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[Music] yeah look they love me yeah they love Jewel welcome back to it is what it is this episode is sponsored by Underdog fantasy the app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players Underdog is available in more than 30 States including California Florida Texas and New York just to name a few make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the underdog fantasy app they’ll also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up I’m treasure Wilson AKA sat baby along with your host mace and cam killer what’s going on man chilling man chilling you know got to do some things my bad man pause you got to do some things pause yeah man what you got to do exactly can’t say it on the show why you just said it on the show and then say you can’t say it on the show what what you is there something you want to talk about yeah I had to tell you off camera all right that’s fine with me and you telling me off camera so I can say it on camera later hey you can use me man for you can let me know what’s going on whenever you know uh I’m unfiltered and unadulterated that was the first I see a lot of people was was uh they was happy what I said and gained a lot of information as far as a cuck hold is concerned yeah yeah yesterday I was looking and they is it’s like killer we didn’t know that and they like it’s crazy the [ __ ] is out here still doing that [ __ ] are still doing that seem like [ __ ] have personal experience yeah [ __ ] already knew about that yeah man but that was very informative that’s what we do here and it is what it is we’re a sports show but we also inform on other worldly things that’s going on out there so that’s what makes us who we are but yeah it was very informative and they said that uh the lessons that we’re teaching stat she could never learn at school that is very true a lot of Truth to that yeah he said stats learning more here than she ever could have learned in college man so there you have it there you have it okay so we’re going to start the top of the show talking about just feels there’s a lot of discussion around the Bears quarterback because he unfollowed the team on Instagram so of course a lot of people were asking him why he unfollowed his own team off of Instagram his argument was just because you don’t follow the girl on IG don’t mean you’re not messing with her is this a valid point to you guys that might be a lot of Truth to that you know there’s a lot of people dating people that they’re not following and there’s a lot of people in relationship with people they’re not following like me I don’t follow anybody but I know a lot of people and I talk to people every day but I that just mean I don’t want to see your feed sometime people be taking it too serious like you know I like I like my space I like I like to have my clear thought and sometime when you got people twerking and doing all kind of challenges like killer was talking about I don’t be want to see all those challenges so it doesn’t mean that I’m not I’m not um you know feeling the people or or like what they doing it’s just I don’t want to consume that all day pause I have a question since you follow literally zero people how clear does your feed need to be like how does that work that’s why when I come on here I could give a pure answer because it’s not swayed by anything I saw or anything I heard is just coming from a pure place I wouldn’t usually call you a liar but St am I wrong one day we talking about NE long and he’s like it’s you could get the other girl that’s like looks like Nea long and I’m like where you like from my G I’m like I don’t even know you talking about I’m like right she’s going IG she look like NE long and I’m like you don’t follow anybody how do you know who’s on IG right people send me things you send me things likeo was looking at this this is what he needed on top of that pause and I was like oh who is that so they send you all the current information cuz you seem very ESS of everything that’s going on on Instagram you don’t miss don’t skip a beat you must got [ __ ] you must got like that CL just sending you stuff all day every day cuz you know everything I ask you about you know what’s going on but I would never call you liar you my man it’s clear on your page not following the soul but yo you ain’t see shorty yeah she nice she the drill rapper from Alabama where at i g shorty red 5572 Dash Okay my man my [ __ ] my [ __ ] yeah far as Justin Fields is concerned look it’s been a roller coaster ride since he’s been to Chicago uh you know he’s supposed to be their franchise quarterback when he first got there hasn’t been working out for him that the way that uh it’s supposed to work out if I’m not mistaken I don’t want to say that because I may be mistaken it was before some Instagram [ __ ] and it’s sad and to M’s point and I follow thousand a little over thousand people follow people but if I’m dating and and he he slick by saying this this was a very slick yeah comeback this was slick cuz I don’t usually if I if I’m dating somebody or going out with somebody I don’t like their pictures I don’t follow them I don’t you got my phone number we got that and if we end up do following each other on Instagram or whatever it’s not all Y where you going to be at Theon night or what you doing later because people like to be in your business when you start doing that you put two you put the right two comments you want to shave them depending on who you are oh winky eye hard eye emoji this stand the third so a lot of times if you see me liking commenting put a fire Emoji under a female’s picture nine times out of 10 I’m not dating her I’m not doing anything with her uh was just purely platonic if I even met her you know that’s a good disclaimer killer yeah yeah thank you I got it from the I learned from the best man I learned from the best man look I’m be honest with you I went through a really you know I went through a public relationship on Instagram basically because I was with a person when Instagram came out so when you when Instagram first come out and you’re in a relationship you like oh this is fun put up the picture of us doing this put a picture of us doing that oh hey hi hey same outfits here around the corner Carnival U movies days then that [ __ ] started getting serious as the years started why you didn’t putting my pitch up yeah why you ain’t putting my pitch up and not only that the people who grow to like you as a couple they start feeling the way if you don’t put the picture up it’s like what you doing with her where’s so and so at you know I see you know shout out to my my I broke um he went through that something I don’t remember where uh exactly the scenario but he was on the G and he took a picture with probably a fan female fan or son they like his girlfriend’s name is to he know she’s Pop I only know her because he post her a lot and they like that’s not toot where’s toot at where’s she at and he like bro it’s my cousin you know what I’m saying so I kind of get that and I think Justin Fields was slick by saying that uh you know it’s times where they talk about maybe trading them benching them should he start should he not start this is uh this was really clever on him to say that because yeah look what what was the scenario we we just talked about this last week right and we never even ret talked about it because uh loss of pimping and um Lil Mike Lil Mike Jr um broke up and a reason people attributed that breakup was to they took down everybody’s Instagram pictures she took down his pictures he took down her pictures uh put subliminals up if you break up with somebody should you should your friends unfollow them etc etc etc all because of social media and four days later they was back together yeah people got to stop letting social media run their life and I think I think Phils Justin Phils is saying it’s just because they’re about to drive Caleb Williams in a nut show I mean you could be 100% right I’m not disagree with you at all but that was a play it safe what he did played it safe so uh it’s definitely we’re definitely in that era like I got into an argument with uh a few people not now I’m sitting here thinking about it yo you unfollow me why you unfollow me I’m like yo you doing dumb [ __ ] you know you bugging out I’ll tell you a scenario and like word that’s how you feel really like seriously so um I was I did a television show I was uh with with Brandy a couple years ago and I had a friend of mine who’s a really good Ghost Writer makes Beats Etc and Brandy on this show she was going to be a rapper and I was like y you could ghost right for her and maybe potentially make some beats or whatever he like yo bet he’s not you know it would have been a good look for him an hour later he put like I put up a picture of me and Brandon he made like some uh it wasn’t tasteful joke in the comments so I just told him this so I blocked him Kim how you GNA block me yo why would you that I’m like bro what if this girl sees this I just gave you opportunity to write some lyrics what you love doing make some beats what you love doing and then you sit there and make a joke about some a money opportunity okay because you don’t know I do comedy too that’s part of my comedy you know what you you enjoy I blocked him so he C an attitude with me I know friends who’s mad at other friends who blocked them we’re in that eror to and I tell people all the time if you got my phone number be happy you got my phone number yeah sometime you’re just not interested just because you’re my friend I don’t mean I want to follow you because your pages are intered yeah for me uh what make them interesting to you well several things uh I like I follow CNN I follow ABC uh for worldly news I follow sh room ball alert for [ __ ] news I follow girls with nice bodies cuz I’m a pervert sometime and I like to watch like girls with nice bodies I follow basketball players I follow NBA teams I follow Sports in general um I follow um news outside the country as well not just in America I follow uh Nature’s Predators I’m in the animals it’s several different things the animals yeah yeah I oh that was crazy but go ahead no I don’t count that as a pause that’s that’s more like beastiality that isn’t DRS but yeah I like I like going tell y’all what beastiality means if you want to Google that that’s up to you um but yeah I’m definitely in the animals I like watching National Geographics you know I have I have a like three closets dedicated to animals at Cemetery I can’t make this so it varies for me on and then another thing that what happens is with Instagram they make it so also and I like I said we’ll move on but on Instagram what they do is that when you’re get when you’re going to search for something on Instagram you go to the search page it’s mad stuff on the search page before you actually type in what you want to type in so you’re like oh let me click on this and you may be stuck on that for like 10 minutes just because you wasn’t um you seen something interesting all it um to me I don’t even think it’s necessarily about interest I just think people are nosy there’s a lot of people that I do not follow and you guys will never know that I know that have my number and that’s all that it needs to be I think people are way too much in other people’s business and all it takes is one follow or one picture with them and everybody’s in your business so I just think leaving it at that that’s good and Justin fields did explain that like football consumes like 99% of his life now that they are in offseason obviously he’s still working out and stuff he doesn’t need to see stuff from NFL and bears 24/7 cuz that’s literally his life so I understand having a little break here and there but is he gonna stay with the Bears that is a question I cannot answer he’s not staying with the Bears this was that transition yeah okay we’ll see what happens there’s no confirmation on that but based off of Ma’s guess he’s thinking that he’s not gonna football and quarterbacks and everything else I spoke to Cam Newton man for real yeah man I had a good conversation with Cam uh actually the day before yesterday and we talked briefly yesterday as well and he uh shout out to cam big fan of the show and uh we we like what you’re doing as well and he just wanted to say if it was any Mis understanding the confusion he [ __ ] with us and you know he’s hopefully he’ll be up next week um on the show either Monday Tuesday early next week he’s going to come on the show via Zoom so uh big shout out to cam new yeah good for cam just we had a great conversation man and where Cam is at you know um and I won’t get into a lot of detail I’ll let him tell what he wants to talk about when he comes on the show next week is just that he’s trying to figure out media as well and he’s not uh shy about saying that he’s basically saying that uh me and you and People Like Us in this show in general uh Paving the way for what he’s trying to do you know what I’m saying and you know he has no backing he has no sponsorship he has nothing and uh I told him that’s how we started you know what I’m saying so he was just saying he didn’t mean anything if we felt the way because he’s kind of we’re kind of setting a tone for what a lot of people are trying to do dope well also speaking of Cam Newton when talking about CJ stoud Cam Newton said I don’t know nobody that really had a better rookie campaign than him do you agree then who cam CJ St CJ stra I think I mean since we on the Cam Newton campaign I think Cam Newton had a better year better rookie season than um CJ Stout I think he’s one of the only people that had a better season and then you got then you got my guy you know pause Pat moms but other than that this is a great this is a great um a great person to put over CJ stra let me look at my notes um yeah I got Cam Newton at um 451 yards he had he was only 57 yards short of what CJ Stout had he had more touchdowns less interceptions so you know this was really good um I was gonna say cam but I believe the best rookie season to me goes to Justin Herbert uh oh yeah he had a phenomenal rookie season I’m I don’t have the notes in front of me um but off the top of my head I believe he had uh eight eight or nine more touchdowns he had twice as many interceptions he had you know um Stout had five interceptions for the season um Justin herbo had 10 but he had almost 10 more no he had 10 total so we’re clear uh he had almost 10 more uh touchdown totals and I believe he had 300 more two to 300 more yards than CJ Stout if I’m not mistaken but if I’m going best rookie season I’m going to go individual and we’re not talking about team we’re talking about individually Justin Herbert now CJ Stout season may have been better than Justin Herbert’s first season Justin Herbert’s first season he was 6 and9 and CJ Stout made it to the playoffs so it may look better for CJ Stout because his team went further but if we’re talking about individual uh accolades and play I’m going to go with um Justin Herbert and then agree with Ma on the tie for CJ and cam as well yeah and then now I got Cam Newton over him with the 700 yards that he rushed for okay as well as those rushing touch Downs his his season was more like um more exciting or electrifying than than Herbert to me just off of Just stat comparisons Justin Herbert had a passer rating of 98.3 with 4,336 yards 31 touchdowns 10 interceptions in 15 games for his rookie season one offensive Rookie of the Year CJ stra started in all 15 completing 319 of 499 pass attempts 4,18 yards 23 touchdowns five interceptions and a pass rating of of 100 and then Cam Newton had 4,051 yards 21 touchdowns and 17 interceptions and he rushed 126 times for 706 yards and 14 touchdowns so numbers 17 17 interceptions is crazy yeah 17 interception I a’t have that in my notes I bet you did intercep 17 interceptions as W so that’s kind of crazy numbers wise like technically Justin Herbert like had the better game but CJ stra just had less interceptions 17 interceptions to 21 touchdowns yeah it’s almost 50 yeah yeah yeah okay so who would you pick who would I pick I’m just not even one our opinion do you think that CJ strout had the best rookie season CJ strout had a better now that I heard the 17 and 7 better than Justin Herbert too though no Justin Herbert then CJ stra St still like also statistically speaking and on paper Justin Herbert had the better rookie season but just the hype around CJ shroud and everything that’s going on especially because he wasn’t even like he was ended up being a lower pick after um Bryce young I just think that CJ Shrout is a pretty strong argument as well that’s why I asked you cuz I knew you would go for the glitz and glamour instead of paying attention that’s exactly why I I did that I mean I mean I did that on purpose purly cuz I knew that you would go for for the shine or the motion or the whatever you want to call it I said watch this watch she go go for the glitter I did the same thing with before you came in about um KY oh yeah we’ll get to that though cuz that’s a good conversation but same thing she did the same thing I know it yeah [ __ ] Justin Herbert numbers I’m going with the got motion motion I’m G come back with a better argument for sure but based off of yeah everything I’m gonna go with CJ sh for now he got more interviews no no I’m just thinking he got more followers I’m just thinking yeah no I’m just thinking in the long run like I H I have to see it’s still pretty early just looking at what CJ shout has done but I don’t know status no more long run the question was rookie no ever be no I just a rookie year but I have to take into account everything and I’m just like that’s what I’m thinking like what’s I get what y’all are saying there’s just multiple factors no you multip the thing about it is you say in Long Run is No rookie in the long run I know I know it makes sense to me y’all it makes sense to me but we did it we I already knew the answer okay but we’ll get to that discussion between Kyrie and Jaylen Bruner and later down the line but right now boom well actually we’re getting into that now Jaylen brunon revealed he truly wanted to stay with the mads but they declined a 4-year $55 million offer for him do you think the Mavs could have benefited more from keeping Brunson um like I said earlier this is what I told her killer I said who would you take Kyrie or Jaylen Brunson and it feels pause like Brunson is having a crazy year because he’s in a bigger Market when it comes to New York City but the numbers are almost compatible you know it doesn’t seem like that cuz Kyrie is not with Nike or he’s not you know in the city every day but they’re having the same that same season and I would have did I would have did exactly what the Mavs did cuz I didn’t for see Jaylen Brunson being what he is now so if it came down to the time where they had to make that that decision and you could have gotten jayen Brunson or you could have gotten Kyrie I don’t think I mean some people may have still picked jayen Brunson but I would have went with Kyrie and I’ll still go with Kyrie today Kyrie is one of my favorite players in the in the NBA period I feel like if he was five five five inches taller he would be Jordan Jordan couldn’t even dribble like that yeah um I know the question but could you read it to me again so I can answer it correctly properly Yeah so basically jayen Brunson revealed he wanted to stay with the Mavs but they declined a four-year 55 million doll offer for him which is what he wanted so do you think the Mavs could have benefited more from keeping Jaylen Brunson for that price yeah for that price what Jaylen Brunson is doing for that price man that’s that’s a hell of a discount yeah the answer is absolutely yes yeah that’s hell of a discount now look even before Jaylen Brunson got to the Knicks I was seeing what he was doing in Dallas that last year when his contract was up and I’m like and I seen him playing villain Nova but you know I didn’t pay I’m not going to sit and act like I had eyes on jayen Bruns from college throughout his NBA NBA career I’ll be sitting here lying to you but I see when he did that last year in Dallas when his contract was up and it looked like he was playing or a like his contract was up you know it’s not like you know it’s two different scenarios so I ain’t gonna throw clay in there but he was playing like his contract was up this is how Clay is supposed to be playing you know what I’m saying so when Dallas didn’t resign him and he got that big contract with the next I’m not going to lie I was sitting there saying and I’m okay s cuz here go s I know here we go new hardness yeah cuz s because I was saying you know I kept I’m not gonna lie I’m like 110 million I don’t know man they get Jaylen Brunson 110 million so you know s it’s calling me do it look like we wasted the money now it looks like it’s good money it looks like y’all spent really good money what I would say is this to answer the question overall though I think that needed to happen because me personally I don’t think Luca respects players even on his own team I think he’s that good to where he doesn’t respect Jaylen Brunson or respect other players not saying he doesn’t think that they’re good basketball players or great NBA players I just think he like come over here I’ve been killing [ __ ] since I was 15 y’all [ __ ] how I come over here and do this to y’all in y’ country and I think it took a player like Kyrie Irving who already had a certain cache or a certain level of respect for him to respect somebody else because it wasn’t like you got to think about it to me personally if you got jayen Brunson I’m talking about prenick Jaylen Brunson and you got Kyrie Irving and you ask Luca who would you rather have Luka Kyrie Kyrie [ __ ] [ __ ] of course I RBI Rabbi Kyrie this what what jayen Brunson to me is doing right now with the Knicks is gaining his respect and showing [ __ ] I’m worth this money yeah that I was asking for and I’m glad I got more than what I was asking for with the Mavericks but right now Jaylen brunson’s earning his respect I don’t think the respect that he has now and what he’s gaining now he had with the maricks and I don’t think Luca uh respected him the way respect to Kyrie so I think all everything that happened need to happen Okay valid point and then Devin Booker said it was harder to get 70 back in my day now everybody gets it how do you feel about what he said and then how the league has changed yeah it’s I I agree first of all with Devin Booker about it was harder to get 70 points back in the days it seemed like now each person what was that last week it seemed like everybody popped up with 70 like Carl Anthony towns um Joel embiid Dame Lillard L and this Donovan Mitchell Donovan Mitchell they was just going crazy but it seemed like back in the days it wasn’t it wasn’t hard for will Chamberlin though CU he had like six games with 70 plus but I I think in this time that we’re in today um the rules are too easy I mean you can’t really foul no without getting thrown out the game you can’t really play aggressive defense so this the the rules right now Adam Silva had been set up for points to be very high you see they just scored 200 in an allstar game so ain’t nobody really playing defense and so I agree with you Booker on that but Booker y’all got to get back to winning man I I was expecting y’all to do better than this um actually to be honest with you Sun kind of climbed back into into it to be considering where they was at when we was talking about it we they kind of actually uh climb back into it I don’t have the stats in front of me but um where they at in in the West Fifth seed yeah they’re in the playoffs right now the playoffs started right now SE F right now they’re in the playoffs put all them together to be fifth but right after the nuggets well I’m just saying as far as as far as where they were adding the begin the season let’s let’s take a look at this nobody expected Minnesota or Oklahoma City to be in the top two so right now Phoenix and I had them right behind the nuggets before the season started which they’re at right now they actually right behind the nuggets the Clippers are ahead of the Nuggets by game uh and Phoenix uh is three games behind Denver but I think it’s considering where we at cuz this thing looked like it was going to fall off the rails at one time earlier this year it was like what the [ __ ] is going on so um yeah this this is good for Phoenix right here even I’m looking at the standards now even uh the Lakers and Golden State has climbed back into the plan actually they’re in the plan right now and that’s that’s one thing about the West look let’s let’s let’s imagine this right I’m maxing you this m you got let’s say Minnesota and Oklahoma City finishes at 1 and two mhm and you got the Lakers and Golden State is seven and eight when the playoffs start that’s not a good that’s not a good all that hard work all that hard work to go home on the first round yeah you got Minnesota and OKC number one and number two it’s going to be the changing of the Gods and then you might potentially have Golden State and the lak is a 78 that would be great open prer it to be that way yeah yeah me too I would really I would to be that way so we can find out what’s all a hype about you guys was number one all season Minnesota playing in La that would be great Minnesota vers La Golden State vers OKC but we already know OKC would beat Golden State you saying that for a definitive fact yeah yeah I don’t know I don’t know even with even with Draymond back I’m just telling you I mean the guy the guy sh he just look like he just look like like I know y’all like this [ __ ] but I’m better than him right now no he he talks [ __ ] he puts it on his gr he lets [ __ ] know but I’m I’m just you know what you know listen I’m they like them young [ __ ] they like them old [ __ ] man is our time man they had their time I’m not disagreeing with you and I think that would be a great first round match up like we were just saying but Sacramento felt that way last year Fox and them [ __ ] felt that way last year with golden state as well yeah and no I agree with you but basketball wise Sacramento doesn’t have the wings span on the on the on the wings to change shots and do all of that and that’s what that’s what OKC has I could see them really sneaking sneaking a chip out you know what I’m saying they got all the pieces to do it but I mean I’m not saying they are but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did because they got the kind of team that you know one of those teams that they grow confidence and they get better as the time goes like they start realizing that we really belong here and I think them beating Golden State were will give them the energy to do it I don’t know if they’ do that against Joker but you know Joker is the only one got a pass to the chip I don’t know if they’ll do that against the Clippers um I’m not disagreeing with golden state they just haven’t been looking right you saying OKC I don’t know if OKC the gold is looking real these days yeah as far as what for George the goat oh the goat said the goat yeah yeah the goat the go looking like goat these days to be honest with you they’re only a half a game Mah OKC OKC could be in third place tomorrow they’re half a game behind uh OKC the Clippers and T I’m a lot of PR and I like that Clipper team I just I just don’t know about playoff James Harden and and I really love his game but history says in the playoffs he get wings from Magic City you know this is true but you also got to realize what I’ll say about this for J har three years out out of his time in Houston Golden State sent him home wasn’t like he’s playing against average team he’s playing against a super team two out of them years Kevin Durant was there as well they sent him home secondly in Houston he had to be the man you don’t have to be the man on this team you know he wasn’t the man in in in uh Philly either but you got tou and you got kawhai Lenard and you got four rings between them two minimum and no if anybody knows championship basketball it’s those two far as James Hon’s concerned we’ll see what happens but I think a lot of pressure is on him off of him because he could be the third option and possibly the fourth depending on how hot Russell Westbrook is that particular day so and no disrespect to James Harden he’s super nice it just history has shown that he fades in the in the playoffs absolutely but this isn’t and I’m you’re absolutely right you know you got to prove that this this is 100% right it’s like it’s like what’s the guy name from um Detroit Lions it’s the same thing who you talking about g g i mean G I wouldn’t compare him to James Haren I wouldn’t say James I’m saying playoffs wise you just know he never got it done in the playoffs neither did Reggie Miller neither did Charles Barkley neither did Patrick euan neither did uh car Malone or Jos Stockton but this is without being first Reggie Miller yeah I’m saying but they didn’t fade in the playoffs James Harton has faded in playoffs James Harton fades in game sevens yeah yeah he he respect and and don’t get it [ __ ] up that’s the most important exactly that’s I was saying so Absolut when you said Reggie Reggie gets crazy to me if you don’t get the job done it doesn’t matter that’s true just me if you you got have 50 and lose by 30 you didn’t get the job done you had like 13 points in yeah in eight seconds he was going crazy absolutely and everybody I named the reason I named them is cuz they’re Hall of famous I didn’t just name no average [ __ ] and James H’s going to be a hall of f yeah he definitely will he’s the famous so that’s why I bought them back to the original question though is yo it’s crazy that [ __ ] say back in my day in Devon book is like 27 years old or 28 years old say yo back in my day what these years must be falling off the calendar a dog yeah [ __ ] said yo back in my day Dev you missed the back in the day when it was treacherous to get 60 [ __ ] it was treacherous [ __ ] to go to try get you know and a lot of people you know younger people get mad when you like oh here they go with Michael Joy here they go with Kobe Bryan yeah and we gotta hit it look you couldn’t get punch across your chest and still get the basket right now today the [ __ ] would want to walk off if he got fouled like that the reason I brought that up is because Michael Jordan was getting beat up so bad his first few years in the playoffs with the Chicago Bulls especially against the Detroit p the Bad Boys uh he just spent a whole summer lifting weights like yeah I’m just gonna lift weights and [ __ ] because I gotta fight through this you know so [ __ ] jump TR and I know I know every six seven years there generation gaps cuz like look when you’re when you’re 10 years old what you were doing when you’re 17 you but you’re not doing what you were doing when you was 10 years old so I get it so Booker may look at somebody like new [ __ ] over there think sweet CU dein Booker has been the leag and it doesn’t even seem like it this is gonna be his ninth year he’s been in since 2015 so it’s like damn Devin Booker’s been the year almost a decade is wild so I get where he’s coming from but uh trust me you missed it bro you you got it good too you got it real good it’s back in 2015 when you came in that’s when was already you couldn’t touch a [ __ ] like that pause yeah okay y’all we’re going to go to break and when we return we will discuss Ryan Clark’s contract with ESPN years cting got you feeling like a option maybe I’m My Own problem bab she tired of here and I don’t know stubborn and me won’t fall oh oh dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking [Music] about welcome back now let’s get into our Underdog fantasy picks of the day tonight the Spurs will play the Kings Underdog fantasy has Darren Fox at five rebounds do you have him higher or lower mace lower wmy is out there he’s not getting no rebounds who they playing the Spurs the Spurs L okay Victor wanyama is at five first quarter points do you have them higher or lower cam lower five first quarter points yeah lower okay and Devon vasil is at 20 and a half points you have him higher or lower ma who Devin vasil who is that he’s on the Spurs he’s like I can’t speak of some I don’t know what you got for him Kaleb lower lower okay download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too so Ryan Clark’s contract with ESPN has expired so he’s technically not even technically he is a broadcasting free agent three days ago he posted that him and ESPN disagreed on terms of a new deal and that’s okay so what do you guys think is next for Ryan Clark and then what are you guys’s General thoughts on ESPN and their relationships with talent because we’ve seen a lot of firings this one seemed more Mutual but what do you guys think about it well I’ll start by saying congratulations Ryan Clark thank you for showing us that everybody don’t have to just bow their knee all the time and you pause you was actually very classy how you bow how you bow your knee um by just taking whatever a [ __ ] offer bow your knee though Mason bow his knee when it’s when it’s a when you get on his knee or you bow with well let me tell you since you since you talking early interrupting me you interrupt me every day all day but G I’m Sor I was asking a question I just was the reason I’m asking this is cuz you have terms that I don’t know all right I didn’t know where your KNE pause is like surrendering to the bigger company because this is like he said the he said it’s the greatest platform it’s the greatest platform until he reach another platform but I what I’m saying is that he he did not bash them he understood that they were offering him something maybe it wasn’t what he wanted and he was okay with saying you know what that’s cool that you think I’m only worth that but I think I’m worth more and I’m willing to take the risk and move forward and I I I want to ask you a question cam yeah how would you feel if you played Sports since you were six years old you played peewee football you played all all through High School junior high school I’m me Middle School college junior college get to the pros end up being a pro bowl and then some and then you go to sports cast and knowing everything about it and two rap [ __ ] just start doing sports and they actually make a lot of money doing it how would you feel [ __ ] you’re not you’re not giving me that check I just saw what they got well let me answer your question real quick um the way you put it I would be highly highly upset the way you just presented it to me I would be on fire because you have I if you’re a regular employee of a major Network who’s dealing with sports um and you just name everything you did you played Sports you went to college for uh broadcasting while you were playing sports so on and so forth and uh you have a lot of knowledge about what you’re talking about because of experience you may not be the best talking but you have experience and you bring that to the table and you see two rap [ __ ] come over and and kind of disrupt what’s going on and you can’t be yourself you have to be a puppet almost so to speak because you’re on the network not we’re not saying Ryan Clark no no I’m just saying in general not definitely not Ryan Clark H no not Ryan Clark um I would be highly upset but where I would disagree with you at is we not just no rap makers that’s that’s the problem know what I’m saying but that is how [ __ ] see itce it yeah they these [ __ ] [ __ ] who are highly intelligent yeah like like I’m talking about if you’re in a room with Einstein we you may not know who’s the smartest in the room if [ __ ] is in the room I’m just telling you you’re dealing with a high IQ type of type of people when we’re dealing with mas and myself a lot of times when I do takes s do segments I actually dumb it down because if you want analytics and you want a corporate answer and you want uh the blue colorway has been going you know where to go to if you want that but if I could be me and be myself and tell you how I really feel that’s what you get but I could go sit in the room and talk sports politics relationships Etc at a high level without cursing without being ignorant without any of that I just want to be me though cursing ignorance all that is really me but don’t think I don’t know how to hit a switch and the reason that uh ma is saying that cuz it’s probably perceived like this like how these rap [ __ ] just look and I don’t I don’t want mace and Shannon sharp to be beefing if it is what it is though but we’re not beefing no no listen where I’m going though I’m just saying and and y’all you know what time it is anyway [ __ ] I don’t want y’all going through a conflict but the words y’all got into you turned on another switch the way nigg was like oh excuse who is that oh them [ __ ] we got to be careful careful you know what I’m saying like that’s that’s that’s what I’m saying cuz you’re sitting there saying man [ __ ] the rappers and [ __ ] gangster Pastor however [ __ ] oh let me let me show you something in an eloquent slash uh Street slash I don’t think you really know me type of way so that’s what makes it dangerous with us because if you think you could say anything on any type of level you playing with [ __ ] who get paid for the last 30 years to play with words yeah yeah you don’t want a word well with a word that would be horrible yeah so that’s why I was just bringing up nothing like I said whatever was sh I hope that [ __ ] die down and move on but I’m just saying when that response came out you know I won’t put any athletes professional athletes under the bus or former athletes or GMS for that matter they said n makes C the eat the [Laughter] huh that’s why I’m not I’m not antagonizing the situation I’m telling you the real texts and phone calls I got because like I said plenty of times before a lot of times uh being that mace left music so early and really didn’t see him outside of church you don’t really know his personality because when he was doing interviews or anything else of videos videos you get three four minutes and you don’t necessarily know somebody’s personality in the 90s or if you do an interview and you’re reading what he says in the vibe magazine or Source magazine whatever you can only read you don’t really get a lot of personality from reading if you do a 10-minute interview on Rap City or whatever um show is out the time so this show gives a lot of people who see Ma’s personality which I knew forever so really it’s not really a shock to me so so a lot of people they like yo I didn’t know mace was that funny or I didn’t know Ma articulate himself that well or I didn’t know Ma see [ __ ] know me I’ve been out here so so when people see that it’s like yeah but that’s what you said when you called me he was like yo come on the show yeah yeah and be yourself yeah no I’m just saying I know already I’m just saying for some people it’s shocking because you go from funny then you go to wisdom then you go to don’t play with it’s it’s you know they know that about me I I’ve been vocal I had beefs no I’m just saying cuz you kind of did what you did I still been out here beefing with [ __ ] arguing all type of [ __ ] 60 Minutes don’t snitch on your neighbor all type of [ __ ] been I’ve been arguing with Bill o rally on his show movies all type of [ __ ] so I’m happy that people get to actually see uh your wisdom your personality your um cander Etc but um yeah more of the story is I want to say that but yeah I’d be pissed off if I was certain people who’s been working and especially what happens is too when you’re in sports they try to point point you to start doing if you don’t really know have a major a minor and don’t know where you want to be they be like get into the broadcasting because this could be a second act for you when you finish playing and so on the slow wol and then Nas just come and snatch that right from you yeah after you put all this work in I have no idea U before I get to that though let’s get to Ryan Clark and I’ll end it with this as far as Ryan Clark is concerned I think Ryan Clark this past year understands his value he has a popular podcast with the pivot not only having a popular podcast he just won a sports Emmy last year mhm and you know you got to realize this yeah so his number went up yeah yesterday’s price is not today’s price you got to realize who’s at ESPN all the people there and I’m not other people won awards but I don’t even think Stephen A Smith W an Emmy you know what I’m saying so Ryan Clark is like holl at me yo you know what I’m saying and I’m not saying that Ryan Clark and does or doesn’t have the personality Stephen A Smith does I like Ryan Clark I like watching him on ESP spin you know it’s few people I don’t like but he’s definitely one of my favorites to watch when I’m watching sports um on ESPN but at the end of the day uh he he has a great uh career after football and he’s also an NFL Super Bowl champion so uh Ryan Clark wherever you go I wish you luck I’m a fan and I’ll defitely be watching back to the last thing I’ll say what I was tapping into before we left about how athletes or not just athletes you go to school for broadcasting and you got people like me and myself who can invest in theirself because we believe in ourself and we say [ __ ] if we need to talk to whoever about sports we’re going to be able to talk to them if we need to just debate amongst ourself we could do that as well if we need to bring in guess every week we could do that as well etc etc but for the people that went to school for this and now they don’t they they interning somewhere where I was going was I was going to ask stat and I don’t want you throw anybody under the bus but what is your classmates lives like compared to yours right now um shout out to the classmates that we were getting out the mud together literally bringing around camera equipment producing our own stuff writing everything it was really really difficult but um just getting your footing out in the broadcast world is extremely difficult um a lot of them are still you know trying to get that first job or honestly left the market because it’s it’s changed like I mean unless you want to start with politics and do Sidelines a lot of them are you know still trying to find different things to do because it’s just really difficult um I think there’s more opportunities for people in school to intern and do um like collaborations with like throughout the school and then actual leagues I’m going to say shout out darl Barnes because he just did something with NBA on TNT which is super difficult to get um but a lot of other people are struggling and have reached out and asked kind of for help and stuff on like how to get that footing but there is no direct path that you can take like there’s no to do this on like to be successful you got to do this you got to do that like you don’t really know until you try things so that’s what I would say no 100% And this and listen we’re we’re privileged and happy that we were able to find you and sort you out shout out to Kev um in Miami for find finding you cuz you’ve been a blessing to the show you bring a lot to the table but I’m just wondering where your PE would be at or not just if you wasn’t here what you would probably be doing right now because you got to realize and I’m not disrespectful I’m totally not being disrespectful not not at all and I want to be super clear because be like cam disrespectful but I seen you post somebody that you went to school with and I believe they’re like GNA be the the social media intern somewhere um one of your former classmates is a dude probably yeah there’s a couple things I but he’s just for I think ESPN if I wasn’t mistaken he’s gonna be the social media intern damn four years of college to be the social media murder intern yeah and because it’s ESP 400,000 huh $400,000 SP for what what you mean oh you’re talking yeah crazy right so that’s that’s what I’m trying to say is that all that to be a intern for social yeah social on your phone you know what I’m saying yeah have to go to college for that exactly and so you know and I know stat is blessed and we’re blessed to have her but you got to realize like you’re probably the most hated amongst all your classmates s you at Allstar Weekend you doing major interviews you’re on a one of the most popular sports shows every day and I know it’s somebody who man like look at [ __ ] treasure she barely even [ __ ] what she barely even [ __ ] went to class that semester somebody that out there yeah so I can imagine man that’s a crazy thing just quick thought because it’s not even just peers it’s people already in the industry like and teachers too and teachers like people are not supportive but it’s okay I like people in the industry like already on linear television or something already established like I remember right before I had my job with it is what it is um I interviewed I’m not even going to say names I interviewed somebody who I’m not saying names cuz she media Med I literally am I can’t help it tell that’s like I like I dipped my toes more and for y’all to see even more personality cuz I think I’ve gotten a lot more comfortable but I I just can’t help it like I’ve learned for four years to be that way but um before you continue the same people who learned what you learned the four years we just talked about where they were at G I know it’s like a have it but I I definitely getting I share a lot more than I would have when I first started like the growth has definitely changed a lot but yeah I remember there was somebody like that I interviewed because I’ve interviewed you know people along the way and they’re like yeah one say you know you’ll have the opportunity to be in camera and get to like a position like me I was like okay like and that’s not something that you want to hear from somebody that you like look up to you know what I’m saying they’re just like yeah one day have you passed that person that yes wow yes so all of you looking for work that’s down in the college hit that up that too yeah definitely looking for but shout out to the people who have supported me joy Taylor Taylor Rooks they have definitely supported me and they’re you know up there in the industry as well so shout out to them for being very supportive and obviously Cam and ma yeah what’s up yeah okay did you have one more thought before we no I just was saying wish Ryan Clark the best and I’m a fan so um yes be looking forward to what he got going on next okay and then before we wrap Jason Tatum believes he can be the next face of the league in an interview he said I feel like it’s mine to take do you guys feel like it’s Jason Tatum’s to take I actually do I actually do because even though he had that horrible um Playoff Series last year I look at it like the same thing happened to Kobe one year right he comes out he shoots these air balls he come back after that and he’s a terror until until he passed away you know and I and shout out to the entire Bryant family bless on that family God prayers be with you and I think I think Tatum has what it take he just got to remember that in tough situations you got to be the alpha you got to be the dog you got to be the one that make sure y’all win it all because you can be the face but if you lose this year with porzingis and that team that you have we’re never going to let you forget it I just want to say that I think he could be Willie that’s another question like yeah he could be he could be you look you got all the intangibles uh he got to do it this year cuz J coming back next year with a Vengeance yeah look I believe if JN didn’t go through all that he might have could have be the yeah I believe because and I don’t want to blame it on being lightskinned CU Steph Curry’s L skin you know what I’m saying but sometime you just look too smooth you know you you know even step Curry gets mad and has attitude and you know a little a little bit of this and Jason Tatum I see him it seems some night that his hair don’t get messed up is from St Louis though he he definitely got pause What It Takes because he from St Louis that don’t mean that you from St Louis Lewis now don’t get it [ __ ] up he he came up under Bradley Bill Bradley Bill used to practice with him um put them under the wing Nelly too shout out to Nelly you know they Nelly used to bring up Bradley Bill Bradley Bill brought up Jason Tatum so and I ain’t gonna sit there and say you ain’t in the hood but at the end of the day you can also be sheltered and I don’t want to sit here and go on his background or how he grew up anything else cuz I don’t know and I don’t want to say wrong thing but what I will say is that um I believe he has everything you need to have 6768 uh he could put up 50 any night he wants to or needs to um but for us as basketball fans we’ve been seeing you do this the last three four years and when you go to the championship and take a step back from the championship and don’t make it Championship is like what’s going on um that’s just my opinion with the Boston Celtics I gave them a pass actually last year for not get to the championship because you got to realize they’re on that second coach in two years um so really third coach if you talk about um my man who just went upstairs to the who took Danny um Angel spot in the front office you gota realiz you gota realize he was their coach then uh homie homie coach of Houston I always can’t pronounce his name correctly so I don’t want to say it you holl that as girl how you don’t remember his name I don’t know I don’t know what see you calling him auk [ __ ] that’s from from San Francisco youen what’s the name come on do your job I ain’t holler I ain’t holler no you DOA you DOA yeah you DOA um and now you’re dealing with the new coach but that’s a lot too like like I said me and ma always talking about our basketball career and everything and we had 76 coaches in three months like when you have no chemistry and you keep changing up [ __ ] sometime it takes into effect but this year I think that Ma is right you need to get it done but not just that uh I’m sitting here because I think he can do it I’m sitting here trying to think but he has to get it done I never see I never SE [ __ ] do this you want to see that you got everybody same way with Wy or at least yeah yeah at least this yeah like you know yeah that’s what I’m saying everybody who’s been the face of the league give you that you know what I’m saying you’ve never seen yeah exactly you know saying so the reason I’m saying that is because I never seen that from him but in the arrow where that [ __ ] may just be okay not to do that thatat knows like like I don’t like it though yeah I’m just saying like and I’m not saying Jason Tatum in in in particular but stat would be cool if [ __ ] get their eyelash ey I didn’t say all that so would you be mad for [ __ ] out his ey say all that you I’m just asking you as a friend would you be mad would you be mad I’m not going to be mad at anything that somebody decides to do but like I’ve not seen that so like I no get their eyebrows done like a dude go get their eyebrows done no [ __ ] got highlights [ __ ] already you you seen that nail yeah yeah Status for all of this she with it yeah I ain’t knocking enough she’s generation a she ain’t a dog she ain’t a door I ain’t going to knock her but answer your question generation is crazy I think that Jason Tatum has all the intangibles to do it will he do it that’s the question okay we’re rooting for you Jason Tatum to do it we we really hope that you do it well that’s all the time we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is like when they doing [Music] them