into but I’m just saying so far he hasn’t had a great right and which I’m not saying he’s had obviously but if you’re asking me my life’s on the line this team has to win the Super Bowl I can pick any quarterback in football there’s a lot of names I’m going to say before I say Lamar’s because of the track record of it I don’t think it’s unfair what track record does CJ have winning one game right but not a negative one Lamar track record is a negative one I it’s almost being a blind one is better live from New York it’s a show that’s debating is it the biggest game of Luca’s life oh life is different definitely not theame life maybe NBA counting Real Madrid they’ve got flares in the stands they they’re not messing around over there a lot of flares in European basketball yeah there’s a lot oh their Crowds Are Rock exactly right second hour of first things first today MAV sweep in the words of Eric reinholm in a segment that he never actually produced so I took it too soon uh meanwhile why Burrow’s quote about his mortality should resonate in Cincinnati’s front office I mean Aaron Rogers couldn’t show up for that you’re literally just walking you’re just walking around it’s Halloween there uh meanwhile Jason kid lobed a media grenade before game two when he said Jaylen Brown was the Celtics best player all the Celtics had to respond and kid was hailed as a Chessmaster at the game within the game it’s true and was like he’s so Savage including on our group chat RW was like brilliant mind games but yesterday he said nope none of that I was just talking it wasn’t mind games but for whatever reason everybody took it that way everybody was speculating and no one really asked me that so either this is another move from The Savvy master or he was just talking give and takes the former he’s still playing mind games is the series over no not even has even started actually right according to experts so why would he stop yeah if he was playing mind games of few days ago why in the world would he stop it didn’t work no but it kind of It kind of did work it might be working I yeah I mean it might be working it might take like you said Tatum took 22 shots was that because he’s trying to prove he’s the best player now he’s doing the other things but is his poor shooting in any way related I mean look Jason kid is a legend let’s not forget that yeah all right and and I mean I’m I don’t want to do the math in my head but I was going to say Tatum grew up watching him but he might be too young for that but he knows what Jason kid is he was a smart point guard and if you got a legend who was a smart player saying this guy is better than you that can get in your head and if he says it over and over or leaves it out there as the series goes on and you’re struggling with your shot cuz the shot can be mental yes all right that could get in your head so no I’m I’m totally like kid is still playing the this is the guy that told his assistant bump me bump me I got no time outs left I would not that as one of the savviest one of the M NBA history point he’s a competitor he is a competitor he’ll do whatever it takes to win including spilling throwing a grenade into the Celtics locker room all right when did Jason kid win his one Championship 2011 M so I think the Mavs repeatedly putting Berea on Lebron in spots was a mind game I I you know what I mean I don’t think they were like oh ex’s knows why this works I think it happened once by chance and they recognized it made LeBron’s computer of a brain short circuit almost and then they’re like oh now there’s like a real weird like ego thing and it’s a narrative and but that is a little overstated element of that series but it it happened more on more than one so and he to you know he played in two finals as the best player on the net on a team that seemed wildly overmatched in both of them the third Lakers three Champion ja and Kobe and then Duncan Spurs one and so yeah I don’t think he’s above any of this I think it’s smart and I think it was effective I felt like and again I’m not acting like you get you see special things by being in person rather than on TV but he does the game can feel differently on what you’re watching or maybe what you’re watching versus what the camera’s showing Jason Tatum seemed like a player who was thinking the whole game 100% who was not reading and he always feels a little bit like that I shouldn’t say always but that’s like a criticism of his it’s less it’s less read reac and more but it felt like everything was a a beat off because he was indecisive in between decisions was part of that that man these folks we got cuz it wasn’t just that kids said it it was that Drew then I don’t think really thinking about it immediately co-signed it I was like yeah well he ain’t lying here’s why Jaylen Brown’s great and I think Drew was just trying to be good to jayen Brown and wasn’t thinking about the what it meant and so yeah I think he’s going to keep going like that is smart like we know the different levers Phil Jackson was better than any coach I’d ever seen about playing the refs between games you know what I mean that between games he would set the narrative on things and then see how it would play out I this is a part of the NBA finals and it is oddly one of the things that makes the finals unique is because of the time between games and the media tension and the fact that these players are human you can try to plant seeds and do different things it’s so brilliant because suppose I think Tatum’s going to go for 30 plus tonight and even if he does he’s like now who’s the best player he like oh no it’s it’s yeah it’s still working all right so here’s the stat you’ll hear it tonight 36 teams have been in an 02 hole 31 of them have lost and only five have come back to win here’s the numbers on how those series have played out nine teams got swept seven gentleman sweep so I would actually conclude that 22 teams not swep but lost the gentleman sweep I include in sweep family okay but on the stats there that are actual people put together where did the gentleman sweep fall into not listed okay I think it’s in the not swept but lost yeah gentleman sweep got it no problem five teams have won mhm so brw more likely the the Celtics sweep or Mavs comeback now by the Numbers this shouldn’t even be a question look I’m going to give you some props on that all right because my feelings are for the Mavericks I don’t think they’re getting swept I picked them in six I’m not feeling sick so much right now cuz they’d have to win the next four but I still feel good about them winning but the facts are Nick more likely and from what we’ve seen and I know they’re going home so they better do it tonight but more likely is a sweep coaching alert all right just because beyond beyond that was real hard to Beyond just those numbers I mean Kyrie Irving has had problems it’s obviously got to be something mental now they got great Defenders too but but it’s obviously something mental is it just Boston or is it just against Boston that’s the key cuz his last five playoff games against the Celtics listen to the these numbers will baffle you okay 14 points a game 36% shooting 10% from three and not all of those games have been in Boston no of course all right and only two of them is that just the playoffs or is just playoffs so that means only two of them Drew holidays been on the team right right and even if you look like obviously doing a great job on Kyrie but if you watch the game oh there are a lot of switches he he’s he’s seeing a lot of different Defenders at times he’s seeing Pritchard he was seeing porzingis at times he’s seeing everybody essentially here and there and so that you’ve got that Luca’s banged up I give Luca much credit and he is not making a big deal out of it but the dud is dealing with what three injuries yeah I seemed more concerned than luuka did before I I like that he’s not you know he’s not giving it any place all right he’s not you know no look I’m fine I mean and then later on saying but you know look it’s just I mean it is what it is I mean yeah I’m banged up but I’m a play he’s not going any of that he’s just playing and so I I do think Nick and remember Jason Tatum has not even gotten going not even played well yet I do think the that I but as you said neither has Kyrie now it’s I understand the argument of it’s more reasonable to think Kyrie is going to continue to struggle than Tatum but Tatum struggled throughout basically the entirety of the previous finals he was in I will bet anything that you have in there that again if the bet is they all fell out okay that is what are we doing I mean just pick you supposed to lock Wilds they all fell out they’re all on the ground I see them it’s about one of them and then all wild they’re in there get them in there in there pick one of them buddy we’re trying to do a TV show and I’m trying to brew gave This brilliant analysis I’m trying to continue your stupid bit so this the bet if the Celtics sweep you win if they don’t if the Mavs come back I win what’s the bet crumble cookies for everybody okay that’s fine that’s just $50 that’s it’s not a high enough st$ okay that’s fine I don’t care here so here’s the real analysis of it guys I don’t think Chris’s playing again and I think that is so significant to so many things the Celtics have been able to do which is as soon as Chris STS is out of there you can’t play Horford 35 minutes you just can’t now all of a sudden is the old cornette contest coming out in the finals maybe do we have more Sam Hower pton Pritchard small lineups maybe what it opens up is the lobs what it opens up is they are going to they’re going to have to have cornett’s out there being a drop instead of switching there are so many things that Chris staps unavailability would mean for them and in this series if we show you the numbers plus it’s dead even with Chris steps off the court and the the thing that jumps out to me the most it’s a seven-point drop in the Celtics field goal percentage and a seven-point jump in the Mavs field goal percentage so I agree that I even if he tries to play I don’t think he’s going to be very effective I will just throw this out at you look you’re playing you’re not playing you know playoff caliber teams all the time this might shock y’all though Boston’s record without porzingis this year oh it’s unbelievable 21 and4 yeah that’s 8 they were obviously ran 43 and 14 right yeah now they didn’t look to great to me against the Pacers without porz but I’m just saying they’re still a capable team it’s a matchups thing and I think that that would be incredibly significant I also think we are slight I think that the Celtics looked like the far better team for the first quarter of game one I think for the rest of game one it was an even game literally and eye testwise and in game two it felt to me like that game was nip and Tuck until the the tail end of the third or the middle of the third quarter when it felt like the Celtics took control and then the Mavs tried to make that Furious come back at the end I don’t think it is as lopsided as 20 is lopsided in the standings and if the Celtics all of a sudden are going to have to I also think Horford’s minutes Horford’s production will be worse because 20 minutes of Al Horford he can go all out he’s the oldest player that plays in the league other than LeBron and I think Chris Paul like there is he I just think all of that speaks to that the Mavs are far more likely to win four of the next five and the Celtics are to sweep them maybe how much does burrow have left in the tank I don’t want to argue with you that was a fair argument Joe burrow has been injured uh few times in his short career it’s not only taking a toll on his body taking a toll on his mindset as well take a listen it’s definitely something I’ve thought about yeah you know whenever the injuries start to stack up it’s your football mortality kind of comes into the back of your mind so that’s definitely something that I’ve thought about and something that I’ve had to to fight through that’s that’s every injury that happens you know they they they stack and you know you continue to think about how you can get better from those and how you can come back an improved player I kind of like Joe Cool better introspective Joe makes me worried bro what’s your reaction he’s being honest now maybe you don’t want to hear that but to describe him in any other way besides injury prone at this point would just be disingenuous he’s missed 13 games in four years he’s only been healthy for two of his Four Seasons all right so his last injury well the second to last he just got hurt rolling out in practice all right and then the risk injury I know he heard that in the game but you know we saw him with the brace on and like and and he dating back to college he had some injury issues as well and so yeah this is a problem and that look Beyond just the physical issue of can he stay healthy if it’s in his head and you got to kind of Wonder well how would it not be in his head right that you are injury-prone that I’m out here I could get hurt can I do this can I do that it’s a battle I think he can get through it because he is a great quarterback but he is going to have to go out and prove to us and maybe to himself that he is not injury PR so or flip side of that is his team needs to acknowledge that he is and treat him as such which they have not so like they I I hesitate and I don’t mean to always use the Chiefs as the gold standard but I will in this regard once again I apologize Patrick momes got hurt in the fluki way imaginable on a play that is Run a thousand times a season by every quarterback over the course of history Tom Brady ran it more than anyone never got hurt on it and always succeeded on it Patrick Mahomes five years ago got hurt on it one time the Chiefs did not call a they still haven’t called a quarterback sneak they did not call another designed quarterback run until overtime of the Super Bowl on fourth down y cuz they were were like and Patrick Mahomes is not injury prone that’s the only time he’s ever missed missed games in his career now he’s had sprained ankle he played through but he is the opposite of injury-prone he’s not quite you know far or Manning as far as the Iron Man but he’s not injury prone we have to protect him Tua obviously injury concern the Dolphins had a whole program in place including what his body was going to look like him practicing nonf football like jiujitsu What offense they’re going to run to acknowledge it the Bengals had Joe burrow in training camp with a calf sleeve instead of sitting and he tweaks it the Bengals had Joe burrow on an airplane with a wrist brace and then he gets hurt I just don’t trust that organization to recognize that this guy is needs to be treated in a certain way and I don’t BL listen I don’t you guys know how much you said Brew going into last year he was kind of universally considered the second best quarterback in football for me that started a couple years ago I think he’s great and I also think that he is the only quarterback that I think’s great that doesn’t have like the measurables that I love from arm strength and stuff like that because he’s so A+ in accuracy and Leadership and all all those things right a lot a lot like Brady and I just don’t I don’t trust up to this point the Bengals haven’t treated his injuries with the level of concern that I think other teams would BR remember when he was asked how big his Super Bowl window was Cincinnati Super Bowl window closing and he said famously the window is my whole career so that’s kind of the opposite that’s the Very Long View we can always win now he’s like you know what thinking about my football mortality if I was in the front office I was like you know what I would treat him more like the Jets this year go all in the Cowboys who were supposed to be all in even the Chiefs and mahomes’s going to have a long career are all in this year chasing it doesn’t feel like the Bengals well I think they are by not trading Higgins to me they to me they could traed him and move forward exactly think those are reasons that they need to be looking at it as Super Bowl or bus this year right because you got two of your key players who have asked to be traded presumably won’t be on the team next year all right and you got to pay Jamar now I don’t know if they’ll pay him this year or not but they’ll pay if okay if your if your quarterback gets injured again you still might pay him but does that at least comes into your thought process so they should be like almost on a one year-to-year plan with burrow yeah like let’s we got to go all out every year and the the and if Bengals fans are watching this and think it’s being too harsh what is concerning so we can throw out the torn AC I would throw out the torn ACL maybe that’s unfair maybe that’s but it was happen that and if you watched the play it feels like yeah every ACL gets torn by that you know what I mean it was a terrible offensive line it got it was the concern literal concern when people were like don’t go there they don’t have this infrastructure all those things that one the in my opinion last year he suffered two very significant injuries on diametrically opposed parts of the body both in relatively benol circumstances one totally in rolling out but the other one in the Ravens game I remember when it happened I don’t think anybody thought oh that is that is massive wrist surgery unique but then we saw him on the sideline remember he couldn’t DP the ball and all of us were shocked by it nobody so those weren’t massive hits though which does make you feel like you’ve got to be extra protective about this player coming up the BET of the century on game three wow you’re finally in Big Time pick all those things up you I already did budless coming up tomorrow any early well look tonight’s game we’ll have a lot to say about it Aaron Rogers could find oh he should be on the bud list yeah all right wild Ric let Celtics at Mavs tonight Mavs are favored I picked to the Celtics in six so this would be oddly against my prediction not necessarily well cuz I haven’t seen the Tatum game yet and we’ve decided to make today a a day of betting and wagering it hadn’t really worked out well I mean honestly whenever wild whenever wild sacrifices our real show for the fake show then it the real show suffers but that’s fine because Wilds is trying to get internet famous trying to become an influencer yeah I mean he’s very mad the New York Post called me a star today and he’s still not over it so I was happy for you listen I’ve got the for def have the MS tonight as does Brew you have the Celtics have and I have Tatum scoring 30 we already bet the 30 we can do it again what’s that thank you what is that one Read that read this one it’s going to be tough for you Chris I’m sorry call Wilds a star for the whole show star Kevin wild if Boston win okay and then what but what if what if you’re wrong what’s the flip side to it point you got to call us Stars yeah exactly right you guys are stars you have to refer to us what’s the next one St the Stars the you you’re a superstar I’ll be honest with you what’s this one this one’s a little bit that’s a little bit funky call Wild’s a star there’s a little bit of dirty this is there’s a lot of dirty pool in there buy staff lunch that’s an easy one I usually do that anyways you never that I usually do that you made me give you a $100 bill the other day and you brought me a child siiz pulled pork sandwi staff lunch P will score 30 the Celtics will win again moderately easily remember how when we were at that baseball game brw couldn’t go to and our boss’s boss’s boss sat between us and said he watches every day let’s hope today wasn’t one of those guys I mean not great tomorrow speak is up next not great