Patrick Mahomes joins show, Rodgers & Purdy expectations, Impressed by Celtics win over Pacers?

(00:00) Impressed by the Celtics comeback win over Pacers? Worried about Jayson Tatum? Who is tonight more important for: Timberwolves or Mavericks?
(21:14) Aaron Rodgers attends Jets first day of OTAs. Expectations for him and the Jets this season?
(31:43) Can the Dolphins change their cold weather reputation?
(37:52) Will Brock Purdy take a step up next season?
(45:50) Justin Fields on Russell Wilson and Steelers: “Don’t have the mindset of me just sitting all year”
(53:34) Patrick Mahomes joins the show. Gives his thoughts on Nick’s NBA Tiers
(1:05:18) Mavs vs Timberwolves Game 1: who wins?

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live from New York it’s a show with a very special guest coming on in approximately 1 hour it’s first things first today not much of a cliffhanger I’m just going to give it to you Super Bowl champions and yes Kansas City Royals fan Patrick Mahomes joins the show one hour we’re going to talk so much Bobby Whit Jr too much oh my goodness and we like we were the ones saying we wanted to do more baseball me and I haven’t heard this much Rose talk since George BR well oh I’m sorry you’re not around in the back World Series 145 saberhagen meanwhile aaro has moved from lighting up Podcast to lighting up the practice field is an MVP season on the horizon oh he’s got a medicine ball and everything I didn’t know if he could jump and pro wrong great and finally the best segment in all sports it’s NBA tiar alongside Chris cardum Kevin Wilds Nick are there any surprises on this abrid tear I think you should do you know what I still think you should tear all the teams well I’m going to tear all the teams but we have a scheduling conflict we’re double book we have Patrick Mahomes during tears and we’re not bumping tears no he can join for Tears he’s going to join for tears and if we have time to ask him some questions we will otherwise he’s playing the Greg Jennings role for Tears we start with a Celtics escape a few costly turnovers by the Pacers gave the Celtics a chance and Jaylen Brown capitalized from the corner send the game into overtime via a double Bang from Mike Green I’m surprised he broke that out it was double as Rob BR said double bang inflation too much lately wow wow political Mike I got your back Celtics win by five here’s Jaylen Brown postgame the game is not over until the final whistle um the F the final buzzer sounds um and that was a good example of that you know we was able to turn him over a little bit towards the end um one with halber on the sideline and I was able to get the deflection off of seak that just extended the game and it’s not over till it’s over and um we was found a way to win this game at the very end Brew are you impressed with the Celtics not at all really I should be impressed one they were so lucky and fortunate now they did keep trying but they were fortunate to win this game look first of all they have five days rest Indiana coming off a wildly emotional game at Madison Square Garden had one day rest okay and on top of that everybody’s been talking about how bad I don’t say bad you guys are at home but how middling you are 15 and 14 over the last three post Seasons already lost a play a home game in each of the last two rounds against okay so so people been talking about how bad you are at home so you definitely want to get that you know erase that and here you are you should have lost to a team that is so young they have no idea what it’s like to be on this stage and if it weren’t for some major gavs at the end of the game by the Pacers they’ be down 01 here’s the first Tyrese halberton is great and he was great last night until the end what he just lost the ball that can’t happen I mean he just lost the ball and there were other turnovers yes there were other turnovers he made late he had five in the last 5 and 1 half minutes including overtime and then I want to see after this the shot by Brown credit Brown great shot but the Pacers why didn’t they switch oh here’s another turn there’s another turnover yeah okay so they should have switched we we can really see it there but at that point in the game why aren’t you just switching everything and and and look covered could he have tried yeah but you if they had switched TJ McConnell could have denied Jaylen the ball in the corner and maybe Jaylen just out of instinct cuts to the basket so you get a two-point layup no way is he getting a two he’s I’m just saying I think McConnell could have denied him if they would have switched he could have got in front of Jaylen so you couldn’t have got that pass that’s a tough pass from the Baseline and even if they if he does get the pass if McConnell’s there like I disagreed with the broadcast when the broadcast was saying I know JJ and LeBron have been talking a lot about fouling up three and in general I agree with that philosophy but because seak was late he didn’t have an opportunity to foul but if McConnell’s there you can foul on the catch you can foul on the catch and you’re even allowed to run through the pass foul him like that before he even has the ball I I understood why SE yakum didn’t foul cuz he was late and ground it’s arguable I get cuz brown kind of you know so maybe you could have but it’s a risk no problem at that but if they switch I agree with you but it was to listen I I am not Mr Big Market I the I’m from the Midwest I there’s a lot of teams that I publicly root for that are not on the coasts so this is not about Indiana’s Market size but Pacers fans this is why we can’t take you seriously wow this is why sorry you disagree Brew this is you just mean the fact that they collapsed yes I mean games like this is why even though none of us I know some people think the Celtics are a great team I don’t think any of us on this table think they’re as good as their or the record suggests and we did not spend a second contemplating the Pacers winning this series because this was a game that Boston was dying to give to you that Boston would take a big lead and then stop playing that they they played into your hands defensively Al Horford God love him oldest player in the playoffs playing well but if if Al Horford’s taking 123s you’re doing what the Pacers want you and so and Indiana you had a fivepoint lead with a minute and a half left you had a three-point lead with the ball with 30 under 30 seconds left twice you had it twice once with 30 once with 10 and the turnovers were your all-nba is Guy dribbles the ball off his knee and you can’t get a ball inbounded they were literally the type of turnovers that High School junior high they had a timeout left there too they could call the time and look Rick car I think we all understand he’s a really good coach but these plays and he owned it I’ll give him credit these are on him though again why aren’t you switching on the last play by Jaylen Brown and why don’t you have them call a timeout right there so you don’t have to you know throw that turnover do you want to give any credit to the Pacers that we thought that they were going to cool down offensively because they were so hot Pacers this postseason offensive rating of 121 shooting 51% from the field 38% from three and everything you’re like well maybe that uh hot shooting Knicks game kind of you know cooked the books a little bit but Josh said game one at the sell they still shot 53.5% yesterday 67% game seven do you expect this to continue I I do give him credit like the Pacers have impressed me this postseason um I I picked Boston in six but largely cuz I thought Boston might get Lac ofical and stuff but Indiana plays well they play hard their style of play is the same as Boston as far as the pace they were number one and two in the league in Pace yeah so that but that plays I think that’s what Indiana wants you’re going to run with you’re G to play fast with us I think that favors the Pacers and if I’m of of each of these teams if I was a player on either team I would feel better if I’m a Pacer this morning now I’m ticked off that we gave up the game I I understand that but now if there was any doubt they’re the young team they haven’t been this far you’re facing a team that’s been in six Conference Finals in the last eight years and is the best record in the league by a mile now they know they went to bed last night like man we we can not only play with them we can beat them so I I think now Boston is going to have its hands full I I I totally disagree I think that now if you’re the Pacers you’re like all right so we have to beat them five times in seven games we’re not going to they’re going to lose game two and they’re going to it best case scenario be down 3-1 when the next game’s played in Boston like I just no I think the series ended last night I now I don’t think the Pacers had more than a punchers chance going into it but last night was such a crushing loss because it would be one thing if Boston made great plays down the stretch now Jaylen made a very tough shot and I would give him credit for that but the the Pacers made some mistakes multiple mistakes in the final couple minutes that they didn’t get punished for because Jason Tatum who I know we’re talk about couldn’t make a shot like they but wouldn’t you rather be like we gave them the game rather than they just beat us I I I think emotionally I I I just think they’re going to be down 02 in a couple days and the series is over okay I kind of agree with both of you there to be honest with you 36 points rebounds Champion wild is done making exactly I thought you guys good predictions 36 and 12 for Tatum in the win so why did his game feel a little bit off well here he is postgame I think just mentally understanding that you know i’ I’ve had spurts throughout big games where I didn’t hit shots to shoot the ball well uh but it’s as simple as just you know believing that the next one is going in and uh I always feel like I’m just I’m one make away you know from from being hot or being in a great Rhythm okay here’s how he got to 36 two for seven in the fourth he was 0 for four in the final 930 of the fourth also just eye testwise it’s kind of like here you go Derek white yeah here you go Jaylen Brown why don’t you take care late late yeah so do you feel better or worse about Tatum yeah I mean it’s worse I mean you you know what it reminded me of a bit people kind of memory hold this game but game six last year round two against Philly Philly’s up 3-2 it’s after the two great Harden games and Tatum started that game one for 14 and Philly couldn’t take control couldn’t create separation despite that and then the final three minutes Tatum hit four threes finished five for 21 Boston wins the game and it was to me it was similar to last night which is Tatum was miserable in that fourth quarter and then wasn’t good at the start of overtime and then about halfway through overtime all of a sudden right got the end one hit a three got a couple more free throws and all of a sudden is eight quick points in overtime and the Celtics win and I don’t think he’s the hero cuz Jaylen Brown is the hero in my opinion of the game but he was the best guy in the overtime but it is there are too many moments like this where it just feels like the Celtics don’t have that guy and this is something that Celtics fans kill our friend Colin coward for cuz he’s been saying it all year they is there is no shame in being the seventh or eighth best player in the sport the problem is all of NBA history tells us if you’re the seventh or eighth best player in the sport you’re probably not going to win a title now the Celtics are trying to overcome that but that’s the the issue is once you get typically to this round this year it’s not the case for them somebody that’s in that five or six best players is against on the other side of the court and next round it will be so no I don’t feel better about Jason Tatum’s game yeah I I I think to your point Nick now and I have not really questioned this before cuz I guess his Youth and he’s still only 26 so maybe he’ll grow and improve but now I think you really have to question it can he be the best player on a championship team I mean there are aberration when chony bips and the Detroit Pistons and Gus Williams as you showed La yesterday and the Sonic Super Sonics back in 1979 but generally you know you need to be a great player an alltime great to lead your team so I think that is up for question now look maybe he’ll answer that this year but right now that’s got to be a question let me just say this though in in on behalf of Jason Tatum this is what we’re ripping 36 points game high 12 rebounds team High and a game high plus 20 and I get it in the fourth quarter he missed some some bad shots I don’t I’m tired of seeing the fade away when you don’t need to fade like coaches would say go strong to the hoop with your momentum fade away is a great shot but you don’t always have to fade okay but beyond that get I want to give him credit cuz we know what his challenge has been right clutch last night n it wasn’t like that game was over when he scored eight points in the last minute 12 all right eight I mean it wasn’t over they were down that layup we showed where he got fouled that gave them the lead they went on a 125 Game ending run he had eight of the point yes but the but when if not for the Pacers self- ulating his clutch numbers from last night are 0 for three in the final 90 seconds okay but then you have to regroup and say okay I’ve been play I’ve been missing shots again I’m not trying to say he was great and everybody’s wrong about this but I’m saying it what we can’t Overlook what he did at the end of that game only eight asss so I me yeah I think five assists three steals no blocks so I I think I’m doing that match might have can I real quick while because I think this is what you were alluding to when you were like he didn’t feel comfortable this was in overtime this turnover where he’s trying to get out this looks like me I mean it was just like somebody I don’t uh that it just doesn’t feel like the guy and the point that I and this this is where it sounds odd but if you just like go back decades at a time and say okay seventh or eighth best guy you know what I mean of any given moment like 20 years ago that probably was Chris Weber with the Kings that’s a great player that’s a great all NBA level player probably been high right 30 years ago was it Drexler with the Blazers like a great player was the was the best player on a team that made two finals but how did he win his championship he got with a better player 40 years ago was it Bernard King or whomever like in that pre-injury in that range the point right or Ying maybe 30 years ago right like this is those are great guys we all know their names 30 and 40 years later but in this league man if you don’t have somebody who is a guaranteed statue in front of the Arena post retirement you’re probably not winning a title with him like there’s a few exceptions but if you don’t have a stat a guaranteed statue outside of the Arena you probably need someone better to win the title now I say all that they’re going to be the favorites in the finals and so but I that’s just and so last night didn’t make he’s also still young I mean it doesn’t SP that way but he is Young he’s 26 I know but we’ve got he’s a year older than Luca okay but if Luca’s young and aunt’s young if you’re the oldest of the young that’s why I said it they it’s sbob for them period they have got to win it and if they don’t win this series then needs to be a new coach if they don’t win this series oh this series well there will be they’re going to they’re going to you act like I’m tripping well first of all I’m upset that you brought es boob into the NBA you just kind of did it and we expected us agrees with me great trans wild can you let Brew EV shine you you brew privately you know what he said to me he was like we need we got to stop saying asto we have to take it off the air now you’re trying to kill us Bob you’re try to kill on carton show today yeah exactly Greg or he said sbob keep going and and don’t you dare touch my Versace Ro it better not be this killed you killed lab laab never caught on I go you have to push it over to the West game one tonight at 8:30 wolves favored by 4 and A2 Minnesota won both of their game ones against Phoenix and the Mavs have lost both of their game ones against the Clippers in OKC but they meet tonight so who is game one more important for well definitely Minnesota oh wow we agree no question I mean first of all you’re at home all right secondly I don’t even know what the favor are they should be theor by four and a half in the so you’re the favorite in the series all right I would think whether I know the numbers or not they should be the favorites right and then you know Dallas 0 and five in game ones under Jason kid that’s their last five game ones they come back to win four of those Series so if Dallas loses they’re going to be fine now all that said Nick and I think you guys have to agree with this Minnesota is shown if they lose tonight I think you’d be crazy to write them off I mean they showed you against Denver like you they are not into negative momentum they will not succumb to negative momentum so if Dallas were to win the first two I don’t think you could just say it’s over because we saw what they did against Denver it would be somewhat Bleak I mean obviously they’d have everything going for him but still this team who would have thought they would have come back from down 3-2 all right so but all that said yeah it’s more important for I think you the the reasons you said is why I agree Luca loses game one man even prej kid he I think Luca’s won one there’s been one series the Mavs of one game one since he’s been there and it’s the game one he missed I think that’s accurate the when he was out injured against Utah uh they this right Brunson play great typically they don’t win game one Minnesota’s at home and and this is where like there was a really dumb really dumb meme going around the internet yesterday which was a picture of Kyrie and LeBron and a picture of Kyrie and Luca and it was like Kyrie didn’t want to follow him but is fine following him I wonder what changed and the is seven years man were they trying to make that I have no idea what they were trying to make it whatever it was was stupid but the point is the guy grew up and Kyrie Irving is a different person than he was seven years ago I think he’s a different person than he was two years ago and so I say the reason I say that is for this I don’t think Kyrie’s going to let them get emotionally unsettled by a loss I think Kyrie Irving is the Steady Hand of this team and it is I I have been as vocal of a Kyrie critic of his you know post Cavs Journey as anybody I am the one who last year picked the Mavs to win the title and then when they got Kyrie said well now they can’t because I thought he was so antithetical to winning he has been a great leader this year and because Luca is so emotionally combustible I think he is a great wingman for that for the other players on the team and so I’m not worried about if the Mavs lose game one you know that where their head’s going to be at because Kyrie is going to be able to credibly talk about being down 3-1 talk about the length of the series those things so that’s where I think I I think it’s definitely more important for Minnesota and to make it clear that they didn’t just win their Championship the thing with Minnesota is you want you’re always worry when you have that huge victory that a lot of people thought was impossible that no one could beat him in seven game series all those things that they don’t have a championship let down it’s not what the moment of truth I’m not ready yet you won’t do a pick I’m not ready yet when do you the series starts tonight this is you guys at the bar be like hey man you need to get back out there not ready yet guys not ready yet well that she’s cute you’ll like her I’m not ready you like her I’m not I’m not ready Rogers is back and focused at Jets practice through three touchdowns can you believe that wow so much for that Jets defense next on FS1 that’s not good the defense getting lit up they miss safy it’s Aaron Rogers there let us get Rogers here who’s the back up again coming have 36 minutes Patrick Mahomes joins the show and we will try to talk about football and Nick will try to derail the segment to talk about the Royals oh I’m sorry he he owns the team and they’re about to be in person with job to Ser the a sport not doing local TV in Kansas City I can’t wait to talk to Pat oh Greg’s mad GRE is mad we don’t have the five box capability we could do it oh what wow Jets OTAs Sal say and Aaron Rogers reportedly can do everything and the highlights so far back it up he can jump with a medicine ball he’s throwing touchdowns 13 to 15 for three touchdowns against that vaunted Jets defense you can’t do that what you can’t if he had played poorly you’d we would have reported it and now he I’m being fair he’s playing well and I’m reporting it but you’re making it about the defense being overrated three touchdowns gner out there holding out dust’s yelling at me here’s Rogers you said earlier there’s pressure on all of us all of us yeah why do you say there’s pressure on you well I think if uh if I don’t do what I know I’m capable of doing we’re all probably going to be out of here so I like that kind of pressure though reporters are like me uh Greg your reaction look he just truth number one put the league on notice like Aaron this version of Aaron Rogers and it’s not about his skill set can he can he still play will he be old and all the things the idea that he will stand 10 toes down and stand and own the expectations that not only he has for himself but that everyone has for him in this team I love it because the posture that he took last year well let’s just listen to it this is this is Aaron Rogers last year when he came over I think I can just fit in perfectly I’m not here to be a savior of any kind num here to be uh the best quarterback I can be to lead authentically and to inspire the guys around me good take that was Aaron Rogers trying to temper expectations last year even though everyone knew the reason why you were brought over here you are the reason you are the missing piece to what we feel like is a in your words an sbob T there we go and so when I look at Aaron Rogers right now and I know everybody’s like oh he’s old but and he’s coming off injury I said all those things however we don’t need and they don’t need Aaron roders to be MVP version of Aaron Rodgers what they need him to be is more than what what they got and have had in the past they will get that out of Aaron Rogers my point they will get that out of Aaron Rogers and the fact that he is being truthful about what the situation is saying it’s on me this is solely on me he’s not passing the buck he’s not dismissing it he’s clearly stating the obvious of why this coaching staff still has a job and why this team is configured the way they are because it’s on me the expectations I’m 10 toes down I own it I shoulder it we’re going to get this done I I agree and and that was a great clip from last year with Douglas and Salah but I when I started thinking ah the Jets might be pretty good was when Rogers with his opening press conferences before that with Sala and those guys when he was talking about that trophy looks lonely like he was he was embracing kind of the pressure even last year and so look I know he’s 40 years old we all have to admit it it’s not automatic and most players it won’t be the case but we do have to admit that today guys can play be better longer all right so so it wouldn’t be shocking if at 40 years old he goes out there and actually plays well I’m not saying MVP level but if he’s 90% of that if he’s somewhere in between the Rogers we saw at the end of Green Bay and the MVP Rogers then this is a very good team you know so I I and what he said about the pre it is all those guys are probably going to be gone if but so that’s so there’s so first I my struggle is I’m yet to have anyone explain to me why he should be better than his last year in Green Bay I agree that’s the piece can I give a couple quick sure please one he’s taking part in the offseason workouts which he didn’t do in Green Bay at the end he didn’t seem to have any really love for the young receiver so I would say that and I also think like Greg said he is he seems more Allin and he’s embracing the pressure his thumb was Jack yeah thumb was broken yeah okay well the thumb I don’t know if the thumb was broken uh the thumb was I mean I I know that that year I think I mean Dak broke his thumb and missed six weeks Aaron didn’t miss any games so I don’t he had he had a thumb issue sure that’s fine I just I if the last time we saw him playing was MVP and then he popped his Achilles and it was just about the Achilles in the age I’d be a little more optimistic but we saw him play a year post MVP and he was mediocre but the other issue I have with the comment is so multi-layered first of all it is a wild thing to say it’s a can you I’m just asking how you two would feel I’m not Aaron Rogers of this show but let’s just say if I was doing an interview I’m like listen I just come to work every day and I know if I don’t perform we’re all F like if I don’t if I don’t produce RW Greg wild everybody’s looking for a job yeah it’s I me I don’t I don’t think I hear you look I wouldn’t say that about Deon on the podcast he’s right rers is absolutely right we all know it so go ahead Greg prior to prior to him making this statement what we were saying about this coaching staff this entire coaching staff the reason why they did not get fired is because this experiment had had a chance to be laid out right so that then brings me why I said it’s multi-layer if what he saying is true then they are making a grievous error keeping those people in place if the only if it’s like well these guys only have a job because Aaron prefers it when we we think that they they’re going to be fired you know they’re on this close being fired then they should have been fired firing Robert Salah or Nat Hackett or both of them doesn’t cost you Aaron Rogers theoretically it shouldn’t he he wants to play he turned down the the opportunity to be the vice president of the United States in order to play for this football team the the it is you’re saying so you guys so what we’re saying is I just want to make sure I have it right is that we are going to believe in the Jets under the premise of that Rogers two years ago could have been better but wasn’t bought in enough this year is going to be better under the preconditions of things that are not supposed to be in control of the quarterback he gets to say over like the full coaching staff GM and offensive coordinator as long as everything is laid out the way he demands then we think we have our best chance of getting decent to good Aaron Rodgers if that’s the case I don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze personally I don’t and I’m going to stand here as the one that’s been in a huddle with that guy and tell you the juice is worth the squeeze I I I agree if they’re getting the guy you were in the huddle with I no what I’m saying is they don’t even need that guy they don’t need the version of that guy they will have his brains the the the I’m not sure if his brains as good as it was 10 years it is I mean we we’re we’re not talking outside of football we’re focusing on football like he’s going to pre- snap get them in the best situations like you you don’t you don’t unlearn those things you improve you build on that you grow you advance like I’m excited about the buyin and and when you talk about last year team that is the issue if you don’t have a group of 11 guys bought in let alone the quarterback he didn’t he didn’t believe in none of those guys he threw the ball at to Christian Washington on the first play of their offensive snap against the Minnesota Vikings when he was there and never threw it to him again the rest of the game he didn’t believe in any of them so how are you going to get the best version of those guys if the guy that is supposed to be believing in you don’t believe in you and I guess my my point is I if a guy if if if the biggest offense is well it’s a and it’s me jeie said it ended up being right or at least some people think like oh drafting Jordan love was smart because it put a chip on Aaron Rogers shoulder his play it tailed off because he wasn’t bought in but now he has something to prove it wasn’t that he wasn’t great in Green Bay it couldn’t been great but he didn’t trust the receivers didn’t do the work he needed to do in order to be great but now he will be again my point is if if that if your whole season is relying on someone that fickle and where that the it’s going to be as long as everything is laid out for me all produce I don’t think that is a smart season long bet I don’t think you are able to operate an organization to where all of those things are going to stay in line in order to appease Aaron roggers which it sounds like what we’re saying is as long as he’s happy and feels in control he’ll play great quarterback yeah I I think that’s a reach yeah we’re not saying all his o o or his quarterback’s coach in Green Bay and got a new coach in leflour and was great I mean I don’t think he has to be happy like that what was it’s been 23 games since he threw for 300 yards be a th in three days before he gets another chance and he’s not going to you’re never going to give him credit cuz you’re a patri I’ll give him credit but he hasn’t thrown for 300 yards in over a th days okay so it’s it’s a data point coming up next Mike McDaniel in the Dolphins no no guys no the break dancing the weather we have two takes that have come together I didn’t even know this was coming together this was coming they break dancing dolphins were hot except when they were not Mike McDaniel looking to change the perception slbs that the dolphins go cold when it gets cold take a listen I think uh well if you’re wanting to uh change narrative you’re going to have an opportunity I think that the opportunities down the stretch of the season um are are one ones that this team at that point in time will be thirsting for um you know that’s that that’s something that um you know when when I saw the schedule I was pretty excited okay here’s Tua in the cold brew 0 and six touch down intercept 46 we’ve now upped it it used to be 45 46 become hooded sweatshirt with totally F but a nice sweater uh Brew do you think Miami can turn this around let let me let me do it this way ask you guys question you’ve all seen break dancers right before cardboard out on the street yeah we’ve seen it bro have they ever done it when it’s cold it’s usually nice weather when they’re break dancing right I mean I don’t know if that’s accurate I me I have to check I mean mostly yeah it is your points get tight you can’t pop like you used to in the nice weather no all right and first of all it’s not just Tua this team since 1966 is 2549 and one when it’s 40 degrees or under you can you can look at it two ways you can say BR the 70s the 80s that doesn’t count or you can say wow this is a real large sample size all right so I’m just saying and then Tua I mean come on they lost their last 10 games in 45 degree weather or worse and you saw the numbers the numbers are his numbers are dramatically different and I get it Mo your numbers are going to be a little less in the cold weather but can we get a w so no I’m I’m sorry and I like Mike McDaniel and and two is what in the world are you doing what boy you reach you you reaching so far down like where’s the W none of these players care about 25 and 49 1966 football well this just talk about 0 and 10 then how about that look look the fact of the matter is is what their coach is saying is factual like we are going to put a magnifying glass on the the late November game in in Green Bay supposed to be 25 de the late going be the late game against Cleveland the late game here against the Jets supposed to be 27 de so for me when I look at this they have they do need to prove this point however if I am Miami I would be trying to do what every team in the National Football League is believing that they can do this season be the number one overall SE yes and half teams come to you well that part’s definitely true but in order to do that they’re going to have to succeed in some of these cold weather game and you played in cold weather your whole career that’s or most of it that’s why you you feel different so boys don’t want that cold the boys in the cold don’t want to go down to that heat all so so can I can I say something I think you guys are going to scoff at but I believe is true in that playoff game in Kan city now that was the third coldest game ever so now we’re talking extremes right on one sideline you have Andy Reid with damn stag tis hanging from his mustache and just coaching and Mike McDaniel from the moment they first showed him looked miserable I think Mike has done everything to try to pump up Tua smartly I also think he’s a brilliant coach I think that dealing with the cold starts with him I think what do you want him to do we a short sleeve shirt it’s too cold yes no well that was too cold no that you couldn’t have you could lose an arm but uh but if it’s November 3rd they play Buffalo according to my friends at the Farmers Almanac it’s supposed to be 44° that day that’s under that I want him in joggers and a short sleeve shirt and just nothing’s going on I think there is an element Greg you’re rolling your eye I do think there is an element in in one of the most famous games in NFL history we had an old man’s face almost break apart in Tom coflin turning purple and those giants dealt with it and their coach was dealing with it I think it’s and you’re saying we didn’t deal with it and Mike McCarthy didn’t deal with well I mean just lost I’m just telling what I’m telling you is I not saying you guys didn’t deal with it what I am saying is I do think there is a sense of from your coach and your quarterback are we going to let the elements be a part of this story and momes clearly was like no we’re not and I’m saying for I think Tua might need an assist in that and I think the assist could come from Mike mdel I think you’re you’re on to something as it pertains to the quarterback not a single player gets dress and looks at the coach let me see what coach got on let me see what we don’t care about that but if you now like Mike McCarthy did when we were in Chicago back in 20 whatever it was 11 12 whatever and we’re losing or we’re winning that game and we came out the tunnel late at halftime and we didn’t have anything to play for and he’s all bundled up yelling at us why are you guys late coming out myself Brett Favre Charles Woodson all of us we’re late coming out and I’m like man you take all that stuff offact never did I think prior to the game man Mike even cold out here well but you did at some point it came because he because he challenged us right yeah when it didn’t you know what Greg you agree with me yeah that’s right you agree with me I mean flatly you agree with me coming up next uh o a little Brock pie discussion better than ever bro you already led the league in pass already I know what more can you do know win a Super Bowl check in on the League’s best rated passer if you believe in passer r Brock pie San Francisco’s otaa Shan said pie who’s only started 21 games mind you is ahead of where he was last year take a listen he’s definitely ahead of where he was last year this time but I mean it was just real cool um being able to go through a whole year of cutup last year he had to do it and then it would just be frustrated for him because he couldn’t really go work on it he had to just visualize it and think about it and had to wait for that opportunity in training camp uh this year right away it’s been awesome for him to like lead us through the whole offseason wow okay here’s how he did after not even a full you know OTAs first in pass rating first in yards for pass third in touchdowns completion percentage was fourth and about 270 passing yards per game which put him fifth holy cow Brew are you willing to guarantee that pie will be even better this year well there’s no reason not to think he’s going to be great none and first of all the sample size is 27 games okay that’s a large enough s including six playoff games that’s a large enough sample decides to say this is not a fluke all right this guy is is a good quarterback all right especially in nism he’s a great quarterback so there’s that he will have a better grasp of the offense than he ever has he’ll have a better Report with his receivers than he ever has he’s more confident than ever having played in the Super Bowl and played fairly well I like what is to what what reason would we think he won’t play better now the stats the official is great I’m not saying his stats will necessarily be definitely better but I think he’ll be a better quarterback this year he’s seen it all going into the last year he had not as Nick was pushing he had not had to come back you know and rally against adversity he did that he had not had the experience of really playing poorly in some games and people doubting him and having a bounce back from that he had not played in a Super Bowl like again I don’t I don’t know what reason to think a guy at his age what is he 24 25 that will not improve sometimes guys have outlier years and then they regress to the mean that’s why an out out 27 games it’s not it’s not well we’re not hold on we we’re talking about how he he played last season right and the question is does every player just go like this and the answer to that is obviously no but what I didn’t hear in any of that was an answer do you think yes you’re okay and by better he’ll have better numbers I think he’ll be a better quarterback I don’t know their record will be better okay so he might not have better stats the record might not be better but then based on what he he will be a better quarterback based on what though I’m asking can I can I I think some I think he’ll have more touchdowns I think his passer rating which was 113 that might go a little down but I’m not gonna say if it’s 107 that he didn’t have a better year so I think it’s some of the stats may be better some may not be that’s what I’m saying but he’s G I think he’s gonna be a better quarterback I think he’s gonna be better too and the reason why I think he’s gonna be better is simple for me in the situations where he does not have all things aligned perfectly for him meaning he doesn’t Debo’s not available or Christian mcaffry is not available or auk may not be if he if someone is not available I don’t think he plays the way he did this past season when we saw him in those moments where we were waiting up let’s see who you really are now I think he’s going to have pulled from the confidence that you alluded to in the Super Bowls being able to play the way he played in that game albeit they lost he’s going to pull from that and he’ll be better in those moments I’m not 100% sold on the stats because he put up some pretty good numbers year so I I guess my my real issue would be all of the reasons we would think he would be better after last season one would have been able to make all of the exact same Arguments for Jimmy right first Jimmy never put up numbers no no no right which is why it would have been easier for him to be better you’re right it hold hold let blw let me please let me say that he it was his first full year as a starter after looking good in his small sample at the end of last year then he got them to a Super Bowl he had a good not histo not those numbers but a good season of course that player is just going to get better and that was the best he ever was that was the best he ever was wasn’t the no it’s not app jimmmy garoo was older when he started playing this dude start playing right from jump essentially yeah Jimmy Garo sat on the bench for what how many years in New England two three years in New England so he was an older more mature player maybe 27 years old say 26 27 you don’t expect a guy that age to necessarily keep improving a guy that’s 24 years old I expect him to keep and has played from Jump Street but you wouldn’t also have expected for Jimmy that to that year to be the best he ever was and what I’m saying is and I have been consistent on this we’ll see if I’m right I think we will look back and say what was the best Brock pie ever was and it’s going into being the year he was third in MVP his team got to the Super Bowl he was first second third or fourth in all those categories I do not think he’ll ever have a season like that one if you guys both think he’ll be better then there’s never been an easier super Super Bowl pick in the world because the ners they they have the safety hanga coming back now I understand green law will see how long he takes come back from injury but the receivers are there Trent Williams is there Christian mcaffrey is there they didn’t have any of these major losses if the belief is the quarterback will be better the ners everyone said had the best roster in football then it’s the most obvious pick I’ve ever seen and I I think more people agree with with me but they just don’t think it’s fair they are Super Bowl favorites right so I don’t people are saying right but I don’t think that I don’t think Brew or Greg is going to say the Niners are winning the Super Bowl and the only reason not to do it is because you don’t fully believe in the quarterback maybe no that’s not the only reason do would you would you be shocked if they made the Super Bowl I would be surprised yeah if the 49ers made the super yes after losing yeah I would be surprised if Brock P’s the only quarterback in the last 30 years other than uh Tom Brady to follow up a superl loss by returning you’ve been surprised by his entire career so that’s not saying anything well yeah you have every single thing he’s done you’ve been surprised yeah well I mean the whole world has been surprised by the vast majority of it this table included now at some point people but but at some point people start believing there’s typically drastic turnover when when teams don’t make it back like with this team there isn’t drastic turnover you you have a green law injury that you hopefully you can fill that void but Brock pie like I’m saying it’s not that his numbers are going to be like up oh he’s thrown for 4500 yards and 50 touchdowns but he threw for 4,300 last year and y’all are saying he’s going to be what what I’m saying is in moments where they need him to be better he is going to be better in Cleveland when they needed him to be better and he wasn’t until the late drive that everybody talks about in position but he was poor prior to that in Minnesota the same thing I’m saying in those type of moments when the Ducks aren’t all the way aligned in perfectly symmetrical order like he will be better because of all those experiences okay okay I believe him Brock okay coming up next Patrick M leave Brock alone I’m just listen light up J Li from New York it’s a show that learned a lot about high school volleyball in the break turns out Kansas City volleyball capital of the Midwest you know that to be baseball capital of America it’s a second hour of first things for today Patrick Mahomes joining the show in just a few short minutes meanwhile Mavs haven’t won a game one in three years can they turn the tide in Minnesota tonight but right now we’re going to check in on the Steelers one team two quarterbacks who are both are expecting to start is this going to work not sure here’s Justin fields I’m definitely you know competing I think you know Russ knows that uh we’re competing against each other every day him being out there for me that you know helps me getting better uh us pushing each other so um I mean I definitely don’t have the mindset of you know me just you know sitting all year so um you know I’m coming in every day giving it all I got and you know pushing him to be his best and he’s you know pushing me to be my best each and every day so I appreciate that okay is that going to work well I think it’s going to work because I think Justin Fields going to end up being in the starting quarterback so I mean I think Justin Fields has a higher upside than Russell Wilson I think Justin field to this point in his career will be better than Russell Wilson and I think that one of two things going to happen Justin Field’s going to win the job outright or Russ will win the job and in short order Mike Tomlin will see the same thing Nat Hackett and Shawn Payton saw which is this guy’s not the guy he was six years ago and Justin Fields will get the opportunity and I like that Justin Fields is attacking it from a perspective of I need to be prepared to be the starter rather than trying to pay respects and be deferential to the Super Bowl champion veteran because that makes it more likely in my opinion Greg that he will be ready when he gets the opportunity I just think I do not believe that Russell Wilson is a quality NFL starting quarterback anymore I don’t know if Justin Fields is but because of Justin Fields measurables age and potential upside I think that he is the better option for the Steelers ultimate I I don’t even think Fields is just doing it thinking eventually I’m going to get in there I I think that’s his mentality and that’s what what I want from a quarterback it it I would be more concerned if I were Mike Tomlin and he would have if Justin would have been like hey you know I’m I’m just here you know I’m going to learn from Russ and you know when I get my chance like I want him the want to compete and ideally if you’re a Steelers fan or even in that organization your ideal situation is Justin Fields beats him out clearly in training camp everybody sees it and then he’s your starter because obviously he could be your quarterback for the next several years um so I don’t look and I think Russ will start the season and I don’t think Justin’s in any position to make it problematic with comment because if he if he were to come out if Russ starts and is no oh comments wise that’s what I’m saying I don’t think his he can’t show a bad attitude or bad comments cuz he could be out of the league and look Justin remember we talked about this in months ago and I thought before they got Russ I said look they should go after Russ or Justin but Justin would be the number one pick cuz he’s younger um but Justin we have to during that when they went four and three at the end of the year he only threw for 200 yards three times he only threw for more than 225 once you know like his running was good and so I that’s why I think Russ can still win this job so I’m I’m I believe he’s going to play this year I originally was like oh he’s going to start he’s going to be their starter I don’t think he’s going to be their starter and I think it’ll be intentional on Mike tomlin’s uh behalf simply because Justin field has never been able to sit back and watch a true professional at that at that position like really do it the right way now he Russ may not have the same skill sets he may not be able to still do the same things but in practice he’s going to show him how to practice he’s gonna have great things to absorb from Russell Wilson to where when it is his time and he does get that nod and they do see which I do believe that Russell Wilson is not cutting it he will be ready and he will be more ready made now than he was ever with the Chicago Bears because of sitting back seeing how Russell Wilson approaches the games because I believe Russell Wilson does all the right things to your point though I just don’t believe he still is able to be that version that we saw early in Seattle all right Greg I’m going to put you on the spot here’s the Steelers schedule it’s very hard at the end back less hard at the beginning so do you want to take a guess if you were like you know what I could see Justin field starting I mean after the buy but then that’s a brutal stretch yeah this is this is tough when you look at the schedule it’s like if Russ can’t get it done like in those first three four weeks they should be three in one right those first 3 four weeks I I could see after the Cowboys game after theow the Cowboys game I’ll give Russ the Cowboys why do you guys seem to I I look at it as a coin flip on who’s the week one starting they field makes more money the Steelers have no they have they they have but they’re paying him more and they gave up a draft pick for him they they they have no loyalty guaranteed to Russell Wilson but there’s also no rush with and tomin has said he’s he a little bit ahead of Justin didn’t he say that well I mean I know when I mean they got yeah but what have they seen no I think he’s just totally going off I think I thought he was going off the order in which they were acquired they got Russell Wilson first and then they went and got and they told Russ and and Russ seemingly has some relationships with ownership there and there was it appeared an agreement you know Russ took the minimum to come there be a starter and then they end up trading for but they could have went and I look I thought they should have went after Justin before Russ but they didn’t they chose not now I know they thought maybe it’ll be a higher cost but they still didn’t really push it all in for J I just think he’s going to be better I think he’s going to I think that and I think that he is more likely to win over the locker room like the the Bears players liked Justin fields that is undenied despite the fact that he wasn’t very good on the field they liked him the it’s been a while since Russ won over a locker room and so in my opinion like I I and also because of the schedule I think there is an element of man if we if we if it is close I would rather have the higher upside guy be there from the beginning because if we’re if we think we might end up pulling the plug at some point then if the first time the younger guy gets to play it’s right when this gauntlets opening up we go into next year where we have two quarterbacks who played neither of whom put up good tape Greg and these OTAs is anything happening where it’s like oo one guy can jump ahead of the other guy or is it just like kind of no tossing the ball around you’re not going to make any moves and adjustments in ltas okay well Aaron Rogers we were talking about how great he oh seeing that he’s healthy well I think that part yeah but in training camp it can in training camp it can and it will I would imagine we’ll see okay uh coming up after the break looks like we’re going to have Patrick Mahomes here what’s the Hope let’s go Pat I got a couple questions for you GRE you got to leave those on an email leave them in an email welcome back to the show joining us now it’s friend of the show Super Bowl champion part owner of the Royals and investor in Throne sport coffee which we got a shipment of today this Patrick Mahomes Patrick I want to ask you about Throne coffee which I will be taste testing live oh wow on air while Patrick describes his investment go ahead Patrick thanks for joining us yeah no um it’s called Throne sport coffee uh it’s actually I’m a coffee drinker myself and uh a guy named Michael fidelli came to me and had the idea of having a healthier ready to drink coffee and um we were able to kind of I was actually taste testing it for a couple a year and a half ago now um and we came up with a great product that has um either one or eight grams of sugar depending on the flavor um and amino acids Vitamin B and uh 150 milligrams of natural caffeine so something that I drink on a daily basis now I can have a healthy version of it it’s now the official coffee of first things first absolutely and I got listen this isn’t for you Pat but it goes great with a nickam patch feel wir right now um all right listen they I really wanted to talk to you about the Royals and the Mavs they said I have to ask a football question so I’ll ask a couple um I so I asked people on Twitter if they could guess your favorite play of your career Super Bowls don’t count is there one play that stands out to you as like the or your favorite moment um yeah I always say the uh the fourth and seven versus the Ravens in my first year star I think it was 2018 um I I was scrambling over to the right y’all got it I was scrambling over to the right um and I just threw it back to the middle of the field I barely saw Tyreek and then he comes back to the ball makes that catch and that was kind of that first year when I’m trying to prove myself and to have that play in that moment um was definitely a big one and obviously you can see it was definitely not how the play was was supposed to go but we go on to win the game and um I think that kind of jump started in my career yeah and it ended up being a huge one of the reasons that the Chiefs had the home field advantage through the AFC playoffs that year uh is there a quarterback you who’s the quarterback you watch that you enjoy watching the most like the guy when you’re able to you guys barely play on Sundays anymore so when you’re able to sit down on Sundays and and watch who’s the quarterback you enjoy watching the most there’s a couple um I like watching Josh a lot we play a lot of similar oppon um he plays a similar style of football that I do um so I always watch the what the bills do and try to take from things that he does um I like watching CJ Str a lot now man he’s he’s been been out there and he’s making plays happen um and then I would say probably Joe I I mean just got I watch the same we play the same teams and so watching him play uh definitely gives me some ideas of what we can do as an offense and but I mean the thing about the NFL now man there’s a lot of great quarterbacks um and so I’m kind of the old guy now and I have to kind of hold hold that title as the old guy but I try to continue to do whatever I can to be the the best that I can be all right so I told you this a couple years ago once upon a time I was you know probably can City’s favorite son you took it from me then once upon a time I was one of the only National folks that was uh you know into the Dallas Mavericks and Luca you took that from me as well so that congrats on that um but do you right now Wilds won’t give a NBA Finals pick I assume you will do you think your Mavs and Luca can finish it off and how do you see this playing out it’s going to be a great Series this series right here cuz uh Anthony Edwards is has been dominant that team is a great team um played great defense and it’s going to be it’s going to be a hard series but I think the Mavs have what it takes um Kyrie’s been playing great ball um drik Jones Jr’s been playing great defense PJ Washington playing defense and offense um they did a lot of great things at the trade deadline I mean I remember seeing it I went I went to a Nuggets game they they play the Nuggets early after the trade deadline and you can see the athleticism that they kind of brought in and I think if Luca plays the way that Luca can play and Kyrie plays like Kyrie they got as good a chance of anybody of winning at all Patrick we we had speaking of basketball we had your dad Patrick Senor on my radio show The Odd Couple and he told us your best sport was probably basketball in high school we know you played all three Sports he said your best was probably basketball first of all is that true number one and secondly you know there’s been this whole debate about could NFL players play in the NBA and vice versa if you stopped playing football and gave yourself a year to get ready do you think you could play in the NBA no I I don’t think I can play in the NBA now um I think if I maybe if I like tried to continue to play basketball when I was young this is this is my sophomore year of high school right here I was this tall when I was in eighth grade so I thought I was going to be a basketball player I mean y’all see my brother my brother’s 66 I’m the smallest one in my family so um I played point guard I could shoot I could pass um and so I I uh my dad was a really good basketball player I thought that was going to be my dream and but once I stopped growing I knew I had to probably focus on baseball or football and uh I ended up choosing football in the end and uh it worked out pretty all right oh that’s that’s nice okay so is there a comp to what your game was like like in the NBA now current player or former player who was your game like when you were at your best in basketball um I would say what well my favorite player growing up was Carmelo so I used to I used to shoot mid-ranges and and pass and do stuff like that but now I feel like I play a lot similar to Luca man I’m not as skilled offensively as he is um and all the stuff he can do but as far as being able to pass the ball um be able to score kind of using um using my size that’s how that’s how I was in in high school obviously I don’t know if you can use your size like I used to do in high school it’s at 63 so uh that’s why I’m playing football now um just to get back to football and some unfinished business that we have and promises that you made on this show Patrick felt like this season uh trust was one of the fundamental characteristics of the Super Bowl winning team right the drop rate was high for the wide receivers but you always had trust in them they always had trust in you maybe you didn’t have to make take so many risks uh on a third down or whatever because you knew you trusted the defense and and they you get you’d get the ball back well last time you were on the show uh I said hey Patrick is the behind the back pass uh on the horizon and I trusted you because you said yeah don’t give up on it and it’s been 21 games and we still haven’t seen it so is that something that we just untrustful or did you lie to me or what what happened there um I think it was uh we didn’t we didn’t play as well offensively enough for me to pull the behind the back pass off this last year but it’s no one else’s fault uh than myself because Co Reed wants me to throw it behind the back more than anyone in the world and so he he uh deliberately puts in plays that I have the opportunity to throw the ball behind the back so it’s it’s not a it’s not a coaching thing it’s it’s me not having that confidence to do it in the game but uh one of these games man we got to do it like just there’s been too much hype on it we got to do it um and hopefully it’s to Travis because I feel like he’s the best at judging that behind the back pass love it all right this year it will happen all right great answer stick around right now because you’re in luck you get to be part of the best segment in all of sports what a thrill it’s NBA tears so here’s what happened last night a secretive Committee of savant analysts and fans who are demanding we put more Royals highlights into the show even though I put in three this week fought and toiled and burned the Midnight Oil to deliver the best segment in all of sports it’s an honor and a privilege it’s a special Mahomes edition of NBA tiers indeed it is Patrick there’s only four teams left so it’ll be quick tiers and they have a football slant to them so bottom of the tiers the 2019 Titans tier that’s the Indiana Pacers so hell of an accomplishment you surprised people you made a final four you’re a little overring on one player whether it’s halberton or Derrik Henry some defensive weaknesses might be exploited in the conference Championship round but it’s a great season either way next TI the 2022 Eagles tier best record in their sport for the Celtics but in an inferior conference there were some questions they Glide all the way to the championship game but questions about the opponents along the way the Giants and then an injured Brock pie of course for the Eagles for the Celtics some injuries on their own and then they get cracked in of course that Championship round which brings us to the Timberwolves which are the 2020 Buffalo Bills tier and Ascent out of nowhere new potential face of the league we hear an Josh Allen they their major trade pays dividends for them Rudy Gober Stefon Diggs and we assume it will be one of the first of many final fours for the bills that is yet to occur but we thought it would at the time for the timber rals we’ll see and then at top the tear Patrick the 2023 Chiefs team a team that once upon a time was all offense all of a sudden starts leaning on its defense there is a middling regular season people aren’t sure if they can really believe but massive contributions by young players and an ascendant Superstar who doesn’t mind a postgame beer or maybe a postgame hookah depending on who we’re talking about and sporting the dad bod is almost taunting the opponent they’re at top the tears that is the latest edition of Nick’s tear Patrick your thoughts on it um yeah you’re surprising me so I’m just going to give my instant reaction thoughts here I would change the 2023 Chiefs to the 2019 Chiefs if you remember that defense kind of came on at the end of the season um and made a lot of time stops in timely Fashions and that’s what kind of got us over the edge um and I was still young hadn’t won my first championship yet and uh that could that could be a Luca so I think the 2019 Chiefs would be better than the 2023 Chiefs you know what I got to say for the first time in the history you’re right I mean the tears were wrong I the tears were usually I’m tell you why they’re right but you know what you’re right that would have been a better example it just flatly would have been better I should have done it yeah that’s correct Patrick as much as I respect your fan of the Mavericks you grew up down there I am moving the Timberwolves to the top and and I sensed a tad bit of trepidation in your voice when you were talking earlier about this matchup Anthony Edwards has to scare you a little bit so I’m I’m picking him to lead the Maverick or lead the uh Timberwolves to the championship this year that’s great no I would say there’s no doubt that Anthony Edwards does scare me it does scare me a lot um as well as that team but uh like you said though man I think uh Luca getting a few days off getting a little healthier um and being more like the Luca we saw in the playoffs in the past I think that can get us over the top as a mass fan I am loan out Rick in the training staff that got your ankle right to work on Luca’s knee hoist that Larry O’Brien it’s all we need yeah pretty good yeah pretty good uh Patrick quickly can you give us a prediction for tonight game one wolves Mavs oh we’ll lose tonight for sure that’s how the M that’s how the mths do I’ve told everybody in the locker room that we will lose tonight um but when I come back after Memorial Day the MS will be up two to 21 um and I can then we can talk about a series thank you very much thank you man more first first after the break that was great that was great he’s awesome welcome back to a very short block wolves have yet to lose a game one Mavs have yet to win a game one not only this year but actually for a few years so knowing this Brew who you got tonight well first of all what happened to my bud list promo the bud list you’re right he’s cutting me out of everything 45 seconds left I’m starting to wonder what the heck is going on all right I got the MS I mean I got the uh I got the you BW it more interested Timberwolves tonight the Wilds yes before these Conference Finals start are you going to make the finals pick I’ll tell you what you may remember I did coin the phrase defense wins championships yeah and I’m leaning towards gra the enel leaning towards the enel ready I’m not ready I’m not ready maybe tomorrow I need a little more data I with respect to Patrick’s prediction I think the Mavs win tonight I think there’s a bit of a come down for the Tim rolls after the huge win watch Ant an’s going to go crazy speak is next see you tomorrow