Five Things About the 2024 U.S. Open with Shane Bacon | The Fried Egg Golf Podcast

Shane Bacon joins Andy Johnson to preview the 2024 U.S. Open at Pinehurst No. 2. The two dive into the biggest storylines going into the tournament, including Scottie Scheffler’s dominant form, Jon Rahm’s injuries, and how the venerable course will fare against today’s best players.

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welcome back to another edition of the Fredy golf podcast I am your host Andy Johnson uh it is the US Open we are here US Open week it’s Sunday the US Open I am pumped we are going to be playing this at Pinehurst number two this year it’ll be the first of a run of five appearances for Pinehurst number two in the next 25 years so it should be a big Telltale sign of how major championship uh particular the US open’s going to play out over the next uh you know couple years and to do our traditional five things about this major podcast uh we have getagrip host uh getagrip podcast host Shane bacon kft corn uh corn fairy tour you know uh announcer Shane bacon um a man that wears many hats founder of uh grounder repair logo redesign business uh you know a man of many talents Shane bacon welcome on the podcast Andy that is uh quite an intro my goodness I mean that’s like one of the best most professional ones uh you’ve ever done no children’s book author you know there’s too many of us usam qualifier didn’t break 80 at usam you didn’t get any of that stuff in there like you can’t get that in um I’m so pumped to be joined by you hey you’re a are you a hot coffee guy you’re you’re holding your coffee cup out right now are you only hot coffee guy or do you get into iced ever look at this it’s us cup nice I use this I use this cup specifically for this podcast about the US Open I decided to go with the US Open coffee mug um you know one of the great things about where I live I think one of the greatest most underrated under talked about things is that you have basically the perfect coffee climate where in the mornings I go hot coffee because you know mornings I wake up it’s usually about you know sub 60 Dees and then if I need an afternoon jolt I always go ice coffee and it’ll be you know 60 plus degrees perfect weather for ice coffee I like that I like that I uh I lean what are you are you a iced coffee like I I think like if I was in Chicago the way my My Coffee Works in Chicago is summer was like exclusively iced coffee I I used to make iced coffee now I don’t I can’t put the iced coffee into the fridge or else I am going to be drinking too much coffee so I like have to like require myself to leave to go get an afternoon coffee otherwise I will just drink afternoon coffee does that make sense I I’m not a big fan of drinking afternoon coffee I only do it when I need to do stuff what’s your coffee Behavior so you know we’re we’re both partners with our good friends at good walk who do just an amazing amazing job with their coffee um I will make the cold brew out of their coffee I’ll get the ground coffee and then make it with the toddy cold brew system yeah and I’m pretty much a cold brew guy at this point I’ll have I’ll have hot coffee on golf trips like if you’re abandoned or you know I was just up in Wisconsin like Aaron Hills has great coffee in their cabins I’ll I’ll have hot coffee there but if I’m at home I’m I’m likely gonna have a cold brew um that I make with good walk or I’m gonna um go out and get like a Starbucks cold brew or something like that which I’m having right now because I’m on the road I’m doing corn faery this week headed into US Open um by the way at this point at this point I think that cold brew might be the only drinkable Starbucks coffee I think that’s I think that’s a very fair point to say Andy guess how many guys in the kft event this week are playing in the US Open next week I bet you can’t get it right I can’t I know I’m not going to get the number right but I was looking through it I mean you got like Tim Whiting you got Isaiah Sinda by the way Ving is how we say that now you know that no yeah it’s beating I think I’m gonna stick with Widing because I like how skinny he is with the name Widing he’s a very slender guy and I think it just ruins the whole like you know I always love when you when you have names that contradict the appearance of someone you know I agree agree wholeheartedly seven guys in the field at the BMW are playing Uso Frankie uh Frankie kappen sappin Andy sappin again I like the idea of Frankie cappen the second being a mob boss so we’re gonna start this with me you know being disrespectful to all these people’s names but you know some sometimes you got to look at the name and say like hey I could I could really make a name for myself if I if I leaned into this look at you look at you go yeah seven guys in the kft event are playing uh play in US Open next week and then of course you got Ben Kohl’s in the field because he was number one on the kft points list so kft represented next uh next week at the uh at the US Open um do you think I should change the way my name’s pronounced to Andy Anon say the J J maybe Hanson Hanson you could go with I’m uh I’m Shane Bon ban it would be epic if I did do a different pronunciation of bacon which has never existed in the history I will get this Andy I will get people occasionally that ask how to spell my last name and I’m like there’s only one way dude there’s only one way I got nothing else for you well that’s uh that was one of my things one of my things I think um kind of how I’ll always remember Xander uh our most recent major Champion that the champion of uh the PGA Championship last month how I will always remember him I will always remember watching him Cameron Champ and Trey molx play the first round at Aaron Hills US Open they were basically um three qualifiers I think maybe um champ might have had some exemption but I think they were three qualifiers they were at the end of the bus on Thursday afternoon and they were all playing pretty good golf I molx and and Xander in particular were playing great golf and Xander kept it going and it was really the the standout early performance in his PGA Tour career that launched him into really a star he became a star shortly after he he carried that performance that confidence that he gained from the US Open which he qualified into into a you know what became a really Stout major championship career um up to do his win at the PGA Championship um so Xander Schley is like a great example of what qualifying for a major can provide these there are a lot of worldclass talents that have qualified into this tournament um that wouldn’t be in the Masters because you have to have be a world-class Talent with worldclass results to get into the Masters um the PGA is a is similar where you know the only way you’re qualifying in is with results this is a championship that allows world class players to qualify in um it allows um worldclass amateurs like yourself to get into sectional qualifying and have a chance to qualify in but um I think like one of my big stories and I this is what I love about the US Open is the idea of like are we gonna see a qualifier make a run and have a Xander likee jump coming off of a run um it’s one of the things that you love about sports it’s um you know you have occasionally players that that get a 10day contract with a team and and parlay you know in the NBA and parlay it into a long NBA career um this is kind of golf’s version of that where you know whether it’s Monday qualifying on the PGA tour and turning into a hot run that gets you a card eventually the US Open could be one of that one of those moments and I I pulled a couple names that just just to watch and like how I thought about this was like super talented players who haven’t necessarily been on the big stage yet um and it could be they’ve been beat up a little bit by the process of getting to the PGA Tour they could be they’re on the PGA tour they just haven’t had a breakout real breakout performance um four I have four names here Isaiah celinda former Walker copper plays on the corn fairy tour you know just a weird time he stayed amateur rather than turned Pro to play in a walker cup and this is a guy that was his peers have all like his peers people that were thought of to be of the same level have are basically all on the PGA Tour all having very strong careers to point to this point he kind of got beat up by the system didn’t have a place to play you know when he didn’t get through Q school then Co hit and he was basically froze out of any form of of golf um any he super super talented kid hits it long um and someone you know he’s already won he won on the corn faery tour this year someone I expect to be playing the PGA tour for 15 years um Andy Andy on on that too um easy to forget that Isaiah played excellent in the amateur at Pine AR number two back in 2019 I mean this is a guy that made the round of 16 um and you know ran into one of the other great young players that were in the field that week to lose and not advance to the quarterfinals but has experien at pioner number two has experienced in USGA championships around pioner number two which I think is going to be really really important this feels like Andy and you would know better than me this feels like a golf course where the more you play it the better you understand like where to go and where not to go and to me I think that could be a good thing or a bad thing there well I think for the pros it’s a good thing I think for idiots like you and me it’s not so good but um you know I just I I think that seeing this place the way it played I was out there covering it for the amiter I mean it was spicy it was firm it was what you’d expect Piner number two to be um so I think him being involved in that um is also a good thing for his his chances another name along the same lines and his former teammate Brandon woo who plays on the PGA tour he was The Medalist at that usam uh he qualified in out of the Dallas one with all the pros just another name he played on tour um obviously a very decorated amateur career and has been on the PGA tour for a couple years just hasn’t broken through uh another name Rico hoey um who played great on the corn fery tour last year I think he hasn’t had a ton of starts on the PGA tour it’s kind of a weird year I think to be a PGA Tour rookie coming out of the Corn fairy tour um yes if you want to play golf it’s a weird year it’s very strange year um and then the the last one who I think like I think you look at like the Live players and I think a lot of them have have probably maybe regressed a little um since they went there but a young player who I’ve been super impressed with who I think has really worked who’s improving at a very quick rate is David Pho um young Spanish player and he qualified in uh I think he’s he’s been like super what’s been impressed about him he’s playing on this tour where you know money is no no object of anybody you know concern of anybody that’s playing somewhat good golf there and he’s been out grinding on the Asian tour and weeks off trying to up his world ranking um he clearly wants to I think he’s got this is all anecdotal just Observer from afar it seems like this guy wants to be a world class player and and by what I mean a world class player playing in major championships um so he he qualified in was The Medalist at lak mered um and I’m I’m super interested to watch him continue to evolve I think he’s only like at 21 years old right now so well so so that that kind of leads into something I have as one of my five things Andy because I think you’re you’re on to something here I mean the US Open it’s it’s one of the great events in sports because of what you just said young players can qualify in guys like Ben James you know who I think is is headed quickly to the PJ tour I mean Metalist you know shoots 64 um in the second round there to qualify for the US Open made a run last year at the USA at a great young player um and then I was thinking about some of the maybe maybe more notable names that qualified through sectionals and I think Harry higs is obviously an easy pick um considering the way he’s played on the corn fery tour over the last month couple of wins there I feel like Harry’s got a lot of confidence coming in feels a little Andy like what we saw with Jason Gore years ago and Jason Gore was playing awesome golf um I think at the time on the web.com tour and then gets to the US Open and contends and you know gets himself I think he was in the final pairing on Sunday there at Beth Page black um and then um Zack Blair I think is a name we should obviously you know focus on as well just considering how good the short game is uh the Piner number two as we know will test a lot of pitch shots and shots around the greens I don’t think you’ve got to be overly long to play well at Piner number two especially as firm and as fast as as it’s expect ing to play so I feel like ZB coming in with the way he’s been playing as somebody to at least Circle if you’re looking maybe outside the top 30 names in terms of favorites um but one of the things I wrote down Andy is pioner number two US opens every time they’ve had a US Open there we’ve had a random guy in the mix so I wrote down who’s going to be the random guy in the mix this year so uh 2014 it was Eric Compton if you remember in the mix I mean nobody was going to catch kimer But Eric hton I think finished third that week um 05 was our champion was the random guy in the mix Michael Campbell and then 99 it was Tim Heron was in the mix kind of with Payne Phil and tiger um going into that Sunday so who’s GNA be the random player for this US Open I looked at Ben on um he’s played great golf not not excellent Golf and um I’m not sold on the short game there so I think my random guy I was kind of going through the names and the odds and some of these players on who I think has a chance that’s maybe well off the list of players you’d expect to contend and I think I’ve landed on Alex nor War um very consistent this season finished t for T12 at the PGA and I was looking at his numbers Andy and they’re pretty remarkable I mean Tia green on the PJ tour this year he’s 11th off the T 42nd approach 26th around the green ninth he’s fourth in Strokes gain total I mean that’s obviously when you combine everything and look at Great numbers very impressive I mean you’re up there with guys like Scotty and Xander and Rory when you’re Landing fourth so I feel like as I’m looking at who’s going to be the next R quote unquote random player to make a run at a Us open at Pinehurst considering it’s happened every time we’ve gone to Pinehurst number two I think my guy is Alex norren I uh yeah he’s played unbelievable golf um I think I I meant to do this at the top but here’s a little bit of the championship history of Piner number two um for those that aren’t you you touched on it a little bit so you have uh 24 most recently Martin kimer wins at minus 9 uh Fowler and Compton are at minus one and then you have Keegan uh Jason day DJ Brooks and Henrik Stenson at plus one so big lift separation Brooks Andy Brooks just sneaking in there man just total that was like the first big big Brooks moment so crazy it’s like these little moments like a little bit what you talked on you touched on with Xander at Aaron Hills is these little moments when you’re a no quote unquote nobody in golf and you just have this moment at this stage and you go okay I can contend here and then you know three years later you win a US Open very interesting um 2005 Michael Campbell wins it even tiger is at plus two Tim Clark Sergio and Mark hensby if you if you didn’t go Tim Heron you could have gone Mark hensby there could have got hensby I guess Tim was 99 99 he was he was a little bit more in the hunt um through three rounds but yes yes hensby at plus five um and then 99 uh pain Stewart wins obviously historic major at minus one mikkelson’s at even and VJ and tiger are at plus one I think the next scores were plus five I think one of the things you see with with Pinehurst is it does through three of these and we’ll see what happens it does really allow people to lift and separate yep I think it’s just the challenge of of I mean just the challenge of approaching these greens I think is what what creates that lift and separation so so Andy that leads into my next thing my fourth thing if you will um will somebody finish will somebody finish under par I mean I wrote down similar things to what you just said 2014 three guys finished under par five nobody finished under par 99 one guy finished under par in the three us opens headed into 2024 we’ve had exactly one player better one under par at a US Open at pioner number two so I just you know we we talked so much about these us opens like what do we want them to be do we want them to be tough do we want them to be brutal do you want guys to go out there and still be able to make birdies this place feels like a golf course that you’re just not going to see people touch double digit under par unless you’re absolutely lapping the field like we saw with kimer right and so my question to you is and I talked to some people over the last couple days preparing for the podcast that either live in Pinehurst or work you know for the USGA and around the US Open they saying conditions are where they want them to be it is firm you know it is fast it is tough it’s going to be tough again like they’re expecting it to be I don’t think they’ve had a ton of rain Andy in the area over the last couple of weeks which I know they want they want it to be relatively browned out so it feels like we’re setting ourselves up for another US Open where if you go out and make a whole bunch of pars you’re going to be in the hunt do you see the same thing yeah I just think um this this parlays into my kind of golf course um thing I think it’s just it’s just a brutally tough place to play golf um there are certain golf courses that are just naturally hard and this is one of them um I don’t know if naturally is the right word since since the greens are propped up and artificially hard I guess um and the intentionally difficult um uh but I think this golf course is just it’s just so difficult to get comfortable on it and I I did a a podcast with Garrett where I where we talked about this a lot um right before this one but every t- shot seemingly plays a little bit on a diagonal which means you have to pick line and distance off the T that’s an uncomfortable uncomfortable way to play golf it’s a huge ju to position from our last major championship host Valhalla which was just bombs away um you have to and then when you’re approaching the green I think what’s the unique thing the targets are just so small and with the way modern go the this this is what I’m excited to watch like one of my five things is just like modern golf has this theory of like you got to aim five yards right like you just always aim away from it’s not modern golf it’s you know golf with a brain um people have been doing this for years um but the idea of hey that pins tucked left you need to aim five yards right and be happy with the disper dispersion I think that works really well when there’s r catching the ball at Pinehurst the ball rolls away because of the edges in the the edges of the greens are all crown or predominantly all crowned and then you have short grass that that kind of sends the ball further away I think that like just generally disrupts the um the formulaic nature of this strategy that people deploy um it’s it’s it’s based off of a large sampling of PGA Tour courses where the ball stops there’s rough around the greens and the ball stops um they they aren’t you know Crown greens where the ball rolls away so the idea of aiming away here I think is a little bit less advantageous because the ball rolls away here and I think what’s going to have to happen players have to take on a little bit more risk and I’m not saying like they need to go fire at every flag but the targets are so small here that you have to take you have to do things that you don’t want to do with a with a somewhat regular occurrence that’s the way I feel when you play here is when you play tentatively it really really chews you up like I you know it is it is if you’re not playing committed Golf and and really confident with your your golf swing you you don’t have much of a chance here I don’t know how you feel about it yeah I mean I I think think you’re spot on I mean I you know I played it last year uh I’ve played it a few times um it’s one of my favorite courses to play because of of how much you’ve got to be thinking all the time and also to your point it’s a lot of step up and hit a golf shot um which I think major championship golf should be I think there should be a lot less we can bail out here we have to hit the golf shot on this on at this spot at this time and if I don’t pull the golf shot off I’ve got to hit an unbelievable shot just to Safe par right I feel like pioner number two is an easy place to get to three and four over and it’s a super super hard place to get back to even right there’s not a whole bunch of birdies out on this golf course the par fives are difficult the short par fours are difficult and you said it I mean even with the sand wedge and a lot wedge I remember last year you know I was playing with some very good players you know I played with a buddy of mine that played mini tour golf and Joel clatt who’s you know a scratch golfer and you know you’re four and five holes into it explaining to them that there’s not really any place to bail right I mean you you can maybe hit it 15 feet away from if the pins left and those trouble you could maybe hit 15 feet to the bigger side of the green that’s kind of it and if you do bail out the pit shot the Chip Shot whatever you’re picking from that point forward is gonna have to be extremely creative like going back to Joel last year Joel plays it of course in Southern California where it does have runoff areas he hits a lot of like bump and run five irons there when he’s playing golf he hit that shot to Perfection around Piner number two so there is an Open Championship element around the greens but when I’m looking at people and I’ve got some names on my list we’ll get two of my five things but when I’m looking at these level of players yes you’ve got to be a great iron player but the creativity with your hands has got to be there and there there’re gonna be a lot of golf shots you don’t see even at trun in my opinion you’ll see players try to play at the US Open yeah I think you hit on something also when you brought up ZB is that I don’t think you necessarily have to I think power is always a huge Advantage right like it’s not like I’m going to turn down being a long hitter at any golf course um I’m good yeah I you know what i’ prefer to hit at 280 I don’t need those I don’t need those 20 yards it’s fine you just you keep those things 40 40 yards but um one of the things that Pinehurst does is it chokes at 300 yards like almost every hole so I that’s that’s the other thing is that how how much risk are our players going to take on are we going to see a lot of drivers out here I think the games the games changed a ton since 2014 10 years ago that I mean it changed a lot so are we going to see a ton of drivers like the number of players that hit it over 300 yards is I mean it’s it’s a multiple of of 2014 so my my question one of my questions with the golf course is that too is how much of a driver test is it still um you know and and with it especially going forward um the way they kind of and I I want to be clear here they did the renovation and and this was one of Mike Davis input was we wanted this to choke in with bunkers and Native at 300 yards so um you know while it doesn’t present like your your US Open um venue uh where the USGA narrowed Fairways like because you see the rough come in here they did it very um they concealed it very well with Native it does choke it gets very narrow at 300 yards on almost every hole so it’ll be interesting to see where where how that how that has like just like an overall holistic effect on how many drivers are we seeing I think it’s important for a golf course to allow players to hit driver because you want to examine the driver test um it’s not what it used to be with in terms of driver forgiveness has gotten so good that like hitting a driver isn’t I don’t think the greatest skill challenge uh like it used to be in the 1980s maybe but um it’s still I think an important recipe of a a championship golf course and and if it if it gets to a point of like these guys are you know are hitting four or five drivers around I think you need to start to look at like what what are we doing with some of these narrowing areas and are we limiting the um the interest in the in the in the golf course by doing that so so that that that actually leads right in Andy to um I have you know we did five things I did a couple golf course things and a couple scoring things we’ve been knocking knocking them out here quick I think we’re both down to three this is uh I got three left and this is one of my big things and I think I said this before the year started um this was my pick to win this US Open um it feels like it’s cam Smith time this week um no better venue for him in terms of a major championship in my opinion I feel like there are places that make sense when you look at cam Smith as a pro golfer when you look at cam Smith as a top 10 golfer in the world the old course obviously being one of them you don’t have to drive the golf ball super well a National and other five top 10 in his last seven starts at the Masters and I think Pinehurst is absolutely perfect for cam you mentioned the driving of the golfball he is not a great driver to the golf ball he won’t have to hit as many drivers as he typically does I think at most major venues and I think like I don’t know cam Smith I’ve talked to him a couple times in my life but I feel like cam Smith is one of those players that gets more interested when the golf course gets him interested right when they ask the questions that cam wants to answer this feels like a place like that where you’ve got to pitch the golf ball exceptionally well he’s one of the best in the world at that there are crazy bunker shots you’re going to have to hit he’s unbelievable like that and and you know this if you pick pinards number two up and set it anywhere in the world I think it would make the most sense for it to be in the sand belt of Australia so for me I’m looking at cam Smith as not just my pick but a serious favorite to top five top 10 whatever you want to do because again I feel like this golf course doesn’t set up well for a lot of players I think it sets up very very well for cam Smith and he’s sneaky played pretty good in the majors over the last couple years I mean after the Open Championship win I think we all kind of saw him go to live and go is this guy gonna show up and play golf anymore he’s played pretty good in the majors especially at some of the courses I’ve mentioned so I feel like cam Smith is is a heavy name to think about this week yeah I think he’s played he’s he’s played okay I don’t think we’ve seen him really in the mix in anything like where it’s like okay he’s going to win um but he I think he’s played he’s played decent this the last couple months on Liv I I it’s hard to judge I I think like John ROM’s like a a great example of like it’s really hard to judge um what’s going on on Liv like uh for worldclass players I think it’s pretty easy to crew top 10s there but it’s very difficult to understand what the the state of their game is um I think like obviously I think every golf course in the world is uh is a good setup for him Scotty sheffler is one that you know this golf course might be might be the uh we’ll get Andy we’ll get to that in a minute I got that on my list as well my my last thing is Scotty specific so we’ll get we’ll get to Mr shefer in a bit but real quick just just W to just want to touch on cam real quick uh wins the 2022 open um hasn’t missed a cut in a major since the win um finished fourth at the US Open last year T9 at the PJ last year and t6th at Augusta this year so he hasn’t necessarily been in contention at these major championships but he’s played good enough golf to you know find himself in the top 10 come Sunday evening yeah and when he’s going I think like a great approach player too so I think that’s the the other aspect like I think if you everything from t uh a after the t- shot into the green he’s a top five player in the world and I think that’s super important at Piner number two um yeah I’ve got I’ll go with another live player I’ve got two Live players on to my next things I’ll go with John ROM here um he signed the live deal obviously in the winter I think he anticipated it being a short uh window of him playing live golf I think he thought Andy you know you know like on a much lower level I was listening to you guys the shotgun start talking about um the framework agreement or whatever they call it being a year ago you know I remember there were talks and we might have done this offline as much as we did it online but when ROM signed the live deal remember when you guys were talking you’re like I think he’s expecting to be in Hawaii and playing in this thing like that’s how quickly I think John ROM thought that that stuff was gonna be HED out and you know listen like he’s got the this is the worst start to a major championship season of his entire career dating back to when he was an amateur he went T45 at the Masters miscut at the PGA and it’s a small sample size I just don’t think it’s possible for anybody to take a big bag of money like that and not get a little soft I would agree wholeheartedly I mean I think it’s it’s it’s extremely hard to be pressing and I think one of the hardest things we’ve talked a lot about this with Liv I think this is no knock to live the product but I think it’s hard to find form in the way they go about their business it’s it’s sporadic and it’s scheduling it’s kind of all over the place worldwide you’re not playing as much golf as you typically do there’s only 10 or 12 guys that you think you really should be contending and competing with that’s not the feel you’re gon to get PJ tour weeks week to week Andy look at the two guys that have beat Scotty Sheffer this season on the PJ tour these are not top 20 guys in the world these are relatively random PJ players that found their game that week and were able to beat not just contend with beat the best golfer in the world that’s the difference in my opinion and PJ Tour golf even signature event Golf and live right now is there is still the 60th 70th guy in the field that can beat the number one guy in the world on any given week at a PJ Tour event yeah it’s like the bottom 15 on Liv aren’t going to beat John ROM uh with I mean it might be like a sporadic once every 30 times might beat him but not like have a chance to beat like and they beat him in the sense that John ROM plays bad and finishes 15th and they finish 14th right right I think like I think I think there’s an adjustment period And I I think you can play and we’ve seen people play good major championship golf from Liv I think the important caveat here is there’s an adjustment period they like you have to like John ROM is to me seems like a very much a creature of habit like he likes the way way things are like and this is the way things are this is the way I do things him going to live has completely disrupted the way he prepares for major championship he talked about it a little bit like I’m playing less golf like and I think he he’s at this place where he probably like if he didn’t if if if he went to live on his own Recon didn’t take whatever hundreds of millions of dollars to go there I think we’d hear like this is just you know you’d probably hear a very candid John ROM being like this is not working for me um I think I need to do this I need to do this um I’m I wonder how much how much practice and prep he he had in his life before maybe the Masters um outside of playing these you know three round events like listen like John ROM’s a level of player he’s a generational talent in a in a 50 person field that’s got a very weak bottom of the field you can roll out of bed and finish in the top 10 when you’re this talented yep um so I think like there’s like this smoke of like oh he he he hasn’t won but he’s been you know top 10 in every event on live that’s not an accomplishment for this guy and I’m sorry that I’m holding him to a higher standard but after last year’s Master’s win and near Miss at the you at the Open Championship contended you know at the Open Championship T2 the year year before he finishes a top 10 in every major two years ago he finishes top 10 in every major contended in a bunch of them this is like is this guy going to get to six or seven he’s in his like late 20s at this point this is the time this is the time this is his this was supposed to be this when you look at his career when you zoom out this is one of his five or six years of the meat of his career and he’s off to the worst major championship start of his career now could things turn around could he win this week absolutely but like you know when we zoom out when we look at like I’m sure this thing’s going to get resolved um and we’re going to have people playing back together maybe probably not next year maybe it’s the next year when we zoom out 15 years from now at John ROM’s career if if if the major championships don’t kind of turn around this year I I think John ROM will have a you know he’s never going to regret the three 400 million that’s in his bank account but he will have a regret of you know what I wasted one of my prime years of my career um so I think that’s like to me like in terms of like player interest storyline John Ram is number one for me like it is it is put up or shut up time for him um and like if he if he has another lackluster performance I I just like don’t know how you don’t look at like okay you’re you’re just not the you know hundreds of millions of dollars you’re not the same guy right now I mean Andy you and I are both big sports fans I mean you know golf has never dealt with this before but almost every other sport does is guys get traded or demand trades in the prime of their career and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn’t and there are plenty of players that we can Circle and go man if griffy hadn’t gone to the Reds like what would have happened in Seattle you know I mean yeah if the Thunder stay stuck together you know yeah if they don’t if they don’t if they don’t short James Harden four million bucks and they keep that core three together are they the dynasty that Golden State turned into like there are swinging door moments in every team sport across the board for decades and decades and golf never had to deal with this because golf didn’t have anywhere players could get traded to but I think your point is extremely valid on John ROM obviously this is a guy that is extremely competitive across the board and it feels like right now maybe he’s not getting that competitiveness he hoped to get at Liv and again like you said things could flip right now but I think of all the people like Bryson to me has benefited from Liv golf a little less exposure week to week you kind of get to pick and choose your sponse you get to lean into social media and do a great job with YouTube that’s a great place it’s it’s not live it’s edited you know all of those things I think play into Bryson’s hands right Liv seems to work well for Bryson the Shambo it might not be working well for John ROM you know both things can be true so it’s going to be very very interested this week if John ROM has a bad Us open at piner’s number two at a place where short game is the premium premium thing that got a lean on and John ROM has one of the best short games in the world then you’re going to really start to wonder who’s this guy going to be because like you said you go a full season he turns 30 in November Andy you know like right now 30 is getting older professional golf on the men’s side right we’re getting this thing’s getting younger by the year he’s GNA turn 30 and then all of a sudden he’s gonna be 32 and if he’s sitting on one major championship at 32 this is going to be a moment he’s going to look back on and go was this a decision that may or may not have disrupted my career now easier to do that when you got three mil in the bank but you know I mean when you’re looking at a guy that’s thinking about trophies and you know wants to be one of the best of his generation he’s got to kind of start to step it up now I mean I think like John RS had a great career uh to date and and everything but this is where that age uh debate like age isn’t talked about enough with uh young players in the sport John Ram was a really old rookie on the PGA tour like I mean it was like late 23 24 when he would like really burst on the scene you think about what what player like Rory baloy did before 24 you know what I I even like I always think like walking neeman’s a great example walking neeman’s still like only 24 he’s been right he’s been out there forever and it’s like we we and I think like this is this is a part of like you know I’m not gonna this is not besmer merching ludvig at all I think I’ve been super impressed but ludvig’s 24 he’s an old old old young player right and I think like age needs to be especially with golf it it did wasn’t as important when it took people a long time to figure out like oh the courses how to play the courses when everything wasn’t as dialed in as it is now where it’s it’s never been easier to be a young player on tour with the data and trackman and everything um but like age is always an important thing to consider because I do I I we’re g to see we’re we’re seeing less and less players like I mean 40 used to be like you’re still a favorite and 40 is like I can’t believe this guy’s 40 like look at like Adam Scott and Justin Rose Justin Rose playing yeah shocking to see it Jason day is an old old man and that used to be like kind of like a normal age to be on the PGA tour sozy I think it’s just an important thing to note with these players is is we’re and I think like PJ tour U has created this like very big incentive for the top players to stick around with that card but at the same time you know like these guys are are getting out there at 23 when I think a lot of them could be out there when they’re 19 they’re they’re that level of talent right like I you’re seeing it now with these 16year olds that are coming on and like bursting on the scene and and like making cuts at 16 like we remember like special special players like Tiger Playing uh the Riviera he didn’t make the cut like the these kids now like they’re more equipped they’re better than ever and and like you said with Rah like I mean listen like he’s gonna be 30 like this is not he’s not a spring chicken he feels young because he hasn’t been around that long because of how old of a rookie he was right yeah yeah by the way I think I said he had one major obviously he’s got two yeah I mean you you know Andy I was it’s funny I was listening to I was listening to this Kobe Bryant interview last night with big cat and A-Rod I think it was like years ago for pardon my take or something I mean I think it was maybe 2017 or 2018 the biggest water ever seen in my life well I’ve been I you know I ran into I ran into a former major Champion like my that looks like my hole in one jar from back in the day I ran into a former major Champion a tennis player and he was toing around this monster jug I’ve always wanted a monster jug of water said something and he’s like this is this is the way this is the way you hydrate uh just so people listening that aren’t watching Andy’s got like a 60 ounce mason jar that he’s drinking water out of with no eyes it’s it’s been super effective for me like I like I just I’ve been I I feel more hydrated than I’ve ever been so no Stanley sponsorship for the fried egg but if the mason jars Want to sponsor works for Ball Corporation all so listen I was listening to this Kobe interview and they were talking about Kobe’s decision to turn pro out of high school and he was talking about how he felt like he had the skill set to play professional basketball but what he said was there were so many players in the NBA that were getting later in their careers that he said I want to watch them I want to play against them and I want to learn from them on the court and I think your point about staying around in college or maybe not turning pro to your 20 3 or 24 if you turn pro at 18 and you’ve got the skill set to be able to stick around and keep your card you’re going to be watching your quote unquote professional peers you’re gonna watch Scotty you’re gonna watch Rory you’re gonna watch Walken you’re gonna watch that crew of players and you’re G to be able to pick up things that they do the way they practice they the way they go about their business maybe your game isn’t great for two years but the stuff you’re going to learn in those two years is going to be massively important for when you start to feel comfortable in those moments so yeah I think it’s a really interesting thing about PJ toru does a great job of of incentivizing players to stay till they’re seniors because you could get a PJ tour card or you could get a ton of starts on the corn Fury tour which is huge for these players but if you’re a generational level player maybe Michael thoron you know when he’s not injured is generational lot Vig maybe generational right you know John ROM potentially generational type of player maybe there is a level of thinking about turning pro a little bit earlier so you can get those reps alongside the appear you’re going to be competing again against in the next four or five years I think the problem like I think if the PGA Tour system was a little bit more um accessible and I I I think the idea of like like you finish a Col like if you’re a college athlete like think about this like if you’re a college golfer and I’m a sophomore finished my sophomore year and I I I’m thinking about turn pro and it’s like well like 60% of the Corn fairy schedule is done I’m not getting a card that way um the PGA Tour the only way I’m getting up there is if I finish top five in Q School in this one tournament against a lot of great players or or through corn Ferry which is which is basically like it’s a crapshoot for me to get into that top 30 that and with that few starts like the whole system and like I mean this is like a d dnamic with the sport that that I I believe is holding some young players back um is that like it is unlike any other sport where the college golf schedule ends in the middle of the professional golf schedule like no other sport works this way right like and college football and the NFL end roughly at the same time and the offseasons align the n ba like college baseball doesn’t just extend through the summer it ends in the spring and it like I guess college baseball might be the only comp right where your season ends and it’s the middle of the MLB season so there’s the comp but you’re being drafted into a farm system for a team and you join like I think this is like it’s really a broken and we saw before PGA Tour you a Ed their rules I can’t believe we’re talking about this in the US Open we we’ll move past it when you’re done but before PGA Tour adapted their rules the you adapted their rules we were seeing an influx of players like Davis Riley Wills Al Torres turn pro in the middle of the winter basically at the end of The Fall season they were leaving their and it was it was smart move because it’s like I align my schedule with that year and I think like listen like I think it’s a great change of like but I think that PGA Tour you should be like hey if Jackson Coen was the best player in college golf this year he should get a EXA he should he should get his PGA Tour card right like I think that’s the way it should work didn’t it’s kind of silly to me that you have to be a senior to cash in I mean I think the the point of that is incentivizing guys to stick around but yeah I mean I think that seems like an old school way to think about it right yeah if you’re ready to go go cash in on your career we see it all over the place like what if Jordan spe had stayed till he was a senior would he have one major Andy I was talking to to Austin Greaser on the phone the other day obviously turned Pro this week at the corn fairy event I thought he s said something really interesting to me I was talking about preparing for the corn fairy and professional golf and he said the interesting thing is college golf courses and college setups are tougher than the corn fairy tour so he said I roll into the corn fairy tour and it’s not very intimidating because I played so many of these high level amateur events you know he nearly wins the US amateur at Oakmont he plays in the Masters like he’s checked all these boxes at tough places show you show up to the kft and you’re not that intimidated but again it’s such a short season you have that you’ve got to play excellent excellent golf in a four Monon run with the most pressure in your life to get your card or you’re kind of figuring out what you’re going to do the next year it’s not great but yeah we’re talking US Open so let’s move on I got something for you Andy go for it point you made it’s a point you made on the podt I think it was on shotgun start maybe Brendan made it but I thought it was a great point and uh I was thinking a lot about it the last couple weeks I cannot believe you’re drinking out of that jar Jesus I mean you could put like daffodils in that thing um you could put a lot of lot of flowers in your mason jar you got to try it out try it out giant get I don’t know how I don’t know if Amazon will ship that big of a jug so they will too talking about Rory and major championships a few weeks ago on the shotgun start and I thought you or Brena made a great point you said it feels like Rory used to play the the easy venues the best you think about his wins soft Congressional Valhalla kiaa like very soft and scorable you know he blows the field away at a lot of those places and now it feels like he plays the harder golf coures better and I thought it was astute I thought it was absolutely accurate when you kind of look at the way Rory has played and where he’s contended in major championship golf I also think about Rory at Pioneers number two and I think we love to gloss and glow about Rory’s driving I think maybe the most underrated thing in golf right now is Rory mckoy’s ability to pitch the golf ball you think about how many pitches he has around the greens I mean he can hit it low with spin he hits it high he holds out a lot he’s a very very underrated bunker player as well I think this sneaky plays well into Rory’s game it’s tough It’s gon to be tough even par is going to be a great score and you’ve got to be creative around greens and I feel like we don’t give we don’t give Rory the flowers we should in terms of pitching and chipping and I feel like he’s going to Showcase that this week at pioner number two and listen I’m not going to pick Rory I mean I think I’ve kind of done that um for the last decade and I’m a little tired of picking him but I will say I think that’s what he’s gonna get you that’s that’s fine I hope he does man I hope he comes up and and just and just and just buzzes me in the back with the victory but I feel like this is a place that if he can drive the golf ball at a Rory average level or above I think he’s got an incredible Advantage at a place like this consider considering the mix of power off the tea and touch and finesse around the greens I think something else that um I think like obviously the approach play is kind of the the the Delta for Rory right when is when his approach Place could I honestly think this this golf course might expose some people that we think are great approach play players that are kind of just like I hit it here and the golf course never punish punishes me can you give me an example of that I don’t really think I I I just think there’s probably like a lot of players like I think Rory probably gets a little over aggressive for a week in week out um player with his approach targets but I think here that aggression might pay off because it’s so punishing everywhere around the greens does that make sense yeah yeah like if if if if there’s a tuck flag and you miss it short-sided it’s going to be tough even if you miss it on the fat side of things anyway so it’s yeah that’s a great point I like that where I think like his approach play is like kind of like when it’s on it’s like all right get your popcorn um but here I think there are going to be a lot of players that like just like they miss a lot I mean I I’ll never forget Jeff OG’s quote years ago on on this podcast of like if you put me in the middle of the Fairway with a wedge in my hand on every hole I’d be happy if I hit 12 greens you know like I like I always I think about that all the time like this guy that W US Open saying this yeah at wink foot he’s saying that that’s crazy yeah it and so when I think about that I think like there is like an idea of like I don’t know it’s not about like how bad you’re you know how it’s more about like how many spectacular approach shots do you hit a given week and less about the average right because like average like average shots are going to get penalized here and I think that maybe the the the penalty for for being overaggressive here isn’t quite as high as Augusta National because there isn’t the water right like a like I’m just thinking about like trying to think about about the golf course in the I think you can be a little bit more it it feels like a golf course that you shouldn’t be aggressive on but it actually in turn is a golf course that you might want to be a little bit more aggressive on your approach play because if you short side yourself versus fat side yourself with some of these pins it it’s not a big difference but at Augusta National if you shorts side yourself you’re just dead you’re making bogey yep and there’s always a good place to miss I think like the good place to miss at Pinehurst is is where 15 handicappers Miss it’s short of the green these guys aren’t going to be like I’m I’m going to play it to the to short of the green and Pitch up like that’s not might happen if they’re in the waist sometimes but that’s not that’s not the way professional golf Works which is why this golf course is so playable for a 15 handicap and so diabolic difficult for um the world’s best players in the world the world’s best player so I you know I agree with that Rory sentiment I think he’s going to be off everybody’s radar this week like he’s not on my five things to watch and and I think that’s because you just like naturally are like I don’t think that’s a Rory course but I you know so much of the stuff is counterintuitive um all right I have Bryson on mine um nice I think he’s been kind of like a sneak maybe this the story of golf this year I mean Scott you still have to say Scott say Scotty you’d have to say Scotty and Nelly above Bryson but I think Bryson’s probably in the top three or four story lines I agree with you um we’ve seen him specialize like he specializes in that Valhalla Wing foot um oakill narrow Fairway thick rough type setup right that that’s where we’ve seen him play really well um this year Masters was like a revelation like oh my God like Bryson’s playing well at Augusta like and you know I I I want to say like he played really well in round one and it was like it kind of was like leaking oil after round one I but like he had a really good finish at Augusta and I think that Bry Piner number two on paper does not set up well for Bryson this doesn’t seem like a place that’s going to be super friendly but like my question is like are we seeing Bryson like become this like really great allaround player um have we seen him like he’s evolved and like my question is is this like the third evolution of Bryson Des Shambo where he came in as like this really good allaround player transformed into the into the Hulk became this early boy this big big boy this lumbering Maser of the golf ball that just hit it you know far and became this Specialist of this one setup and now has he evolved back into maybe the into the best version of him the best where he can hit it long but he has all the rest of the skills like I think this week is a really good barometer of like can Bryson like I think Bryson’s a special has you know became the specialist like okay this type of course like but is Bryson now like any golf course you put him on you have to consider him a top five seven favorite and this week is a big barometer of that um I I wholeheartedly I’ve said this before I wholeheartedly believe that what he’s doing on YouTube is making him a better more well-rounded player playing these like weird formats he played Hickory Golf like I think this stuff makes him better I think like he’s playing the one Club challenge with Sergio I think without a doubt this stuff is taking him out of that super analytical this is the way I play golf and showing him other ways in developing his shot making skills still got the six iron link lob W I just don’t love it at this golf I’m sorry that’s my big concern maybe he puts everywhere yeah I mean maybe my I I feel like this is like the worst Golf Course for Bryson I mean if he made the cut I’d be shocked so this is this is why I’m super interested like what if he if he if he contends here this is this is kind of like the the obviously I’m not comparing to Bryon the Tiger but I think this may be to your what your point is here is like is this tigers’s Hoy Lake right where it’s like I’m just gonna take driver out of my hands and I’m still gonna beat you guys right it’s like I’ll just take this thing that once was a big weapon of mine out of my hands and I’ll just sit iron off every te and I’m still good enough to play and contend against you it’s I think for Bryson here it’s power probably not a the biggest Factor you’re going to see at other major venues right obviously not nearly as big a factor as you saw Valhalla Augusta still leans into Power if you could hit a long way and hit it relatively straight I think trun if you beat it at any open course it probably helps even though I think trun might be on the lower end of those types of golf courses I just feel like what Bryson does well I don’t know if this place really kind of you know like highlights those things and what he does poorly at times I think is important around pinor number two so yeah I think it’s a it’s a great point if he plays well here it could be Bryson’s you know big moment of I can contend any place it doesn’t matter all right what’s your last one it’s Scotty sheffler I knew you were G I knew I knew I just left him off mine because I knew what we were GNA talk about him yeah yeah for sure this he’s my pick to win though I’m picking Scotty I haven’t I haven’t picked him in one and done I somehow talked myself out of the Masters I’m not doing it this time right so I was thinking about Scotty cheer and pioner number two because I think you said you you touched on it earlier Andy and I’ll get your points on it um in a in a second it feels like legitimately the perfect setup for Scotty sheffler if you asked you know the USGA to set up a US Open golf course I was thinking back to 2015 right the Jordan spe run so he comes off the Masters which is a golf course that I think Jordan spe in modern you know in modern pro golf understands and plays as well as anybody that plays Augusta now Scotty’s probably replaced Jordan in that in that you know department but for six seven years it was Jordan spe and Augusta what US Open venue does he have after that Chambers Bay which is probably the best US Open golf course that Jordan spe will ever face don’t have to drive the golf ball extremely straight lean heavily on your iron play and make a lot of8 to 12 Footers and he was doing that as good as anybody in the world in 2015 right when he goes on to win then what do Scotty get the next stop or what is what does spe get at the next stop in the open Roa yeah and right I mean super wide kind of plays into Jordan’s hands he’s a shot out of the playoff nearly wins three in a row I feel like this lineup for Scotty Val Val might have been the worst setup possible to totally agree totally agree like sep driving yeah and so when you’re looking at the US Open venue I think back to 2015 and Jordan set up extreme extremely well for Jordan he had a great run at the at the major championships then and I feel like right now Scotty comes off the win at the Masters has the the weird ass situation at the PGA and doesn’t play well in that third round and that really was it for Scotty I mean was Inc contention outside of the third round and now you’re getting to a place that if you’re like all right man do you need to drive it you know relatively straight and long helps sure Scotty does that great you need to be a great iron player that hits your spots with almost every iron you have in your hand yep Scotty does that oh and by the way are you a very good pitcher of the oh yeah I’m one of the best in the world all right here’s Piner number two for you I feel like if there’s ever a place to put a a bet in or or talk to your friends about a guy doing what kimer did in 14 it feels like Scotty could win this thing by six seven eight shots considering the golf course in his skill set yeah I um listen like if there’s going to be one player that I think will separate lift and make this a weekend snoozefest it’s Scotty shuffler just for all I think like the biggest thing is that I just think he’s going to be playing from better positions than everybody else I think the driver I mean we talk about the iron play we talk about the the short game I think a lot the driver is so good like he’s not the longest guy out there and I love how people like point it’s like well the number one player in the world is like 60th in driving distance it’s like well he Still’s got plenty of gas in the tank he’s hitting it he’s SE to pass 30 pass more in the final run of the master right like I mean you know I mean this this guy’s got another gear yeah and and the thing about his driver is he’s so accurate it’s the same thing is it’s an extension of the iron play why the iron I mean the iron play is extraordinary but the driver is just an extension of that like he’s a great long iron player because he he hits it so precise with his long irons the driver is such a weapon it’s not going to jump off the page on paper when you look at his number of dri his driving distance number but the Precision of it is just like it is always in the window right he just doesn’t miss his windows and I think like at a golf course like Piner is like he’s just G to give himself more if he’s driving the ball decently he’s gonna give himself more opportunities to hit irons which irons are the thing that he does better than anybody else and then you know he’s in the top three pitchers if he misses the green like I just think this is this is a prime Scotty sheffler week I I um if he if he’s got his b game I have a hard time I like you know if Scotty sheffler has his C game what where do you think he finishes I mean he I think he contends with a c game I think he contends at the US Open with a c game that’s that’s the way I feel I feel like it it like it’s like a t T4 If he if he’s got a SE game oh I mean what was it was it ‘ 05 when tiger was chasing Campbell and it felt like tiger had a c game and nearly won there right I mean it it kind of feels very similar to Scotty this week it’s like if he has his best stuff he’s going to Martin kimer the field if he has his seame he’ll have a chance to win and I mean that’s a scary thing and I think Andy everything you said about Rory and aggressiveness with the approach play I feel like that could all be applied to Scotty if not applied heavier to Scotty where he can be more aggressive knowing I can miss greens and still get the ball up and down I think that’s an interesting Scotty’s a super conservative player I think that’s like I I think that that would be my one thing where like what’s the adjustment period for him to possibly shift his strategy to become a little bit more aggressive um he might be right out of the gate I think like I think that’s like probably an underrated um thing that people don’t talk about with Scotty and and Ted Scott is those guys seemingly prepare for golf courses as well if not better than anybody else and I think it’s easy when you look at like how he hits the ball to say that but I think their game plan in general Ro like Scotty Doesn’t Like give away stuff so I I I I think I have some Faith like you’re saying like I think like if if it becomes who can who can take on a little bit more risk better than anybody else it’s the guy that hits the best ironbat shots on tour right yes yes I mean and and again like Andy I think and you can correct me here but the one part of Scotty’s game that isn’t the best in the world is is the putting and it feels like at Piner number two when you get on these greens in veriable positions the putts aren’t extremely difficult I mean they can still be tough but it feels like once you find yourself on these difficult greens to hit that’s not the hardest part of the golf course I think the thing about Scotty is like it’s similar to zalot Taurus where it’s like I I’m like terrified if he’s 10 ft away that if I was playing against him I’m like I would be terrified anytime like seven or I think he’s like very good outside of 8 feet like like he to me it seems like he makes a lot of 20f Footers like just this is anecdotal me watching golf but it seems like he makes a lot of mid-range putts I think the issu is a little bit on the short short putting side of things but I yeah I’m not really worried I I think like the guy his floor is so insanely High all right my last thing uh I think Xander took our our best player without a major off the board I think he was like by far the best player without a major um when I’m when I’m zooming out so I think like we’re back to like who’s the best player without a major um you got Ricky eight wins of players he’s finishes second in every major except for the PGA which he’s finished third and and play played played great pineur when he was your last time nine top fives and 13 top 10 he’s not playing Great Golf right now um but he played well last year’s US Open you got Victor eight wins a FedEx Cup title uh only three top fives in Majors obviously the three top fives have come in very short order recently uh again when you talk about young players like he turned Pro before a senior year so he’s a little bit younger than you would think like he’s not a he wasn’t a 23y old rookie so Victor is still young um even though he’s been out there for a while now Patrick Klay eight wins only one major top five 29 Stars crazy crazy what was that was that 2019 Masters yeah he’s not playing good golf either um yeah and um max hom six wins one major top five obviously that was this year’s Masters 19 starts not that many starts Tony Fenix now six wins four top fives and Majors 10 top 10s in 32 events like I kind of like I think it’s like feno or Victor it’s Victor for me it’s it’s for sure Victor I just feel like the play of late in the majors and I mean I think you know you’re forgetting that you’re talking about his top fives and the way he’s played in the majors I mean you forget final group at the open two years ago playing alongside Rory like a lot of different experiences in the majors over the last couple years and obviously I mean you know going back to to Mr Mayo seems to have been a an incredible Elixir for Victor so I again I don’t think this it seems like an odd it might be an odd pairing it might be an uncomfortable pairing but it works that’s sometimes how life Works listen some sometimes those teammates on basketball teams aren’t the most normal of people together but they work together I I mean look at Steph and Draymond for goodness sakes you know I don’t think you’d necessarily pair those guys up personality wise but they’ve won a lot of championships together I don’t think this is a great Golf Course for Victor hin personally um because I’m again if you’re GNA expose a part of the game you hate that it Expos the part of your game you struggle with the most um that being said who the heck knows with Victor it seems like he came out of nowhere at that PJ Championship so I would say Victor is my easy answer for best player currently without a major championship yeah I would I I would agree I think like fow’s a sneaky second I thought about putting like Tommy Fleetwood in there but he just there’s just not enough of a a winning resume um outside of that no you can’t have but I think we’re at like the stage where it’s like I I think Victor nobody deserves a major right like you don’t look at anybody and it’s like we’re back to the stage where you feel like everybody who who really deserves a major has a major maybe outside of Victor I would say probably outside of Victor you could maybe make that argument for Ricky from back in the day just because good as good as Ricky played back in the day at the majors you know what I’m saying so it’s uh it’s just like we’re back we’ve normalized again where it it’s it’s there but um all right Shane who your pick is Scotty your pick I’m gonna go cam Smith he’s Scotty yep Smith I got Scotty what do you think the winning score is going to be I think three under wins I think I’m gonna go to six wow okay okay only one person ever at a US Open of pioner has got to 600 to win so um I mean actually only one person’s ever gotten a 300 to win so we’re both kind of going off the off the norm over the last few years so all right well this should be a great uh great US Open uh look forward to watching it and uh hopefully you know people who listen on on Sunday morning will listen to your uh your final round broadcast at corn corn faer BMW baby jump in I think we’re on at uh maybe like 700 p.m 5:00 P p.m something like that Eastern just you’ll figure it out be there’ll be you know a few thousand people that will listen to this by then there you go all right thanks Shane we’ll talk to you soon no problem buddy anytime