Fly Racing Moto:60 Show – Salt Lake City SX 2024 with Jason Thomas & Zach Osborne

Looking ahead to Salt Lake City SX 2024

e e e e 24 super Cara series man it just seems like uh we were at Anaheim not that long ago right and uh round 17 this weekend in Salt Lake City every Championship up for grabs Jets got 20 I think on uh on Coupe and V’s got 15 and kitchen and Hampshire are tied so lots to get into when it comes to Salt Lake City Zack Osborne Jason Thomas will join us thank you to the folks at fly racing man love these guys and when you look at uh Max an RJ Hampshire Dean Wilson uh so on and so forth down the list flyracing.com supports the Riders supports the teams they got ambassadors like Bradshaw and shorty and Brighton I mean come on flyracing.com check it out that’s your local dealer and the formula helmet’s amazing tell you what uh check out that formula s helmet and it’s a helmet with the brain it’s got the it’s got the Reon technology in it it’s got the cone head EPS it can literally save your life at the addition of an app so thank you to the folks at flyracing.com Max’s Tires get 100% decal 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entered I should say 100 with the props 131 right yes that’s correct with the props 131 to privateers man that’s fantastic so of course I emailed all the privateers immediately and said uh you’re not getting paid until I get your Social number and your address right because I have to write them I have to 1099 them and uh out of 22 Riders this was done on Monday it’s Thursday of the 22 Riders how many do you think have already got back to me four three just three I wish I could say I were surprised but I’m not I’m trying to give you money yeah if they don’t give you that information do you just get to keep the money then I take it yeah Mark Mark takes it Mark T okay good what’s up tits how are you hello glad to be here great work coming in today buddy yeah man thank you that’s what I’m talking about last show of the of the Supercross season yeah you guys are off next week yeah we are all right sweet tastes probably on vacation when’s his next vacation oh was um Memorial Day Memorial Day Newport find me right got it uh all right everybody uh when you’re talking Salt Lake City you’re talking a rider who uh took his one and only 450 Supercross win there to go along with his other championships it’s our regular uh analyst Zach Osborne hi zacho how’s it going so when you won Salt Lake Jason’s seat fell off did you know the seat has fallen off or were you like I’m catching him no I knew his seat had fallen off but before he passed me my my uh right side or my yeah my right side number plate had fallen off so my boot was okay getting singed and it was dang near impossible to ride my bike as well okay um funny story though um one of our husky employees Scott bertness had passed away uh that night before okay uh in in an off-road um well actually an on-road motorcycle riding accident and he had worked for brownie a little bit um during the season doing some the vet race stuff and all that Y and he had a seat fall off and and a right side number plate fallof um and wow yeah really the boys gave him a ton of crap about it it was kind of like the shop joke and then yeah the the day we went one two three he passed away and we lost a seat a seat and a uh right side number plate I never heard that story yeah that’s crazy yeah wow crazy so how did you know Anderson’s seat was off did I saw it laying in the track oh you saw it on the track okay yeah I’m like well that’s either Dean’s or Jason so nice well listen uh who cares how it happened you got it you got the win you know yeah yeah I mean I I really wanted to win I had a huge crash in practice that day um I think I even missed the last session um because I took a bar to the stomach and then you know that whole trip was super successful for me like that was some of the best racing I ever did in my whole life and um we had a great trip as a family as a team like it was just really really fun no that’s cool um yeah to capped off with that win was super sick 702 586 7857 uh coming up the intensity level of the Riders out of the Championships generally are a little lower at the final round aren’t they zacho for everybody definely Y and also I think that the Riders you know if it’s two or three that are in the championship especially the one who’s leading um tends to take very little risk and rightfully so so I think it opens the door for some other people um I don’t know if jet is ever taking risk though so that could be just another one of those races for him yeah yeah we we’ve seen a lot of uh weirdo winners at the final rounds you know like myself like yourself yeah um also the dirt and the track don’t lend itself to balls out riding either at Salt Lake you know they like no not really Vegas didn’t either um for a while but I feel like the last few years that we were there um obviously we had that one um crazy mutter deal in yeah um but there there were some good Vegas races there at the end 13 14 15 16 17 um where even 19 was really good where the track was was good enough to race on you know yeah uh Zach Osborne here on the Fly RAC in Moto 60 show 702 586 7857 giving away a Firepower stand and 100% goggles as well uh to some two lucky callers uh zacho um what did you make what you you you you pequ my interest earlier because you said you know generally the riders that aren’t in title contention you know kind of leave the title guys alone a little bit right they kind of let them settle their their beefs a little bit what did you make of thrasher hitting Hamshire that hard early in the last week’s main uh that was really weird um I mean had you know had um star had a guy in the in the battle or Dasher himself been in the battle like I would have understood it but like it was I wouldn’t say it was a full dive bomb but he didn’t have much of a chance of passing him and not hitting him you know no no it was pretty gnarly yeah I was like yeah kind of like what the heck’s going on here um because it was set up to be a perfect you know scenario where those guys go to battle um but yeah that was that was a really crazy Oddball move for me uh I agree and RJ was not happy about it after the race that’s for sure it looked like it kind of got him in like the the bar got him in the uh arm or ribs or something I mean it probably hurt they were you know they were ripping big news today Eli Tomac hurt his thumb in practice in Denver and uh 6 to 8 weeks surgery so he’s going to miss this round obviously and then the beginning of the outdoors and uh yeah sucks for everybody uh zacho yeah it does I mean obviously with him uh announcing last week that he was going to do or this week I guess that he was going to do the whole series um and then two or three days later uh it kind of gets the the air taken out of it that sucks I mean um I think he’s the the main guy who could challenge that Outdoors um but yeah I guess we’ll have to wait and see um it’s never ideal to come back midseason like that you know so if he if he is eight weeks out he’s GNA Miss six or seven rounds five rounds something like that um by the time he gets you know riding and prepped up and all that stuff again so it’s yeah it sucks for everyone yeah definitely a blow to the series um I would challenge you a little bit on your comment uh but he’s the only guy who could maybe give Jed a run uh I don’t know if anybody can nothing I’ve seen in Supercross okay you know but but either way sure yeah um we might be in for a long another long summer uh Hunter Lawrence LED laps you know he’s already been on the poll he’s won a heat race he led laps this weekend um yeah kind of kind of slowly getting better that’s what you want to see if you’re Honda and if you’re uh Darren Lawrence and and Hunter himself that’s what you want to see just like it’s been fine uh but Improvement is good yeah definitely um I think he’s come around um this is more what I expected of him from the beginning uh I didn’t really expect him to win races but I expected him to be like solid top five guy Podium threat which he has been recently um but like I said last week I think that the hit at A1 yeah the way that it started um getting hurt again like it just all kind of took a lot longer than what we all thought or you know especially what he would have wanted um but that’s you know I never questioned whether or not he was capable of those type of types of rid or um winning races or leading laps or heat races or whatever that that was never um really a question for me um I just thought it would have happened sooner but with the factors it is what it is we had Brighton and ouen on Monday and we were talking about the 250 West series of course that’s they’re tied going into this weekend and we were talking about who’s going to do what and I mean my comeback to that is just tell me who starts in front of the other um I don’t know man yes and no okay um I think that this situation um having been in this situation not tied but down one point going into the last race um a lot of weirdo stuff happens there’s a lot of pressure um it’s it’s going to be no matter what I think we’re in for a treat um but yeah I wouldn’t I wouldn’t put it down to the start for this okay particular scenario so who do you lik in this weekend obviously you you know you go way back with RJ um I have to go RJ I think he’s been in the class a long time deserves it paid his dues all the things but also you know Levi has written great all year he’s been super strong I think last weekend um his boot being messed up may have cost him getting to Joe um but yeah I think I don’t know man it’s so hard to call at but you can’t you can’t you’re you’re like other guys like RJ deserves it he’s been in the class for so long that doesn’t mean he’s that’s not a reason why he’s not gonna win the the championship because he’s been in the class so long and he deserves it I mean I agree with that but like I just push back a little bit and tell me tell me why RJ is gonna do it not just because he deserves it that’s not a why yeah I I I think RJ is willing to do whatever it takes no matter what that is okay um and I think he’s go or blow I to be perfectly honest with you um I think he’s gonna just go all out and I think that um he’s probably a little bit more suited to this pressure than than kitchen just because he’s been around longer and I think that that’s why he’s gonna win okay now that see I like that that’s that’s that’s much better Z okay sorry sorry I’ll go all out analyst on everything well I mean just he deserves it isn’t isn’t a reason um Steve why is Van Halen so far down in last night’s poll are they are they trailing yeah well actually they’re they’re beating one band that they shouldn’t be which is Death Leopard but they’re third you didn’t even specify which which era of Van Halen it’s yeah they’re all trash wow wow okay all right with that let’s get to some questions shall we uh 702 586 7857 uh Zack Osborne is on the line Alex is on one what’s up Alex hey guys thanks for taking my call yeah um two very groundbreaking things happened today big big news drops Eli Tomac you know getting surgery the Leafs firing their coach you know which one is more of a devastating heartbreak to the fan base ah toac I think because like yeah it’s just it would have been great to see him outdoors I mean the Leaf’s coach he seems like a good guy he’s a good coach but it’s been it’s been six years of one pass winning one round like you got to go like again I think he’s a good you just got to go and marner’s got to go Shanahan should go but he’s not uh they need a goalie it’s a joke it’s a joke Alex but but no Eli I think takes it I mean Zach you’re up on the Maple Leafs coaching change I’m sure yeah yeah uh terrible terrible play all season um and good change okay thank you yeah all right Alex thanks buddy thank you very much have a good one guys thank you appreciate it uh okay uh stetson’s on three what’s up Stetson hey how’s it going good I was wanting to yeah no problem I wanted to get y’all’s take on Eli going out for surgery yet again this year and JT had been mentioning and famously arguing with you about Eli needing some time to get back and then on Monday y’all talked a little bit more about that with the older guys is this yet again another thing that’s going to kind of set him back and make him not be able to hit that 99.9% speed as often or if maybe if not at all you know what I mean how long’s AO for Eli to get back to being Eli um just from this injury because I feel like he was pretty close to back um from the from the Achilles yeah this injury yeah um I don’t think very long I mean eight weeks isn’t that long but regardless like I said when you start a season midseason that’s what what the hardest part is because those guys just you gain so much from a race each race and each weekend you take so much Fitness and so much bike expertise and everything and I think that’s that’s the hold up and also thumb is in my opinion one of if not the worst injury that you can have and be a motocross racer because it is the most niggling nagging thing you’ll ever deal with I did my UCL really really bad in 2014 and it still hurts me today it has hurt me every time I’ve rid since 2014 um but but I think in terms of getting back to you know his normal self I I don’t think it’s it’s far-fetched at all I mean it’s not a big deal if he wants to come back he’s going to come back and um I think he never comes back before or in a rush or anything like that so I think if he comes back and he says he’s going racing he’ll be 100% all right Stetson uh good question do you want to pair 100% goggles or a Firepower stand a stand would be awesome I also have a followup for zacho on that point all right so zacho do you think that it will affect his ability to get roosted can you state that on Twitter for no no osor I better leave that one alone not allowed uh thanks Stetson thanks for the call appreciate it thank you appreciate it guys oh we had a lot of fun with that uh Justin’s on we’re still having fun right marks yep we are that’s right well no you guys are IR raising buddies now you guys have made up I think I don’t know if Mark actually thought I had beef over his little tractor meme he doesn’t know me very well um all right Justin what’s up what’s your question for zacho hey thanks uh huge zacho fan uh I just wanted to ask is there any truth to the rumor I just started that zacho is filling in for AC this summer what do you think um I actually tried there’s no truth to that uh to this point but thank you but he did call around yes I did call I did call all right thanks Justin do have a followup question okay sorry and uh hey zacho how did you and saachi squash the beef and start working together somebody asked me that the other day and I don’t actually know um we kind of met over Twitter and then we IRAs together and then it just kind of blossomed from there so evidently iRacing is the place where you squash all your beef yeah there we go iRacing who knew uh thank thanks J thank you appreciate it thanks uh Gage is on four what’s up Gage how are you what’s your question hey hey what’s going on guys um gonna talk about the TX situation that that’s actually everybody in the series but um want to switch gears I saw on social media looks like Kenny’s been wearing wearing a knee brace I thought it was just an ankle injury do you know if there’s further damage that we don’t know about I thought he said he strained a ligament in his knee in his MCL or something I thought he said yeah I don’t know I’ve noticed that too um I I saw him flying today or something at the airport with uh knee brace on and it’s been wearing it a lot so I don’t know yeah bit concerning I guess um hold on I’m going to look at see cuz think he text me about it we were talking afterwards and I thought you don’t have his number I don’t have his number um hold on Steve we’re trying have a show here dude yeah yeah I’ve got I’ve got another question while you looked that up uh tib fib okay no yeah it doesn’t say foot toe TI FIB tib Plateau foot toe he doesn’t actually mention anything thing to me but I thought he said something all right okay all right and then I guess on to the world Supercross um sounds like that’s to go been kind of a lot of people in and out what have you have yall heard on that and which teams are going to be participating no haven’t heard yeah they they uh they want they want to renegotiate with the teams I heard there’s some push back for some teams teams don’t want to do the new deals um I I mean look we saw that announcement today the fim gave the Glo Supercross Global guys 10 years but that the big deal that that doesn’t mean anything uh I don’t know yeah honestly um Gage they’re going to have problems I think getting enough teams I really do yeah agreed yep so thanks man thank you all right thanks all right Jay’s on one Jay what’s your question for Zach Osborne hey Zach how you doing Steve what’s going on what’s up much hey I got a question for you guys so I’m just starting to get back into riding uh race kind of as a kidow went up it took like 10 plus years off and I rolled the other day my brother but he has a yz5 um but I wanted to know is there anything that you guys can suggest maybe handlebars or with grips for arm pump no if you if you find that out tell us so you can make a million dollars right zacho pretty much um for me like my my mini bars made a huge difference for me uh as far as arm pump goes but really that’s it pro Pro makes a micro bar uh with ends are smaller and Zack was one of the guys to to work on that honestly I feel like a handlebar without a crossbar helps arm pump handlebar without a crossbar yep I feel like that helps arm pump but that’s just me um uh yeah I love crossbar that’s the thing too yeah I’m I’m the opposite I can’t I really struggle to ride without a crossbar so yeah okay yeah you can uh you can take you can take the crossbar and then just cut it with a hacksaw so now you have the flex and then you have okay so then you have the look of a crossbar no I’m being serious yeah I’m being serious okay all right all right thanks man all right well thank you guys apprciate appreciate it thank you yeah zacho the cure for arm pump we if anybody figures that out we’ll be a millionaire yeah let me know let me let me in on that yeah exactly uh Nathan that Hydro power guy on Instagram claims his stuff fixes arm pump yeah then there was the arm pump doctor guy with the with the little alden’s buddy yep I used that thing a lot and did it work I felt like it worked yeah all right it waso or not I don’t know right Nathan what’s up man hey Steve thanks for taking my call um I’ve been listening to the viods all season I appreciate you guys um so I wanted to ask a question real quick about jet we’ve obviously talked about him a lot I’m watching it and thinking like from a long-term perspective a this season’s been super fun to watch it’s his his rookie season and it’s been fun to watch Cooper get in there and and tomak and some of these other guys but assuming he wins this weekend and get the championship under his belt it’s kind of hard to Envision anybody else beating this kid for maybe the I mean for as long as he wants to race honestly because of his riding style and I’m curious to know do you think in order to beat him that some of these other guys maybe seon and uh whoever even Degan longterm are they gonna have to emulate the way that he rides to beat him just because it’s so efficient it almost looks like he’s safe when he’s riding as fast as he is and you watch somebody like Degan who’s gonna be like the up and cover excuse me down the road and I’m like man I don’t know if you can like beat Jet by just being aggressive so that’s my first question I I like the question can you I like the question but for me like zacho I don’t think you can try to ride like jet if you’re not jet you have to ride what works for you there’s more than one way to skin a cat uh but what do you think zacho yeah I mean to to change something like that um that’s that let’s say drastic in you know a ra into a race situation where you ride you’ve ridden this one way your whole life and then your new automatic default riding style is this way I mean that’s like a two or threeyear progression in my opinion you’re not going to do that in an offseason or you know in two offseasons realistically like I I just don’t think that there’s time or place for completely revamping or restructuring your whole style I mean the the one thing is is you’ve come this far and you’ve done all these things and you’re this good because of the way you ride like right so like making small adjustments and improving is one thing but like recrea the smoothness and the standing and all the things that jet does I don’t know that that’s possible at this juncture in your career or level you’re at or any of those things I just don’t think that that all adds up to me sure making small changes and trying to kind of emulate that down the road maybe but like completely redoing your whole riding style and yeah writing program to to just to emulate that I just don’t think that’s realistic but one thing I do think you’re right it’s it’s going to be uh Jet’s here and he’s young and yep we’re everyone else is in trouble zacho for a while yeah I agree um it it’s could be boring for a while yeah uh all right man and I think people people are tacking a lot of blame on the track this year but I mean the level of the guys is so high and the level that he had he is that is you know some percent better it’s like one or 2% better which at the top level is insane um and I just think that man he that good thanks Nathan yeah thank you for the call sure uh guys just throw one one more thing I was just going to say it’s almost kind of shocking how fast he goes when he looks so neutral in so many ways like I used to ride up in Oklahoma quite a bit so I’d see guys like Tre Canard and even Austin forner and those guys just look like they were hauling ass and they were but it looked a little bit like more on the edge and yeah um is there anything you see jet do that like the average Rider could kind of out of the gate kind of go out and start trying to implement yeah I mean to for me I I don’t understand it you know like when you watch a guy like James Stewart who was previously the the guy who was this much better than everyone you could see like dude he’s so fast right here or he’s doing this so much better but when I watch jet I’m like what’s happening like how is he going that much faster looking like this you know um I I definitely think that he has great form great technique but how to emulate that I don’t quite understand or know I mean he he looks easy he looks slow he never looks um in in a rush he never gets super excited sure he’s made some some small mistakes this year but it never looks like he’s just killing it like setting the track on fire like a a stew Toronto 2014 kind of thing you know it it’s never like that with him and I I don’t know I I can’t quite comprehend it to be honest it’s really crazy when he when he mucks up a section and needs to make time up on a guy and he just does it the next turn he just literally puts his head down and comes out of the turn all over the guy that he just lost a second to or half a second yeah he can ruin a section and then two turns later it’s like what happened like where did that time go you know whereas a lot of times at the front like that if you ruin a section your race is over it’s it’s not even a bad lap for him it’s just like oh well there there goes that you know yep uh thanks Nathan thanks for the call thank you sir appreciate it thank you uh we got some uh YouTube questions for you zacho what’s your uh what’s your favorite amateur racing memory um would probably be my first trip over to the junior World Championship um in Italy I got third um um with RV and porcel in front of me um and just the whole vibe of being that was my first time being on Team USA I dreamed of being on Team USA uh from the time I saw that race in mini Warriors um with Davey and Stu and naggle and all those guys and um man that was that was a peak uh Peak moment for me um something I still have tons of pictures and memories and a trophy from and um yeah that was that was a great trip all right we got Aaron on one what’s up Aaron Aaron you there up Y what up okay sorry about that hey um man listen I uh I’m a former blue crew member and uh I recently was converted to gas gas okay dude they’re running a promotion you buy a brand new 450 you get a free ebike really and I got the ebike dude I got my ebike yesterday this is the best [ __ ] bike I’ve ever ridden in my life and okay I know nothing about ebikes nothing about mountain bikes but dude such a cool deal and the gas gas bike has a Yamaha motor in it which is yeah so gas gas has a newer bike than the one that you got and um it looks badass still blue crew even if you’re riding something else yeah good point you still yeah um no that’s awesome man uh I did Zack did you know about this buy a for yeah I did actually cuz um practice mechanic was trying to finagle one out of one of our local dealers the other day that I was on the phone with and uh so I was like yeah depending on what bike you buy is a different level of ebike but yeah all of them basically yeah um you get a you buy buy a 450 you get a ebike wow that’s pretty cool um neat to hear man I’m glad you’re liking it so yeah it’s uh you know there I didn’t I’ve never ridden the gas gas one but I’m going to ride that new one which has Shram motor and Shram auto shift zacho have you seen this yeah um I’m G to ride it next week D yeah so um thanks for the call Aaron enjoy it man thank you all right when you guys get a l then you’ll know really bike but here we go here we go you sound like JB that was here uh just saying man faith is on four Faith what’s going on what’s your question I’m wondering if PR beat St Outdoors next year what do you I know it’s like like a bit too much to ask but kind of makes sense because what do you so JT yeah zacho uh JT is on this he thinks prto can give uh anyone a run his first year here I’m not quite as convinced but where you at on this zacho um I’m I’m probably like 75% um I think he’s an instant Contender Outdoors um whether he beats jet or not we’ll see but Podium guy and all that all day yeah yeah I’m I’m I’m there with that all right there you go Faith there’s the question answered thank you by someone that would know Zach Osborne um okay we got one more call but that mud performance last weekend was terrible yeah it was wasn’t very good and now gu’s got the red plate it’s so funny because it seems like PR’s won every single damn Moto and he screws up once and and geyser’s got the red plate right yeah that and that’s what I thought too like I thought I I guess in my mind I had him like 60 points ahead yeah me too because he’s won all the heat races or most the heat races and you know most of the motos but then yeah one one day and it’s gone yep yep uh J on three jar you asking about the live show this weekend yeah I was just wondering what happened to it I know you said you had a spot that was yeah sorry man we we couldn’t make it happen honestly we couldn’t have make it happen JT and weij had some commitments and uh um it was out in Park City and people were telling me that people wouldn’t go and then like I said I couldn’t get co-host for it they they got booked up with Feld stuff so yeah man no no no live show gotcha all right thanks ahead appreciate it thank you uh fly RAC and Moto 60 show thanks to the folks at seat concept saving asses since 2009 they have uh stylish replacement covers they got a wide variety of seat options they got complete seats got various height and width profiles as well and each seat incorporates a proprietary foam formulation seat concepts.com px24 is a code to save zbag code.com ZZ bag code.com official bag of the Triumph guys uh Ford performance Trevor pestr and more whether you need a bag for work pleasure hauling the kids in their gear around they’ve got you cover with backpacks travel roller bags gear bags and more uh pulp 24 it’s Z’s bag ZZ bag code.com uh like these uh these guys at Zs they make really good bags and uh so thanks to the folks at Zs for coming on Zach Osborne here zacho before we let you go uh need your winners man yeah need need the winners for actually I need your winners for Salt Lake Race and then I need three Champions as well okay uh Champions going to be jet RJ and Tom MH and then um race winnner is going to be um um Hunter and shimoda what okay that’s good Before I Let You Go though this is not even a joke with Joe anymore like we obviously talked about it this is really his Mo and I don’t know how he stops it but like this is what he does and he keeps doing it yeah it’s not it’s not ideal um I was super high on shimoda um just seeing the progression of that bike with Hunter and Jet over the last couple years and him making that move and being there with his friends and all that stuff seemed like just a magic moment to me and it’s been a huge let down to this point like this last weekend that’s dude when he’s on he’s he’s like he’s nearly jet good or jet easy I would say you know he’s so do break doesn’t clch like he just like rolls the throttle um and that was that was that last weekend um but yeah I don’t know what happened at the beginning of the season um you can chalk some of it up to the bike change and like I’ve said so many times people underestimate how long it takes to get to a winning level on a new bike even if it’s steel frame aluminum frame whatever um but yeah he needs to sort out the beginning of his of his seasons and um I mean we know what he’s capable of um winning races pretty handedly in my opinion um but yeah I I don’t know what happened at the beginning of the Season yeah yeah can’t I mean at some point you gotta stop it you got to figure it out right yeah um all right zacho take next Thursday off okay he I will do and then uh we’ll come in Thursday before Paula with some hot more hot more hot questions so yeah sounds good man all right buddy thank you man thanks all right that’s a Zack Osborne uh fly RAC in Moto 60 show thanks to the folks at decal Works pulp 24 is the code to save at decal mx.com official Graphics of the Red Bull KTM team husk ofor Offroad and yeah man they do great work they’ll send you the proof you can move your logos around you can put ad logos you can put a fly racing logo on there you can put a pulpmx logo on there whatever you want uh live from the golf tournament in Salt Lake City right now it’s Jason Thomas what’s up JT not too much I’m uh overlooking the golf course where uh yeah a lot of the industry is out there pretending that they know how to play golf instead of race motorcycles do you know how to golf I don’t even know absolutely not okay absolutely not no way okay no um I like I like going to the driving range but or like top golf but I yeah yeah I’m not very good but you can go to Top Golf and make contact with the ball and all of that like oh sure yeah yeah I just it like it’s something like this the golf tournament I’m just gonna let the team down and I’m gonna be frustrated and not have a good time I don’t like being bad at things Y and I know I’m bad at golf so yeah uh we’re talking to zacho about Salt Lake and uh uh yeah I mean this thing with Joe it’s real um and he you know he doesn’t say much Joe’s English is better I don’t know if he totally understands the questions always and I asked him about it and he just said he’s riding really well when I asked him why this happens and didn’t really get to the bottom of it you know but it’s a thing it’s really a thing I think he I think he definitely understands I think there’s a and and I’m speculating here which is always dangerous but I think he is scared of saying the wrong thing uh like through translation or coming out wrong and facing the backlash of that so he just stays in a really really tight range of the things that he says but I do think he understands what’s being asked I think he’s just very scared of trying to answer a certain way and it coming out a different way and then once it’s out you can’t get it back you know that’s the tough part about what I mean he he’s been firsthand witnessed to Jet saying things that he probably wish he had back so I think there’s a little bit of that yeah it’s definitely a thing like he needs to start Motocross strong and you know to to to be a guy yeah it’s it’s hard I mean everybody knows this this scenario now and I’ve tried to ask him about it on the podium and and I’m sure other people you know it’s not like it’s anything that is revolutionary as far as a thought um I just don’t know what is going to flip that switch for him you know it has to be mental at this point I don’t know how else you could look at it as other right absolutely I agree uh Hey it does like I like Vegas as the final round um it was it was nice uh I liked Salt Lake is not as nice as for the final round Stadium track size all of that but whether it’s Vegas or Salt Lake it’s we’re we’re we’re in a situation like Denver where you can’t really push as hard as you want the track will only allow you to do so much so that I mean that’s why I’m kind of going with kitchen or RJ for the title whoever gets the start uh Zach didn’t agree with me but these the way the tracks are set you can’t really send it that much if you’re not where you need to be well I think it’s going to be interesting that it’s a showdown event um between these guys because you know we had a call earlier this week and we’re kind of talking about all the what if I mean if if they don’t start together they may not even see each other you know what I mean like we wna we want to build this thing up as it’s going to be this epic battle and and whoever be to but we know how these things go you know if kitchen starts third and RJ starts ninth that we’re looking for battle that may never develop because there is other talent in between them and they could stay separated the whole time so let’s hope you know let’s hope it it’s like a Dean V start in uh Philadelphia where they’re they see each other the whole time and they can just settle the score you know I don’t care if they’re battling for eighth and Ninth or yeah it’s for the win like it’s kind of irrelevant they won’t care either they know they only have to beat each other and uh it’s going to be really interesting to see I think not only the actual battle but where did they start you know they chose to start next next to each other last weekend which was I thought really interesting um I don’t know how they each felt that about that deep down you know kitchen starts have been wied out so I I don’t think that I would have necessarily gone right next to him if I had a choice uh but all those all those things will come into play every every decision made on on Saturday will have some sort of repercussion you know heat race gate pick heat race finish Main Event gate pick all those things are are going to play a major role I don’t see either one winning the race do you you know how these things play out I think it could I think it could um in the case of like the Al I think absolutely not but I think for both of these two they’re just they just have to let it all go right like they if they ride conservatively or tight at all I think they’re almost guaranteeing themselves a not winning the championship so you know a guy like RJ he’s at his best when he’s on the edge you know so lean into that I would say you know dance with the the lady that he brought right and and for RJ that’s riding your be yourself let it all he he’s very good in these hard slippery conditions which is always shocking to me I I can’t figure out why he would be good in hard slippery conditions but he is uh so yeah the the one I think outside of some sort of first turn catastrophe or crash or something the one thing that will keep you from winning this thing is tightening up and getting nervous you know these guys are going to have to go for it and the two best guys I believe in the 250 class are these two so it wouldn’t shock me to see one of them in it V takes this kind of easily you think no drama just just gets that done yeah I would I mean I you know we we’ve seen this time and time again whether it’s jet or Justin Cooper that one always sticks out to me they don’t take any risk you know that’s the kind of ride I think you alluded to for Lev our RJ I think he he’ll just Cruise like he’ll get a decent start because he is a great starter and then yeah jump the whoops find a rhythm if that’s sixth place eighth place so what you know he’s gonna he’s G to have someone constantly telling him what’s situation is where Hayden Degan is what the points are and then he’ll just manage his effort from there right because because the one thing you can’t do is Crash and you just want to lower the risk and and like that’s always what I think about for a guy of V’s talent I didn’t even think about myself where I was nowhere as good as he is I could do a thousand laps in a row at 80% Without Really any risk of crashing and that’s where I think V is gonna be like as long as you don’t press the envelope your risk of crashing is virtually zero right uh yeah um de sending it into the side of you but yeah um you know yeah and I don’t think that’s going to happen I think if there was any chance of that happening you we would have seen it in in h Philadelphia I think you’re right Hayden already kind of decided like nope that’s not gonna happen it’s not going to go down that way uh vertex Pistons Premier Choice for aftermarket Pistons gaskets complete engine rebuild kits as well manufactur Italy vertex Pistons are both cast and forged while the gaskets are proudly made in the USA All Balls racing group All Balls ringr group.com for more information vertex Precision equal performance thank you to vertex uh for coming on the Fly racing racer uh fly Racing moto 60 show Jason Thomas here 702 586 7857 we got some lines open still um big news with ET uh thumb surgery 6 to eight weeks I almost wonder if he did it did you see in first practice when he ojed the double of the triple I did but I was told he did it in that corner crash um where his hand kind of got weird on the bars when he fell so I I don’t no I don’t I don’t to be Absolut no in practice had a crash in practice okay uh in a rightand corner he lost the front end in the mud happen but you know I don’t I don’t have Rock Solid evidence of that um but that’s that’s where I was told it happen bummer for the series and for outdoors as well yeah it’s it’s rough on everybody it’s rough on the fans I think it’s you know rough on him to be right back in an emergency room again uh yeah I mean unless you’re jet Lawrence or Honda h C or chase seon I don’t see an upside really for anybody in this in this whole deal um it’s yeah it’s like the last thing we needed going into to Pro Motocross was to hear that news it is funny that it happened again at Denver his home race right yeah it’s terrible man gosh unbelievable um I mean think about think about monster star Omaha two two thumb injuries to their two stars you know and yeah now you know they have this insurance policy of Justin Cooper which I I hate to say he’s an insurance policy but I kind of felt that’s why they signed him to a full 450 deal was I mean because realistically you look at who they had they have two of the best guys in the sport they didn’t necessarily need a third and from what I was told it was kind of a stretch on the budget to do it now I’m sure they’re very very thankful that they did exactly that yeah yeah it should be interesting to see how Cooper can do maybe a little under the radar for outdoors maybe uh I me I had him as a top five guy so I’m take take two of the best guys out and I certainly have myself Five Guy uh SE so with that seon’s tied with Tomac coming into Salt Lake he’s now going to get third in the series um you think he car gives one [ __ ] about that though I do not I do not know that was the question we had posed this week is like does anybody care about this third in the series and and you know you’ve always tried to get these guys whether it was medy or shorty or anybody to get excited about like fifth or sixth in the championship and they just look at you like without a smile they just stare stare at your soul I think that’s probably how seon feels about this yeah I don’t think I don’t think it’s that big of a deal for him for sure uh fly Racing moto 6 so 702 702 586 7857 got a few uh lines open still do you think jet just goes for the win or do you think he takes it easy this weekend do you think he’s like you know he just needs five points on Coupe and and whatever um you know or just to around him Y no I think I think he will go for the win you know when you look at web’s injury I don’t think he’s gonna have much to give and take comak out of the equation I mean is he GNA like if Anderson or SE are just absolutely firing is he going to put himself into some sort of danger area to do no of course not right but if he gets a start and it’s right there then yeah why not um like he I think he’s pretty smart enough like his Race Craft and race IQ is high enough to know where his limit is he’s not going to put himself over the limit at all uh but you know the kid’s so damn good he usually doesn’t have to put himself there to win all right we got some phone calls for you here Chris is on three what’s up Chris hey how’s it going guys I uh have a question since all the Championships are being decided this weekend and as a former mechanic did you guys do anything special or have a protocol to make sure the bikes are really just ready and solid like do you have a mechanic double check it because a bike failure would just be such a heartbreaker for these guys no no nothing different at the last round you know you already do all precautions every race all year right um I could think of I could think of being on Yamaha when Chad was going to wrap it up and um you know yeah nothing was extra was said or Dawn or you know what I mean so um yeah I would think I think there would be some sort of extra effort there just because I mean the mechanics are losing a lot of sleep this week no no everything’s pretty much the normal you know you go through all everything’s torqued and everything’s safety wired and everything’s checked right so um yeah like you don’t yeah nothing you don’t want to do anything out of the ordinary just to you know stress or get anybody worried or whatever so no I don’t think that everything that they do all year long prepares them for every race right so imagine being a pro circuit mechanic and having a bike fure and having to deal with Mitch oh yeah I mean well just imagine anything I mean I’ve been there as a KTM team when our wheel blew up and Langston lost the title right um oh yeah that was horrible right we didn’t do anything to our wheels that day and no one thought about doing anything to our wheels and [ __ ] went sideways so yeah know it’s definitely definitely a matter of just you know being extra cost I think but all right thanks Chris thanks for the call oh you’re welcome have do one thank you thanks chance is on uh one I don’t think it’s Chance High Miss but uh chance what’s up yeah I just got a question uh is there going to be some new kinetic mesh coming out this year uh no there there’s not uh we just carried it over um to be completely transparent with you the apparel Market’s pretty soft and right we have pretty big numbers that we have to hit to to place an order at all uh and yeah just with the way market conditions were we just decided to carry this stuff for another year and then obviously we’ll come out with our new line in uh in August for 25 line okay okay and my second my second thing is is uh I got to compliment Steve I was watching the uh video against you and Keir were racing or whatever and uh man the weight loss man we can’t I don’t ever get to you know I watch the pulp show but you’re always sitting behind the desk I can’t you know we see it from the you know neck down but I was like man he’s looking good well I had I had to get in shape for that race I couldn’t let that bastard beat me you know uh so I really had to do it but thanks man I appreciate the words thank you and and if you really want to lose waight people just just exercise a lot and don’t eat it’s really really Miracle uh thank you man thanks appreciate it yeah JT that the kinetic mesh was brought out midyear 23 right so it’s not that not that old so um yeah we haven’t done it in a long time it’s not what we you know we don’t want to do that yeah um but yeah when you’re heav an inventory you don’t want to dump a whole lot more of inventory into the market you know so it’s uh yeah tough decisions have to be made sometimes it’s my favorite line of gear you guys make love it yeah yeah great especially living in Vegas especially yeah you know the how great that stuff is yeah absolutely flyracing.com everybody 25 years of fly please check it out um so uh zacho I’m gonna ask you for your winners at the end of the night or end of the show here in a little bit but zacho went with Hunter you think Hunter can get it done in Salt Lake the Denver you know Denver thing was not a not a weirdo to to zacho I don’t think it was a weirdo thing ever either um if you told me Hunter was back on the podium or fourth fifth I would say yeah that that sounds right um I do think that was you know the top of his range as far as as a ride you know like that was the best we’ve ever seen so I I it’s hard for me to say yeah he he’ll be the best he’s ever been two weekends in a row I don’t know that to be true we’ll see uh but you know that was that was incredibly impressive from Hunter I’m sure he gained a lot of confidence from it yeah so you think he can do it uh I think I think jet wins um I just think jet is so far away from like his limit uh and as soon as he needed to pick up the pace in that uh in that main event he did right like as soon as there was any urgency it was like okay I gotta go and he passed hunter from like a little way back in like three corners you know what I mean like it was just like as soon as he saw it was I just went right around him and then yes Hunter sat on him but we always see these little snapshots of where I think truly Jet’s ceiling can be if he feels pressured to to do something uh and yeah so always have that in the back of my mind and it’s really it makes me really hard to pick against jet okay so knowing that well okay I think Jason Anderson gets a Podium this weekend are you with me on that I do yes um you know he’s he’s been that’s two podiums in a row and he he looks like he’s on form two of the other guys are hurt you know why why would you not pick so that’ll be three podiums in a row If he if he gets it um my point being if you’re Kawasaki and Jason you got you got a couple of R up spots now you’re going to go three in a row so you’re going to end up with five podiums on the year no wins um you had those weather conditions that made the series you know a lot of tracks tough and a lot of tracks that you know clearly are not in his element um and he’s better on the hard stuff and it was a weird weather year can you if you’re Dan fahe or Jason are you just going to go wow we had W weird weather I’m not good in those conditions I did end up with five podiums Good Year or no um I think satisfactory be so not good answer is good is satisfactory below good okay yes not success because I think Jason is is capable and and look at the promise of the beginning of the Season how good he was the opener how good he was at A2 to not get a win let’s assume he doesn’t win Vegas which he absolutely could or Salt Lake Salt Lake if he wins if he yeah sorry if he wins the lake I I’ll give I’ll give it a successful season I just think it’s very hard to be the let’s face it he’s the number one Kawasaki Rider in America and not get a win after how great he was to open the season I don’t it’ be I would be hard pressed to say it was a success okay all right yeah I I I think I’m with you on that but when you’re look at past Super cost winner Champion right um yeah not like not upset with him but you know like Okay show your shoulders Y no no problem let’s keep it moving you know it just I think getting getting a win is a huge thing I said on social this week that Juju bu’s season has been a C+ and got attacked for that I felt like that was a fair take well I I can only go off of the people that are writing the checks and their opinion and and from what I’ve been told they’re very very happy with them so yeah I think it they they know it’s really early in his his kind of progression and what he’s capable of and he’s getting better and better uh so yeah if the people that are paying you and and decision makers are happy who am I to stand away that all right Eric’s on one what’s up Eric what’s your question hey Steve JT I a quick question I hear you talking to all these guys all the Riders about going to the Nations and they’re always complaining about how much money they have to spend just wondering why the AMA doesn’t kick in some money for travel expenses hotels flights they do they they pay $1,500 I think to each rider for expenses for Motocross donations yeah for Motocross donations yeah 33,000 $3,000 um so they give him $3,000 but like RJ said on our show a few weeks ago still cost him five grand or something six grand to go you know so that’s with parents and wives pretty much eat your one your three grand on a business ticket which I don’t I mean if I’m a rider and I’m going to this race I’m flying business I fly business and I’m not even racing right so like it’s not enough at theend end of the day it’s not enough nobody fault but it’s not it’s not Eric you want a pair of 100% goggles yeah absolutely all right thanks for the call thanks for the call question and stay on hold we’ll get it to you JT a couple of house cleaning items here first up Evan Ferry Wildcat um what do you think I think I don’t think I’ll ever do that Wildcat sound okay um but yeah I mean it’s uh I guess time will tell it was a really puzzling move for me um I thought he was in a very very fortunate position to get that ride uh it’s a pretty coveted spot you look at success they’ve had on that bike in a one a first year program man I I scratched my head as to why they would leave you know because it sounded like it was a mutual decision to leave it was that’s tough right I just think it was the right place and you yes okay are there going to be concessions made and you not always thrilled but you have to put yourself in the best chance to succeed and I I felt like that was a good one so now we’ll see you know this is an interesting place to land left funding can’t imagine the equipment be as good I don’t know that to be true but I’m guessing twisted stuff active ride suspension Twisted motor y it’ll be good yeah but you look at that Triumph bike is every around the globe they’re hole shotting all the time you know what I mean so it’s hard for me to think that bike isn’t very good so yeah you make decisions you think you do what you think is best for you and then you live with the consequences so I think the results this summer will kind of bear that story out one for the good or for the bad I was texting with his father perhaps you you know him also I’m familiar yes and uh he fully expects Evan to get worked early on uh and get better and he said we have to race he said we’ve raced eight times last year and and yeah you know what I mean like they need gate drops and this is it and he’s like he’s gonna he’s going to get you know I don’t think he I don’t think he used the word smoked but he he implied that he’s going to get you know beat down early on but that he has his race so well I I like that he’s realistic because I do think he’s jumping into the deep into the pool 250 motoross you know on a privateer bike that’s a really tough ass and that was why I was so hopeful that he would stay at triumphant beond he’s gonna be alongside saachi andik and these guys that could kind of drag him to the front and show him what the pace would be and so now I just don’t know right that that whole thesis is is gone um so yeah as long as they’re have the right mindset where this could be really really tough early on and they don’t get defeated or you know get your hopes kind of dashed uh then you work up from there that’s probably the right way to think about it uh also announced the fim has awarded Supercross Global 10 years of uh sanctioning rights for the World supera Series yeah I don’t I don’t have a comment on that 10 years 10 years yeah I would say uh they probably need about six months of that yeah H interesting I I no one likes to to do that stuff like the fim that’s they they like that stuff so uh yeah I mean if you if you told me that wsx was around in a year or two I I would be very surprised and and I don’t care like of course I work for a competing you know series sure on the broadcast side but I just look at the decisions that have been made and the way they’ve gone about things and I just it’s like a enless head you know just shaking up my head yeah no I think I agree with you Plum Creek funding by the way Zach over there has helped out a lot of people in Industry including JT and myself if you already own a home you’re looking to pull cash out contact a professional with 25 years of experience uh reach out to Zach today Zac plumcreek funding.com uh looking to purchase a home the rates are not bad I think they just went up actually they’re not great yeah first-time buyer investor vacation home like marks uh contact Plum Creek funding uh they got programs to suit your needs uh JT okay give me uh all three title winners and your race winners for Salt Lake man I could I was trying I wrote my column this morning and I could not decide who to pick for that 2 West I I’m I’m gonna I’m gonna go RJ toward a guy he wears quite racing like I I have to right like I should and I will and I have to uh but I don’t really have any conviction in it I think it’s it’s 5149 whichever side you want to lean uh of course the I think it’s pretty easy for him to win just don’t crash and then uh yeah jet of course Jet got this thing wrapped even if even if Cooper was 100% healthy I mean jet could literally ride around and get you know T if you wanted to okay and then race winners yes I’ll still take Jet and I I think I’ll go Hayden Degan to win the race just no pressure he’s gonna want to prove something uh yeah I’ll take Hayden okay fair enough man uh thanks for your time enjoy the golf tourney we’ll see you tomorrow okay guys see see you that’s Jason Thomas everybody fly Racing moto 60 show Maxis get 100% decal Works zuls seat Concepts vertex Plum crank funding all on board with us use the codes to save on ppmx show.com and even for these companies it’s listed underneath there as well um thanks to the folks at uh fly Racing for all that they do marks good job good job hey thank you yep tits don’t do it great job J great job I knew it way to come in yes Elevate the show like you always do unb unbelievable yep all right everybody thanks for listening good job in Supercross series both of you thank you and uh we’ll be back before Paula all right see you then when will I be again when will I be free again I don’t expect to understand I just like it answer to my question CH I gu how like I am myself stuck in a spot that I cre I’m TR in 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