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right here on the Woodward Sports Network we’re live at felin Chevrolet in Novi Michigan’s number one Chevrolet dealer you guys know the deal with that happy to be back out here in Novi my name is Neil rule that guy over there that’s dmac Darren mccardy we are on site we have kg in the building as well we also have intern Justin AKA juus in the building and stick is on the one and ones and twos today dmac we got a high level crew out here I’m just saying no we do have a high level crew it’s always uh great to be out here uh at Felman and uh in Novi um I’m glad uh you know it’s usually you’re out here on Mondays and now we’re out here on Wednesdays so great way to split up the week uh yeah how was your traffic that’s what stinks it was suboptimal I’ll just I will I will say it like that it was suboptimal but hey we’re here so it’s all good matter what you what direction you attack anywhere these days it seems so uh no beautiful day um I I wanted to ask you because uh I was in Royal Oak last night storms storms came in and it was ominous and and actually we in our neighborhood like right next door it lit I think lightning hit the ground because it it lit up like Christmas I was just wondering to up on the castle up on the hill did you see could you see this because you’re above the cloud cover correct dmac and and we we have a uh you know a natural force field that we have built around the the hills of Washington Township so you know rain we can see the lightning from up there but that’s just for other people how was the show oh it was good it was good it was really good actually yeah but you know we’re at the highest point uh of mome County out there but uh no it was it was electric so I hope everybody’s all right cuz I know it was it got pretty bad over on the west side of the state but the the lightning show was pretty incredible man no it it was in this time of year and I think it’s just uh at this time just everybody make sure you’re safe and you know uh I I think the biggest thing um PSA is that uh these tornadoes are real and usually we’re the ones who are observing them down you know South a little bit more but for whatever reason uh they are hit in Michigan now so everybody be safe if you’re told to get into a shelter uh take heat take heed no AB absolutely so I hope everybody’s doing all right I hope the power is working and all that kind of stuff uh we’re going to get into a little bit about the Tigers there’s uh there’s a situation that the morning show talked about the NFL draft and I think people are glossing over it and it’s absurd and it’s on brand and we’re going to get there uh as well but in the chat the people are hyped shout out Detroit City FC last night dmac beat the Houston Dynamo out of mls in the US Open cup down two nil on the road uh it goes to penalties at the end and and it was like is it okay remember back in I don’t know 20 years ago when I played shootout they went the Rangers went to like the 15th guy and it was Merck Malik Malik Merck who went through his legs or whatever was that a goenda on two things sure because you can yes what does that say about resiliency for uh dcfc to come back and win down 2-n against in an MLs Stadium on the road right in 92 heat with 95% humidity and and then Part B is that what does that say when it gets into 11 rounds of of that that’s unbelievable isn’t it well they just they cycle through everyone so but saying was it the goal tending or was it the ineptitude or how does that how does that get to that to that far yeah that’s a lot that’s that’s ridiculously a lot isn’t it in soccer well it’s it’s kind of like what you talked about with hockey you just everyone that’s out there participates was but but a shootout right a shootout in so in soccer and and I Maybe I’m Wrong is a lot harder than to shootout in hockey or whatever like you just got to hit your if you just hit your spot then there’s nothing that can be done about it correct so how did how does like what’s like more unbelievable it was it was high level attempts high level kicks you know but as you said they they found their their Mark there was no Keeper in the world that was going to stop it except for Carlos s the backup keeper for Detroit City cuz I you know I did the match on Saturday night they were in they were in Virginia just outside of Washington DC they went from there to Houston they have a match on National TV this Saturday so I mean people got it’s soccer like it’s not like it’s baseball you know you run 10 11 miles out there so they just they cycled through everybody it’s a legendary moment in the history of Detroit city it’s an incredible moment in in US soccer as well so I just wanted to give them their due man because they deserve that well yeah because and then then they came back from two nothing like that’s like that’s like unbel that’s unbelievable I mean I know we were talking earlier because uh um our intern was telling us that Dallas let him down last night after a three and nothing lead yeah Jamie who got got the wind blowing come through there right but that’s but that’s not as unbelievable as coming back against an that’s not an MLS team against an MLS team correct right it’s it’s sort of an under it’s like a triple A team it’s almost like amateurs versus Pros to break it down to simpler terms yeah to to to simpler right yeah well I mean dcfc is a like USL Championship is a professional show so everybody um I guess it gets it’s a long way to get to on Thursdays we have Trevor James who’s the sporting director of dcfc so these are questions that if if you have or you can ask because we’re we are in the mo we talk about the Lions all the time being in the middle of it well as far as like dcfc they’re putting us in the middle of they’re giving us a championship you know they’re competing at this high level they’re setting you know Club standards um Trevor’s talked about every time he’s come in is the fact that he’s able to go out and get better players and better players and and better players and it looks like you know not saying like at our level we’re we’re we’re becoming a destination yeah no no doubt and uh wward Sports Chat there the people are electric in there nobody says MLS big mad right now I mean I’m just saying Detroit City FC is the is are they mad Detroit City FC beats the MLS teams more than they don’t I’m just going off of facts that’s uh that’s exactly what happens but does MLS is are they as a league are they mad right now oh they gotta be yeah or do they just not care they probably don’t I can’t speak for I don’t know the Eric maybe uh here councilman I hope you’re uh closy I hope you’re listening right now you’re can answer me that like is it the arrogance of M MLS do they have that arrogance or do they see this as I see it as a good thing because that means competition right that means like Talent or something like like like you can be disappointed but I can see the Silver Lining or you have the arrogance that you don’t care I don’t know how MLS offers itself because if if this was the NFL like say for an example um I’m not I’m going to say like a a scrub team a replacement team like a XFL team came in and beat an NFL team the NFL would not be mad at that team it would be like it didn’t matter it’s just that team at the bottom we just like you put right the arrogance so just wonder Poss I’m just wondering if we’re going to give dcfc their due will will MLS well they just went and took it you know they no I no I they just did what Detroit just did we we won it we’re GNA get it I mean what a great story deal and I think it’s it’s a great way to lead off because it’s so important and we’ve always been about uh dcfc I mean I know that you get paid by him but the rest of us answer Noy exactly Northern guard baby Shad out that’s right you said your favorite photo of all time yeah you is you in the northern guard absolutely I I just saw it the other day too Woodward Sports Chat the red uh jump into there subscribe to the Woodward Sports YouTube channel get in there get your thoughts out there uh John says dcfc for the win of course hey I see what you did there um also in the wward sports.com chat Wyatt bear ask what happens after the goalies take penalties well they will they would reset and they would go through it all again say same as in hockey right when you guys if you I believe if everybody’s gone you reset except you know it’s different in the Olympics really in the Olympics or international hockey you can send the same guy all remember TJ Yoshi back in the day he went like five times in a row and owned right but no in international you can send the same person every time it’s that is wild man uh 71 MadCat Don Garber is crying he’s the commissioner of the MLS maybe I I can’t speak for it I I don’t know all I know is uh Detroit City FC is going on in the Houston Dynamo are going home so I just wanted to give them their due uh nobody MLS wants to kill the open cup so yeah I’d say they’re kind of mad LOLOL and there and there was the big you know there was the big whole spiel about it the MLS wanted to step out of the US Open cup and they didn’t want to be in there and they you know blamed it on Champions League matches and how tight the schedule gets R well I mean Detroit city like I said they played Saturday they played yesterday in Houston they’re playing again Saturday on National Television M I didn’t hear them say anything about it exactly and coming back now from to new that’s that’s tough in soccer that’s what I’m saying man so tough in any game against anything but I’m saying and to be honest the MLS shouldn’t be turning their nose up in anyone because they’re not the best soccer league in the world so not even close to Premier League well in the in the country they they Pride themselves well yeah they got messy but who else well it was messy for him yesterday for sure right yeah no came in and took it absolutely uh nobody says D I told you guys Dallas would choke and and intern Justins and shambles there is no doubt about that and and look Colorado’s still Colorado man and Nathan McKinnon still Nathan McKinnon and when you got the best guy on the ice dmac you got a shot yeah I mean these guys know what it takes because they’ve they’ve got through the Finish Line before they’ve won a cup so they can dig deep and you know I think what you saw yesterday too is that seven game series against Vegas like that emotion and tired and it’s sort of like hanging onto the Rope hanging onto the Rope because yeah they came out great and everything like that but Colorado got going and you could feel the momentum and that was that was a great example last night of how the big momentum can shift in playoff hockey so it’s still going to be a series it’s going to be a six or seven game series um Dallas probably come back and one game too but um yeah it’s exciting I mean the Rangers what they go double over time and and local boy Vinnie Cho with the uh OT winner but that that’s a heck of a series man did you see did you watch any of the Rangers uh Carolina uh I caught the highlights after it over trouba thank God he missed this albow Neil but he guy cut in on him and he went to hit him through him he’s vertical hitting his face and stuff against the boards I mean this man’s a monster out there blocking shots blocking shots just being a menace you know got to give props to the local boys yeah the Rangers came out fine and then also that that uh cheap slooh foot by uh spev um on that was into the wall that was dirty yeah oh yeah there there is there was some that that series is spicy yeah got you got to take hold of that because I’ve seen a bunch of undisciplined come back come back to get you yeah there that series is going to be a brawl to the end I think those are the two best two of the best teams in the league and they are deep they’re physical and they do not like each other at all yeah no the playoffs playoffs are everything you want no no no question but yes uh somebody asked can we talk about the lion some today so I can be bricked and stoked at the same time we’re getting you there have you ever heard of foreplay Jesus and and we will disc settle down hey Kenny I mean everybody just like what what do they want we no new I know exact thank you right no so we we are defitely going to get there we’re going to talk about the Tigers when we come back as well I got an NFL draft story for you that I that I think is just incredible but dmac hey man let it rip about dispo tell them about dispo see at dispo dispenser uh where did I stop on the way here I mean what are you talking about no get to see dispo everywhere as you can see on this screen there are many I believe there are 12 dispos around this great state and don’t forget about the CBD products it’s not all about the THC get that CBD products the topicals that I always preach about for health and wellness bottom line get 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Woodward sports.com baseball football basketball hockey there’s a Woodward Sports golf line as well you can catch stick at your local golf course rocking the wward Sports golf stuff as well shop. wward sports.com all right keeping a pushing everybody we are live at Felman Chevrolet in Novi Michigan’s number one Chevrolet dealer they got him in the lot they got them in stock they are ready to rock as well and I tell you this too like don’t sleep on on Felman Automotive in the service department as well shout out to them um my car got got in an accident uh they took care of it they got everything lined up I’m actually picking it up today rental car process was perfect it was easy I’m telling you guys your car need service Felman auto.com there’s there’s 18 of them around so I know that you’re close to one so you can get yourself set up there at the service department as well those people are highlevel Pros the tigers’s batting lineup was high level out of nowhere last night how about how about debut right were we talking about yesterday about opportunity the one thing that came to my mind as I was watching this or whatever is forget about the name right just looked at the fact that there are bodies that that talent in the organization this isn’t a one-time thing right you could say Okay Perez came up and he uh you know got hot and everything like this but no that that’s consistent now what’s the young man’s name Ryan valade right who’s been waiting his opportunity now it seems like it’s not the young guy right the draft pick that we’ve been waiting for that we’ve been always told because we’ve had them what’s Scot Harris is doing and you got to give him credit because this wasn’t an Alive’s Playbook so to speak but he’s calling guys up putting him AJ Hench putting him in the lineup and them delivering um so again I know we’re looking for consistency but how was your bottom of the lineup last night as a as a ma as a matter of fact last night uh 6789 right torlon they had 1 two three four hits they were four they were four for eight four for 13 four for 17 but the number in that is the four RB okay so there it is so my question to you Neil right as we’ve been forget the names right and obviously we can have a whole different conversation about tor’s production and his you know disappointment being what what expectation no home runs but that’s a different conversation this is you had a hit in a walk last night yeah this is the bottom of the lineup now is that what we were looking for is that the bar that’s set for the bottom of the lineup no matter what they hit so I mean God it’s 225 yeah right okay but the four RB so you don’t care as long as you’re getting production so is so if the bottom of the lineup produced that would you be happy yes that’s it so that’s it yeah cuz they weren’t they weren’t two for 14 with eight strikeouts no no but what I’m saying right Kenny I think Kenny you’re following me the fact that it’s really not a lot you’re not asking for yeah you’re not asking for vanilla chocolate and strawberry with the whipped cream I I just want dessert you just you just want just give me one one of whatever I’ll just take chocolate just just trim it’s really like it’s it’s not sexy yeah but it’s efficient right and one of the Tiger’s biggest problems is stranding Runners on base so yes we just need a little bit of hitting but more importantly you need to drive runers home when you have them on base well right and when it comes down to the bottom of the lineup before right you you get by what Carpenter or Cana and done normally zero yeah right you know so so there there’s a start you know that’s what we look but that’s what I’m looking for is there a consistent Help From The Bottom from the bottom of the lineup in in the each game look it’s very very basic everybody it is and this is this may sound bad that’s not expecting much is it no no and and here’s the deal dmac and this may sound bad and this may sound negative but I think you you know we’ known each other long enough you know where I’m coming from with this from your center field spot last night you had two for five with a run that was off the table when Parker Meadows was playing center field I’m sorry so now now you can dissect right now you get down a little bit deeper and dissect and say right again that and that’s is that that was not a possible outcome the minimum that you’d expect I mean two for five is aggressive every night but the moral of the story is like he has that in the toolbag WIIL Perez Parker Meadows did not how do I know that he was hitting 090 okay and and here’s the thing so go down and find it kid right that’s what we’re saying and that’s what’s been done so Parker medals really shouldn’t be in our conversation right now yeah the fact that it’s the right decision did AJ Hench did Scott Harris or whatever now I agreed because nobody’s saying give him more time he needs more time right right so the move’s been made right the replacement seems to be consistently that he’s going to be there do you think Perez is not going to be there for the near future or Perez uh Val I’m not sure because once Gio comes back he probably that’s that that’s okay but we’re talking about Perez right now in center field right I don’t think you you can’t send him back down this point no so so there you go Neil so let’s just watch that watch that go up maybe maybe I know we have the jav watch but maybe the more fun thing would be the center field pereat and here’s the deal and Javi by the way uh yesterday one for five did have a run did have an RBI did have two strikeouts average up to one and it’s funny cuz I got flooded with jav’s back you know it and then I checked and he’s one for five with two strikeouts and as soon as they sent me the El mago’s back tweets he struck out on three pitches all three curveball swinging out of the strike zone it was it was electric the man is back is back no you’re absolutely right he’s back no but DM the the the reason I bring that up is because and kg you you know I’ve been consistent with this throughout throughout the season yeah that’s how fine the line is one guy can flip it yeah and I’m not saying like it’s flipped and it’s fixed and and they’re going to be you know the the mid90s Colorado Rockies or anything like I’m not saying that they’re not going to be the murderers or o Yankees I’m not saying that but dmac that’s how fine the line is where when you quit [ __ ] around with the guy that’s in 090 and and get him out of the lineup and get just even a major league competent hitter that that has the capability of getting two hits in a game you see how things can CH that’s my point kg about all that’s how fine the line is with here it’s crazy that 225 is like a a breath of fresh air that’s what I’m saying like it’s nuts and that could be the difference between winning this Division and losing this division did that Cleveland Guardians team last night you know what I walked away with last night not that the Tigers got 11 runs I didn’t walk away with that what the Guardians are frauds like come on man are they the Minnesota Vikings like that’s that’s the best that might be us but that’s the best that’s in this division was what I saw last night come on this this thing is wide open for the taking yeah I believe so but they got off to a good start man they’ve been playing Better Baseball than we have so it just is what it is but 11 runs you can’t expect that every every day unfortunately with this team but it is nice that we do have depth that you can plug in and that they immediately came in and produced and that is something that we need Max mayor in the Woodward Sports Chat don’t tell me the Tigers won’t spend Neil the Tigers have the most expensive eighth hitter in the history of baseball I know he’s back hey poor poor Dan Dickerson and look yeah look I do it too so I’m gonna let you you know how I let you guys behind the curtain for a little bit like look I know when when you when you do play-by-play and you work for teams you’re an extension of of PR you are yeah I do it 100% I do it I’m not I’m not ashamed to admit that I do that that’s part of the job that you sign up for when when you take that job you know um Dickerson was talking about jav’s double play rate and things like that last night and you know how how good he is defensively and look that’s our job that’s what we have to do so I’m not hating them for it absolutely not I get it Dan I know I know when you I know when you got to turn chicken chish chicken is into chicken salad man I know it so uh it’s just I feel bad for the guy you know that don’t feel bad I know one thing he gets to go home and look at his Pat absolutely he does can we be honest and at least say that he hasn’t been the absolute worst thing about the Tigers this year jav bias he’s been bad don’t get me wrong oh no the more the more compared to the other problems that we have I don’t think he’s been the abolute worst because those problems are fixable with the stroke of a pen well jav is not no I I I’m starting to start you know it’s more like what’s up a torque yeah you know then that’s more concerning but watch at this me not we’ve all made bad purchases we’ve all bought the boat got the car more something like we’ve all been there that we’re still paying for you did that D wrote a book about it yeah right exactly go check my last fight story hockey rockar get Amazon wherever books are sold all about it check bankruptcy record no you know what it like we’ve all done it it happened so and that regime isn’t here to your point Kenny I’ll tell you this to your point I’m it’s actually jav’s been more I haven’t been he’s been jav and then it’s like oh okay so when we do jav watch or when when everybody goes online Al M goes back it’s like because he’s he’s made some good defens but he is what he is we’ve all made that bad purchase bad we’ve all spent bad money no but but the difference is dmac like when you bought the motorcycle or you bought the car or the boat or the jet ski or whatever you could sell it recoup some to most some to mostes this one you can’t this one this is a custom built yeah this one is not trade inable yeah you know like appreciate it the day you got it it depreciated immediately and it’s it’s four years100 million go into the thanks Uncle yeah so talk to little Chris man that knocking knocking the garbage cans over uh no that one is not fixable there’s nothing you can do about that that’s the problem with the so take the right there’s nothing you can do maybe we got to write it out maybe it’s that relative that won’t leave yes the drunk uncle well no you don’t want to kick him out on the street but you know you know he gonna show out every time he show up but yeah but he’s also lives somewhere else but it’s like that it’s it’s it’s like that family member that you got to take care of right like can’t oh yeah lfg uh Neil Tiger’s hitting with men on base Dante bash’s not walking through that door or Todd h no I lfg I know this they’re flawed like they are they’re flawed and and look you can you can do that and I can say that right where I can say look you you take Parker meows out of this lineup you get you get a competent person that has the ability to get two hits and look at the change on the flip side of that coin you can say well look what it took for the Tigers to get 11 runs in a game it took Andy aan hey Hitt hitting two home runs and Ryan valade coming up and getting his first major league hit and getting two RB on it like that’s what it took yeah certainly you can you can say both sides of that yeah I’m going to CH I’m going to choose you know I’m going to choose the first one and say that’s how thin the line is yeah very thing it is man like that’s that’s what’s crazy to me that’s why but that’s why we’re on Tor so much too because if he can unlock himself this offense can go to a whole another level that you know we haven’t seen yet and they’ve managed to stay above water this whole time you know what else is getting lost in this too by the way Matt verling hitting 282 and Riley Green’s hitting 264 for like as much as we hype up Riley green and stuff like that like Matt verling has been probably the most consistent for average hitter yeah that that the Tigers have yeah he’s been solid he’s had games here and there where he wasn’t the best but overall he’s been great this year and I know last year he wasn’t you need Matt beerling to win him B yeah a team needs two mattlings to win M 280 which again that is a glass of ice water after 33 days in the desert yeah but isn’t 280 the old 300 yeah probably yeah probably so I just I wanted to bring that up um because it is rack I like when they harp on about how bayz is the best tagger in the game he’s 100% the worse rack come on give Dickerson some slack he got to do his job rack you you like games I’ve done I’ve done the same thing like if you think that’s bad you should listen to the FS1 Pistons uh show because they got a they got a hard job no you got to do it man like that’s that’s part of that’s why I always laugh about when play-by-play guys and color guys are like well yeah they’re you know they’re they’re defending the team and stuff like that that’s the job they work for the team I work for the teams man so what do you want from me got do what you want I give you what you pay for this is a professional relationship I I do job you give money yeah I do job you give money pretty simple right it is it is it’s really really simple actually it’s uh it’s it’s like the fact that we have a new Morning Show it’s easy 8 to 10: a.m. boom Monday through Friday you are in there that is right it’s a wake up Woodward show you know the players you know the game that’s right kg JB smooth we have broer we have Kool-Aid and of course you guys know we have uh the Pasty armed man himself of course it is going KNE today man’s got Casper knees his knees so white the John Stockton esque Sam flannel 8 to 10 a.m. Woodward Sports Network Detroit’s number one sports network don’t forget that guys we are Detroit’s number one sports network go look at any metric you want Woodward Sports you you smell that that’s Brad Holmes cooking and the offseason smells good Woodward Sports what’s up everybody Neil rule big deer Woodward Sports Network home of the Planet Fitness Studios let me tell you a little personal story about myself with Planet Fitness Planet Fitness helped me change my life and it can do the same for you the best gym in the gym game the clean facilities tons of cardio equipment tons of Weights as well and look through all the price increases inflation all that hasn’t happened at Planet Fitness still a dollar down 10 bucks per month $24.99 a month for the black card as well it’s Planet Fitness everybody where your Fitness is essential yeah man what’s good man how you doing what you got for me today let’s have 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Big D energy Woodward Sports Network Neil rule Darren mccardy we have kg we have Justin the intern stick is on the ones and twos a high Lev Squad out here shout out shout out Felman Chevrolet here in Novi as well sawter on the way in did you yeah it was nice to see him everything’s good look busy they are they are booming around here man it’s good it’s good how this I drive that the black Corvette oh that black Corvette’s got my name written all over it there you go dmac that that is the one for you um so yeah get on out here you need a Chevy they got you um my man Tim Brown no not the Heisman Trophy winner uh he’s up here uh slinging the cars as well he’s the EV expert uh ad forom no Neil your name your cat is named Wolverine it most certainly is not it most certainly it most certainly is you know why that is yeah I know Hunter H uh who harded uh elaga was a Dollar General Brandon in on the field an overpriced damn Dollar General Brandy is just crazy overpriced garbage food at McDonald’s food at the register um so yeah okay that’s what it is hey I did want to talk some football today and we are there’s a couple lines things that we’re going to get into but kg alerted me to this that that they talked about on the morning show this escaped my attention and you told me tyon Arnold was on a podcast in Alabama right yeah so he did a a podcast for uh some people in Alabama and um on the podcast within the first few minutes of the podcast he revealed that the Las Vegas Raiders wanted to draft him I can’t remember they were at 13 I believe yes um they wanted to draft him and it came down to a coin flip a literal coin flip um between no not not a figurative coin flip as in oh man we can’t decide you know how how we going to decide between teron Arnold and Brock Bowers not a not a not a figurative coin flip you said they actually flipped the coin a literal coin flip between him and Brock Bowers they flipped the coin Brock Bowers won they drafted Brock Bowers did you say who flipped the coin the Raiders no but who who of the who is responsible for oh I don’t know it I I would like to think it’s not pierce the the coach it would have to be would been Mark Davis that pumpkin pie hair cuted freak would it was it was it him that was doing it well I mean we’ve seen him make uh decisions like this before so I I think it’s safe to say it was Mark Davis I just I don’t know commitment to Excellence dmac and we’ll get into some so unbrand if that’s true like there’s no reason not to yeah the decisions that they’ve made over the last decades isn’t that on brand it’s on brand have you D I mean that that might have turned their whole organization around because that’s probably the guy like when they drafted him I was like oh okay that makes sense that’s probably a smart and not to sh Brock Bowers cuz he is the top tight end coming out of college you know no question not to shade him but deciding your first round draft Brock Bowers is a is a fine player the point trying to make is look at what making human decisions in the past for that organization has got them this might be the smartest like we may rag on it but let the universe decide dmac like like which is a joke right you don’t want that to happen but look I’m just saying their past history hasn’t been very good yeah this might be the best thing that they’ve done and this could have been one of them things where ownership got maybe too involved um maybe the front office wanted which is terion and then he might have wanted Brock Bowers and it came down to a coin flip dmac people wanted to know if it was black Mark Davis that flipped the coin remember remember when we had black Mark Davis on the show remember that yeah that’s funny yeah before the Monday Night Football game that we got to get him back on black Mark Davis he’s got to recap the Raiders draft uh his free agency decisions maybe about this conversation that we should ask him bring us inside the room when you flip the coin so black Mark Davis if you’re out there man hit us up yeah hit me up on social media we got to get you back on as as the season gets closer but dmac has there has there ever been anything more absurd yet more on brand in the history of sports than the Raiders literally flipping a coin between terion Arnold and Brock B you just made the AR I just made the argument why it made sense for them right so no it doesn’t it it yes Neil if I if you think about it on responsibility for million yet billion dollar organizations yes uh it shouldn’t be that way but like I just said to Kenny I said yeah look at the human decisions they’ve made in the past might be the best one and then the the worst part is okay you flipped the coin fine but how do you tell Terry and Arnold that in a phone call like how does he get that information that oh yeah we wanted to draft you we flipped the coin it was Brock B sorry like that’s crazy how do you let that information get out did he say how he like somebody ter and Arnold during the interview literally said the the Raiders interview organization called him after the draft because they were talking to him before and during the draft after the draft they called him and they said yeah it came down to a coin flip now allegedly the Raiders were going to trade back up into the first round to try to attempt to get terion again but it never happened never materialized He also mentioned that Brad Holmes was willing to trade up to 15 or 16 to to go get terion I told you he also revealed that so that’s you’re right I you’re right yeah but it’s it’s just it’s hilarious to me they I’m I can’t get past this like here’s an idea have like Scouts they tried that in the past people who evaluate that’s the point I’m trying to make is they’ve tried that in the past we are at a fundamental I get it no no dmac we are at a fundamental no we’re not this difference that we can’t get here no it’s not fundamental obviously like that that’s what it’s so on brand is so on brand right like they might you know what did you know that when we find out it was like the sorcerer that flipped the court like whatever they brought in some they needed to do something different I guess they couldn’t make they they used everybody they’ve hired in the past to make decisions and whatever like that hasn’t made the right decision for that organization this this might be the right decision and it’s probably Davis ended up to what what if Rock Bowers goes for 13 hyy and and 10 touchdowns this year who Aiden okano was his quarterback what if he does come on man come on what if he does I think they’re trying to recapture some of that that energy they had with Darren Waller but I just I don’t I don’t see it man he doesn’t have a quarterback Steve wild says it was probably figuratively speaking no Steve the reports are they literally flipped a coin that’s that’s what I gather from it hey can we put up a poll right now in the Raiders coin flip I think the video is still in in the system if he can I don’t know I’m not sure if they can pull it up I just yeah I just I just I just want to do a YouTube pull in the coin flip was tyon Arnold’s heads or tails do you think tyon Arnold was heads or tails he had to be heads because Tails never fails so I just want to know what the people think I I just I just I need to know man it wasn’t even like the same side of the ball either it’s like offensive and defense like it’s it’s crazy man but like you said it’s on brand crazy it’s on brand a corner and a tight you’re flipping a coin between a corner and a tight end no Kenny I understand that’s I understand Neil’s point but I’m just saying that maybe this the universe they had to let the universe decide apparently that right isn’t that what a coin flip is commitment to Excellence man people don’t believe it Steve says there’s no way that’s true watch the video y’all We we played it earlier on wake up Woodward so that is there’s no way Steve I’m with you Steve there’s no way that’s what he said I don’t I don’t believe this uh Bob Ross I believe when I heard it Bob Ross 1977 I just watched it on YouTube seriously I need footage of it I need I need footage of that I I want to see it I sent the link to you I know I know you did I’ll check it out after the show uh Todd saying Bowers Woods heads ey win tails you lose all right stick you got it how how long is this 40 seconds all right I want to hear this all right I went on a visit there and honestly they told me they said you’re one of those guys we have to trade up to get but uh our paths may cross uh we don’t think we’ll be able to get you and um my agent Nicole she did a very great job of just she actually text him that following morning and said hey you know it’s a heavy old L receiver uh quarterback heavy offensive draft class man y y’all might have a chance and then just from going back and talking to him they uh they knew that the Raiders it was a possibility they took me and actually the Raiders coach they called me after the draft they were like you know we actually had a coing toss between you and Brock Bowers and landed on him I was like oh wow all right so they he said they flipped the coin man I I told you are so Steve are you say I cuz I’m not going to call Terry Arnold the liar yeah I’m not so that is wow they flipped a they flipped a coin for a draft pick the crazy the number what they were 13 Universe decide the number 13 pick in the NFL I think Kenny’s point that it the fact that it wasn’t between like enus and Arnold like the two quarterback it was between offense and Def the more we talk about this the more absurd this is it’s always going to be absurd it’s the Raiders ma we had 40,000 plus watch the draft shows we did mock drafts we do NFL draft shows year round people can’t get enough of it they love it it puts up there were three qus of a million people that showed up to watch the draft and the Raiders are on that stage flipping coins to see who they take the 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receive it yeah uh we’re talking about the LA Raiders or excuse me the uh Las Vegas Raiders and uh with the 13th pick in the draft allegedly they flipped a coin between tyon Arnold and Brock Bowers and Brock Bowers won and the more we talk did he well that’s to be determined that is to be detered we don’t know who won that coin toss yet we won we won that coin Lions won that Li won that coin to us um we asked do you think tyon Arnold was head or tals uh heads at 69% of the vote right now nice nice a nice result we’ll lock it in right there 69% of the uh the people said yes but real quick before we move on here that just goes to show you again going back to it we had what couple hundred people at our draft scene where we were at out there over by coer Park 3/4 of a million people passed through the gates um tens of thousands of people watching the draft shows you watch watch our draft coverage all year long the draft is probably the biggest thing daytoday in American Sports is that fair oh yeah I think that’s fair to say absolutely I’ve never heard it explained like that before but it sounds like it makes sense and it just it’s another example of we think things are so involved and so great and guess what guys they’re not it’s not three4 of a million people at the draft watch the results of a coin flip with the 13th overall pick from the Raiders how does the Raiders fan base feel about that you is it setting in they’re happy cuz they got their guy no but I’m no I mean it’s setting in I knew it was ludicrous but but look at the Neil what about the organization and the way they’ve done things in the past and the guys they’ve hired and what’s worked out for them does is this like off brand or something that doesn’t seem like a I’m I look at it like okay my point is my point ISAC I bet you this goes on in life way more than we think oh of course way more like we think like experts and 100% it’s just like you know like what do we really know we don’t what do we know 20% yeah of what the truth really is I I just I bet it’s like that that’s all oh oh we got to I just like Neil I just think you’re approaching this all wrong right like you’re thinking longterm the right decision I’m thinking I either get Margo Robbie or I get Sydney Sweeny I flip the coin and I’m happy that’s that’s what I’m thinking the Raiders like they’re they’re like we’re going to be happy either way let’s get one of them which one’s it going to be I don’t know you don’t know flip a coin that’s absurd stick you have your preference in that situ you you would go to you would go to the stage and choose Margo Robie like come on that’s go that’s the next poll that’s the next po go back over to the screen stick fired up right now I I’m in bottom line which one because if did Maro Robbie doesn’t win this poll 8020 then I can’t help you it doesn’t sound like the most absurd thing right now but if Brock Bowers doesn’t work out then it looks absolutely insane like see what I’m saying like if he blows his knee out in game too you’re going to look pretty stupid uh bada bing bada boom in the chat Mark Davis has the haircut of a monk from 1420 he needs sandals lady James haircut for men Mark they can help you out uh let’s go let’s go Red Wings party Brandon catch 100% has the Mark Davis haircut oh I I can see it oh I don’t I don’t want you represent me if you got that haircut Jesus this isn’t guys stick just put it up in the this isn’t a this isn’t a serious poll this is like putting Parker medals in your lineup That is not a serious lineup what why is everybody dude come on I think s just wanted to do this pole I think that was his excuse to get this poll off dude it’s it’s pole tone it’s totally anti can you not tell this is the chat just because Neil wants it the one way this is all the way how many people in the chat are Wolverine’s fans of Neil rebell this is Neil gets a lot of rebellion from the chat this is we’re we’re watching in real time the Rebellion against Neil oh it’s 5050 right now cuz he’s got his minions he’s got his loyalist oh look at it’s just coming down to the wire a tight race between this is tone this might be a photo finish this is Paul tone right here look it now SL Fest dude this is this this is this is what they were going through in the there this is this is a you got to trust the Scout that’s willing to die for it because I scouted Margo Robbie in Wolf of Wall Street or let the football people make the football decisions how about that stay out of it Mark what this is crazy he is I mean he is up there man like I don’t want to say he’s Jerry Jones level but he’s up there in terms of like involving himself and it not working out uh Elgato Robbie and Wolf of Wall Street exactly Steve Young stre dude I mean smok Joker girl yeah come on yeah what are we talking about here what’s Sydney Sweeney in Stick 5149 Robbie 5149 Sweeney 5149 Robbie [ __ ] we might have to flip a coin this this is getting tight man rers around the clock oh my gosh it’s I do love this show sometimes when stuff like this happens how this can like take over the show coob Zilla go watch Euphoria your mind will be made Sweeney all day let’s not do that no art vanderlay Wolf of Wall Street was 10 years ago I know art and I can’t get it out of my mind it is one of the best movies ever made 5050 and she was a Spoke show in that movie and that’s almost a 100 votes the only thing worse than a coin flip is Rambo rock paper scissors for the draft pick like that’s the only thing that can be worse than the coin flip like a coin flip all right who you want uh Robbie 5248 question you like is that is it really the most absurd thing that you’ve heard um I guess um irresponsibility like that’s how you look at it at at the top or is there what like what is I’m just trying to think what’s what is more irresponsible just letting somebody pick or hiring somebody as your GM or or an owner superseding a GM or whatever like this and a pick that’s yeah the owner overriding the football people that you hired is kind of is a word it’s insane yeah now and but you know what even that I can handle because there there are owners in sports like Jerry Jones uh maybe Mark CU like things like that where I can see like they they are the owner and they own their team and they they want to interject their thoughts yeah it never usually works out well right but in the end I could I could see that this wasn’t even a casee of that this was them the the Raiders flipping a coin for the 13th pick in the draft at4 of a million people go to that dominates the sports media landscape 247 hey here it is what’s the Carolina what what is it terer yes what’s his DAV what’s his equivalent because isn’t he like the most deed up no at this point he’s probably the worst owner in sports because he’s just a medler and just in and out like what what is what would be something that he did quick story before the draft um speaking of David terer uh there was a restaurant in Carolina and they had a sign out front that said let the football people make the draft picks David teer saw this and went in the restaurant to press the manager about why the sign was out there and this is lit they have him on video this is right before the draft I think like a day or two before the draft there stick come on that’s Margo Robbie all day wow that’s Margo Robbie thck I like your analogy because it’s just like Las Vegas said we win either way that is unless Brock hey this is when hey because did it looks crazy how do you hey how do you this this is another Uncle D example how do you know your next level look at if you’re the wingman what you get yeah Wing shout out Greg Al in the chat all power to him man I hope it work out I hope Brock Bowers a thousand yard tight end yeah that it it is with Ain no cter as your quarterback that’s what I’m saying that’s like you you have to have an opinion like a coin flip between B bonick and uh another yeah like that’s that makes a tight in in a corner all right all right there is some other line stuff that I do want to get into all right uh Margo Robbie 51 49 right now you want to let it run through the break let’s let it run through the break all right let’s let it run through the break and uh and see what happens um but yeah the bottom line is it’s just it’s absurd shout out to Terry off for giveing this that J Swiss insurance however is not absurd de no Swiss isn’t uh excuse me Swiss insurance is not absurd everybody need don’t flip a coin with your insurance yeah don’t flip a coin with your insurance go to Swiss insurance today Swiss ins.com see my buddy Mark Swiss ins.com today uh don’t let insurance companies overcharge you Mark will make sure that that they don’t tell them Woodward Sports we sent you go to swits today he is something else how big is that all of Detroit sports teams live on Woodward all of Detroit sports coverage lives on Woodward Sports driving the best in Detroit sports coverage what’s 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planetfitness.com it’s Planet Fitness where your Fitness is essental IAL all right keeping it pushing Big D energy Woodward Sports Network in honor of the Las Vegas Raiders who flipped a coin for the number 13 draft pick no for real Brock Bowers tyon Arnold tyon Arnold said it on a on a sports show in Alabama on a podcast he was on we played the audio you heard it they literally flipped a coin so we have it on the chat poll right now Margo Robbie Robbie or Sweeny where he at lot of uh stick a lot of hate for you on here saying that if you know easy said that if you only show Sweeney’s face she she’d lose in the landslide why didn’t Margo Robbie get the full effect I mean why couldn’t you pick a better pitcher you know doesn’t matter Margo Robbie is yeah I think that’s settled I think it is too uh 5248 Margo Robbie has locked into the victory there so there you have it everybody couple sh out to man couple eight threes for the win yeah good you know no doubt no doubt about it can’t get this analysis anywhere else B no shout out Margo Robbie you know we’ll see you on Big D energy sometime I remember tomorrow top five oh yeah that’s right top five movie villains top five Wednesday moves to top five Thursday top five movie villains I am looking forward to that one the Diabolical Jenny from Forest Gump if she’s not number one on every list then I can’t help you she won’t be number one on M but she’s in there got to put her in there no she she she is definitely she is all time like Hall of Fame level bad yeah well hey the the whole Tyrion Arnold discussion and and the coin flip uh of Las Vegas Raiders s was funny to say it does uh so they got Brock Borth they did not get teron Arnold however the Detroit Lions did so I I guess for me dmac and I haven’t done this a ton so I’ve been I’ve been looking forward to to doing this and just kind of taking a look at how the the cornerback room more importantly the cornerback depth chart how that looks because dmac I I think when you when you trade draft as uh assets to move up into the first round to take a corner that many had regarded as the number one corner available I mean they did I I was not a believer in quinan Mitchell uh I think tyon Arnold is is is better in that respect but dmac when you do that I think that indicates to me that he’s going to start for you oh for sure I’m not I’m not being obtuse here and was addressing that need sorry of of the number two and you could say what you want about acquiring Robinson from Vegas but uh no they needed this guy this this is what their plan is and they plan on him starting and I thought that they had their eye on it i’ love the fact that Brad Holmes came out and said exactly what I thought is the fact that he was willing to move up to into the teens to get his guy yeah right so I I think that that’s the plan now um are you comfortable with that whatever like we’ll we’ll wait and see cu the best thing what did we just say coming out of the draft and and out of free agency and everything like that the hungriest uh room is that cornerback room it is and and I mean guys are going to want to eat so again it goes back to does it Ma yes you want it to be your young guys that you drafted and stuff like that but it doesn’t really matter who it is as long as it gets done yeah and and Brad Holmes and he’s going to get first shot I mean he’s your first round he should get first shot right you like him for this and that and it’s almost like it it doesn’t mean it’s his job he’s got and and do you not think on this team with this coach you have to earn your playing time yeah he’s came out and said it but he’s shown it to me I mean on on the surface yeah you would say they invested a third round pick and a first like he’s going to be your starter um the way they they like to operate and the versatility that they like to use I think is going to be a rotation much like we’ll see on the other side of you’re ultimately right because it’s kind of like uh when people talk about soccer right and and the in formations in soccer and the formation they start with soccer fans go wild about that and it changes about six minutes into the match and then it just doesn’t matter anymore right just people running around and like I I I think it’s funny because I even caught myself right there kg when you brought that up I said Man Neil think about this for a minute it’s starter like a name only like the first play of the game yeah then after that it’s probably matchup driven right yeah look at the um Monty uh Gibb situation is it’s very similar yes on on paper you would put mati as rb1 but they they they’re matchup based they use them in ways that that they’re both kind of starters it’s really 1 a 1B so I can definitely see that with this cornerback room because you look at the names you got amek Robertson you got Carlton Davis now terion and and n STW and you still have Manuel Mosley set to come back to who is quotee uh cornerback one material so here’s the thing I just think your two first rounders they just have to be one yeah one guy right like you know what I mean one doesn’t have to although they’ll push each other yeah but that they’re looking to help each other out and maybe that’s going to help that they’re going to have to you know they learn at the same time yeah right I I know like just thinking back about you know you sort of have classes and I don’t know some people call it clicks or you know groups or whatever like that but it’s usually by your age group or when you come in or your draft class or when you play together yeah and you know that’s sort of what the grind line basis was with you know our wings teams Aussie you know Marty Le Point you know um and all that stuff so there there’s a nucleus to it so it’s it’s it’s something that that it and that might FasTrack right cuz with to and then you know both pushing each other but also to know that they also don’t have to be the end all be all and you got to look at all of these guys that they have in this room now they all have similar skill sets like we were talking about on the morning Woodward show uh Ray straw and Arnold are used to playing in the slot who’s also used to playing in the in the slot aiek Robertson but they could also all play outside amek can play outside R straw can play outside outside tyon can play outside versatility is what I think that they might be one of the greatest assets they bring they they might do something they might have a dime packages this year where you got all all the guys on the field maybe there’s something new yeah like maybe there’s a new look or maybe there’s something new that you can use but that’s talent that’s the Brilliance of Brad Holmes though one I felt like yes he’s accounting for versatility but he’s also accounting for okay Carlton Davis he has injury issues if he goes down we’re not in the same spot we were last year we don’t have to throw a kindall VOR out there in the playoffs and the helmet bounce off happens like we got better talent in that room now and I feel like that’s what he was that’s what he wanted all along didn’t Aaron Aaron Glenn’s like Christmas wish list get filled like I mean yeah what like pretty much what more could you ask for I mean from free agency to the draft or whatever like this like I mean how excited is he yeah got to be I feel bad for Kindel VOR like that’s his that’s his legacy right now and that it that play didn’t happen because he’s awful or bad I mean he was there he just didn’t make the play but to spenny’s point he’s we’re not going to be in that position where he’s there again and you know God bless him opportunity but again was a guy you signed you had to flip a coin with who you going to put at cornerback out there seriously there you flipped the coin well I guess it’s VOR this [Laughter] time uh Woodwards boards Chad thread jump in to their uh GW the kid yeah it’s going to be matchup base cuz I’m not going to lie Robertson at 59 510 up against 63 64 right receiver and yeah you know no doubt and that was my concern with him yes he can play the outside very well but there is a size mismatch there that teams would like to exploit I don’t know about having him having him as your number two uh Corner the whole time you know uh Tyrion Arnold and Carlton Davis right that’s what we’re looking at it’s what it’s what it’s looking like yeah right now like if there was a game tomorrow yeah that would be it that’s what I would think and how comfortable are you you’re better than you were when you ended the season in NFC Championship yeah yeah and it’s it’s funny because for me it’s it’s not that it’s not saying those names out there and being like Oh I’m cool with that it’s now amek Robinson and Emanuel Mosley are your twos like those are your twos and look we we could talk about Mosley is he compromised was he hurt yeah but that’s also the reason he’s still here yeah so you know I mean mean six in one hand half a dozen in the other I can only go by face value and then your third string what do you got dorsy and Kel vildor right like that’s what it is I’m a big Steven Gilmore guy as a as a fourth guy you think they’re going to add more to this room after after doubling down he’s here you know like oh well oh I thought you meant like the other Gilmore my bad yeah no you got stepen Gilmore too which you know he made a play like when you’re when your four string dude has made like a play in the league or a game system and knows and you know the comfortability that yeah that this organization likes with guys that are their culture guys yeah they just needed more options because last year they had absolutely none uh once the injury started to pile up uh all day and we’ll we’ll ride off on it uh with this uh all day my question is when it comes to the Raiders what if you had the exact same draft grade for those two players how do you how do you pick and all day like my my thing is like there’s there no stick shut up here’s the deal here’s what it is one one of those Scouts has to pound the table Yeah and take a stand your job is going to be on the line if you that’s your job yeah because I believe in what I do like let’s real world it right how about this how about they’re both arguing and Mark Davis just went we just flip a coin you got to flip the coin but that’s maybe that’s the way like that’s more or less if I’m an owner though I’m trusting my football people this is what I hired you fail then I fire you’re sick and tired yeah yeah look there’s there’s got to be one guy that stands up and and yeah Mark Davis said let’s flip a coin I do it for my hair when I get my haircut I flip a coin and as you can how was this presented what you talking about he does it the same way every time there’s no coin flip it’s a ball that flips over backwards it’s been Tails 822 times in a row man yeah yeah I wonder if that’s how his daddy did it coin flips like for me I would either way NE I just I don’t understand how it can get there’s got to be somebody when when we’re in our jobs right like you do your job don’t you feel like you’re a lead at your job like if we had a situation where it was going to be the biggest moment Woodward Sports history give me the microphone yeah no doubts I’ll take the microphone let’s go there there’s no debate to it to me now there might be debate to the the the ownership or the people that are in charge of that decision but to me I’ll pound the table and say yeah go go with me in this one this is my guy and I’m willing to ride with it yeah that you know like not flipping a we’re just going to say hey let’s flip a coin and see who gets on the mic you know no no one’s no one’s going to do it that way dude like I don’t know it’s just it’s wild to me it will always be wild to me uh glorious cannabis dmac they’re not wild no not at all and you know with the new diamond dust you know which makes the tpen which is the flavor even better you know what I will 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who’ve had a good knockdown drag out there they go right on the whistle they were talking to one another Woodward Sports Neil Ru here for Felman Automotive we’re live at Felman Chevrolet in Novi Michigan’s number one Chevrolet dealer but did you know there’s 18 Felman automotive locations in and around the Metro Detroit area go to Felman auto.com it’s not just Chevy too any kind of brand you’re looking for Felman Automotive Group has you covered I’ve been talking about it the service department angle as well you know there’s a Felman Automotive dealer close to you go to Felman auto.com you need service you need a new car whatever your Automotive needs are they’re goated and they’ve been around since 1996 they didn’t just show up here last week they’re one of the best in the city at it go to Felman auto.com all right keeping it pushing everybody Big D energy Woodward Sports Network you guys just won’t let this die and this one this one kind of bothered me here you love it Neil you love it talk about stuff like you’re figuring them out oh yeah figuring them out I’ve been on his tail for a while pause mik Neil is anti- coin flipping you are too serious about your decisions Michael we are talking about the 13th pick in the NFL draft not where mik go is going to go for dinner tonight how much how much money is the 13th like we’re talking about a commitment it’s a 20 you know it’s a 1520 million commitment well I saw something uh I saw uh somebody wrote and I don’t know who it was but he said uh it’s Vegas there’s gambling they live they live it you got it they live it I wasn’t me I’m just reporting the news 18 million is what that’s a number between 15 and 20 million so there you go not bad off the top million decision that you’re flipping on that’s what I’m saying like it’s it it’s absurd you you take your decisions too serious there’s 3/4 of a million people watching this thing dude shapes the future of your franch like you you just took a tight end in the first round last year that’s why I say how does the Raiders fan base feel cuz if I heard that come in from the Lions Camp then I’m a little concerned about what’s going on in that world and you said somebody asked that right yeah but in the chat somebody in the chat they said if if if it were Brad Holmes you would feel differently about it no I because I wouldn’t even waste brain power to process that he’s not he’s not gonna and that’s the difference Brad Holmes like there’s a guy that he has isolated a guy he makes a decision on that guy and then he goes and gets him what’s that there wouldn’t be two of his guys there would be one and he would go get them and then we would keep it pushing I won’t even entertain that question I there’s the decision right there every see d k I don’t know BR let’s flip a coin man I can see that’s dumb that’s dumb maybe in the seventh round yeah like not would first round or I’m like I’m trying to like do a show here yeah you’re trying real hard too but I like it you know what I’m saying give him his flowers right de I’m trying to do a show and we’re like What if it was Brad Holmes that flip you guys want to talk about a coin flip and you keep going back to it they keep doing this dmac not me I don’t do it they do it what dmac I got a I’m gon to switch gears for a second that’s another great reason to realize we aren’t the same right because could you say think about the question this was three or four years ago it could have been your organization Absol bunch of the donkeys in charge MH that that made qu Trish was flipping coin Quin Trisha coin maybe that’s what happened with Cuda that’s yeah the OK Cuda pick that was a coin flip we just figured it out dude Justin Herbert or Juda head or tails oh my God that’s what it was uh Woodward Sports Chat thread Drew K let’s talk NHL draft uh dmac NHL draft lottery last night uh Red Wings nailed at 15 15 there you go you had a 99 and a half% chance of being right you were right thank you good job still saying there’s a chance Bud Sam tonight yeah yeah um yeah okay there’s some good Swedish kids well they traded that pick though didn’t let ask easy on heavyweights he’s he’s been the uh Swedish Scout for a while so uh he’s got down on the swedes but there’s this [ __ ] there’s this nigar kid out there that everybody likes and um I don’t know I haven’t talked to drapes but um definitely you know it’s part of Steve eisman’s Arsenal and you know Chris ster this is where he shines so I don’t know what rank he’s in right today watching some summer hockey but you know he is so um there has been a liance topic that’s been going around the network that we’re going to get to coming up in just a couple of minutes but dmac real quick since someone brought up the draft the NHL draft I do want to spin this because the New York Rangers who got to play the Washington Capitals in the playoffs despite the fact that capitals didn’t win as many games as the Red Wings nor did the Islanders but somehow they both got in the playoffs and the Red Wings didn’t but whatever it’s not my system I didn’t come up with it the moral of the story is this dmac the question I have for you the raid I saw a stat like the Raiders have played like or the the Rangers the Rangers have played like 28 playoff games in a row where they’ve allowed three or less goals some kind of crazy number like that yeah H sh stking last night was 29 29 it was let in three or less goals in dmac how far away are we for real to that machine two steps right a one maor shurkin if you watched the game last night you need a onec and a one yeah yeah and and and they development of your younger guys I believe your defenseman are here in your organization where it’s uh Axel Pelin whoever yeah you know over in Sweden needs a couple more years edon’s going to develop I think Johansson’s a good one so I think that and then you you will probably add one in free agency um or trade uh but you’re still three away three Pro probably two three years to to to get to the for where what you saw last night is is New York get to a Next Level because they didn’t have their best game at home in a in an opportunity because people don’t realize unless you’ve been in that situation that you have to put good teams down when you can and home ice is so important right and early on in that game Carolina dominated but shurkin sort of kept them in and even Carolina’s not going to go away they’re going to scratch and claw they got more offense since ad and J kettell than anybody thinks Freddy Freddy Anderson’s uh durable enough and good enough and it’s just they were resilient what what happened last night in that game was discipline and the penalty situation um and whether you like it or not um I thought that they were penalties and and they got called just thought the you know in an opportune time for Carolina a little bit undisciplined but that’s to get to that level because now being up to nothing having to go on the road there’s just a there’s just a little bit more breathing room but they didn’t have their best game and they found a way to win it in overtime at home and and it’s just for a team that hasn’t won a championship these are the the the ways that you can build and you have to build and learn along the way right and in opposite that in the um Colorado Dallas game what you saw was Colorado dig into their Stanley Cup Championship pedigree belt and resiliency and and dive in and and not let that game get out of hand and Dallas like I’d said earlier I think it was more of that fatigue and a lot of it like sometimes the fatigue isn’t like physical but it’s like the mental and coming off the seven game War that they went to with with Vegas um it’s just they can’t they got to put it behind them uh because they can’t let the fact that you’re not supposed to blow three goal leads in the playoffs but momentum it can happen so again I mentioned it earlier so to you know the simple answer is you’re you’re some piece you’re some pieces away right because because then there’s there’s having the team and they’re the toughest pieces because here’s the thing now now if you have the team that you think can win right now they got to go through this journey and you don’t know the bumps and bruis you know along the way but usually you’re going to you’re going to run into something and it’s got to be disappointing usually in the NHL before it before you’re successful you got to go through it through something and along the way um at certain times you have you know the resiliency so you see like you know the Edmonton and stuff and that’s going to be a great Series against Vancouver but they’re drawing on their past failures right about but but they’re not the same team you know uh wward Sports Chat thread because I asked the question and Dave Ben says Neil they traded the first- round pick from B Boston for du brinkin that that was my question because when last I remembered it it was a conditional first round pick so I couldn’t remember if it was theirs and they were taken Boston or if that was vice versa so all right so the word is that the Red Wings will be picking 15 and the Senators will get Boston’s first round pick so there you have that um essentially it was you know to Brink it for kubalik uh Sao and berzi that was essentially the then so that’s that’s how it went down I think that was a I think that was a win right that was a dub I think that was a win okay so there you go keep it pushing everybody but that I I just I asked the question dmac because it seems to me like that is the two toughest pieces to get the oneg and the onec Y magic and the one the oneg realistically has to come first because that well is the first thing that really puts you on that next level you’ve seen it with swan in the playoffs this year he’s been locked down you see it um Demco before he got hurt eigor is just lights out it is and Olinger on the Stars has also been lights out other in the third period yesterday um but I just think that that is just such a key piece because that can carry you through playoff rounds when your team isn’t good like isn’t up to par with those teams go can steal series for you and a team that’s not necessarily ready to take that next step yet in the Wings they could be more ready if the next place they go is to get a oneg yeah but the they’re D you can’t find can’t find him that’s why hopefully right now with what Trey Augustine is doing he are they pot committed with it being kosa if he’s unless unless a you know I think the future is that what you want is it’s Coosa and Augustine you know but how when’s kosa ready will he be ready next year I don’t know right because I would say I think I think it’s the two of them is the future but next year it’s h it’s whoo under contract and lons so so you’re still you know but and and to that point yes and you’ve seen the development all these guys have gone through losing right but also have developed that’s what that’s what you need so it just shows it takes time but intern Justin I would tell you this then though do you think to the Carolina Hurricanes right now because we know what the narrative is going to be when they get bounced where’s the 1C where’s where’s where’s the dynamic where’s the 50 goal Guy where is it I mean that’s definitely a narrative but at the same time they have you know they just picked up KET off and they have pieces that can emulate it in the aggregate but they don’t have the actual dude and that is such a big thing though you see it like McDavid just takes over the game McKinnon took over the game last night those players are so tough to emulate and they only come every once in a while and they’re usually Premier scouted out of wherever they came from whether that’s Juniors or that’s College they are picked they are known they’re scouted and they are put on that trajectory to be that guy like how Bedard was last year I just think that it’s just much they’re much harder to come by unless they unless you they are do one1 no 100% or or or they develop right or you pick one up like Colorado did with ma or you know you find you find them out there um yes you’re right they are they are a dime a dozen but there are some great ones out there but the moral of the story dmac is let’s make no mistakes the Red Wings are still a little ways away from the New York range you know what I’m saying because what what I’m watching with the Rangers watch Florida tonight Florida coming back Florida’s gonna have attitude against Boston tonight don’t get it twisted after you know you can sometimes you’re going to you’re going to be flat you know when you have a little time off and you know Boston did what Dallas almost did right they they just didn’t blow the lead yeah because the Panthers were coming at them in the third period they you saw the Panthers get their legs yeah they were 11 they outshot him 11 nothing in the first 10 minutes of the third period uh let’s go Redwing Sparty I was having fomo in the first round but man watching those games last night makes me realize we wouldn’t stand a chance against these teams in a series right now and and you’re right oh you’re you’re you’re you’re absolutely right and that’s a that’s a great that’s a great takeaway let’s go reving spy because we we were high on the supply absolutely we were we were talking we were talking kind of crazy like oh maybe we could take the Rangers to six maybe we could sneak out the first no bro yeah I was telling my friends I was like I think we could take them to five I don’t think we’re taking them much further but after watching them in the playoffs they are an absolute machine they’re a wagon and they are just so deep and so skilled and even their fourth line is just a physically taxing line with C with rampe on out there just holding it down for them they are just a absolute nightmare to play against in the playoffs no absolutely it’s not a nightmare 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going to be in May absolutely Neil rule Darren mccardy we have kg intern Justin stick on the ones and twos as well if you miss the first hour make sure you subscribe to the Big D energy podcast we talk talk him Detroit City FC US Open cup win at the Houston Dynamo out of the MLS and uh dcfc they beat MLS teams more often than they don’t when they play them so I’m just you know I’m not just telling you what the facts are those are the facts so we will a wait to see what happens tonight uh what’s up next for Detroit City FC in the US Open cup but they will be in the round of 16 and certainly it is getting real one one sec Cory Barry asked because I can’t respond I got this freaking what golf app here trying to get me to download Cory Barry asks wouldn’t I rather spend money on a first line blue liner instead of a perspective 50 goal guy no because I just told you that I believe that that those guys are in your system yeah so you don’t need to go get them you need to go get that 50 goal guy they will be spending money on a first line Blue Line guy very soon yeah his name is Mo moider will be getting his yeah AB absolutely he’s got a buddy his name is [Laughter] Ray They Come Little Ray Little Ray Little Ray Big Mo and Little Ray come to city near you all right um Woodward heavyweights this came up on Woodward heavyweights and it’s kind of swept over the network easy started something man last easy just proved and look shout out Woodward heavyweight VOR raer easy oh yeah 5 to7 Ward Sports electric show the the the clicks the views all of it it tells you guys it it’s a show that captivates people you can’t deny the resume shout out shout out but here’s the deal easy proved who he is easy proved where he lives what he’s about all of it where his allegiances are where his allegiances are what his thoughts are when it’s time to ride the wave right and it’s oh yeah go lions and stuff like Easy’s one way but then when you get pressed on it Easy’s another way he brought up the question if you had to make an all NFC North team yeah who would be qb1 on the all NFC North team I think that that’s no debate exactly no debate whatsoever but I live in common sense I live in the real world how can it be even looking back on last year I don’t know that’s what we’re going to try to drill down on here but easy being on brand easy see like there’s no way easy believes the stuff he says and then that to say that Jordan love would be qb1 on the all NFC North team I would ask based on what ISF um oh you do uh stick has a little video that he wants to play just to back it up let’s run the video and oh yeah oh this and this is stick from yesterday stick had to talk about it so here’s stick talk talking about it yesterday I never thought I’d have to do this um it’s a very important press conference need to address some things going on some things being said and um I I just really need to apologize on behalf of myself and everybody else at Woodward Sports uh for easy not understanding how great Jared golf is I mean at first it was cute right it was like oh he didn’t believe in golf it was cute it was like okay you know this guy doesn’t know Ball but then it was like okay now Go’s performing and he still doesn’t see the light so now it’s like now I’m just confused like does e have just mental problems or is it his pride is it just he doesn’t know Ball even less than I thought he didn’t know Ball but either way I just want to make an apology to all of Detroit and all of the fans of Jared gof uh from behalf of myself stick and Woodward sports for easy and his Lang takes so again and stick that was well said by you I I think it was important for you to separate yourself and the network from such craziness as that so shout out to you for for for doing that but I just and again like we’re we’re going through this right now I missed it I must have missed it dmac kg I must have missed when he was anointed when Jordan love became the chosen one I must have missed when he was second in the league in yardage and fourth in touchdowns again it was after about week nine or 10 where he got anointed wait a sec is this where you tell me flannel said it was JJ McCarthy no uh at least I at least I hope not no I just I want to know for my sake when I missed this because maybe I was asleep maybe I was out of town maybe I had something else going on and and I missed when Jordan love was at the top of the NFL standings for quarterbacks after one of the very best and and I know like look I know that some people around this network that doesn’t fit their narrative so they don’t acknowledge it they can’t they can’t deal in truth yeah so it tells me that people like easy then they’re out because if you’re not in with you’re a golf then you’re not in on this Lions team you’re just not yeah because the only Ticket to Ride is with 16 at the QB spot and that ain’t changing so and and I I don’t know and like the whole the whole henden hooker crowd with apparently that’s what easy is because if if you’re not if you’re not with Goff then that’s your other your only other I I think easy gets caught in one jarro go being a quotequote system QB he always mentions how Jer go needs all this stuff around him in order to perform and I also think he gets caught up in the athletic ability of a Jordan love instead of you know just appreciating what we have there’s different ways to win like I understand Jordan love is like the prototypical quarterback that you would want athleticism and can throw and all that good stuff but I think he gets too caught up in in those two factors and that’s why we got an all NFC North list with Jordan love at the top so he just he just goes for looks then dmac like if if he’s got a crazy personality that’s easy style right there right like that’s I just I can’t relate to the to the kinds of people that that do that like the the whole the whole Jared G versus Jordan love thing is not a debate yeah it’s not a it’s not close show let me know when Jordan Love’s got the resume and it’s off to a nice start I can’t hate I can’t hate on that it’s off to a nice start but DM let me know when he’s been in the league exct let me know when he commands a locker room and and you turn me let me know when he’s won a playoff game well I mean he did they did they went into Dallas against showart is Dallas some people say that that doesn’t count because it was Dallas I do I still count that it was on the road yeah you know so I so I do count that and it’s nice like I said it’s off to a nice start like you’re picking you’re picking him on you think like he’s going to get better and he’s going to get better and then maybe someday we’re having this conversation conversation ain’t now that was the whole thing he’s got to put more like that’s what we can agree with like come on man show some respect in putting more on the plate yeah I like what you’ve done but you can’t supercede goth in this division because you got two rookies and then you have a third guy it’s Blasphemous to do that after one year of Jordan love I understand maybe down the road he might become that but as of right and it took him half the season to even put up the numbers that he ended up putting up he he showed I agree when there’s a point where he seemed to get it but he looked very suspect for a while yeah and here’s the deal dmac and this will override everything because this is what people like easy and the like don’t understand dmac and this is something that that you’ve talked about many many times the locker room because there is no there is no analytic number there is no madeup number uh that that some mathematician came up to rank the locker room it’s the great unknown to people like easy they don’t get that that locker room rides with that guy and dmac you’ve talked about this many many times it goes to show you guys like pan suul uh guys like even Aiden Hutchinson all of it I’m and Ross St Brown he has a command over that locker room that few quarterbacks in the league do yeah so when you watch post game for the Packers if you do or whatever look and see if their quarterbacks are AED like yours is that says something leadership’s a huge thing and then like that’s a lot of thing with respect right there’s a lot of outside disrespect but not inside the organization they hold that man in the highest regard yeah and just to to a dude on every side of the ball oh yeah right listen to the defense speak about him it’s just if you’re doing an all NFC North list if you’re counting last year jarro Go’s at the Top If you’re counting career in totality jarro G is at the top show me the metric yeah I don’t see how Jordan love gets all NFC North n you know on any level and that’s just being real I know yeah that’s what we’re talking about here kg I don’t get it either a question right Neil ask it nationally it’s the same thing golf all day yeah no that’s what I’m saying there are some people that believe that golf is eventually going to regress there’s a lot of people that want Jordan we’re talking right now right we’re saying today yeah but there’s National pundits that want to see Jordan love no I get it can the national ones sit here and say that today it’s not goth he doesn’t deserve that but dmac even in and above all that here’s the deal with me guys when I’m talking about this if you think there’s a question at quarterback then you’re not in on the Lions then they can’t win period into story because you can’t win without a quarterback in this league and if you don’t believe in the quarterback you have then you can’t win then you then you think that they’re flawed and they’re not going to win NE and it’s the same thing as what we were just talking about last segment it’s same thing in hockey unless you have absolute belief as a fan base or a team and your go tender you’re cooked you’re cooked yeah so that’s what it so I just say take that it with the grain of salt when you listen to people speak on the Lions and where they are and stuff like that because you can’t have that both ways this is a quarterback League make no mistake about it and if you don’t have one you’re dead and if you don’t believe if you don’t think that golf is the answer then this franchise isn’t what you what you pretend that they are I guess yeah so that’s up to you though you handle that you do the things you want to do with it I will just sit here and let dmac tell you about dispo absolutely dispo dispensary so many around the state that you can get to don’t forget your CBD products also you can get your Edibles your topicals um sometimes you want to you know use something you don’t need to smoke it you can Vape it you can find a way anyways you need to know where to go to ask these questions right find it out diso dispensary is where to go or go to dispos shops.com when you do tell them Woodward Sports we sent you the most talked about Detroit media by other Detroit media and we love it 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everybody Welcome Back Big D energy Woodward Sports Network Neil rule Darren mccardy kg inter turn Justin and of course we have stick on the ones and the two Ward Sports Chat thread um Justin from North Carolina easy easy talk sports like Drake writes dis tracks now come on I’m not going to have E’s good at what he does every day no he is absolutely he is he’s just a little detached from reality with this one he he’s he’s bought into his narrative so hard that he can’t escape it now yeah you can’t you got to ride with it he’s gonna go down with the ship and his big thing is when golf wins the Super Bowl then he’ll come down off that but you know and I’ll do it with Jordan love is that fair then absolutely is that fair I’ll do I think so I’ll come down off at when Jordan love wins the Super Bowl then is that that fair s fair to me because uh as somebody here in the chat said and I lost it so my apologies I can’t shout you out for it uh jarro go was going to Super Bowls when he was Jordan Love’s age so he’s done it with two different franchises man now we’re talking my language tag team cage match Neel and stick versus flann and easy fight to the death n little that maybe just fight fight we’re special guest referee Dar absolutely pay-per-view Sports I’m going to be your manager I’ll be your manager I got you I’m like Captain Lou albino yeah I love it kg we’ll get we’ll get you out there um but yeah it’s it is it’s it’s one of those things for me where and Cory Barry says golf’s better than love for sure that could change in two to three years but kg sums us up right now yeah kg sums us up perfect ly like he’s been he’s had one good year yeah to to just say I don’t jerro goof is one of the most disrespected athletes I’ve ever seen in sports let alone football especially for the position he plays yeah like it’s it’s insane to me for my expectations it’s still better than everybody else’s yeah still betterbody that’s what matters but but so so we are back like I’m not making putts we’re talking about dmax putting game right now I’m not making put right now wait wait waiting to uh today wa I thought we were playing the gold I was about to say I see the Filman logo it so so I I got hello hello all right we are live what were you cooking Neil you were cooking no I I was uh the chat was cooking too uh Tammy chin said easy pulled the plug he probably did he may have uh let’s go Red Wings party e works at a car dealership Easy’s golf take is like Drake trying to do stuff without ghost rers I think people are being a little extra une easy right now don’t you you think just a little bit no he deserves it he’s he’s gotten a bad faith with the Lions fans he he no yeah I know that we’re like we gra like graphically everything like do we we got a big we need it’s a big Filman logo on the screen we’re audio only right now your AIO all right I like it I like it um but yeah so you know Woodward Sports Chat thread get into that uh hoof hearted Drake ceas and desist hits fast you’re right no it absolutely does Mike G says he needs to work on his putting as well but yeah I guess we’re going old school right now kind of like a radio uh Radio podcast feel to it right now yeah throwback man it is D Andor douch Andor in the morning yeah absolutely um audio podcast Apollo yeah that’s uh that is what we’re doing no but we were were we were just talking about this though like the the the whole golf love thing and I I don’t I don’t understand um Tammy chin we know everybody’s voices so don’t so don’t worry about it I just I don’t understand the disrespect to Jared goth I guess I guess that’s that’s really what it boils down to to me like kg what what do the people like the easys of the world and stuff like that like what is he he just so he’s just got to win a Super Bowl it according to him yeah but that’s it’s such a I don’t want to say lazy but it’s it’s kind of like okay so Joe burrow good or not right we can make that argument with a lot of quarterbacks you know but is he essentially jarro Goff right now Joe burrow yeah yeah he’s gotten there couldn’t get it done is where is Jaylen Herz good or no he’s more injured than gol I know that but yeah Jaylen Herz in the same boat like it it happens Amar Jackson is he jarro goth he might be a little worse basically it’s Patrick Mahomes and that’s it right yeah people just get caught up in the it test people have seen Jared G struggle and just mentally that’s the image in their head that’s what they can’t get out of they just every time they see Jared go they see all the fumbles they see the interceptions you know they see all the the bad play that you know I don’t want to say that got him kicked out of LA but that’s that’s essentially why U McVey made the move to to give R off you know from plays like that but that’s what people got caught up in their heads and I don’t agree with it if you look at everything he’s done for the Lions he’s he’s proven that he can be the quarterback to get you there like he absolutely wasn’t the reason that we failed in the playoffs it was not on him so I like I said after one year of love I just don’t see how you do it uh the real K Colin 77 you cannot say Lamar Jackson is a little worse than gof that’s ridiculous aren’t they basically what this is boiled down to is you win a Super Bowl or you suck right right like let’s cut the [ __ ] Carl cins like that’s that’s that’s where it is like people like easy they they go down their little checklist right they have the well you’re not going to you’re not going to win a playoff game with jarro G and then he goes and wins your two in seven days right and then like you you win your division you wins your two playoff games in seven days like and then then then they just move down to the next talking point on their well you’re not going to win a Super Bowl with jarro gof like you can’t and we yeah yeah who who can you say that about then for real like the quarterback’s in the game today who can you say that about other than Patrick Mahomes so everybody sucks except for Patrick Mahomes pretty much then what are we talking about here you could you could do this all day but yeah it’s just I I don’t get it but like I said people get caught too caught up in the athletic ability yes I said that golf is a little bit better in terms of like success than Lamar Jackson but obviously Lamar Jackson is the better quarterback if we’re talking just the physical standpoint but there’s way more that goes into the quarterback position than that so people we got to we got to stop this man of course has a good team around him if every Super Bowl winner has a good team around their quarterback for the most part like there’s no quarterback that’s done it alone on his own in a vacuum like it just doesn’t happen so of course you want a good team around your quarterback of course you need certain things for your quarterback to succeed like I’m I’m just sick of that narrative oh just just us 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and come back with Neil there you go stick top to bottom got it all covered what you got going going on today DM golf day right it’s golf day got go out got the blues today so I was justn right checking through going to hit uh few putting drills there you go alignment set up so don’t get it messed up your putting game better than everybody else’s though but you know that’s why I like you kg because you’re realistic yeah no I got you back M yeah absolutely uh wibert Sports Chat thread jump into there get your thoughts out there and um Mike G Neil knees would destroy Sam’s knees in an Oklahoma drill I just saw that that would end so badly for Sam flannel can an Oklahoma drill against me man yeah I can see that would in very badly Tigers Guardians coming up at 110 by the way can we get re in a win yes please that man deserves one Siri on the line too mhm it it looks a lot better if they come back and win today this this trip looks a lot better so two and four two and four one and five those are the stakes you got to do what you got do they got to get a win all right I think we’ve done about all the damage we can do from here uh better knees it’s in the Pole right now uh myself or Sam flanel 90 93% in a land Slide 94% the biggest uh is it the biggest it’s up there it’s definitely up there top five no I I think it is that’s a that that is a wrap we’ll right off on that one oh here come flannel 91 to9 now that’s what it is flannel flanel voting right there FL that’s amazing how he can switch accounts so quick to get the extra voting yeah yeah absolutely all right appreciate everybody here at Fel chevet top five movie villains tomorrow top five Wednesdays move to top five Thursday top five movie villains tomorrow for dmac for kg for intern Justin for stick I’m Neil World thanks for tapping in Big D energy well see you later
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You got Mel kiper and all these other guys doing all sorts of mock drafts and analysis and breakdowns of players and team fit and this and that and the Raiders are out here deciding picks on a coin flips 😂