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did did put him number one did he put him number one yeah yeah I don’t think this episode can go I’m going to stop you that I have to stop you that I don’t want to hear this kaga talk everyone was saying I was crazy and now I’ve agreed with everyone I’m now crazy again it’s it’s remarkable how this keeps happening um last year when everyone had you didn’t put in because you said he doesn’t play enough games I’ve pulled up and found out he played 42 games that season so you couldn’t write it off what do you think about that now no I can’t speak to the state of mind I was in back then yo what is everyone saying welcome back to another episode of the to night pod the whole season was on all our top 10 list and this is now going to be the last one Center Midfield well until the end of the season when we revisit our managers of course and there’s going to be some iconic debates to be had there but joining me today his favorite Center mid got injured and now suddenly his team are flying high and even his boy Jack is bagging goals Ali how has life been without Enzo recently no no let’s not do that Poo’s cooking is finally starting to get ready is it that’s what’s it’s po cooking yeah it’s po it’s poch’s tactical tactical genius that’s getting us here right now okay I don’t believe in coincidences personally but I’m going to store what you just said there poch is tactical genius no problem next up he was on here on last year’s episode so we had to bring him back to verify whether his opinions have changed or perhaps his opinions have become even more outlandish M how you feeling on this fine afternoon uh I’m feeling like some of the Ultras aren’t going to like me uh on this episode but I’m also excited I’m excited to be back and actually talking about football so we’ll see how that goes yeah that’s a rare one from me you’ve been there doing bant bantas now we see the chaos last but not least I was initially going to have YZ because obviously he was here last year with his whole book of Bellingham mistakes if you guys remember but unfortunately his air conditioner has exploded so instead I’ve got a man who judges Center midfielders by their play sty Plus uh Stokes how we feeling you know what honestly when you see my list I may as well have done that so yeah whoever whoever fits Hull gang or whatever’s 9 plus these days that’s who gets in fairs right rules as always are very easy but give me like 30 seconds to explain it in case it’s your first time watching the four of us plus five mods I see mods the names are K 411 Aaron half Alfie and Callum have given their list of the top 10 cids number rates box to box boes whatever you want to call them over this entire season if you put somebody first in your list that’s 10 points second is nine points eight points you get the point so on and so forth until 10th on your list gets them one point it’s based on the same thing as always so football ability consistency stats importance to their team however you want to do it is fine by me and then combine everyone’s L together to get an overall table with our top 10 list along with a bunch of honorable mentions as always feel free to put your list in the comments or the live chat now to see how it Compares without any bias enough waffling let’s get cracking because there are today 30 names so 20 honorable mentions and we start with MAV because 30th Place With One Singular point we have kobby I knew it I knew it was going to be him we we absolutely do um and I don’t really need to talk too much about it I think he lets football do the talking this year if this was Enzo Fernandez he got in for a lot um in previous years I just want to throw that out there Kobe minu was in Argentina’s Midfield he defo be in this list that’s all I’m saying Ali are you hearing what you’re saying about Argentina I I guess scoring a goal good goal against Liverpool was it is more important or a bigger achievement than winning the World Cup CU that’s what got Enzo where where he is today that’s that’s the most interesting interesting change of words I’ve ever heard but uh that’s absolutely not what I said Stokes close to yours um I love him I love him and I I think very highly of him but like I just kind of I didn’t want to too too much propaganda for myself today so so what I’m understand is that Stokes is taking this list very seriously I respect him this is this is the official F list of the world there we go that’s 30th Place also on One Singular Point only Alfie put this fell in I’m sure most of you have not watched him his name is Lee melu he plays for breast in League n so I think they’re like second or third at the time of recording so you know fair play to him I’ve heard he’s decent but uh I’ll be honest I don’t watch that League I don’t watch that LE has he got any Evo STS or he’s got a team of the season coming I think and then obviously few few fantasy cards here and there decent player okay he got good stamina good stamina good links good links yeah all right these next two players have two points and this is where our good friend uh Mr oford joins the party because he has given an Atlanta midfielder obviously some serier prop to Edison that I don’t watch Atlanta but I did watch them smoke Liverpool and In fairness he was pretty good so maybe he’s on to something there uh I’m not even going to ask Ali because Ali probably thought I meant the goalkeeper Ed that’s genuinely he talking about Stokes did you watch that Liverpool game or were you yeah I mean I I wasn’t like I think it was on during the dart I was kind of there or thereabouts but like to be honest I mean he might be he might be good than but can I name nine people who had a much better season I’m sure I can so fair enough my I assume same as Al just no to be honest I agree with what stok said I think I don’t really I don’t watch Atlanta not I don’t really I don’t watch Atlanta I’ll be honest he had a decent game but at the same time I’m not going to sit here and say honestly that I can judge him fair enough you have a player on two points 27th Place please welcome Ai and please say goodbye to MAV because we have Moises kaiso no honestly I I’ll let him talk I’ll let him talk cuz I I love I would love to hear the absolute garbage that comes out of your mouth to justify this selection kiso has been quietly good for a lot of this season he started off shaky and then he’s made a mistake a big mistake against United that’s obviously going to get a spotlight because it’s against United it’s on te why you doing that like it’s not cuz it was it was one mistake in the game he still had a good game that day he’s had a very good season you man saw um against West Ham you saw how brilliant he paid and that is pretty much what he’s been doing for a long time he’s probably been our best midfielder for me so he has to be there and he’s better than the two names we’ve probably been your best midfielder I’m going to stop you there I I have to stop you there I don’t want to hear this Conor gallaga talk I don’t want to hear it we all have you don’t want to hear the you don’t want to hear the player that has literally been better for you this whole season we have at this point when you’re including Moes kaiso in your list and saying that Gaga’s apparently had a good season when everybody here knows he’s your best midfielder then I I don’t know what we’re doing here I if you watch not going to say that if you watch him don’t for the propaganda so what does he do that’s better than what does he bring to us that basically everything here and there he loses the ball 200 times in the game as well what does kaiso do what does kaiso do then kaiso wins the ball back countless amount of times after losing it he probably wins it back after giving it to the guy you watch chse we week out 9 minutes no way I actually do that’s the thing people know I do he is kaiso has had a terrible season and if we go like oh he had a good game against West Ham okay quality then in that case he’s he’s amazing he must be mustard yeah that West Ham team that absolutely got games has he had how many terrible games has he had this season just give me any terrible game he had cuz the United game wasn’t terrible he made a mistake but it wasn’t a terrible what about West Ham West Ham away West Ham away yeah that was his debut know yeah but you asked for a game I’ll give that was that was literally at the start of the season on his deut bring me that my point the thing is I’m I’m not with MAV like he’s been terrible thing in it I’m not I’m not going there and my my bigger issue yeah is you you put someone in top 10 that’s been quietly been decent that’s there’s this is not top 10 quietly been decent or quietly been good this is like top top 10 like you are cold at what you’re doing and also I don’t do Chelsea play over six or I don’t it’s two eight and a 10 okay so I don’t want to hear no excuses then for the other person that you guys say he’s play out of position then yeah who’s that the AR the Argentina one no the EXC apparently he’s being forced to play six that’s he’s he’s been injured this season he’s got he’s got issues that’s that’s his excuse that’s why we’re not seeing him on this list I’m sure all I’m saying is I I hope for once that the comment sections have as much to say about you including kaiso as they used to have about some of the opinions I had that’s all that’s all I’m saying at least with myu I’m laughing and bannering you’re being deadly serious that’s the crazy every single player on my list including myu has had a better season him but fair enough Stokes where are you in this uh Camp are you kaiso Galaga what’s thing is kaiso like I was I was really watching the start and I thought wow this guy’s useless he had a really tough start and it wasn’t just one game it was it was a there was multiple eror is just leading to like big chances stuff like that you know but he has got a lot better I’ll give with to him he has I think he’s good enough but but his season hasn’t been good enough like he is I think he’s a good enough player to reach a top 10 but off this season wasn’t as many games as you might think okay I hope mallister is in your list I hope McAllister’s in your list I really do I hope he’s in yourist not he’s noty he’s not easy exactly there we go insane all right we move on then to 26th Place this is V for by by Cal so he won’t spend too long in that one he has given three points to Warren Z Emory um which fair enough you know I mean I like him considered it but again not quite I’m not watching Uber enough to squeeze him in the list but I like what I see in general a couple iffy decisions in Champions League Knockouts but he young so it’s calm 25th place I know you man ain’t seen this guy it’s half half he loves to send us to the AY he’s given us Joey verman of PSV so uh yeah I guess good luck congrats to you or sorry or whatever I don’t know if you’re good or bad but please don’t shout us yeah Jo verman we’ll move on 24th Alfie is here but I was close to putting this guy in as well despite him being 24th Pascal gross I think I think he a decent one obviously Brighton have been struggling a bit compared to usual because of injuries and whatnot but he if I’m not mistaken I think he’s up there in the assist charts or whatever he must be like top two or three uh last I saw so he got his Germany debut recently so respect to him for that yeah he’s called STS I guess not not enough special cards not enough Star St no yeah one of them ones really if I if I was to make a premier league only list I could I could even really see him breaking my top five so I didn’t want a full premier league list I just you know diversifi makes sense no problems 23rd I have joined a party and only joined by Callum on this one um I checked his numbers to see maybe like is there something that I’m missing why is no one joining me because he’s played 32 games this season and you know I have kaminga would nobody like to join me on kaminga M you’re shaking your head why don’t you want to join me not for me um again I I think I’ve heard kurt0411 say this previously and I hate to uh I don’t know why we call him by his number by the way no one else I think I think I have to align with him on this one I can’t really put put guys like coving or two many in there right now because they’re not constantly playing that position I’d like to let you guys know that 32 of his games were from you know that position and then he has a couple at left back and stuff so just bear that one in mind I think he’s down my Madrid pecking order when I think of people who had a good season and I really like watching him play but yeah I don’t think I’ll include him for this one yeah I had to had some iro bias there because once you see that guy in real life oh he’s fantastic he’s at absolutely fantastic there we go 22nd Place this is a man who I’m almost certain well I know Ali probably has no idea who he is what he plays for we’ll give him a GU Ali 22nd Place Aaron and Alfia voted for Alex Garcia who does he play for have a guess Benfica no never heard of him let me see does m know who does Alex Garcia play for no I didn’t mate Stokes come on save us Stokes come on come on it’s La Li know but I don’t know where yeah yeah yeah yeah go on Jone in it C I only know that cuz of I didn’t want to admit it we know ball on this body yeah respect this we Liga Heritage cold cold yeah Alex Garcia of Jona again I only watch when they’re playing like barcel and stuff so I don’t have enough of a I guess a scope to chat about him but if Aaron and Alie think he’s cold then I guess fair play good luck to him we’ll see scored a screamer the other day by the way just want to throw that out there that’s a beautiful go if you didn’t see it that’s map showing that you’re watching that Liga saw on Twitter no no I saw on tter yeah I saw on TT yeah I did I did go go go 21st Place welcome back Ali Rodrigo deul you’re on your ones not a soul has joined you I like him man I like Atletico Madrid’s Midfield in it and I feel like they’re Dependable trusty and they do their job in they control the game in it so that’s why he’s there I wanted the other one it looks like they’re controlling less games than uh Jona who are watch two spots above them at the moment yeah but Jon are getting pumped by the city group so you know what I mean it’s it’s different play is that how we’re using it yeah fair enough uh I’m going to save your voice there because in 20th Place welcome back Ali once again this is basically Ali honorable mentions cuz Ali I want to know what on Earth and I think I know why it must be One Singular game or maybe two why Gus in your list oh God yeah look yeah I don’t watch the Bundesliga like that but I watched him in that game and I feel like if he plays to that level and when he is at that level he’s he’s there in it like he’s hard which game did you yeah AR one okay yeah so I mean so in the league when they’re calling him terrible they all hate him they want him gone that’s all up to them that’s a matter of I guess their system in there but if we talking about he is up there as the most disliked bu right now I’m making I’m making a mental note as well so we’ve got I’m just thinking of his list about we got kais we’ve got Gesa and we’ve got the I wonder who’s been left out wonder who’s been left out there’s quite a lot of people mate cuz those three names are questionable it’s it’s going to get very interesting is what I can say but atas you know we we shall continue 19th Place we have someone that was in our top 10 list last year but now only Stokes has him as well as Callum one point hedri yeah so obviously obvious obviously he had missed a chunk but I think since he’s been back like you just see why everyone loves him so much like he’s just he’s just quality player isn’t he so he’s been back so in terms of just pure games I thought I think he’s played I I think he’s played a chunk but not not obviously a lot the flashes I see on him on the pitch like he’s just quality player so I had to get him in there Al you had him last year so what happened why is he fell out of your list uh I don’t know I think Barcelona have been a bit like may this season in it so by that I just felt like he didn’t didn’t quite make my my top 10 like nothing I don’t think particular just a quick go I you’re say exactly what I’m about to say team that they’re above athletic in the league and they they went one game no the same game as atletic in the Champions League so I mean you’re thinking about atletic I’m thinking about Chelsea who were down there for the whole season 11 indivual it’s about the individual he thinks Jackson’s a good Striker so I understand that one the Chelsea bias the Rodrigo the pool one has thrown me when his justification for pedri is not that he hasn’t played games it’s that Barcelona has struggled the part it he has play as manyam my biggest rodrig games a bit more consistent than man and if we’re talking about I think importance to their team I feel like he’s a bit more important to atletico’s team than pedri is to BARC like barel can replace him similar players around don’t know about that mfield over there man come on man what we doing I didn’t see the bang the other day he might have been on my I did I did yeah I did your mov like M last year we do it in top 10 center backs this guy said to Rudy go did you not see that volley he scored the weekend I said man I never remember saying that yeah you guys R me for it as well man not WR s back some volle it’s crazy but fair enough uh 18th Place Alie come on down welcome back this time you are joined by is anyone there with you uh one of the mod is with you Aaron he’s giv a mallister six points so he makes 18th Place um you guys were asking as you got mallister now you do that make you happier or and no do you know what it actually does no it genuinely it genuinely warms my heart cuz fair enough consist at least at least you’re consistent uh because both of those should be nowhere near a top 10 you might should know by now Premier League holds a bit more weight of my head is it like they’re doing it not only that but you what you’ve done is and apparently the five most recent games you you done top of of May 2024 is yeah you’ve done the last week you’ve literally done the last two weeks he’s doing golf CRS team in a week or whatever neck um yeah that is Mall 18th Place St was he close were you considering him or yeah no he was to be fair but like I just came up with better names I think on the day fair enough amav I guess yeah no if we if we cut off the first seven months of the season and maybe yeah fair enough in 17th Place this is someone who did have space for and no one else had any space for him Florian vers box to box center mid yeah yeah see my my reasoning behind this one um is very similar to I believe a conversation we had last time uh which was that I didn’t see odard as a box to box and everyone went crazy at me for it um saying that he was and uh in that remit KD also got in there and in that remit vers it now the way he plays gets in there for me because everyone was saying I was crazy and now I’ve agreed with everyone I’m now crazy again it’s it’s remarkable how this keeps happening to me um that people flipflop what is a box to box so if we’re doing a midfielders list he gets in there on ability Alone um and he is having an absolute flyer of a season uh so for me he gets in the list um and has to be in the list of that minute speech I think the last 5 Seconds was correct he’s having a great season I agre with that part that part is spot on yeah comparing it to the old God situation to me it’s a bit strange like you might to say like yeah Messi’s a box to box as well because you know he plays great e plays in the I mean let’s not start the a messy argument guys have guys have played him everywhere across the front line but last time I got destroyed for this sorry no it’s not the same thing because vs even plays in a front free half the time as well like it’s not the same thing you can’t just say another player and say yeah it’s the same scenario it’s not the same when has vers done that even like one time I don’t remember like if he’s either playing as a 10 or he’s playing even like as a let’s say to help with the FIFA terms like left forward or whatever he’s playing in a front three yeah yeah yeah yeah how’s it the same as how’s it the same as like kdb and OD God how’s it the same thing just free roow minute I knew this was gonna I didn’t think it was going to happen this badly I thought a couple people would sneak him in there too but I knew this was going to happen and I was ready for it Stokes what do you think of MAV given vers nine points by the way no no no that part is completely understandable i’ I’d be more concerned if he was like 10 cuz if he’s going to get in there he has to be very high right but it’s just too he’s too advanced guys let let’s buck up because hopefully MF has folden on his list as well then in that case wait and see if we see Fen box I considered it I considered it speaking of Man City 16th Place welcome back our friend Mr C 0411 rodri oh see see what I mean see no one joined him so no no no I know but I’m just saying see this is the problem with this categ that’s that’s more understandable than vers yeah way more understandable is it is he’s doing far more box to box this season than vert has ever in his life up with man I’m sorry I don’t I I cannot accept I cannot accept that I’m willing to our class rri is a DM like everybody else does did put number one did he put him number one yeah yeah great great I’m laughing but I was suppos to doing the same and then I I read the criteria again and whoa whoa whoa let’s let me be a bit strict here he he is most certainly offered a lot more going forward this season 100% yeah but it’s it’s not fair because it’s the way City play like they’re all there they’re all yeah we can’t we can’t put R number one of every list as well cuz we’re going to do tens and we’re going to put Roger again so we can’t we can’t do that but I’m just saying he’s just dming it he’s got all the defensive responsibility like I mean yeah I definitely hear it more than vers just a 100% clarifier Ry is I’m not mad at the rodri one vers I’m quite frustrated by but it’s cool no worries I’m mad at both but here we are well I did it so here else we go because in 15th Place this is a man who definitely should get in there before verts does it’s his own teammate but none of you join me it’s me and half palasio Stokes you were a palasio super fan not long ago what changed you you’ll see you’ll see I made I made a decision um okay uh I’m I’m a fan I like I like him I was trying I I was trying to shy away from doing like two per team three per team because I I was getting that way it was starting to become that way so I just thought you know what let me just let just leave him like I said the start of season um I was a I was you know Avid Leu Watcher yeah so yeah I mean Palos is a really good player M Palos do he get in before vers Maybe no see again if you if you see the rest of my list it will makes sense no dramas it is what it is 15th Place that is palasio now we come up to 14th Place this is a man who last year was in fourth oo but now only one person has him please welcome back Mr Maverick plays Jude Bellingham last year he’s stay consistent to what he’s saying enough no absolutely absolutely he he he’s another one where realistically he doesn’t play box the box for me realistically he is an attacking midfielder um if Real Madrid had the uh Personnel he would be playing there and of ability alone he is the best in the world in that position right now for me so uh I had to put in the list if I’m put in vers there so simple as that I hear that one more so last year everyone had him bar Alfie and obviously M USA and you hate Alfie do you still hate Alfie or uh Hate’s a strong word um I’ve done some reflecting I’ve done some reflecting I’ve mellowed down I’ve calmed down as a person um strong disdain is the word I would use um to describe Alfie and again for those who if you were here last year this is the of course player that had YZ bringing out an a fullon b a catalog where he wrote down Bellingham mistakes for Dortmund so I wonder how Yas must be feeling right now no no AC in his house and Bellingham is scoring week in week out but uh there we go that is Bellingham in 14th Place uh Ali did you consider him a little bit or cuz he’s playing more forward you a football IQ guy I did consider him because I it’s like it’s fine margins in it but I also to think about how many times they’ve actually played in that position this season so I think for that reason yeah it’s a bit of a stretch yeah that is fair enough 13th Place M we’re joining forces it’s me and you alongside Kur and half so I think we’re done all right for this one you know let’s hear it Del plays Douglas Louise okay how’s he uh yeah I understand it a lot of people don’t watch Villa um so I do I genuinely do understand them not including him I understand Ali not putting him he don’t watch football clearly he’s got kiso in there so the fact that he’s got Kao in a list that Douglas L isn’t in is flipping crazy to be honest box to box but it is what it is um sometimes you’ve just got you’ve just got to accept that people don’t watch Villa I understand uh but if you’ve watched us even once this season you understand that this guy is absolutely ridiculous um at he does and uh if he was in a top team guys would be absolutely raving about him especially if he played the way he has this year he’s a phenomenal phenomenal footballer and he should be in this list for everybody that watches the Prem Stokes um this guy if I’m not mistaken he got Evo recently so why was he slipping your mind I don’t know about that but no you got a free card that’s what it was um no so he there was three people that were rotating in my head for 10th Sport and I know 10th may be like a bit disrespectful but yeah um I had him ninth so was it was um he was between him and two others and I at the end of the day went against him I think maybe it might have been some recency bias might have thinking oh Viller started to slip a little bit maybe I’ll just disclude him but yeah he and you know I owe an apology to um to Kurt because okay I remember our we had a playmaking discussion and he was very adamant about Douglas D and he has been he has been a very good playmaker this season so yeah we’re going to that out the video but would I would still wouldn’t quite say play play playmaking qualities I think yeah I’d still I’d still argue what I argued in that video I’m not a fan of apologizing to that guyol he’s he’s going to save that for you and just say yeah how about that one for eyes like remember when you said this it’s just it’s going to get long he got like 16 things wrong since but that one right in 12th Place we’re getting towards our top 10 now uh who voted me stalkes and Aaron no one else he was 17th last year so he’s up five places Frankie dong uh obviously injured recently in the last what three four weeks but I feel like anything good that Barca have done has been mostly down to him and probably let me yal so I had to get him in there you know when pedri is out when they’re chucking anyone in mid feel to be the glue that was I guess helping him out a lot in St you got him the highest out of all of us so yeah I mean it might be some sort of pipe dream one day wanting to come to United you know aot R but he is he’s AIT I think he’s a superstar and I think he’s not even playing how he should be playing and he’s still not doing really well over there Alli don’t like bar it no I thought about it but I feel like these Bon midfielders have been taking turns getting injured in that this season so it’s like none of just play enough for me and it just not enough impact for me m close not close yeah I I can’t lie I’m a massive massive Frankie fan um and I think I’m always living in the hope that he shows what he could be and I I I kind of thought not agree with Ali that would be a little bit too far but um no I I I do um I just don’t think he puts enough run runner games together in the quality that can show I think he’s very lukewarm sometimes didn’t quite make it was a consideration for sure I’m not mad at it I think ability ability gets him high on my list because I hear what you say like when he’s not good as well he can look very mey like I still stand by last year what I was saying I was saying that Champions League in Europa League and the World Cup because we had obviously the World Cup in the middle of the season I said that brother I didn’t like what I saw whatsoever so he didn’t make my list last year but like ability alone I can acknowledge how good he is and obviously he be you know great in the Premier League but alas there we are that is 12th Place uh so our last player that missed out on our top 10 list I’m on my once tier not because I voted for him I’m the only one out the four of us who didn’t vote for him all three of you plus Alfie plus Kurt voted for vitinho oh I’ll explain why I didn’t so that you guys can cook and enjoy whatever I didn’t because it’s not too dissimilar to the mall situation which is first half of the Season that R was not meaty but he was hardly doing anything he looked quite weak they could just elbow him or shoulder bar him and he’s flying but in the last month or two Champions League especially he’s been cooking I I I really like what he’s been doing in the last eight weeks but it’s not a top 10 last eight weeks for me it’s top 10 of this season but yeah stalks I guess yeah your thoughts on that well this was the guy that I was shuffling in and out of my head for um yeah see you scrap Douglas Lise um it’s one of ones where I was just trying to think I was going through I was sifting through and I was thinking who’s who’s impressive from league and obviously I remember those Champions League performances that’s fair Ali you’ve obviously scraped him in as well right below kaiso um thoughts yeah I believe this is first season at PSG isn’t it so I feel like you got to give you got give these new signings just a little bit of grace period didn’t it where you let them off or yeah and then one you got give him a grace period to just get that get used to things settled down a bit and then judge him on on when they got going because now he ability and I didn’t know him before but yeah he’s really he’s really showing he’s about it fair enough M vitinho liking him yeah I like him I think I think PSG are really struggling in that Midfield area um in terms of replacing the likes of veratti um and I and I think obviously they wanted Ugarte to be a lot better than he has been there’s a lot of people who sung his praises and expected him to be the next big thing it’s not quite happened maybe I didn’t see him stink it up at the start of the season so he’s got away with it unlike kaisa who I have Haw eyes on so maybe he has got away with a poor start to the season no that’s fair I won’t say he was thinking I just think he was he was all right like he was nothing special but alas before we get into our top I’m going to quickly read you there are 14 players who were here last year that didn’t make a single Vote or anything this time so I’m going to read them and perhaps one of you guys may have voted I don’t know speaking of farmers League I think it was even in league on I can’t remember in 29th last year we had 29 names uh YZ told us to keep our eyes out for a premier league move for vanen booman and obviously we were saying like who the hell is that he said watch out watch out and Ali found out that he’s 27 years old and YZ was talking like he was was some up and cominging younger I think he’s playing for like Ajax or something now somewhere in AIS so what on to him 28th Tyler gave us Rio hatar of Celtic um cool good luck to him 27th MAV was the only guy with TR Mani we’ve kind of been through that convo again anyway so you know fa 26 was orun kotu um Again by Tyler 24th Enzo lefi League earn player was YZ um again he was saying that uh enoi and vaner boomman are the best two midfielders in League n so I’d like to know what they’re up to nowadays but anyway 23rd Alfie had benas 22nd Alfie had banur 20th uh Aaron had zalinski and I was a Napoli fan back then so I I was hearing zalinski 16th mavin Ali joined forces for Bruno gimar didn’t make anyone list this time you know surprising H I think he’s uh yeah not top 10 this season um similar level to kaiso this year in my opinion I think he’s just done a lot more I think he’s just done a lot more DM work this season that’s why he’s not on my list I think he’s still quality oh more DM work but then kaiso is okay kaiso plays as 28 Jos me in fact like last year I was saying that I didn’t have Bruno G because I felt like the center mids or box to boxes were like Joe Linton and and willik and and them man that’s why I didn’t have Bruno G but them two haven’t even played a single minute this season so I guess Bruno G if you want to put him that’s fine 13th last year only MF had this guy Bruno Fernandez MF do you regret that a little bit or what last year yeah no last year he was having a much better season than this this year this year obviously you’re a massive hater of he that’s why I asked no this year I’m I’m surprised no one’s included him in his in the list because he’s he’s clear of vard apparently and he’s level with kdb so I’m surprised he’s not made the list this is his Worst season at the club and he’s still a best player I firmly believe that it’s just um Second Place second place is Dow so kobby kobby um but yeah I mean like for obvious reasons I’m not going to include United boys this season fair enough five more names uh this one was Ali Tyler and fur put this guy in Alli said he watched seven of his games when minkovich Savage was at Lazio so Ali how many of you watch now minkovich has gone over to Saudi how many you watch yeah no he’s he’s off my scouting list now so I’m not not watching him anymore you did not watch seven last year I was asking how many games you watched he was like like seven seven highlights you got kind highlights I don’t I don’t think Lao showed up on TNT Sports or BT Sports more than six times last season but fair enough uh 11th Place was the very uh controversial one guys like YZ were flexing games from Benfica and Argentina for Enzo Fernandez Ali didn’t put him this time my boy’s been struggling this season with a very serious hernia problem he’s been playing with inject about the first four months about the first four months the first four months of the Season that was the time was taken to get it diagnosed bro it was it was there in it he’s been the first four months as well Chelsea were a bit unsure poino was you know I mean he wasn’t he wasn’t sure what he was doing at that point so you got you got to give us a bit of um you got to give him a bit of allowance in it so he’s not in the list but you know where he’ll be next season top five probably so just wait on okay okay on that note very quickly just say yes or no question stalks does Enzo get in a top 10 yes or no yeah M yes or no yeah no no problem fine I think so did make it me and MAV were there again Napoli Army we had zambo and Giza oh what place he was cold this one I was on my ones but the mods back me SEO foro but guys he’s having a great time in Saudi you guys no trust me trust me alasa just beat and then they beat another team 60 and Seiko for is flying trust me but the last name this one is surprising this guy finished second last year and they didn’t get even one vote this time around yeah what a fall off man this time has come the time waits for nobody so you know there we go fur hat was the uh the one who didn’t have him in his list last time he was explaining that he wasn’t even top 20 in his books which is you know it was interesting but atas we can now get into to our top 10 I’m joined by Stokes Kurt Aaron Alfie and Callum Barella yeah I can’t lie I did this for some fun um enough I’ll be honest uh [Music] I I’ll continue the rest of the reasoning later this guy was just there just in case Scott’s there to Rattle him I hear that one Ali no no Barella for you mate yeah I actually like him in it and I think it’s just cuz I don’t watch into that much cuz obviously into in the league he’s had a good season and I’m a big fan of him but just I just didn’t think of him because I don’t watch into that much yeah I think my STS reluctantly after to just give him couple points here and yeah nothing too serious he’s gone up from 14th last year he’s made the top 10 this time so you know our dear friend will be happy but how many points from uh not crazy Fair Five Points he’s been he’s been reasonable on that one In fairness so yeah fairs he does have spells where you forget he even exists cuz he’s pretty much doing nothing for like a month or so but obviously when inter are flying he hard to deny he’s he’s the uh Lor Martinez of Center Midfield no lar one is worse that brother not it’s not and Frozen on and crion good luck seeing that guy but alas Ninth Place we continue who voted for this guy only Alli out of the four of us gundan Alli chat to us about gundan you were not rating barcel but you’re rating bar yeah cuz he seems to be the constant that’s in there and you know what I mean hundan is a consistent player man he does his job so I’m extremely disappointed in that one you kind have man is there he shows up more I feel like and that’s that’s important I think Ally just sees him in those interviews afterwards looking like really angry hasn’t good enough you know what I like that mentality he saw him at Man City he thought yeah do you know what that’s what alli’s done there is like when Jermaine genus here picks kdb minding a match like every game after I think it was against OT even remember that Chelsea was it in in the fa he gave kdb yeah yeah yeah he gave KD M the match just because of his name so yeah gundan has no business being on this list in my opinion mental no no no Louise it’s the mods I blame the mods it’s the mods it’s what you mean allow Louise talk you can’t talk to certain of these players man he’s good but you were talking about abely you put in vill look poo so let’s not do this grow up here what I find interesting similar level in terms of their level in the Prem what’s Aston Villa’s come yeah I forgot I forgot Brighton are in the Champions League yeah I forgot that not yet bro well you’re not getting there anyway Ali just to confirm you’re not getting yeah that’s C we need a break fair enough just out of Interest though ali um last year when everyone had gundan you didn’t put him because you [Laughter] said he doesn’t play enough games I’ve got in Brackets here because I think someone pulled it up I think it was M actually M pulled up and found out he had played 42 games that season so kundan doesn’t play enough games they could replace him and do his role just as good he couldn’t write it off what do you think about that now no I can’t speak to the state of man that was in back then you know my opinions are good against to change I now realize he’s a very reliable dependable player City Man City treble winners n in fact I told tell you what I like this ofid his issue is he wasn’t available last year apparently played 42 games but this year availability got him in our Midfield struggles this season has shown me the importance of a player like gundan that is gundan in ninth place in eighth place uh MAV the only one here but don’t worry you’re joined by Kur who’s giving this guy a lot of points as you can imagine as well as Aaron and half it is chloo yes fair enough yeah and uh to be honest uh this is where I wanted to get one of the inter Boys in um and I was going should it be Barella or haakan and then I thought I don’t want to put them both in cuz I want to put Mino in for banter uh realistically they both should have made it it’s FM reasons that I love him so much so I just wanted to give him his flowers cuz he’s had a fantastic season um and I like him that’s it that’s pretty much it I have already spent my money giving him flowers on the DM video so I’m not going to be giving him any more flowers putting him in the Box to box one but I understand it I just I see him more as the as the six so you I’m not argue too much on CH glue uh we’ll go then to Seventh Place this one is interesting maravin Ali has this player I don’t have him St hasn’t got him C has him very high up you’ll be surprised that I don’t have him because his name is Declan rice it’s not no no no no no no this is it’s another rogy situation it can’t he’s not he’s not C I specifically afterwards I replied to Kurt saying okay cool I are you sure you understand the criteria just to make sure cuz he obviously he’s got rodri in there he’s got Dean rice in there I just feel like he’s just put midfielders that he likes and that can get forward like rice has played maybe like five six games as like a let’s say box to boox whenever part is available basically which is seems to be our best Midfield but over the course of the Season most of his best games have been him as a six M so I guess you just think he’s that cold that you should get in you pretty much yeah I I genuinely think he’s that good rice is in the top 10 in the world box to boox if he plays there so he gets him B simple as that no dramas last year he was 25th to be fair so he’s gone up high I was saying that I hear it because of those crazy driving runs and I said that perhaps if he comes to the Emirates I’ll get him in my list well I may have lied I didn’t actually get him in my list but like in spirit you know I I manifested that one so no problem we continue we go to sixth place now I have this guy Stokes has this guy Ali hasim as do and Alfie M you do not valde we’ll start with you no Val Verde nope don’t like him or position or no again I think uh I don’t really think he’s got a position is he really a box to boox again like Jude I don’t think the answer is yes I think he’s a very very good footballer um not Stokes if I was to say that Val Verde might arguably be one of the most boxto boox players on this earth right now would you agree with me yeah I mean that this season anyway I know previous Seasons they had him out on the right doing sorts I think probably has done that a few times this season as well but he has yeah uh realistically he play 40 games in central Midfield this season by the way in the way they’ve led up that like more see narrow system he’s just he’s just been a complete box to Bo and he’s been good and he’s obviously got so much competition and he’s had his spot just nailed down all year so just got to give it to him yeah Alli you clearly like Val they given how many points you given him right so yeah man he’s he’s a brilliant mix of like tenacity and talent and ability in it like he can genuinely do it defensively and going forward he’s got end product so I think in that position as a box to box I think he’s one of the best funny enough last year M didn’t have him either again um he was talking about Bruno Fernandez and stuff but no space for Val ever so maybe we bu a bit of a bit of a Val hater no I no it’s not I I I don’t hate him I really don’t hate him um fair enough I just think yeah I don’t know I think a lot of people like him a lot that don’t watch him a lot I’m not convinced on him fully Douglas L was described as phenomenal by the way yes he was yeah fair enough and he and he would and he would be phenomenal in that Real Madrid team if he played there as well but better than is yeah I don’t think he gets into that M of course he don’t he don’t even make that bench man let’s be real when they go like true many and everyone yeah all the best right no because he can’t run right from the right mid right hand side like Val does but fifth place this is a man who was 18th Last year he’s gone up the ranks although not according to MAV or Ali who both don’t have him I have him Stokes has him Aaron has him Alfie and Callum it is Bernardo Silva I’m going to assume MAV has the same thing again he doesn’t care about what position or whatever this is not box to box but alli’s just on a face as if to say I’ve messed up here yeah man I think now’s a good time to admit I went out last night woke up a bit late and had to put together a list relatively I actually had him in my he’s one of the first names that came up in my head and then I must have just forgotten him I’m sorry Bernardo for not getting you a bit higher on this list so we getting kaiso out no no no we would have taken some we would have taken vtina out maybe mallister okay fascinating someone else who else did you stick he takes the higher people out actually g gka g that that the one that was questionable B no no Bernard no okay fair enough is that as in as a player in general or Midfield wise just a quick one do do you like him I like him I do like him I don’t know what position he plays this is going to be surprise some people in fourth place two people on this panel put this guy number one so already you know it’s not a total n because Kurt put rodri with 10 points anyway um this man was first last year with the lowest total ever Kevin De bruy Stokes what do you think about kdb being fourth that’s fine that’s fine I think he’s been one of his worst seasons just purely because of the injury um and a few games as well the way yeah he had a few but like you got you got to say that he’s he’s had a few games where I’m just like wow like he’s still here and you can stack him next to all these players and he’s just by far the best he is my number one yeah defensively as well OB he’s played two games in central Midfield this season what do you think about that Ali as you put him number one as well yeah I think obviously he hasn’t played as many games this season and it’s hard to categorize with Man City system where he’s actually that’s the problem yeah yeah but I think if you’re looking at when he’s fit fully fit and available and playing at his you know full fitness I think he’s the best in I mean in that position has has he been at this season because he came back at new car so he was cooking and then after that they’ve been a bit like no whenever he’s whenever he’s had a few shaky games when he’s just come back but well I mean he’s been out since day one so there was no beforehand to rate it off Evo if it’s this season I’m sorry I get why KB was number one last year but what’s he doing like I mean he’s had he’s had he’s had like a a handful man of match fantastic games this season since he came back obviously had a few Disappearing Acts well it’s a combo in it it’s it’s the position thing it’s the lack of games as well this season and then in that lack of games it’s not as though they were all standout games when he came back and he was firing either that’s why I didn’t have him but I guess fair enough MAV has got him in but again I guess put him a little bit lower than you guys MAV is yours injuries or is yours no again this is this is where I find remarkable um and this is why I was I I was wait I knew we were going to get to this position because I feel like again positional wise if a few other guys don’t fit I’m not sure kdb fits in it either he plays a very very similar role to a Jude um you know and a verse a little bit little bit I said a little bit I am saying a little B I agree I’m saying a little bit I’m not I didn’t say a lot I did say a little bit that’s why I just find box to box really really hard to Define these days that’s it that’s fair I don’t have him C hasn’t got him hasn’t got him and NIS Alfie so we’ll go to our bronze medalist this person was sixth place last year he’s G up by three but one thing has remained consistent the only two guys to air him are Ali and Alfie wonder why who it is now Granite Jaa Ali come on man bro he’s left all right research showed that he was playing a lot of DM so uh I don’t know where you’ve researched that one mate because games as a central midfielder if you watch and he’s scored goals as well because why he’s getting forward in addition so so so so you include kaiso but you don’t include Jacko I see kaiso playing as an a I don’t see Jack good choice and you see Jaa playing I don’t see Jaa because I don’t watch l his computer so when I’m when I’m looking at you know I mean my if I don’t have the itex to do it I have to go back to my next best resource I just I just feel like you tried to cover up the fact that you uh don’t actually see him play um no no I’ll put my hands up and I don’t watch like that okay that’s first website I’ve been to has in 50 appearances in the middle and nine in DM so I like that’s really really interesting fair enough nice one I mean him a lot of points I can’t I put him second I just think it’s about time I just give this guy some flowers man cuz last year I put him obviously people were not really happy that I was doing that because why he was an Arsenal player although everyone had him except Alli um he was just saying I’m not even a hater I’m just astonished how everyone has him and thinks he’s good see that he’s clearly just gone off what he thought last year and just still hates him which is yeah it’s fine he’s crushed it on your head enough times I can’t blame you too tough St got him quite low down he want to push him up a little bit bit as a a little little Arsenal hatred snuck in maybe um he’s been Invincible I don’t I don’t think he’s as talented as mother guys I just think he’s had a really good season so obviously I went more for talent this time around so yeah enough no I I think the opposite I can’t lie I’ve done a full 360 on this guy um going this is your favorite phrase here we need to iron it out of your game 360 means you’re back same point 180 is the yeah 360 means to turn around though so I’ve turned around I know I know I know but you can look at it both ways but it’s to turn around that’s I’ve done a full circle on him which is also the other saying if you wanted to know which is 360 but anyway I did say I don’t think he’s got much more than passion um he proved me wrong at Arsenal and he’s proven me wrong again at by Leverkusen because he is an absolutely Sensational football player um and I have to say I’m sorry that I thought it was just passion um and him going to a whole another system and a whole another league has showed me I was wrong and I just yeah he is an incredible footb simple as that Ali we want to take this moment to apologize as well can I just say transfer marks positions games defensive midfielder for Central midfield if they’re wrong seen brother our eyes man we have seen his brother but okay no apolog we’ll see you next year for the problem we go to our top two this one is quite surprising actually because in second place place with 54 points it’s a man who was 19th last year and MAV and Ali don’t have him they’re joined together as the only two without Tony Crow yeah I bugged I completely forgot um and the the funny thing is when you said about Val Verde I was going to say about Cruz being the star man for me and at that point I realized that we might get here and I hope that I hope that we didn’t so he was was last year he just randomly no that’s what I’m saying he’s even come back into the German setup and is obviously playing well there again after stinking up in the German setup previously so I don’t know what um anti-aging juice he’s taken but he’s taken the one Modric was on last year um so maybe he drops off a cliff next year after the side effects like MRI has ali um Cruz kaiso no obviously I’m a big fan of Cruz but cuz he’s a player that I know yeah I didn’t do any research to what positions he’s played this season and on paper what it is and in my head he just didn’t register as a box to box I just thought he a bit more now that he’s a ask yeah go can I just ask as a Madrid Watcher so how did you come to Valverde being in your team but not Kus out of interest cuz that’s just the kind of player of Val is bro he’s box to box and Cruz and Cruz isn’t from the game don’t see him you just don’t see him bombing he’s not getting enough pace for Al he’s not like I said I just wanted you you were quite loud at me with valde as someone who I know who watches Madrid far than um yeah so like I said the guy that’s been playing Wing a little bit more cuz he’s far when he playing on the wing don’t count that that’s separate we’re not going to judge him on what he’s doing we’re hearing two men who didn’t put cross anyway arguing so no no I’m just I just wanted to that’s why I hate being left alone with mavier cuz he always throws me on the bus regardless even though he’s there with me I just wanted to I just wanted to I said I I Ain got him but mine’s a valid reason you have it man I don’t think this episode can go out because we’ve we had someone that’s made the top 10 list and put a German Center mid it’s not C it’s Garin and hey the list all together they balance each other around and it ends up looking off doesn’t you’re you’re going to see the list in about two minutes when I read out the number one or whatever you’re going to see everyone’s list very quickly uh and alli’s list is wow this you might have voted to ban him I can’t lie you suspension or something yellow cards in first place surprising cuz none of us had him number one except to half but everyone does have him either second or in my Cas such a lame way to win it is it nobody put you first but you got there by Def everyone put somewh I think I think because everyone apart funny enough every single person has him top two or three except Kur who’s not voted for him at all so in first place Martin erard so I I would love to know what he’s thinking at the moment obviously maybe we can ask him on stream or something I mean the reason why I didn’t put him top two is because again you know I’m a very unbiased and sensible individual first three or four months was a bit but from December onwards or let’s say January I’d put him number one if it was based on like this calendar year so that’s why I’ve said you know what I’ll give you a third place last year I was screaming at like Marin Ali about how this guy does so much defensive work and pressing and everything and they weren’t trying to hear me but I think now everyone sees that he is like the first Defender if you will at the at the front even the head of hav or Jesus or whoever’s playing as a as a nine so GG to him mavi starting to come around to odard as a CID box to box I absolutely love him um I think I was one of his biggest fans before most Arsenal people he does have his uh lukewarm patches every now and then and the start of the season was one of those so Alli you’ve watched him dunk on your head enough times real quick uh you a big fan of obviously his goals from that kind of area like when he cooked Enzo twice previously as well I wouldn’t call myself a big fan um but uh I can see his Effectiveness yeah I can respect it I still do think he’s more of a 10 but he’s effective in that age he’s not playing as a yeah I don’t want to say too much good things about look lastly we with you then OD God you got him you got him second second very poetic I think is that’s that’s where he’ll finish that’s um there is a question mark I think in the ultimate big fixtures but other than that yeah Talent very talented player like him a lot all Trafford we’re ready oh no that’s not a big game what you’re talking about for you guys fair enough all right then uh that is our top 10 list I’ll read it out again and right now you’re going to see every list on screen I might even tell yazer make Ali’s graphic make it like a different color so you can to look at it our combined one however is in 10th Place Barella ninth gundan I don’t know how he’s got here but fair enough eighth chogo seventh rice sixth valde fifth Bernard Silva fourth kdb third Jacka second cross and first odard hopefully you might enjoy that that was uh a lot of fun some fascinating choices there let us know who had the worst takes and uh put your list in the comments like follow these guys on their socials the usual stuff subscribe we’ll be back next week maybe a team of the season draft perhaps it’s been a while since we did a little draft and the week after that we’ll do our top 10 managers of the season so have a wonderful week enjoy in a bit BOS