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welcome back to mown sports as you can see from the thumbnail we got a good topic for you today man this this is the topic this that all the social media is talking about um all the big networks are talking about it uh it’s it’s bringing a lot of eyes and a lot of attention to the WNBA so um of course we’re gonna talk about it here on man down probably even discuss it a little bit more on Friday uh we got some guests coming in on Friday uh so that’ll make the conversation even more robust uh so we got to do all that stuff but I had to uh get in here and talk about it today uh I know I haven’t been on my normal days and coming in on Tuesdays but I’m here today so uh hopefully we get everybody in here and I’m a little bit late different from my uh normal time but I’m here uh let’s see if we can get this conversation started man let’s see if we can get uh uh everybody to join uh let me know where y’all coming from man let me know where my mod raters are at as well let me see who we got in 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been here all the time man I appreciate him 100% um yeah yeah I want to go ahead and get started so this this this conversation I’m I’m going to I mean this this whole episode is going to be mostly Caitlyn Clark in the WNBA and uh that hot topic that it is right now but I want to come from different perspectives or not even different perspectives but just different people uh who had something to say about it man and the the panel gills of ringer they they touched on it so we’ll go with that first and then of course what you see on the thumbnail is is what happened on ESPN First Take with Monica mut Stephen A Smith and then they had a GU and they continue that conversation today with uh chenel gum on there uh all of that stuff was very good uh to uh to go on uh and then I’m G end the show with uh Lebron James on his mind the guy uh mind the game podcast uh saying something that you might not expect him to say about Kyrie Irving um so it should be a good show um we got everything you want to see we got sound bites Graphics we got video uh breakdown of uh basketball we got all of that in this show so this show going to be good y’all can go ahead and go grab your crown or your or your uh apple cider your apple juice or your Mike’s Hard Lemonade whatever you want to drink but we go we GNA have a ball with this one so um let’s go ahead and get started so how do let’s kind of take a step back and see how all this Kate and Clark stuff even started Bes besides her being a phenomenal basketball player in college and lighting uh women uh women’s Hoops on fire and breaking records and uh taking our all way to the championship two years in a row like uh you know that she had a phenomenal Junior and Senior year so let’s not negate the fact that she was a wonderful basketball player and one of the best college basketball players we’ve seen uh from the standpoint of how she played the game um how um you know um how wide open she played the game and and outside the box because mostly players of of her caliber that that are that good they end up going to Big schools and when you go to those big schools you end up being teamed up with players equally as good as you if not better or uh slightly uh below you but you end up playing with some great players and when you have great players playing at a great program all together you’re not going to have one player uh putting up the type of stats that Caitlyn Clark did right so you have to have two things happen to put up the type of stats that Caitlyn Carr put up one you have to be a great player and two you have to play for a team or school that’s going to allow you to actually be everything for that team right I I’m everything for this team I’m obviously gonna put up a lot of stats because I can hoop right uh and that and that doesn’t normally happen right so she was in that unique situation right um but what really exploded this thing so much right uh and we got to go there on the elephant in the room and really really we really to uh touch on the real thing we can’t just dance around it so um in my opinion and you can disagree in my opinion what really blew this thing up it started from her people started hearing about this girl making these 30 foot threes these pull-ups backto back threes putting up big numbers and all that stuff that’s when she start catching attention but she mostly caught the attention of people who genuinely like basketball right that’s not going to be enough to actually go uh viral or go uh berserk the way she did you’re going to need more than that so the other element that came in is the fact that she start beating some of these big schools and when she start beating some of these big schools she brought in a whole different demographic for whatever reason now you got people who normally are not basketball Watchers normally are not NCAA basketball Watchers and normally are not women’s basketball Watchers right so you got a different type of people in and saying who is this girl we keep hearing about that’s beating all these big schools and doing it in this type of fashion where we’ve never seen it before I want to be I want to see that right so what would make someone who don’t watch a sport all of a sudden watch a sport and we have examples of that we have examples of Tiger Woods coming into the golf world and bringing in a whole different demographic that normally wasn’t there people who normally didn’t play golf or watch golf who is this young kid that’s beating everybody who is this young Prodigy I keep hearing about we like prodigies we like we like Payton Manning in that story of we his dad taught him how to be a quarterback from the time he could uh could could walk all right we we like those type of stories of a prodigy who is this young Prodigy that you know that’s just on another level we want to see that right so when we hear about a pton Manning we watching that pton Manning but it’s different with this with this one it goes across the race lines right so you got a predominantly white Sport with this Prodigy coming in Tiger Woods that we’re hearing about now we want to watch it to see if he’s actually as good as we’re hearing and you got black people watching golf like oh shoot someone that looks like me is playing golf and he’s beating players that no uh who who used to own the sport But Here Comes this guy that’s going to be the best is going to take over the sport we want to sit back and watch that right you can speculate as to why that demographic would want to do that but it’s the truth people wanted to watch Tiger Woods do his thing and and people that looked like him was interested because we’ve never seen it before very similar to Kayon clar right uh people who didn’t watch basketball who care care less about women’s Hoops especially college basketball was hearing about this white girl coming into this sport that mostly the great players you hear about are going to be women of color a lot a lot of times right and when you see that and then she’s beating these schools with these women of color it’s very interesting to people that look like Caitlyn Clark that’s practically fine so we move move on she’s doing her junior year senior year she’s exploding and then things a tension between uh uh black people white people right it’s been a little bit of tension that came to cres Crescendo around the time where she had to face South Carolina and Don Staley in her team right things start being said in the media like South Carolina had thugs on their team and they played rough and they did this and you know um I I I don’t know what it came from playing physical and playing rough uh all of a sudden was a bad thing right in my opinion why I think that was such a bad thing is because the advantage that a girl that is bigger would have or the advantage a girl that uh might come from a different demographic might come from a different background different upbringing I just go ahead and say it if I’m from the projects I’m probably going to be a little bit rough around the edges right and when it comes out on the basketball court it gives me a it gives me an advantage over someone who didn’t come up with their upbringing right that’s something that uh that they’re going to have to learn and and have to build up to but when you see it on the floor it looks like bullying it looks like here comes this girl from the hood that’s rough and tough and she’s pushing around this girl that’s not from the hood and it’s not that rough and tough and it looks like bullying right why are you pushing this girl around why are you treating her like that why are you doing x y andz and they don’t like that right it you know it it tugs at your heart string it’s almost like if you see your own kid out there getting pushed around the bullet I knows I know what that feels like I coached my son and I seen someone doing that to him on the court and I can’t tell you how much my B my blood was blowing bulling right I I couldn’t stand it man that he he kept pushing my son in the back XYZ that’s another story though right I really got pissed off about that so when you see someone that look like you uh those girls uh those yeah look like my Wi-Fi was acting up um can y’all hear me get somebody put in the chat if y’all can hear me if y’all can see me good cuz my WiFi is struggling right now uh I ain’t got no comments yet can y’all can y’all hear and see me okay we good all right so when that when that happens you see someone that look like you this is this is who you chose to cheer for and root for right this is this is this is who you have uh attached to your heartstring and you don’t want to see no one come in and interfere with that it’s especially if you you’re going to label it as as bullying you don’t want to see that so that’s why that’s that’s why all the that’s why all the animosity comes when it when it when it was uh directed at the players of South Carolina or directed at the players of LSU because I don’t want to see my girl get bullied right the media members do all of it and and from the other end there was a response to it if you’re going to keep calling these girl and we you know we know it’s a dog whistle we know you’re not saying exactly what you’re really thinking but you know you’re calling it bulling but we know why you calling it bulling right so if you going to say this about the South Carolina girls and the LSU girls there was a response for some some uh people of color in the media that would say things back toward the people who are on this side right so that’s the tension that you seen between Caitlyn Clark South Carolina LSU and then when Caitlyn Clark beat South Carolina and then go to the championship and we think that she’s gonna beat LSU and LSU prevails and then you get the famous you can’t see me thing from Angel Reese and she’s walking around and taunting her after the game and that’s when you got the heart string because now we just seen the girl we’ve been rooting for for the two uh two years get beat and we don’t like how you handle it and they attack Angel Reese from that moment all the way to now they’re still attacking her right you know if she does anything any any step they’re coming out there right so that’s what started most of this stuff and that’s what blew it up because now you got the whole country involved in it and you tie in race and you tie in competition and you tie in basketball you tie all that stuff in and it’s a big big old deal and that’s how all this started right so now we’re here gills Arena uh let’s hear what kenyaan Martin had to say about the incident that started from uh Kennedy Carter hip checking um Caitlyn Clark doing the inbounds before the ball was inbounded uh I’m going to play exactly what they said directly after which was their press conference and then I play Kenya Martin’s piece and I pause it here and there and then I get my commentary on the play before bumping in with Kaitlin it seemed like she she turned to you a little bit after the after the F clar did she say anything to you I don’t know what she said what’ you say to her I it is what it is you know I feel like I’m just at the point where you accept it um and don’t retaliate like you know just let them hit you be what it is don’t let it get inside your head um and know what’s coming I think at this point like I know I’m going to take a couple hard shots a game um and that’s what it is it doesn’t I’m trying not to let it bother me and um you know just just stay in the game and saying what’s important because usually it’s the second person that gets caught when if you retaliate or something so uh just trying to stay in the game and focus on my team and focus on what’s important so aggressive play has been a main stay in the WNBA for some time uh despite the increased attention Clark has brought rookies and vets getting done like this is nothing new but I have to ask you guys what are your thoughts on this incident involving Kennedy Carter kayin Clark welcome to the lead Rook all right welcome to the league Andre’s gonna through the same thing most rookies go through it welcome to the League this you can’t keep turning cheeks yeah you only got two St you really got four you don’t want to to hit you on but can’t keep turning cheeks man like I ain’t saying you gotta go out there and be like try to hurt nobody Kaylin kayin get gang [ __ ] it so Matt said her teammates need to stick up for it right I heard Matt over the weekend like where the [ __ ] are her teammates this that in the third w i get that to a certain degree cuz we in this together I understand that but kit to stick up for herself first and foremost you’re a rookie I get that but this basketball y’all out here everybody we hooping this is the job we all work for the WBA but because I have a celebrity status I’m this okay I get that but you got to take it for yourself then your teammates second right yeah I was telling the story same situation with Blake I told Blake list you got to take up for yourself dog they gonna keep doing it until you hit somebody back or hit somebody first BL Griff Griffin with the memph like yeah like you you got to they going to keep doing it to you till you hit somebody F like she said the second one get caught right so be first yeah hit somebody like same situation somebody looking for a rebound running her do the same thing that she did to you now people understand like she ain’t taking no [ __ ] instead of no that’s not the response they’re gonna keep doing it to you you gotta stick up for yourself and your teammates stick up for you second is but I’m like I’m not g just let people I just like you got you got to stand like eventually yeah nature to react to reaction yeah yeah so but like I said be first you know this coming okay this per I’m G get one off and see how they like that gotta change the narrative that’s what I’m asking to do like I get it you rookie you don’t want to seem like damn all that this is sports and this is the [ __ ] Lions then that you’re in young lady is eating or be eating at this point right you you are famous and you are great at your craft now but if you don’t perform it ain’t guaranteed yeah so you got to this is the Lion’s Den this is [ __ ] old school Gladiator Last Man Standing like you got to change your approach and mentality you’re dealing with Pros now this is not I got scholarship and I’m okay next here mhm no this is grown women trying getting paid and and it’s they feel a certain way about you you understand that yes get their respect get their respect and that’s my earned and going out and busting their ass and play but not taking no [ __ ] so I like the point that he’s making right he’s he from one end he’s saying they’re coming after you with physicality um and we know how I mean you gotta match physicality to physicality and I don’t think Caitlyn Clark is against all of that right you know Caitlin Clark has been physical with players in college she’s been physical with players in the WNBA she’s pushed people she’s elbow people as a matter of fact before she got hip check she Eed the girl right that’s that that’s the play that don’t normally get played on ESPN but she Eed the girl before that right so she she Ms it up and she got in somebody fast after she hit a three in her face you know what I mean and she’s talking and she’s chirping trust me man Caitlyn Clark she she with the shits right you know all this protection that y’all claiming she need and all this protection that you know the the media is coming in the cape for and all this stuff she she she knows what’s going on she you know she you know and but she’s gonna play to the media if I can go out in the media and and and play one role and have them do my bidding for them for me and all of a sudden you know uh I I start getting a different treatment where nobody can really touch me then hell yeah I’m gonna do that I mean but you know it’ll be more respect for if if she does what Kenyan is suggesting and say You Gotta Fight Fire with Fire you gotta get feury you gotta be tough you got to do all of that stuff you gotta get through this you’re a rookie they’re testing you they you they’re putting you through the ringer get through it it’s only been 10 games you got about 30 more left get through it right so uh and and then let’s and then come back next year ready to go a little bit tougher a little bit stronger and ready to uh face all of that so yeah I agree with Kenya Martin she got to do that part uh do I agree with M Barnes and his suggesting that her teammates gota uh be there forward to yeah shoot do I agree with Draymond Green saying she needed an enforcer I don’t know if she needed an enforcer you know uh they told me she was the goat I don’t know if she I really don’t know if she needed enforcer I mean maybe maybe she just needs some years under her belt and and until she could be the person that that’s inflicting the pain on on on rookies you know I mean so um I I don’t know if there’s any other way to do it other than actually just go through the fire that’s the only that’s the only way I can think of and that’s what Keenan is suggesting uh the other piece of it is is he said you gotta perform which I agree and when I play this gibber Arena part You’re Gonna Hear nick uh Nick Young trying to come in you know Nick Young soft spoken and GB Arenas is his big brother so every time he tried to come in and suggest Caitlyn got a hoop though right that they would talk over him and I’m and I’m going explain to you why I think that is right uh listening to uh ESPN listening to speak listening to give Arenas they know the content creation game Stephen A Smith show has been number one for several years running he knows the content creation game he knows what you need to talk about what need to be said and how to play the game there’s a clip I’m not going to play it for you today you got to go find it there’s a clip of the show today on First Tape where Stephen A Smith is Laing we going stay number one we going to win because I know how to discuss things and what to talk about and then Shannon said you have to play the game and all this stuff and what they’re suggesting is look we know what needs to be said we know what’s true but we know what needs to be said on TV so when G when Gil kept talking over Nick Young you’re hear kept talking over Nick Young and wouldn’t let him say the quiet part out loud that lets me know now we not we not going route we’re not going with the realness like you know I mean keep that somewhere else we we we selling content right that that’s basically what it was saying but what Nick Young was trying to say is look man we doing all this man she not hoop He Said She Gotta hoop y’all keep talking about this Jordan and Curry stuff Jordan was Jordan day one right Curry earned his name in the league by balling like she got to actually hoop she’s not hooping like that y’all calling this girl to say she she’s not hooping but they wouldn’t let him say that but here’s how uh gibber aren uh uh approached it right we’ve played we understand when someone gets too much in too much power too much money they get handed all of these things without earning it it pisses people off naturally we seen it with LeBron J like Wendy like we see it we understand you can’t fool us right so we know that there is a a deep down like she’s getting things that she didn’t earn you can’t be mad at her right it a there nothing she did she just went out there did what she did in college people gravitated to the style that she has nothing against you guys it’s her style that people fell in love with so we’re not we’re not saying bow down to her but the fact that you got to take cheap shots let you know like if you can’t just play defense and stop her the way you want the fact that you got to do things out of your character if this is not your character then you are angry about the situation all right I’mma pause it there and because he said two things because he’s he’s he’s trying to address and make the point that these girls are jealous of citla cart because she is giving the keys to the city uh she’s giv the face of the uh n WNBA like they made her the face and she ain’t play a WNBA game and they want to drive the narrative home that that is making these girls jealous and that’s why they’re taking cheap shots at her this is my push back for that uh I don’t think that equates to jealousy just because they’re defending her and I don’t think I see cheap shots on her except this one cheap shot one it’s been 10 games 11 games I think one cheap shot so what they’re going to do is take that one cheap shot and now they’re going to make a blanket statement to qualify all the defense that’s been played on her and make that cheap shot uh represent all of that so all the great defense that was played on her the physical defense the screen set and they’re going to equate all of that is the same thing as that cheap shot and then say all the WNBA girls are jealous that’s crazy to do right it’s been one cheap shot in a lot of great defense right but we’re going to talk about this one cheap shot as if that represents jealousy or equates to jealousy then he said it’s the play style that everyone fell in love with yes that is that is true but everyone fell in love with the play style that she played in college which right now appears that she can’t duplicate in the WNBA why because the defense is physical right and she’s saying this play style is what they’re coming to coming to watch but when they come to watch they can’t see that play style they can see a glimpse of it she’s hit a couple of 30 foot threes they can see a glimpse of it but for the most part if she’s running around and and facing a lot of physicality and and and then she has to defend on the other end and she’s getting bumped and bruised and all that stuff and she’s gota she got to work hard to get her shots them legs are not always going to be there now will next year look like uh this year probably not may maybe her legs will be stronger next year and she can with withstand all of that but right now it don’t look like she can duplicate uh what she did in college and WNBA because the defense is too good the girls are too good she’s not the best girl in the league by far right so they can’t duplicate it so all these eyes that she brought to the WNBA are coming to watch a game and they’re coming to see Caitlyn and they’re coming to see Caitlyn be what the media told uh everyone that she was gonna be which is the goat the Savior the Messiah the best player in the WNBA remember they said that she can play in The Big Three they said she can play in the NBA Rob Parker said that these are the things they were saying they said she’s too good for the WNBA you’re telling all this stuff before she get there and these girls that have been there that is very disrespectful like it’s very disrespectful just because you want this narrative that she’s the Savior and the goat and she’s proving that she’s not and these girls are determined to show you that because when you bring all these eyes to see Caitlyn you’re going to see someone better than Caitlyn right and any smart person that want to see good basketball or this style of play that she plays can see whenever she plays someone there’s someone that can play that style in the WNBA but it ain’t her let me introduce you to someone named jel Lloyd who led the WNBA in scoring last year 24 points a game and she also broke the single season record for points in the WBA almost a thousand points uh in the WNBA and she set that record last year or broke that record last year right um this clip I want to show you is going to show a couple of things it’s going to show you number one uh how they was defending her right she’s such a great score this was toward the end of the season so everybody got tape on her they know she’s a microwave they call her the Mamba she wears number 24 for Kobe right and and G reeners is talking about this play style this play style this play style of shooting and all this stuff but what if I told you it was a girl who had the play style of the Mamba in the NBA the way she shoots the way she pulls up it’s a beautiful jump shot one of the best jump shots I’ve seen in the WNBA beautiful jump shot she’s quick fast she can move without the ball so I’m going show you this clip and it’s she came into the game needing nine points to uh uh break the record right and I want to I want to show you how fast she got those nine points it was like this back to back right uh so when I play you g to see uh her you uh use a high screening roll and they blitzed her and doubl her they get the ball out of her hand they’re not trying to give her they’re not trying to let her set the record on them right they’re not they’re not allowing that they’re trying to defend this girl so they’re doubling her on every High screening roow to get the ball out of her hand so you’ll see a couple of clips of that but then you also see once she start scoring they came in bunches and I want you to see everything that she did to get those points I want you to see how she handled the ball I want you to see how uh uh beautiful her jump shot jump shot is I want you to see what she uh does without the ball all of this stuff and I want you to tell me if you would prefer that play style over the play style of Caitlyn Clark cu I know what I would prefer so this is her coming down she’s going to she’s going to use a screen watch them BL that’s a double she had to get the ball out of her hand they they blit her on that screen right but here’s the point if you sag off of her she’s going to pull up it don’t matter where it’s from you sag off look how beautiful that jump shot is that’s how she started scoring right that’s how she started the points right I want you to see how quick these points come here’s a Miss shot they she missed so much time with that knee injury the last three games but she comes out here and looks fresh and what a pro to come out and want to play not in the playoff they doubling her again so she has to get the ball up every time she uh gets a screen they doubling on her off that screen they’re not going to allow her to get shots up seatt they don’t want to let her get shots up so there she is on the break got to got to be aware and fast to get get points look how quick these points are coming though and fifth most in WNBA history to break Bri Stewart sing season scoring record began with 911 for juel today and she already watch this one dribble step back oh my God on the are you are you are you seeing this and she has it tied are you saying this this is going to come very very quickly LS a clar up no good around taken by hon hon with it what do they G to use they dou her off a screen again you see that every every time she try to get that screen they dou her that’s how Caitlyn Clark get most of her points by using that high screening roll every time J LD used the high screening rooll they double her and took the ball out of her hand but look she’s so good she’s gonna find her points look at this how she go look at that’s physical defense tough got rounded and now she has the record right so now she has the record she has the record they call a timeout they call a timeout now she’s the new Rec points this season atast already with 11 look what she does coming out of the 12 run I want you to look at the clock to see how much time going what she does shoulders and carried the load 11 points in three and a half minutes but she’s got to keep adding on she playing def at a right now what she going to do here pull from again hello lyd with 14 you can forget Asia Wilson today I mean this is unreal how good this girl is so when you see what what’s supposed to happen with the WNBA and the reason why I think some of these females are not jealous but I think they’re frustrated not with Caitlyn but with the media courage because look we could build this league so quick so fast and so huge if you use all of us Caitlyn is not the Savior you think she is she’s bringing eyes to the league and when you come to the league and you see someone play that good like ju Lloyd you’re not supposed to get mad because we’re playing defense on Caitlyn and you want to see Caitlyn do what she did in college you’re watching someone is doing what Caitlyn did in college and it says something about you if you don’t watch JW lyd play and say that is amazing I like that style of basketball and it also shows that these guys are not paying attention to the WNBA and watching the games because if they think the style of play of K is all of that if you watch je Lord you got to love that style of play and it’s very similar to the Mambo she has that Mama mentality the girl can flat out score and she’s not the only one she’s not the only one in order for us to see what Caitlyn did in college she’s going to have to have a team play the way she played at Iowa and if you got good players on your team it’s not necessary for someone to play like that she’s got to get way better she’s not as good as people think she is she’s not the savior of the WNBA I’m sorry like that that’s the difference right when when uh Sabrina the whole Kobe thing same [ __ ] oh Kobe Kobe Kobe we gonna see like it’s it’s human nature but at the end of the day I can tell you this history is history they do angel race too yeah yeah but I’m saying it’s the it’s the same no matter how we look at it it’s the same thing these rookies are more famous than the rookies before them yeah they didn’t earn anything more famous than the WNBA start it with if they’re more famous than the W it is in itself and I and are they better than you guys right now of course not no one’s questioning are you better than them that is not the issue here the issue is but [ __ ] is changing no matter if you like it or not right no M you can hit her all you want right now the league itself is going to change it for them right when when Jordan came in and everybody was hitting on him and the NBA identified this is the Golden Goose for the league they changed the rules for him right when you hear Isaiah Thomas well they didn’t change it for bird they didn’t change it for man they didn’t change it for me they Chang it for him though they did right and who got penalized you 30 years later you’re still wondering why you didn’t make the USA team that him right here he’s the reason the Golden Goose when he was like Hey have we want uh how about Isaiah Thomas hell no it’s next right she gotta start doing some Jord [ __ ] though hey you hear you hear Nick Young he said she got to start doing some Jordan [ __ ] though like like you keep talking about this Jordan stuff I ain’t saying no Jordan stuff like Jord when Jordan came in as a rookie he was doing Jordan stuff like you talking about changing rules for Caitlyn she’s not doing no Jordan stuff what are we talking about hey there’s gonna be a point in time I say yeah where she’s gonna be the face of it all sure already is and she’s going to remember everything that’s happened oh yeah but they probably won’t be around though and and most of y’all ain’t gonna be around right because they they’re gonna get rid of the outliers that’s how human nature is the the game is going to be changed for her style which is going to benefit all the girls who play like that finesse girl can score who can shoot it’s gonna open it it’s gonna open up you think like Steph Curry about say hey he start getting bump hey hey Steve Nash right hey take the hand check off now he gets to Ram around and do all but it helps everybody else out but that’s the issue with the NBA that’s why we don’t like the the uh the NBA right now they went too far on the Spectrum with defense and offense they they they did too much they messed the game up for the sake of entertainment and more scoring now Adam cver is seeing that affected them mightily they can’t even they can’t even go and convincingly beat teams in the Olympics anymore because they got a Sofer brand of basketball in NBA and they go overseas and play they’re playing a more physical Brandon basketball and they’re getting bullied right so that’s one area and also now fans are starting to be turned off by the NBA and it’s sh up when we watch a dag on allar game like all all all thep it took a while for us to see all the symptoms but it’s a sickness in the NBA going on and that sickness started from what they’re what they’re asking the WNBA to do for one player can you change the rules to make the game easier for this one player so we can see her run around and shoot 30 foot threes but what the WNBA uh uh women are saying is we don’t want the NBA influence on us we don’t want to play like that y’all product is trash we have a better brand y’all got the better players because they’re better athletes and y’all can’t even play a good brand of basketball because y’all sold yall yourself for entertainment the WNBA we still passionate about basketball more than entertainment we’re fine we’re we’ll build it the slow way it’s moving in the right direction we’ll build it the slow way we don’t have to fast track it and then start manipulating the game too much for one player is one player she can’t she can’t get more than 20 points a game and you want to help her by changing the rules you you can’t do that the WNBA don’t want that to happen and I like the WNBA the way it is they go in the post they use post players what they’re asking them to do is do we want to see fiveman out basketball and Luca ball and Caitlyn CK ball all in the NBA and have all 12 teams playing like that do we want to see that do we want to see high screen and Road threes layups and that’s it no girls going in the post we setting screens illegally we’re moving on we we want to see all of that no physicality no no bumping no hand we want that’s what we want to see in the WNBA I think not and the girls are pushing back saying we don’t don’t invite that here we don’t do that here right so the men that’s trying to lead this conversation you need to actually talk to the women and see if that’s the type of League they want you’re offering it to everybody but they’re telling you we don’t want that type of League she got to get there though she got to prove Nick right Nick Young again saying she got to get there though and they still talking over and won’t let him go she has to prove that she can play the girls she can be Jimmy for no no no what I’m saying she she has to prove that she can play for the women themselves for media themselves the the marketing is they want her right now yeah and that’s what like though man it’s he’s right the the the media the media and the and Caitlyn’s fans Not basketball fans I want to differentiate that there’s Caitlyn fans and then there’s media right basketball fans are not the same as Caitlyn fans some people that followed Caitlyn from the NCAA to WNBA just like Caitlyn they didn’t come for basketball because if they did and they seen juel lyd they would be ju ly friends all of a sudden right so you got to ask yourself if players better than Caitlyn who play a a more appeasing style of uh basketball and they lead in the league in scoring and they already got two championships like ju lyd does and a gold medal how come she’s not the one getting marketed so you have to ask yourself why what’s the difference between ju Lloyd the better player and Caitlyn the rookie well Caitlin got more years uh to go so I mean if if if you get on the bandwagon with Caitlyn now you got more time with I guess J Lord already been in the league like seven years right so I I guess that’s a difference other than that they both girls uh they both play guard um so the only difference is one is white as one and one is black right we got to address the elephant in the room so is it the white demographic is saying that we don’t want to choose a black girl because we’ve already seen that before you know we want this one we want this girl because she look like us that’s fine right but when people call it out and say that you can’t deny it if that’s what it is right and you can’t get mad because someone is playing defense on your chosen one right so if the media chose her this is what’s going on right uh I remember watching the movie Will Smith was in called I Am Legend and I remember at the end uh he figured out how to kill or how to uh get rid of that virus that was turning everybody to zombies but he had to die in order for him to you know he pretty much had to sacrifice himself right and I remember saying I really don’t like the way that movie ended man I wanted him to to to live so much so that I think fans there was a fanmade trailer with an alternate ending a fanmade alternate ending to that movie I used to think it was real uh and I like the fact that he survived in that alternate ending right we we we like things the way we like to see it but imagine me saying to the person who wrote that movie the person who said I want to write this movie I want to direct it so you can be entertained and I offer that to you and then I tell you as fans not just me but a whole lot of fans tell you we don’t like what you’re offering us we want the alternate ending and we try to force him to redo the movie with the alternate ending in it imagine doing that that’s what the Caitlyn Clark fans are doing they’re telling the WNBA the commissioner the players the coaches the teams they’re telling everybody the brand of basketball you’re giving us uh we don’t want to see that because Caitlyn is not doing what I came and I paid to see I want you to change everything so that one player can get her 30 points and shoot her threes change everything so that one player can do it and the whole media is okay with this all the k fans are okay with this they’re saying change everything for that one player and that’s not what they did for Michael Jordan and and that’s not what they did for Michael Jordan here’s the Spectrum in the middle that’s the way you supposed to call the game and officiate the game that’s textbook NBA rule book all the way to the right in the red is way more that’s that’s that’s the Jordan rules that’s the Detroit Pistons that’s that uh late mid 80s early 90s that’s that defense or or pretty much all of the 80s that’s that defense where we’re fouling and we’re clotheslining people and you’re not even getting a flagrant for it right a foul supposed to be a foul but in the Jordan rule era fouls wasn’t fouls so the only that they keep comparing Michael Jordan to the league now or or to the WNBA now if they change the rules but that’s not true the Jordan rules the the the defense and the fouls that he had to endure was way past the rule book what they was allowing the only thing that the commissioner did is scaled it back to the Middle where is a good balance where there’s still physical play there was still hand checking there was still physical play in the post and all that stuff but we just wasn’t allowing football we’re not allowing football which was always to the right we’re in the Middle where the NBA rule book is at that’s exactly where the WNBA is right now the WNBA is calling everything by the rulle book is just a physical brand of basketball what the media and Caitlyn Clark fans are asking them to do is go all the way to the left to where the NBA got in trouble with and where you’re saying you can’t touch nobody we’re calling everything and we give him star calls so this star can uh uh Prevail and we can sell tickets they want to go all the way to the other end of the spectrum where the hands off the merchandise is what we like to call it shout out the ticket TV he want to go all the way hands off the merchandise this is what the fans want for Caitlyn cart all so she can score points and if she’s the Messiah and you got to do all of that for her to score points then is she really the Messiah or not I don’t know you I mean tell me what I’m wrong at right so you got all that going on and uh I give you some more sound bites this is lesan McCoy and everybody talking about it from the spee but uh WNBA is changing no I’m sorry this is Pat Beverly still on gills Arena listen to how he talked about it and you know he’s a physical player but uh WNBA is changing it’s changing fast right um we didn’t know who was going to bring it like who was going to start it off obviously we have people who’ve done it before the Lisa Les the cace Parker people who came in and kind of like BR a whole like storm with them but this woman uh Kaylin Clark you know she’s not the tallest she doesn’t have the a crazy frame that you know but she got she got women’s basketball on lock right now and she hasn’t really been in it in a while and a lot of people haven’t seen a lot of it anything that happens with her is going to be magnified right which is great for the WNBA I mean I’ve actually practiced with the Minnesota links and to be in a game not not to be in a game to be in practice with them and see how physical they are and how they set screens you know they they got to depend a lot on technique technique requires physicality so the game is a is a physical game I like the bump I don’t know if it caused the the fall over you know what I’m saying but extra put on I I don’t think extra but he’s probably caught off guard too you know she probably expecting that but I mean I she knew this was going to happen everybody kind of knew it was going to happen I did it with Lonzo ball people praised it you know they do it with uh Kaylin Clark and people uh you know they want to go uh to the first extent to you know smother someone’s name for doing it so you know it’s just different uh is it a part of game yeah will she get it some more yeah I mean that just happens when you’re a rookie it’s part of your rookie Hazen on and off the court um this is part of the game I mean I played outside you without referees and bumped the [ __ ] I just had go you know you’re a Hooper you’re a Hooper let him get 21 yeah you know what I’m saying like right I mean right you know what I’m saying that’s just a part of the game especially those who actually played the game you know so uh but it’s good I mean it’s good for both sides good for the WNBA uh you know I’m not saying that you know bumping people and all that is cool but it’s a part of the game you know so so Brandon we talked uh and he’s right it is a part of the game and and also yes he did do this to Lonzo ball and they praised him they praised everybody who gave him that heat and why did they give Lonzo ball that heat because Lavar ball was going out in the media and telling everybody his son was ready ready for the NBA and then his second son is going to be ready and he’s going to have three sons in the NBA and how they going to take over basketball and how they all going to play on the same team and if you get him on the same team they gonna win the championship and then when he said Lonzo ball better than Steph cerry when he said that everybody was like man who is this dude they’re mad at Lonzo ball Lavar ball because he came out with a big baller brand uh shoe and uh clothing line and said his sons ain’t signing with no uh big uh shoe contract and they thought he was arrogant and and they thought that what he was saying about his son was a bit too much the things that he was saying he’s better than Steph Curry was way too much for the media to handle so what did the NBA say well we go show you and we go expose your son because your mouth is big and when Lonzo ball came in from game one he had Patrick Beverly Patrick bever was in him 94 feet so when everyone say there’s no such thing as a rookie getting like Caitlyn Clark Lonzo B was one of those rookies why because his dad said that he could survive the NBA and he was better than Steph Curry no one called that jealousy when Pat Bell was in Alonzo uh uh ball Hip Pocket like that no one said he was jealous of him we understood that if you’re GNA run your mouth we’re g to show you what the league is about so did Caitlyn cart have a dad or a mom that went out in the media and did that no but the media did it the media called her the Messiah the media said she was gonna save the WNBA the media said that she was our Lord and savior the media said that she could play in the NBA the media said she can play in The Big Three the media said she was bigger than everybody in the uh uh Basketball Association right the media said that so the media was the uh Lavar ball for Caitlyn Clark she had a Lamar Ball but that Lamar ball or that Lavar ball had a bigger mouth than Lavar ball because it was ESPN it was Fox it was bar it was the ringer it was every major platform that was her Lavar ball so quite naturally the females was like oh they think it’s sweet over here okay well let’s show them but what they want the females to do is say oh no don’t give her that treatment because she’s supposed to bring you money and you got to be nice to her it makes no sense listen to L Shan McCoy I’m GNA go to commissioner when Michael Jordan was Michael Jordon and before he kind of ran the NBA he was that superstar that was coming there right it was the Jordan rule that the p was hey Jord come in the lane you knock him down do whatever you got to do to him even though it’s basketball which that wasn’t but it was part of trying to to execute a plan against the greatest player that we we seen in the game at that time was the biggest exciting player like Caitlyn is but if you look at the way Michael Jordan’s careers went right and he is a great player and he was tough David Stern the commissioner he changed that hold up y’all are not about to mess up the biggest thing for the NBA who was Michael Jordan let’s put it in Contex right now today the commissioner is stepping there and say y’all are not about to mess up the biggest thing that’s bringing all the awareness to the game from Caitlyn if you look at Michael he was the first person I really get them personalized um customized um sneakers deals right because before everybody signs a Converse and all them no dord had his own shoe this is how I want to design it and ever since then you see all these big contracts from LeBron all these other guys kin’s the same way now she got her shoe she got Nike $28 million um um contract with Nike and all these different endorsements she’s start bringing all these different women to the light now so I just feel like they hate on the wrong person don’t hate on the Messiah don’t do it I’ll be quick see he called her the Messiah Austin River said the entire league is Destiny Child and she’s Beyonce like this is disrespectful to adult grown women when you’re when you’re saying stuff like this the whole league is Destiny Child and they’re looking at the film and saying I can see all her weaknesses they looked at the South Carolina game and just seen Raven Johnson who was a sophomore make her look like she was an average player because her defense was so well so so so good on her she couldn’t handle the physical defense she couldn’t handle someone forcing her to her right and that and and when you’re a professional that’s been in a league like Diana terasi for like 15 20 years it’s very easy to pick up on nuances like that just by watching the film and they can see I know exactly what she can’t do and what she can do and what her weakness is is so if they’re telling me that this is our savior the the females are looking at it like I she’s clearly not maybe she could turn into it maybe she has the potential but what the media is saying right now is is is OD it’s OD like I don’t see a savior right so for Lan mcco to call her the goat he called her the goat several times during that uh doing that show he calls her the goat already like the goat of women’s basketball not college she say that’s the best female basketball he ever seen she said he said she’s the goat that’s what he called her and now he’s calling her the Messiah and I beg to differ right I beg to differ because what I really think she is is more like John the Baptist right when you looked at John the Baptist if you know anything about the Bible is people thought he was the Messiah because he was baptizing people in water and because he spoke like someone that was a teacher or a rabbi they Mist him for the Messiah some people even call him Rabbi and the Messiah he had to correct them I’m not the Messiah right I’m not the Messiah but people looked at it and thought it was we thought Larry Bird and Magic might have been the Messiah but they were John the Baptist they was the one that was supposed to come before the Messiah I think Juju Watkins is is is is going to be the person that’s really going to do what everyone saying Caitlyn Clark is going to do Caitlyn Clark just came to set the tables for right here’s what John the Baptist said this is what uh uh uh John said if you look at it in the Highlight he said he it is who comeing after me is preferred before me who sh latch it I am not worthy to unloose this is after they ask him why are you baptizing we thought you was the Messiah you doing all this baptize he said no man I baptize in water what we seeing from Caitlyn right now is a water baptism but Juju Watkins is going to come and light it on fire he baptized with fire she is going to baptize with fire Caitlyn Clark cannot she’s not worthy enough to untie her sneakers her Nikes so what Caitlyn Clark is doing is great for the NBA or the WNBA but what the people is going to come after her they’re doing we ain’t seen the Messiah yet this ain’t it because the Messiah is going to Garner this much attention that Caitlyn has but they also GNA do it on the court as well what Caitlyn Clark was told to everybody that she was going to do is not translating to wins it’s not translating to her dominating and none of that that’s why they’re trying to ask them to change the game can you change the game please stop calling fouls please let her get away with things please give her star calls change the whole rule book just for Caitlyn so we can see her do what she did at Iowa she changed it she still might not do it and based on what we just seen je L doing against the same type of Defense what do you think je L is going to do if they change the rules and it’s more players like ju lyd so what do you think they’re going to do anesu shoots better than Caitlin Clark and shoots it from a deep range that’s why she was in a three-point contest against St Curry I hope to see her in the uhh Three-Point Contest again this Allstar break I hope to see Caitlyn there as well I think I think they both should be there right that’ll be really good going against Steph and clay maybe let’s see how that works out but anesu is like that Kelsey Plum is like that AA Wilson is like that and there’s some more out there as well so I mean I’m want to open the phone lines up man I’m G read y’ comments I’m going take y’ phone calls uh and and and let’s have a talk about this thing man tell me where I’m right at tell me where I’m wrong at you know you can you you can tell me if I’m wrong I accept that but yeah uh I gotta check a freshman in high school named Kina Smith I’m pretty sure it’s a lot man yeah we we we haven’t se what what what lashan M called the Messiah we ain’t seen it yet we ain’t seen this ain’t it this ain’t Messiah work right here that we’re seeing this is not Messiah work that’s not what it is you got to stop calling her the Savor of the WNBA she bought an audience but there another reason why Their audience follow her there they follow her there because what she did in college Adam Morrison JJ reick and jimr fet all had phenomenal College uh uh senior years and Junior years shooting the ball like that Adam Morrison was shooting from all over the place so much so he tricked the Bobcats and drafted him number one and he had a couple of good games he scored 28 30 37 you know what I mean he had some he had some eighto games and all that stuff but for the most part he wasn’t it and we found out really quick and then he was out of the league Roland Curtis what’s up brother so yeah man uh good topic um yeah I’ve been kind of following what’s been happening everybody I guess everybody’s been following it because is been making a lot of news uh but what isn’t making too much news is Caitlyn Clark’s production on Sunday so she had her team lost by 36 points uh Del Liberty beat them 104 to 68 and Kaylin Clark had only three points two rebounds five assists she shot 10% from the field 15% from three and she had uh yeah she had three turnovers but she’s averaging 5.7 turnovers so I mean this is disappointing because a lot of us are not a lot like say even you say casual basketball fans casual sports fans we’re not coming to watch jul Lloyd or Diana terasi or if you you you you you you told me about danana Bonner a uh Wilson a lot of us are coming because they told us that like you said Caitlyn Clark they they’re saying Caitlyn Clark is the Messiah and we’re coming and she’s doing I mean I don’t know what is like the AL mesiah that ain’t the Messiah yeah she doing she doing demon work three points losing by 36 that’s that’s that’s demon work that ain’t the Messiah yeah the last time you guys were on you bet she had eight points in that other game now she has three points in this last game and it’s like uh man it’s so disappointed I mean now I’m not even looking forward to the to the Diana Diana terasi game on the 30th I think she’s gonna I think she’s gonna bomb I think she’s gonna I thought she was going to probably show her up because of all the the trash that terasi has been talking but but now I think Caitlin Clark is just going to lay more eggs because it seems like the pressure or whatever in the defense and everything is just getting to her and she’s performing worse than wor I mean even Le when LeBron came in or anybody who came into the any league and they had so much hype on them I I don’t remember them doing stuff like this you know so um I know we talked about going to see a WNBA game but I think I’m gonna hold off a little bit watch hey no but but look listen but listen it’s good basketball still being played and it’s good players on the floor you get what I’m saying so yeah you might not get to see Iowa Caitlyn Clark but you get to see AA Wilson who’s a a great player in the post and just just to see her her explosion when she when when she takes off like you know her first step man I love it man like she look like she I mean as Asia wilon looked like she might be on that P like she I mean she’s like the way she move is unreal like we seen Britney grinder be tall and be able to dunk and stuff like that but the way she moved was very much like a female AA Wilson she don’t move like no female bro I mean like danana Bara is about six 6’4 65 and most of them girls that was that height like Lisa Leslie played in the post uh Candace Parker had a little bit of a outside game but Candace Parker is is more like an Anthony Davis uh with her versatility as a tall guy but uh a tall girl but uh but danana Barner is like Kevin Durant on the perimeter she don’t play no post basketball she’s a straight up guard at 65 with a sweet touch just like Kevin Durant like it’s so much good basketball out there man it’s unreal right but but all they put in our face is is Caitlyn Clark if it wasn’t for you I wouldn’t know who danana Bonner was and if it wasn’t for you today I I didn’t know who jwel Lloyd was I never heard of her and then after you you showed the little Clips I went on and just TR looked at her averages and stuff and I’m trying to find highlights about her but man it’s tough because in my face every day in my face every day is Caitlyn Clark and she’s she’s kind of hurting the league a little bit and whose fault is that that’s the wnba’s fault no it’s no no it’s not the wnba’s fault it’s the media’s fault because they told us they told us that lie and Mikey Brad uh when they uh skyar Diggin plays for the storm which is so so imagine skyar Diggins alongside with um with juel L which I just showed y’all clips of they on the same Squad as a back court and that’s scary cause sky can ball right so um yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s that’s what that’s what they looking like over there uh and yeah you right you’re right Adam we do got to do an exorcism because uh the exorcism they want to do is to to remove defense and fouls you know that all of that but go ahead r no I I agree I agree with you that it’s the the media nowly did they push her up like they I mean like you said they were the Lavar ball for Caitlyn Clark and they they put they put her out there like that but then even now that she’s kind of she’s came in here and she’s she’s kind of tripping all over the place they’re still trying to push her as the Messiah as the dude on uh speak T right it’s funny you I like your I like the analogy with kayen Clark Being John the Baptist and JuJu Watkins being Christ but you know what the the funny thing about uh about scriptures is I remember there’s a verse where Christ said that John no no he said nobody born a woman is greater than John the Baptist and I I’ve asked people in church and say like what does that mean how can how can John the Baptist be the greatest person born of women because I mean David was born of women uh uh Elijah Elisha were born of women uh Moses born of women so how how can Christ say that John the Baptist and most people don’t have an answer they just say he he must be because Christ said it but nobody understands why he would say that unless he’s saying that just because this is a person who’s who’s gonna get get you ready for me maybe that’s why he’s the greatest man ever but yeah because I and we’ll talk about it more uh offline but it’s it’s it’s because the it’s because the work that John did uh paved the way for what uh for what Christ did I mean he he I mean he he really did he went out and did everything that Christ did but it was just the um the training wheels version of it baptizing with water like like everybody was already ready imagine if Christ showed up and nobody knew what baptism was right right now now he got to teach them all of that now you know I mean so right John the Baptist was we we just need we just need uh Caitlyn Clark to live up to the John the back you’re not even living up to that so thank you for taking my call man but yeah I’ll keep watching I’ll keep listening and thank you I appreciate all the information you giv us about the the WNBA but U I’m G just keep listening and watching and uh I’m not going to make a a decision right now but I’mma keep listening to what you guys have and uh hopefully the W and kayin cl can step it up and uh hopefully you know all this attention won’t be lost after this season but uh thank you for taking my talk all right thanks man all right let’s get two more phone calls in Super Chat from K quit man my blood uh the fevera player is weak for not riding for her uh where were her teammates said they don’t have any Smith holes or morning side in there man yeah you’re right they don’t they don’t man but that’s okay though Caitlyn gota Caitlyn got to get tough too man so um we’ll see we’ll see if they do something different later man Chris what’s up from Riley what’s going on man what’s going on what’s up man what’s your thoughts uh what you talking about Caitlyn Clark of course man how man are you watching the show or not man good Lord man man I just came on man I just came on man I’ll be late watching y’all man yeah we still talking about Kaitlin um I mean it’s like this man um I feel like the the media is is just putting too much on her on her man for real um one thing about LeBron James as much as I you know criticize LeBron he’s the most hyped guy ever out of any out of all sports LeBron James had the biggest hype and even though you know personally I kind of feel like LeBron James kind of underperformed he was supposed to have more but he exceeded expectations and I feel like not everybody can handle that I mean we’ve seen players before LeBron and after LeBron they put all this hype on somebody and then when they’re not performing to what they expect them to then they start to criticize um I feel like it’s not fair you know this soon it’s her rookie year you know she’s playing against you know females that’s been at that high level and to be honest those WNBA players they play tougher than these NBA players you know why because they’re not getting paid two $300 million correct they’re not getting paid all this money see these dude the the NBA players they got they get the best everything the best flights massages anytime they want to NBA players bag the baddest women out of any out of rappers any other athlete players bag I gotta get of women yeah but I gotta get a WNBA credit for bagging a ton of women too well they be they be bagging them too they be backing each other but go ahead but you get what I’m saying I’m just saying they got they got the best of everything yeah so they don’t have to work and and play as hard as them W now them WNBA players some of them doing only fans just that to keep the money flowing they ain’t getting to pay a whole bunch of money no disrespect are you subscribed to anybody’s only fans that’s in the WNBA no no I can’t I can’t get down with that I ain’t about spending no money to watch no no videos now I pay to get something now but no no seriously though man those W man them women in there man they they hungry man so anytime they see Caitlyn Clark on the schedule oh yeah they gonna play hard they they not playing because everybody’s coming to see Caitlyn CL yeah yeah and they know that so of course they gonna maximize the opportunity I’m about to talk trash yeah I’m about to lock her up on defense y I’m about to cross her and and try to score on her I’m about to I’m about to make her look bad for me y I just hate the media oh go ahead no I’m just to piggy back of what you just said let me ask you this if you was playing in high school and you ain’t got no recruitment letters yet you know you good um and you look on the schedule and it’s a guy that go to your rival School who’s been recruited by everybody and he’s already committed to North Carolina right he’s going to he going to Tar Hill Nation he’s already committed but it’s going to be six Scouts there just anyway just just in case they can you know they want to scout him just in case they can actually steal him right and you know these six Scouts going to be there and you got to guard this dude in this game what is going through your mind I’m about to kill him is that jealousy it’s hunger a jealous exactly and exactly what you just exp being competitive exactly it’s being competitive this guy he’s the next big thing okay I’m about to prove that I’m that guy too and this the best opportunity is to do it when everybody’s here I’m about to cook them correct correct and I just hate the media is crying oh y’all need to leave her alone y’all bullying her just let her go off let her go off why would they let her go off yep no we competing them them women hungry they trying to to stay in the league and not only stay in the league they trying to get some money yep so they not gonna take it easy on Caitlyn Clark I ain’t gonna hold you up because I know you’re trying take another call man but I mean Caitlyn Clark gonna have a rough one man yeah she better get better she better get better and she and she better change her her mindset nobody’s coming to save you the media can’t save you these girls are not letting up and they’re going to have uh people like Monica mcnut uh uh chenel gum uh Carrie Champion these people are going to keep going into the media and every time some guy tells them that what they need to do they’re going to push back and tell them no this is how we play we’ve played in the WNBA this is what we do this is what we want to continue to do we’re not letting up just because y’all want us to uh let up so y’all can see the alternate ending y’all want to see we’re not doing it and I and I appreciate them for doing it man thanks for the call Bro oh one more thing hold up yeah I don’t want you to answer I’mma just leave you with this all right if if I’m the commissioner of the WNBA and I know Caitlyn Clark is my ticket to success because if Caitlyn Clark does not succeed there is a possibility in five to 10 years the WNBA won’t exist I’mma have a meeting with the referees I’m sending emails out to every coach I’m telling the referees hey every time somebody touch Caitlyn Clark F every time somebody talk in trash to Caitlyn Clark Tex I’m telling all the coaches you better tell them women that to keep their hands off Caitlyn Clark and I’mma leave it at that all right man I appreciate yeah that sound like something that they would do in the NBA and I think that’s what people want to see uh that’s fans of Caitlyn I think uh people that uh are just genuinely fans of basketball don’t want to see that right they want to see it called across the board uh the same way regardless of the name on the back of your jersey uh and and let the best woman win let the best team win that is that is going to be more pleasing to the eye to see something like that versus to see someone one use the whistle to help us get uh the entertainment that we want right uh I don’t think that’s a good business model last call from North Carolina what’s up what’s up man I’m good um how I feel about the Caitlyn Clark situation is I think it’s hard for her right now like the hype she got a lot of hype she got a lot of things on the shoulders but like like how we comparing it to LeBron LeBron actually had other superstars that the that they would talk about you know what I’m saying they had KOB tmac Shaq dwade Melo they had a whole bunch of people I think the problem with the media is they not talking about no other player correct and they don’t and they didn’t build up no other players sorry about that but yeah like they didn’t build up no other player like it would be easier for Clayton Clark if they’ve been building up all they star players of their league but since they haven’t did it the only time you hear about the WNBA is when something happened to Caitlyn Clark you don’t hear about nothing else you know they cut to whatever else they don’t say blah blah blah had 296 and six last night or whoever they’re not trying to build nobody up so I think that makes it even harder for Caitlyn Clark because every time she turn on the TV too she always hear something about her correct I wish I wish you you remember the speech that um Paige buers gave when she got awarded at the espies last year or year before last I don’t remember you gotta look that speech up she said basically the same thing you just said uh when it comes to uh women Athletics and and and women’s basketball you know as a as a white woman she up there and accepted her award and she said I don’t want to talk about me while I’m up here I want to um you know um I want to talk about some of these women of color that has been leading our sport for so long and like she brought some people to tears uh by by just saying it you know I mean so I think everybody should go look that up and listen to what she said I wish I would have remembered that you just reminded me of it I wish I could have remembered it I would have had that sound bite ready for y’all to hear but I thought it was a real inspirational what she said man and that’s why she’s not chosen by the same demographical people that chose Caitlyn to be their representative but man thanks for the call right yeah no problem man y all right well we gon move on let me get some of these comments real quick though uh it was one of them I seen that said uh the referees need to get it right let me see if I can pull this one up uh prodical thanks for the comment he said the rest need to get the Cause right I don’t know if the cause are wrong uh I don’t see nothing wrong with the calls but uh they just playing physical basketball you’re not used to it because you’ve been watching the NBA and it’s possible you haven’t been watching any WNBA games at all it’s possible you just seen uh some highlights of what you what they’re showing you uh if that’s the case that’s unfortunate but uh that is a major issue and could determine outcome of the game the call was clearly a flagrant yet the WNBA had to uh rule it such the next day yeah they didn’t they didn’t see a hip check as a flagrant foul uh they got uh they got more information from the from the league uh the league office uh who who told them otherwise because it was the ball wasn’t even inbound and all that stuff so they called it a FL they upgraded it but if they would have called it a flagrant that game and the Scott lost that game Caitlyn Clark that was her second win of the season they so they won it it didn’t turn the outcome and that that that call was so early in the fourth quarter it it really didn’t much matter right so um getting the calls right just by looking at that one thing uh I yeah that’s a reach for me uh it’s definitely a reach for me let me see some of these comments uh many of them make 75k or less uh a each year okay uh kin made the same point um I’m trying to get the same girls the NBA players get into my bank account I would be mad also if I making 65k and uh Clark Nike deal alone is 25 I don’t think no you probably would be mad but you know for for you just TR to put that on them and you know uh and and and I don’t think nobody counting her pocketbooks anyway F first and foremost right uh that’s just like me saying all the players in the NBA that’s making uh I don’t know 350k a year is not even3 they probably making 600k at the least maybe 500k I don’t know uh uh mad at LeBron for making 50 a year like that’s so easy and lwh hanging fruit and cheap and lazy to say something like that and then connect it to what a hip check or great defense like if I play great defense on Caitlyn I’m jealous because she make more money than me the the only alternative the only thing y’all want to see is everyone just take their hands off Caitlyn hands off the merchandise Caitlyn do what you need to do to entertain everybody let’s play call them go try the basketball and then they won’t call me jealous but you know what they will call me out of the league I will be playing overseas if I if I can’t play well and compete and I can’t help my team win what good am I you’re G to be off the squad some of these girls like you said making 65k a year right contract only two two year uh contract they a it ain’t like you getting six-year contracts twoyear contracts I’m playing for my next contract Contra I need to play my best and for someone that plays defense and that’s what you signed me for why the hell I’m not not gonna play my best defense on Caitlyn Clark if my if my Scouting Report say I’m a great defender and a tough Defender and my coach say I’m gonna put you on Caitlin this game that’s my opportunity to make sure I go from great defender to best defend in the league that’s going to be more money for me everybody keep saying Caitlin is bringing eyes to the sport which means more money I can’t get that money if I don’t play and I have to play and if I’m playing against the Messiah and I show you she not the Messiah then yeah I’m gonna be getting some money I’m gonna be getting paid I just shut her down if I’m playing Michael Jordan I want to shut him down what nobody saying we just gonna let Michael Jordan do his thing come on man that don’t make sense there’s a lot of comments I’m gonna go to the next topic though go to the next topic lot of comments all right um Shannon milon say Sheldon W all right so let’s move on to mon comit nut First Take Stephen A Smith um the reason why I like this is because you get to see uh the females talk about their sport Monica mcnorth played college basketball I don’t know if she had a stin in WNBA um but Chen gum uh you’re going to hear her voice on this one as well and she definitely played in the WNBA I don’t know if she’s still on the roster I know her sister is but I haven’t seen her I’ve been looking for her but um uh she might be retired I’m not sure uh but they get they get a chance to speak and which is what I like because uh yeah we got men in this space and they invite women to their platform all right so you got first take you got Stephen A Smith who’s an executive producer he always brag about opening up uh lanes for people giving people jobs and inviting people like Monica mut on his show Michelle Chanel gum I’m giving them an opportunity right that’s great but that’s ESPN’s platform Stephen A’s show and he’s the executive producer so I can invite who I want that’s his platform invitation she’s a guest there what I think is uh is is possible for this emergence and this rise of the WNBA is women can have their own space imagine if they create a show similar to First Take but they cover a lot of WNBA and we let someone like Michelle I mean not not Michelle but Chanel gum or Monica mut be the Stephen A Smith of that show because I would much rather hear things about the WNBA from former WNBA players it’s and and maybe they can invite someone that’s a man to their platform to give it balance but we we shouldn’t be the ones leading the conversation for this because the girls of the WNBA has spoken and they’re telling you what they want their league to operate uh uh like what you see right now is politics in the WNBA every entity have their own local politics prison has prison politics someone’s going to come in they’re going to be the biggest baddest dude on the on the Block and he’s going to let L down a law in that prison of what’s going to how things are going to run yeah you got the warden and his deputies or or his cosos but within that prison the the the inmates themselves will form their own local government and have their own politics have their own rules and when you come in we’re gonna you know we’re gonna we’re gonna hey you’re GNA learn real quick how we operate you either GNA learn a hard way or you’re going to learn a smart way but you’re going to learn and if you want to rise up in rank you’re going to have to earn it no one’s going to give it to you you already hat heard the scene when I come in here on the first day I got to show them who I am and I’m going to go punch the biggest dude in the mouth to show you I’m not the one to be played with even if you lose right so you have to establish yourself right so we’re we’re we’re witnessing politics in the WNBA NBA got their own politics we allow them to uh do their own politics the way they do they they show Lavar ball and Lonzo ball listen you ain’t about to come in here and tell us your son better than all of us and he can he can do this and he better than Steph Curry we gonna show you that that was politics they sick Pat Beverly on him and a couple more players out him for about three four games he got the rookie treatment all rookies carry the bags and the suitcases it’s politics you go abide by them that’s always is going to be a locker room leader and then each team got their own politics so it’s nothing different we’re seeing politics go what what we seeing right now is the WNBA saying um this is how we operate this is what we run like if you’re going to choose her as our leader because we didn’t choose her and she didn’t come in and take it and earn it no one gave Michael Jordan leader of the NBA right away we had a leader it was burden and Magic no one came in and said Jordan you’re the leader before he Ste foot on the uh on the draft carpet no one said that he didn’t he wasn’t even the number one pick elijan was or was it Sam bu it was one of them Sam buy elijan then Michael Jordan so no Michael Jordan wasn’t given that he came in and earned it and took it and then he took his lumps as well planning that physical uh basketball he took his lumps so he earned it right so if you’re going to tell the WNBA players is this is your leader because we chose her because of what she did in college okay well if we don’t have a choice in the matter well at least let us get her ready because if you’re going to lead us and I’m GNA follow you you’re gonna have to earn it I’m not going to follow somebody that didn’t earn it you got to earn it so yeah go through this uh ringer you get through this we’ll follow you but only after you prove you deserve it only after you earn only after you get through this because this is how we play in the WNBA we’re not changing it right so that’s my thought on that uh on the uh WNBA politics but let’s listen to how they had this conversation Monica mcdu Stephen A Smith it was a good combo y all agree that this place was unacceptable but in general this is still competition that’s my biggest mistake you’re right guys that I look at other people Shannon my God Ahad Shannon ain’t gonna say it but I’m Shannon ain’t gonna say but I’m gonna say it the word is resentment and I’m talking about what I feel about this whole conversation nobody said all nobody painted the WNBA with a broad brush we’re talking about a girl that a young lady that has come into the sport and is contributing to the financial backbone of the WNBA and simply imploring everybody to see the big picture and how it serves to benefit the whole and because we brought that up it’s turned into a conversation with I resentment jealousy whatever I’m saying yo the resentment is legit but it’s also Justified if you’ve been in the league busting your tail to help uplift it and then somebody comes along and before they play 10 before they play one game you’re Des you’re labeling them the Savior a lot of people men a bunch of men would feel resentment towards that too but we bring it up here and all of a sudden we got to safeguard and couch every little syllable when we’re talking about competition and we’re talking about the league and we’re talking about revenue and money and how everybody wants to get paid the what’s the maximum salary in the NB in the WNBA Eminem isn’t that like 241,000 or something like that is 250 250 right two two 250,000 these girls are stars they could they they they doing they doing commercials now they gonna be making upon dollars on Madison Avenue and they deserve it we’re talking about them maximizing their great potential and because we bring that up and talk about what potentially might get in their way which we do to men all the time now we got to sit up here and watch every syllable I resent that and I’ll leave it at all right so let me so let me I know we gotta go to break I know we gotta go to break welcome to the world of being a woman Stephen A and how you have to dance about your word choice and you have to please everybody and anybody as you navigate your being we are talking about the world’s greatest being a black man being black so so this is what I’m saying to y’all though and I know we got to go to break and we didn’t necessarily go there maybe we should there are so many layers in this conversation around the way that it’s being discussed when you right no no no and yes Shannon I know y’all are gonna say you know and Stephen I know you’re gonna you just shared that you have talked about the WV in your program too you guys may not have said everybody but the prevailing sentiment for folks that are just joining the WBA and following women’s sports is unfair to the women of this league to your point who have laid the groundwork for Kaitlin Clark to come in and now take it to the next level that’s all I’m saying in these conversations Kennedy Carter’s behavior is not indicative of the entire league we are still talking about competition where you are allowed to get a little extra elbow in if you are competing and you do it within the parameters of the game the game is physical Caitlyn is helping to grow the league these women understand that but she cannot be babied as a rookie that’s all I’m at all right who talks about talk about the WNBA who talks about women who talk about women sports more more than more than first Stephen A respectfully with your platform you could have been doing this three years ago if you wanted to wow all right we gotta go you guys so so did you you’re my guy but who does more for than us I’m talking to you I’m talking to you don’t do that I’m talking to you about the power that you have okay I’m talking to you okay okay you’re my guy but I’m talking to you I got it guys guys guys I really appreciate my girl but youve missed a lot of episodes of first take you missed a lot Stephen three years ago you were not talking about the W at this level don’t do that nobody want Monica you making Stephen a point mon Monica me do my job please let me do my job we’ve gone for 40 minutes straight it was a riveting discussion I have to get into a commercial break man that was that was uh yeah that was fiery tring thing for me and hopefully that was fiery right so um this is what I liked about that right Monica mnet was up there um it was her and it was Stephen A and Shannon sharp if you listen to that whole thing which First Take has taken off of YouTube on their uh on their ESPN uh Channel I guess they don’t want that there for some reason so it’s gonna be hard to find the full clip um um but you might you might be able to find somebody because I think there’s a lot of channels on YouTube that record uh first take stuff and then they repost it like it’s theirs and uh some of that stuff get VI so you might be able to find it but um the whole the whole the whole way it went down is that was Shannon and and Stephen A Smith trying to prove to the world and to force Monica mcnet to admit that based on that hip check that happened between Caitlyn Clark and Kennedy Carter proves that the WNBA girls are jealous of Caitlyn Clark and then Stephen A Smith took it a step further to say that the reason they’re jealous is because she’s white and because she’s uh getting way more out of the WNBA and out of the you know um uh endorsements and stuff like that then she’s earned because she she she got all of it before she played a step or or before she stepped foot on the WNBA court right and Monica minan is trying to tell them no that’s no this is how they like Kennedy Carter plays like that against everyone and she’s fiery and she’s been in trouble for a lot of it for for someone to admit they don’t like a lot of people thought it was a joke they would show her picture on social media and say who is this girl I’ve never heard a name a day in my life uh the only reason why I know her name is because of Caitlin Clark so for you to admit you don’t even know who that is you can’t really have a dog in the fight when it when the conversation happened because if you knew her you would know she plays like that every night you would know that she’s got kicked off of teams for being fiery trying to fight people you would know that’s in her character so to connect that to jealousy is dumb it’s almost like if we know Draymond Green does things like that and then we one day see him like when he did it to LeBron James Jeremiah Green plays like that for you to say that the reason why he punched LeBron James between his legs is because he jealous of them is obvious that LeBron makes more than him it’s obviously that LeBron’s the face of the league just like everyone saying Caitlyn is so everything that is done to her does not mean jealousy I mean it’s so it’s so lame and so uh lazy to even just make that connection oh it’s automatically jealousy oh they fou her hard oh jealousy that don’t make no sense to me because what you’re asking them is either I’m going to be jealous or I’m not going to be able to touch her what are you asking for right and and the reason why I like that Monica Manet pushed back on all of that uh and the way she did it um is because it needed to be done it was necessary no it’s not jealousy no they they’re they’re just hooping that’s that’s how we hoop right and um and she’s also going to point out the fact that listen if you want to promote the league you got a lot of opportunity to promote it like you look at angel Reese’s following on uh Instagram and x and all that stuff this girl got millions of followers that mean there’s millions of people that want to see her play too there’s millions of people that want to see both her and Clark play but I guarantee you if people knew more about juel Lord and Audrey Wilson and Stewie and danana Bonner and uh k coer uh uh what Khia copper um you know all of these players man I’m pretty sure if they knew about them and they could see them play they would be excited about them too it’s good ballers in the WNBA it’s good basketball it’s good players a lot better than what we got in Caitlin Clark right now so we can’t change the whole league just so we can see Caitlin Clark Spin and like I said earlier if you do change it the players that are better than her are going to still outshot her because it’s going to be easier for them too so I mean I mean it’s just food for thought right so um when it got toward the end and Monica mut brought up the point that Stephen A Smith could have been following the and covering the WNBA three years ago when he first got executive producer rights to the show and Stephen A Smith was taken AB back by it uh I didn’t mind that she said that because what he was try I mean because she made a point and she tried he tried to come back with who talks about the WNBA first take like he wanted a cookie because he talk about the WNBA every now and then well you don’t get a cookie for because you could have done more and you could have done it a long time ago why are you here now and why are you here causing controversy like the fact that you haven’t been talking about them and you’re talking about them now but the what you decide to talk about is controversy and stirring up controversy within the league you’re messy and if you really wanted to talk about WBA be honest about it she played a game on what was it Friday when she got hip checked and then she had a back toback and played against Saturday against the liberty and only had three points so her last game was the worst game of of NBA career she lost by 37 points she only had three points missed everything she threw up as a matter of fact I think she hit her first shot everything after that was bricks so that’s the last game she had and then another day goes by and then Monday morning pops up and First Take was like Hey man ignore that game for three points let’s go back to the game before that which is cool because I’m doing it too you know it’s cool but then don’t come back and brag like who talks about WB more than I do and expect her to Dag on sugarcoat the answer and not be honest and she was like look Stephen you could have been talked about them don’t brag like you talking about them now don’t brag about it now three years ago you could have been talking about them we could have been getting attention on that and he was just like Oh I’m a Paul right I’m aul and then he goes on his podcast and try to make it seem like look man I I I invite females on my show what is she talking about yeah she’s talking about you not talking about the WNBA not not that you don’t support women you you didn’t talk about the WNBA it’s totally different from you not supporting women women right so I mean the fact that he tried to make a point like that is crazy but it didn’t stop there AUM I love what she had to say as well frating thing for me and hopefully I don’t freeze up this time is that if you also know each and every player of the WNBA the idea that women have to be mindful of how they compete and also the idea that the WNBA is a monolith is a you know kind of a dangerous thought because the WNBA is a Melting Pot of women who compete differently and I do think when you have an incident that happens with Caitlyn Clark that becomes magnified I played with Kennedy Carter for the Los Angeles Sparks and the way she competed against Caitlyn is the way that she has competed against everyone she has gone up against and at times it has worked to her detriment we are so caught up dissecting the growth of w the women’s game that we are missing out on the goodies I keep telling people why can’t all growth all ways that women compete be good for the game yes there was an out of- bounds play and I say that that is not indicative of how everyone plays in The W but unfortunately when we talk about Caitlyn Clark who rightfully has brought the Lion Share of what we are seeing right now that notion that Caitlyn is constantly acknowledged it’s true she has brought so much good and growth and we want to protect that but not at the expense of people competing and I think the people that compete sometimes get erased because of moments like this the sentiments of growth that people talk about and I’ll just finish W wrapping really quick right here the sentiments of growth in acknowledging Caitlyn’s impact are not Amplified by the media it’s the outliers the controversial 1% that is Amplified over and over again and I think that’s where have to do better and that’s why Monica and I and so many others exist to sort of help Usher in that reality a lot of the new fans who are excited about the game and that we are welcoming to the game only want to hear the praise of one player because that is the only thing that brought them here and that’s perfectly fine but it should not come at the complete eraser of how everyone in the league competes even in its worst moments and unfortunately the moment happened that a lot of people attract this entire narrative to a league and I hope they don’t they choose not to make that continually happen in the moving forward that that’s a good point she said you know uh we we got to appreciate what Caitlin C has done uh to bring uh new eyes to the league and and the new demographic and all that stuff but those those people that follow her from college to the pros they came here to see her and that’s perfectly fine however as a media base you got to be a little bit more responsible because if you if you really want the the league to grow because right now what we fell in love with Caitlyn for in college she can’t produce right now so it’ll be smarter for the WNBA to market the girls who can produce the Caitlyn Clark fans they gonna go to her games regardless because they love Caitlyn Clark but if some of these kids that never seen some of these other great players play actually see them being marketed then you probably could pull that a new demographic in as well for for for those players and if you do that and you use all the tool you got in your tool box and not just one I mean if you’re trying to do a real good job on something and you trying to fix something because the WNBA is broken if you’re trying to fix it and I give you a toolbox with every sharp tool that you can think of don’t just grab the screwdriver and try to hammer something down and then also try to use it as a wrench use it as a screwdriver so whatever targeted audience that you want with Caitlyn use Caitlyn for that target audience but there a whole another demographic that you’re probably not getting because you’re marketing someone that’s more diverse or not more diverse but different from Caitlyn Clark in a lot of different ways maybe a big a big girl that plays in the post it might be some six foot four girl out there six foot five girl out there who needs someone to watch the model her game out of right it might be someone from a different background or upgr who who needs someone to look like her so she can say ah I can see someone like me like it took Obama to uh run for president before you could see black kids saying heang that’s actually possible I could be the president of of of of the of the Free World that’s possible we have to see ourselves in someone to help us believe not everybody but some people but if you’re really interested in growing this league you got to grab every demographic that’s available to you and you have a very diverse and Melting Pot like uh basketball culture and and and and League utilize it utilize it just because it’s one person springboarded everything doesn’t mean you go to the well on it because obviously she can’t carry the league right now she’s not ready to carry the league she’s not good enough to produce the way her fans want to see her produce and they’re crying about it they’re mad about it they’re lashing out at everyone who’s playing defense on her everyone who fouls her hard they’re lashing out at them and they don’t know enough about the leag to know that that’s normal that’s been going on in the league for 20 plus years it’s not jealousy it’s not any of those things you think it is it’s just basketball I’mma open the phone lines up let’s hear your thoughts on it uh I think my let’s hear y’all thoughts on it um as a matter of fact let’s go ahead and um play uh Kennedy Carter because you know she didn’t answer Katlin cart questions uh in the post game but a day later here she is asking him uh uh questions uh before her game tonight at the end of the day I’m a competitor now that it’s another day I’ve had an off day now I can answer your questions and I can let you know how I really feel about things but I’m a competitor and I’m going to compete no matter who you are and no matter who’s in front of me so that’s just what it was he in the moment play we’re getting at it we’re going back and forth It’s basketball it’s all Hoops after we finish the game it’s all love do you have any regrets on how it happened and everything that’s happened since then um I don’t have any regrets with anything I’m going to compete and play 100% hard no matter who it is like I said or who we’re playing no no I don’t have any regrets did you realize this was going to become a big National story um it it has became a big National story we’ve had things that have been thrown into Hoops like racism and just different things thrown to players that shouldn’t even been brought up this is a game I love this is a game I’m passionate about and at the end of the day I’m thankful that I’m able to display it to everybody and if you if you’re going to watch the game watch all of the game before you make opinions just watch the whole game and get to know the players those that saying you don’t know players you haven’t watched the WNBA get to know your players that are already here and already in this league and already trying to make a mark all right caller from Missouri what’s your thoughts yeah what’s going on man this is T Callin back what’s up brother hey man uh I I just wanted to uh give you kudos for bring uh bringing this up and uh kind of in my basketball group you know I was kind of in the middle because I’m listening to all you know the media and I’m seeing members in my group talk you know all talking about how the are jealous and envious and and then I said okay well let me start watching man and I start watching and I start seeing and I’m looking like wait a minute hold up they’re being aggressive in playing defense well I watch women basketball they play defense they actually play defense they actually play the game of basketball and so that’s when we start then I start videotaping and putting it on put it on there and saying can somebody explain why they shouldn’t be bodying her up and not letting her get to ball they should be Bing her up correct and and and just all you know to wrap it up I just determine now man it’s the media trying to leverage her and make money that’s what they’re trying to do and what’s happening is those other players are getting in the way of their marketing dollars and I’m not talking about the consumer I’m talking about the corporate correct and that’s what I think is going on and they trying to make them them them ladies you know bow down and they should not they should go and play the game do do you think those corporate suits you know because you know at the top they all rub elbows and talk and you know because you know they all in bed together right do you think that those corporate suits are talking to platforms like ESPN and saying hey we need your your voices on your platform to go out out and speak against all of this physical play against citn Clark because we can’t continue to Market and sell her merch if she’s not performing and do do you think they’re using the media to put pressure on the WNBA to make changes yes I think they’ve already metad so that’s why you see it already so we all know how the NBA makes some of his money it makes this money how by getting money from the ESPN you know and then ESPN pay them so if so what’s going to happen is you gonna get you GNA have the corporate Corporation you gonna have ESPN and then you gonna have and they are they have to partner together and they need somebody and that’s and and and I don’t want to get off the subject but it’s the same thing as LeBron James once they found LeBron James that was it for Co and that’s what they trying to do again but them ladies are not allowing it so they’ve already met they already got planned yeah and remember this last part everything’s about advertising now they want they they feel they can advertise uh advertise her but they can’t advertise Angela ree the way you know from a corporate level correct so Angela ree is gonna get hers you know from like the local so she gonna get her deal but it’s gonna be kind of the minority in a way that’s what she’s going to be able to sell to you know like the Taco Bell and all that she got that but we talking about globally or us wide you you already know who they are correct so last thing before you go um do you think uh as far as marketability uh it might be true that Caitlyn cart might be the most marketable player right it it that might be true but as far as production on the court do you think she’s worthy of being heavily marketed and and coined as the face of the league because most of the guys in the NBA who has been the face of the league actually had the game to match do you think that this is a do you think this is gonna fall apart for who’s trying to Market her and do you think they gonna get their money back because right now if if she can’t break through this and get through this and actually start balling it’s going to be bad for them I’m G I’m gonna tell you this and and I’m just gonna be honest because I’ve been processing I looked at her man do I think she’s gonna go in the weight room no do I think the only thing she got on her side is she got her father is she GNA listen to her father and tell CU she got to go to the waight room bro she needs about at least 15 pounds at least at least 15 pounds and so I think that she got about another year and and and if she can’t do it I don’t Pro unless they change some rules but they but the thing with the league the league in the NBA change start changing rules in 99 toward to be a fluid office they start changing the rofes they started and you know the impact ain’t to another decade yeah that save and you know who that truly helped that truly helped helped uh uh three-point shoot curry curry it help it helped Nash as well because you know guards like Nash was coming in like Bobby Hurley and they couldn’t last two years that is correct so Curry truly got the full benefit of it and but unless the WNBA change some rules I’ll make sure I keep calling back all right man I appreciate it oh hey I just want to say this she’s in trouble you you might be right we about to see what happen when she play Don and terazzi because I know Don and terazzi want a piece of her yes sir hey have a good day man and and hey man I just want to salute you give you Kudos you keep making it happen man keep making it happen thanks bro man thanks for the support man I appreciate it all right bro yeah somebody said ain’t nobody K saying ain’t no woman putting no 15 lbs uh uh I mean she get pregnant that’s I mean that’s about that’s really 15 PBS and she might keep it you know what I mean so uh we don’t know all right let’s finish this interview uh Kennedy Carter did you the Tipp that was going on before because because that was there um do you have any was there a moment before that no no no I I think I got hit in the in the head to play before and it was just like one of those things that was In the Heat of the Moment you know I don’t know kayin I don’t know her from anywhere you know what I’m saying but at the end of the day this is Hoops it’s competitive and this is basketball and you’re playing against somebody like me I could I classify myself as a dog so if you’re going to throw a punch then I’m going to I’m going to compete with you I’m going to play at the level that you’re you’re you’re given so that’s just a player that I am hey and and the phone number is here man 33645 66453 I see some uh people that disagree with me in the comments Michael uh kilg or is it chis uh Michael chis man yeah call in man I would love to hear your your perspective on it man and uh and see if you can share that with the audience um you know so uh call in you’re more than welcome to for sure but when you say get to know the player what are you referring to um I mean I’m just seeing a lot of things of players not of fans just not understanding who I am as a player you have to understand me as a person too and don’t just look at one tape and form an opinion about me I’m a I’m truly a passionate person about the game and I’m genuine you can ask all my teammates they’ve got to know me they know the real Kennedy Carter so I’m just saying don’t form an opinion off of one little clip and you didn’t even see the whole game and or the play that led to them you got to also you got to realize all of us have a story and Kennedy has been out of the league I’ve had a story behind me people are going to have their misconceptions about each and one of us on this team and that’s what makes it so special bringing each other together I think I I wear that on my shoulders Kennedy wears that on her shoulders because everybody doesn’t get this opportunity so when we go out there and play super hard compete every single day it’s not personal I promise you it’s based off where our stories and what we’ve come from we’ve come from so many different places that you guys have never seen or would never understand so just being able to go out there and play with that chip on our shoulder every single night that’s just what we do and that’s just who we are and you have to accept that conversation she up had a conversation is there an understanding about you know maybe there was a line that that was cross in terms of there’s no lying I’m competing I’m going to compete I’ve already let you know I’m going to compete if you’re going to throw punches first I’m going to compete it’s all love it’s basketball this happens in the NBA actually I’m focused on New York now I’m not really focused on that play anymore it happened okay it’s it’s just a basketball it just happened like it’s over with I don’t know why we’re dragging it but we continue to drag a play that happened in a whole ker from Michigan go ahead yeah it’s Michael man it’s just jealousy man they don’t like that one uh uh name name the person that’s jealous I think the whole league jeal out you don’t want get red up the the whole entire league I think so did you so how many games have you watched this season H how many games have you watched this season watch five of them I ain’t gonna lie five of them uh did you see anybody else getting roughed up no just her so you didn’t see when Angel Reese got choke slammed while she was in the air by uh no on her team on her team only one get roughed up did you did you did you see the statement made by her head coach when and she put out okay uh there’s a rookie last year that was a number one draft pick that came out of South Carolina uh aah Boston are you are you familiar with aiah Boston Boston aiyah Boston ah all right so she’s the she’s the center that plays for uh the Indiana Fe fever with Caitlyn Clark she was a rookie last year number one draft pick out of South Carolina her head coach one graft Pi was she yes she was her head coach has a statement saying this is the exact same treatment that they was giving Boston last season and it needs to stop so she’s saying that Boston got this exact same treatment last year as a number one draft pick planned for the Indiana Fever and the best player on the team and she made Allstar as well last year she saying Boston got the exact treatment last year are you aware of that nope I just found out now all right so and that’s and that’s why you come to shows like this man because we got the facts I appreciate the call man yeah yep yeah so yeah she’s not the only one even on her team getting fouled like this uh she’s the only rookie right now and she’s getting most of the attention now but Boston was getting it last year right so um fourth quarter happened after that multiple events happened after that guys so we just got to let that play go like but the the fact that the league waited a day to upgrade to a playp that extended the time of this play Chris what’s going on brother what’s your thoughts oh I’m sorry man go ahead go ahead what happened yeah I I I can hear you now go ahead oh I just want to say real quick man the league ain’t jealous man they angry they angry because for 25 27 something years they’ve been playing this level of basketball and they only getting to sign now because of this one girl right and we’re not saying that kayin c CL came right we all saw what she did what she did in college but these women have been hooping like that for 25 plus some OD years yeah it shouldn’t have took this one girl to get that sign right yeah and they they they mad because they playing defense like there’s no there’s no buddy buddy in this game like your buddies is on your team that’s it you out there to go to war get a win by any means right yeah gets chippy yeah it happens to be like that sometimes but nobody’s talking about when agel re and it was actually two plays that uh uh what’s her name Alyssa Thomas roughed up uh in a minute two plays in 60 Seconds that Alysa Thomas roughed up angel ree right nobody’s talking about that right nobody’s talking nobody’s talking about that but everybody sees the the the the shoulder check on the inbound play to Kaylin Clark right and let’s not act like Kaylin Clark don’t be selling some of these plays too like she sold the hit against the fan in college yeah she she she’ll sell it and she dish it out as well you know so that’s the thing about these girls man they they they like man we know the real man like Caitlin cart feisty you know what I mean but y’all y’all baby in her and she don’t need it she gonna be fine they can’t they can’t be mad like listen she was the number one pick for a reason like she got drafted by this team for a reason because they suck them drafting her waiting gonna be the the end all be off to them making it or run to the WNBA finals they suck they’ve had the number one pick for the last two years and he probably gonna get it again so all that you know game is supposed to translate not NE in the game that she had in college her flaws were hitting very well by the fact that she was going against a lot of subpar opponents and defenses but now you playing against Elite athletes and women at your level of sport and you can’t hide them flaws that easily now everybody got tape on you everybody knows what to do push you right because you can’t you can’t shoot and drive to your right you only like shooting to your left you lack on defense and you you have a lot of turnover issues yeah but this is stuff we already knew in college but because she could put up a 40 piece by shooting from the logo it was okay it was cool it’s like it’s like Luca Luca can put up outstanding numbers but y’all forget that he has glaring holes in his free throws and his defense yeah so I guess I guess I guess the media conditioning is is bleeding over into the WNBA because Andrew Reese just got ejected from the game and they said it was for no reason I can’t I can’t wait to watch that play back like uh probably not like everybody but I got the WNBA league pass it’s only $34 for the entire season so uh uh go ahead and donate that money uh you know because it it’ll helped him out but I’m gonna go watch the playback of the game as soon as I finish with this recording right so um I want to see playing the Liberty right comments that it was it was already getting trippy yeah yeah they playing a team that beat uh the Indiana F by 37 and held so we’ll see how they real quick before before I go and let you go on I don’t know if you saw in the comments but I said that ESPN already deleted that Monica mut episode off of YouTube yeah they did yeah it was fast it was real quick you rule number one man you don’t embarrass Stephen A Smith on live television no matter how right you are they spent it today though they spent it you you know I I I seen the clip of what they was talking about when they was when they when they was saying oh man it’s it you know they pretty much saying it’s all a show you know what I mean so oh man they so glossy and fake man yeah man it is what it is but all right man go ahead and finish this show brother all right thanks man all right so I’mma end this uh this topic of Caitlyn Clark in the WNBA I’ll play for you one last thing for uh uh Chanel gum uh and then I move on to the last topic which is LeBron James is my state of the union WNBA Edition I let’s start with the play for those who may be new to this the WBA has always been a physical League full of competitive fire and trash talk and on the full sequence of that play Caitlyn was talking and in this league no one backs down to trash talk now I have played with Kennedy Carter and her choice to retaliate on a non-basketball play was literally foul and something that she has struggled with her entire career that was not okay but one player’s approach is not indicative of an entire league all rookies especially number one pcks I know what it’s like have been tested mentally physically emotionally from Candace Parker to Sabrina yancu to Kelsey Plum to Skyler diin Smith and a few days ago Alissa Thomas was just ejected for a hard play on Angel ree plays like this happen in sports but now it’s being used to further agendas that don’t serve the game so when it comes to women’s athletes there’s this expectation that players in the heat of the game should constantly stop what they’re doing and be appreciative of K they should bow down instead of being the competitors that they are these women are Elite basketball players who are competitors who show up and show every night before the eyes were there on the game we all know and we appreciate the unparalleled amount of growth and attention that Caitlyn I’m her biggest fan is driving to help become the beacon of so much interest and engagement and viewership to this game but that narrative that actually does a diservice to her because the ones who grind through that type of grind become beasts this is not not hate this is Hoops like any other sport that is profession professional at the highest level and I hope people truly get to understand that it’s not hate it’s hoops and I couldn’t I couldn’t have said that better myself man I I I enjoyed the way she uh broke that down and I hope everybody start to see it that way man uh Caitlyn will be fine Caitlyn will figure out how to play through that physicality this is what the league is uh every player comes in and just like Don terasi said before the season started reality is coming there’s always going to be a learning curve especially for rookies when you come to League you got to you got to learn how we do these things you got to learn WNBA politics and you got to learn how to deal with that physicality and once you figure that out and you are what everybody is saying you are you will be that but if you can’t get through this then you’re not what everyone is saying you are right and that’s my thoughts on that uh let’s move on to LeBron James so LeBron James was on his podcast uh uh with J reick mind the game and he said something interesting about Kyrie Irving that I wanted to uh kind of you know just play for y’all and speak on it because what he said was really I mean I I don’t think I’ve ever heard him say something like this about Kyrie Irving ever since he left Cleveland right so um it was really good to hear him say this but um I seen something else in his whole statement and I and I I’ll tell you what I seen so with Kyrie what is your favorite thing about Kyrie the basketball player I listen I will call Kyrie the wizard all the time like all the time like there was nothing on the basketball floor that Kyrie couldn’t do and sitting here watching it you know I’m like I’m playing like so [ __ ] happy and so proud and to watch him and continue his growth or whatever the case may be and at the same time I’m so [ __ ] mad at the same time that I am not his running mate anymore so I’m like I just remember those times and to back to what you were saying JJ like he to have a guy like Kyrie irvan as the ultimate wild card that’s like having a that’s like having a draw four in your hand every time someone deals you cars in Uno like every single time because he has the ability to like you said I saw in game one West Conference Finals game one you know I think up until that point I don’t know the the the stat because I’m not writing down the stats and I don’t call the games like you guys but I think Kyrie was only averaging like eight points in the first half like in the second round of the playoffs you know he was he was getting it 16 to 20 in the in the in in the second half but in the first half of games you know he was like it was like 68 yeah I don’t know the EXA number was 6 you and and you’re like okay you know you know you’re gonna have Kyrie in fourth but but I need you sometimes in the first half too brother but like what he did in game one it was like the Western confence finers you was like and that was like oh [ __ ] Dallas may be able to not only win the Western Conference Finals they might be able to win the whole thing because of that wild card I don’t I don’t I have so many words to praise Kyrie that I end up with absolutely none because it’s just it’s so he’s the most gifted player the NBA has ever seen he has the best gifts I’ve ever seen of any NBA player I’ve never seen a guy in my NBA life that feels better at times shooting with his off hand than he does with his with his primary hand if Kyrie’s off in a game with his right hand he will literally go exclusively to his left hand I’ve never seen nothing like that the shot one thing I’m think the shot that he made versus Denver towards the regular end of the regular season on on Joker yeah is one of the most ridiculous shots I’ve ever seen in my life yeah he’s just that special I I said so he said a lot of things in there one of the things he said is that Kyrie Irving is the most gifted basketball player that has ever played in the NBA he said that he also said that even when he watches him play it brings him Joy it makes him smile but at the same time he gets so mad because he’s not his running mate anymore uh which is interesting because uh this is a a a point that Kyrie Irving had already got to years ago um I think maybe last year year before last maybe when he was in Brooklyn and I think I did a video on this and was kind of strategic but I think it was also true at the same time I think he was getting so much Flack from the media and he understood that the media was coming at him so much because of their love for LeBron James and they felt like Kyrie Irving did something to LeBron that you know you know pissed him off and pissed his fans and his media off and that’s by leaving Cleveland you know uh and and he took a couple of shots at him not not purposely I when he joined up with Kevin Durant and he said that uh you know playing with Kevin Durant you know this is the first time I got a guy that I’m playing with they can hit that shot like I can right that game wining shot like I can everybody was like man what do you mean you play with LeBron he’s in the goat debate blah blah blah you know but what he was saying is it been a pure score basically what LeBron is saying about Kyrie Irving right now is what Kyrie was saying then about Kevin Durant right another pure score like you know as great as I am as a basketball player the way I shoot the way I score Kyrie Irving got that to his game and he got a bag and he got wiggle right you know I heard somebody say he dribble incursive right you know Kyrie is just that dude and he’s saying dang I finally get to play with Kevin Durant he’s he’s he’s Cut From the Same Cloth it wasn’t a slight at LeBron but it’s obvious that LeBron ain’t a score like Kevin Durant or Kyrie now he can put up the same amount of points by getting to the but for me to say that Elijah Juan and Shaquille O’Neal is the same type of score is not is not accurate they might can both put up 30 but the way sha go put up 30 is by dunking you into the rim and elijahwan can do it in every way possible on the basketball court that’s what Kyrie and KD is and LeBron is a guy I’m gonna take you to the hole I’m gonna dunk you in the rim you can’t stop it every now and then I’m going hit a jump shot every now and then I’m going hit a three-pointer but that think what his game is he would rather pass for that final shot and that’s why Kyrie Irving was so important to LeBron so when LeBron said that uh he’s the most gifted player and he praised the way he scored and he said man I’m mad that I’m not his running mate anymore because he sees how easily he just came over there and made Luca go from getting clapped in the uh playoffs to making it all way to the finals beating the number one Squad in the league in OKC and then beating uh um uh Minnesota who had the number one defense in the league when they see how easy it is for Kyrie to score and it be someone’s running mate like that LeBron is like sh if I had him in La I could chill and somebody I could do all this stuff that Luca is doing I could facilitate I could still get my points but guess what I got the luxury of doing in the fourth quarter I got a guy who can take over like Kobe the luxury of being the guy who get all the credit as the number one and then when it’s crunch time if you ain’t got it this guy nine times out of 10 is gonna have it he’s that good like he is on so much I can rely on him like a Kobe or Michael Jordan the luxury of being the best player on the team and you can pick and choose whether you want to do it or you can give it to like if I’m hot and I’m missing I’m making shots and I feel I I feel like hot then maybe I I take the shot but if more more than likely since that ain’t really my game I’m not going to be like that I got the luxury of saying hey hey young fell this your time Kyrie Irving is the dog that’s on the leash that got a lot of chain but you holding it back and holding it back because he he can take over anytime he want to but you want to hold him back and hold him back but then you can also say okay now it now now go do your thing and he can go do it almost every single time every time luuka has called on Kyrie in the fourth quarter or in the clutch Kyrie has showed up he’s hitting game winner after game winner left-handed gamewinners hitting uh big buckets I mean everything that you needed from a a sidekick man this dude is is amazing man imagine having Kobe as a sidekick that’s what Shaq had I ain’t got to shoot the free throws I this young fell can take over in the fourth imagine imagine how Shaq felt having having Co that’s what LeBron is describing he’s describing I got Kobe on my side I can be sh and dominate the paint but I could also let this young fell take over and he’s gonna do it almost every single time man so that’s why I thought was interesting about him even saying that um you know uh but kudos to uh Lebron and his podcast and it look like JJ R go get that job but um um I thought it was a fascinating piece of uh footage for him to say man it’s it’s probably go viral people are probably already talking about it but um I thought it was dope so this is the final topic I open the phone lines up I want to hear what y’all think about LeBron saying that about Kyrie if you think it’s true uh what else did you catch in that in that in that clip that he was saying that you know you thought was interesting you know um so I open the phone lines up right before I end the show I gotta go catch this uh this game Brandon Stewart dropped 33 tonight sheesh I gotta see how uh Angel re got um got ejected I want to see that but if we’re not going to get in phone calls uh we can go ahead and end the show man uh any I mean all topics are open you know hit hit the hit the phone line and and um whatever case let me see what these comments saying whether you like them or not imagine if the Lakers had LeBron ad and Kyrie would be crazy you’re right of course it would but Kyrie can whoop LeBron Kyrie is in his prime imagine if Shaquille had the 81 point Kobe he did had a 81 point Kobe Kobe was that good man he Kobe was 81 point Kobe when when Shaq was there they just had him on that leash they just had him on the leash man but he took over when it was time to take [Music] over he took over when he needed to man leflop wants to be Tom Brady NBA and play uh play at 40 I think he already 40 LeBron overrated ESPN uh showing Kyrie fake love Yeah they ain’t got no choice but he earned it they want to keep trashing them this has uh been the script for the bonds podcast the entire time use suell to raise uh Ai and step uh raise Ai and Steph has the most influential to disrespect joy and now Kyrie is the most gifted to this Jordan h i mean I so when when people make statements like the most or the best and all that stuff uh you know when they talking about players like that it’s it’s just their way of of of putting emphasis on it and I wouldn’t say he’s trying to slight Jordan you know he is putting emphasis on on who he’s trying to Big up at the time because at the end of the day in in your mind you kind of automatically take Jordan out when you having conversations because you already know he’s the goat and he’s probably the best player we ever seen so it’s like why keep talking about that you know we already know that that’s a giv right so um um so when when when he said when he says that exclude Michael Jordan because I think he excluded him in his head caller from California yo yo it’s Mo what’s up brother yo uh so I seen today just today chy C it was like viral on Twitter I don’t know I ain’t trying to get too spicy but yeah so she she had like a chennedy Carter fan account tweeting that black men are the weakest links I guess responding to all the Caitlyn Clark they think they think black men’s protecting them and then so she she retweeted that on her personal face and so and so somebody retweeted saying like how’s a WNBA player allowed to do this so I just thought that was interesting I’m like you about to push a lot of your fans out the league if you doing this funny buiness that’s all yeah yeah I I I wouldn’t even care about that like like like I’m I’m unmoved by that she she re some somebody posted black man in the weakest link and she reposted it I I could care less I I really could I could care less because at the the day guess what if she’s saying that to refer to what she was saying on ESPN she got a she got a good point I might not agree with her but she got a great point there was some jellyfish men on nah CU that’s her biggest base we nobody ride for the uh WNBA more than what we doing I I disagree oh man every everybody who has called this show don’t watch the games when the last game you watched me I I’m not going to watch it ain’t no women watching I know yeah but if you take and we know a lot of men who are basketball fans they want to Virtual signal to the women so they’ll do it though and go to the games it’ll be it’ll be it’ll be fathers bringing their daughters all racist it’s a lot of men they even talk about it the man ain’t showing up this it be dad to the game that’s it yeah but antidotal evidence everybody who has called my show don’t watch and y’all don’t mind by saying y’all don’t watch so who watching hey that’s a good question you said you said we the biggest supporter I’m trying to figure out how I I I I’m the only person I know that bought the uh the WNBA league pass and you were black man see thank you yeah but I’m I’m I’m supporting basketball not women the women are playing good basketball I guarantee there’s a lot more Brothers like you okay well find one other than me cause right cause right cause right now none of them watch watch this show I’m looking for him who who are the dudes that’s watching WNBA I I don’t know I ain’t seen a dude I don’t I never met a WBA fan person in my life but yeah yeah yeah but yeah I I I don’t care about it so I don’t think that’s her biggest fan base uh because I don’t think uh we knew too much about uh Kennedy Carter so I don’t think she had a fan base but for her for her that be frustrated with with how the men are uh you know you want to talk about virtue sickling the way the men was virtal siing for Caitlyn and her fan base that’s the only virtal sickling I seen but there was Men on both sides doing that you know I mean that’s that’s something else it’s just ultimately for her to reach me just that phrase I was all it was it just black men or the weakest L I don’t care I don’t care about that okay all right I guess we agree to disagree but great show I love this thanks bro okay all right Posh Kane call back man you can call back Posh King see V not me he ain’t got the league pass either he ain’t watching he hey uh put a one in the chat if you got league pass for the WNBA put it two if you don’t Posh King what’s up brother what’s going on man you know I had a jump in I was waiting on the LeBron joint good good show though man overall the Caitlyn Clark team though just real quick on that like you know they gonna do if she get a a two-piece like kby well come on man if they did all this for a hip check if if she get in the fight if she get in the fight somebody going going going back to Russia and they getting locked up and one thing they keep forgetting go ahead I’m sorry no yeah yeah if somebody punch Caitlin car oh hell go break loose especially oh man and one thing they keep forgetting just with wom in women say your money is her money and her money is her money they don’t care about what K CLK is bringing in they’re looking at their pockets and how long they’ve been in the game you feel me yeah so they’re goingon to they’re going to put out their all no matter what and like you already know man it’s going to be more sassy like and they’re going to come off with jealousy because they’re females now so what even Chanel was saying like just hoop and all of that like you can’t and talk about the game like it and you’re talking like you know I don’t want to use this word but you know from a misogynist standpoint or whatever may be the case when we see men out there you know so if we want to respect their game and let them do their thing like just let it play out because yall putting all your eggs in Caitlyn C’s basket like it’s either you’re going to get more eggs or Y just going to live with the consequences yeah you know these girls not going to play around with him yeah and and and and this suggesting that hey she’s bringing more money to your sport so just ride the wave and play the game and let her do her thing what happens I mean because she can’t save their roster spot so if I don’t if I if I don’t if I don’t ball out and do my best and she and and I let her get hers what what’s to say I I’m I’m not they just cut a first round pick this season yeah they cut a first round they they drafted first round pick I think she led the nation in scoring last year and then she got cut ain’t no guaranteed roster spot so I can’t I can’t come out here and and and and dog it for one game and dog it for one game because I’m playing Caitlyn that might be my last game that might be your last game are you gonna let Kaitlyn do that to you yeah and is is is Caitlyn gonna help them get back on the roster exactly so I could never Jordan was making thir in his last was making hello oh you might you might you might yeah go ahead I can hear you now yeah I’m saying Jordan was bringing money for Jordan and the league itself right K was still getting two million a year and nobody you can’t people like that yeah you know the girl saying whatever Caitlyn is going to bring to the league it’s for the league and Caitlyn you know and then maybe further on after this generation if the leag start get more sponsorship just like Charles Barkley said if he played now he would have been coming to the game the spaceship their league is still in developing most so it’s like the money is not there you have dudes that was look at Jordan bro what Jordan made as his maximum from playing you have dudes that like Draymond Green contract is bigger than with Jordan come on you know you have you have crazy contract in the league now cuz dudes wearing blouses to work now cuz they ain’t got they just getting money to do whatever with it so you know so on that part all of that I’m saying is just like it’s just the control that these leagues overall you know um American Sports is not open up to the world so so it’s one commission that have it and then if the commission not getting in and out like the president the control over it can be crazy you feel me because it’s not open up to like oh we can vote out the commissioner every four years or whatever their interest is their interest they don’t really care about the fans if you really think about it average fans can afford these NBA games right now man how much average fan can get the privilege to go see a finals um well WNBA WNBA you can get them tickets though WNBA cuz it’s still in that developing stage correct you feel me so overall these girls are she they um is like what they said when when when plumbers were playing I remember that John Sal thing with JJ R some of these girls just like what’s her name still had to go over Russia and got in trouble they still got to do more to earn money cuz the league just don’t got it so now you’re telling me to dumb down what I do just to get what I get for this girl that must be crazy yeah I just don’t over understanding let me cut you off right so while you was talking I’m I’m looking in the comment section right and and that was a guy by the name of Chris Green Confederate statue guy that that’s his that’s his username right and while I’m talking I see him type in a n and then he typed in a I and I as soon as I seen the I I already knew what he was doing and then I seen the G I said oh he about to try to spell the N word right so so before he even got to it he was going with the E he was going with the hard e r right the E came in and I I I was just waiting to see what it’s gonna do and this dude misspelled it and he put two e and didn’t even get to the R I just I just went on and deleted them and banned him and he he spel he was going to come in here and try to call me the n-word and misspelled it’s not too [Music] EAS he wanted the hard e eer Lord have mercy man yeah I just I went on and banned him and I’m Met look and I’m mad I’m mad at all my moderators in there I’m looking at Shay J with a ranch I’m looking at who else in here with a ranch Greg Anderson none of y’all caught this this dude was spelling the Rolland Curtis all y’all Greg and oh my God y’ none of y’all caught this I gotta get some new ranches in here man ranches ranches hey hey I need everybody that got a ranch is in the comment section I need an explanation on why y’all didn’t see that right now all right man let me go ahead and cud this phone line man I had two more calls they was trying to come inbr was gonna um speak on Kyrie to he just can’t resist it bro he just cannot he can’t canot but you calling him the wizard you are calling that man the kid well all right man I’mma finish watching the show man all right man appreciate the call I’m a good one bro Lord have mercy man I cannot believe y’all Bumble clot man y’all could not catch the this dude was about to call me I should have just let it go I should have just let it go man y’all didn’t see none of that here’s a private number let me this might be him caller from a private number what’s up what’s up it’s uh it’s brick from Philly man what’s up big dog what’s your thoughts listen man first I want to say man I appreciate your show man I’m like damn I’m glad got guys like you and you know what I mean that’s pushing pushing the right the right you know right things man right is right wrong is wrong feel me we respect you man we appreciate you hear me thanks man U um you know kayin Clark man kayin Clark you know she just getting what she you know everybody go through man a nothing she going to be all right I mean the uh you know the the uh you know we all we got to do is just you know we just gota open our eyes and we see what it is and ESPN and you know these [ __ ] pushing their narrative man you know they pushing whoever they want to push and you know Stephen A Smith you know all these guys all Jokers man you know I mean so they going you know they gonna hype whoever they GNA hype you know you know it is what it is but real recognize you know Ang so so so you think everybody should just play the game and just let it happen yeah play the game man because at the end of the day ESPN I don’t know what like why like how how how how did we get here why does why is people like Stephen A Smith that’s pushing bad bad you know bad energy out you know I mean yeah I get it he get paid to do [ __ ] we get it you know what I mean but why is he why do he have a a more powerful voice than you you get what I’m saying yeah like right right is right wrong is wrong we get it you know it’s entertainment but okay come on man like when it’s time to be fair and square and to be truthful man come on man don’t don’t lie don’t don’t say be pushing some [ __ ] ass narrative man but I mean look listen we we those who real those who recognize real they know what it is man Angel Reese and all these girls and then the other girl that you the other lady that young lady that you said that that you know went through the similar thing like last year like come on man we like we not stupid man people waking up man I mean but um like you know Kyrie situation and all that um Kyrie BR is you know he he a funny boy man he a funny boy yeah all you can do is just laugh Bri so D on glossy man goly a man a man come on and you can’t hate him it’s hard to hate him man he just no it’s hard to hate him but at the same time you know that like I said bro re Real Recognize bro we know what it is look at this point at the point in his life bro this 21 season man when that man have a sit down conversation bro I can’t never take that ball serious he’s not like a you know like a like somebody that’s just so genuine you hear you hear the tone and their voice the you know whatever whatever they speaking about is coming from the from the heart you know what I mean and LeBron is one of them dudes everything got a angle it’s always some it’s always some reason why he said it like everything is strategic yeah exactly first of all he just he just he just contradicted he just contradicted himself like bro you was just you was just you was just you know part word you just Dicky uh Seth like couple couple of weeks ago when you was on on a podcast with JJ now you you talking about how stuff is the the most you know influential person in the world and all kind of stuff now you saying Kyrie cuz Kyrie in the Limelight now he getting his just like come on man like I guess I guess he in a clickbait game yeah you know what I mean bro like come on bro you talking about something he the most gifted person that you ever seen like that’s that’s that’s High Praise we respect Kyrie you know what I mean we love Kyrie you talking about something like you said bro like you you said it better than I can say you know I mean it’s always something behind something you know I mean it’s always some type of angle yeah come on man why would you lie and say he the most gifted person the most the only person that you ever seen use his left hand Kobe used his left hand come on what are you talking about man Kobe Kobe Kobe broke his uh his right hand and was and was shooting with his left as a matter of fact I remember one game Kobe uh I don’t know if he separated his shoulder but he did something really bad to it on his right on his right on his right side and he stayed in the game not being able to lift his right arm up and was still posting up and was fading away with his left hand and hit it God you know what I mean so yeah that man uh come on man come on man like come on we we and that was so Monumental what you just say what you just said like what Kobe was doing in these games bro and that’s just one that’s just that’s not that’s that’s like 5% of what Kobe was going through in these you know me in these games and all that like you know I mean this n was going through some crazy [ __ ] and still holding down you know I mean still standing on on business you know I mean like come on bro like ain’t no bitching out ain’t no going to the bench and sitting out I’m hurt or going to the locker room I’m hurt no come on man like and then like the thing about is is I just want to I always want to say this on your show this my first time calling I always watch this show I just want to say this right I always wanted to say this but I never get a chance to call I always busy but I um to be serious man to be serious we all know what it is you know what I mean this this whole media and all that this never been like this before this like ESP and never had this much power and voice you know a group of idiots before you know I mean yeah like this this never been like this before we never been here before you know what I mean he you you know it’s funny you say that too because uh I I already know what you getting at and I just I just want I want to tell you and everybody that’s listening right people might not know this because it ain’t hit the news yet but um I was I was watching Dan L patard uh podcast and Stephen A Smith and ESPN have produced a documentary like the last dance but it’s for it’s produced by Stephen A Smith and ESPN and it’s about debate shows and how it influence media Sports media and you already know it’s about to Dag on uh uh paint and portray Stephen A Smith is the Michael Jordan of sports uh talk because he because he’s producing it just like Michael Jordan produced The Last Dance wow so uh the reason why Larry perard was talking about it is because he said they about to announce the release of it and he he said he remember going to get interviewed for this but you know ESPN hates Dan lebatard and he said he sat down for an hour and a half to uh answer questions and do the interview but he didn’t see his name on the credits um so he think he they they wrote his part out of the show or out of the documentary so he was kind of mad about that but uh d That’s crazy yeah that’s wow that’s wow so forget so so now you you controlling you want to control your own narrative and lie and oh forget forget M uh Michael wovon forget the uh oh no Michael he they interviewed Michael wi they they read the names and that was uh that was credited uhh for being a part of it it’s a lot of names on there but okay but you know Stephen A Smith about to Dag on put a spin like hell on this bad boy oh I want I can’t wait to see it and laugh you know me I’m just laugh who who did he who did he think he is though listen bro you know what it is too like I blame I blame us you know what I mean for us you know I blame us for not you know holding on like just standing on business bro we didn’t see it coming though we didn’t see it coming you’re right we didn’t see CA cause when when it when debate shows first started I want to say oh man when was it I was in man it’s what we in 20124 now man I want to say it’s been around for about 12 it no probably long that long that 2008 you think maybe maybe or no maybe I’ll say maybe eight or 20110 yeah cause LeBron came in what 0 03 03 and no it was before that because I remember before he won a championship that was already uh saying that he ain’t like Jordan so the debate shows started around when when when uh when when LeBron came in for real yeah and it might have been before because I I also remember uh all right so when Kobe was going through his mess with Kor I think Stephen Stephen A Smith might have been on his own show uh uh quite not quite frankly it was um quite frankly but where was he uh where was he when when was he because remember before he started the debate show he was covering Ai and phly yeah yeah and Philly I think it was uh quite frankly that was the show so after that is when I think first debate show might have been Skip and and Stephen A and and somebody saying it’s cold pizza remember cold pizza first take used to be cold pizza cold pizza yeah so I think that started and then I remember um the show where uh like where you it was like four people on the panel debate and you and you get points I remember that one I think that one still around I remember that one I remember that one yeah so yeah I remember that one somebody saying 06 is when it started that that sound about right 06 found SAR right yeah okay so so that’s right when D way one okay yeah so yeah because I remember they was debating if if if if LeBron was uh gonna be like Jordan because they was comparing everything like oh Jordan did this at 25 this is what LeBron did at they was comparing it like that and then by the time he couldn’t get to the uh finals and win they was like ah he ain’t like Jordan so that’s and that’s when he felt the pressure to leave Cleveland and and join that super team because everybody was saying he not like Jordan because he ain’t won yet so yeah which is I mean which is not fair though you know which is not fair a little bit but that’s what the shows do though yeah that’s they put a lot of pressure on these guys and you know they start doing stupid decisions you know what I mean yeah like at the end of the day you supposed to uh just you know focus on you and your team you know I mean what happened if you want to if you if you feel the pressure and you want to be like Jordan so bad you won’t be like Kobe so bad bro just develop your team you know what I mean the last the last the last Dynasty that did that was was uh was uh Warriors you know I mean yeah I just oh yeah this what I wanted to say right bro uh I think we not I think but we gotta we gotta we gotta be realistic here you know I mean forget the Jordan forget the KOB and all those guys these two guys they a A1 and ab you know what I mean those guys is like somewhere else with it you know what I mean yeah um the mentality is just by far somewhere else you know what I mean yeah so we it’s going to be hard for us I gotta we got to stop I myself I wanted a few guys that came and I was like damn I want to look at him as you know as how I look at Kobe but it’s they always they always you know prove me you know the other way correct but I I I I cut back on that you know I mean I’m not gonna disrespect Kobe and Jordan no more ever again you know I mean even with this Anthony Edward [ __ ] like come on man but um um I forget these two guys like I said they somewhere else I think we should focus on lebrown and step for me personally I think right now we sleeping on Steph Curry Curry uh situation step is actually right now Seth is actually the goat of this generation interesting impact yeah impact and influence influence in on the game and and the the the the the change when you say who changed the game I’m not talking like I’m talking about since since Kobe my Kobe actually my favorite player since I would say since Jordan Seth changed the game well let me ask you this though uhhuh take away all of the accomplishments and just you know just evaluate him as a player in his game is he really that much better than Kyrie or if if at all no no he’s not I I would never lie I would never lie about something like that he’s not he’s not better than Kyrie soy don’t you see how interesting that is though don’t you see how interesting circumstances can can can can because with Kobe and Mike we can without a doubt say n they better than I mean I don’t care who accomplished more than Kobe Kobe’s better than him unless his Mike right but with Steph like we we we we take a great player in Steph and then we take his accomplishments and then we take those accomplishments and and and put him over players that’s better than him like Kyrie Irving right right so and which is fair because you gota weigh in the accomplishments as well but I don’t want to I don’t want to OD on it and say he the goat of this generation I I it’s a lot of people after Kobe and Tim Duncan that you know uh helped carry the league uh step no no I was just saying of this generation not K you know they generation not yeah but it’s a lot though it’s it’s not just Stephen LeBron I think KD and uh is in there as well no the only my opinion I’ll take KD out of it just because of you know can’t you you know the the the the the his his his failures his his his fa not just his failure his journey how did he get to where he where he got you know what I mean um his journey was a little different you know the I don’t wanna K look KD was actually one of my favorite players and I was I was sorry that he he made that decision can’t beat him we gonna join him you know I mean now it’s like bro now you I was you was one of my favorite player but now you fit in the same criteria as as LeBron you know what I’m saying doing the same thing with brown doing me so how can I call you how can I call you one of the goat by the time your career is over you’re not yeah but don’t Steph and dwade go in that category as well because they they also jointed LeBron and KD like like just because way stayed in Miami and and LeBron came over to Miami doesn’t make it different they both wanted to play with each other so the same not NE not necessarily because the report that came is that the Warriors wasn’t looking for KD KD went to them I don’t know about that I don’t know about that I remember the reports came in and and they said the Warriors I mean the war the Warriors was not looking for KD KD went to them I got a uh a video I did when draym was talking about it on his podcast okay okay you can prove me wrong you yeah so this what this what Draymond said he said that uh BJ cause BJ Armstrong was his agent at the time and he said that Draymond was signing his contract maybe two or three years before that and uh BJ Armstrong asked him put the number on the piece of paper that you want me to ask the Warriors for and I go get it for you so he did he did that and he came he came back and and and told Draymond that you know the Warriors is willing to do that but he said let me explain something to you he said if you take this much when we get to this particular year or this particular time um this is what the cap space will look like for the Warriors and this is the available players you could uh get with that money but he said if you take a little bit less when it get to this year look who’s a free agent that year and he circled KD’s name and he said if you take less y’all will have money for that guy when free when he becomes a free agent in a couple of years so he so he purposely took less money two years before Kevin Durant was a free agent in hopes that he get kin Durant so they been in fck then wow oh wow this changes some some things right now yeah but um okay I appreciate that one I appreciate that one all right all right you know what then all right so so here about how about this he’s okay let’s say let’s just say he’s in the same category as dwade you know what I mean the super teams okay so let’s say this right that he he’s in that same BR and you know KD and D way and all that but uh uh still there’s a situation that step only play with one other Superstar which is KD correct so you know I mean and then his his you know his final record you know is is is is still is still you know amazing yeah you know what I mean uh 20 what 21 and uh I believe 13 you know I mean the kid the kid went to the finals uh six times and and got four out of it you know what I mean Bri went to the finals 10 times and got four out of it correct in 21 season this kid been out of he he got draft in 09 I believe I might be off I might be off you know what I mean so I mean yeah we don’t give a lot of credit to to to the small guards but you know we should we should and and and I think and I think Steph wasn’t getting a lot of credit like he he got a lot of credit when he was winning the MVPs back to back but I think I think him not showing up Finals MVP but yeah but yeah the League MVPs everybody was singing his Praises because he was pretty much doing what Caitlyn Clark did in college with how he was shooting and hitting three like that everybody was in love with it so he was getting love then and everybody was ready to Fast Track him up to those conversations that LeBron was in and then he had the finals injury and all no not the injuries I’m talking about he went to the finals the one that they won against against an injured Cavs team and then Iggy end up getting the MVP yeah Iggy got the MVP and Steph Curry didn’t play like he played in the regular season so everybody started dying down on that conversation about Steph and then KD showed up and became the number one for the team so they was like yeah you really ain’t getting that in that conversation no more and it took for Kevin Durant to leave and for the Warriors to get there again and for Steph Curry to ball out against Boston and he finally got in that conversation two years two two three years ago so he’s getting his love now yeah but you know I’m I’m with you on that man yeah he is one of the goats of this era one of the goats but I would put LeBron there I’ll put KD all three of them there all three of them carried this carried this ER yeah yeah they they did for sure yeah and know and and uh and and then uh one more thing as well um uh we we just got to end this whole stupid stupid ass debate you know uh Kate uh Bron would never beat you know Kobe he would never beat Jordan you know what I mean those those those two guys play a different way than he is you know I mean he’s a you know of course a big a little bit bigger uh freak of nature of um magic you know some and some like uh um Scotty you know what I mean and um but uh his game is a little different you know he a allaround good player but uh you know his his his his um his journey is a lot different from from the traditional you know stay stay with who you got build it up and you know like who did he really uh we got this thing where we we hear this thing where oh LeBron make everybody all his all his teammates better but who did he make better Kyrie was already Kyrie Kyrie was already Kyrie he went back he went back to Kyrie I mean went back to Cleveland Kyrie was already he got so many awards already in the Olympics I mean the the the you know Rookie of the Year allar Allstar yeah he was Allstar already you know I mean MVP of the of of in the USA all kind of crazy [ __ ] you know I mean this kid was already amazing he was already a star you know I mean on that on the team so you know I mean you put a team together with K LOVE Kyrie and you brought you know some good role players and all that you know what I mean so and you have multiple uh super uh super themes and [ __ ] like that come on man like you cheating the game I don’t I don’t respect people that cheat the game I mean that’s that’s cheating the game multiple times you did it too many times you want you on my squad right now you on the Lakers we need you to go I they didn’t want this guy here because I already knew I seen this coming you know what I mean he’s the’s he’s the disaster like a tornado you know what I mean I already seen it coming I know what’s going to happen oh he gonna come over here sh sft the blame on everybody and not accountability you know what I mean like bro it’s crazy yeah uh he would never be Kobe like Kobe actually took a Gasol Gasol was a before KOB I mean before before uh PA came came came to to the squad Paul was he was an Allstar at one time you know I mean 06 and gasar been in the league since 0 or whatever or maybe 01 you know what I mean and and gas became an all he when he got with the Lakers he became an Allstar in 09 you know I mean when Kobe developed him you know I mean into who he was so when we saying you you seen what Mike did with with Scotty that’s the same thing Kobe did with with Paul now you make you now you make a good point man Mo most of the guys that was co-stars with uh Lebron was already established uh Superstars or establish All Stars uh before he even got them or well at least the guys that he won with they was already established you know so as far as making people better I mean I mean you you you might can I mean I mean we we we was able to see the best of Booby Gibson in Cleveland come on man is that that Booby Gibson that booy gibon make make Hall of Fame no no but but hey but but after Le R left Booby Gibson was out of the league real quick man so if you if you a shooter and you ain’t got no business starting on nobody’s Squad and all you can do a shoot you gotta SP you gotta spot on the roster with LeBron because he will find you so I will say that man but I’ll take I’ll take that off the air man uh I’m gonna try to get one or two more calls in before I end all right man I thank y all right all right uh I had I had some calls come in that I didn’t get to uh y’all can call back it was a uh let me see it was uh okay there we go caller from Texas caller from Texas you got about 45 seconds what’s upy I just got one quick question man being that LeBron is uh almost 40 I’m not trying to be a pocket Watcher or hater on the man’s money and all like that but I’m asking your your thoughts on basketball why do you think he still can command and demand uh these high contract like he’s you know 23 24 just Prim at the age of 38 or the only thing I can think of is he must be selling a lot of merch a lot of jerseys and a lot of tickets and okay and and it might be right if you if if if you was LeBron agents if if you was rich Paul and LeBron said I want I want 50 mil a year on this next contract and you go sit down and talk to uh Jenny bus cuz I doubt he going to go talk to LOL he probably going straight to Jenny bus and you sit down and say hey look we know the Lakers made this much money last year Bas in ticket sales y’all are on TV every freaking uh uh every other week right so we know you making a lot of money and you you got your tickets all way jacked up that’s part partly because of me or mostly because of me so I’m G need I’m G need to get a a piece of that so he gotta write the demand that if the Lakers is making that much money the last thing I say and then I I get your response with this new contract the the Lakers might counter and Blake man we getting put out in the first round we can’t make deep playoff runs and we make a lot of money in the playoffs and you can’t help me get that money back what Rich Paul will come back with is if you draft bronny we’re gonna be the talk of every ESPN uh uh subject again every single game this year and as long as BR and bnie is there together so we still going to be selling you tickets all season long and you’re going to make money right so that’s that’s what they’re selling they’re not selling championships they’re selling that you go your bottom line and your revenue is gonna is gonna be good what’s your thoughts on that that makes a whole lot of sense man um it TR does I was just curious man because you know when he went to Miami I think they took pay cuts and stuff like that and uh one thing about LeBron man you know he you know you going get that that money and uh that’s fine and all but I’m just like damn brother still getting these big contracts and uh if they trying to play to win you know at this at this stage in this game if you want to get another Superstar like I’m hearing rumors about or or maybe one more to make it or two more and make get four total they you can take a nice little pay cut man and they can really build that team man but you know he has his own things about it so it is what it is I I I just find it interesting but you made a great point with the ticket sales the hbla the marketing and come see LeBron go out yeah appreciate that man thanks for the call too no doubt all right all right let’s get one more in here one more one more one more I feel that’s how the Cowboys look at it uh to uh just about revenue and dollars the uh being competitive part is second 100% Ronnie what’s up brother what’s up bro how you been man I’m good man how about yourself I’m good brother I’m good I’m gonna make it quick though um other caller like a couple calls ago whatever he mentioned something about about um sethh Curry and LeBron being the goats of this era this you know like this current ERA whatever I agree with that but I would say that I think more more people would accept I think more people would accept more of Curry’s career because he was more traditional I think LeBron was more political I think he was more about controlling the narrative yeah while to me Steph was more just about playing and winning and I think you could see p you could you could tell certain things too because really guys that’s that’s considered like goats and and and and and that we really put on that level the Michaels the the kobies the the Duncan and stuff like that all these guys played in the system like step yeah I don’t think LeBron really played in the system and the only time to me that I would say was close was when he was in Miami but even then like it didn’t it didn’t even last long like I don’t I to me there I think I think in like in a few years like after LeBron retired we gonna find out a lot more as far as about what was like what was going on in the in the league for the past 20 years but I think that a lot I think a main reason why he left Miami too had to do with the fact that um he just he he knew that he couldn’t he couldn’t get off his Antics there like he could somewhere else you know what I’m saying Miami is an organization it’s a lot of old schools you know and they’re they’re about the tradition of the of the of the of the of the game the history of the game and I and I think that LeBron was coming in with his his oky do stuff that he does or whatever but and I and I just don’t think that they were going for that and I think that’s that was one of the main reasons why he left yeah now you know when we talk about Kyrie Irving Kyrie Irving is is is dangerous Kyrie Irving is a first ballot Hall of Famers H I think they gonna win the finals we gonna see but um you know when it come to comparing with um with with with Steph Curry again I I would still put Steph there I would put step I would give it to Steph even though I wouldn’t say that Steph is overall better yeah I agree with you on that I understand that uh I understand if you if you making a a list of uh if you make a goat list and you say let’s let’s let’s rank these players uh you know down from one to 200 yeah I think Steph would be ranked higher than Kyrie Irving not because he’s a better player but because he’s just as good as a player as uh Kyrie he might be slightly better or Kyrie might be slightly better but it’s very close and it might be based on your preference which one you like better but when you add the resume to it I think uh Steph Curry’s resume blows Kyrie out of the water right it’s a book I look at it like a book like like where do we put you on the Shelf when your when your career is said and done where do we put you are you on the top shelf with Mike and Magic are you up there with the kin and the kobies are you up there where where do we put you at when your book is closed where do we put you at with your story well well that’s what it comes down to that that chef with Mike uh it ain’t it’s probably about four people up there and Steph ain’t one absolutely I agree that honestly I would say three I be but but I I I I’m not mad at that because to me it’s Michael Kobe and Kareem Abdul Jabar those are the top three greatest players to ever play in this league mine too ever mine too I got the same thing I don’t even care what your P what your order is it don’t matter as long as those names are the are the top three you know what you’re talking about yeah yep but the last thing yeah go ahead go ahead go ahead no no I was gonna say the last the last thing about this uh Steph Curry thing and the LeBron thing uh you know you said Steph did it more traditionally Steph is is sneaky as LeBron he’s a little slick little little little slide Joker too he’s really concerned about his image as well if he wasn’t so concerned about his image he wouldn’t have ran to go look at those moon rocks after he got all that heat from the media because he said we never went to the moon he’s very concerned about his image right so um he he he does damage control he don’t talk a lot about it but he got people like Draymond that’ll go talk for him right uh he got the media that’ll talk for him because he’s kind of like Caitlyn Clark everyone loves him in the media so if you can’t say nothing about about they’re protecting Steph Curry constantly and even if you say something like Kevin Durant was this or that to the Warriors they’re coming defend Steph Curry but when you really look at it Steph Curry is really going out there trying to prove that the Warriors was all about him and they trying to diminish Kevin Durant he’s he’s part of that effort as well so he’s just like LeBron just not as loud yeah but see but this is the only thing that I think is different about it I feel like Steph is going about proving that on the court I feel like LeBron would would would would he he’s trying he’s trying to he’s just trying to force he would try to force The Narrative of that okay that’s what I’m saying that’s the difference them so I but I do agree with what you’re saying though but uh but and this is one thing too I I I I’m not one of those ones that feel like uh KD was the reason that they were winning or anything I honestly just felt like KD was just really a plug-and play because really for that position you could have they didn’t I think they would have they I honestly felt like they would have won even if they didn’t get nobody that was uh Kevin Durant well than Barn I’m going tell you why disagree with that the right so the reason why the Warriors didn’t believe that is because they didn’t do it if if you could have saved that money and went and got anybody lesser than Kevin Durant and still won why go get Kevin Durant right so this is what the Warriors saw they had Matt uh uh Harrison Barnes in that position and Harrison Barnes did not deliver in the finals he would he couldn’t he couldn’t hit a bar the side of a Barnard if he was at a barn right so I feel you but they still won is my point no no no the one the one they won was when Kyrie and Kevin Love was hurt it was LeBron by himself with J.R Smith and delova right so they they won that series then they came back and there was a healthy Kyrie and a healthy love we both agreed that Kyrie and Curry is on the same level so if Curry is your best player and he’s on the same level with the Cav second best player Who’s Lebron James equal nobody right so you had a you had a mismatch the only reason why it was even competitive is because LeBron uh his system is so flawed that predictable right so you have to do a lot of heavy lifting to win with that system that’s the only why I was why I was even but LeBron didn’t have a equal in that Series right and Kyrie Irving was eating Steph Curry’s lunch in front of his face that his wife made right so so they knew that they couldn’t no longer beat a healthy Cavs team unless they get someone for uh Lebron James that’s why they had to go get Kevin Durant who was the guy who everyone said was either the best player in the league or the second best behind LeBron so now LeBron has a equal and Steph Curry has an equal with Kyrie now let’s see who’s gonna win well the best offense won because the Cavs don’t run an offense as sophisticated as the Warriors so that’s not that’s the first point the second point is even with Kevin Durant the Warriors barely got pass Harden in the Rockets if if CP3 they get hurt it lights out for them right the last point is that they gave up so many pieces that’s why I can’t say Kevin Durant was just plug and play the style that they played people thought they just ran up and shot threes they did but they had a really good defense they had a three and D player in Harrison Barnes they had a three and D player in eiga they had Barosa coming off the bench three and d and a blur they had Rim protectors and Andrew bogot they had a rim protector coming off the bench and uh investor Z Le right uh they had uh uh uh James Michael meca do they had a whole they had uh uh McGraw they had a squad they had a full bench all these guys could play defense that was interchanges where they could switch on screens all of that stuff that was their style they they let bogit go they let ail go they let Barbosa go they let Harrison Barnes go right uh they let about seven people go so they can bring in Kevin Durant and then they had to go find people that play on the vet minimum that was way past their Prime like David West and and uh uh and people like that to fill the rest of their roster up and they still won remember when Nick Wright first came out and said the Warriors lost all their defense they can’t win and Kevin Durant never played defense and Kevin Durant came out there and was like I will play the center position in this death lineup of Draymond Green Iguodala Stephen Clay and I will be a shot blocker and I’ll switch all screens and guard the perimeter Kevin Durant played that type of defense and helped them it wasn’t just his offense so no no no he wasn’t just plug and play he was the engine for the I mean Steph the the St the offense still ran through Steph but Kevin Durant was a freaking monster no I’m not saying he wasn’t a monster I just don’t really I don’t feel like that that their system changed when he came I don’t feel like the system changed at all I just felt like he was just being he just he just was in a position just to be Kevin Durant he was just able just to to do what he do you know what I’m saying and their system work it just it flowed so perfectly for him you know what I’m saying but I I I don’t I don’t I I disagree with some [ __ ] you said but I I feel where you coming from as far as perspective though I feel what you saying but I do just feel like like it it was uh because because we never seen anything up else close to that after that with with Kevin dur with Kevin Durant he’s the type of dude he he’s a good player and I think this is another thing too that people get confused I think that because we see the some of these guys are so talented we assume that they should be leaders or the or the or the system should run through them somehow and I think a lot of people look at KD like that but I don’t I don’t see him as that type of dude I see him as somebody who needs to be like he like really Warriors was perfect for him for real on but hold on he he was that dude in OKC before he got to the Warriors he was but he never closed the deal he couldn’t do that yeah but he was at the finals and but and he faced a super team a LeBron a LeBron Le super te with d way and B so he got to the finals and he was only 23 so Kevin Durant was absolutely that Cali player and he could lead a team this is what happened to Kev Durant after Golden State he went to Brooklyn and he became a villain and the media didn’t like him no more the media didn’t like Kyrie Irving Stephen A Smith was mad he didn’t go to the Nick so he had a lot of people in the media against him with even with that that Brooklyn team they put together when they had Harden and Kyrie Irving that was up on on the Milwaukee bus two and and was beat them 20 and 30 points like Jeff Teague on his podcast said man we knew was we knew he was going home and four we knew he was getting swept and then Kyrie Irving got hurt and then the next game James Harden got hurt and Kevin Durant still almost beat them in game seven which means they would have been playing the Atlanta Hawks Nets they would have easily got to the finals don’t know if they would have won it it would have depend on how healthy James Harden could have got but they easily would have got to the finals and we would be having a different conversation but the league moved on from Kevin Durant and when the league moves on from you you’re not going to get the favor you’re not going to get the Whistle the star calls none of that you’re written out of the script just like WWE if you’re written out if you’re written out of the script and Stone Cold supposed to be the uh the the winner how the hell is the rock goon get the belt Vince McMahon said it’s not your turn and the NBA said your time is up Kevin Durant it’s not your turn yeah and that’s why you get swept by Boston when they’re calling the game the way they’re calling it you you you got to add that aspect on to it when you’re when you’re judging players and you’re going to judge them based on what they accomplished you got to look at the circumstances too because sometimes it’s the league sometimes it’s injury it’s a lot of circumstances I wouldn’t say he’s not a leader because he’s shown it but when you were written out of the script is a WP but I’ll take that call off the air man so I can get off him man I appreciate the call all right man be yep all right one one last call one just one one because there was some people uh calling in while he was talking I’ll take one more I think I seen one from like Michigan I’m not sure um but yeah man Kevin Durant’s not in the script no more man and he knows it and LeBron knows it that’s why he keep trying to find clever ways to get back into the story and if he draft Bron or bronnie then the NBA’s gota all right all right man we’re we’re consider you one more year we’ll we’ll milk this because if you can figure out a way to get the NBA to to look at you and be like oh man we need the we need to Market this you know for for our for our money LeBron understand that caller from Ohio what’s up how you doing man I’m good that’s good I’m just gonna pck it back on a couple things right quick okay um I gonna say I’m just gonna make a quick thing with the WNBA those are women and women are just being women I’m not talking about any basketball player I’m just talking about women how they do things and if we don’t if you don’t understand if you understand women how they’re approaching it it’s just women being women I I don’t understand can you can you help me um just how women do things I mean I I I don’t want to be sexist about it but be SE look tell me what you’re saying and don’t be sexist like if what you’re saying is sexist I I don’t understand why you well I mean it’s not sexist but I’m saying men and women are different yeah okay I agree men and women are different way way we the way men would handle the NBA and how they’re gonna talk about it is not gonna be how women gonna talk about women gonna talk about what they’re gonna talk about that’s what I’m saying I’m I I still can’t make the connection you trying to make sir okay I’m leave that Al then okay but I I know somebody they understand what I’m saying um uh but y’all was talking about the Golden State I’m gonna jump on that right quick okay um with the gold state thing like I’m a gold I’m a gold State fan I’ve been watching them and Kevin Durant and I’m not taking away nothing away from none of them but um since 2015 and what the other caller were saying since 20 2015 Steph Curry has been the the most successful player in the NBA and I think that’s what he means as far as um the goat of the generation because it’s 2015 2015 he’s been the most successful um the Kevin Durant join and golden since 2015 what what did he do since 2015 uh he’s won four championships two scoring titles and uh Stills Channel and obviously he’s won clut player he won clutch player and he’s won MV he won Western Conference MVP IIT iedit I credit him for two championship as a number one and I credit him for two as a number two uh how do how do you how do you how do you credit Kyrie Irving for the for the ring he won in Cleveland with LeBron how do you credit that to uh Kyrie as a number two what you mean how I credit like how much weight does it hold does it hold the same as as the championship that Steph won is a number one you said when Kyrie won in in 2016 as a number two all right so let I’m I’mma take Steph the first ring that Steph won in uh 15 as a number one versus the ring that Kyrie won and 16 as a number two are they wait are they weighted the exact same um well yeah because St in 2015 no no no I just want to know if winning as a number one is the same as winning as a number two so the six so the so when we when we’re comparing players and we’re talking about the greatest winners on the on the on the on the court Jord and Pon are equal and they’re winning because they both got six forget who the number one and who the number two was Jordan and P are equal as far as uh how their championships are stacked up correct the point I’m the point the point I’m trying to drive home or actually get you to say is do you equate winning it as the driving force as the number one option the same as winning as a supporting role as a number two option do you wait them the same I mean you you why you I think LeBron was the number one option he was he drove that right that’s why that’s why I’m asking is it is it the same is it weighted the same is is LeBron’s ring is a number one waited the same are you saying wa a minute are you saying Steph was number two behind kin Durant yes no okay well that’s that’s that’s that’s where I was missing no step was step was number two behind Kevin Durant well let me just is a fact let me State what what that situation was I’m a fan I don’t want to take nothing away from Kevin Durant and and his ability and his game but when they got Kevin Durant Kevin Durant was was um signing what one year twoyear options contract okay what they were doing and and like say he and I don’t want to call him a plug and play player but if you look at the Warriors championships the first one like you said egod dollar was the MVP which he should well I ain’t gonna say [ __ ] I he shouldn’t have been but I’m not mad that he got it I’ll put it that way so Stephen Clay step mainly staff is who you who you’re not g to leave alone well you plug Kevin Durant in there um two years later and he’s the MVP I mean what’s the difference a do was the MVP a year before the difference is Kevin the difference the difference the difference is wait wait wait wait wait no you didn’t just say hold on wait let finish man come on man you can’t do that brother you can’t do that when I say hold on I I got a point I want to make I you know come on brother have a little bit of respect when I say hold on I’m trying to make a point you asked the question I want to answer it the reason why Kevin Durant MVP in the finals is different from IGA dollas is because Kevin Durant is freaking Kevin Durant and he was the number one option on the team and his performance was that I’m putting this team on my back and on my shoulders which is what he did he put his team on the shoulders he went toe-to-toe with LeBron James he murdered LeBron James on that Court two years in a row he’s the reason why they won in a sweep like fashion in a gentleman sweep he’s already been an MVP in the league igod dollar has done none of those things right so we’re not gonna act like the MVP Finals MVP yeah we not we’re not acting like the finals MVP for Kevin Durant and IG make makes them equal players come on man you you go slight you go slight some just because you like Steph Curry that much you can’t do that man you gotta like no no sir sir sir sir you have to like basketball more than you like the players that play it be a fan of the game be a fan of the game don’t be a man fan go ahead okay okay this is what I’m saying you you missing my point okay I said I said inod dollar was the MVP the first year right the next year if it hadn’t been a suspension all that Draymond would have been the MVP right I don’t know well jerrym was the MVP Steph Curry there I don’t know they probably lost I watch the game yeah JM would have been the MVP my op my op my opinion they still would have lost so the MVP would have been LeBron okay well I mean but I’m saying J other series Draymond was the MVP of that series no LeBron was next year no LeBron wasad I’m saying as far as for Golden State the next year Kevin Durant was the MVP so what you explain what you explaining is what you’re explaining is that Steph Curry can’t rise to the occasion in the finals you’re saying he needs Viagra in the NBA finals and and Kevin Durant was the vi that he needed that’s what you’re saying when they wer there he’s the MVP so what saying if he had never if he had never gotten there then those arguments would be legitimate but after all after since 20 Fe starting in 2015 this guy this guy and and like they say you say Kevin Durant was the number one option he was according to tyo tyo say Steph was the number one option and we going to double Steph and we going and we going to live what happen with Steph and that’s from Ty’s Ty said Seth was the number one option and did it work hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on listen listen listen did it work when they had that game plan did Cleveland and talloo beat the Warriors No say no no no no no no no ask the question ask a question T’s gang plan was are we using injuries stop list listen T T’s game plan against Cleveland I mean against the Warriors according to you is that Steph is the number one option so we’re g to double Steph and out of eight games well I’m sorry out of nine games they got one in two years that was their game plan but without Kevin Durant that same tyoo game plan was to put pressure on Steph and at work and they beat him wait a minute nine what nine games did they get and got one they played Cleveland two years in a row one year was a sweep 40 and one year was a gentleman sweep 41 that’s nine games you talking about oh you’re talking about when when um yeah but okay but no no no but ask my question ask my question the game plan the game plan that you’re saying tou used was was to to stop Steph uh it it didn’t work because of Kevin Durant correct yeah because they had somebody make open shot no no no not open no not open shots Kevin Kevin Durant Kevin Durant Kevin Durant wasn’t KY corver just sitting in the corner waiting for open shots Kevin Durant I’m saying they if if if Harrison Barnes because I watched the whole then why they let Harrison Barnes go then why did they go get Kevin dur 16 if he had made a few open shots they would have won game five not dude stop it come on you call you Call here the cap for Steph Curry we not about to do that man we got we gotta be honest on this show I’m talking about the Warriors No Man the most since 2015 what kind of shirt you got on right now wait a minute okay has seep Steph Curry been the most successful player since 2015 yes or no no okay who’s who’s achieved more to him tell me what tell tell me what he achieved as a number one option he’s always been the number one option but I’m saying not when Kevin Durant was there what what what what what was his MVP years just well just answer my questions I answer your on tell me your question who’s been more successful tell me what he achieved since 2015 asking my question since 2015 I’m trying to more successful if you if you tell me what he achieved since 2015 I answer your question okay he’s been the six finals no he has not man since 2015 he has been the six finals oh my God all right go ahead he went wait a minute he didn’t go to six finals yeah go ahead he’s been in six finals going to six finals six final you mean six finals in 2015 he went to his first one in 2015 name name name his accomplishments man we not going to no finals appearance as an accomplish that’s not an accomplish man he got clapped in two of them stop man kawh L he’s got four rings that’s a hey two two two of those two of those finals appearance are failure sir he’s got four rings he’s got two scoring titles he’s got a unanimous MVP he’s he’s got he’s got a a scoring title and a steals title in the same year how many people has done that he’s got that he’s got what what he get this year clutch player clutch player of the year he’s got Western Conference Finals MVP and he’s got um finals MVP and he’s he’s he’s got the alltime three-point record um he’s got the highest what what do they call that whatever in history for one season so who I mean who who can if you play wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait we don’t count being hurt when you actually play the game just like when LeBron James lost and came to the podium with a uh freaking rist uh uh uh a bandage around his wrist or or whatever he had around his wrist we don’t now we don’t count that if you played you played now we count if you was out for the game just like ke Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving was that’s called being hurt we not about to count oh man I had a everybody had an injury bro but I but I say this about people being out and being hurt we can’t we can’t use that as a criteria because then no championship in history would mean nothing so we can’t count because the person I don’t care when they get hurt when they are we can’t never make that an excuse because no Championship would mean anything Isaiah got hurt and then he missed the game or how about the guys who got hurt during the season so I don’t never use who whoever is there whoever’s not there as excuse for who won a l because then no championship and anything would mean nothing so I don’t I don’t I don’t I don’t it’s noteworthy to to mention if if if you’re playing and your second best player and your third best player is not there then it is what it is is noteworthy yeah but but but what I’m saying is if we if because somebody would look at the year that clay hold on what’s your name hold on what’s your name what’s your no no no no no no what’s your name what’s your name again I want I want to address you right what’s your name again I’m from Ohio I don’t get my name you don’t get your name okay call her from Ohio well look listen no one you’re you’re making an argument against something I never said no one is saying Steph Curry ring doesn’t count because Kyrie was hurt the only reason why I bought that up is because you her listen to what I’m saying you was trying to make you was trying to make a point that uh uh I I don’t I don’t know what you was trying to make a point that something Steph did was such a great accomplishment and and he could he could beat LeBron and all this I’m saying LeBron fac to him without his his his number one and his number two or his number two and his number three that’s noteworthy to menion but that doesn’t mean I’m not counting his ring so it’s it’s no point to even debate that the ring counts I’m not not I’m not discounting his ring I’m just letting you know when they both was healthy what really was supposed to oh I know what you were trying to make you were trying to say that um they didn’t need Kevin Durant because they beat the Cavs without him but I’m telling you they beat the Cavs without their number two and number three that’s why Kevin Durant was necessary because when they ran it back against a healthy Cavs team they couldn’t beat them so they needed Kevin Durant they couldn’t do it with Harrison Barnes so that that I think I think that’s a uh a falsehood that you’re saying they didn’t need Kevin Durant they could have ran it with just any small forward like Harrison bnes no that’s not possible but man I appreciate I appreciate your call though man just let me alliterate this and I’ll make it quick I’m not g to say they didn’t need Kevin Durant that would be me over stating Kevin Durant’s importance of the game that that’ be you ly sir that be you ly I wouldn’t say they didn’t need him he wasn’t the number one option that’s my point but he was but but he was though what’s your def what’s your definition of a number one off your number what’s your of the number one option who the offens is build around and who no that’s not what no that’s not no that’s not what the number one option is uh sir the number one option is your your your best your best player that’s gonna bail you your number one option is your best player that more often uh times than not bail you out of the tough situations that that too that’s what because because guess what Steve Nash uh that offense was built around him in Phoenix the number one was Amar St uh hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on the high picking Road screen row they ran in Utah was built around the talents of John Stockon the number one option was car Malone you get what I’m going with this wait wait wait wait wait wait you get what I’m going with this so the better player and the better score I don’t agree I don’t agree oh okay so the offense the St was number one option KD yeah but that’s because you like Steph though you you a cap for Steph you like Steph that’s you like St no but you I don’t care what T we we already went through taloo you you can’t you can’t give me tallo’s explanation of who the number one was when J said it too J said step got more triple triple teams and triple teams than Kevin Durant but that don’t mean he was the number one option Kevin Durant was the number one option [ __ ] mate he was the number one option I don’t even know where you going with this and you talking about some tou and and T got swept twice come on man we get out of here man let me say this’s not atic I think because he’s not that ain’t got nothing to do with it man that a got nothing to do with it man you can’t you look look just just because you want to come up here and cap for him for whatever reason you like him I don’t know I don’t know if his his eyes what is it the braids I don’t know I don’t know why you want to call him a c you always call my show and and and and get into a Steph Curry conversation and it always ends like this it always ends with you being barbecued and cook every single time you always leave here flame blur every single time and I’m tired of doing this to you I’m tired of putting you in that pot I’m tired of it come on man get some better material I don’t want to I wantan to I don’t want to keep calling uh and and and talking about freaking Steph Curry Man play of the Year man stop getting year stop getting cooked man he just player the year though [ __ ] mate calm down come on shipmate stop it hey man good good talk try but you know we just disagree but I like your show man but and I love your call I love your call too huh oh thanks man yeah man thank you man I appreciate it all right B all right right [ __ ] mate what’s up hey what up fam why hey why hey why people why people be calling him doing me like this man he heyo I lost it you said I’m to put you in pot no no I ain’t gonna lie I ain’t gonna lie though I do feel I do feel though uh K was only the number one option because of how people were guarding stuff because of the year that he came off of prior to that that was the the year before KD got there was it yeah he got human right uh yeah okay so the lead started to take on notice how good Steph Curry was and they um they started guarding him very aggressively it start it started it started with Cleveland in the finals too didn’t it yeah it did it did let me let me ask you this let me ask you this that record and they lost to Cleveland right I mean they they they beat they they had that record they lost to Cleveland but the year before that like you said and I agree if Kyrie does not go down if Kevin Love does not go down two series before that that’s a whole different series man correct we’re looking at a whole different uh conversation about Steph Curry and the Golden State war warriors you know so yeah that’s tough man so let me ask you this though so being that as a number one option because remember Draymond and and I did a I did an episode on this Draymond on his podcast said we don’t win those two rings without Kevin Durant we don’t beat Cleveland again because he said not only Cleveland but he said teams in general started to figure them out and they figured out how they can beat us by taking step out of the game and they took step out of the game by what exactly what you said they get super physical with them they face guard him and once they do all that the offense is done so he said teams figured them out he don’t think they would have got back to the finals at all but he said when Kevin Durant came you couldn’t do stuff like that no more because now you got this seven foot monster over here and that’s exactly what end up happening so basically what he basically what he described to is Steph was a number one option until he got figured out and now as a number one he wasn’t goingon to be able to lead us so they went and got a a number one that can handle everything and now Steph can run free does that make it um does that does that mean that because they change the way they play does that fully transition KV to number one no he was he he was the as as soon as as soon as if you’re the number one on the team as soon as a better player come you’re the number two Okay okay right so like like when when um uh when Kevin Durant came to Phoenix they might be running the same offense that Devon Booker know but now Kevin Durant’s automatically the number one okay so let’s uh on that logic right I don’t think LeBron was the number one on the heat Dwayne Wade was the better player and Dwayne and and what did D Wade say he said after they lost to Dallas he took a step back take a step back yep I step so LeBron could be the number one y exactly what what what what did Steph Curry say when uh when KD showed up he took a step back you took the step back in as well he had to because a better player showed up oh well yeah yeah that that’s true too though that’s true it is what it is but I gotta get off here man this was supposed to be two hours is adding up three and a Goode I wasn’t able to tap into the comments as much as I usually do but I I listen to the whole thing oh uh it’s a lot of people losing wrenches tonight hey uh put y’all bid in who who who want to do actually some real work and and monitor the comment section that want to wrench because all these people that have wrenches and and let that dude call me the nword in the comment section and ain’t nobody ain’t nobody uh uh kick him out I yeah I got to have y’all rent for that man yeah I I I didn’t seen it until you mentioned it don’t worry about it you won’t see that wrench no more either I’m do it through the phone I’m messing with you man no but no y’ hey y’all wrench holders man I can’t believe y’all man hey y’all gota be on point for me next time man somebody come in here being racist like gonna let that happen all right bet man I appreciate it man luckily I caught it though luckily I caught it man that man was in here mad cuz I was he was mad cuz I was in here talking about Caitlyn BooBoo and uh and uh and he he was like I I won’t stand for this that man that man typed up the nword with me and spelled it wrong too yeah uh I’m I’m address that real quick and then I’m gon let you go man but that Caitlyn cart situation I think I sent you a video uh c i I’ve watched about I’ve watched about five fever games I’ve watched about two sky games and I’ve also been Ted in because I I ain’t gonna lie out of all the rookies I like Cameron bre I like her and I like her fit on the Sparks so I I watched about four of their games as well but I’m saying all of this to say this Caitlyn Clark does not have the supporting class uh supporting um cast that the other three have but I’m not gonna sit here and say that they’re only targeting kit Clark because like you said earlier I’ve seen that angel Reese when she got body SL you know what I mean so yeah well the supporting Cass is only responsible to help her get win so to explain why she’s not winning I would put that on The Supporting Cast but to explain why she going out there uh uh scoring three points and eight points in in in key games and you can’t get it done and you look like totally different from what you looked in college that ain’t got nothing to do with her Supporting Cast yeah she’s forcing it don’t she’s definitely forcing a lot of shots so yeah she looking like agre yeah she looking like Jimmer for dead out there but uh not not College Jimmer n not not College gimmer looking like Pro Jimmer or or or Pro Adam Morrison Sacramento gimmer yeah yeah and I’m still and Jimmer for for that still a bucket I I want I wish he would come back in the league and give it a try man something in the uh in the league that he was in cold he cold he need to come back to league and run point for a playoff team man but yeah let me get up out of here man let me end this uh uh stream man I appreciate everybody for tuning in thanks bro yes sir all right all right all right man thank y’all for making this show is super long but we still uh had people in here watching so I appreciate that man um I want to see uh the numbers go up though I I seen 500 in here on the live before and that was the day I I went in I I started at three o’clock man so uh may maybe I’m going too late but uh you know getting between 150 and 250 is is is good but I want to see that 500 again so uh y’all y’all doing a good job of uh sharing the videos and stuff like that I see people are sharing it and stuff like that but let’s let’s do uh uh a real good job this week of sharing the video let’s see if we can get new Subs in here and get a lot of people man because as much as this show grow the more I can come to you you know 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