2 PROS & A CUP OF JOE- LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox dive deep into what’s waiting for Caleb Williams, from the fanbase’s expectations to what’s expected to happen if he fails or succeeds under this franchise.

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So speaking of the opposite of a roast you know it’s like a feel-good reception and whatnot and I know you’ve talked about this before like what Caleb Williams is walking into in Chicago and how it you know it isn’t you know people look at it and they go the history all of that stuff he he showed up at Wrigley Field this weekend for a Cubs game yep they showed him a ton of love like they they just and they didn’t even like pan on him for that long that play went nuts and it was the the biggest crowd I think they’ve had all year at Wrigley thus far it was their first time they were playing a division opponent so you had like you know the people from Milwaukee who drove in like it was a great atmosphere all weekend there they showed him for a few seconds and it it was like the the entire Place turned around and it was like seeing a full blown celebrity for the first time encounter caught on camera like people were going nuts for this guy he hasn’t played a snap I don’t even think he’s signed his contract yet if I’m not mistaken I think it’s great for the sport I think it’s great for the town for the city um I think it’s a great it has the potential to be a great story and a great aspect but with great storylines they don’t always they don’t always go the way that there’s like like for instance all right let me give you a great example Snow White no no let’s not go Snow White let’s let’s go let’s go uh we don’t want to lose Lee so let’s what let’s go uh Cinderella Cinderella is a better she’s a better one all right like you got to go through some adversity before you can get like you know the mom she didn’t want snow uh um uh what’s her name Cinderella to alsshine her daughter so she put her up in the the the addict and she you know was playing no that’s a different I’m talking about Cinderella Rapunzel’s that’s that’s that’s n we can’t use Rapunzel what you I know these movies hey L can you help out here at least Rapunzel was being Hidden Away by her I get it I get it he’s up in a tower he’s thinking Towers Rapunzel Rapunzel was up in the tower with hair no no Cinderella was up in the attic too she was put upstairs in the attic I know my stories right so anyway I got daughters I’m a daughter dad so anyway the point is is that they’re like where’s he going with this the the point I’m trying to make is Cinderella had to overcome some adversity right for for her to be seen the way that she needed to be seen the storyline takes you away from her and what she’s going to end up being once the clock hit midnight right she had her her her gold slipper she had the The Carriage she looked like she was a person of means and came from status and everything was supposed to work out until it struck midnight I don’t know that the Chicago Bears team or organization is in the right place for the story to start off fast it’s already the the the storyline is in play Caleb Williams comes to town they have a great draft they have a strong off seon this means that there should be a a a renewal of of excitement there should be a an entrance of of of success that takes place with Caleb Williams arrival in Chicago that is the set that is the storyline that’s that’s what’s set up but what will be the conflict what will be the conflict and what will end up being the the the rise to the the climax of what what the movie what the storyline presents because then that’s where you’re going to know will he they they asked him the question could he handle aters and he said he’s handled adversity several times throughout his career and even named examples but the biggest thing about when you have the whole saying of much is required much or much much much is given much is required Caleb Williams has been he’s earned it but he’s been given the key to Chicago the city already and now with him being given that key what will he do with it and if there is adversity and there will will be adversity how is he going to handle that because just as quickly as a a mob in a fan base will cheer you on and and and you hear the Roars of how excited they are they they also can be the Boo and they could also be the what the hell is this they can also be very very critical and very very unforgiving especially in a city like Chicago that’s one of those markets like when I talked about Russell Wilson going to p B that’s one of those markets they’ll show you love like we love you today we love you but let you mess up my Sunday too many times you mess up my Sundays too many times and I’mma show you how I feel and and to me how will he handle that how will this team handle that if if that’s what takes place and look to your point we’ve seen that I mean look in Philly like Nick serani has been fantastic as a head coach and he has one bad moment like he had to like sell himself to ownership in the off season just to keep his job they were just in a Super Bowl nearly won a Super Bowl they’ve been to the playoffs every single year he like his winning percentage since he’s been in Philly is amongst the top in the NFL amongst every single coach and Nick serani in Philly had to almost sell himself again to ownership to make sure he kept his job this off season and and they had to sell themselves to the fan base yeah it it’s wild I also look at it like this with the Caleb Williams stuff in Chicago when I see the reaction and reception he got at Wrigley Field sitting there in a Press Box when they pan over to him and the place is going nuts like if you know a 2-year-old catches a foul ball line drive with his bare hands like I mean the place was going nuts and I see that reaction I go all of the stuff that we were hearing before the draft about well he may not want to go there and he might just go back to college and he might force them to do this and he what a bunch of crap I think he looks at it and goes yeah I know it hasn’t been done here from a quarterback standpoint they’re the only team in the NFL that’s never had a 4,000 yard passer in a season which is wild to think about in a Passing League they haven’t won a Super Bowl in what are we talking about 40 years coming up on 40 years they haven’t won a Super Bowl they’ve made an appearance though yeah and in in ‘ 06 and ‘ 07 but I look at it and I go I think Caleb Williams recognizes yeah but if I win one here that’s almost like winning two or three elsewhere because it hasn’t happened amazing long ass time it’s an amazing market and and when you look at the history they have never had a true Bonafide franchise quarterback if you get it done in Chicago at quarterback for the Bears and you’re that guy that everybody says he is and everybody is anticipating him being he goes to another level like he he’s in the rarified air of Chicago Sports athletes he’s in the rarified air of athletes period if he doesn’t in Chicago like I and I I wonder with his sort of understanding and and his self-awareness to impact and you know how like what he can do in certain spots and how he can influence a game and all that stuff like and I’ve read some stuff about him and just sort of how he is as a teammate and when he went to the Heisman award ceremony he took all his offensive linemen made sure they all came with him had everything you know they all you know got everything taken care of they all flew out there I think he looks at this and the more he’s there the more he’s going to realize man what an opportunity to be the one to get it done there because look what what athlete doesn’t realize that when they get drafted but I think there’s certain places where it’s different like when the Red Sox finally won a World Series man the the guys who are Part of That World Series team but listen to what I’m saying listen what I’m telling you what athlete that gets drafted doesn’t think that about their team for themselves yeah but you don’t think that there’s a different level of celebration in places where it’s not happened before not for the player not for the player the player looks at it from the standpoint of if they’re drafted in the type of situation where they’re a firstr draft pick a number one for that team as a draft pick the Fanfare that comes along with you getting drafted that’s exactly what you’re thinking that’s exactly what you’re supposed to be thinking is that look at this golden opportunity for me to come in as a top draft pick which means our success is going to be directly attributed to my my acquisition and that means something amazing if we win that’s that’s that’s Universal but the stakes is what I think you’re you’re hitting on the stakes are so high for Caleb Williams high stakes like Andrew Luck Stakes like John Elway Stakes like the stakes are tremendously high for Caleb Williams and that’s where what you’re saying actually comes into play because the amount of attention that is going to be paid to Caleb Williams and what he does is going to be at a feverish pitch before we even get to the first game you know what’s F you because you bring up the the Andrew Luck cuz that’s you know one of the comps CU they talk about generational talents and they point to Andrew Luck John Elway Trevor Lawrence Caleb Williams is the next in line when it comes to that like Andrew Luck like there was expectations and it was because paon Manning had just been there like they had a great they won a Super Bowl ironic it’s like almost like we got rid of PT Manning to bring in Andrew love and you know what’s wild about it too cuz everybody understood it cuz pton Manning’s neck issues and all that and they were going to go in a different direction pton Manning had a better run Post Indianapolis than Andrew Luck had in Indianapolis yeah he got a Super Bowl like and went to another one and went to another one yeah and and I’ve always thought that was interesting because whenever you hear about you know Payton Manning and and him you know representing a team or having some sort of a relation it’s always with Denver it’s almost like we don’t even think about his time in Indianapolis and he was there way longer than he was in Den course he was and so like Andrew Luck took that over and it was like well you know they just had success and it felt Super Bowl never played in a Super Bowl never made it a Super Bowl and but it felt different cuz they still had that success kind of lingering whereas you know if you’re Caleb Williams and you get to some place like John Elway your other comparison they never they never got a Super Bowl before John Elway that’s that’s fair and finally got one years L here’s the point with with the whole idea of how big the stakes are the Colts did win a Super Bowl yeah and the Colts did have success and the Colts is it’s a good Market but they know what it is to have a franchise quarterback even before PT Manning you think about Trevor Lawrence and that’s a good comp you bring up Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence largely in part for what the Fanfare said has been a disappointment like there have been there have been highs for him yeah but there certainly hasn’t been that that differentiator of what represents a generational Talent at the position he has not transitioned into being that player agreed but the market allows for him to not be that guy he doesn’t have to be he’s not even right now the best quarterback to ever play in the history of that franchise it’s Mark Brunell hands down damn it is and and and he hasn’t even transitioned into being the top tier of of of franchise quarterbacks in the league we’re just going to dismiss Blake Bortles like yes we are we are we’re going we’re going to dismiss you for for yeah we’re going to stay we’re going to stay with with my man Mark brell by the way do sorry to interrupt Blake bortle said one time he said that he got a Tesla so that he would avoid having to get gas because he would always go into a gas station and get chew so so in order to stop his his dipping habit he got a Tesla so he didn’t have to and he said now he finds himself just driving straight to a gas station and walk it in without filling up like you’re so hooked on Copenhagen that you’re like man I got to get a Tesla there’s there’s a work around here it’s got to be an electronic car at least he had a consistent habit there is there is that cuz he didn’t win his was habit wasn’t winning but your point on on it’s a smaller Market it’s a market that that is forgiving because it’s not that type of brand it’s not that type of Personality connected to that that fr franchise but you go to a place like Pittsburgh and play for the Steelers you go to a place like Philly and play for the Eagles or to the Giants or the Jets or to the Bears you got to deal with a fan base that will fight you in the streets if you’re if you’re the reason why their team isn’t winning they’ll fight you I remember I remember the first time I was in in New York and I’m in the game I I decided 100 autographs and 101 F you go back to Washington like bro I like right like they they’ll they’ll they’ll they’ll sell you out quick hardcore Market fan bases you can you you want to know what it is you can never do enough I I heard jok no was on Dan lebatard’s podcast and I heard him say he’s like yeah man he’s all signing with the Knicks signing in New York that was a big deal but it’s not so much fun when you’re 611 and your team stinks and you’re not playing well they will eat you up because you’re just walking around and people are not happy with then you go look then you go out you go out on the town and y’all all go into the same areas so you’ll see the teams of relevance versus the teams that aren’t relevant and it is day and night the way you’re treated you’ll see okay sir come Mr stra Hand come over d d this da when we when I first got there we was walking around I’m looking at Jets they’re standing in the line we walking right in like they’re like oh your table’s over here sir we looking at the Nicks it’s like man like what’s up bro like cats is looking at you like can you get me in hey man we we play the same stadium can you get me in hey bro they are unforgiving when you lose oh man so he and and the this the hardest part of all of this is we’re talking about it in singular player terms right everybody we’re bringing up but it’s actually such a team driven sport it’s such a cultur driven sport so if there is something wrong with the culture in Chicago which it seems like there might be if there’s something wrong with the the team and how they’re doing things which it could be then Caleb Williams is is only it going to be as good as the Environ will allow for him to be he’s only going to get as big as that tank is going to allow for him to be able to get it’s it’s it’s really based off of so many other determining factors yeah and that’s what’s crazy is that we place these athletes in these impossible scenarios that they have to navigate that they have absolutely no control over and you’ll look at him and you’ll say oh he’s underperforming oh he’s not as good as we thought he was going to be oh he’s a bust and it’s everything to do with how that organization is ran what what they’re doing what the coach is doing what the owner is doing what the GM is doing there so many different reasons why things could go wrong for a player like Caleb Williams and it’s going to be interesting to see if he can handle the adversity to trying to actually get to a place of where this team is competitive enough to be a Super Bowl competing team man but if does it oh if he does it it’s a rrap it’s a rrap he ain’t going nowhere oh it’s a rap and and not to mention the amount of money he’s going to make oh my God it’s a r and I’m talking before he gets to his contract if he has a great rookie season a great sophomore season the amount of advertisement dollars that are going to come his way is going to be unbelievable crazy

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