THE PATRIOT Matthew Slater is in the building! We’re breaking down Slate and Jules’ legendary performances in Super Bowl LIII. We dive into Matthew’s incredible 16-Season (Soon to be HOF) career with the New England Patriots, what it was like to play for Bill Belichick & to team up with Julian, his perspective on the dynasty, and much more.
00:00 Intro
02:58 Matthew Slater Joins the Show
07:09 Life as a Retired Athlete
13:20 Watching “The Dynasty”
17:08 Batman & Robin
21:16 Edelman’s Helmet Toss
25:05 Who Hated Jules the Most?
28:20 New Era in New England
31:32 Living With Jules
37:08 Special Teamers
43:58 Fatherly Wisdom
47:33 On This Date
54:21 The Rams Had Guys
1:00:43 Meet the Patriots
1:07:53 Rams Pass Interference
1:10:51 Game Planning for Aaron Donald
1:17:47 A House Divided
1:21:01 State of the Union
1:26:24 Slow Paced Super Bowl
1:31:22 Game-Winning Drive
1:34:58 Game Saving Play
1:37:07 Crazy Super Bowl Stats
1:39:30 Parade Stories
1:42:13 Super Bowl Aftermath
1:46:50 Down with the Dynasty
1:54:39 Score the Game
1:59:02 Wrapping Up
2:04:50 Hitting the Hotline
2:11:41 Outro
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I had two work wives in my career Julian and mccordi now who’s the main who was the main stay it was Julian was a primary work you tell mccordi he a side piece okay he’s a side piece today we have an unbelievably special guest 10 Time pro bowler 16-year veteran the greatest special teamer of all time Matthew later we are looking at Super Bowl 53 Patriots vers the rims this was a special teams battle 15 total punts and then the bonus my guy was the MVP what made you great was that you were so ultra competitive yeah I was to let go yeah a lot of guys probably didn’t like me but you respected me there’s no doubt after this game did you start to feel in the back Dy was falling down with the ship that was our motto you went down with the ship I was like one of those violin players on the Titanic I was one of the Lifeboat workers that had to go down with the Lifeboat but still live well I’m deadone I’m fully gone I can’t games with names is presented by win Los Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor and is a production of iHeart Radio welcome to games with names presented by windlock Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor today’s episode is Super Bowl 53 the Rams versus the Patriots with Matthew Slater the captain we talk old funny old funny real funny locker room stuff roommate stuff who hated me the most in the Patriots lock room surprising surprising answer it was not the answer I was expecting baby it does make it makes a lot of sense when you think about it you got to think about it got to think about it and our thoughts on the end of the Dynasty and which character Matthew Slater was in Titanic the movie when the boat sunk and then we’ll wrap it up by hitting the old hotline and again that number is 424 291 2290 let’s start it up Go Games with names is brought to you by Win Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor Win Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor are the ultimate destinations for sports lovers enjoy the sports book play golf eat at a great restaurant and stay in luxury accommodations sign up for win rewards and redeem for Resort credit let’s go February 3rd 20 2019 mercedesbenz Stadium Atlanta Georgia star studed defense high flying offense the Old Guard versus the new but this lowc scoring Affair will come down to special teams this is Super Bowl [Music] 53 first eight let’s go oh oh that’s awesome welcome to games with names presented by wi Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor today we have an unbelievably special guest not just a what 13 time team captain 10 Time pro bowler we got a three time Super Bowl champion 16 did we play 16 slate somehow fooled them for 16 16 veteran probably not probably is going to go down as the greatest special teamer of all time Matthew Slater and even crazier my my former roommate for three years Matthew welcome to games with n it’s great to be here it is this is awesome We’ve Come Along long way from that 28 pacing Road there in Foxboro we’ve come a long way a long way we got Jack and Kyler here old Jackie’s been he he’s been all excited about this and Kyler has literally been practicing his p sets in the kitchen because of your father I love it I love it I got to say welcome back to slate this is a little piece of trivia our first ever guest on games with names an unreleased the unreleased episode remember I remember that it was our Test episode our Test episode yes pilot the pilot pilot episode it was pilot now we got the real de ho I love to see how well the show is doing no surprise though what you no surprise it’s coming along slate it’s doing great it’s better now we got you on here it’s doing great no they got you get out of here today we are looking at Super Bowl 53 Patriots versus the Rams why’ you pick this game slate well two reasons I picked this game number one this was a special teams battle 15 total punts so for someone like me I really enjoyed it um secondly um playing against the Rams my childhood team my dad’s team 20 years is a ram so this was special for our family and then the bonus third reason my guy was the MVP yeah and I mean you know that was you know I was never going to win a Super Bowl MVP the next closest thing would be you winning it uh what a special uh memory this was uh great game look forward to talking about it funny story about that me and Bill we were going out and we were doing some stuff for the MVP coach stuff and he looks at me goes [ __ ] I would have gave gave it to Slater literally he literally says Slater was MVP no no my God what’ you have 10 for 131 I don’t know 141 something like that 141 he knows what it was no I don’t know slate you’re anyways you kept 10 for 141 10 for 141 okay I was 10 yards off but I mean I just remember you know it was a struggle for us offensively that game and you really kept us going you kept us you know we had some momentum you had some big conversions when we need it and it felt like every time we needed a play you made the play and uh I was just riding with you from the bench yeah every minute I was like yeah get open you know and and that that team was a really good team that Ram team uh akib and those guys obviously Aaron donnald their defense was I thought one of the best in the league at the time so for you to do what you did was was really special 100% we’ll get into the game and and Wade Phillips and you know our Revenge that we had to have on him because of that you know Denver matchup we had in 15 and we were pretty much a depleted Weaponry group uh so but we’ll get into that what’s life looking like as a retired athlete now big guy you it’s different as you know um look I’ve been playing football since I was 13 and we always had that path forward like all right we’re working towards something there’s a ton of structure uh we could tell people no matter what month it was hey I’m going to be doing this in March or this in April and May and now it’s just kind of like that structure has been pulled away and it’s it’s challenging um so you know we’re navigating that but what I love most is the family time you know with four young kids at home it allows me to be there and to be present and to be a dad be a husband so I’m really enjoying that well people don’t realize when you retire as a professional athlete especially a professional athlete that played a long time like you you know athletes are creatures a habit that’s right you know and and we’re all used to on Thursday getting that red schedule this red schedule that told out our life by the hour where we had to be what we had to do and and a lot of guys get in trouble and that’s pulled away from them because they they don’t have the routine given to them so for a lot of the athletes that are retiring what I’ve learned through my experience is I was such a routine guy I that I had to create my routine you got to create a routine because you need you need to have something that you’ve been doing for such a long time now you know the routine is going to be different where you’re going to be picking up kids you’re going to have to find your time to get a workout you’re going to have to do whatever meetings you got going but you know it’s a it’s a struggle for you know athletes in this in this time but with a guy like Matthew he’s the he’s literally the model of of how to be a professional athlete and and whatever you jump into I’m I’m going to try to make you you know I’m going to try to sell you on doing your own podcast we got to get you going here but whatever you’re going to do you’re you’re going to be at the highest level of that and no one’s ever going to worry about you well I appreciate that but you know like you said I mean that structure and that routine is something that I’ve had in place since I was a child yeah uh all of us like you’re saying and just not having that is I’m having to create and find a way to create a routine and and to have some continuity um you know I almost feel like as football players we’re kind of like soldiers right we get a command and we go execute it and we thrived doing that especially play playing for Coach um so I’m I’m trying to find a new Commander maybe it’s my wife maybe it’s my future boss that fully right now it’s definitely my wife fully she’s definitely given the marching orders and I’m just trying to executed so uh it’s you know it’s a process that transition is a process who’s the wildest person to hit you up since the retirement oh man well there there have been a lot and I certainly appreciate hearing from all the guys that we play with uh you know I think that’s what means the most is is hearing from the guys um you know some of my dad’s old teammates that saw me as a young pup and really kind of rais me with him in the game of football and then obviously like talking to coach coach and having dialogue with Coach about you know the time that we spent together uh super thankful to have had the experience with him uh it was a special time that we were a part of so thankful for everybody that’s reached out and shown support and it makes you feel like you had somewhat of an impact on people’s lives uh not just football-wise so did you have that conversation with Bill before the season or was he still around when he had did you have the conversation cuz I remember my conversation with Bill you know Bill’s not the most sentimental guy so I wasn’t going to go try to you know strum at the sentimental cords but I did mention to him uh before our last game that you know I thought this would be it and you know I just thanked him for everything and I hope he knows how much I appreciate everything that he’s done for me um you know his Focus was just on going out there and beating the Jets so I didn’t want to get too too emotional or sentimental but I appreciate coach you know him and I had a great relationship and you know I appreciate everything he’s done for me did you not instantly feel a switch flip when you when he when he knew that you were going to retire he became kind of a you I I remember when I told him that I was retiring I was expecting like look like you know this that whole it was more of he was like nourishing with it right AB you know which a lot of people wouldn’t you know think that especially with a group of guys that have been in the system for a while you know like you you felt like he was going to do everything to help you for the process that’s what I helped with absolutely you know and Co you know look there there’s always a part of me that was a little bit intimidated you know when it came to coach because like he’s such a strong figure and he was so demanding as a coach uh but there were moments that he would surprise me all the time with how supportive he was or thoughtful he was about different things and I don’t think that gets talked about uh enough um and certainly you know I’ve seen both sides of it but you know he was very supportive of me this year I think he knew without us talking about it beforehand that it was it was coming towards the end we had some conversations about things moving forward in the future and what they look like uh without me there and then certainly at the end there he was very supportive um expressed his gratitude uh to myself my dad him him and my dad were talking after the last game in the dining hall and I was like you know they’re my two football like icons right there um two football dads yeah essentially my my two football fathers you know there was that that shift that you’re talking about and I certainly appreciated like being on the other side of that you know now as a former player so you know speaking of both sides have you been watching the dynasty I have been I have been watching now now you know this is interesting this dynasty you know know I I caught up on the episodes and I’m not sure how I feel about everything I mean it’s tough you know I know there’s Sometimes some comments that I made on there that that made it seem like Bill was just this like very demanding presence and he was uh but I also want people to see they like they’re multiple sides of Bill right and you know it it’s tough because I feel like he’s being portrayed in a a certain light and you know that you know we’re painting a picture but we’re only showing people uh part of the picture with with Coach it’s very complex and there are things that you know we’re tough and I’m sure we all feel like hey maybe we wish we had done things this way but let’s make sure none of us forget the fact that uh the Dynasty is not even being talked about without bill bich and the things that he did were with intentionality and purpose and I think he got the best out of all of us uh I don’t know this whole thing is it’s a little crazy crazy I mean have you has anyone what you say Bill didn’t kill the people that Aaron Hernandez did I mean what do you mean did you not see that in the dog it was like his Falls [ __ ] I mean you said it Kyler that’s why I’m here I got no comments on that I mean I think he held his hand I I got no comment I mean it’s tough I mean look I I don’t know what you I’m curious to hear what you think about his portrayal and then just the work in general I mean look it’s it’s always hard to tell a story as complex as the one we lived in you know 10 episodes right there just so many more things that took place that give context to what really happened so I honestly think if you’re in your 30s and you’ve played football I don’t think you ever liked your football coach you loved them but you you didn’t like your football coach just like I didn’t like my parents when they made me do things that they knew was gonna make me a better person I didn’t like doing it right we didn’t like doing it work’s not easy right you know doing the little [ __ ] for Preparation doing walkthroughs for walkthroughs for walkthroughs I hated it I bitched about it all the time but we needed it right you know and that’s why you went into every single game knowing you out prepared that team and you had a shot to win every single game it just came down to execution and you know and usually because of how we practiced how hard we practiced how much we practiced how many reps we got mentally you know we execute at high sit high high level in in those crucial situations no question and to your point you know maybe maybe there were times that uh many of us didn’t like coach but we always loved and respected him yeah there was no question about that we always knew that he was pushing us to be the best version of ourselves like our parents would and well W wel out here saying like what eron Hernandez got away with murder like and not figurative speaking about like at practice that’s not even true weler painted the picture like he got he was like the king like he got to do anything I remember Bill [ __ ] AR Aaron all the time come on wel try to make up story we know you don’t like Bill Wes I ain’t even say nothing man I’m just sipping my water here man I’m sipping my water Wes just say it you know I love you Wes you know I I love him too but you you could clearly tell that he hates Bill what was up with the Chris interview Chris Long interview last week oh yeah you want to talk about that yeah yeah can we play that back somewhere you know cuz my man what’s up dog I just want I just want the people to know and I’m glad that I’m glad that you brought this up and I’m glad that DOA let you you know borrow his hat there because oh you know we used to have this conversation who’s Batman who’s Robin and you know you know football aside I’m not getting into the Batman Robin conversation well that’s what it’s about it’s about was not it was about more than football it was about more than football it was about football but it was also about off the field appeal joines handsomeness Charisma Charisma got that is you know and it was very clear to me that doah had the edge I I don’t know what you want me to say what do you want me to tell you I don’t know what you think is what you think Batman doesn’t say he’s Batman he doesn’t you’re right he doesn’t the man the Batman has exactly exactly right you know I’m going to stand by that we’re here I’m going to have to stand by it Dola come show him how it’s done Robin’s here he’s got your gear on go get the I me we see we see DOA in the hot tub over here giving the the bottel looks and stuff wasn’t do with an agency wasn’t he wasn’t he with a modeling agency out here in La Ford modeling were you with Ford modeling n okay there it is n it wasn’t trying to Prov my point there now DOA didn’t have the do didn’t have Super Bowl MVP DOA don’t have you know these postseason records DOA do have the what do we got 600 plus catches career do didn’t have all that so you know the edge is clearly you know edles on that you know but everything else Doo’s got a strong case there’s a difference between being Bruce Wayne and Batman that difference being Bruce Wayne out out in the public is Bruce Wayne okay fair enough behind the Dark Shadows The Dark Knight has to come out okay I can live with that I used to love those meetings though I to when Chris brought that up I just thought about how we would be sitting in those meetings and it would be OA DOA was down in front of us and it was you and I half the time Doo would be drawing some photos little tongue out he’d be drawing pictures of O’Shea and you and practice but that I mean that was a great time that was a special time man we had a special room with guys who really cared and loved each other and love the game love the process and uh you know it’s no surprise to me in hindsight that we had this success that we did because we had good people I I 100% agree and and I I loved what you said over on Greenlight talking about chadio and and Ivan you know the the unsung hero coaches we all know of the scaros and and and Coach bellich but uh you know CAD o Shay like you said had to deal you know up and down up and down roller coaster you know what Chad was his demeanor was fantastic right like he had the perfect demeanor to deal with guys like you guys like Wes guys like Randy you know like it was he was here he was level and the what made you great was that you were so ultra competitive and you know we’re all crazy in our own way we played football for most of our lives like we’re all tapped but it was that controlled tapped shall we say that allowed you to be successful because when the game was on the line or was a highly competitive situation you always answered the bell and you brought out the best in everyone and Chad knew that he understood that and he was the perfect coach in my opinion for you uh you know as you ascended into the player that you became now do you ever recall a time where me and chadam almost fought I wasn’t going to bring that up for the kind audience out there who loves Julian Edelman but there were several times where where you and Chad almost fought and you know for the people that don’t know out there we called the the Edelman helmet toss now you know many of guys have thrown their helmet but practice you used to slam your helmet with consistency at least once a week and I’m talking about jaw pads flying cuz we’re old enough where there were still jaw pads jaw pads flying stuff flying and you’re yelling the first guy You’ yell at cuz you can’t yell at Tom you’re not going to yell at your teammates y you’re yell at Chad you ain’t yelling at Bill you’re yelling at Chad and you’d be yelling at Chad and some days Chad would just take it and St then you know other days Chad you know Chad was like no I’m not having that so then you and Chad are over there going at it yelling at each other and I used to just sit over there and laugh to myself cuz I was like these two cuz I knew you guys obviously cared about each other so much but there was just so much passion and intensity and uh practice was flat if practice was flat you knew the Edelman head toss was coming right I was [ __ ] breaking the goddamn helmet there’s no doubt just to let these Young Bucks know this [ __ ] is D [ __ ] and you know what though I will say this I had a greater appreciation for that after you retired than I did while you were playing because I realized that what you did increased the urgency and accountability amongst the guys it brought an edge to our group and we were missing that edge once you left we were missing it and we really never replaced it um you know in terms of a guy that would come out there really getting guys faces but hold guys accountable to a standard uh we didn’t have that and and that was a big part of what you did um and I think you know that’s something that you can’t measure it’s not a stat it’s not this but it made our team a championship caliber team that’s something that we all felt when you were first introduced to the Patriots yeah absolutely you felt Teddy brusi Kevin Faulk you felt their eyes you heard their comments trying to embarrass you with your effort or with your lack of knowledge or your lack of studying or your lack of preparation to embarrass you in front of everyone because a they were never going to be unprepared right B they were working their dicks off and and they were already in their 10th 13th 14th 15th year right you know so it made you bring your level up oh no question and then you know then you know the cycle of guys you become one of the the guys you that was I was there you were there we were there for8 seven years then it becomes your turn to hold people accountable because Tom couldn’t always hold people accountable because if Tom got on someone he gets on a younger receiver they’re going to put their tail between their legs right and they’re going to probably tank for the rest to practice so it was like my job to [ __ ] people for Tom because if Tom did guys they couldn’t handle it because they grew up watching this guys half of them weren’t even bored when he first got in the league you know I mean so it was like one of those things where yeah I was an [ __ ] yeah a lot of guys probably didn’t like me but you respected me there’s no doubt there’s no doubt about cuz I was there before you and I still left last year I was there before you and I was even after you there’s no doubt and everybody knew that quick question just cuz we’ve seen Jules we’ve hung out with him forever we know him from one side who didn’t like him the most in the locker room cuz I’m sure there was plenty who did I not get along well it just dependent on the day I mean there there all you know him and I were good for at least two or three blowups a year where something would come up where did we almost fight we almost fought in Oakland he was a deep returner I was a short returner the ball gets kicked I’m in my hometown slave nine yards Deep In The End Zone I give him the double hand stop he brings it out he brings it out of course he gets blown up inside the 20 so then I look at him him I say yo I gave you the double am stop I said if you do that again I’m not blocking for you and I’m telling everybody up there not to block for you then he goes f you f you you’re supposed to be the captain that ain’t no leadership that ain’t no Captain so we’re over there getting ready to fight you know coaches are pulling us apart guys are looking at us so you know you ask that question some days it might have been me okay other days it might have been Tom which I would love by the way Julian was the only guy that could really give it to Tom right like you know we all kind of wanted to give it to Tom sometimes he did something goofy we’re like a it’s Tom I can’t say anything this guy will be over there getting on Tom killing them in front of the guys and we’re all like trying to muffle our laughs but you could tell Tom like you know he was flustered he was flustered so it would just depend on the day I mean I’m sure at any point in time you get ask all 53 guys on the Rost 52 guys and they would say they hated him right you know him and Gilmore fighting in training camp day one pulling the dread out doing all this uh but again pulled his dread off and I remember remember it’s part of the Jersey it’s part of the Jersey I pulled his dread off I walked back to the locker room with in my head just outrageous like what what are we doing pulling the man’s dread out but I I’ll say this if you go back and you talk to all those guys that play with Julian they’ll all tell you they respected him they all tell they’ll all tell you he made us better and he brought an edge to our football team so and to your point like we were afraid of like letting our peers down and being embarrassed in front of our peers and you know that’s the difference like you know this next Generation the way they view history and the way they view like veterans in the league it is slightly different than than the way we came up like you know we revered uh Mike Vel Teddy brusi Rodney Harrison Vince Wolford Ty Warren Richard Seymour uh I’m missing you know dozens of guys Troy Brown Mr Patriot we revered these guys and we didn’t want to let them down we want to disappoint them and we were more afraid of them than bill at times and I think that enabled the culture to continue to to thrive and have success because one generation to the next it was like Hey we’re doing this for each other and we got to keep upholding the standard some fun years Bobs we had some times now we had some times we won a lot of football games too which made it you know extremely fun you noticed that shift in the last couple years it’s just different right and I don’t want to be the old guy that poo poos the generation uh that comes after me it’s just different and I think you know as Leaders you have to find ways to connect with that generation a little different um you know they’re they’re more invested in relationship Equity uh emotional intelligence um and I think you have to meet them where they are there and that’s fine uh and I think coaches right coaches are having to evolve these guys want to feel like they’re Partners in what’s happening where for us we would blindly take orders we wouldn’t ask questions for these guys maybe they need the why to what they’re doing um and that’s not a bad thing I mean that’s just it is what it is and you know it’s not smart of anybody to sit here and poo poo that generation I think you have to evolve and meet these guys where they are well the generation before us is poo pooing us like they certainly were there’s no I like that word poo pooing oh man I remember this just popped up my head I don’t remember I remember what was it there was a play on the sideline opposite sideline of our special team play you some who got who got you really mad where you almost swore a ke was it a ke I think it was a key what was it in uh The Joint practice no this was in a game I remember him going what the freak What Might Have Been a might have been a keep as well you know I I just want to set the ruggers straight in case a keep I love a keep ultimate competitor timate competitor you know a Hall of Fame player in my book but he would come out there and he you know he’s trying to put his hands on me strap me up push me out of bounds late and you know we had some battles out there he he got me out of character he definitely got me out of character so man AE he was so fun in the locker room oh he was a great teammate he was a great teammate I mean we were the years he we like six chains I’m like I’m only calling you un chain dog he only got one chain to me he got him snatched didn’t he he got it no he snatched crab snatch crab that’s right it was a reverse he snatched it oh he did he did he played for the this game he did he was yeah he was here he was old though he was no a I didn’t say it he said it a keep still in your Prime dog you I know you weren’t you thought you still had it he know no you still had it you were still smart as H the elite thought you were still the elite a would 100% agree he ain’t he said he he probably would say that like it wasn’t me that’s why he that’s why we were able to do what we did I did what I did you get ready say that’s why I was in P that’s what he would probably say that’s what he would probably say he probably say oh I wasn’t in my I wasn’t in my Prime oh man yeah but he had a pick six against Virginia Tech in the orange ball for Kansas he was a monster he a great player he was the reason why we lost in 13 because he h his hamstring once his hamstring was on he couldn’t stop nobody he was the best didn’t Wes didn’t they run an illegal pick play and Wes like give him a hit pointer or something I think West hit us with a bush League you know chicken winged him and W so he’s he’s just out for the Patriots Wes he’s out for him should have been our title Wes can we can we talk about roommate days oh let’s talk about roommate days those were the days eggnog time eggnog ebony and ivory together Perfect Harmony and I now you guys that good vocals over there you uh The Odd Couple that show what was that in the 50s or something that was us we were The Odd Couple but the thing I appreciated the most as different as Julian and I are we always were able to find common ground and uh that’s why it worked and people wonder why like how did you guys live together like we always found common ground and we had a blast that was fun man eggnog eggnog cookies cookie time he get mad at me cuz I never take out the garbage I he never took out I let’s be clear man never took out the trash can I just I mean it was brutal speaking of speaking of roommate though like so what was it in 14 when you just so we win the Super Bowl in 14 slate about to get married like three weeks later a week later I had to go out and I had to do a bunch of stuff I I didn’t go back to the house right away I go back the house for the parade slate takes communal TV took the TV took the dishes clean out the whole bottom level what do you want me to do I mean I’m not look I’m not a high flying high paid wide receiver I’m a kick cover guy I need my TV I need my dishes I need everything that I can possibly get my hands on cannot least give me like a I mean I should have given him the heads up heads up I should have given him a courtesy I came in I called the cops I like did we get do we get robbed I should have took the silare cleaned us out all the way needed that stuff they were getting out of frisbees for like months after too I man I’m sorry paper plate he was paper plate but you know what I think I think now looking back as we sit here in this plush space here I think my man did all right without that TV dishes right I think it worked out all right by the way that TV still hangs on the wall of my house I still have the TV that I replaced it with yeah that curb you got that curve T still got it when I that day I was so mad at him in a snow CH I had to go to best five got the best get w a Super Bowl I was like give me that curve thing oh man how big is it give me the bigger one he got the big dog wait but slate how did the how did the roommate situation get set up like what’s the origin of two guys in lock okay first of all you know Julian and I had instant connection uh two late round draft picks two guys from California two kind of underdogs so I think we always kind of two te people don’t forget you start as a team now come on baby he started as a teamer and you know he had to grind nothing was given to my man but anyways we go out there we play 2010 and then the lockout hits so I know my financial situation I got to get out of here I got to give up my apartment so I moved back home which I think you did too I was living in Pierre’s you were living in Pierre Woods Basement you’re right so we both gave up our living situation then when we came came back it was like hey we just got to make the team like I’m not thinking about where I’m living team’s paying for me to live at this hotel I’m staying there we got to make the team so when we made the team it was like oh shoot we made the team we don’t know where we’re going to live so we’re scrambling and I think Ryan Wendell had had because I was I went and lived with him for a little while before the in 2010 you lived with him yeah and then Ryan Wendell had this house so Doug King we we jump in Doug King by the way making a killing off people making a killing Monopoly just raking people anyways we moved in the house if your salary went up your rent went up there’s no doubt but Julian didn’t let that fly though he took care of n he had to he had to you know negotiate but anyways Ryan Julian and I were there the first year Ryan moved out and I was like hey man if you want to keep doing this we’ll keep doing this so for another three years so four years total we stayed at that house 28 pacing saved our duckets we had a couple we brought a couple had a couple you know we had Shane Marine shanine for a year we had we had delar R Roa in with us Del R Roa dir I mean we had we had some characters in and out there that was my that was my first exposure to Shane verine eating a Domino’s Pizza once a week oh my gosh once a week and then going out there and killing it in 15 catches in Super Bowl don’t understand the beauty of being young and being able to do that but man that that was a fun time man that really was and uh you know we grew a lot we we when we moved in he was just Julian by the time we left he was you know J1 or Julian Edelman or whatever they call him nowadays so you know I saw the whole maturation process it was beautiful thing I love that pacing those walls could talk oh they have a lot of tail a tail a lot cuz a few other Jokers I think Maryweather lives in that house before us should bring that shouldn’t bring that one Brandon couple guys live there before us speaking of teamers who are who are some of the teamers that impress you right now in the league oh man there are there are a ton of good ones it has it got a lot better yeah it really has I mean I feel like every team has you know some really great players George odm for the ners I think is as good as I’ve seen over the course of my career JT Gray uh Justin Hardy s Neil and then my guy Brendan schoer schoer who I think is you know he’s got just tremendous potential to be I think one of the great players that this league has ever seen I mean he’s he’s that good he’s long like he’s 6’2 he’s long and he’s strong and then he’s like legit fast like he’ll touch 22 mph so like this kid’s got all the tools who was the other guy that used or white Corey or no uh who you who where did he play um Cody oh Cody D Cody D Cody D Cody D is is uh too he he I mean he look he made he hit 22 mph and he looked like he’s jogging and you’re like man this guy can roll but I mean there’s so many guys that I didn’t name but I think the league is in a really great place where you go through the roster of almost every team and I can point out one or two guys that really jump out on tape and really have bought into the idea of playing in the kicking game at a high level uh you know I have a ton of respect for these guys nowadays they’re they’re taking the the bar to you know another level what’s the origin story of the field goal Block in Miami man well you know how it is when you sit in the room with Joe judge right you can take 20 minutes and you’re on a tangent about hey we should do this and last night we were talking about this so we get in there and you know these guys are like hey we got a tell on on their operation and it’s it’s pretty good it’s it’s pretty much 100% And I won’t disclose that in case they want to go back Jak Bailey Jake Bailey with guy shout out Jake shout out Jake come on guy but uh you know that we had a pretty good beat on it and there’s really one guy on the team that we trusted to do that like that has the ability has the length who can bend who has the quickness and get off and that was school and you know we’re practicing it during the week and you know and a couple of them the timing was like ah that ain’t it that ain’t looking good but our one of our assistant Joe Houston he finally got the timing and the steps with school um so when we got in the game and we needed a play was like all right we’re going to call it and I just knew I said if he can get the corner uh untouched or at least minimal contact he’s going to block it and he did a great job of just bending that corner you know timing it up and just you know again he’s the kid’s 6 to he’s long and and I saw it in in my Peri I saw it I said before he blocked I said oh he’s going to block it uh cuz he got through there untouched and you know huge play huge huge play yeah huge play yeah what’s the biggest misconception of teamers well you know I I think a lot of people think that playing special teams is is going out there you’re not thinking very much you’re just running and it’s chaotic but the reality is there’s a lot of communication that occurs on the field there’s a lot of thinking on your feet you know a lot that changes in the middle of plays and and you know you got the best athletes on the field the fastest some of the strongest biggest guys out there playing so you know I think people unell what it takes to play in the kick game you know I hear all the time well this guy’s big and fast he can play special teams well not necessarily can he think on his feet is he tough mentally and physically and is he going to compete at a high level like you got to compete every snap because every snap can be the difference between winning and losing so you know I think we get a bad rap sometimes but those guys that I mention right now that that are doing it at high levels across the league I think are changing that so Mount Rush of special teamers and I mean it’s tough right I mean it’s tough but if you’re G to make any kind of Mount Rush more you got to start with Steve Tasker Tasker I mean he’s The Godfather he he started us off uh he he really took it and elevated it to where it is uh today I I like uh Bill Bates who played with Dallas for 15 years uh and really was you know an an allout guy there’s another guy named uh Elbert Shel Shelby I think I think I was saying his name right who played in Atlanta who was a a great Gunner went to four Pro bowls uh so you know let’s give him and bat half a AE on that Rushmore and then I go current guys I go guys that you know maybe from our generation Lorenzo Alexander is a guy that I love just physical presence Rel Relentless effort in the way that he played and then Michael Thomas who was one of our contemporaries uh who he was in Cincinnati last year uh really you know you look at the last decade and a half you know depending on who you asked the top uh two one of the top two guys in the league the last you know 10 15 years so uh that’s my Mount rush I’m leaving off a ton of guys I hate doing Mountain Rush Wars cuz you always leave off well I mean you’re of course like yeah I I can’t put myself in that I you know I I tried to do my job best I so yeah but yeah there’s a lot of great players out there that I have respect for Mount Rushmore of r2s Julian Edelman definitely top R2 in the league I you know I don’t I don’t think people appreciate how good you were in the kicking game R2 and not just returning the ball I love the R2 covering didn’t I send you a clip of you covering down this year no but I I still remember when you were off sides in my tackle inside the five you always got to bring that up I was offside he had a tackle inside the five I was all K off that’s that’s very rare yeah so when we were young and spry the body could move God it was a good time had to block PP had to block Larry ISO Larry Larry honorable mention no doubt honorable mention Mount Rushmore no doubt I mean look without Larry ISO I never would have had a job in New England um you know guys like that and you know we always talk about like the skill guys in in special teams like the Gunners and the PPS but I think of guys like bour that are out there right now and other like uh you know a miles Kil Brew the size guys Reeves Maven and Detroit who made the Pro Bowl like you got to give those size guys some love too CU you know there’s a big man moving down the field CRA didn’t have size though well he was technically a size guy right Larry was listed as as 220 he probably was 205 205 but Larry we’re going we’re going to call you a size guy Larry going to call you a size guy but those were fun times man now your dad being Jackie Slater greatest right tackle of all time Hall of Famer how often did you talk to your dad during the season you know about football or did you how often was that a lot a lot honestly and you know I think when him and I would talk it would it would be more you know how you feeling physically where you at mentally you know kind of state of the team like we never really talked too much about how I was playing he’d asked me about plays and certain things like that but the the first thing every game I call him on the way home the first thing that he would say you know I thought the o line did this I saw this he watched our line uh with an Eagle Eye for 16 years I mean he could tell you you know in the third quarter it was third and five this happened with Marcus Cannon or Sebastian vulmer did this like he just loves interior play I mean that’s that’s who he is uh he’ll he’ll tell you a good big man’s always better than a good little man and he just loves uh that that part of the game so we always connected on that um we were always talking about our line and the way that you know they were playing throughout the season you know we enjoyed those conversations now how old were you when your dad retired so I was in fifth grade U so I was about 10 11 years old when my dad retired we moved to St Louis for his last year my mom did not want to go she was like can you just retire and he’s like I got to get 20 I got to I got to go try to get 20 so we moved to St Louis we were there for eight months and he he played he played in one game he was on pup he had a ruptured his tricep and he re retor it in rehab and they were like hey we just get you out there for one game get you that 20th year so they mummed his arm up he got out there and uh you know we were in and out of St Louis pretty quick so how how was it with you know being did you go to all the practices and had to be pretty cool seen Eric Dick it was a crazy experience for me as as a young person like growing up around the game and you know the love that I had for the game came from my dad but you know just to to be in the locker room to be at the practice facility to see him training to have his teammates come up and you know start talking to me you know Isaac Bruce was was a guy that I really loved he played with my dad towards the end of my dad’s career but even after my dad D retired I’d go back and watch him and Tory running routes and oh man it was just such a neat experience to grow up around the game yeah so you know I I have I remember I got to know Jack I used to call him big black jack yes you did BBG not never do his face no no just to me just to me we would laugh about that we would laugh about that and I’d be like and one time we had our eggnog time and I was on ir and slate went up to sleep you know me and old Jack sat back down you saw you know we saw that Crown you know on I was like yo M Mr slay you want took a little little Crown we sit in there after about two to three drinks I got Jackie in there showing me his p sets against LT he’s over here I used to give this to LT it was the coolest experience oh man I remember that cuz my dad loved the Rams growing up so he always talked and and my dad always talked about you know getting the hang out with your dad at the Super Bowls it was always so fun it was special for our families it really was all right let’s go back to around February 3rd 2019 this is a segment we do where we go through all the pop culture and just kind of see what was going on at this time number one movie glass did you see that I didn’t see glass it’s like the Jackie what was that that was M9 Shyamalan it was the crossover sequel to Unbreakable and split so it had Samuel Jackson Bruce Willis James McAvoy it was kind of like the the culmination of those two all right I’m G have to go watch that one glass it was all right if you like the M9 shamon thing I like him budget of 20 million made 247 million there we go pretty solid ROI ROI we’re box office guys here box office guys number one song seven rings by Ariana Grande you you remember this one no this was sort of the sing songy one uh that sounded like raindrops on Rose you know that one yeah I want it I got it I like it I bought it that one it’s okay Seven Rings we like over here Seven Rings yeah this is a nice call back we got to get Benny Blanc on the show right Benny Blanco Caitlyn Clark scores 60 in a high school love she’s killing it still she’s awesome she doing it back then she’s doing it now awesome this was just the start incredible pulled a little stat on Caitlyn Clark here on Three’s nil value rankings crazy that that’s a thing now in college sports fourth highest valued College athlete 3.1 million they say this year 31 wow Iowa too man she might as well go back she might as well UND deare for that Draft take more huh yeah you making more I mean she’s not going to make that WNBA she’s not going make right no she’ll make it an endorsement salary no shees El Chapo was found guilty in all counts bad guy El Chapo we may have met one of his Tigers we’re going to go back to the next line operation varsity Blues hits March we ain’t going to say nothing about brother Choo operation Varsity Blues hits USC what up I mean you’re doing all that just to go to USC all on man all that to go to USC to go to USC you don’t know what this was this is when Aunt Becky did the rowing thing all those I mean USC’s not even I mean it’s not even a good school that’s why I’m like you’re you’re doing all that to go to us I mean at least if you had gone to UCLA with that we would have felt like okay you’re trying to get into the number one public School University in the country yes just want number one we passed Berkeley for all those Bears out there Del Rose well is it isn’t a brew and a baby bear well I mean that’s what they like to say but you know it’s it’s one thing when the baby comes up and Rises and grows bigger than the original and and is better it’s like 2.0 okay we’re you know Superior obviously in the Sports World UCLA talk who is our one guy that linebacker Bruce Bruce Davis BD my God Whenever there was a UCLA guy slate would’ be all happy I love I love all myy UCLA yo you know I love Bill Walton over you ever meet Bill Walton I’ve never met Bill Walton huge fan though he’s my second favorite UC huge fan me too who’s your first Jack a Jack Jack yeah baby all Jack oh Jackie slate Patrick Mahomes MVP this year we won the bowl call colle football champion Clemson Heisman Trophy winner Kyler Murray that was uh Trevor Lawrence Clemson what’s going on my guy he needs to have a year this year I know gonna take big year for him Big Year got Mac Jones got M Jones putting that pressure on him now M daddy he’s back in his home environment that’s right that pill you know he’s getting some vitamin D so the depression is probably down back in his old child modeling days NBA streaks Russell Westbrook 11 straight triple doubles that’ll probably never be Bruins crazy another BR yeah I thought he went to us no no he didn’t go there he was there with me time oh you guys he don’t he don’t know me from Adam’s house cat but shout out Russell he should get to know you James Harden streak of 30 plus point games ends at 32 games is that that’s the record yep crazy that’s crazy Joker gets buckets he sure does notable NFL retirements Rivas Joe Thomas Jason Whitten James Harrison Dwight Frey wow that’s a list right there right before the season go is it is it this is their last year so Rivas is in Thomas is in I think F’s in too no James Harrison I mean was two-time Defensive play of the year right still one of the scariest dudes I was just going to say like literally like Ken State Alum shout out Ken State when he was on our team I was still afraid of the guy and the guy was like that joker is intimidating though I loved him oh oh my gosh he come in there with this Debo shirt on Debo cut off fitting I would pay to see him in the weight room I mean that guy’s an animal he lived in the weight room I I mean yeah and he wear like old sweatsuits that were like super baggy old gray remember yeah very deceiving cuz you you you can’t tell how big he is no you could see cuz he was only five he’s probably about 5’11 and he he was the he was five people wide oh my God man games with names is brought to you by my friends at wi Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor wi Las Vegas and oncore 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that season ended another loss to the Patriots uh bunch of guys on this team Jared GF young Jared GF Todd Gurley Aaron Donald Cory little Gurley in his this was Gurley Gurley Gurley was offive Player of the Year wasn’t he was he I believe so a to brought him in prior to the season you know he’s a Wade Phillips guy Andrew Whitworth was in his about 100th season here still Marcus Peters and Doin Su they brought in Brandon Cooks former Patriot prior to the season as well Greg the leg zerline Cooper cup was uht hurt for this one Torres ACL in November missed the rest of the season Johnny Hecker Johnny Hecker Johnny I mean I feel like it’s an all Johnny’s an all-time great now he was a bill of Johnny Hecker didn’t he Johnny Hecker was an alltime great punter is an who were the brother him or who were the brothers oh colquitz Coit yeah when you were next to the co quits or Johnny Hecker when you when you would be in warm-ups and you’d be next to those guys punting it sounded like a cannon going off those guys had such big Like Crazy Legs like and Johnny’s a big old dude too like 6’4 65 wait why would you be next to him like is that how they they i’ always walk by him I’d always just like eye him down trying to mind game you know my man’s trying to mind game him and never never look at him never look at him just I’d always look at their Punt and just shake my head now would other like returners actually like talk to those guys like they have the special team or Bond or no no the special like the Snappers punters kickers they have their own like they’re in their own world you know they’re in their own like Brotherhood which I respect I like how they I like how they operate they do mcafe would could try to come talk to me I never talk to him you know he try to butter you up you know there’s guys always trying to butter you up he was trying to butter you up always I’m like get out of here dude oh never look at him look at him now though oh this dude’s killing should have been taking that butter I would cuz that sucker’s doing it right now cinnamon butter that thing oh my God uh this yeah it’s late uh Gurley was offensive player the year the year before this so okay this team started 8-0 also had notable wins that Grazy Monday night game over the Chiefs remember that one the shootout Coliseum 50 points a piece 54 51 that was that was wild that was a big game for him that year um Aaron Donald led the league in sacks 20 and a half 20 and a half I mean he was by the way I just like to go on record and saying in my book He’s top three defensive player all time and on that list is LT Reggie White and Aaron Donald who’s the fourth who’s the who’s the Mount Rushmore those but those all big guys no no Ed Reads you know I give you I you almost got to yeah almost got to make a separate list right but those three guys changed the way the game is is played and looked at I mean LT is LT I mean his name will be as long as we’re talking about football we’ll be talking about LT can you remember any LT stories from Bill I don’t know that I want to repeat those this guy loved LT he loves LT he love and rightfully so he rightfully so um and then Reggie is like if you ask my dad Reggie’s the best cuz he had to go battle against him but to be you know 65 300 lb and move like that and be that strong um I mean I don’t I don’t know that we’ve seen a player with that physical makeup and then this Joker miles Garrett has he got that Miles Garrett has it but I mean miles Garrett don’t have that hump move like my man had that hump like he’s throwing 300 Pounders out the club with one arm you know and and this Jugger here this Sharon Donal now I tell you what which we’ll get into it to the game which makes it this this game was so impressive with how our offensive line handled them oh my God shout out Joe Toney Joe Toney had two one on one one stoned him twice on the drive when we needed I think best best Garden football right now Mr Slater would have been proud no doubt oh my God how about Joe tun’s career best guard in football right now and how many Super Bowls this guy won he’s gonna five is he at five he’s got five he’s got all of them with this was his last year with us but he didn’t win the 14 one he’s got 14 he’s got four he’s got four yeah right now I this guy’s this guy’s about to win this guy’s his winning percentage through the roof he’s a stud he is man guy great team awesome a little more on this Rams team some notable coaches we talked about Wade Phillips DC uh McVey was a deao OC another Patriots guy they had Jed fish on this staff zck Taylor current Bengals coach was a quarterback’s coach on this one John fossil special teams coach shout out bones and uh it was it was only mcvey’s second season head coach was he like 33 yeah full boy Genius Like Jules and I were watching on the patio like uh two days ago the the NFL films version and like he was fullon like Star Struck by bill before the game it really felt like it didn’t it oh man no sh watch so we were watching just to research this and stuff we were watching the NFL films on why the Patriots won I mean you would never have thought today that bill bich is is Bill bich after watching that I this is this guy’s the best he’s this like the greatest coach of all time now now Raheem Morris is getting a job over that media media turns on you quick and he told us that remember that quick he told us that there’s going to be a day media turns on me hey they have turn now those Joker I to me the people in media control the narrative and the conversation and what happens in our league way more than they should way more than they should I’m convinced of that that’s that’s a different pod though that’s the dollar pod we fight against that and we like to celebrate awesome players and awesome games no narrative [ __ ] yeah and and that’s why I’m sitting here on this pod because I respect the host host and the host people let’s go to the New England Patriots set the stage for us Jackie there we go 11 and five New England Patriots uh a lot of dudes on this team 11 and five forgot not our best team it was interesting with with some of the the sort of back toback there were two two game losing streaks which is very uncharacteristic in one season for the late loss in December I think yeah there was that loss to the Steelers in December and then previous week was Miracle Miami the miracle in Miami which we we know we shall not speak of Dola Bal gosh Bal and DOA Balden had two long tugs on us oh my God and then earlier than good he’s still fast looks good he got they said his KNE was gone 20 15 years ago that guy’s been overcoming the OD whole whole time and then uh week two and three were lost at Jacksonville and then a loss to matd P that Monday night game in Detroit so those were two double digit back-to-back losses which was very uncharacteristic of of a Patriots team oh yeah yeah that Titans lost too and then in the middle of the Season yeah week 10 there was there that Titans lost by 24 spanked spanked overcame overcame and found our uh our Rhythm um eigh AFC East title or eighth tra AFC championship appearance sorry this was uh coming off a season where lost to the uh Chris Long Le Eagles unfortunately some notable rookies on this team Isaiah win Sony Michelle who is hooed on the yeah big Force lost cooks and DOA in the off season which which was a bummer um Jules started the season suspended bummer on vacation on vacation slate resigned prior this season which we love two-year deal almost left where Pittsburgh really to Pittsburgh huh yeah they were you know they’re trying to Hardball me negotiations oh I almost had to get out I almost had to pull the emergency shoot get out of there Steel City s but I digress I don’t mean to cut you off there Jack yeah I no man I love that I was always curious if did you get the bill quarter I got the call in the airport oh yeah needless say I son back look yeah baby look we don’t need agents here like like slate you’re just going to tell him he’s going to tell Nick why don’t we just get this thing done it’s exactly how it goes exactly exactly how it goes coach I just want my agent to handle it look coach I don’t understand the numbers I don’t I just don’t understand knowing full well I know all the numbers coach I don’t know the numbers I don’t know I don’t know who’s getting paid what hey thankfully slate came back lost do lost solder lost Butler lost Deion Lewis all the free agency lost a lot of guys lost a lot of guys but we had CP we had slate we had Devin H CP was big was T huge this year high tower was huge this year Kyle vanoi was a beast this year Patrick Chun had both the mordis thisas needed them needed them needed them needed both of them and then this was uh Jason with the play of the game no doubt this was year we almost lost kind of did for like a day uh McDaniels to Indie oh remember that famous story you heard ERS in the bathroom or whatever ERS was in the bathroom for about an hour wasn’t that the story I forgot about that yeah he came back no that was next year or that was last year yeah so prior to this season I was at that Super Bowl I was trying I was trying to sit in that box with guy that’s your guyy no pun intended that is your guy though isn’t it yeah I’m guy’s like oh I got an extra ticket I’m sitting in the Colts box I’m like all right I get in there I’m you know eating some french onion dip enjoying the pregame festivities get a tap on my shoulder sir you can’t sit in this box ERS booted you ERS booted me got a lot of nerve wow I actually respected it cuz you probably would have done the same thing if you were him nah you to let Cooper Cup come sit in your box yeah I like CP I interviewed him for Fox this year baby let’s go fa enough C we used to train together cop’s a good dude he is a good dude we used to train together oh man and before we get into this game got to give a little shine to the rest of the coaching staff this was a an all-time star sted Pats coaching staff Joe judge scar Ivan FS chatty O’Shea who we talked about earlier Nick Kayley B Flo zegler and uh Demarcus Covington who’s now the DC that’s right had a lot of a lot of dudes a lot of good Brain Trust guys in there by the way one guy you cannot leave off of that coaching staff oh yeah Brendan Daly who by the way has won six Super Bowls now I know we got a w three with us and he’s won three with Kansas City insane BD Joker might end up with 10 of those bad boys I remember he came from Kansas City right there was something like Kansas City to Minnesota to here it was boys with Chad yes cuz they were always close yes and then went to can went back to Kansas City all he does is win yeah man he was he’s had quite the coaching career Vikings Rams Vikings Patriots and now Kansas City Vikings Rams Vikings also Ryan Allen Joe Cardona and Steven kakowski on this team as well Ryan Allen Ryan Allen game of his life shout out Ryan Allen puted his tail off then we drafted another punter Jules often like tells a story about winning his fun coming off the the Eagles do you have your perspective on that whole like winning is fun put on the white board yeah I mean look I’m in agreement with Julian on this like clearly winning is fun for a long time and and it continues to be the case people were taking shots at what we had going on over here like you know they don’t do this they don’t do that that’s not fun this is not fun like first of all fun is not the top priority like we’re grown men like if I want to have fun I’ll take my my kids to Disneyland but what is fun is winning football what is not fun is going for 13 so I can tell you winning football games there’s nothing like it and and to be able to to do that with people that you care about to be able to build relationships to be able to you know do all those things uh and to put winning on top is like the Cherry I mean there’s nothing better than winning in this league but you remember when I had to go away for my vacation right when I left because of all the talks I put on the Whiteboard winning is fun winning is fun which stayed up there for a long All That season All That season and may have even carried over afterwards but stayed out there no trer words have ever been spoken if you win and become MVP you also get to go to Disneyland correct and you get to host podcast and you get to live in just sick cribs so like not too shabby you know you should see slat’s new newly built crib over and where where is it it’s okay it’s not like this yeah right get out of here SL Jack let’s get the game lead up all right the lead up to this game we’re talking Title Games here these were two memorable ones the NFC title the Rams went down to nins and beat him on that controversial no pass interference call remember that was brutal just lit up brutal the only thing worse in that call was then the challenging Pi the year after oh that was terrible that was a mess I mean I think it was like a defensive receiver hit too it it was wild it was helmet to helmet defensive NPI and they didn’t throw either one of them which is crazy bad insane and then we can’t forget you somebody’s got to fire one of them refs now they got to start docking these Jokers when they miss calls like that and I can say that because I’m no longer an employee of the NFL the referee we gotta go come on fellas we we got to do better than what we’re doing right you know there’s there’s there are a group of referees that you that you like yeah but there are a group of guys you know who I’m talking about love that love that little authority love that Authority you SC noac they they kind of try to Scott Novak looking like a principal out there you can’t act like a principal you got to have you got to have a relationship with the guys it’s a fire Environ you got to have a relationship with the guys you got to have a relationship with and a lot of you guys they like to Sun us like you know like we’re little kids and stuff son I don’t like I’m making $12 million this year get the [ __ ] out of here I never made no $12 million but I do know this if I’m 38 years old out there I don’t need you soning me I don’t need like I’m a grown man okay and then I also want to specifically call out the crew that refereed our game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 200 in what year was that 21 for calling me for running out of bounds when I forced the F and we lost the game to 10 bucks whoever was on that crew that was an atrocious call one of the worst calls I’ve seen in my career you you played a large role in cing us that football game and shame on you for that and this is a man of integrity that doesn’t do that so I don’t know how we get on that but the referee I got a big time issue with the referee you know I’ve heard like an internet like idea to have ref press conferences after the game hold them accountable yeah hold accountability that’s what we need more as as a society we need more accountability that was a bill vinovich crew LED uh crew that day in Foxboro was it it was come on Bill get your brother the side judges I like Gino though the Kil Harry against the Chiefs oh God was that this year no uh year this was the year you lost to the titans this is the next year yeah that was bad that was bad which one wasal then they said he stepped out of bounds oh and he didn’t and before that there was like we lost fumble return for a touchdown that was like his big play I’ve always wanted to blast R it feels good feels good to have the platform to do so let it spray I love it oh man back back to the lead up of this one can’t forget what the Patriots did in their AFC title game going into Arrowhead winning that thing 3731 in overtime favorite win no doubt favorite win of my career perfect scor UNS superboring unreal now my man had a very controversial play in that game on a punt it he didn’t touch it but he attempted to f a punt off the Hop and because my man can’t strap his gloves off the strap of his glove almost touched them allall I don’t know if you guys remember that I remember but we watched that play several times this year you know they had the bearish TV running and I remember going to him and I go did you touch it did you touch the ball no I didn’t have touch it I didn’t have I didn’t try to touch it and then I look up at the thing yes you tried to touch it you tried to feel the ball scoop that puppy make a play played on the first bounds doesn’t matter we won the game we threw a pick the very next play we did is that a ball doesn’t line situation didn’t touch it it might be I don’t know we won the game doesn’t matter you MVP at the last game of the season that’s all that matters and uh also leading up to this game we mentioned earlier no Cooper Cup this was also expected everybody was saying shootout shootout great offenses great offense two good defenses but awesome offenses like over under was set at 56 points didn’t even come close and there was also the age disparity conversation you got Bill 66 at the time of this game uh McVey 33 that’s wild Brady 41 G 24 so everyone was making the uh the Young Bucks versus The Old Guard type type uh argument here keep it going Jackie should we get into the game a little bit here get into the game all right before we get into like what was was there any Scouting Report things to take a stop Aon Donald stop Aon Don at all call get a body on 99 stop Aaron Donald beat man coverage on Third and short that’s why we dialed up the the beaver which was like a longer pass play on a third and short cuz we knew Wade Phillips we knew what he was going to do he’s a very man coverage type uh play caller and then they started trying to give a Zone and then that’s where they were matching me up on a linebacker on the Juke routes and so that’s when it got eaten up and then they would go to the man we just couldn’t finish we were moving the ball up and down the field just every time we got in the red area you know something went wrong we couldn’t finish play we couldn’t finish drives but we were moving the ball we were moving the ball like we were able to run the ball how would we run for 94 yards Sony had 94 yards and 18 carriers Rex had some big old runs he have some big old runs you know what I mean so like we were running the football we just you know that’s where these games come down to it’s situational football you know it’s it’s red area it’s four-point plays which is third down in the red area guys that you know if you don’t score touchdowns in the red area that’s usually what separates the win now we we just so happen to have a killer defensive game plan and our guys went out there and and executed to a te and and having the the veteran presence of of the mordis and and Jason mccordi coming over having his first Super Bowl you know having Gilmore go out and play to the big contract that we got him gave him and that’s why we fought the first day of practice because I was pissed off that I used to rout him up as a bill and then we gave him 14 he played the way he should have played with the interception and and the force fumble like it it was it was crazy with one less dread in his hair in his head one less dread one less dread that’s my dog bro I remember a great guy I remember on the way back cuz Bill kicked us out it was a first day of pads it was it was the first it was the first day of pads early in practice early practice early practice kicks just get the [ __ ] hit the showers at home man you too Gilmore by the time we’re out we’re sitting in the shower in the locker room you know I’m like yeah my bad bro you know he’s like hi you know Gilly don’t really talk yeah he’s like yeah man it’s all right you know what like it was oh man what do you do you guys remember anything in particular about the lead up to this one Super Bowl prep wise game plan wise that we didn’t touch yet we just were constantly talking about getting Aaron Donald protected oh my gosh the whole team knew that the we were just talking about entire team knew we had to block if we can’t get Aaron Don if we don’t get Aaron Donald we’ll lose the game and that was the truth and that’s still the truth of play those guys yeah you got to block 99 blocking 99 was huge red area I remember us talking about red area we got a score points which we didn’t do very well on um you know and those are the two things that come to my mind anything on special and I know for us like playing against bones you know you always had to be fake sound uh the Rams ran a lot of fakes with Johnny Hecker and he’s a quarterback yeah I mean he can he can throw the ball now this kid can throw the ball so we just were talking about fake adjustments all week being fake sound it got to the point I mean we changed our what we were going to do our checks maybe two or three times it got to the point where I remember looking over at Nate Ebner and I was just like hey man when we get out there just make sure we got a hat on a hat like we’re probably going to screw the call up because we’ve gone through it so many times just make sure everybody’s accounted for when we get out there and uh and you know let’s try to make a play little did we know that it was going to be a 15 punt Extravaganza but but uh yeah that fake sound was preached all week in our room what do you think of McVey at this time you cuz he had the whole boy genus I had a lot of respect for him I mean he was our age he was our age was just wild I mean I I’m older than the guy think he was we played against the same age that guy just the fact that he was able to get Jared G turned around right like we played Jared G in 16 they came to us and you just didn’t see it yeah and then this year and the year before that you’re like man this is a different player so to me that was very impressive because I don’t think we have enough coaches in the league that can develop young quarterbacks and then the way he had this offense rolling I mean you know you thought we were going to be in for a long day and then to start the game this was down in Atlanta um can’t start a game without a coin toss slate two and three in coin tosses in Super Bowls but they lost every game that slate won the coin toss which is a weird stat oh heads baby yikes heads all day okay so so you lost opening Co I need the so I lost this coin TOS yes okay but I will note you’re one for one in overtime that’s when it matters NFC Championship game that’s right right week before two weeks before that’s what it matters baby heads baby give it to us call it heads always right never always TS what was Dad feeling at this this game this I mean he was given the most political answer all week you know either way it goes I’m in a win-win situation and I’m like how can you say that and he goes you know I got to you know I got to kind of they flew down there on the Rams plane oh they flew down there on the Rams plane they flew you know he’s working for the Rams all year doing Media stuff so I think he was trying to tow the line like he didn’t want to rock the boat with the Rams which I respect I mean look the Rams provided for my education growing up so I got love for the Rams but you know come on pop you got you got to draw a hard Line in the Sand it’s family you get family now he was done on the field he had the hats he was celebrating all right and then he had to fly back on the plane I don’t want to compromise him right now but he had to fly back on the plane and so he had to act real sad the next day getting up getting it back on the plane but come on do you think had the Rams won he would have showed up to the Rams party oh he’d have been in there been dancing around he’d have been dapping up here and H the whole game oh that was weird that was really weird for our family I’m not going to lie like my dad at this point had a you know 40-year relationship with the ram so it it was a strange situation for sure he doesn’t strike me as a split jersey guy either like the uh the moms that were the half oh no he’s not doing that he’s not doing that he ain’t doing that oh man all right we we talked a little bit about moving that ball in the first half and pretty much throughout the whole game but we start this thing off after the coin toss a Brady interception what is it with Tom in those early super bow interceptions I don’t know but that’s how this one started I’m not critiquing Tom all I’m not critiquing either Tom’s the best player in the history the game the D bailed him out with a stop on a three and out many of those this game uh followed it up with a nice 11 playay Drive really moving the ball Jules you were getting open but ended up with a a steo Miss field goal remain nothing nothing at the end of the first moving into the second we finally got on the board with a steo 42 Y and then the story of this game so many punts we’re talking here 14 total punts eight alone in the first half five of those were off three and outs so defenses were both playing hard and it was a field position game how many inside the the we were loving that I’m not going to lie to y’all we loved to be able to go out there and do our job and you know we really got in a in a Groove I think early in that game Ryan was hitting the ball with confidence I think we got him inside the 10 a number of times which ended up being you know a big part of this game was that hidden yardage and keep their off their offense on a long field but you know you got to shout out Ryan Allen for the game that he had I mean this is one of the best punting performances I’ve ever seen and then for us you know a lot of the situations that we were in we were on Singles which we love as Gunners and we’re just able to run and make plays so it was awesome is that a political was that is that you see you see when slate gets into to coach mode you see his voice octave gets like three three deeper yeah I just a you know right later you know yo he fellas fellas he used to always get on me about my voice changing octaves but but you know you got you got to use the appropriate octave at the appropriate time I think this an appropriate time to go over the State of the Union what’s the state of the union we you want to state of you want to talk State of the Union right now we could yeah we got all day you know we used to have these state of the union talks or where Julian and I with go in private and and openly discuss what we really felt like was going on with the team the coaching staff certain guys on the team you know the State of the Union addresses started when we were living together and probably the most the single most important State of the Union that we ever had was uh after we got throttled on Monday Night Football by the Chiefs in 2014 and ships the ship seing we came back to the house and sky was falling I mean it was chicken little situation uh the TV folks were saying that Tom was washed that we were done Trent dfur who I just saw a couple weeks ago and reminded me of this he was on he was on air and he was like the Dynasty is over it’s over just crushing us and you know we’re not young but we were kind of young and we’re like man are we are we through we’re hey we were just sitting there start the Turk is coming we’re out of here we’re out here going to overhaul the whole roster is Bill is Bill gonna cut us but uh needless to say we’re on the Cincinnati yeah but but that’s the State of the Union but it would be so funny like if something went down in in the building so slate would be in we’d be in the same meeting some of the times and then slate would be going to special teams and and we’d be passing each other in the hallway like on on the way to the cafeteria like treatment or something I’d be like yo State of the Union after state of the union he like State of the Union I’m like state of the union state of the [ __ ] Union and we would wait until we left the premises of the ground we as we got older as yeah as we got older as we got older we we we we we we we stayed on the ground right but when we were young you can’t have a State of Union on the ground absolutely place might be bug you can’t you got to take that offsite you got to stay in the union offsite we go into the car oh my God was State of the Union always one-onone it was always one-on one one always one-onone you can’t you can’t bring too many parties in the state the information leaks you know loose you know loose lips sink ships sink ships and we want our ship sinking after every state of the union we felt like the ship was sinking the ship was the Outlook was always poor the worst like I don’t know this is not looking good we are done our biggest St Union after that we won three Super Bowls just put into perspective exactly exactly do you guys remember your last state of the union might have been a state of the union about the knee knee stadi L I don’t know if I could do it yeah I mean that was tough that was tough for me cuz at that point in time you know I had two work wives in my career Julian and mccordi now who’s the main who was the main stay it was Julian was a primary work you tell mordi he the side piece okay he’s a side piece I mean look how about Deon wearing all three of his rings on his on his show is he wearing all three of his Rings he’s wearing rings on the show bro oh dmac man dmac dmac well I get I mean we got them I guess we’re supposed to wear them it’s for banquets yeah mine are locked up go to ban you give it to like a pop warner team to look at yeah on national TV did he have them on he had them on multiple times d man we got talk about but you know dmac was also wearing a shirt with his own head on there so you know the modesty’s gone from my JM though was that JM that that no JM JM classy guy so what are you saying dmac’s not a classy guy I don’t know dmac DM I didn’t say that d i I mean ‘s talking all class in my book man all class no he’s classy but he’s just an [ __ ] JM is just a loving Le I digress okay my work wife is going out with knee and I’m I’m in a p I’m trying to hold the front I’m trying to act hey man you know hey man just get keep doing a rehab keep getting it treated you got to just keep keep fighting then I’d go talk to the trainers and they’d be like his knee’s done and I’m and I’m panicking what do you mean it’s done he’s like I don’t think it’s getting any better but that was a tough St that was tough but you went out on your Shield Man you had your highest yard yardage game of your career that last year remember I was trying to come back and I remember my last practice cuz after that we weren’t even playoff ready and I was like I’m not pushing this thing my last practice I just I just wanted to get Gilmore one more time 101s I went out just for 101s I got little miles on a double move then I got Gilmore and I I literally after I got Gilmore I just chucked the Deuces and went to the pool it was the last time I was ever seen as a New England Patriot oh man you went to the wheels fell off that’s what we always said go to the wheels fall off you got to go to the wheels fall off now are you surprised at the pace of this this terrible game by this time I mean we went full tangent I forgot we’re talking about the game you know I was loving it I was loving the way the game was EV and flowing because we were having a lot of opportunities to impact the game but I was surprised because their offense was so potent obviously our offense was was really motoring at this time I was surprised at how slow the game was developing and how well the defenses were playing you know there I watched this game and there were just crazy plays by so many guys on the defense high tower literally brought the Thunder Mr February you know like I I just remember there was like three plays in a row where they were trying to bring that tight end in to get the the backer yeah and he literally put them on their butt like three times vanoi chip and then Chase of God that that was a great play by him that was a great play by Kyle like that was a great play there was and then you know Gilmore with the pick when we needed it Jason mccordi with you know the the the pat out at the the backside post with the adjustment that they put in you know because they already got beat by that and they let it go remember like there was just so much the defense played their nuts off like they really did man this is exactly how Bill wanted it he he loved it loved it it was cuz we were in control of the game even though we weren’t right and and I mean to the F honestly for me I me we played in five Super Bowls yeah to me this was the most comfortable I ever felt yeah during the Super Bowl I mean every other game was a struggle you know it was like man I don’t know we it always felt like we were in control of the game felt like we were in control even though the score was close and you know was a tight ball game it felt like this is transpiring just the way we want it so I mean the first half alone defense was incredible held the Rams of 57 yards only two first downs record lows for Shawn McVey first time he’d ever been shut out in a half of football which is or first half of football which is crazy Jules seven catches in the first half that’s a Super Bowl record six of those seven were for first downs pretty sick Jim Nance was loving it um go into the my man was running some round he talk about beating man covers you running some routs that just that the average Joe that’s why that knee’s gone cuz that knee was working that night that thing was my knees were hurting just watching I look at the highlights I see my dog cut I’m like oh my my miniscus my ACL hurt just watching he was running some routes that night that was he running some routes on a’t no doubt went into the half up three nothing what was what was up in the halftime any adjustments anything big remember stand standard no it was just a standard like fellas we you know we’re not playing our best we just tighten up little things in the red area just keep playing each play trying to win one play at a time you can’t win it in you know you can’t win the game in one play like that’s the that was the Mantra like let’s just do our job every play and then line up and do it again that’s right communication execution and it sounds simple but it’s hard to carry out and you know that’s the one thing we did better than everybody for the time we were there we were able to execute come out in the third quarter let him tie it up on a Greg the leg field goal and another thing there was was Big A lot of people don’t talk about enough Jung gets hurt goes out we lose him that’s yeah that was Big Air cast on the arm that’s that’s like some Rodney Harrison you know Chung brought such a level of like toughness in competes to our team and just intangibles that you don’t really celebrate or talk about that was a big loss when he went out of the game like I felt emotionally I felt yeah that was a blow that we had to kind of overcome you know you couldn’t have explained it any better with what he brought to the team with his toughness with how he practiced for the first three years of my career me and Chong almost fought every day every day because you know there’s like an agreement when you’re going into Block Force and he was always the force safety you know and he never agreed to the agreement and I never AG to the agreement so we were literally banging heads for 3 years every day and like it was just and but it made us better yeah it did you know and that’s what Chung was he was he worked his tail off he was always Dependable when the team needed it and it’s crazy when you can literally say that about pretty much everyone that was on the field right you know that’s why the teams were special and then moving into the fourth quarter this is the first time in Super Bowl history where we don’t have a touchdown in the game yet wow three to three Patriots get the ball with 939 left in the fourth we got the drive that pretty much wins this game we’re starting on our own 31 starting out with a great pass to grank then jwes and Rex Burkhead gets involved and then the play that one of the defining plays of this game in my mind was that hos Z Juke right SE NE grank that drive ran three plays in a row or four four times in a row they hit me on the Juke they hit what Rex the the on the outside yep and then the one time when they hit Rex we saw that they gave us single single safety and when you get single safety on that play that’s why we you know you see a highlight of grank hitting the seam running you know and and that’s when it happened you know it was crazy we could run that was like we used to call that play Jordan you know that was Jordan because it was the it was our safety blanket we could run it against anything everyone knew how to run it everyone ran their specific route so many times where you knew how to get open on every coverage that’s right you know what I mean no I love that was one of my favorite grank moments of all time personally yeah you know shout out grank because you know this year was tough for him especially towards the end he was banged up physically he was just beat up and what he really embraced was like all right I’m going to just become a dominant blocker and then you know when we needed plays in the past game he just always found a way to rise to the occasion and to me that’s what that’s what makes him him the best because when it wasn’t perfect for him or when he was hurting he found ways to make plays and like in this game my man was hurting he was hurting but when we needed him he found a way Joker found a way to make a play always did and you know people don’t realize like he was probably half of himself that year like with with just the physical and mental Beatdown that he was having cuz you got to think about it I mean grank was the most dominant human being for most of his life and then you know confidence-wise was probably a little shot when you know he’s banged up and he’s going over rehabs every year every year and he was getting sick of it you know gr’s a big puppy man you know and for him to go out and show out like he did and it started you know probably like week 18 you know he started you just putting them together and and anytime we needed to play grank made it I mean third down and 10 in Kansas City we hit him on the slant you know just big time plays when the team needed it grank always showed up no matter what that’s right you know even when he wasn’t himself and that’s that’s how you know if you you you’re playing with great players because it’s kind of like NASCAR you know you always hear the drivers talking about like yo how’s the car running the car is running great today you know there’s sometimes the car ain’t running good and you still got to win the race right you know and that’s what guys like grank guys like Tom Tom had so many injuries that no one knew about like broken broken feet and [ __ ] you know like that people don’t even he tried to play with the ACO we all watch the dock like to be able to adjust your game and still be able to perform at a high level is the ultimate sign of being a professional yeah no Danny amola used to do it all the time break his ankle come out tap in his own ankle couldn’t agree with you tough dudes yeah and then uh before we wrap this thing up we’re getting down to crunch time here this was another defining play from this game from this second half uh slat’s work brother-in-law Jason mccordi makes the game saving the game saving play in my mind one of them on Brandon Cooks in the back of the end zone oh yeah huge huge play I mean the thing about this play that’s so impressive is Jason has a responsibility they’re in zone coverage and this is not his responsibility it is not his responsibility to be in the Deep third and to be covering this route but he has the experience and the the you know preparation and the football IQ to say oh this guy’s back here he’s open it’s not my guy but I better go get on him and and if he doesn’t make this play we may not even be sitting here talking about this so this is a huge huge play you know what the best play in my eyes was you got last play of the game right tight Diamond kill yeah oh there’s no now take that knee baby slay best playing football six tight Diamond take a knee best playing football was right tight Diamond kill six tight the six tight where’s Josh McDaniel six tight Diamond take a knee right tight the only reason I know six Tight cuz I’m that’s the only play I’m in he’s in in which we we had the Seahawk Super Bowl and there’s like the scuffle at the the KN for that you’re going all crazy I’m trying get ejected I was trying to get Michael Bennett and ejected threw a Punch full on a Punch full on tackle grank too shout out Michael Bennett one of our former teammates Mar but he no remember Michael came oh he did for yeah wasn’t the story he and Brett belma didn’t like each other he came I don’t know I don’t know that went Michael came out and we used to have shells that you like on non padded days he wore shows on a padded day my man was he used to wear the smallest amount of P that vet he was super vet super vet hold on before we wrap this thing up win the game 13 to3 this was this was a punt game this is one of the greatest punting special team Super Bowls ever can we go through a couple stats here yeah Johnny Hecker 65 y Super Bowl record asri broke Ryan Allen’s punts asri as rolled it rolled about 30 yards I know I didn’t and I remember looking at Johnny and I I looked at him I was like you lucky son of a gun he just looked at me he the Old Scotty O is probably back at home at the ranch yelling at it because I didn’t play it off its first bounce what are you supposed to do he shanked it and it rolled 30 yards shank mcdank shank STI he broke the previous record which was held by Ryan Allen from the 2015 Super Bowl 64 yards record I’m just playing Johnny I’m just kidding all right 14 total punts six of which were down inside the 20 yard line Ryan Allen had punts down on the six the two and the Seven Hecker had punts down on the eight the two and the 12 yard lines it’s kind of wild this was wild wild to make it even Wilder backed up these two guys I mean we’re talking great roommates right here Ryan Allen Johnny Hecker roommates at Oregon State yeah crazy they get that that little rivalry there cuz Ryan had to transfer Johnny beat him out yeah and then I think Ryan won like the guy award twice when he transfer but there was always a little something he’s always they always had a little like hey hey what’s up man like no I’m gonna get this guy yeah right kickers they’re in their own world they dap each like they’re cool but they they’re all competitive they are very competitive wild so yeah this one goes down lowest scoring Super Bowl in history 13 to3 Pats win Brady passes Charles Haley six rings most of any single player craziness and then we got the the Afterparty the aftermath golf was traded gone which brings me back to my other point though or Julian’s Point winning is fun winning was fun really fun if you don’t win you don’t get a 100% Julian Edelman on show okay absolutely not you don’t get to Ellen degenerous shaving my beard have Ellen shave your beard you don’t get going to Disneyland with Tom I mean you don’t get to experience all these things unless you win so therefore winning is fun what’s your favorite parade story I think our first parade against that Seattle Team oh my God now we won’t get up we won’t get into the leadup and the buildup and that but we know what that buildup was anyways you know that Seattle team that was a that that felt good to beat those guys cuz that team they were a little little on the cocky side little on the cocky side I’ll never forget you on top of the the duckboat beard out of control in a t-shirt it’s free in a tea freezy there was somebody had a Richard Sherman sign where he was doing this and it and it said how many rings does Brady have four and you were up there interacting with the crowd and the fans and that sign that was a good time that was that was a good time buer day off yeah full on after those ones it just chilled really oh man Jules step back here how do they tell you you won Super Bowl MVP like what’s that what’s that process like on the field I think Stacy come Stacy tell you yeah let’s see always brother I wouldn’t be here without you Boston we’re bringing another championship home trying to get me emotional open here man yeah this when I when I when I asked him about the MVP together six Champion are I [Music] am baby crazy bro [Music] MVP we’re only do up there together still oh man if you noticed coach bich ain’t with his girl Tommy ain’t with that girl we’re together baby we’re together we’re still here still here still here man you know that that that was uh to be able to have witnessed your entire professional Journey you know highs lows everything that was maybe the the highest moment for me as your brother as your fan like you won the MVP the Super Bowl we grew up watching this thing yeah it was nuts you know we grew up with with a dream and to be able to make it to the biggest stage and have that kind of success is just so proud of you man man I’m proud of you man look at you man who who plays 16 years in the National Football I fooled him pretty good get out of here let’s let’s give you some some quick hitters what’s Tom’s Legacy after this game I mean in my mind he was already the greatest but this just further cemented like you know if football’s about winning and and quarterbacking is about leading your team to win then there’s no argument that this game solidified him as the greatest player of all time well what about the next Super Bowl well the next Super Bowl the emotions were a little bit different I was a little bit angry he should be with us he left us he left us talk sorry did he ever text you and let you know I found out through bottom ticker oh if he didn’t text you you know he didn’t text me B left us he was giving me clues but he was always giving he was always talking that trash left us then he’s over there him and grank hoisting another one up never got hammered with us no staggering off the boat never gotting the Lombardi throwing it getting real Cavalier with it come on Tom I was happy before you dog but he left us he left us left us at the altar and what are you supposed to do you’re happy your ex-wife Mary’s a freaking a Navy SEAL billionaire what Navy SEAL billionaire Oh no you’re not that’s the last person you want your wife to marry Navy SEAL Bill billionaire that’s what he did to us it’s what he did 100% don’t you just want her to be happy what I mean don’t you just want your ex-wife to be happy come on we want you to be happy now do this game embody the Patriot Way to the fullest or what slate this team embody it right this was not our best team no but we found ways to come together to overcome to you know adjust and to ultimately win and we found you know a way to like dig within ourselves and be at our best when it was needed so to me not just this game and the way it transpired but the way this season unfolded really embodied the Patriot Way um you know as much as any season that I think we were part of so now where does this game rank for greatest Matthew Slater game well it’s definitely one of my favorites well I mean statistic wise too do you have any tackles yeah I had I had a tackle had a tackle this is like few down punts so two the one-hander Lander the oneand Lander one hander Lander um one I’ll show my kids 20 years from now just to remind them old dad used to be something but this is up there I mean because I think our unit I mean obviously dad’s team individually it was special beating my dad’s team being able to play well but just our unit collectively special teams you know Nate uh Keon um you know obviously Ryan Steve Joe all those guys we all played well um and and we helped the team win which was huge gez was this bills best Super Bowl coaching performance I mean it’s up there I I think if you look at the book in titles right the first one against the Rams I think that was some great coach what about what about the Seattle where he didn’t call the timeout created a frenzy I mean this Joker can coach football now like and a lot of the [ __ ] did was that’s Jedi mind trick make no mistake about it there are 30 you know let’s call it well maybe not 30 teams because some teams have good coaches there are at least 15 teams in the league that don’t have a coach as good as this guy they can’t even sniff him I know 15 teams in the league I’m just telling you telling you right now Atlanta if you don’t win that Division I know I’m not look I don’t want I don’t want to point fingers at what the I’m just say I’m not saying a team I’m not naming a team by name I don’t want to name a team but the fact that this guy doesn’t have a job I wanted to go down to ATL man go to the camps take in the scene check out Magic City no ain’t no Magic City over here now Ain no Magic City no Magic City now Shazad ain’t no Magic City now but uh yeah man it’s this was definitely one of his alltime I think great coaching performances to shut that offense down to come up with the game plan to to Really neutralize those guys it goes up there for sure now after this game did you start to feel the sky in the dynasty was falling off well if we’re honest which is what we’ve been doing all day 17 was turbulent there was turbulence in 17 turbulence fasten your safety belts cuz that thing was a little rocky Chung ain’t flying in that plane no more oh God I’m sorry PC I know you don’t like flying I learned that the hard way but we were turbulent now now we were 133 Super Bowl but you know it started with you getting hurt in the preseason and then there was just a lot of turbulence 18 somehow we I don’t know how but we rallied up we answered the Bell 19 we’re bringing her on in for a landing you know and then and didn’t if AB was we would won a Super Bowl if AB was on this team AB was special man that Jugger that was one thing we needed because grank wasn’t there we didn’t have anything you know what I mean that D was good but you know what really did Us in was when TB left us at the altar yeah left us TB you left us that’s we were there we were ready ready to serve you ready to go out there and die for you a left us there ain’t no 12 walking through that damn door 8 NO2 walking through that door how many times did I say and I love cam I love cam I enjoyed my time with Cam love cam my fashion definitely went up and he was a great person to be around so this is not a knock on Cam Newton at all because this is a MVP player Elite but 12 levs at the altar it’s called what it is y yeah Tom don’t worry Tom I still got your jersey up in my office right next to my dad’s and you always be my guy but you left us he left us probably would have done the same thing Tom Brady I mean I’ll be honest I thought you were going down there too I thought all you juggers were going to go down there and I was H I would have been steamed I mean all of a sudden grank wants to resurface out of retirement and scor and come out ball out just ball out I’m like come on Rob but I get it you know I all joking aside I get it I get it we get it everything happened the way it was supposed to how about this Rumblings of uh Bill potentially joining the media this year oh that would be something how do you think he’d do kill it you think so yeah he’s so smart you watch him all those NFL things whenever he does that stuff it’s a historical thing he’ll kill it but I straight up told him if if he go if he goes out and doesn’t come on this podcast games with names I took the shitty contracts okay I I I I worked my dick off yeah I was [ __ ] here and there sometimes and pouty here and then but I put on the work he needs to be sitting right in the seat I need coach right here especially if Ernie comes if Ernie comes on the pond he’s got to come he’s got to come got to get coach on I can’t I’m the only one in goddamn media [ __ ] going to bat for him remember all year all year down with the [ __ ] that was our MTO no you went down with the sh I I was I was like one of those violin players on the Titanic you you were the guy violin it I’m playing that tune till I can’t play it anymore I’m going down I’m committed to this ship committed to the captain of the ship and I’m going down with it I was one of the Lifeboat workers that had to you know go down with the Lifeboat but still lived but I was still with the ship well I’m dead I’m fully gone I can’t no that ain’t you you’re the guy you’re Captain bro you were in no no Bill’s a Captain Bill’s a captain he went I’m just part of that band so I kept playing my tune all the way the end oh he went down he glassing all Jackie we we got any leftovers we miss anything Al like quick question here was did this year feel like a different bill or like was was there any sort of writing on the wall I I don’t want to you mean this past season yeah I don’t want to pry too much but no I’m retired now you know this year was tough it was it was challenging and the one thing anything that I saw was that we know how competitive bill is yeah he wants to win not just every game he wants to win every practice every meeting every lifting session and it it was hard for him not to win it was hard for all of us but no one put more time and effort and commitment into that program than bill so it was certainly hard for him to you know experience that it was hard for all of us I mean you know being in that building where we had so much success to experience 4 and 13 it wasn’t it wasn’t fun it was not fun but the one thing I’ll say about Coach is he never changed like if you said in the team meeting week 17 we’re playing the Jets he’s coaching us like it’s AFC Championship game like the consistency the the Readiness the preparation it never changed and and that really gave me a great appreciation for who bill belich is I think he softened up I’m just saying I remember when I was on my way out I’m like what the [ __ ] going on around here this place is getting soft he tried to change that’s the problem he tried to change with the times coach is just want to be on record for saying I don’t you know I stand with you United United to the end doesn’t mean I agree with everything had your back till he didn’t agree with everything I did I’m sure you know but things got a little softer when I when I on my way out I’m just joking coach are were you saying are you implying that it was a Mickey Mouse operation absolutely not okay I’m just saying things that just want to make sure like guys were it wasn’t the same like did Kendrick Bourne ever throw a helmet is what no Kendrick Bourne didn’t throw on helmets soft we didn’t have a helmet thrower that was a problem I tried to toss mine one time just out of character couldn’t and pull it off we needed J but there was no J no J came to rescue that’s the first thing I first practice I come back like everyone’s looking at me like he’s going to throw a helmet yes we needed it and then to wrap this thing up we talked to ke to we talked Wes Walker and we talked Bill bich slate with a great recall of a moment from 2014 January 2014 indeed Wes Welker did hurt a TB on a pick play and Bill was quoted telling Mike Reese one of the worst plays I’ve seen the way it turned out I went and I watched it back I didn’t have a clear chance to yesterday it was a deliberate play by the receiver to take out a keep no attempt can I just say the bill West rivalry it’s out there I mean come fellas can we just bridge the gap here like you guys did a lot of great things together a lot of great things but I’m in agreement with Bill he had he was out for blood oh he was out for blood it was personal it’s personal and he he took a key out cost us the game you know Wes so Wes I hope you can sit there and feel good and is is Wes now coaching his players to do that is he coaching Tyreek to do that illegal picks on guys I hope not Wes I hope player safety Wes player safety player safety team bck um let’s name the game Let’s name the game be La 13 and three The Passion of the punt or the edel nut game I think it’s the passion of the punt I mean I love that name I love all those names but because we’re Boston Sports guys and because we just don’t like La even though I’m from out here you got to go beat LA right did you get one of the t-shirts that we were selling remember the Bella t-shirts oh I got all the merch just making sure I got all the merch oh man Big Time Miss by me on this one this was the same year the Red Sox beat the Dodgers same year so it was a big p and you beat the Chargers too we beat the Chargers and then everybody thought the Chargers were going to stomp us out stomp was that score beat the breaks off of them I felt bad because I liked an Anthony Lynn I’m a fan of you coach remember remember that I’m a fan of you I like liked up up that was 4128 I liked I don’t know why I just liked Anthony Lynn I did too I liked Anthony Lynn I like the line of guys on that team P Riv obviously Keenan Allen Adrien Phillips who just you don’t have one you know B La there it is B La it will forever be a Boston Mantra there it is baby BL visit J1 11.com to purchase your merchandise today which is now just games with Nam which is another thing you can’t do if you don’t win is sell merchandise games of names. let’s score the game presented by The Win Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor is this the greatest game of all time let’s score it Stakes 1 to 10 what are decimals okay slate 1 to 10 what are the stakes I mean Stakes are always high in a Super Bowl legacy’s on the line last Super Bowl the life of the dynasty still alive three Super Bowls in a row Bob sohi would say it’s still a dynasty so I’m going to say I’m goingon to say 7 point8 Integrity score what’ I tell you guys he’s going to have a very Integrity type score SC star power star power I mean you look at it you’ve got some all-time greats in this game you’ve got the greatest player in the history of the game you’ve got arguably the greatest defensive player in the history of the game you’ve got the greatest tight end in the history of the game you’ve got the greatest slot receiver in the history of the game West weler played oh no wow West was good wow West was good you’ve got we’ve talked about a key we’ve talked about guy star power is pretty high so out of 10 also Maroon Five played the halftime show glad KN pregame national anthem who glattus Knight glad Knight J still got it had it well Glatt Knight’s got to bring the score up by herself so we’re going to go start power 8.1 8.1 very solid game play game play well you’re asking the wrong guy special teams game I mean game playay special teams wise 10.0 but I think overall game play know and this is from a a football guy who enjoys defense enjoys grittiness I’m gonna give that I’m gonna give that game play an 8.9 8.9 give it an 8.9 defensive guy son of an offensive Guy special team alltime great but going with the going with the defense going with the defense true football guy true football guy name of the game beat La beat La I mean look we’re Boston people right my home is in Boston now so we’re going to have to go we’re going to have to go 90 90 on that 90 90 on the on the name what’s our total if grank was here he’d just be able to put it right out he did he is crazy with mat he’s really good he crazy than that we did it 8.45 8.45 where does it land in the games that we have done oh man this one puts us right between the 2011 AFC divisional round game aka the can’t wait game oh Jets versus Patriots G let’s forget about that oh B Scott can’t wait and right behind the Seattle vers New England Super Bowl the Malcolm Butler game super blood wolf Moon we did that one with Rob wle yeah you remember that one one of our favorite yeah Rob rle Rob rle is funny man he’s funny Rod Ribble was he a a cop he was a marine he was a marine that’s what it was he played a cop in the hangover though he did he did that he was a Marine is he is he hilarious in person so H dude we’ve had some really we had some funny people who we just had uh Lis black on here we had some people know Gary Gman my personal favorite Gary Gman was was funny Burt ker we had B was really we’ve had some Comics you know you know because we started the show with Sam we’ve been kind of introduced into this whole comic world and all the comics you know and I’ve kind of developed relationships with these guys and they’re so fun funny oh my God you think you’re like giggly no these guys are Pros they’re over here just killing it just wit I like the rle big fan of the regle he 10 minutes early was he prompt prompt Marine that’s that Marine he gave a marine coin thing he we have his Mar coin on the on the Slate anything Dad we covered a lot what about you know maybe give a plug to the JC guy beautiful thing though that a Jewish man and a Christian man can sit down and find Common Ground I just want to say that that’s one of the beautiful things about football we find common ground and as a society it would it would serve us all well to be able to find common ground but we have one common goal in a locker room in society not everyone’s in the common goal unfortunate to have fun that’s unfortunate it’s not having fun it’s winning it’s winning it’s winning at all cost thanks bro I appreciate you coming on thanks for having me man that was a great show slate is you hear the stories about what a great guy slate is and then he lives up to it and then some in person oh you feel the greatness I love slate just when he enters a room of his just pure Aura I can see why any pure any locker room just instantly gets B any room you know and it’s it’s so crazy because we we literally came in he was a year in a year in and I came in you know we were the slap dicks just sitting there like he was saying like are we going to make the team to you know he’s he’s probably he’s probably going to go in the Hall of Fame for being a special teamer and I mean crazy to think he and his dad will be the first fatherson duo in there Captain the captain but to play 16 years do you I wanted to ask him but we didn’t get a chance like do you think his career it was a unique career an amazing career would have been possible anywhere outside of New England no I don’t know we’d have probably just because of who he is I think so you’re right but it’s just like his his Spirit and the guy that he is and the toughness that he brings and paired with Bill’s coaching and love for special teams like I I love it no I mean we we we didn’t even get into Scotty O’Brien which I wish we did a little more you know for the first four years of my career me and slate at like 5:30 in the morning had to go in and meet with Scotty and he would basically give us the presentation of what he was going to present to the the team the coaching points the everything we’re going to install that we’re going to install this and then we had to sit in me and slate we had to sit in every special teams unit field goal field goal everything just you know and and hear it again you know you guys heard it first just the three just you scoto and half the time it’ be scoto telling us what’s going on the other half time would be him talking about his boat and his big ass Ranch and Wisconsin [ __ ] I got 10 million bucks in the bank right now we’re like two guys trying to make a team don’t even have $110,000 our name scoto I love he’s flexing he’s flexing oh my God that’s incredible and to see and to hear the stories the Domino’s Pizza boxes as the dining room or the the coffee table next time he’ll be on live show maybe live show and then Beck what’s great about slate is like so much in sports media discourse there’s a lot of talk about like oh the dynasty was just all Brady Bill sucks it’s all bill this and like to win at such a high level for so long it’s a building filled with guys like Matthew Slater great right and you need to have all those teams I’m sure the Chiefs have their own version if you plugged into you’d find those guys so that’s how you win championships is building full of guys like that I don’t know if there’s another one like yeah I was just I was saying that he is one think there’s another person that only plays special teams and Men on every phase look up to him the way people look up to slate the world would be a lot better place if there are more slates in the world he would you know Chris Long over here oh you know I’d love them with my wife and kid well Slate’s actually in my trust if I go down and there’s a few other things that have to happen slate is holding court on everything in the papers signed them had to have the auditor the the the guy with the what is it the um the notary notary not slay you at the house notaries what’s it for Dad just don’t worry dude you’re G to run my life if I die so if you ever go down that’s the first place you look what slate yeah suspect number one well no there’s like there’s like saying there’s a couple there’s a there’s a few different scen like let’s not talk about this talk about it’s a democracy all right Let’s do let’s go to the hotline here I love hit the Hine let’s do it hit the hotline being I know that hline and again that number 424 291 2290 424 291 2290 like said yeah I’m a 16-year-old from Massachusetts just wondering what advice you give to a 16-year-old kid in high school that only different an in on and off the field 16-year-old Vice advice both on and off the on and off the field ignore noise you know ignore noise there’s always going to be someone that says you can’t do something like if you read any book or you hear any story about anyone that got anywhere that they had to deal with it even the greatest look at Tom Brady always be ready to learn and be hungry to learn and and give Max effort always you know even if you’re the stud on the team don’t be the guy that runs the Sprints and doesn’t take it serious because you know you could throw the best on the team or or you know you you want to be that guy like a Matthew Slater that you know is the badass on the team wins in the offseason always you know that’s the kind of guy you want to be and and you’ll go you’ll go further and it’ll take it’ll help you in life that’s what I would say that’s that’s good lifelong advice best for retirement now compound interest I was going to say start a Tik Tok account be become a Tik tocker hey Drews this Boston Taxi you remember you were going home on your skateboard on your motorized skateboard and you took that wide Turn Around the Corner that blind corner and you met my cab almost ran your ass over you know what I mean we daed out and all that [ __ ] it was that same season you got popped for you know you know but yeah man good to you know check in on you see how you doing um good luck on your future and all that man send me back Boston Taxi I do remember that I do remember I was hitting this turn on my little motorized thing and he was coming I think it was Dartmouth or something was a back alley of Back Bay or something and he goes and I sto and he stopped and I went and I hit his cab oh my God we looked at each other he he looked at me me I looked at him and I just said oh thank God we didn’t get that and he like we dapped up and went on my way yo my gosh he remembers after all these years I love that checking in yeah man it was crazy I’m I’m good bro hope you’re doing well you used to fly on that thing Fly Don’t Tell don’t tell coach that what I’m wondering what your favorite team was to play favorite team to play probably be how it it honestly comes down to three it would either be the Jets Baltimore or Kansas City Jets because you know anytime it was Boston New York it was always big there was that rivalry we usually won we usually won I usually had a lot of good stats but no like I loved going to New York and playing because you you know you feel like you’re driving in from New Jersey and you see the skyline in the city it was just always a crazy Billy Joel Billy Joel’s and the headphones you know just it was always fun Kansas City because I remember playing them before they had Patrick it was always you know a tough game they always had like some really good football players and those end end end years against you know Mahomes and Kelce it just they were the Young Gun team and we were like the old vets so like you always like stacking up against you know the best teams and then Baltimore it was always a physical game we played him so much in my career early in my career middle in my career in the playoffs in the regular season he always had a lot of respect for their players uh you know they came into our house and whooped our ass you know a couple times you felt Baltimore when you went to Baltimore you got Ray Lewis doing the war dance I did I played against him when he was doing War dance you know on the team and then every time we played and he didn’t play he was doing War dance coming out to smoke I mean it it that whole thing it just fun I liked playing in the competitive games and and then the Jets that’s you know that that’s one of our arrivals so those those were the the fun games I remember but November 20th 2022 Gillette Stadium Foxboro Massachusetts Jets visiting the Patriots all tied three to three after 59 and a half minutes looking like overtime Braden man squares up to kick the 17th pun of the game but he left the ball over the middle of the field Marcus Jones catches it starts the run back this is the Marcus Jones game Julian this is Joe from Lin Mass I was at this game even though it’s stunk it can be s a game can be saved by a single play the stadium was absolutely hyped after this me and my brother were there love the podcast love everything you’re doing keep it up bro I like it that was a great intro great intro love the guy but absolute [ __ ] game if we ever do this game it’s over I mean he even said it stunk it’s stunk and he was there he was there Linn Mass stand up yeah baby stand up that was a great that was a great Callin that was awesome great play by Marcus Jones now he that was kind of maybe a joke he joking there a good sense of humor maybe it was I mean he pulled it off he played it straight Rocky down boy boy heal sorry it’s fitting that we talk about a terrible game with a great special teams play in this episode yeah Jules I got to know bro I’m a DI hard Raider fan I just want you to admit on air for me and all Raider Nation please admit that that was a fumble love the content bro you talking Brady he’s got to be talk about theck Ru the um Mac Jones no Kobe Meyers it has to be that right oh my God the debacle in the desert the annex section of Puerto Rico he’s talking he’s talking about Charles Woodson yeah of course that was a fumble tuck roll tuck roll tuck roll it’s the it’s in the book The Ring’s already out boys regardless of you it was a fumble what doesn’t get talked enough with that game is the two field goals that VIN and Terry hit oh oh yeah those were insane any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass even if the player loses possession of the ball as he’s attempting to tug it back towards his body it was in the rule book at the time the book what else do you want it’s a bad book bad yeah it’s been changed since then only play the rules as they play amen that might have been John guden putting on a voice calling in still salty over that one he’s probably salty over a lot of things well what an episode and thanks again to slate that’s been another great episode of games with names 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Gronk, Dola, Tedy, now SLATE?! What other members of the Patriots dynasty should we have on?⬇
Your candid and open discussion of your time playing together brings me there and I can vicariously live through you the exhilaration, fun and love of it all. Keep going Jules… future HOFer 👊
FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING
the proud gloating narcissist, the new kind of pride
showing off all your goods, making people livid by showing off all your greatness like a real true pure narcissist who loves being a narcissist
Side piece!!!! Priceless …
THEY TOOK THE SILVERWARE !!
Boys the was a fuckin legendary chat with Slats. First, you should create a segment where you and Slats breakdown moments from games and bring in the teammates that made it all happen…Mankins, Light, Wilfork, Matty Cassel and how crazy that season was 11-5 and miss playoffs. Second…keep doing exactly what you are doing. More Pats porn please. ~ James Brown in Vancouver
slate: but anyways
30 second adventure
slate: but anyways
How about that Whalers hat!!! Let’s go Whalers!!
Dola does in fact have 600+ catches lol
Typically a WR hits their peak mid way through their career. Edelman hit that peak 2 or 3 years before he retired. I watched every game he played in. Including that one TD he scored in the blowout loss to the Ravens (in the playoffs when Welker got hurt). He was young and I expected he would do some foolish TD celebration. But he didn't. He spiked the ball in disgust because he knew that was a garbage time TD.
Slate, get into coaching brotha. You'd be a great special teams coach. This video was one of my favorites. This was great.
Infowars keeps displaying the most ridiculous images of flat earth which no FE believes.
Bruce smith 200 sacks no love
I just want the hot dog interview from when Slate was a kid to be highlighted 😂
Cmon BILL get on here. !!
We got your back. We miss you already. Mayo can’t shut tf up for 2 minutes to prove he’s not you & looking stupid. Imagine bill saying we’re gonna burn some cash. Then really don’t & he’d get KILLED LOL. But aww Mayo is knew. It’s ok. Bs. He knows how this goes. FUCK THE MEDIA or trying to “please” them
All they do is create issues. They don’t win games unless their bulletin board material. EDELMAN IS FIGHTING FOR YOU ! Fuk the Krafts. You did this. Brady had to be taught a system he can master. Taught by no nonsense and a 100 million dollar qb on the bench knowing he has to preform or the rich guy goes back in but Bill told Kraft no. Trust me. Especially after the regular season loss to the rams. They knew they could beat ‘em if they saw them again & Ty law was ROBBED OF SB MVP SO BAD it’s criminal.
Brilliant episode
I hope Matthew Slater gets in the hall.
The quality of their content and authenticity is OFF THE CHARTS …🙌🙌🙌🙌
Love these two bros!
1:11:52 if you watch that play in slow motion you can see where the ball hits his bicep from the ripples in his arm. Go Pats!
Wow…..and to think i never knew these dudes existed until the Brady Roast and the NE Netflix doc……
Slater was THE GUY that made younger athletes me included (when I was still playing) look at special teams differently and play special teams with the same intensity u would on offense or defense, and for that thank you slatter for making people not give up on the sport just because they were on special teams
Slater has all the best Wayne Brady vibes
Both these guys were undersized for the NFL – they made it on guts.
Jules won MVP in that Rams Superbowl, he had several great third and long catches that kept the drive going. It was a possession game, so those catches were important.
I'm surprised to find Jules and Slate in their "State of the Union meetings" were always paranoid that he dynasty and their careers were over. I always thought of the Patriots as brimming with confidence.
Even though it was a tight low scoring game, it may have been the only Superbowl the Patriots won by two scores.
I wish someone would tell Edelnut to trim his beard – it would look so much nicer.
Best episode because these legends are brother and this is real. Love there energy.
Slater is such a good interview loved this
58:34 Stoned him! Slate🐐
SLATE🐐
Man Julian is killing it on here, this is straight GOLD!
I vividly remember that 2018 season. the losses were memorable, the wins were memorable and that AFC title game is LEGENDARY. OT win in Arrowhead against a Chiefs team that was undeniable.
I am a 3 years retired elementary school teacher. I can't tell you how much I can relate to your experiences: dealing with a younger generation of teachers, fraterrnizing with colleagues, leaving a job behind that you loved, and finding a new routine.
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