On this episode of That’s Too Bad, Wally talks about the great stories of Bud Cauley and Anthony Kim who both tee it up the same weekend on different tours after long absences from the game. Bring up the potential question and comments revolving Scottie Scheffler after his great win at the Players Championship and if we are seeing the new Tiger Woods dominance. The classic weekend golfer struggles when they don’t see improvement and why. What can we do as weekend golfers to get better at home with our busy lives. Oh and don’t miss out on an awesome conversation with Korn Ferry Tour caddy, JP Burke. JP gives us the insights of what it’s like to be a caddy on the Korn Ferry Tour and what he does to help Austin Hitt to be successful. Hey and always…let’s go low!
That’s Too Bad
Episode 3
March 23, 2024
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powered by Riverside [Music] welcome everybody to another episode of that’s too bad hosted by me Wally Wallis and here we go let’s just dive into it uh we’ve had a lot happen since the last time we’ve chatted um most recently The Players Championship and I what a finish for Scotty sheffler a guy that came from I think he was what four back going into Sunday and he just played phenomenal there’s not no other way to put it uh had competition towards the end I made a huge put on 18 go 20 under for The Players Championship uh which is 20 under for that tournament alone I think speaks volumes and he’s not the only one I mean the field was very competitive uh first time and in a few different weeks here because I think that’s been the biggest complaint as of recently from golf fans and even really the golf world in general you hear a lot of the commentators between the Liv and PGA that the competition on the PGA level is just hasn’t been as great because a lot of the top players are on the live tour uh I think there’s some truth and there’s some not so some accurate comments there uh but we’ll get into that a little bit but anyways so the PLAYERS Championship as we all probably saw but refresher Scotty shuffler is now n the defending champ there uh goes back to back though wins the honor Palmer last week or I guess now a little over a week ago comes in wins the 50th Players Championship in really a great fashion here I was pray hoping for a a three to fourman playoff uh we we had a chance had a Twan Windam Clark on 18 the ball it was about 85% in the cou how that thing popped out for his birdie I don’t know you know works out for Scotty though um this guy’s just been on an unbelievable run ever since the putter change and I don’t know if the the Scruff the beard that he’s growing out is a little bit of a Difference Maker too because here’s the thing Scotty sheffler’s ball striking has just it’s it’s been the same since he’s really been on tour he’s been one of the top ball Strikers on the PGA level and really probably if you put him in the live conversation live too his putting is what separated him as of recently uh not winning as many tournaments but still being in contention and you know going into 2024 he made a putter he made one putter change already goes from I think he was playing from a Scotty Cameron goes to this uh new putter company that I think like Nelly Corda and a few other Pros are going to called Olen played a couple tournaments and I mean he was playing basically the same putter style his classic blade Putter and uh two weeks ago goes to the the Mallet style putter is something that we seen now Rory mroy go to as we all know Rory started his career with the blade Putter and made the transition to the Mallet putter uh a while back now and I mean we would have to look up statistics here but you know Rory’s putting has you know it’s either been red hot or not so much probably why we haven’t really seen him win too many tournaments over the last three four years um but still one of the top players in the world uh Scotty ever since he made this change to the m putter his putting has just been complete 180 he’s out of pace right now in my opinion kind of like an early Tiger Woods he’s almost Untouchable he’s are two tournaments now in 2024 he’s won everybody knows the players is The Unofficial fifth major so here we are he’s he’s won already one of the biggest tournaments of the year right out the gate heading into the Masters at I don’t know how Scotty won’t be everybody’s top pick to win the green jacket but again now you’re going to bring in live guys in a few weeks who are playing Great Golf Brooks capka Dustin Johnson um you know a few others wae Nan is is playing lights out right now has already won a tournament this year on the live tour we’ll see what happens I mean this is what we’re all waiting for right like we were just you know how I just mentioned you know the Golf Community has criticized a lot of these smaller tournaments on the PGA tour because they don’t incorporate everybody on tour which is the live guys um and again I think the you’re splitting hairs here yes I think we all want to see everybody play on the same platform the same tournament at the same time we’re giving opportunities to other golf ERS from the corn faery and and other smaller tours you know make you know give them a chance but realistically let’s be serious we want to see Brooks kka Dustin Johnson Patrick Reed and so forth go up against Tiger Woods Scotty Sheffer Jordan spe Justin Thomas Etc we we at the end of the day we we all want them on one tournament one tour I I again think we’re going towards that I think PGA this week was meeting with uh piff which is the investment company for live golf uh I don’t know what how that will turn out because I think there’s still a lot of animosity towards Jay Mahan and the back and forth like stuff that’s going on with him and the PGA Tour and trying to get a deal going and eventually get these lived guys back and the PGA guys all meshed into one there’s so many Logistics that have to occur that does this happen this year I don’t know I don’t think so do we take a step forward towards that yes ultimately you know this is what these players want I they want more security and the money they want more money and I think some of these bigger players want to play less tournaments this is is going to factor into FedEx points though and you know different things I mean we’ve already seen how the golf rankings the owgr rankings are I mean realistically skewed because the live guys drop significantly because they claim that their tournaments they cannot calculate to accurately rank them I think realistically we can all we all know where they fall in uh but anyways I so going back to Scotty shuffler he’s one of the hottest golfers right now and he’s been one of the highest golfers over what the last few years and this putter change though I think has really been a huge difference maker uh and for the rest of the golf uh community and the PJ tour that has to go up against to week in and week out uh you know good luck uh he that now now that he’s got the putting figured out what’s going to stop him I we just saw the players this past weekend you know he strained his neck shoulder area where in between holes he was letting Ricky fer and whoever else in his group go ahead of him and play essentially ready golf or just next up in in the order so he can use that availability to get worked on by you know massage physical therapist whatever it was on his I mean every swing you could tell he was cringy but yet guy was Miss wasn’t missing a fairway was you know throwing darts with his wedges out of the bunker was was solid even a hurt Scotty shuffler is dangerous and this is very oddly similar to an early Tiger Woods there was no stopping Tiger Woods back in the early 2000s and the late 90s when he figured it out and got it going and when tiger got it going I mean we saw him win major after major after major will Scotty be that next Tiger Woods I think we thought Anthony Kim and then Rory mroy were going to be the next Tiger Woods and well we all know Anthony Kim fell off the face of the Earth after about 2012 and Rory’s you know after that fourth major he just hasn’t been hasn’t been able to do it uh has has been able to complete the the career gr Grand Slam by winning the Masters the one major he’s missing off his resume and all the other Majors you know he has struggled last year in the Masters I I don’t I don’t think he made the cut have to look back but regardless Ian this guy is number two number three in the world and the last tournament I think that I remember him winning was the Scottish open last year usually the tournament right before the open uh so I think Rory still has a long way to go I think it’s frustrating him that he’s not winning Majors I think we if you watch season two of that uh full swing it’s well documented that uh especially last year when Brooks kekka comes out and won his fifth major now as he mentioned there’s guys in his General age bracket or you know even you know younger are surpassing him and that wins four majors and and it’s starting to bother him so I think Rory is still I mean again guy is still hitting bombs with the driver I mean his length off the T three- wooden driver even his IRS he’s always he’s still a great wedge player like I said the putting is either it’s there or it’s not for him for over the last couple years and I think that’s the biggest Difference Maker what changes does he have to make I’m not really sure uh but he’s got to make something he’s got to he’s got to change something up because what he’s been doing so far clearly he’s making money endorsements and finishing in the top 20 top 15 top 10 but he’s not doing enough or he’s making critical mistakes down the line to cause him not to win that that next major so we’ll see what happens with him but right now I think I would be more fearful if I’m on the PJ tour what Scotty shuffler is GNA do I mean here’s the thing he’s uh exped to be a a firsttime dad here I think in a a month or two uh you know so that awesome for him I’m you know he’s going to probably take time off I imagine being being a firsttime dad if I’m on the PGA tour take advantage of that time off because once he comes back I I mean I’m sure he’s going to be practicing as much as he’s you know able to with the newborn uh would no but you know we’ll see you know I imagine he’s going to figure it out and stay ready because once he is ready to make that return and play at his that next tournament after winning his first or after having his first kid uh I’m sure he’s gonna come and play lights out like like he normally does so so yeah so but let I want to switch gears here a little bit you know uh few weeks ago not really a few weeks ago uh we we’ve seen two big returns in professional golf last time we talked I I I’ve talked about Anthony Kim briefly and it probably wasn’t briefly but um and I won’t talk about it too much I only got a little bit to talk about uh about him but I think one that kind of flew under the radar because it was really about the same same time Anthony Kim makes his debut at the Liv tour was uh Bud colie on the PGA tour now I remember him earlier like five six years ago I don’t recall really remembering his like how he did how he played and all that but something that I did not know when watching it was the Waste Management Open was the comment that this was his return to golf in five years so away I had to look that up what why did he disappear for five years did he lose his card was he just not playing well so basically what I ended up finding out so for people that don’t know this guy suffered a traumatic uh leg injury in a car accident back in 2018 in Ohio I’m looking down right now my notes here because I want to make sure I get everything right here um suffered five broken ribs broken leg and had a collapse lung um comment from his from himself and his dad back then was he was lucky to be alive uh Apparently after he had surgery um he suffered different infections from his colon fluid build up uh on the side of his chest and rib cage uh they tried removing I guess excuse me a bunch of a plate or two from the initial surgery but uh eventually they they weren’t able to remove it cuz bones and stuff had grown over the plate and basically he attempted to make different returns he practicing not not really reinjured himself but he just he prolonged it because again uh stitches and stuff were were ripping and he just wasn’t the body just wasn’t healing because I think he was itching to get back out in golf so he really had to take time off completely to fully heal well now fast forward 5 years I mean it’s not not a year not five months not even two years this guy had sat out for professional golf for five years uh debuted essentially this year at the Phoenix Open uh finished 65th made the cut I so you’re playing in your first term in 5 years make the cut and uh it’s a chaotic scene for not just the golfers but anybody so to make your debut at one of the most chaotic tournaments ever make the cut finish the you know top 65 I would say that’s one of the biggest accomplishments he’s going to have in his career not a major not the access millions of dollars that he’s going to accumulate returning from a traumatic uh car accident being able to play professional golf again something he obviously truly loves to do is going to be the biggest accomplishment for my opinion I I would I would think that’s a huge accomplishment and then recently played in the cogin cognizant trying to say that right trying to say that fast too uh classic and and uh again made the cut finish in the top 20 I think or I’m sorry top 25 finished 21st so I mean just overall I mean that that’s an incredible story that I think again kind of flew under the radar unless you watched uh the waste management of cognizant um tournaments on TV because I know they did briefly mention it and like myself and I’m sure other Avid golf fans had to go back and and look up what H you know what why was Bud colie uh out of golf for the last five years uh so it’s it’s great seeing him back on tour uh hopefully this year we see more success uh top 15s top 10 and and maybe a win here that guy has a lot of talent and now that he’s healthy he without that rehab and surgeries he had to endure it’s great to see him his story back on tour competing again and like I said I think this was overshadowed by now here we go on the live tour side and Anthony Kim makes his debut same weekend same general week weekend and here’s the thing I think people expected Anthony Kim to come out and win the jeda the tournament he debuted in I think if you thought he was going to win uh any type of professional golf tournament after 12 years of not just playing hasn’t owned his own set of clubs in 12 I I mean the stuff that’s coming out as of recently about him is pretty wild I mean right now he’s playing with just stock clubs in a putter nothing that he’s been fitted for so I mean it leads you to wonder what happened to the clubs that he used to play back in the late 2000s with I mean again I think those were titles or Nike clubs because he was a big Nike Guy and um it it really is wild for a guy to for us average golfers that’s what we do we go to the PGA store we go to Golf Galaxy we go to our local Pro Shops and we go find some [ __ ] on the on the Shelf because we saw so and so on Sunday in the PGA or any type of tournament use a variation of this club and go spend $3 $400 or thousands of dollars if you’re doing the whole set to have that in our bag and play like maybe [ __ ] the next day and Anthony Kim is a professional golfer on the live tour and essentially did the same thing he went and got stock clubs was not fitted for him or anything and here he is playing in professional tournaments so I mean it’s it’s a wild story uh but here’s the other thing I think again he got ripped to shreds you know on how he played in the first you know again LIF tours three three-day tournaments I think he kind of got ripped to shreds on you know his ball striking and putting and stuff listen you take 12 years off of golf don’t touch a club you don’t practice nothing and go play a round to golf after that his first tournament at the Jetta shooting 76 all three days I mean I would take that I thought that was pretty impressive yes he did some stuff that is not good he had a couple Shanks he was wild off the tea with the driver he had hard time with the speeds of the greens with chipping and even his putting but there were glimpses of you know that we’re going to move in the right direction with ball striking and the swing looks exactly the same as it did 12 13 15 years ago when he first got got on tour um so there’s I mean it’s just going to be a slow progress now he just recently played in Hong Kong which I think was a week or two after and he ended up playing the last day I think was it 67 or something like that he ended up playing very well uh I think he had about five five birdies maybe one bogey lot of pars he is progressing a lot quicker than a lot people I think now we’re anticipating after the Jetta I think after the Jetta everybody’s like oh here we go finish last place whatever this gu washed up why did he come back blah blah blah uh if you thought that you you’re I didn’t see a washed up golfer I saw a guy that was happy to be back out there he was walking around with his Cy he looks like a casual Sunday golfer Polo’s untuck he’s not wearing the famous big AK Buckle um on his belt I don’t think he wore a belt at all to be honest with you that we’ve known him to do when he was younger and he was you know talking up with the cad he just walking it looked like he was just enjoying around to go go to be honest with you and maybe he was I think we’re going to see a lighter side to the Anthony Kim versus back 15 years ago the guy that had all this fire uh inside to take down everybody around him now he did come out and say that he was gonna whoop a lot of asses this on the live tour so I think the competitive spirit’s still there but I think you know he knows that this is going to take some time and I think he’s moving in the right direction so you know he’s now going to play in the states coming up here for the first time in 12 plus years so this will be interesting to see again how he continues to progress this year in the LIF tour he looks healthy and the you know he’s got the long hair he got the full sleeve tattoo uh he he again I I I’m excited to see what’s going to happen for him in uh this year on the not just the live tour but in golf in general you know just played and I think in a Asian or DP not the DP it might have been an Asian Tour event recently didn’t make the cut but again he he’s playing a lot of golf now he’s wanting to and for all the AK fans out there that have been wanting this for 12 years this is exactly what we wanted this is what we like to see him not being down on himself after finishing last place in a tournament uh with a lot of the top golfers in the world you know he came back out the next week flew to Hong Kong and played in another tournament then played in another tournament and we hope to continue to see that tread for him so it’s good to see him again uh good to see both Bud collie and Anthony Kim back playing professional golf at a competitive level and expect big things for them this year um so uh should in a little gears here I mean we’re going to stay on topic here a little bit with about the PJ and live I know we’re beating this like a dead horse and the media and everybody else does as well when you turn on the Golf Channel and all that so I’m not going to talk about this this topic too much here but it’s Paul ainger a few weeks back made a comment and I’m reading it off my screen here directly because I don’t want to misquote it he wrote or he said and I quote the best players aren’t all playing PJ Tour tournaments that’s over he continues to say let’s just say it like this the PGA Tour has fast become the qualifier for live and it’s a sad day for golf end quote uh how do I react to a comment like this I don’t think he’s necessarily wrong I think he’s a little drastic with this comment yeah there’s a lot of guys that have gone from the PJ tour to the live tour and you know it’s one of these things where it’s like do you blame these guys they’re getting paid guaranteed money up front they’re playing less tournaments I it’s the same [ __ ] we talk about that I’ve talked about on the first episode I think even my second episode so the same [ __ ] different different month different week that of I’m recording and same with the media it’s these you can’t blame these guys for taking an opportunity that was given to them they took guaranteed money up front Okay Financial stability in this world and this economy we’re in especially if you’re in America we need it uh even though you’re making millions of dollars on PGA Tour but again you’re not guaranteed if you don’t make cuts and like for like guys you know and their last year in the tour like Brooks kco who was hurt he was struggling to make cuts and if you’re a golfer that doesn’t have endorsements locked down to help you you really pay for your bills and your lifestyle which not every golfer is lucky to have be like Tiger Woods and Roy maoy and Phil Mickelson and John ROM and so forth It’s what do you do Greg Norman created an opportunity for a tour with an investment group and you know these select golfers took advantage of it is it right is it wrong I’m not gonna answer that I I don’t have something I’m not gonna talk here about that today just in relation to Paul aen Gear’s comment though yeah I mean yeah we’re seeing more guys see what’s going on over at live the dynamic the more freedom and now when I say freedom it I’m talking about like they have more time for family and relaxing and Rehab whatever else is going on in their life and I think it’s very appealing more and more each day to to Golfers on the PJ tour I don’t think it’s I think everybody’s uh loving it which is why we’re not seeing everybody go over but I think more and more we’re seeing more guys on the PJ go I wonder if I can get over this there so again this is where I’m like this could be a little bit of a dramatic drastic comment but I at the same time I don’t think he’s completely wrong because again a lot of the top golfers from the PGA have left to go to live and that’s you know Dustin Johnson Patrick Reed uh Brooks Capco throw and Phil Mickelson I guess in there I mean because he did win US Open couple years ago I think it was the US Open um and wae nean and so many other guys I mean really the live tour is is full of all stars and PJ still has very qualified great golfers Rory JT Jordan Speed and so forth uh I just think uh there’s been a lot of inconsistency from those select guys so now it looks it makes the live guys really shine so you know that that’s that’s really all I want to say on this matter um if anybody wants to message me uh DM me whatever uh with their comments their thoughts and you know let’s have not an argument but let’s have a conversation about it hit me up on on my social medias here Twitter or X whatever it’s called nowadays Instagram and uh Tik Tok and all this stuff and and and you know let’s talk about it cuz I I’m curious what other people are thinking when Paul ainger makes comments like this I’m curious what everybody out there is thinking uh as we continue in this PGA versus live life that we’re in I mean this is now our third year third season into this and even though we’re trying to move towards the dynamic of merging I’m just curious what everybody out there is thinking you know their thought process and so forth um so okay so I’ve talked about on the first episode here that I want this to be also a podcast for amateur golfers again I’m not a qualified to tell people what they’re doing wrong how they’re doing it wrong because I still have a lot of issues that I’m working through in my own golf swing in my own golf game and I’m hoping to improve this year too I’m trying to go from a four handicap I’m a 4.1 right now I’m trying to get down to a one to two it’s going to be Leaps and Bounds for me this year and I’m putting in the work at the range lessons hopefully I can can get to that um just continuous drills and different things that I’m working on um but as amateur golfers and our classic weekend Saturday for the boy Sunday for the boy golfers whatever you want to [ __ ] call it um you hear the the same [ __ ] weekend and week out uh you know oh like the guy that can’t break 80 oh my God shot 80 on the dot shot 80 to another 85 you know the guys that come continues to complain and are expecting by the next weekend when they go play something to miraculously happen I’ve always laughed because it’s like because then the next round happens oh shot 82 again can’t break 80 what’ you do between now and the last time you you shot 82 and you didn’t break 80 oh I went to the driving range and I hit driver hit four iron some guys don’t even go to the range I get it everybody’s busy work family different things are going on you want to you know do different things what hey I’m the same way I’m not here to to criticize I I’m just saying like as amateur golfers let’s let’s be realistic let’s not um not be so hard on ourselves when stuff does doesn’t change right away I think the moment we buy a new club or they someone looks up on YouTube how like Phil Mickelson hits this wedge shot this flop shot so I’m gonna do it I think when it doesn’t work out or they think hey they know how to do this the score is going to drop five to 10 Strokes it don’t happen like that I mean it’s just um how do we get better as amateur golfers I we got to take advantage of the stuff that’s around us like even around our house I mean just going in our backyard with our wedge a simple drill is just putting a hula hoop or a piece of string and making a circle if you got it we got rope string something bungee cords at our house I’m almost positive 99.9% of us go take a bunch of them make a circle in your backyard front yard wherever on the side of your house where there’s grass and just take a few different golf balls or take however many golf balls you got and take your wedge and start out with five yards back it up to 10 yards and get as many golf balls in that Circle as possible no it’s not up green so you’re not going to see the ball Spin and maybe check or anything like but as amateur golfers you’re not trying to do that right now uh again it’s just taking advantage of the stuff that’s around us uh you know even just simply going and taking a club taking your phone camera and just looking at your swing and looking to see where your hands are going are you going more up are you going all the way back and kind of swooping scooping you know stuff that I’ve also struggled with scooping because your wrists are getting underneath and stuff like that it just if we’re not going to go to the driving range to practice because people think practice isn’t going to do much I’m going to get better at the course yes and no you’re going to get better I think in different scenarios but as far as ball striking and chipping and stuff like that I know you don’t I don’t think you progressively get better on a course that way that happens on the Range you’re going to work on hand positions on your club and stuff like that you’re doing that on the Range trying to change stuff on the course has just does not work and I don’t even I mean Watch professional golf when stuff’s not working they’re not necessarily I think trying to make changes for the rest of their career on that course right now they might be trying to change a little bit of something now again because they’re professionals they might know what they need to change but as amateurs that’s something that I think we we see and struggle with is something doesn’t work out while we’re in the middle of our round and initially they’re going to say oh I think I know what it is do we though uh again I’m I mean I’m a big I’m I’m very big on getting lessons or going to the driving range again I’m a big practice guy I try to go to the range as much as possible work on different things again not everybody has that kind of time uh uh and I can sympathize but again I think there’s things you like I said you could do around your house that can help get better form that muscle memory driving your hands forward and stuff like that where you don’t necessarily have to go hit a golf ball you could just continuously do stuff in your backyard it’s getting nicer outside in the midwest where I’m where I’m living go I’ll go I mean my backyard is three feet wide and 20 feet long or something like that I I go out and I just swing my club and just rip up my grass because what do I care my dog’s already ripping up my grass playing Fetch with him so I just continue to make divots where I’m at and just graze grass with uh my wedges when sometimes I’ll go out there and I’ll just kind of do like little little chip shots to see how close I can get to the fire pit it just different things will eventually build the success on the golf course and again you we need to be realistic we’re we’re trying to knock KN off a couple Strokes at a time we’re not trying to knock off 10 and uh and it’s just understanding again the the course management I think you know I’ve mentioned this before in the first episode it’s understanding situations that you’re in on the golf course if you’re under a tree you know or is it worth trying to go for a green and two when you can punch one up there closer get a nice wedge in and get it close to enough to where you can you have a very good chance of getting a birdie versus you know potentially slicing your 3-wood or hooking it or topping it which is very common because I think people think your three-wood is like a driver where you got to help it up and scoop it up but it’s really it’s like an iron you got to compound it and compress it through into the grass and let the club then do the work for you get it up in the air and stuff um so yeah I just like little things here uh again I’m not a professional I’m not a certified PGA coach or any of the sorts uh so take my words of wisdom if you want to call like that with a grain of salt again I I have a lot of stuff I’m working through right now if you’re interested I’m going to post later this week my latest driving range session uh where I use my rap sto uh device whatever you want to call it uh launch monitor and um that’s where I have a bunch of videos to show that I’m struggling right now with my with my right heel I rotate a lot on my right heel heel because my hips kind of stall out and which causes then my hands to kind of scoop so I’ve been really working on trying to drive the hands get the hips to roll over and rotate on my and pivot on my right foot on the balls of my feet and my toes not my heel so again I mean as a guy who’s a 4.1 handicap I still have a lot of [ __ ] I got to work through I still I’m working on also still adjusting with wedges dialing those in from different yardages and I mean a couple years ago I I thought my putting was very good uh last year my putting I think was so so and so now I really want to get dial in my putting and when I go to the driving range especially in the summertime I break it out into two segments because I’ll be there from like between an hour and a half to two hours first hour or so I’m hitting golf balls and I adopted something from full swing that I learned from Matthew Fitzpatrick when if you watch the episode he’s talking to his brother about going to the range and not hitting every Club in your bag because it’s not need because you’re not gonna necessarily learn and get that stuff dialed in hitting 14 club or 13 clubs well some guys might even have 17 18 20 clubs depending on you know type of golfer you are and uh he recommended his brother you know one day why don’t you hit odd numbers and then the next day you hit even so that’s what I I kind of started doing last year and I kind of liked it because I can really then spend more time on those clubs with the range balls that I get and just build the more consistency with with those clubs you know going from a 9 to seven to a five to my three iron and then I’ll hit three-wood and driver but I won’t hit as much because I know I’m going to hit him again probably in a day or two when I want to go hit eight six four iron and then I always hit the wedges uh no matter what I hit full wedges and then I’ll hit like little bumping runs and stock you know little chippy wedges uh you know local ranges always have the buckets the Nets and stuff so I’m always trying to hit different Nets and whatever and then I go to the putting green or the chipping green and I’ll spend the next 45 minutes to an hour over there I’ll do different chips different scenarios trying to go over a bunker close far I’ll try to hit different ones up in the air to get them to stop and just plop I’ll try to hit low Spinners and then I’m working on putting uphill downhill left and right breaks all that stuff again my my way of practicing is not going to be something that’s um appealing to a lot of other people or want to put that kind of time in I get it that’s just me I I like to practice and I like then to have my practice show on the course uh again I people can mayay me can critique me and say you’re spending too much time practicing it could be possibly true I could probably spend less time I don’t know it’s just something I like to do though but I I digress well I want to also just mention here that we got another good segment here coming up uh on this episode here I have now JP Burke corn fairy caddy joining me here uh so he’s going to here talk about we’re just talk about different things going on with him what it’s like to be a caddy on the corn fairy tour and you know what we what he expects between him and who he’s cading for this year and expectations for moving forward years from now and stuff like that and they’re they’re drive to you know bigger and better things in in the golf professional World here so enjoy this segment with JP [Music] Burke all right we got uh JP Burke over here uh first time uh hosting a caddy on on the podcast here JP thanks for uh joining the show and uh how are we doing doing thank you for having me um yeah I’m happy to be here uh so I for people that don’t know I mean obviously I just mentioned your caddy uh but you know for the listeners you know just a little brief intro on who JP the caddy is right now uh sure yeah JP the caddy um this is his first time my first season doing it full-time um I had been C for the guy I’m catting for now Austin hit just once a year for the past two seasons when he was on Latin America Tour which is now PJ tour Americas um but I was working different jobs I was working in software and then Property Management so I’d have one week off go uh we at first went to guar in Mexico with him and the next time it was Bogata and both those events we came in second um so by the end of the second season he had on Latin America Tour and it turned you know because he got promoted to the corn Fair tour yeah like I mean I I was telling him because at that point I wasn’t liking my job um and I was telling I was like hey I’d like to officially throw my name in the Hat uh to be your full-time caddy and that was all it took he he’s a my childhood best friend so you you know we I’ve played all different types of sports with them so um just from a teammates perspective and and a friend’s perspective I know i’ would be a really good friend and teammate to him um so the caddy thing kind of comes naturally wow that that’s sweet um yeah I mean I guess that kind of answers what you know my next question was G how did you become not only you know his caddy but a caddy in general uh it’s a sweet story um you know I don’t know if you’ve uh watched you know the documentary on Netflix everybody you know loving the the full swing and you we get to see the relationship the caddy relationship between Gino and Joel David so I gotta ask is is that that caddy relationship very common not only with you and you know who you’re catting for but with the other Cades that you kind of get to mingle with and you get to see on the corn fairy tour in other tournaments is that is that kind of how how it is for a lot of them oh yeah I mean there’s a wide range of varieties of different CAD just like there’s different types of players um so you know there’s golf genius Cades that their job is to know um you know every single shot every single read of every Putt and that’s what they’re there to do and and then there are just best friends that are out there and that don’t know anything about Golf and then there’s everything in between it really does matter just what the player needs and wants um so like Gino for Joel he’s he’s a funloving guy obviously knows a lot about the game of golf he’s been doing it with Joel for a while but you know at the end of the day he creates an environment that is fun not just for one week but for a whole season which is Big it’s like you can’t just say the same jokes every week or uh you know have a lot of energy one week and then have zero energy another week yeah you know you gotta keep that Flatline of you’re genuinely excited to be there but it’s not like you’re bouncing off the walls it’s like yeah you’re showing your player you want to be there you show up on time um you know all the little things are done correctly you know obviously their clubs are always clean uh they always have water in the bag you know ready for need it the towels always wet on one side dry on another um and then slowly but surely you know you can help the player out a little bit but players these days are you know they’re so smart and just have so much data at their disposal with you know lasers and 18 birdies or like the GPS show you like you know you can look at any any course before you even step foot there so it’s like more and more Caddy’s job is just to create an environment week after week that puts a player in the best dat of month didn’t allow comp his best so yeah it depends what the player is my player Austin he is an extremely smart and cerebral player um so even if I was a smartest caddy out there he wouldn’t be conferring with the caddy too much because his head if he brings another person’s input in all of a sudden if it’s not exactly with what he’s thinking uh oh now there’s two conflicting thoughts so he likes to put it all on himself and then I’m I’m literally there as like the guy on the basketball bench like getting hype for hism like like L keep the Good Vibes getting conversation going with the other golfers and other caddies in our group to maintain just that like ah this is just a group of dudes playing some some golf on the weekend um and kind of Pop the pressure of you know this is a high stakes tournament yeah I mean you bring up a interesting and good point because I think uh we see it now especially a lot in in golf you know we’re watching on TV the different levels and I think it’s compared to I would assume probably what like early 2000s and probably even before that golf was like where caddies were I think more reli or Dependable as far as like the yardages and different things where now the players have kind of really owned that portion of it it seems like I mean you you see and hear the conversations now with all the technology that we have with all these different microphones at tournaments when you’re watching them on TV and uh I the players knowledge and the stuff they’re spe and out I mean sometimes goes over my head what they’re talking about yeah where where I’m like no it looks like it’s just a simple 100 yards we got to clear 90 10 m per hour wi right to left what else but you know then they start breaking down the grain of the grass the type of grass you know it’s it’s it’s wild that the thought process that’s a lot of the golfers in this modern era uh have where I you know that’s where I was curious like as a cadd is that you know we’ve gone from like the old school like fluff and even bones maai who I’m sure those guys are known for helping with the yardages and they’re pacing stuff off and they’re looking at the wind and the grass and now there’s like players that are like similar to like brys and D Shambo they’re the ones going to tell the caddy what they see and you know I’m guessing the caddies you know are I mean unless it’s what in your perspective unless you think it’s completely dead wrong is that when you would jump in and say hey this is what I’m thinking versus versus trying to like you know always disagree with their mindset you know go along with it unless you just think it’s completely not in the in the deck of cards there um it’s a good question it’s a little more nuanced than that it’s the decisions always golfers and a confident decision by the golfer is always going to be a better decision even if it’s wrong as long as it’s confident he’s probably gonna hit the ball better then has the right answer but he’s not fully confident on it or yeah he felt like he made the wrong readed so our job really is CAD like um drawing a blank on Scotty sheffler is cat’s name um D dra a blank but he’s been a caddy for over 20 plus years and if you watch him he does a great job of making it seem so simple he just he provides Scotty with all the data necessary Scotty to make the decision um so that’s kind of what we’re there to do it’s it’s not that I would ever tell Austin uh you know no I don’t agree with you on this shot it’s more if he is saying I think might go with this club and there is some any sort of disagreeing on it instead of saying oh I think this way it’s more of like a reminder that you know the wind is is picking up we’re kind of hidden by the trees right now to be as active above the trees let him have that reminder of what’s going on but if he goes no no no I like seven here boom that’s the right answer it’s like just just making sure he has all of the data in order to make a confident decision and if he makes a confident decision that’s better than a non-confident correct decision every time so yeah it’s it’s weird it’s like you you never want it to be you never want to give your your player at now I don’t think that’s right it’s more here’s here’s an additional piece of information to maybe you change your mind a little bit but hey if that’s your if that’s your choice let’s go with it that’s right yeah almost like the equivalent of like back in school like the teacher is going to keep giving you different hints but they want you to ultimately get to the answer yourself so I mean I guess that’s that’s kind of what you’re as a caddy you’re just going to continue giving the facts and you know you’re not convincing them to go in One Direction or to choose choose a certain Club you just hey I’m going to provide you all the facts that I see right now in front of us and basically give them that tool to hey make the decision stay confident with the decision and let’s get it on the green here exactly now and and I can call a spade a spade like if Austin is standing over a shot and I’m watching his pre-shot routine and he’s already gone through it three times more than the regulars one time through he’s obviously not very confident shot or he’s thinking a little bit too much on it so then in that moment you can say hey let’s talk about you know let’s stop off let’s step off the ball I don’t know you’re not really convinced me that this is the right shot like just giving that like hey I’m noticing you’re you’re not full sending the shot so let’s you take a step off and talk about yeah I’m gonna say thing that he doesn’t know but talking about it getting the thoughts out of his head so we can get a clear-headed golf s yeah and so I guess I’m also curious because you know I think you see in like similar in your situation you and Austin versus a lot of the other caddy golfer relationships a lot of these guys have known each other for a long time since they were kids and stuff like that and you kind of really see I mean it definitely shows especially when you’re watching you know on the PGA tour those certain relationships and I think what’s kind of funny and cool at the same time it’s like when something doesn’t go right you can kind of maybe I don’t know maybe at that exact moment but later on you can kind of laugh about it I guess one instant that really pops up my mind is um I I don’t know how long this may be what 3 four five years ago I think it was at East Lake was when Paul Casey on 18 was thought he got a four iron in his hand from his caddy but gave him a three iron flushed it and went flying over the green and the Caddy’s reaction was hilarious I forget his name um but I know he’s been with Paul casy for a long time and his reaction was priceless because he looked like he just had like the fear of God oh my I’m gonna get fired and Paul’s reaction was he just started laughing so I think it’s kind of cool seeing that relationship so I guess my question for you in Austin’s relationship you guys have known each other for a long time do you guys have those kind of moments where you guys something doesn’t go right you could kind of go yeah that that that was probably not great and maybe laugh about it maybe later maybe later in the day not maybe maybe not in the round but maybe later that day over a couple drinks or something um maybe later in the day for sure sure after the tournament has ended um like there’s he’s like while you’re still in the tournament you uh you know each day you feel a little bit of the pain from each tiny mistake um but I mean his biggest blow up that I have uh seen while on the back for him he was not laughing about at the end of the tournament but we have laughed about it multiple times uh since the inclusion of the tournament um so yeah it’s it’s a there’s definitely maybe a 72 hour weight period before you can make a joke about but then after you get past 72 hours everything’s open game there sounds good um as a you know we see through a lot of social media YouTube and now even like on TV and stuff especially with like the Netflix series we we get to see the golfers like what goes on before they get to the first te how they warm up even just like signing in and stuff something I think we don’t ever get to really see is what are the candies doing in preparation while the golfers are warming up and stuff so I’m curious like it maybe just maybe yours is different than other CS but what what is JP doing during the warm-up process with Austin without him uh leading up to that first te yeah that’s a great question um I would I would think my process is pretty similar than uh than the rest of the caddies but um it starts with either the night before or the morning of um I check corn fairy tour Communications on Twitter and they came out with the pin locations for that day um so I will draw them out in my yardage book um like on the actual greens themselves just so we can visualize where they are on that green and we don’t talk about but just so I have ready um and I then in the morning do the wind report so starting from our tea time to five hours passed make sure we have the wind uh dialed in for the day um I then write down our tea time what tea we’re starting at and who we’re playing with um so that’s all the the front of my yard book then once we actually get to uh the event we always get there about an hour and a half before tea time so that we have 30 40 minutes of eating and you know doing whatever we need to do before actually swinging the club so whether he’s warming up he’s a restroom whatever we got to do so that right about 55 50 minutes before tea time he start put um so in that time I am starting to dry the eat all the grips because in the morning there’s condensation so drying all the grips of the clubs um using my brush to get through all the grooves of of the clubs make sure the faces are clean um once he’s done putting get to the uh driving range he starts shooting his shots um at as he’s working through each of the clubs I’m collecting five to six perfectly unscratched balls um out of the out of all the range buckets and keep them dry so that when he starts to hit his driver he has a dry ball so doesn’t just slide off the face and has no scratches on it there’s no RIS of him breaking his driver for the round starts um but uh most days he’s plugged in like he he doesn’t like to talk too much before the round he likes his like quiet time um so I’m making sure he’s drinking water throughout the whole time I got my sunscreen on before the round starts and honestly I I try to make it a point that I’m chatting it up with at least one other caddy or player beforehand just to like it sounds lame but Get Loose Myself in terms of conversation because that’s what I kind of during the round is a fun relaxed golf environment so um yeah it’s that’s that’s what I do every time um most caddies do a pretty similar uh setup but doing all that especially stuff the night before allows me just be relaxed and enjoy the morning as opposed to trying to make pin locations as he’s warming out freaking out catch up on my work getting that all done four so that I can really enjoy the morning and show I’m prepared confident and like let’s go have a fun day as opposed to oh I got I gotta get this I gotta get this gota get this done like Yeah The Players the players are like dogs like you know like a dog sees someone who’s nervous or scared like they start showing their teeth and they start players can see that with their caddies it’s like it’s so it sounds crazy like I try to be as cool C collected as like be pre- social because it shows other players it’s like okay cool that’s my g i he’s ready to rock yeah yeah if he sees you’re nervous then he he might start wondering why why why is my C he get neur nervous now I’m starting to get nous this guy’s supposed to be me confident why is he nervous yeah yeah is uh so I guess so I mean you said Austin’s pretty reserved and quiet while he’s warming up getting ready for the round is it different when we’re on the course and I and I know that’s a loaded question because I’m sure it’s going to depend on how well or not well he’s playing so I guess let’s let’s do the let’s do the latter he’s he’s playing well are we is he type the guy that’s going to you know chat it up with who you guys are playing with that day or chat it up just with you or is he still pretty Reserve as a golfer you know because I know there’s golfers out there when they’re playing well they really like to maybe not entirely zone out everything and everybody but you know a block out a lot of it because I’m I’m playing well and I know we got other golfers that they start playing well so they’re pretty loose out there they want to have fun because they know they’re playing well so just as a curiosity question what what’s uh what’s Austin like uh he’s pretty consistent once the round starts he he is a social golfer um you know right before the T like on the first T box introduces himself to other players in caddies um you know we’ll crack a couple jokes there just to establish a you know hey but you know I’m open to talking this round and then right off the bat he hits his shot and we’re walking to our next shot in the Fairway and he’s asking the golfer where he’s based out of you know how long You’ been on tour like he he really does enjoy keeping a social round um not overly social you know like a conversation every other hole but it really does loosen us up like just H interacting with everyone else in your crew in your group that day it uh it it creates an environment like you’re literally just Saturdays with boys like hanging out yeah so yeah try try to create that yeah does he uh I know it you hear stories about golfers pulling some pranks on their Cades has he pulled any pranks on you loaded the golf bag up with some uh extra weights there anything like that oh no now now you’re gonna give him ideas luckily I I’ve steered clear from any rookie hazing um no yeah yeah luckily he has kept me kept me clear of any any cold pranks yeah let’s keep let’s keep it uh Clean Slate then right so for you know people I mean even myself like I I do watch corn fairy tours when I get a chance uh when I see him on the Golf Channel and stuff like that but you don’t get to understand the full development of the Corn fairy tour uh as a as a viewer and as a fan so for like myself included but for the the listeners out there the corn fairy tour is obviously as basic as I could put it like the minor leagues right we’re we’re working our way to get on to the PGA Tour so right there’s not the Glamorous lifestyle in certain aspects at the PJ tour you you know once you get there has if I’m wrong you know please correct me because I’m guessing uh like the traveling aspect can get pretty brutal at times depending where you guys are at and tournament wise and stuff like that and I know the money is not as vast as it obviously is in the PGA that we continuously hear on the news and the Golf Channel how they’re continuing trying to increase the value of the p tour ever since the live tour came about um so I’m just you know kind of you know curious you know like the ins and outs of the Corn fairy tour not so much like the tournament but just the overall I mean you guys are new to the corn fairy tour this year right is what you said so how how’s it how’s it been on the corn fairy so far for you guys uh it’s been going well um I guess I can answer in two parts like first uh like the glamour side that that’s the crazy part about corn fairy tours it is such a spectrum like the the top 50 60 guys are actually making a killing like they make a good amount of money it’s it’s the first tier of golf you can make real good money um but on the it’s also all your expenses have it’s the first big jump of all expenses um so these guys it’s kind of like they got to win 80 90,000 to break even in year so if you’re in the top 50 60 people you’re doing that then some that’s that’s an awesome year and you’re living comfortably and you’re playing golf for a Liv and you’re sponsored by a few companies um yeah it’s like for a good amount of guys on tour it is a the beginning of a pretty cushy lifestyle um but if you’re not in that 70 range you’re losing money um so that’s been such an interesting thing for me to kind of see what makes a professional last isn’t as much as I mean of course being a great golfer is important but you really got to be a great entrepreneur as well like the guys that are making it last are finding ways to you know they’re reaching out to sponsorship deals um they’re getting themselves some Financial Runway so that they can survive a little bit longer to get another chance of making it to the top um so that’s been kind of a mind-blowing thing for me it’s like the guys who are the legitimate professionals they are also business professionals as well they’re giving themselves that Financial Runway um but then in terms of the travel with corn fairy I mean the travel with golf period is nuts whether you’re on the PJ tour or you’re on the PJ tour Americas um you know it’s you arrive to a tournament on Monday morning Monday afternoon you are immediately going to the course to get at least nine holes in some practice Tuesday uh you you know get back to the course get hopefully 18 holes walking and a little bit more practice Wednesday you might play in the Pro in um so you got nine holes with three you know r Amur which these guys when they’re at the vent they want to they want to practice get really high quality looks and sometimes when you’re paired with you know three amateurs who don’t play golf that much it can be a it can be a great time which a lot of times it is for us but other times like a dang like it really puts a just like a block in the flow of your practice and then the event starts Thursday and you got Friday Saturday Sunday and then Sunday night like as soon as the tournament ends we’re going to the airport fly the next one yeah so it really like we are on a three we break right now so we got two more weeks until we leave for Savannah Georgia and that these are that’s really like our only time off like once we leave for Savannah it’s like there’s something every single day golfing or traveling to every single day yeah so it is it is it is time it is ever more important to have a caddy that you know you mesh with just personality typ wise because oh man if you can’t stand the guy that’s looping with you 18 holes week after week that that like it quickly gets old so yeah the travel I guess I never uh I guess I never knew or realized that the flow of the whole week is pretty much identical to a PGA event with practice routs Pro amps and then playing the tournament so it’s it’s pretty wild so I guess you’re really I I want I guess I’m curious and kind of thinking out loud at the same time that when you see a lot of these guys go from the corn fairy to the PGA I mean I’m not saying it’s a smooth transition but you see a lot of guys that seem to acclimate pretty well obviously again you know minus you know I’m sure the the conditions of the course are probably a little bit tougher or just depending on where you’re playing but you never see guys I think struggle with that extra demand which is which I always thought was the practice rounds and the proam leading into your 4-day tournament so it’s kind of cool to hear that the corn fairy tour uh does that as well so these guys including the caddies and yourself you know when you guys get to that next level you guys are already you guys have the muscle memory and the stamina it’s just now you got different competition now you got the Roy mroy and uh the Jordan speeds that you’re going up against just a little different scenario but same same stuff right yeah it’s great preparation it’s the same skeleton but yeah just up in the Annie a little bit um yeah it it’s it is incredible preparation for the Big Show because there’s a lot more than just golf that you have to learn in being a professional golfer so um yeah corn fairy PJ tour Latin America and Canada which now America’s tour also did a great EXA schedule lesser Stakes so it’s like um PJ tour really does have a great feeder system you know minorly based comparison for the PJ tour yeah um so I’m also wondering too so again I feel like I’ve been beating this like with a dead horse on a lot of my previous episodes uh talking PGA versus the live tour and I guess we don’t get to hear Too Much from the corn fairy side is there a lot of chatter concern when all these convers I mean live t erupts and we see certain golfers go over there take the guaranteed money and stuff like that now from corn fairy perspective you’re I’m I’m guessing but correct me if I’m wrong I mean now that’s creating openings for guys from the corn fairy extra openings I guess maybe two right to go jump to the PGA at some point it’s during one that you know three years ago when that took off but now we hear a lot of the the back and forth DJ is trying to get more money and potentially might come from same Investment Group as livor I don’t know how that necessarily flows through the corn fairy but does that does that chatter kind of go back and forth with you guys at all is is there concerns is there opportunities now with with the live tour and the PJ tour now basically neck and neck side by side and stuff like that from just a different tour perspective you know where where’s that kind of in your guys’s eyes yeah I mean to answer the question of do they talk about it I mean corn Fair tour players and CES are literally the boys like they talk like you know everyone does like inevitably we’re all fans of golf so they everyone is talking about it um it’s a topic of every encounter is a little bit about live um but it’s I mean what I’m going to say is nothing new it’s uh weird in the shortterm play for golf but I think in the long term of golf it’s a awesome play uh but it just is uh unknown of how long it will be until it’s a good thing um it stinks that the talent is diluted between you know two major leagues you want to see best players against the best players like period that’s that’s what golfers competitors want like doesn’t necessarily need to be live or PJ tour like they really don’t care they want the best to compete against the best every week yeah and to have that CR so I’m what I’m picking up is they really don’t care how you call it they love the game of golf they want the game of golf to be uh you know unified and have everyone at the same tournaments um and then to your question of does it create more opportunity for us uh not so much in the current like in terms of opportunities on the big stage not not too much I mean golf is a ginormous game there are you know thousands of guys vying for all these spots and I think Liv has you might better than me maybe 80 golfers 70 or 80 I don’t know the exact number but yeah I mean it’s it’s definitely in that general area not less right now yeah so it’s like they have some awesome talent but it’s not like there’s been a a massive shift of like oh shoot there’s a bunch of spots open for grab the PGA Tour it’s I mean at the end of the day the same way to get into PJ tour as it has been you got to finish top 30 um at the end of this corn fairy tour season and you get your card um so that’s kind of what we have our you know our focus is and it uh the to live PGA Tour you know chatter box literally is that that’s all it is for us we don’t know any more than the average consumer does so we gossip about it just like Talking Heads do yeah I mean and you know I think I’ve talked about this on prior recordings and prior episodes and even like with just in general you know with friends and family you know when we’re talking golf are watching it and I keep telling everybody in my personal opinion I think we’re I don’t think we’re Leaps and Bounds but we’re we’re still a safe distance away from seeing any type of merger if there’s one in the future I’m with you I think it’s I I don’t like saying there’s an asteris against different tournaments when guys win but at the same time it’s certain tournaments outside the majors we’re not seeing all the top golfers play against all the top golf golfers which is ultimately like you said as consumers and fans of golf that’s really what we what we’re always itching for I me I think that’s why the majors are the majors right and um it’s other tournaments where we don’t get to see it like a waste management or you know as of recently like the Genesis and stuff like that where uh you know like a John Ram who won last year at one of those is now at Liv so he doesn’t get to defend and stuff like that it’s um you know I don’t necessarily agree with I think it was Taylor G said you know these are all going to have asteris for all the guys that win because we’re not there I I wouldn’t take away anything from that aspect but to his point I get what he’s saying it’s like hey you guys are winning tournaments but there’s about 50 of us that are in the if the rankings were legit and the what is it the owgr you know basically didn’t reject the live tour guys you he said hey there’s 50 of us that are probably in the top 50 that you guys AR playing against so just keep that in mind when we see you guys in Augusta for the ones that are invited for the first major um so yeah that’s where I was it’s like at least we have the majors to kind of settle all those debates like in terms of asteris and whatnot it’s like you know we got the big tournaments to kind of uh settle the competitive debate or not yeah I agree uh speaking of the majors it because I don’t know and the corn personally I don’t know the corn fairy tour like as far as like the different tournaments and courses that you guys are playing at each week throughout the year um and like the caliber of courses I should say are the tournaments is there like corn fairy May Maj at all or something of like that sort no Majors uh but similar to like the FedEx Cup uh we have I believe the final two events are our playoff style events H so I don’t even it’s not nearly what it is on the PGA tour where it’s like what top 70 and then 60 for St Jude whatever um but this one’s like 25 I believe in standings so the final two events of the year are te you know not guaranteed to everyone technically but it’s a much larger scoop than the rest or than PGA Tour but no no Majors no elevated events uh it’s the same purse for each event all right sounds good well hey JP I uh I appreciate your time uh joining us on that’s too bad podcast here talking us fairy and just talking golf with us we appreciate your time we uh we’re wishing you and Austin best of luck this season and uh we’re going to check the leaderboards every week see where you guys are at and uh might reach out to you later this year I know you guys are going to have a busy schedule uh maybe down the line later this year we can get you guys back on maybe you and Austin and check in and how the season’s going for you guys but we appreciate your time today and uh and yeah let’s have a good season this year let’s go yeah looking forward to more appearances and maybe I’ll have some rookie hazing stories for you there we go I appreciate it sweet thanks for having me on yeah no problem thank you all right I hope you guys enjoyed that conversation I had with corn faery caddy JP Burke I know I had a blast having them on it was great conversation and hopefully maybe we can get him back on here to give us an update later in the season on how everything’s going and uh you know just what’s going on with him and everything on the corn Fair tour in general but yeah and this this uh wraps it up for me on that’s too bad podcast don’t forget go go go listen go Share It Go on YouTube go watch I don’t know why you would want to just watch me talk here in front of all these golf balls here that I got my trophy case um but yeah go share it go like it whatever you got to do let’s you know I anything I I appreciate it spreading the word of that’s too bad golf podcast here don’t forget also go take check it up shank of golf I’m not getting paid to advertise here shank of golf dope polos dope hats everything else 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