Diddy assault video, Scottie Scheffler arrest, the roots of rap beef w/ Dr. Michael Eric Dyson, more

Stephen A. talks about NBA playoff action. He also comments on the recently released video of music mogul Sean Diddy Combs assaulting then-girlfriend Cassie Ventura, and the arrest of pro golfer, Scottie Scheffler. Professor Dr. Michael Eric Dyson also joins the show to discuss President Biden’s loss of Black voters and the Drake/Kendrick rap beef.

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Diddy: 1:00
Scheffler: 18:00
NBA Playoffs: 27:00
Michael Eric Dyson: 40:00

what’s up everybody Welcome to the latest edition of the Stephen A Smith show coming at you as I love to do every weekday over the digital Airwaves of YouTube um usually I’m getting into sports first usually I’m sitting up there telling you about my book I’m telling you about my subscribers never failing to give thanks and proper gratitude to those who have supported me because I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for y’all uh but at the end of the day I’m in the news business and there’s some news that’s popping off right now that is simply unavoidable there’s no way to slice it and it has nothing to do with sports I wanted to clear right here over these digital Airwaves of YouTube that the career of sha P Diddy Colmes as we know it it’s over this [ __ ] is over is over in the worst possible way one of the worst possible ways you can imagine these are the latest developments okay exclusive surveillance video obtained by CNN appears to show the music mogul assaulting his then girlfriend Cassie ventur at a hotel in 2016 in the video coms can be seen striking and kicking venturer as she tried to leave I have the video right in front of me we can’t can’t show it to you we can’t show it to you but I’m watching this with the sound off as we speak she’s walking down the hallway in a hoodie y’all clearly trying to sneak out of the hotel room we see him come sprinting down the hallway in just a towel that’s it he goes up to her he snatches her by the neck Yanks her to the ground She lays there still okay I’m looking at the video I’m looking at the video while I’m talking to you he snatches up by the neck unless this is some lookalike unless it’s some clone unless this is somebody that that that that that’s like for Mission Impossible like Tom Cruz wearing somebody else’s face looking exactly like them when it ain’t them at all unless there’s something along those lines this is what we’re looking at here and I see you see the Stills right there in the screen and I get that but I’m telling you right now I’m watching this as we speak and I’ve seen this video now because I want to make sure I know what I’m looking at this is about the 10th time that I looked at it he runs down he snatches her body neck he Yanks It To The Ground She lays still then he launches a kick towards her like he’s kicking a damn field goal picks up the vase or whatever she had with her kicks her again hits her She lays still and then after that he grabs her and drags her down the hallway and then there’s additional video showing him sitting in the hotel room picking up stuff throwing it at her ladies ladies and gentlemen I cover Sports primarily that’s my day job remember Ray Rice remember what happened like 2014 when his girl was in the elevator and she either shoved him or hit him and then he checked left hooked her and hit her and knocked her face into the bar inside the elevator she hit her head to it and then she laid on the floor unconscious in the elevator straight up knocked out and then after that he didn’t even pick her up and he dragged out of the elevator this video allegedly supposedly presumably seemingly whatever word appropriate with P Diddy Sean P Diddy Comes This is worse we saw both videos we saw the video from Atlantic City where Ray Rice years ago we saw that many times over we saw the you know the collateral impact it had on the NFL the World of Sports and Beyond because it heightened a level of sensitivity towards domestic violence and showed that level of awareness to such a degree that it permeates our thoughts and our minds Hearts to this day and age in this day ladies and gentlemen this is worse I’m looking at the video again this is worse no wonder he settled the case with Cassie Ventura one day after she filed a suit against him one day no wonder you’ve heard about so many different allegations when his homes in Los Angeles and Miami were raided by Homeland Security this is bad this is so bad it’s hard to put in the words I don’t know how P Diddy recovers from this I don’t know if he can the only way is if it’s proven that that video that’s not him that’s not him this the only way there is no other way there’s no other way no wonder we haven’t seen him only time you caught him was somebody’s doing a video with him at a coffee shop I mean at one point in time we were talking about sex trafficking those allegations him being compared to Jeffrey Epstein or whatever but those are allegations which he’s emphatically denied this a video it’s a it’s not it’s not even a picture it’s a video you see him sprinting down the hallway damn sure look like him this ain’t Mission Impossible it look like him it seems to be him and if it’s proven to be him and this video is authentic and we have no reason to believe that CNN of all places would air an inauthentic video flagrantly clearly incriminating P Diddy we have no reason to believe otherwise I think his career is over this ain’t the set the 90s the 80s the 70s the 60s n that [ __ ] don’t fly in this day age you can’t get away with that you never should have been able to ever ever ever in life and sure shouldn’t take a video to speak 10,000 words but damn it it does compare to Word of Mouth or compared to the written word when you see the video it’s an entirely different connotation that comes with a different feeling I might suspect some [ __ ] about you when I hear about it when I see it there’s no way around this this ain’t funny at all and yes that was 2016 well you acting like that in 2016 who’s to believe you didn’t do it in 201 17 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 why would we believe otherwise I’ve had conversations with Pete Diddy over the phone he was an inspiring Sports owner sports team owner was interested in purchasing Charlotte Hornets being a part of a group that would ultimately buy an NBA team I’m not faulting anybody all of these folks with this stupidity faulting the looking for people looking for fault at them because they went to a P Diddy party or whatever I’ve gone to a P Diddy party I never saw him when I got there was so damn crowded but if somebody tell you that’s the place to be and everybody going to the damn party that don’t make you a criminal because you went to the party of somebody who’s alleged to have to be a criminal especially when they W weren’t alleged to be that at the time what about our team seen him at Miami Heat games hell I took a picture with him at a Golden State Warriors NBA Finals game I ain’t know this [ __ ] not this video that I just finished watching 10 times 50 Cent walking around you know trolling to you know where’s Jay-Z I don’t blame anybody for not wanting to be seen with P Diddy right now whether it’s Jay-Z whether it’s fitty whether it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s one of his artist I mean this is the kind this is the kind of stuff that makes you Scurry it makes you run for cover this ain’t words this ain’t sound this ain’t lip service this ain’t articles being written nah this is different this is worse than Ray Rice and Ray Rice never played in the National Football League again nobody’s given him another chance to play football his career ended that day that video was released now P did he got money that Ray Rice never had and with his businesses and what have you that’s fine but I hope he saved a lot of it this is bad y’all CNN breaking news they got it on video breaking news CNN has obtained footage of Diddy repeatedly beating his then girlfriend Cassie in a hotel hallway beat her kicked her grabbed her dragged her threw stuff at her you know recently he was trying to buy be did you know that did you did you know recently given the key to the city by Eric mayor uh uh Eric uh mayor Eric Adams in New York if I remember correctly didn’t he ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange one time I’m not faulting any of those people you don’t know what you don’t know you don’t know something like this is coming down a pike you don’t know that there’s validity the allegations of some of these egregious acts now you start thinking about what sh Knight said in an interview when he was talking about how Diddy better be careful they gonna get him because he’s been successful all of this time he knows all everybody’s secrets and as a result you gonna want people want to hide their secrets he better not end up in jail that’s basically what shook Knight I’m paraphrasing but that’s basically what he was saying it’s a bad day for hip-hop this is after they invaded P did’s home March 29th 2024 according to complex.com Suge Night it’s a bad day for hip-hop for the culture black people because if one looks bad we all look bad that’s definitely not nothing to chair about he continued but I’ll tell you what puffy your life is in danger he says Diddy 54 at the time knows the secrets and because of that they’re going to get you if they can this from Shug Knight it’s from sh Knight this is bad and I believe in the day and age that we’re living in ain’t no coming back from this you ain’t gota worry about nobody coming to his parties he’d have a he’d have a tough time with somebody wanting to be seen with him in a Starbucks unless it’s 60 Minutes to somebody this is bad I’m just reporting y’all what I’m saying and I’m telling you based on what I just saw now this it’s indefensible it’s indefensible it’s indefensible period but especially if you love women a daughter or daughters a sister or sisters a mama aunts cousins colleagues friends it don’t matter in excusable indefensible indefensible watch the video watch the video Ain’t No Way Around It Ain’t No Way Around It when you saw this video when you see this video you know what you gonna Wonder when’s he getting arrested it’s eight years ago and what he was doing was so bad it’s going to make you say wise ass ain’t arrested I take no joy in saying this I’m a fan of P Diddy’s music I’m a fan of his career I’m a fan of the Great things that he’s accomplished he’s always been cool with me when on a rare occasion we cross paths but I never saw this video ain’t no coming back from this I ain’t no endorsement deals ain’t no commercials I guess in the hip-hop industry anybody got a chance to make another album or whatever how many people you think going to buy it damn that’s all I have left to say damn damn let me move on to golf for a quick second because it’s about something that happened off the course not on the golf course more specifically lead the PGA Championship where world number one golfer Scotty Sheffer was arrested by Louisville Police heading into Valhalla Golf Club this morning it happened obviously this morning as traffic was stopped outside the club after a man was struck and killed by a shuttle bus according to ESPN reporter Jeff Darlington who witnessed the incident Sheffer was trying to drive around the crash scene on a median an officer instructed Sheffer to stop but Sheffer continues to drive about 10 to 20 yards towards the entrance here’s sound from the incident listen up here guys guys guys uhuh step back back up I’m back I’m back one right guys what do we I’m staying back here’s the thing right now right now he’s going to jail okay okay he’s going to jail and it ain’t nothing you can do about it period there’s there’s nothing you can do about it okay I okay now do you have a question I’m a I’m media I’m a reporter okay that’s all I’m I just want to make sure that’s okay but you need to step back over here now no problem you got it okay okay before I give my opinion let me just say that Sheffer was arrested and hit with several charges which include second deegree assault of a police officer third degree criminal mischief reckless driving and disregarding traffic signals from an officer directing traffic here’s a statement from Scotty Sheffer himself the world’s number one player who bought away has spent the LA spent like 87 weeks as the world’s number one player over the last uh two years or so he said quote this morning I was proceeding as directed by police officers it was a very chaotic situation understandably so considering the tra tragic accident that had occurred earlier and there was a big misunderstanding of what I thought I was being asked to do I never intended to disregard any of the instructions I’m hopeful to put this to the side and focus on golf today of course all of us involved in the tournament express our deepest sympathies to the family of the man who passed away in an earlier accident this morning it truly puts everything into perspective end quote Scotty Sheffer deserve to be arrested let’s get that out the way first a police officer is dragged on the side of your car 15 to 20 yards on its face it seems perfectly plausible that an arrest is warranted because it shouldn’t have taken you 15 to 20 yards to stop while an officer was hanging onto your vehicle that’s on its face it does come with a little bit of trickiness however number one it was chaotic out there number two it wasn’t just police officers that had on those yellow jerseys that you see on that screen right there it was also folks who were working to direct traffic and obviously the PGA Tour is there number three we want to act like everybody gets treated the same all I ask that we grow up and understand that’s not true you’re the number one golfer in the world the police is saying according to Jeff Darlington who I interviewed this morning by the way during my day job on ESPN’s First Take ISS every weekday morning from 10 a.m. to 12: new n Standard Time on ESPN Jeff Darlington my colleague at ESPN was on the show and he said one of the officers came up to him afterwards cuz he was the one playing it on this camera he said one of the officers came up to him afterwards and asked who is it like who’s the guy just arrested so they didn’t know presumably they didn’t know that was the world’s number one golfer you I tell you what you did know you did know that the traffic that was out there wasn’t just because of the crash or the accident that killed The Pedestrian got arrested soul but also you know those folks were out there was coming to the PGA it’s traffic out there for a reason in Louisville Kentucky they were coming to the PGA and you also know that golfers because according to my colleagues at ESPN guys like Mar you you know um Michael EES and others pointed out to me each golfer is giving a car they don’t get they don’t they’re not given a driver but each of them are given a car and on each car States the official uh uh PGA Tour it’s got that em blazoned on the back that is what I was told this morning by my buddy Michael E who does a great job covering golf for us he said um golfers are giv free cars for the week but they are not assigned people to drive them the officer is saying that Sheffer disobeyed his orders and then dragged him to the ground with his car causing injuries to the officer and his clothing Chef was saying he didn’t know the guy was a cop the cop is evidently saying otherwise if he knew that that was an officer automatic arrest automatic felony charge that’s the way it goes it’s the way it goes if he didn’t know that’s a different animal that means the officer didn’t identify himself I’m simply saying what the hell are you doing driving a car 20 feet 15 to 20 yards rather knowing somebody is clinging to the damn car why would you keep driving so I’m not trying to pretend or act as if sheffer’s innocent I’m just saying we don’t know all the details what I will say is that the world’s number one golfer doesn’t need to get yanked out of a car right at the entrance of the event slammed up against their car and ultimately cuffed and essentially per walked I do know that I would not be surprised if heads rolled with a couple of those police officers because the number one golfer in the world was treated that way and obviously that compromise the event now that wasn’t the reason the event was stalled for an hour and a half but ultimately when something like that happens and a Tour event which attracts folks to its event which is good for the local economy if that’s compromised somebody’s going to pay a price for that so it’ll be interesting to see what happens I don’t know if something will ever happen to the officers I don’t know if something should happen to them because we don’t know all the details and most importantly I don’t know if something were to end up happening in one of the officers if not several of them in any regard that we would know because they’re not public figures so how much Intel would we get about that if something if they were reprimanded in any way it did seem a bit excessive I must admit I don’t think that was necessary but then again if you pissed the officer off because you’re dragged in 15 to 20 feet that’s how goes I don’t know what more to say other than that but it was a shocking day of events to say the least I’ll leave it at that coming up Donald Trump appears to be gaining support among black voters I’ll get into all of that that means the black vote what we’re doing with it what we plan on doing it with it what we should do with it I’ll get into that discussion with the great Dr Michael Eric Dyson he’ll be up next plus the t-wolves force a game seven against the defending World Champs and the Knicks have a chance to make it to the Eastern Conference Finals I got all the playoff action ahead so stick around don’t go anywhere you’re watching the Stephen A Smith show right here over the digital Airwaves of YouTube [Music] okay everybody you know what time it is it’s time for Stephen A’s weekly picks if you already haven’t heard I’ve teamed up with the biggest fantasy sports game in all the land that’s priz picks y’all to bring you my favorite Sports predictions prize picks is a skill-based fantasy game where you select two or more players and predict if they’ll have more or less than their stat projections for the game it’s not only easy to make your picks but incredibly fast and you can do it in 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rebounds assists this is the easy one more cuz Jaylen Bronson been killing the Indianapolis coach the Indiana Paces rather okay been killing them all right so you know whether it’s points of rebounds Al loone he gonna have for 45 or points and assist alone rather and then you add in a few rebounds because he gonna get up in there he gonna bang gonna do what he got to do yes it’s going to be more than 45 for Jaylen Brunson how about Pascal seaka for the Indiana Pacers more or less than 32 and a half points rebounds assist I think he’s going to be a key pivotal figure tonight I think Rick car is going to go to him particularly with ogan anobi out they’re going to look to attack him he’s been struggling from the free throw line a little bit too much but that don’t mean he ain’t going to give you more than 32 and a half with the combination of points rebounds and assist I think he’s going to do that he’s a champion it’s a game six their playoff lives on the line Pascal seakan a champion with the Toronto Raptors years ago when he was teammates with kawh Leonard I think he answers the call I think you take more in this particular situation than last but not least OB toppen former New York Nick now a member of the Indiana Pacers more or less than nine and a half points I’m going to go with more Obby toppic can play by the way he can shoot okay he can shoot he can definitely finish at the basket and he can finish in an open court I’m not saying it’s gonna be a whole lot more than nine and a half points but would I take more than for nine and a half points would Obi topping instead of less yes I would I’m going to go with more in this particular situation so again let’s review my picks so you’ll understand what it’s all about less for Alex Burke at the 10 and a half points more for jayen Brunson at the 45 points rebounds assists more for Pascal seaka with the 32 and a half points rebounds and assists and more of Obi toppen at just nine and a half points those are my picks for tonight check them out feel free to chime in and say Stephen A thank you for looking out for us we wouldn’t have known what to do without you welcome back to Stephen A Smith show right here over the digital Airways with YouTube let’s get to the NBA Playoffs please and the race out west where Anthony Edwards and the t-wolves beat the living hell out of the Denver Nuggets last night by 45 points they were up 50 one by 45 Edwards L Minnesota with 27 points and was a plus minus 45 in just 34 minutes on the floor the T wolves have now forced the game seven in Denver on Sunday for a chance to go to the Western Conference Finals some key injuries of note Jamal Murray suffered the right elbow injury after bumping in Rudy go B of course Anthony Edwards fell in his back but says he’ll be ready to go on Sunday um I was shocked at what I witnessed Anthony Edwards is such a stud I’m gonna say this though game sevens are different it’s Anthony Edwards first game seven it’s called Anthony towns first game seven Rudy go has only been in two and he split one and one in each of them and OB the way Mike connley your veteran point guard that Anthony Edwards loves so much his career in game sevens are 0 and four averaging 13 points and 32% shooting and 23% from three-point range which is nothing to write home about they’re in Denver for a game seven now the Minnesota Timberwolves defense amps it up like no others they’re the best defense in the NBA this year and they put the clamps on Denver yesterday no question about it and call Anthony towns obviously made some jump shots or whatever but it was really about Anthony Edwards and it was about their Collective defensive prowers they were absolutely Sensational they were on the Denver Nuggets like piranhas and the Denver Nuggets had absolutely positively no answer the thing for me though was this I saw a whole bunch of missed shots I saw Jamal Murray open first half he shoots one for 10 I saw Michael Porter open he was missing I saw kentavius Carwell Pope open he was missing I saw Aaron Gordon open he was missing is that really what you expect to happen in the game seven I don’t I think they make some of those shots rather than miss them with those familiar rims that they play in 41 regular season nights a year and I think that Denver is going to have his work cut out for it but let me tell you something that don’t mean they can’t win this game they were down 02 and you saw what they did to Minnesota over the next three games and then Minnesota shows up again and now that they’ve shown up again and they’ve even the series at 33 again they’ve never been in the game seven they’ve never been in the game seven and we going to find out a couple of things we going to find out about Anthony Edwards we gonna find out about Carl Anthony towns we can’t say we gonna find out anything about Denver because they’re the reigning defending Champions but we gonna find something out because here’s what I noticed y’all did you see Nico yic just standing there he wouldn’t sit down for for a long time he was just standing there on the sidelines staring down at Minnesota as they continue to run up the score and just obliterate the Denver Nuggets you don’t think a three-time league MVP like that got that kind of Pride you don’t think a champion like that got a kind that kind of Pride did you see what Denver did in coming back 02 you don’t think they got that kind of Pride because I’m here to tell you they do and I think that Nicole yic is g to show up and he’s going to show up big time for game seven but I think Anthony Edwards is going to show up too he just that dude there was MJ there was Kobe and then there’s him and that’s a big deal coming from somebody like me because I saw incredible Talent throughout the years Vince cter is going into the Hall of Fame he’s an incredible Talent the best in-game dunker I’ve ever seen and and he stuck around for 20 years within NBA career one of the nicest human beings you’ll ever meet what’s the one knock against Vince Carter that that attitude that umph that goget it mentality that dog in him he ain’t had that because he was such a nice guy and that’s what we saw did you see Anthony Edwards at the press conference last night the podium and you saw when they asked him did you say something to the folks in the Denver locker room when y’all lost game five he said hell yeah I did I told those [ __ ] see see you game seven that’s what I said I’m quoting him I’m not cussing I’m quoting him I told those [ __ ] see you game seven we’ll be back hell yeah and then got up his attitude is different and he wants it and we’re going to see whether or not he can deliver it make no mistake about it because you know Michael Malone got something up his sleeve that he saved for a game seven he ain’t gonna show all his cards but I’m telling you right now it can’t just be the Anthony Edward show now here’s the difference we talked about supplementary Parts showing up and helping out but in Anthony Edward’s case he got to show up first because you need his greatness to match that of yic so it can even the scales and then you set the table for somebody else to step in and do what they supposed to do that’s what we’re talking about here with Anthony Edwards and it’s going to be real interesting to see what transpired because I’m here to tell you right now Minnesota could lose Denver could beat the brakes off of them but Denver has shown us they could do the same I’m sorry Minnesota has shown us they could do the same to Denver I can’t wait for this game seven this is special now I’m hoping the next team I talk about doesn’t have to go to a game seven and that’s my New York Knicks okay because they head into Indianapolis tonight for game six and a chance to close out the series the last time the Knicks played there was Sunday when they got blown out by 32 on Mother’s Day Okay Mother’s Day Massacre is what they call it tonight they have a chance to avenge that loss and they’ll likely have to do it without OG and and no he’s still nursing his hamstring injury I’m going to tell you this Indiana has no answer for jayen Brunson the way he’s bust them heart’s ass and the rest of the Indiana Pacers he actually should be arrested for assault his damn self I’m being factious of course but Jaylen Brunson has been nothing short of of abusing Defenders from Indiana so much so that you got Chris Carlile the head coach cussing out people in in press conferences because he ain’t really cussing at them he’s cursing at his own team they looked soft they look like they didn’t want it they was fumbling and bumbling the ball all over the place commit turnovers at every turn jayen Brunson meanwhile C over dribble step back threes St of stepp and stepping back moving forward evasive measure I mean damn he was busting their ass having said all of that he can’t be the key tonight it’s gonna have to be Josh hard and Dante D chenzo see you don’t want a game seven on one hand and I oppos this to a lot of people listen to my logic here initially I was thinking don’t you want want time to prepare for Boston that’s what I was thinking that doesn’t necessarily matter now but Josh Hart and Dante D venzo are going to be Keys Dante D venzo shot is going to be key his shot making ability he needs to hit those threes when he’s open for it so his shot making ability is one way to go here’s the other Josh Hart’s heart his guts his willingness to go get that damn basketball no matter who is who’s it up against Josh Hart got to bring out that game in him tonight close out games are always the most difficult and that’s what Josh Hart’s going to have to deal with he can’t have three rebounds like he did in in game four on Mother’s Day he’s got to have the 18 rebounds he had in game three when the New York Knicks nearly pulled it out and it took a miracle from nard from 31 feet to save the day we can’t put ourselves in that situation again that’s what the New York Knicks have to do Josh Hart Dante defense chzo they are the keys they’re the keys to the success for the New York Knicks you get production from them not to shf aside hardenstein because you need his offensive rebounds he had 12 in game five but you need additional weapons if you the New York Knicks stepping up other than Brunson because I think Indiana will be better prepared for that tonight Brunson alone won’t be enough somebody else have to give you something so we can get that out the way too now before I go to break I want to bring this up about Kyrie Irving he plays on the Dallas Mavericks um who are up 32 on this series after beating Oklahoma City in game five my man Shay Gil just Alexander is not disappointed me four straight games of 30 points or more in which he’s averaging 32 points on 51% shooting 45% from three-point range along with nine rebounds Sixpoint in assists and two and a half blocks per game Shay Gil just Alexander my vote for League MVP he doing his job where Jaylen Williams at where Chad hren at where’s these cats at even though dorton is doing you know a lot of defensive work on Luca donic even though it didn’t work the other night let’s call it what it is but here’s what got me thinking about I might have made the wrong pick with OKC and Dallas will probably win this series this kid Gaffrey got hops is unbelievable athleticism we got that going on we got Luca sore knee sore ankle different legs don’t matter he shows up he drops what he drops we see PJ Washington doing his thing we see Derek Jones catching Ali oops doing his thing but that damn Kyrie Irving is just lurking one of the most prolific scores we’ve ever seen one of the greatest finishers at the basket in NB a history this dude Kyrie Irving is just going in there flying in there for rebounds giving tapouts to Luca donic one minute feeding Tim Hardway Jr the next PJ Washington the next Etc Kyrie’s a showstopper and we know that ain’t his Forte having two points in the first half having six points in the first half stuff like that ladies and gentlemen that ain’t Kyrie Irving at some point an explosion is imminent that’s just how I feel about it I think he’s lurking he’s waiting and the bigger the moment the more he will shine and in Dallas for a game six with an opportunity to get to the Conference Finals Kyrie and Luca somebody that I’m gonna look past now no I’m not doing it I’m not doing it I’m sorry coming up I’ll talk to Professor Michael Eric Dyson on what appears to be growing support of black voters to Donald Trump I wasn’t lying to y’all I’m just giving you the facts nothing more listen to Dr Michael Eric Dyson and you’ll know what I’m talking about next right here on a Stephen A M show oh my Lord have you been watching the NBA playoffs cuz you know I have and yes they’ve been fantastic make no mistake about it but do you know what else makes watching them even more exciting even more culating prize picks of course that’s what the hell I’m 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YouTube I wanted to take a little bit of time today to talk a little politics and it is with my next guest Okay the reason we’re talking politics today stems from reports or polls that appear to show former president Donald Trump actually gaining even more support amongst black voters and it seems the polling numbers are not lost on the White House where President Biden will spend this week looking to reverse an erosion of support amongst black voters Biden plans to give a speech this Sunday at Morehouse College in Atlanta Georgia that will aim to increase support among black men a voting block where the president’s support has clearly declined joining me right now is renowned auth auth best-selling author Professor historian the brilliant the one and only Dr Michael Eric Dyson my brother what’s going on my man how you doing how’s everything uh always great to see you my friend you’re the king of media and it’s always good to see you in one of your venues and to share this Spotlight with you well listen I needed your guidance and and your expertise and your Brilliance on this subject because I need you to help me figure a few things out here there’s several polls that definitely show declining support among black voters going from Joe Biden to Donald Trump and listen this is where they are right now why do you believe that that’s the case first of all do you believe it’s true and secondly why would you believe that’s the case well you know the mathine math is they say there’s some manipulation statistically with some of these poll numbers however the bottom line is there is I think disgruntlement among many African-American people about Joe Biden and and there seems to be a coraly uh attraction and to Donald Trump he has an appeal what is that appeal based on maybe you know some young people say he’s got swag they think he’s the kind of person who will go out here and will say what’s on his mind without having it filtered uh through politically correct language that’s one number two uh you you listen to some of the rappers who say that they’re attracted to Donald Trump one of whom says look he he gave out checks during covid uh the like not understanding that those monies were released by an act of Congress not the president but nonetheless they associate that with him and then they think he’s got this kind of swagger he’s got this kind of Charisma because he’s able to you know be the kind of person that many of them ideally and fantasize about being tell you what’s on their mind tell you when to leave and when to come and keep stepping more substantively I think some people are distraught with um you know President Biden over a couple issues the Israel and uh you know Palestinian situation the war in Gaza uh some of them are quite upset about what they perceive to be uh President Biden’s total capitulation um to Israel and not standing enough up enough for Palestinians although one must quickly add hasten to add what do you think will happen with Donald Trump who has been completely in favor of every action that Israel has taken versus the Joe Biden who has tried to uh you know apply restraint or at least get Israel to apply restraint when dealing with uh Palestine right now and then I think some people in regards to their conservative values and beliefs uh they you know there’s a a group of African-American people who are not only uh culturally conservative some of them are growingly politically conservative and they find some of the issues that Donald Trump addresses around say sexuality around gender far more appealing to them than they would perceive uh liberal cultural values to do so I think when you put all that stuff together uh there is regardless of the degree of mathematical distance between the polling and the actual voting of African-American people there is some erosion of support among Democrats and there certainly is an uptick of support for Donald Trump and the Republicans when you allude to mathematical deviation educate the viewers out there educate the listeners out there as to why we should take that seriously because a lot of times so much is relying upon the polls we look at the polls leading up to elections and it gives us an indication it’s not to say it’s always right but it certainly is not always wrong and in this particular instance no one would think that Donald Trump for indictments you know 91 different counts civil lawsuits and hundreds of millions of dollars wouldn’t even be in a position to run for re-election let alone win it but clearly that appears to be the case right now so when you allude to those mathematical differences tell me why folks shouldn’t dismiss that and say wait a minute look at what’s Happening Here look at the momentum we’ve got two eyes we see the momentum shifting to some degree particularly after what you just articulated about this current Administration why shouldn’t folks take that with the seriousness they appear to be taking that with now yeah no it’s a great Point well even mathematically and statistically uh you know they a they ain’t calling like a million uh black people y’all they’re not calling a million people period when they do these posts it might be two or three hundred people um and then the the the statistical difference could be an uptick of six or seven people in either direction will give you a significant change in the polling numbers so if you’re talking you know and and uh our brother Michael harriott who kind of explained this on Twitter talking about six voters made a difference in terms of registering uh a difference in terms of the uptick for Republicans now I I understand that and I appreciate that that’s real but at the same time speaking enough to so many other black people and hearing from them I think it’s undeniable that there is great frustration with the Democrats and there is some appeal uh to Donald Trump and as you’ve already indicated here’s a guy with four cases probably got more he got he he got he got more cases than P paps Bo ribbon as they used to say when I was a kid he’s a guy who’s facing enormous consequence potentially for some misjudgments or criminal activities and yet black people uh certain amounts of black people certain segments of black people certain slices of the voter at feels that he is the appealing candidate they think that Joe Biden ain’t on TV enough he ain’t talking enough he’s not representing his Viewpoint enough even the people who support Joe Biden like PES the rapper right did a an interesting uh video the other day saying where are you at you know we see Donald Trump every day he’s on TV every day he’s being talked about because he’s got yet another court case or some judge uh you know imposing a a fine on him or warning him against speaking in other words he’s sucking up all of the media oxygen in the room and the good things that Joe Biden is doing he’s tweeting about or sending an way that doesn’t get out to the broader audience so not only are we talking about a shift in sensibility and perception among certain African-American voters uh being frustrated with Joe Biden for a number of reasons there is also the fact that the messaging of Donald Trump uh for free if you will but also because of the enormous uh concentration of media attention upon his various flaws is keeping his name in the print now that old saying that used to be hey ain’t no bad publicity we know there is bad publicity but when it comes to presidential sweep stakes and this man is still in the running that calculates that that converts I should say in a way that does have a net positive uh for him so we have to ask African-American voters you got to be a bit more sophisticated about this uh I think many of us are and then some have indicated look black people don’t go come out to rallies they don’t do certain kinds of exhibitionist political um if you will consent or partisanship what they do is just vote in some instances that’s true but at the same time even among the folk that I travel this country talking to and you do as well there is a noticable uptick in support for Donald Trump that we have to Grapple with and take seriously well listen this it’s always good and it’s always beautiful to talk to you my big bro uh espect especially on on intellectual items because obviously you’re one of the highend intellectuals in this nation there make no mistake about that and we we both talked about it and we know that recently you know I got so much heat I know lot my team and other people don’t want me to bring it up you know I don’t give a damn I’m GNA be who I am and one of the things that I’ve religiously stated you know I don’t support Donald Trump he’s not getting my vote but one of the things that I wanted to highlight was that you know what we’re we’re you know you’re in trouble if you’re abide and support if you’re somebody that’s planning on voting for Biden if you’re somebody that wants Biden reelected you cannot just turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to what is transpiring before our very eyes there are black folks in America who have turned to supporting Donald Trump that is just a fact and what I want and and I say it it’s not just because of that that’s a reason to be worried about him getting returning to the White House it’s also the fact that the level of support that Barack Obama going not gone it not just once but twice in terms of the inordinate amount of people emanating from our community willing to go to the polls that wasn’t necessarily the case with Hillary rodm Clinton and I certainly have no reason to believe it’s going to be the case with Joe Biden in 2024 I think that there’s going to be a lack of participation meaning voters showing up to the polls to vote for him you’re going to see some that just don’t show up that’s a concern I have is that concern legitimate in your eyes absolutely and first of all let me let me speak to that um you know you are a man of tremendous integrity and huge authenticity and you call it like you see it and the truth is that there is a there is a troubling phenomenon and Trend there is a problem here in or at least there is a trend that is noticeable that we have to be honest about we can’t stick our heads in the sand and pretend that it’s not the case that’s not an endorsement that’s in an analysis um I happen to be a b Joe Biden supporter but that doesn’t mean I can’t see what’s going on that doesn’t mean I closed my eyes and you’re absolutely right we have to take this extremely seriously because as you’ve uh so intelligently pointed out Barack Obama had a kind of in inborn and inbred Charisma he had a natural Advantage uh he had house money that he was playing with in a way that neither Hillary Clinton nor Joe Biden possess and that is the radical and immediate identification of African and masses of black people with a candidate like uh Barack Obama now arguably Joe Biden has done more specifically for African-American people in terms of the effect of the policies the the you know the rate of unemployment is significantly lower the fact that you got a black vice president in office and a a black woman on the Supreme Court not only symbolically but substance in terms of what he’s done with housing and economic inequality and Al also uh for those people who have received refunds not refunds who have who have been forgiven of their student loans so when we look across the board Joe Biden has arguably done even more and yet the the the messaging behind that is not equally as powerful first because he doesn’t have the inbuilt advantage of of Barack Obama and secondly because sometimes Democrats are loathed to get out there and brag about what they’re doing you got to get out there and brag and tell the people what you’re doing you’ve got to announce it from your bully pull pit as he chrisc crosses This Nation on his campaign stops to talk about what’s going on and to figure out New Media to figure out social media to figure out the old school stuff and make sure that you’re involving the black media in your plans which has often been uh a criticism levied by people within the media so when we put all that stuff together it is necessary at this point to warn folk not after it’s over well I tell you I did see this but I didn’t say anything say it now this is the time for us to make acute analysis and serious scrutiny about what’s happening so with the purpose of you know arming black people with knowledge that will allow them to vote the right way before I move on to my next question I want you to take a look at this post from Fox News analyst Josh crar that’s his name I want you to take a look at this because I want you to see it and I want to put it up on the screen here Mr Trump and Mr Biden are essentially tied among 18 to 29 year olds and his and Hispanic voters even though each group gave Mr Biden more than 60% of their vote in 2020 Mr Trump also wins more than 20% of black voters a tally that would be the highest level of black support for any Republican presidential candidate since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act in 1964 one of the things that I’m going to make it a priority to do on this show at least a couple of times a month if not more as the election approaches Dr Dyson is I want to focus on the black vote I want to focus on the black community what we used to do compared to what we’ve done what we doing what we’re doing what we intend to do and I want you to highlight being a historian that you are the obvious answer to why the Democrats have had a strangle hold on the black vote since 1964 is obviously because of civil legislation that was written in the law in 1964 uh by Lyon president Lyndon B Johnson even though people from both parties brought it to his desk but ever since that time according to reports about Linda B Johnson we do this and we’ll have the Negroes voting for us for the next 200 years and at a time it certainly appeared to be that way and because of that people have held on to it and used it as a form of cynicism to say the Democratic party has taken the black vote for granted so as a result we ain’t going for the okey do anymore we’re going to change this up that’s what some of the black folks that’s what some of the black folks who clearly are Trump supporters are now articulating I want to know in your estimation is there truth to that level of thinking that level of verbiage being thrown out there by those Trump supporters black and otherwise and and and how valid it is in your mind of an argument for them to make against the Democratic party yeah look if you’re suffering in a certain way and African-American people across the board are uh as the brothers in the streets say irregardless of your party whether you’re uh democrat or republican there’s no question about that however if you say under the Democrats you are frustrated and flustered because certain issues are not being taken seriously or you don’t think you’re being heard or you think you’re being taken for granted you know it’s a kind of Bobby wac approach to this whole thing If You Think You’re Lonely Now wait until tonight girl okay so so the thing is is that if you think you’re frustrated and flustered under the Democrats the reason the the Republicans have not garnered more of the African-American vote and I’ll tell you it’s easy it would be easy for them to do so because there is agreement outside of what I believe I happen to be a progressive liberal uh thinker within African-American culture the masses of black people would disagree with me on certain issues in terms of lgbtqa um Qi of transgender and the like and so on I understand that I don’t lie to myself about that however what I say is the masses of black people who Happ to be conservative would find it more easy to vote Republican if the Republicans weren’t so repugnant and repulsive in some of their explicit racist uh manipulations or their implicitly racist policies or outlooks so in other words if they weren’t so focused on on retaliating against the fragile gains of African-American people and could find a way to make concessions in their own ideological tent a lot more black people would be gathered under there just because you’re hurting in your left pinky doesn’t mean that I’m going to go to somebody who’s going to hurt the other three fingers you want to hurt less not more and under Republican ideology and practices look at the jeram mandering going on in state legislators look at the drawing of voting maps that are dissipating the concentrated effect of black voting districts the Supreme Court just ruled a couple days ago saying I think it was in Louisiana or somewhere that the attempt of the state legislatures and the courts to jander against African-American people and to draw maps that would disfavor them is constitutionally invalid so this is the effect of the Republicans they want to gain every Advantage possible legally or not constitutionally or not and I think that all of this discourse among Republicans about steal the vote and look at what happened the the truth is that there’s very little of stealing the vote among among Democrats uh there’s a little voting irregularity what we can point to is the sheer manipulation of ideologues within the rightwing or the Republican Party having said that I I think uh there is frustration among African American people we ain’t going to be on no Plantation well what Plantation you think you’re leaving and going to if you’re on a democratic Plantation if that’s what you conceive it to be which I don’t what Plantation will you now go to you think you’ll be independent you think voting for Donald Trump or the rightwing is something that will serve your interests there is no evidence of this so while there may be frustration look look I would like the Lakers to be in the uh finals every year cuz I’m a Lakers fan since I was a kid but they ain’t in the finals it’s going to be maybe Minnesota and it’s going to be maybe the Boston Celtics who knows the point is your team that you desire to be there ain’t there so the choices you have are who’s there not this Fantasy Land I wish it was this case and I think we have to suggest the African-American people yes we’ve got to sometimes bite the bullet yes we’ve got to sometimes look the bully in the face and say this is true and not true but we don’t gain when we capitulate to interests that have evident undermined our community and not shown much interest otherwise yes it’s hard perhaps for some people uh to vote Democratic and to be in that group but it is far more difficult and far more paralyzing to make the choice to swing in the other direction well one of the things that I think and I’ve articulated that on this show as well that you know people have had an attitude with me about I said I think you you applaud the Democratic party the greatest thing that the Democratic party or one of the greatest things that the Democratic party has done uh for the African-American community in this nation is that they were the ones who gave us access to Capital because when you talk about generational wealth when you talk about you know economic empowerment and what have you they were the ones that played a significant role in facilitating that and I don’t hear the Democrats spewing about that enough that’s number one that’s one of the things that I said and the and the other thing that I pointed out Dr Dyson is this and I took a lot of heat for this but again I don’t give a damn I stand on it when I think about Trump and the law fear that has been engaged against him what I’m saying is I’m not trying to act as if the man is guilty or innocent of anything the courts will determine that and we’ll go with it from there what I’m saying is it’s not stopping him from being away from the camera it’s not stopping him from from playing a role of victim it’s not stopping him from generating campaign dollars and on top of it all it hasn’t stopped him from being the GOP nominee and the man in line to return to the presidency un unless Biden is able to beat him my point is I don’t think that they’ve taken that into enough consideration and you’re looking for the courts to come to the rescue instead of you finding a way to beat him yourself I don’t know how much clearer I can be in stating that help me out here help me out with that message you’re absolutely right and then I was thinking when you were talking you know playing a little uh acronym game here you know he is a g to many of these people right not not the GOP just the G just in terms of Street discour and op you’re down with OP right so so there’s some grudging recognition among certain African-American people like damn I don’t care what you say about Donald Trump I don’t dig him I ain’t trying to vote for him but dog you got to admit he just don’t care he gonna say what he believes he gonna tell you how he thinks it ought to be and he’s going to move forward there is something to many people that’s refreshing about the departure from a political discourse that is so riddled with duplicity with people not telling the truth with people not coming out and saying what they’re what they believe now so let’s let’s be honest about that having said that you’re absolutely right too that that people you know at the end of the day regardless of the charges he’s confronting regardless of the cases he’s got he is out there every day on truth truth social and whatever other platform as in the Press when the judges are not trying to censor him uh in correctly uh in terms of putting a gag order on him when he keeps on in talking and offending now it’s reprehensible in terms of the political substance and the moral substance of what he’s doing but at the same time he gains eyeballs and ear loes people hear what he’s talking about and they are forced to assess the veracity or not the legitimacy or not the authenticity or not and so at the end of the day that is a kind of bullheaded determination to be heard at all costs that is attractive to certain voters who say I’m tired of the BSI get coming out of these politicians mouths they’re lying left and right right and left but here’s a guy who’s going to tell it like it is I happen to believe that that is destructive for the country I happen to believe that he has shredded any ounce of consideration for the other side uh and any uh ounce of political convention that suggests we have decorum and civility in a way however in these trench battles uh it is it is very vicious out here and Donald Trump is throwing mud in the face sand in the face uh using every Advantage he has name calling and the like and we’ll see what happens when this upcoming debate in June uh where Donald Trump faces off squarely against uh President Biden and and see what the consequences will be but we cannot under estimate the various forces of appeal out here that mitigate uh that militate against uh the interests of African-American people that they may be voting for and we can’t pretend that just because we think it’s silly or crazy or dumb or unintelligent or uh counterproductive or destructive to our interest that it’s not happening we have to open our eyes and then try to strategize as a result of that when we talk about polls you have some people out there who talk about as especially somebody like my buddy Roland Martin uh who would say you know what there are black poles there are white poles and they are black poles do you draw a distinction with that uh do you agree with him on that that these polls could you alluded to its potential inaccuracies and they haven’t talked to every black person and there indeed is a difference between white poles and black poles that actually exist out there where there’s a palp there’s palpable evidence to show that dichotomy that exists do you agree with Martin on that oh absolutely I agree with nearly everything Roland Martin says but it is I agree it with Stephen A Smith I mean you know smart black people smart people period but smart black people I I I I take them seriously so you and he certainly I take seriously but yes I mean and look you know Martin Luther King Jr used to joke about this it was common in the black community you know when when when the census came census taker came the reason we didn’t get an accurate count of black people Dr King said because they thought it was the bill collector so because they thought it was the bill collector they ain’t answered the door and we don’t get our senses counted that’s still a problem in many instances but the point is even if half the poll is right we in trouble even if you cut down 50% of it we in trouble and we should take it as a warning sign a volley uh if you will across the bow politically speaking that we got to do something we got to get on our p’s and q’s I know Roland I know you and I know the most uh intelligent observers of our community have to you know are often you know sounding the alarm I don’t care what them po are saying even if we say half of it is right half of it is wrong or it’s off by so many percentage points and it therefore doesn’t truly represent ain’t no problem ain’t no harm and overdoing it at halftime was it uh last night Anthony Edwards was saying to his teammates do not let your foot off the gas so they they end up winning by what 45 points so the point is is that we we we cannot let our foot off the gas we have to assume we have a formidable opponent because we do we have to assume that there is a bleeding off a leakage of support formerly accumulated within African-American culture and there is and so therefore despite the fact that those polls I think are off and that there’s a differential accorded uh to any objective person dealing with evidence and empirical verification of a fact that that there’s a difference between white Poes and black Poes that’s true but we got to act like we are in trouble and the house is on fire and what is we gonna do that’s where we are and we have to be motivated to address that issue how disappointed I’m going to use the word disappointment if not flat out fearful even though I would almost never Associated that associate that last word with you how fearful are you about the Democratic party not having a bullpen not having anybody lying lined up knowing this man has been in this picture on this scene this political scene for at least eight years in counting and we find ourselves relying on an assumed to be 82y old encumbrance to give us four more years what does that say to you about the party that you pride yourself in being a part of in this day yes sir well first of all I’m praying for his health that’s number one as a Baptist preacher Jesus please help me out so that’s number one but number two more seriously uh you’re right we do have to develop a bench we have to generate and and and here’s the thing here’s what I know about history though um is that there’s always a ram in the bush somewhere that there’s always somebody ready to step up that we don’t even know their name we didn’t know Anthony Edwards was gonna be the Beast he was drawing these comparisons to Michael Jordan two years ago heck not even a year ago we saw him coming we knew he was great but we didn’t know is there a Corel in the political world maybe not but there are but then maybe so there are very articulate insightful conscientious political figures some would say a Hing Jeffrey some would say a Jasmine Crockett some would say you know um uh younger people um you know out of Congress or Jamal Bowman and the like who are seriously committed to making a difference they are white and black and Latino politicians who are quite comfortable in trying to forge connections with people across the aisle but then keeping their eyes on the prize so that there are people who will certainly emerge because necessity is the mother of invention however um it is true that we must be deeply and profoundly committed and invested in the process of De of developing a visibly ready bench of figures to step up into not only the spotlight more importantly into the onto the stage to do the work that is necessary to in to encourage uh political progress for African-Americans and Latinos and poor white folk and asian brothers and sisters and so on who are able to articulate the ideals of the American democracy in ways that are appealing and refreshing willing to fight for the quote the small guy and woman willing to stand up for those who are poor and who are middle class and do so and there are many politicians who are able to do that so we can’t give into cynicism there was um a quote from a black uh preacher and Professor who was the mentor of Martin Luther King Jr Howard Thurman and Howard Thurman said never reduce your dreams to the event you are confronting right now this event will not exhaust the infinite possibilities of your life or your political Destiny so even though it looks dreary now we can’t reduce our dreams to the dreariness we’ve got to elevate ourselves and remember this if you think it’s bad now what was it like when Martin Luther King J was alive or Ralph Abernathy or Ella Baker or Joanne Robinson or Rosa Parks these people had less and did more so what we can’t forget is that we possessed within us the ability and the resource to pull a rabbit out of the hat to insist that there will be a ram in the bush and to make certain not by just praying and wishing and hoping but by working as hard as we can we can help shape the very Destiny about which we have fear or about which we have concern we are the answers we are looking for and we’ve got to do the work necessary to change the future my very last question to you Dr Dyson the wonderful Dr Michael Eric Dyson right here with George truly Stephen A Smith under Stephen A Smith on YouTube as we sit here and we talk about race and we talk about the black vote particularly as this presidential election continues to unfold with Donald Trump and President Biden both agreeing to a debate at least this June next month and of course in September although Trump said he wants it June July August and September uh but that’s a different subject for another day but as we sit here and talk about race my last question to you would be uh race relations of a different ilk and that is alluding to a beautiful article that you wrote in the Philadelphia citizen that I have right in front of me if you’re looking for it go to the philadel the Philadelphia citizen.org to find this article entitled why Kendrick versus Drake as in Kendrick Lamar versus The One and Only Drake is a proxy war the rap battle everyone is talking about is really about race identity black/ Jewish relations in this American moment a citizen exclusive from a bestselling author an elite public intellectual that man would be the one I’m talking to right now Dr Michael Eric Dyson What in excited you to write this article that was published May 15th and you can catch it now um and what message did you want to get out there to and disseminate to the masses see I’m glad I’m talking to uh the great Stephen A Smith because in other fora you know I’ve had to hold my powder and be more balanced and so on I’m I’m pissed that Drake gets dismissed off the scene when he’ been Drake for 15 years and you act like you didn’t know that now he’s not really black oh he was black when he he’s recorded more songs with Jay-Z than most of these rappers last time I checked Jay-Z is real he ain’t fake uh challenging his racial identity saying he’s a culture vulture when he’s an a when he’s a black man he’s from Canada he ain’t real indris Ela is from the UK people still love him on the wire so why is it that being outside of our geography outside of our nationality raises suspicions about Drake now you can judge the you can debate the uh war between Kendrick and Drake in terms of you know the quintuple um you know anandra that uh Kendrick Lamar unleashes Kendrick Lamar is a brilliant rapper and a formidable foe but so is Drake and what he’s done to expand the Horizon of Hip Hop is underestimated even artistically I’m saying people well he goes into one style and he does that and he goes over to UK drill and he does that he goes over to bounce music he does that he does to the Caribbean he does this why are you looking at a positive as a negative I Seno deile just passed they had a special Seno demo um celebration for Jay-Z in Senco Deo because Jay-Z has been attracted to Latino culture speaking Spanish all through his music and they had an entire program celebrating Jay-Z was Jay-Z a culture don’t forget OG Wan I mean don’t forget OG Juan now his brother his right hand now I mean me please come on now we all know one and Desiree Perez his wife that’s right that is OJ Juan OJ Juan and the woman who runs um his you know Rock Nation so the point is that is that that is Jay-Z a culture vulture no we have to stop this narrow punishing pernicious limited Viewpoint about Blackness yes have a debate about who’s the greatest have a debate about rhetorical skills but but but let me tell you what as Lupe Fiasco no slouch as a rhetorician and one of the greatest lyricists ever said that he would put Drake slightly above Kendrick Lamar that’s a minority minority position but it’s a very powerful one he’s saying that Drake got bars so we miss Drake because of this other Madness the distorting impact uh the metrics that we evoke his being Jewish and white and not so-called black so was Barack Obama a a mixed race person and my dear brother I heard um you know uh that he’s a friend of both of ours when we go in The Breakfast Club all the time Charlamagne the god called he said this half negro and I want to say Charlamagne there’s a lot of half Negroes out here who have done tremendous work for African-American culture so that the the name calling the kind of AD homonym remarks as opposed to a full-on Embrace of the rhetorical diversity and Splendor that is Drake to me that would be a fairer fight then we could make an estimation of what’s going on and then that piece of course I also talk about this being a proxy war for other issues that are out there and we can talk about those another time but dealing with the war in Gaza dealing with Dei dealing with black Excellence dealing with rhetorical power dealing with education dealing with the the colorism we see in our own communities because there’s no question that light bright Almost White was a thing is a thing and we have to be pay attention to that at the same time we know that that Clarence Thomas is a darkskinned black man we know that uh Candace Owens is a brown-skinned black woman and they are legitimately black I don’t contest their Blackness it’s the moral content of their identities and their public policies that I would have a difference with so I’m arguing got uh in this sense for us to understand the power and the prolific character of a genius like Aubrey GRE Drake Graham we’ll get more into that subject in the future because we got to go right now you know that is that’s a position anytime black folks got a problem with with other black folks somebody sold out in somebody’s eyes that’s the ultimate argument and I think that Kendrick Lamar heard himself with that one point that you just articulated so brilliantly I got to get on out of here but I appreciate your time your Brilliance Your Excellence your Insight your historical facts that you threw out there as well appreciate you love you and thank you for taking so much time out of your busy schedule and by the way uh I know that we going to catch you soon CU you’re doing an interview with my man Bill M for Club random I know that’s going to be off the chain as well with his crazy self love you love you bro I appreciate you Dr much thank you so much for this opportunity it easy ladies and gentlemen that’s it for today’s show I want to thank again one and only Dr Michael Eric Dyson for coming on the show blessing us with his presence his knowledge and his historical perspectives no question it is needed in this day and age I just felt compelled to tackle that subject because once again I’m reiterating a point that I was making all along I’m not one of them but there are black folks out there that are veering away and are looking to support not Joe Biden but Donald Trump it cannot be ignored it should not be ignored networks are not ignoring it the people are not ignoring it I’ll be damned if I’m going to I’m not going to do that but I appreciate Dr Michael Eric Dyson’s voice I can’t wait to get my man Roland Martin back on here and by the way conservatives black conservatives of a different opinion whose voice resonates who have people who want to listen to and hear what they have to say you’re welcomed on the show too I’m not leaving anybody out I take them all liberals and conservatives black whites Latinos it doesn’t matter to me as long as the conversation is respectful substantive and fair and edifying those are my requirements I hope you can respect that got to get on out of here for to day got a Knicks Pacers game six uh Eastern Conference semi-final series to cover so I got to get on out of here I hope y’all all have a wonderful wonderful weekend and I will see you on Monday until then peace and love everybody I’m out