Does the Josh Taylor that beat Jose Ramirez still exist? Full Taylor v Catterall 2 preview, boxing.

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we’ got an action-packed weekend uh of boxing coming your way and I tell you what it’s happening on British soil kits that’s right how uh one big eventers yeah yeah well that a proper fight that people are asked about that people are excited about is actually taking place in on British soil and I know for a fact lead leads leads I know for the fact that both of these guys and the teams were in conversations about the possibility of maybe this going to Saudi Arabia because maybe there was a few more quid out there um but I’m told having spoken to both Fighters that they were adamant that it has to happen in front of British fight fans because it is a rematch that took place in front of British fight fans the first time around of which we attended in Glasgow and it’s got a massive storyline connected to it I’m just absolutely gutted for at least one of these people one’s already achieved it and his legacy’s assured but for at least one of these people that there’s no uh World Championship status connected to it uh I’m gutted for [Music] him but as a fight listen it needed to happen didn’t it it did need to happen H and listen people who watch us and listen to us all the time no mate we ain’t got no problem with Saudi Arabia at all Uncle Tey is a fight disciple but you’re right this fight went down in Glasgow two years three months ago we were there we were ringside we were Gob smacked like the rest of the Arena when the scor cards were out incidentally those scorecards had [ __ ] all to do with Josh Taylor and he’s had he’s suffered from that Injustice I would say as much as Jack catell I Know Jack has become the king of the who needs him Club because of what he did in Glasgow but Josh Taylor was the [ __ ] man let’s be honest right now Josh going into that fight we were like we’ve got kid here from Scotland never dodged a fight in his life well titled into 15 fights un IED three fights later the best fighter in Britain on the pound-for-pound list he’s [ __ ] mustard the kid from Manchester better know what he’s doing because Josh Taylor is the man and because of what happened because of those scorecards because of the way that Josh rightly or wrongly was advised to you know put on a put on a tin a tin hat and try and work his way through it it became a complete another [ __ ] show for him and it went absolutely it went too far of course it did no one should be contacting anyone personal life family members all that [ __ ] that is ridiculous AB bant but what Josh should have done is read the room in that moment and when hey I’m Josh Taylor I [ __ ] unified these belts the hard way I’ve never dodged a fight in me life you reckon this kid beat me right I don’t care what you do with your belts bring him back to me now bring that fight back to me now and because that didn’t happen for whatever political reason because they were forced to go in different directions well you know the political reason of course but that’s that is why Josh his career suffered as much maybe even more than Jack catall because of those two judges scorecards finally this weekend both these guys get to do what they do best throw fists at each other and hopefully we get a clear winner no controversy and that’s the end of it then whether it’s Josh or it’s Jack they just need to both of them desperately for their own sanity as well as their legacies need to just put this this rivalry to bed yeah you’re right listen I I need to do a deep dive in that first fight right because people will have forgotten everything that’s happened and then if you just listen to this podcast as to where it’s going to go you’ll think that there’s been a gear change for absolutely no reason whatsoever let me give you everything so we all know the fight the fight plays out and I score it 93 in favor of Jack catell right I think it’s quite obvious that Jack catell wins that fight it doesn’t go that way Josh Taylor Wins that fight on the cards you’re right in what you’ve just said there those cards are absolutely nothing to do with Josh Taylor I’m going to come back to him in a minute we on fight disciples then do a deep dive into that fight because it was ridiculous nobody on the planet saw that fight the way that those judges saw that fight judges two of those judges saw that fight so let’s find out as to how we end up getting to this situation first and foremost top rank of the promoter they were doing a co-promote if you remember with Ben Shalom and boxer for that particular event first time ever that four belts Undisputed championship between two British Fighters were taking place on British soil absolutely gigantic you would think that if you were going to make a poster or print a ticket both of those Fighters names would have been on the ticket they weren’t it was build as the Josh Taylor homecoming give it even though Jack catro was the man Challenger with the WBO his name should have been on the ticket it wasn’t why was that top rank still haven’t answered that question for me they were billing it Josh Taylor Josh Taylor Josh Taylor homecoming just beating Jose Ramirez here we go pumping it down everybody’s throat then let’s get to the judging situation this fight was sanctioned by the WBO because Jack was the mandatory Challenger right yeah now the WBO this is facts I’ve got the I’ve got all the I’ve got it the WBO wrote to the British boxing Board of control and stated that Victor Lan and Ian John Lewis were not qualified enough to referee or judge should I say a fight sanctioned by the WBO they haven’t gone through the correct training process with the WBO please can we reconsider those two people as judges this is fact that happened the British boxing Board of control ignored it why why did they ignore it they still haven’t answered that question for me so Ian John Lewis and Victor Lan are sat ringside judging that fight the two judges by the way scored it in favor of Josh Taylor right correct and in the aftermath Ian John Lewis was stepped down and hasn’t worked for the British boxing border control since now here’s another little piece on top of that top rank did a deal with the WBO for a vacant title fight how can they do that Josh Taylor was the champion and he was fighting Jack catro if Jack catro wins that fight the title’s not vacant the only way that that F title becomes vacant is if Josh Taylor wins and he steps up in weight if you remember that fight weight if you remember that fight week on the Friday the WBO presented Josh tayor with a super belt which gives him the opportunity to go up to the next weight Division and activate a mandatory Clause to F challenge immediately for the championship belt who coincidentally was at the time a top ranked fighter called Terence Crawford remember him now obviously all this did not play out by the way the the title fight that they had agreed with the WBO was Liam parro and guess what a top ranked fighter called Ti Fimo Lopez who ended up fighting for the WBO uh super lightweight belt against Josh Taylor a little bit further down the line so that was all the let’s just say we we used a very strong word in in in in the aftermath of that fight corruption that’s what that’s what we said but when you put all those things together and you end up getting the result that you get questions have to be asked those questions have never been answered as to how we end up get how how all those situations happened now the aftermath of it you’ve just pointed out both of these Fighters first and foremost Jack catell not only does he get stiffed on the cards and loses the opportunity to become the Undisputed Undisputed how many chances do you get an opportunity to fight for an Undisputed championship in the modern day four belts on the line he gets stiff of that opportunity he then gets shat on by every single sanctioning body now fair enough he wasn’t the number one with the ibf the WBA and the WBC so part them to one side right because he’s not their guy but the WBO [ __ ] him he should have it should have been immediate from the WBO to say whoa whoa whoa whoa whoaa who I I ain’t gone I ain’t gone a g a gone I ain’t gone you got to go and do that again that’s what should have happened now I’m not the ibf might have had a different thought process and maybe he’s gone to Josh D minute you’ve got to defend against our champion or the WBA might have done that so therefore some of those belts may have come as they ended up doing didn’t they if you remember because Josh had to throw some of those belts away because of certain mandated situations but the WBA WBO sorry should have been on it straight away and said hang on that has to go again you got to go and fight for our Championship again he’s our number one Challenger and we’re calling it straight away so he he go he goes straight back in there that’s what should have happened but it didn’t happen why because they’d already aged this fight over here aren’t they they’ already agreed this so he gets stiffed I think he ended up going down to number seven or something in the rankings it was absolutely abolutely ridiculous the way that Jack catell was treated in the aftermath of that fight stiff on the cards and then absolutely shafted and cast aside from a Josh Taylor point of view it’s not his fault he didn’t do anything wrong he went in he had a fight the judges judged in his favor and he came out Victorious we all disagree with that I’ve told him to his face me and him have had many different altercations over the last two years conversation wise whether it be private or on the radio in public everybody seen that play out now from a Josh Taylor point of view it was the reaction that’s why people have reacted fanwise this is that’s why people have reacted in the way that they have towards him in the aftermath of this fight because of his personal reaction to it he disagreed and that’s cool you can disagree you can think you’re a fighter man you thought that you won the fight that’s cool but it was the way that he went about disagreeing and then as you’ve just kind of highlighted there Josh Taylor to this point was the [ __ ] man he was the guy he was the one that we were all proud he he was like look at this dude here man he’s fighting postol he’s fighting but mate he’s only had 10 fights what the bloody hell’s this all about and he’s going in there he’s putting on these shs and it was absolutely awesome and he was our Beacon of light he in a in a time when there was loads of [ __ ] and there still is [ __ ] in this game this fell was going fight the best Lads come on bring reg’s PR over here yeah I’m I’m I’ll go at World Boxing Super Series and I’ll batter all these Lads and then I’ll go over to America in covid when me mates can’t come and I’ll go and take on the best guy in Jose rinz and I’ll unify this vision and I’ll become the guy and he did and he did it and he was our guy so the reaction afterwards obviously did not live up to maybe the pedestal that we all put him on all right because that’s what he was at that time so he maybe fell short a touch and that has gone on and it’s bubbled for a period of time and he then did something that I didn’t expect him to do he didn’t listen to that noise and go go [ __ ] it do it again he didn’t do that obviously he went down some of them belts got fragmented because San bodies [ __ ] threw the toys out the pr and asked him to do certain things that he didn’t necessarily want to do and then he went down the path of fighting obviously he ended up losing to T Fimo Lopez didn’t he I understand the tiimo Lopez fight because it was absolutely gigantic but again there’s still narrative with in that were he’s had injuries to deal with fights have been made with Jack fights couldn’t happen because of promoters broadcasters all these things fans and this listen I’m not on the inside of this but perspective outside looking in fans have looked at that and gone Josh is the king of his own castle he could have gone stop this for a second just stop I need to fight him before I move on I just need to just take care of this kid over here let me take care of him and then we can all move on if that happens everybody’s still banging the just ta drum 100% 100% banging it now if he just threw every belt in the bin and said I don’t give a [ __ ] I’ve been UND speed means nothing to me what means more to me is my career and my legacy to the Jack cat all points I was the [ __ ] man everyone in the country said I was the man I felt like the man I walked like the man I talk like the man all the media saying you are the man he was the man the Jack ceral loss which he didn’t suffer he should have read the room as I say he should have looked around and go you know what now man I’ve done that my legacy means more it doesn’t matter I don’t care what you say I don’t care what the promoter says I don’t care what the broadcasters say this game evolves around me you’re all making money off me I’m the star I’m in control I say what’s next whatever it takes bring me Jack catell I’m telling you now Jack catell was in a similar situation either gone I don’t care what any you say I don’t care what the money is I have to go back in with Josh Taylor he’s always kept that narrative going it was Josh that decided Well I’ll actually I’ll go and do this then because that’s always going to be there and that’s the situation we’re in right now’s only happening because Josh Taylor’s got nowhere else to go let’s be honest he’s lost his world title he’s king of needs in club there’s no one up at well towe he’s not that star attraction he once was before because he hasn’t got the four belts this is the only fight left to him that’s why we’re getting it now I think but at the weekend he could become that guy again now 100% just just quickly on that just to wrap that up because I want to get stuck into the fight I’m in a really lucky position as as a uni right and there’s there’ll be people watching this that have now maybe a different opinion on Josh Taylor because of the last couple of years right and don’t get me wrong man it’s not been an easy ride my relationship with Josh Taylor like I said I had him up here and he knew I had him up here and therefore maybe hearing me critiquing him maybe and some others that they they’re the ones that cut a little bit more because it’s like why is he doing it you know what I mean and as I said I was never critiquing him specifically on the moment of the fight I’ve just pointed out all the things that I pointed out connected to the fight that pissed me off and that’s why we went down that road of talking about don’t forget though don’t forget we we took a lot of criticism from the Taylor camp and from in a similar situation the Connor Ben Camp similar noises well why are you making such a big deal about me why are you making a big deal about my fail drug test why are you making such a big deal about my bad scorecards this is boxing it happens all the time the reason we went so big is we were getting a voice also we were both in Glasgow we were both ringside it was the first ever Undisputed title fight on British so face two fighters it couldn’t have been any bigger as far as I’m concerned it was one of the biggest fights I’ve ever attended in the history of British boxing and we were let down in that moment so British boxing I felt like we had to Deep dive on it because I had to know answers I had to know that this sport that I follow that I love that I’ve committed my professional life too isn’t [ __ ] corrupt to the core and that’s why I needed to ask the questions that we needed to ask and we needed to keep going I can’t wait to get the taste of sick out the back of my throat from that night we do it this weekend Conor Ben a similar situation we were at the time saying Conor Ben the most improved fighter in Britain where the [ __ ] did this guy come from he was struggling through domestic level fights five minutes ago now he’s a world title Contender Connor Ben’s amazing and then he pops out and you kind of go oh god what have we done did we not add two plus two to make four Jesus Christ that’s why we went big on that situation and we’ll continue to go big on situations of conserv within fight sports that’s we speak the truth that’s what we do what I was going to say regarding Taylor’s personality over the last two year of course at at the start he was very prickly very fiery we fell out we fell out publicly over that two-year period I think he’s matured I really do I’ve been like I said I’ve been really lucky to have had many conversations and they’ B tety there’ been there’s been a bit of friction in those conversations but my last conversation we my last couple of conversation with him have been very grown up he’s fronting it there’s a lot of Fighters out there that don’t front it that shut people down that ban people from stuff say I’m not talking to him there’s loads of them and I experienced this on a day-by-day basis just because of an opinion or they disagree with something that I’ve said Taylor’s M up man I’m telling you he’s a a different human being than what he was absolutely two to three years ago when all this all all started there’s a very team around him though as well don’t forget and that’s what I want to point out that’s what I want to point out and I’m not dogging any other team members out or any other people that he’s been around or whatever it may be or but he is I the people that he is socializing with do have a very holistic view of life and the way that the mind works and how to just how to operate as a as a as a human and I think he is back to the to the guy pre the first fight he’s absolutely there so with all that being said and done I know that fans will have their own opinion because they’ve not had the experiences that I’ve had Taylor is the person that you thought he was he is that person and we’re here this weekend and I think you’re right it’s because maybe some Avenues have shut down and we can’t go down here and we can’t go down there but that’s why we’re here this weekend we finally [ __ ] put this thing to bed which whichever way shape or form we we we well I hope but we put this thing to bed and I’m really looking forward to it I’ve got a lot of time a lot of respect for both of these guys they’re both top fellas it’s really weird for me to watch them nigle at each other and have a got and because they called it bad blood aren’t they or ha runs deep or whatever it’s bloody C I actually think both of these Lads are get on each other you know what I mean I really do I think they’re both top Lads but it is what it is man frch Groves UK tour in 10 years time yeah after this weekend yeah boxing’s a weir g m I reckon they put it all in there we have it and then whatever happens at the end it’s like fair enough man fair enough do you think whatever happens at the end of this because of the the Deep rooted rivalry like you could have sold this fight out anywhere from Edinburgh all the way down to Bournemouth South Coast anywhere in the this fight sells out yeah do you think if it’s another Point decision I’m not going to use the word controversial cuz please don’t let it be controversial we got a nice clean the right man won ins Saudi last week let’s get let the right man win this weekend but if it’s a close fight I could see it being a close fight I could see it being a split decision either way I could see one guy just Tu it out and just tweaking it just nicking it by a round or two do you think especially if it’s Jack that get his hand raised in a close decision it could set us up for you know and it’s a great fight and it could be a great fight I think it will be you think it could set us up for a third fight even down the line or do you think these two just need to [ __ ] live their lives without each other in the back of the minds um I think they’re I think they’re both at very different stages I know there’s only three years in age between them but they’re at very different stages aren’t they Josh Taylor’s Legacy despite what anybody thinks of him he done man he’s absolutely ticked every single box he’s going to go down in Fort he’s going to be a hall of fam he’s got it he cracked it man he cracked it Undisputed Champion come on yeah so it’s Z and Ken IM and Ken Buchanan are the [ __ ] poster boys SC box you know what I mean so I don’t listen I haven’t asked him where his Ambitions lie what he wants to try and Achieve 140 now looks very different than when the talk of Josh Taylor leaving 140 when when when he was when they were talking about him leaving 140 he he mopped it up there was nothing there for him so 147 seemed a very logical thing now hang on Lopez has just rocked up and he’s rocked up you know these it’s alive again I mean if Ryan Garcia gets his [ __ ] together maybe he’s gonna uh go somewhere else maybe in into a different division but there’s a lot of massive fights if Josh Tel is you know good at the good at the weight fit and all those types of things there’s still a lot of massive fights at 140 so does he want to try and become a champion again here I don’t know so going back to the point of what you’re saying I think no for Jack because I think Jack will still have World title aspirations I think after if he beats Taylor he wants a world title shot doesn’t he that’s what he’s going to want I think from a Taylor point of view if he is beaten by catell then of course I think he would want it back I think he would want to try and get it back and then settle it and let’s have a Trilogy yeah yeah there’s it’s such an interesting fight because I also think about the performances up in Glasgow like we traveled up to Glasgow expecting a great fight because we both massively rated Jack catell and I think Josh Taylor underrated Jack catel just being around that fight week as well in the in the um who did you pick first for the first fight in the shopping center I picked Josh Taylor to win on points for I check yesterday um went up to the and Center Jack was very much like you as you say his face W even on the tickets he was very much like ear he years doing an open workout with mixed in with the under card and then suddenly it was like like get the the trumpets out there comes Josh Taylor it felt like the Josh Taylor homecoming show as you pointed out earlier on and even on the night walk into the arena the energy was really high the Scottish fans were buzzing oh he’s the greatest he’s this he’s that you know and the atmosphere inside the inside the space was was brilliant but then as soon as the bell went and Jack catell started the way he did I thought back to like two days before just having a quiet word backstage with with Jamie Moore and Nigel Travis and they were so [ __ ] confident they were like mate we’ve got don’t worry we’ve got this and I’m like I’ve just I’ve just wrote me preview I said Josh Taylor’s gonna win on points and they were like mate you wait and see we’ve got this and I was like [ __ ] they are so confident where’s that come from okay okay listen I get it they’ve had Jack the entire time you know Charlie loyalty I love it brilliant but on fight nights once we once the fight started I was like oh [ __ ] now while watching the fight and in the aftermath I’m thinking never seen Josh Taylor fight like that was he dead at the weight was it his worst night at the office did he completely undervalue Jack catell was he that bad like was it just the perfect stone for one guy and the waste for the other guy or would Jamie Nigel Travis right did Jack catell do that to the best version of Josh Taylor that’s the narrative I’ve got going into this fight that’s why I’m so divided Jack hatle absolutely had his number in Glasgow absolutely but it’s easy to make excuses for Josh listen we spoke to Josh on the Friday in Glasgow and he was Josh has always been prickly but he was extremely prickly because and he was just like this is the last time I’m ever making this weight it’s killing me I’m only doing it for him because I made him a promise to come back it blah blah blah blah blah and I thought wow You’ll never see him at 140 again but here we are two and a half years later he’s still at 140 so I honestly kind of like Glasgow I’m so fascinated by the first two rounds if Josh Taylor boun dominates Jack catell for the first two rounds I be like oh okay okay right you did completely undervalue his potential but if the fight start in a similar pattern as it does in Glasgow with Jack C his in his stride and Josh Taylor falling short with punches don’t think he’s only had one fight in those two and a half years and he got beat MH I know Jack’s had two fights and he’s had two wins with all due respect lesser opponents to TI Fimo Lopez who you know has the ability to turn up and be the best one of the best fighters on the planet but still that activity that desire Jack colls never ever took his gaze off Josh Taylor Josh Taylor went ah [ __ ] you mate I don’t need you no more going this way oh [ __ ] I’ve lost me belt what do we do now what Do’s nothing right I back to this guy the guy behind you just been staying at the back of your head waiting but that said has Jack catel shown all his cards now has he shown Josh Taylor what he’s capable of will Josh Taylor go right I’ve seen the best of you get ready for leads because you’re gonna see the [ __ ] best of me can’t wait honestly I cannot wait for it and if there’s any question on um on Josh Taylor because he’s attitude in building this I know that you you’ve highlighted it regarding the Avenues maybe shutting down and why we’re here remember he’s the one that demanded 140 for this fight yeah let’s go back to the scene of the crime that’s basically what he said everybody’s talked about it listen he’s struggling with 140 he’s G no no no no we’re going back to 140 that’s where the first one took place I don’t want no excuses 140 so think about it if he did if he be if he beats Jack catell at 143 or 144 everybody goes ah it’s because you catch weighted it man there you go you lost the first one though didn’t you well hang on a minute then let’s go back to 140 that’s what we’ll go and do we’ll go and have it now my qu all my questions about this fight are about Josh all of them in the gaps first and foremost we saw him on the scales in the buildup to the Jack catall first fight right he looked absolutely cooked he even told us mate listen I’m not doing this again this is absolutely smashing The Living Daylights out me as as you’ve just said am in the camp of him completely underestimating him because he’s done PR Gray he’s done Ramirez big names back to back man big unifications over got go I’ve got to go do a mandatory well I promised him and he’s the one that Steeps aside to let me become UND disput yeah [ __ ] it go on then and it and you and maybe got carried away with all the pump and Camy of it’s the Josh Taylor show baby it’s the homecoming whatever is in front of me is irrelevant cuz I’ve smashed post all up here I’ve beaten the baranik of this world I’ve beaten this guy easy work mate I genuinely think he took his foot his eye off the prize even in his training camps because you look at the way that that weight was done and you think [ __ ] me now Jack went out and did his thing and we all agree on this show anyway he won the fight he won the fight comfortably yeah you then look at the Tia Fimo Lopez performance okay so he goes to T Fimo Lopez he knows who T Fimo Lopez is that’s the real deal okay so now we’re in a in a big fight and Tio has this thing as well as I’ve said this on the show on many occasions gets himself up for the big fights the less very similar to Josh may be I don’t know because he drops his level when he’s fighting someone beneath him he’s like right okay but ters knows what Josh Taylor is all about right I’m stepping up and wait this is my chance I’ve just come off the back of my own defeat let’s get at it Tio was great that night but the key thing that I heard in the aftermath of the Taylor when he was speaking to Media was my legs there now I have spoken to him since he had that injured didn’t with his foot were and he’s quite a serious injury that so he couldn’t do the road work he couldn’t get out and he couldn’t do the run in he couldn’t get the the miles into his legs maybe that is the reason for the flat performance against T fale Lopez I am told the injuries held up nice he’s done his Rob work we spoke to members of his gym we know many members in that gym he’s out there man he’s grafting he’s doing it he’s doing his miles and he’s feeling fit he’s feeling healthy I’ve looked at him he looks in [ __ ] good shape he looks in good good shape here’s another little caveat he’s just had that eye thing hasn’t he because this fight was delayed if you remember it was supposed to happen a little earlier on this year it’s just been pushed back because he had a procedure on his eye of which was affecting the way that he was boxing I’m I’m told that it’s all clear and all sorted fingers crossed it is so there’s a couple of little things in there from ta the tayor that F Ramirez does that guy exist if that guy exists he will win this fight I have no I have absolutely no doubt in my mind Josh Taylor has been there done it got the T-shirt he’s still only 33 still okay and the accolades the fights that he’s been in he’s far supersedes anything that uh Jack cat’s currently done in his career 100% I think we’d all agreed with that right but does the dud from literally it’s three years ago to the day yesterday isn’t it that he became that he beat Ramirez does that guy still exist has the were and tur of the operations on the foot the operations on the ey has that just took has it took a beat off him if it’s took a beat off him jack cell’s in this of the weekend absolutely well and truly in it because he’s young he’s fresh he hasn’t got any miles really on the clock he’s not been in any wars or anything like that like Jack like Josh has and he could navigate this fight and he could come out Victorious at the weekend but for me the questions are all with Josh where’s the body where is the body at I know how good you are Tech as a fighter was the body at yeah if you look at Josh in the runup to that Jack CLE fight again just to reiterate he was the [ __ ] man his five opponents in the run-up to that fight four of them were world champions and they had like a combined I wrote this down yester oh yeah it was mad 117 wins zero defeats combined or something like that in that ballp 110 something wins zero defeats as five I think you have to go back yeah you have to go back to his Victor poo win find someone with a loss to find someone that had a loss and that loss was against Terence Crawford yeah exactly that’s how saying it was and then he gets in with Jack catrell who at the time was what 25 and0 26 and0 something like that 26 and0 I think it was the level that Josh Taylor’s at Jack catle can’t touch that he can’t touch it you know prior to the fight you’ve just read out Josh’s accolades Jack’s probably biggest women was Ohara Davis very much a domestic level opponent 26 and0 but 26 of who compared to Josh and that maybe that was playing in Josh’s mind listen I’m at Elite level so not only am I at Elite level Elite yeah I’m the [ __ ] barometer in the weight division you beat Ohara Davis that’s it that’s all you’ve done and maybe the under you in coming there but I will counter that by saying sometimes in life sometimes in sport and certainly in fight Sports you just get a guy that’s got your number you just get a guy that’s your [ __ ] Kryptonite and maybe Jack catell is Josh Taylor’s Kryptonite maybe that similar that southp style that he’s got to Cy Taylor Southpaw style the aggression that he’s got he fights in the pocket he fights in the right moments he’s a combination puncher when he needs to be he’s got excellent footwork you know people completely undervalue Jack catel but look at his look at his life look at his career it’s a kid at 19 left charie went to Las Vegas trained at the [ __ ] Mayweather gym with just a rook sack on his back took himself to Floyd Mayweather’s gym to [ __ ] train no trainer nobody just went there to to a his stripes to Le into the Dog House [ __ ] straight in on his own just y this little this little shy unassuming kid from Charlie went out there and put the [ __ ] work in he’s been waiting he’s never been he never had the Fan Fair of Josh Taylor he didn’t have the amateur record of Josh Taylor Josh Taylor turned over with Commonwealth Games medal everything else got with the mcwiggins the mcwiggins were an amazing force in in boxing management they matched them up one of the most incredibly match careers you can say that because he won them all at the time we were on this show going do they not like Josh Taylor what the [ __ ] are he matching him with him for this is mental is this kid ever going to have a soft touch as it turned out they mely matched him to get to the position where he was able to go on and completely conquer the world Jack catell could argue mate if IID had those opportunities I’d have done the same thing I just didn’t get him I had to go the hard way with all due respect the amazing way Steve Wood had him and everything listen fantastic he’s got there he got to the promised land eventually what I’m trying to say is yes Josh on paper Legacy Assured future Hall of Famer he is the [ __ ] man but sometimes the man like Superman has Kryptonite and maybe Jack’s just is Kryptonite and if Jack CLE can get three or four rounds up in this fight on Saturday night can get ahead get into his rhythm bring all those M Demons back Josh Taylor’s going to be in serious trouble because then never mind what we think Josh Taylor’s mind is going to start going [ __ ] me this kid has got my number this kid has got my number and then we’re going to see something mental because then I think Josh Taylor’s just going to go I want this more than you let’s just have it we could get fight the year we saw the weekend how important Corners are and they’ve got two Elite Corners here two Lads uh in Joe and Jamie that know the fight game they know how to read a fight they know how to change fights up I’m sure both Fighters have got a Swiss army knife they’re going to need it because there might be AR afraid to pull big pull Fighters out of big fights as well they care for the fighters you know Joe MCN and they they they’ve got a a real nice thing going on in Liverpool a real nice setup nothing but positive things coming out of that gym two really quality young coaches in in Jamie Moore and and um Nigel oh man Joe mnal it’s brilliant it’s absolutely Joe mnal and Dean of course Dean or Ro’s cousin yeah two fantast really close Corners best mates who have built something up built Stables up and I know Josh is kind of relatively new you know Joe Mady wasn’t in the corner for the uh for the face fight but maybe that’s what he you know that change maybe that’s what he’s needing that’s what I’m saying about the rhetoric maybe he’s gone in there maybe they have watched the fight fact maybe like because Joe mnal ain’t gonna he ain’t gonna [ __ ] you know lie to your face mnal could have sat down with Josh watch that fighting gone you’re funny Josh you lost that so this is how we win it and maybe that’s what Josh needed needed someone to snap it because at the time everyone’s gonna you bounce all AC yeah of course you won Josh of course you won you know you want to reassure a fighter that’s question himself [ __ ] how I just get a hien then or what no no no it’s Jo would done that sorry Joe Mack wouldn’t have done that one million percent Joe Mack wouldn’t have done that and he wouldn’t have done that in this Camp I guarantee they’ve watched that fight back in the camp and gone right this is how you lost that fight we won’t lose the second fight because this is why we’re going to approach the second fight so the question now is can Jamie Mo and Nigel Travis reinvent Jack Catal enough for him to bring a different game because as I say he’s showing all his cards now Jack we know how good he is we know what he’s capable of certainly Josh Taylor does what can he bring fresh and new and different to the second fight that he didn’t bring to the first fight because the first fight probably won eight seven or eight rounds easy the um the aftermath of this for for the winner from a Josh Taylor point of view you put to bed the story Bingo you also keep yourself well you you’re the player again at 140 aren’t you you put yourself right in that shot window of going right okay with him being connected to top rank does he get the fight with Tia Fimo Lopez back I would say that he would yeah maybe Tia Fimo Lopez has probably got his eyes on a Devon Haney or a unification or something else and he’s well within his right to think like that because it’s t he’s a big start but from a Josh Taylor point of view he’s getting in the mix again is he right is Josh Taylor Deon Haney the fight that makes the most sense Josh is on the Revival devans you know fighting for that fight to be overt but right now he’s got a loss on his record still go going down yeah yeah yeah yeah but Al but also from from from beating joshh Taylor a jack catell point of view he has to fight for the world title he has to fight for the world title I mean even I mean when I was thinking talking about getting stiffed right stiffed on the car stiffed by the sanctioning bodies had a [ __ ] terrible time promotionally signs to match room purely for they’re gon no no no that reg’s prog if you remember we’re gonna go fight reg prog yeah yeah so there you go they’ve got reg’s prog I’m the guy bring me in I’ll go fight reg’s prog for the world title oh hang on a minute we’re gonna we’re gonna we’re gonna work with Devon Haney first what you just brought me over 100% get get stiff there as well the kid if he beats if he beats Josh Taylor they have to break the bank and get him a world title fight it has to be that’s just the way it has to be yeah and I wouldn’t be I mean he I know it’s going to [ __ ] be some like a sabrio Matias is it they’re going to probably put him in with Matias the toughest probably of the whole bloody lot of them knowing it’s Jack cat’s bloody JY but at least it’s a shot he has to have the shot yeah 100% you know and that just come down that’s come down to Eddie and match room then you know that’s that would be the whole conversation to go you signed me telling me I would get a world title fight it never happens you give me the X Y and Zed you delivered me the Josh Taylor fight well anyone could have delivered it once Josh lost to De to to actually if you actually think about this again on that just what you’re saying this fight was made by a different promoter Eddie just matched the bid to get it it was made by some was done boxer were doing it and then he just went uh I’ve got matching rights yeah I’ll have it thanks done that’s why we’re here Jack’s been [ __ ] done plenty of time he’s not been looked after in my opinion listen I’m not on the inside of it but in my opinion looking at it from the outside I’m like go this dude’s not been looked after at all if he wins at the weekend he has to have a world title fight has to and I don’t give a [ __ ] how much it cost you make it happen for him agreed you gonna do a Nick pick on this I’m not picking anything I’m not picking anything I can’t wait for it and you know kind of like last week with the with the Fury versus usyk fight I could see every kind of outcome in that fight and we almost got the most unlikely outcome AKA a new six stoppage because those the guys that have such a high level and while I admit Josh Taylor’s been on a much higher level than Jack catl in his career I also yet to be convinced Jack cell hasn’t got his numbers so tomorrow’s going to be an interesting Nick Picks I’ll probably do a watch along with the weigh-ins and then hit you with my preview when I see the the whites of their eyes but I can’t wait for it man I can’t wait can’t wait to be in leads atmosphere be popping atmosphere is going to be absolutely outstanding if you got a ticket and you’re going along behave yourself it’s going to be amazing um and I think both of these guys are going to bring it I think we’re in you touched upon it there I think there’ll be a little bit of let’s have a look and then it’ll kick off and I think I think you might get a fight of the year I genely do absolutely um I also think on the undercard I’ll tell you what I’ll be a bit more committal on the undercard you know what I think about Chev Clark I think he’s the business I really do I think his feet the way that he fights in the pocket I think he is he’s going to go on to very big things now obviously there’s been these narratives in this particular division about he gets called as British title mandatory and Isaac Chamberlain uh vacates that then he goes to go uh chase the European title Isaac Chamberlain’s Well’s right to go chase the European title it’s the [ __ ] bigger title all right so let’s stop making some [ __ ] narratives that someone’s ducking somebody or somebody’s doing that or the other he actually agreed to take on mik schlak I know that that fight’s falling off and he’s taking on Jack Massie now for the European title but it’s still a European title so put that to B for a second jeev Clark’s gonna take care of business because if he keeps taking care of business he will probably meet Isaac chamblin at some point down the line and these two can get it on for maybe some bigger trinkets chev’s the business Ellis Zoro love him I think he’s a lovely lad nice solid fighter but I think the ceiling is that domestic level with all due respect to him and I know that he’s coming off the loss of jop payre and this is a bad barometer because jopay as we saw the weekend against one of the best fighters in the world in m bres is just on a different planet to these kids right and he’s come off the back of a a bad loss there there’s a bit of redemption he wants to get it back he wants to prove that he’s the guy but I think this is a moment where a lot of people go [ __ ] hell who’s that guy and they’re going to be looking at Chev Clark this is it yeah I think they’re the chief support aren’t they to to this fight so hopefully they’re going to get some eyes on it chev’s been one of them that’s just bubbled under it’s weird everybody else is flying up here in this division aren’t they from on the domestic scene and sheev’s just been like this this is the moment where he make I think he makes a statement and he goes right I’m the British champion now let’s go yeah well he made the statement last time out didn’t he against Tomy mcard over in Belfast that was a good statement Tomy I know Tommy McCarthy’s got a few losses on there but to get over there and just smash him to bit in his hometown where he would have been motivated was a big win for Chevon Clark um it’s just Ellis Zoro now needs to make sure he’s not defined by that one round against jaop atre he’s got to come back and go right this is domestic level I was you know one of the top kids at domestic level before I took a world title fight I’ve got to take that experience and use it as a positive jeevon Clark’s never fought at that level okay I was only at that level briefly for the moment of minutes but still he’s got to come back and treat this like he is the aside whether that’s true or not I’m not actually sure I don’t think he is the a sid but LS zoro’s just G to go up there use that height use that reach don’t get involved early on if I’m Chev Clark mate you’ve seen the blueprints just do you think just [ __ ] fly at him you’re a big finisher you got heavy hands Z’s gonna as much as he got listen World title Apper Tire best on the planet I can live with that right bring on Chev Clark if I’m Chev Clark I’m like I’m gonna do exactly what J appy did to you I’m gonna hit you hard early and then I’m G to smash you to bits so if I was Chev Clark I would start fast if I was Zoro stay on your bike get a couple of rounds in the tank it’s a 12 rounder this Chev Clark’s never done a 12 rounder before yes good point good point if Zoro can get the fight deep then who knows but I think he’s going to struggle to get through six rounds if I’m totally honest with you um lowkey potential fight of the night potential fight of the night yeah kly versus Patera he’s got a lot to prove for me still as Gary KY yeah he’s H listen there’s power we see it we’ve seen it we’ve seen him not dudes out and he’s got that excitement Factor hasn’t he you know and uh but because defensively I think he’s really raw yeah that obviously lends even more so to him being an exciting watch I like watching there’s no doubt about that I’m just thinking about him going forward and trying to achieve big things in in the game P’s former European champman been him with some good kids Kon recently I know that he lost to Kon but he took him the distance mate you know what I mean he’s if you’re dancing all the way with Kean deris then you’re obviously an operator you know what you’re doing um I think weight above as well in Newcastle so he’s been to Britain before he’s upset the odds before I think C is up against it I really I think he’s going to get asked some serious questions this weekend and cly has to show some serious development um from his last I know that he what was it a couple of fights ago now that he lost I know he’s had one on the bounce back hasn’t he where he got a victory he’s got he’s got to he’s got to show some it this weekend because that’s a proper fight yeah I think listen he he got exposed did by Felix he got clipped on the Chain he stuck his chair in the air and thought he could punch his way out of it he can only learn from that that’s not a that’s not not NE learn from that experience and come back that’s what I’m saying last time out back end of last year he goes to ward in peace with Reese M and wins on a split decision close fight ree mold really asked some questions Rees mold came in not to Chin him but to outbox him and G cley still had the hangover of the Jose Felix fight hanging over his head and it took him a while to get going and he had to grind that one out and that was you know really close decision but this weekend against patata he just needs a clean Victory whether it’s a knockout or a one he just needs that for his confidence I don’t know whether patara is that guy man I don’t know whether he’s the type of guy listen I [ __ ] ain’t complaining Eddie I’m a big fan your Matchmaker it’s a great fight and I’m all for this I don’t want Gary cly to suddenly go back and beat up some l v and Bin man he’s at a level let’s keep him at that level and see how he gets to I thought the re mold was a little bit of a go on and get back on the horse he struggled now it’s like we can’t just [ __ ] give you layups kid got to see what you want let’s get you in a proper fight Patera comes to win as I say he’s been here before he’s won big before I think it’s a really dangerous fight but I’m a big fan of the fight because if Gary Cy comes through this Bo we’re back where we were before the Felix fight yeah good matchmaking like you said also good matchmaking and oh man I feel actually sick talking about this because you know that I love Lewis riten I think he’s a [ __ ] Dynamite Geer but everything I’ve watched the uh young paty Donovan recently I’m like going I bre I was you know when you do that breathing over your teeth you thinking yeah um do you know like I what the way that I’ve just spoken about Chev Clark and he’s coming A age night against Ellis Zoro yeah I feel I feel very similar to this fight I think Paddy Donovan on paper you’re look at it you go oh pad Donovan’s fighting Los and this will be good yeah but Patty Donovan’s special man you’ve only just got to watch him you just got to watch him for a small period of time to think look at that feet are in the right place always hands beautiful defense good he’s being Tau by [ __ ] Andy Leaf crying out loud you know what I mean kid can crack puts people away ritson’s great man I mean look at the record of riten don’t matter who it is I’ll fight you whever man he’s he has it with everybody doesn’t he he he never shies away from a fight he’s an absolute Dynamite of a human being did really well at light now he’s up at 140 and he had he’s had some good wins in there teaching in a couple fights ago great Victory good stuff but he looked he looked way off it against the hard Davis last time out and that is still in the back of my head and if that version of Lewis riton is is still here and that turns up on Saturday I think Patty Donovan gets a moment where the world then goes [ __ ] H Patty Donovan’s here yeah well not to say I told you so but paty Donovan was my one to watch was that last last year you definitely mentioned him yeah he he was my one to watch I think it either last year or this year so that’s that that’s other than the main event being [ __ ] awesome that is a very strong reason why I’m simply jumping on the the motorway and getting over to lead to myself this weekend because I really think Patty Donovan is something very special um I think he’s really Founders Founders range now as well four consecutive Knockouts he comes into this fight on the back of he’s get real energy real big Support over in Ireland I think you’re right I think Andy Lee this could be we know Andy’s an exciting young trainer he’s working with some big names of course he’s completely taking around the career of Joe Parker as well as many others but I feel like Paddy Donovan and they’re from the same Hometown this is his real face like this his baby yeah carve this kid out of stone I took him from the amateurs and basically here I am with him now and we’re going to become he’s going to become a superstar and I think he will become a superstar I think he’s showing all the hall marks of somebody can go an awful long way not only can he fight like [ __ ] he looks fantastic he’s got this whole big Community behind him as well if you remember when we talked about Paddy Donovan at the start of the year and I was like he might want to watch you something special blah blah blah you said you said if they can just keep this kid in the gym and away from any distractions he goes along long way and I I’m just going to reiterate that Andy Lee’s just got to keep this kid focused on the bigger piit and if he keep him focused I believe he fights for the world title one day I’m gutted that he’s fighting L Lewis riten in regards to yeah I love Lewis written I’ve got so much time for him I’ve been blessed enough to spend time in Lewis Ron’s house drink T drink tea with him eat biscuits you know play with his kids in his living room just I was up there interviewing him he is an absolute Diamond of a fell him and his dad I only want good things for Lewis riten but unfortunately this is boxing and unfortunately sometimes good guys don’t get what they deserve and eventually the sport will quew you up and spit you out and right now Lewis is in very precarious situation where this is this fight’s not even at 140 bro this is at 147 this is at welterweight this is Lewis coming up again to 147 but o you know at the end of the day Lewis is in a situation where after the loss to all hard of Davis where do you go you go from being the guy in the main event in the posters in Newcastle and Sunderland and promoters coming and going right we’re going to build this show around you Lewis yeah to when you get a certain level of defeat you no longer have that draw power that with all due respect you go right you got two options here either you go down to your call and you fight on an undercard you take on a journeyman and we try and do a slow rebuild somewhere or you go to leads and fight a kid who’s undefeated that’s got loads of noise behind them and by the way it’s the weight division above what you want to do with your career and it’s like a shotgun approach to go [ __ ] it man I’d rather go in with someone quality out of me death a little bit but have the opportunity to completely turn the career around with a big win rather than going away at this stage of his career and trying to rebuild on the road with three or four fight so I understand why Lewis Is Here Yeah but I really think that Paddy Donovan has has been given an opportunity here to as you say get the name on a resume that he at this point in time lacks it’s going to be interesting to see how Lewis has done this Camp then if it’s at 147 because if you remember when he teamed up with Ricky Burns that discipline was there then listen L will tell you he sneaks a chocolate bar every now and again sneaks a can of Coke every now and again you know what I mean yeah that’s what he used to do back in the day even at light that’s what he used to do then he seemed up with Ricky Burns who doesn’t take any of that [ __ ] he is absolutely the most focused dude that you’ll ever meet Ricky Burns [ __ ] Leck thistles and choose what I love him man runs [ __ ] marathons on the day of a fight and [ __ ] you know what I mean he’s just awesome but that rubbed off really well with ls and you saw with some of the performances his Fitness and the way that he would like this I keep saying the zti in in fight great superb man yeah is it is that still the case because if it is if he has been disciplined and he’s done the weight right and he’s done the camp right he’s still a [ __ ] live dog man because the kick can crack and he can box he’s his boxing is underestimated so I think it’s a great fight I think it’s a coming of AG for Patty Donovan but I think it’s a great fight if if if the Lewis riton turns up Patty Donovan’s gonna have some serious questions to answer Big Time excited for it anything else in Lees that you want to highlight before I take us to Poland no just like leads good night out good night I’ll be driving unfortunately so but so I won’t be playing out but I’ll certainly have a little be Mega Man I think you’re in for one of the atmospheres of the year um over in Poland um got yeah this is on Friday night by the way rosanski against a coli uate World title that’s it don’t use that word again on this show but I had to highlight it because that’s what the fight is it’s not even it’s not even acknowledged by box W well done box W do not acknowledge it it’s [ __ ] [ __ ] it’s utter [ __ ] as a world title in it utter [ __ ] um but it is from a Lawrence AI point of view this is obviously he ain’t G to stay here and defend this forever this is a step so this is right okay just lost me titles down at Cruiser cool okay I’m not staying at Cruiser we’re going to go up so let’s do this in steps we’ll do it against a a guy that can do a bit who can crack a bit sound and then I would imagine that he’s next fight after this if it all goes well at the weekend is going to be uh in the heavyweight division call taking on ransin now we’ve all seen ranski recently couple of first round Knockouts this fell a he big lad is he muscles on muscles this fell big old unit he’s got should shoulders as big as my head H and he can crack a bit somebody gets babit didn’t we um but I’m really looking forward to see what Lawrence AI with Joe Gallagher looks like Joe Gallagher knows what he’s dealing with Lawrence just needs to he’s got all the attributes he just needs them refining needs them polishing and he needs to use them properly and if he listens to Joe gallagan and I’m sure he has been doing um Joe will will get the very best out of lawrencei the kiun hit very very hard and if he time and if he times one I think uh he’ll get he’ll get himself a stoppage but rosanski man he’s at home he’s in front of his own people everybody’s going to be [ __ ] going wild it’s going to be like a cauldron how does Lawrence deal with all of that and this rosansky fow he’s going to run at him so if Lawrence can weather that stor for what three or four rounds I think he could be in yeah that’s a good point actually the fact that you know this is the first fight Lawrence has had overseas since uh the Rio Olympics his entire care fight career has been in the UK so that’s we’re going to see some questions answered there because you’re right it a it isn’t the Lawrence ay show it isn’t all sunshine and rainbows it’s going to be you know deep as dark as Poland rosanski is a name over there they obviously selling him as a as an attraction a big world champion over there he’s he’s as far as I know he spent most of his career figh in Poland he won this piece of ship belt in Poland as well this is his hometown this res or whatever it’s called sorry if I’ve just butchered your home time you absolutely just butchered it I think o z s z you know for well that it won’t pronounced like that it’s like the way that Yan y j is actually written doesn’t look anything like that does it anyway it’s his hometown all his boys are gonna be there’s a new podcast coming your way Nick speaks Polish there’s a new one exactly yeah you know the the bar rosansky wakes in as a doorman probably be closed that night so all the patrons will be in there that’s that’s [ __ ] unreal that’s well when I watch that fight with babich let’s be honest babich if he isn’t already a y’s dor and he will be soon that’s the level of you’re a bad man you can’t listen he’s a professional athlete man he’s funny and he’s you know I I get he’s got a bit of a following and all that kind of stuff but he’s obviously Johnny Fisher we’ll talk about that in a minute there you go he’s of a certain level it is what it is but rans yet in there and and blew him away in one round I remember that fight it was [ __ ] horrible to watch because babich as I say is pretty rubbish and ransi just threw big bombs and then ELD that’s my fear that’s probably the the rosanski performance performance when he beat babich he just held and clubbed him and then the referee breaked him and he’ H and Club again and in the end he caught him with one and then babit just completely unraveled obviously and and that was the end of the fight my theory here is that aoli likes to throw an old throw an old as well so it could be the ugliest fight in the history of fight Sports it really could um but I also Jo Gallagher’s got him keeping it Long Bang jab how many coaches have tried now with Lawrence okay and May listen Joe could be someone this is why he keeps getting very high-profile trainers because you know Joe’s a former Ring magazine trainer of the Year let’s not let’s not take that [ __ ] Accolade Away Joe is one of the best trainers on the planet the reason AI keeps getting opportunities with these trainers because the raw ingredients are day yeah he’s big he’s tall he can whack he did it he’s done every Everything asked of him he’s done up until a Chris bam Smith loss regardless of performance on ER Lawrence AI should be everyone’s favorite boxer British Commonwealth European World title [ __ ] perfect absolutely perfect but of course we talk about something called the ey test on this show a lot aloni is one of the worst fighters to watch because of that punch clinch kind of style that he’s got he’s so frustrating but every coach has the same mentality I’ll coach him out of that I’ll take him out of that and right now Joe they might have done amazing work and listen I had an exchange with Joe and Joe said to me couldn’t have asked any more of the kid came out to Saudi to train been here to train he’s been fantastic a little sponge in the gym he’s a delight and I I’ve got no reason to believe that isn’t the case I think every other coach has said Lawrence AI was brilliant to be around the problem is as good as he might be in the gym as F I’ve got him he ain’t olding no more kids I’ve had him sparring I’ve had him doing this on the pads you wait and see Lawrence AI 2.0 let’s go wait and until you see this and then L Lawrence revers the type because the bright lights because the fact there cameras everywhere because the Arena’s full of people it’s a safety phas kind of approach to buom no come here then I’ll just hold on to you now so it’s I’m out of danger that you’ve got to coach that out of him that’s going to be really difficult with lwen o Coy but then again that style that works in the heavyweight division Tyson Fury is a bit of a punch hold fighter you’ll he’ll throw bombs and when you get closer he’ll just tie you up so do you want to get that out of him completely knowing his destination heavyweights I don’t know anyway regardless this fight this weekend Lawrence AI will knock out rosanski inside six rounds if he doesn’t I don’t know what to tell you man ranski is a he’s a heavyduty guy he’s got dangerous hands but he’s a pudding and the card’s pretty poor as well it’s just a lot of Polish dudes knocking over a lot of labian taxi drivers there you go um Mark efon is fighting in Canada this weekend against Christian Andy Quebec mate telling you and be is no joke he’s an absolute Beast been super impressed with everything that he has done so far don’t get me wrong there’s no major names on that resume as of yet I think he’s done 26 he’s got about 20 odd Knockouts or something like that um M fell short against Jack Cullen I think we were there that night when that happened um and now he’s got an opportunity to go over there and fight this absolute monster in Quebec listen fa play it with me man shoot your shot go and roll the dice go and have a little bit of a go with it Mark can crack we know that he can crack he’s going to have to he’s going to have to knock him out that’s basically how he how he wins the fight whether he can or whether he can’t I don’t know the answer to that I would heavily buy K Bey who has to if he comes through Mark E which I think he will do has to uh be be knocking on the door for some seriously big fights in this division because the kid’s brilliant yeah yeah and Billy’s we’ve known about Billy for a long time obviously he’s a for Olympic athletes went to the Rio Olympics just like Lawrence o COI um didn’t medal but you know had a vast amateur experience um fighting out of France now oh fighting out of Quebec now sorry is was a French cameroonian um and he hasn’t put a foot wrong in the Pro ranks as you said he’s not really got to that level yet but he’s 26 wins in 22 Knockouts if you even look at the points wins that he’s had you know his points wins Carlos gongor vaugh Alexander you know vaugh Alexander back in the day was a was a quality operator look they had 100 to 90 points decisions as well so it’s not like even when he has gone a distance he’s at to week it out he’s just [ __ ] absolutely schooling people so I think he is incredibly talented he is a big star it’s a huge ask for Mark efon a huge ask but you know sometimes in life you’ve just got to roll a dice haven’t you sometimes in life you just got to go for it it’s a big opportunity for Mark efon who isn’t you know shy and throwing his hands himself he’s got a decent knockout record as well yeah who knows man that’s Saturday night as well isn’t it Saturday night from Quebec um M does on the undercard is he yes that’s right yeah smashed him yeah so it’s on ESPN in the US I’m not sure whether it’s on anywhere in the UK hopefully it finds its way to Sky Sports but yeah that’s a big ask for Mark efon but may go for it kid got nothing to lose yep are you done with the previewing fights cuz we got a few bits of news to cheuck out yep yep let’s talk about [ __ ] the big one shora versus Joyce get me a ticket get me a ticket for that right now uh I think it’s best um given the Antics this week of a certain boxing promoter that I don’t speak about that particular fight because last thing I want is uh to be catching Strays once again um thing will I am Bela I’d have put that as the poster I’d buy a ticket to see that that that rematch that need that was good fight i’ have made that the main event to be honest with you because uh as much as we love joy Joe Joyce and as much as a character Jer chisora has been over the years Jesus Christ that is definitely a fight to watch from home so you can you know you know when you can fast forward youri hit one Arrow just so it’s in speed and then you know might be it might catch up to normal speed of what what are you going on about it’s the same night that UFC 30 or four is on oh well there you go then there’s absolutely no way there’s only one heavyweight to be watching that night and his name’s Tom aspino done yeah exactly yeah that’s that’s a yor call fight If Ever I he it um one thing that is a positive that came out of that press conference yesterday um the next Magnificent Seven I kind of like these the first one where we saw Heeney beating Denzel Bentley there was some good knocks on that night I’m listen I’m I’m on record saying this and I’m going to keep this narrative going Liam Davis is probably as it stands right now the most exciting British Fighter the rise the rise that he’s going through at the moment is tremendous he’s so exciting he can box the kid he is a bit vulnerable we’ve seen him get off the deck but [ __ ] hell he’s putting people away and he’s putting high level operators away this is a brilliant brilliant fight great bit narrative around it shabbaz massud beat Liam Davis in the amateurs yeah so now that Liam Davis is doing what he’s doing in the Pro game they pitted it up I think it’s a fantastic piece of matchmaking it’s absolutely a fight that I would love to see like I said Liam Davis he is at the moment the most exciting British fighter he’s got a wonderful backstory and he’s just delivering every single time he steps inside the ring so I’m looking forward to that I’m looking forward to heene versus PA’s too because the first one was an absolute belter BR PA brought it didn’t he and he put it on Nathan and Nathan had to answer some serious questions in that fight so I’m glad that they’re running it back very similar narrative the what we said right at maybe not a similar narrative because I thought it was this one’s tighter than Taylor catell but they’re running it back immediately let’s go again um so that’s great to see uh s ders who I’m a big fan of but come on man who you gonna fight well I tell you you’re gonna fight you’re gonna fight David adelay David ad really good piece of matchmaking and then you’ve got Shantel got Shantel Cameron getting in there on her Queensbury debut uh with malled I’m a big fan of Cameron so I think she comes through that relatively straightforward but then you’ve got Ash Ashlin against Andrew Kane you’ll be a big fan of that they went for each other as well at the Press yesterday like they were [ __ ] having it so there’s already a little bit of fire in there that’s a that’s a that’s going to be a fun fight there you go you wish for Ashley Lanea will say but he’s in good form at the moment so why not man very good form um so as a card obviously like I said I’m always is going to speak very highly of Liam Davis and what he’s doing you know that we love Nathan Heeney on the show and I’m happy with that heavyweight contest between there well try to get a bounceback performance against undefeated aln Cooper they’re good fights they’re all good fights a good card yeah very good um Johnny Fischer against Alan babich okay Johnny Fisher you told me is Ace I really like I really like Johnny Fisher he is one day who knows I think I think there’s a lot of heavyweights decent heavyweights knocking around the UK at the moment who are just starting in their careers and you know because of the the amount of noise he gets and the tickets that he sells um and things you say about him being an absolute Diamond I only want good things for the kid but you know I like this the way they kind of maneuvering him a little bit over here a little bit off the radar because there’s a few about listen listen there’s no doubt that this is a profile fight this is this is a profile one but he is taking a proper route hasn’t he’s just become southern area Champion you love all that stuff yeah his Ambitions are listen I want to you know English British that’s these are the levels that I want to be going through this is a bit of like you said this is a bit of fun I would I would imagine that Johnny’s going to come through this um but he’ll definitely get back on the track of going right let’s get me towards the English title and the British title and all that type of carry on it’s a slow process we he’s still a young lad um we don’t know where the ceiling is but I listen I will I’ll say it now I think he will become British champion I hope so as I say right now when you look around you think o there’s a lot of there is but I think they can time it they can it when he becomes briti champ that’s what I mean you know you take him in the direction of an Alan babit and you takes them out to the crosshairs of a lot of the chat at the moment with your Frasier Clarks and and your adays and all this kind of stuff I don’t think he’s ready for he hasn’t got the experience to go over that way but if you take him down the Alan babbit rout and keep his head below you know keep him bubbling along selling tickets doing well and then when the moment’s right to you strike then I think we could get him into a situation where he wins the British title yeah I hope so because as you say I’ve never met the kid um I was put off initially because of his dad and all that Bosch bollocks you say Johnny’s an absolute diamond and I’m like yeah know what your word is good enough for me I hope the kid does well this is the right fight for him I think babit again not a hammer Alan babit old show but babit is obviously he is you’re right and he’s a top guy babit is actually a top guy you know I get it I get what you say regarding the ability level and the eye test and all that type of stuff and listen there’s no backtracking on that everybody sees it but just nice fellas top fellas Alan babbit comes to fight though you know Johnny is only of a certain level it could end up being a good fight that really could yeah um but of all the announcements that have come this week I think that magnificent 71 is the one that jumps off the page that uh that people can get excited about in the not too distant future Julio say Martinez by the way has vacated his WBC flyweight title so that Championship is now vacant I’m sure that’s lit the eyes up of maybe someone like a sunny Edwards who is taking on Adrien Cel Cel coming up in weight isn’t he um Sunny’s on the BAM Rodriguez undercard I think that’s in about five weeks in uh Arizona that’s where he’s going that for the title for the vacant title two no I don’t I don’t I don’t think the I don’t think they’re ranked high enough I think there’s a couple of lads higher than them but what I’m saying is that then maybe that way Sunny will go right okay then I’ll try go down that route and get yeah and get myself get myself back in in that mix there anyway there you go kids that’s uh that’s the show action packed if you’re going to Le this weekend this man will be in attendance sadly I’ve had the phone call for the FA Cup Final Ana so I’ve got to go and work on that so I’ll be in London doing the Tor Catal show from a studio in London is there the rule that talk sport can only employ people with Manchester accents to W on the final is that what it is that’s that’s how it is that’s how it is yeah who’s on more who’s our most northern presenter cat roll’s phone rings every single May time man oh dear there you go so yeah I’ll be doing that but I’ll be uh covering the show from the studio so I can’t I’m a little bit jealous man because I think the atmosphere will be Sensational I really do I think the leads fans it’s a great fight City it’s obviously a bit odd that neither of these guys guys are from that City and they’ve gone for neutral territory but as a fighting City lead’s always delivers do it and it’s got that football background too where Josh wars’s crowd or all that they’ll all be out Force mate it’ll be absolutely pumping I won’t be surprised if warrington’s there front front and center we St [ __ ] bigger mate getting 100% uh so yeah make sure you uh obviously watch the fights this weekend and we’ll be back we’ll try and do what we did last week we’ll try and do an immediate reaction like maybe Sunday morning or something like that so people can fight man it deserves it get stuck in straight away um let’s hope we’re talking about the quality of the fight and nothing else oh fingers crossed fingers crossed and listen both geers at the end of this you want we all want to sit here Sunday morning go you know that’s how you deal with it two top Lads well done fantastic stuff top fight brilliant he’s Lords left in him Lords left in him they’re both going in this direction and who knows well let’s have another one there you go you never know uh make sure you subscribe to the channel you can do it via that red box that’s underneath window just click that L you two where subscrib is here on YouTube we’re here every single week talking boxing and MMA and if you just want an audio feed if you’d like to listen in the car or at work or something like that you can do via our website fight disciples. comom there’s a link to that in the description of this video if you click it it’ll take you straight to our website and then you can choose Spotify Google play Apple whatever you want you can get it there all right thank you very much for tuning into to us we’ll catch you next 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