Goodness Grip!

Nose down? Pour the coffee? Turn the key? Flip the disc? Suitcase ?
Lots of ideas and ways coaches try to get us to feel the proper relationship between grip and throwing. Here are a couple grip thoughts on how pressure in the proper places could help us arrive at a great nose angle.

[Music] hello everybody I’m P ebery welcome back to the channel let’s do a quickish tutorial on grip I believe grip is one of the most fundamental things to getting the disc golf swing right and to help newer players get their form to begin to line up from the very beginning let’s talk about the first step is getting the grip right most people when they first start throwing they grab the disc like this it’s natural they the wrist naturally Works in this so they end up grabbing it let’s just call this holding the coffee but holding the coffee in a way where we’re not pouring it out so if I said hey pour me a cup of coffee you would carefully pour me a cup of coffee because you don’t want all that coffee spilling out at once so pour the coffee so let’s grab the disc I’ve got it here I’m carrying my mug now what I’ve done is I’ve poured the coffee I just relax pour that let it let it out I don’t want to overpour it if I overpour it I end up binding my wrist I end up causing more tension I scald the table because there’s too much coffee pouring out so we go here what we want is we want the disc lining up with the center middle of our forearm as long as it’s lining up somewhere in here near the forearm we’re going to be in a much better place than here most people that hold it like this throw nose up and they miss high left the reason why is because they come across their body and that’s where it pops out you know the disc comes Pop Pop pops out goes high and left how we correct that like this now the body is in a position where it will begin to deliver that disc more on a level plane out of the lever of the forearm the wrist and the hand so next grip so we talked about instead of grabbing it like this and holding it here let’s talk about where we’re going to grab the disc how we’re going to grab it and the pressures we need to put on the disc in order to hold it properly in place so that we don’t let other muscles dominate the swing that will cause US problems in the future we want to use the muscles that are proper for this grip so that when we throw the disc we’re not causing other issues okay we’re going to grab the disc here see that index finger wraps around thumb covers looks like this okay now as it wraps to itself it squeezes to itself it’s not squeezing into the Palm it’s not making a fist it squeezes to itself and the thumb covers all right that’s first step if you’re a power grip person here’s what you’re going to do same thing take these two fingers put them in they want I want them like somewhere in here like this they’re touching the top of the rim or touching the top of the flight plate and squeezing into the rim now if they’re just squeezing into like this and grabbing and pulling towards themselves you’re going to end up going like this okay what I want is them to have a little bit of touch on the top of the flight plate pinky can do the same okay Pinky he’s in there he’s Supporting Cast he’s not the director of the whole show but he’s he’s hanging in there okay so there so now when they’re in that position what you can do is I want that pressure of those fingers squeezing upwards and into the Palm this into the Palm I don’t want this squeezing down like this I want these these supporting each other over here they’re hanging out these guys are going to squeeze into your palm okay so here we go boom now when they squeeze upwards through this flight plate you see them right here you can see them through the flight plate they’re in the hand if I squeeze upwards into the Palm they’re squeezing into the Palm in here rather than just pinching down against their hand clinching they’re squeezing and clinching upwards what that does is that drives this angle here next step modified fan grip we’re going to do the same thing grab it here fingers on the flight plate slide in pinky Supporting Cast these two fingers are pretty dominant muscles you’re going to hold it like that they’re going to squeeze upwards into the Palm upwards into the Palm I’m not twisting my wrist to get it there I’m squeezing these fingers up squeeze those into the Palm when I squeeze those into the Palm I quit dominating with the thumb and pushing down the thumb is just supporting this here Supporting Cast those fingers underneath squeeze that up into that place now what that does is we end up with a back loaded grip front loaded grip is here back loaded grip grip is here this helps us control and so if you get that backloaded grip it also levels that disc out and as we come through the hit point that creates an upward pressure on the bottom of the disc pretty much and that helps when the disc releases instead of feeling a dominant downward force from the thumb rolling under we have an upward Force kind of balancing up against the thumb in the upper Palm if you haven’t seen the last few videos that I put up that discuss a little bit of what’s going on with the gyroscopic procession our release Point ends up being at about the the four 4 to 5:00 position on the disc on the line that we’re throwing and if that at that point we push down 90° away because of gyroscopic procession we end up with the tail going down well if you push down on the tail the nose goes up so if we’re rolling our wrist under in any way thumb pressure overd dominating the fingers or pulling with the fingers underneath see so if these fingers are pulling on each other pulling against the wrist to get that we’re going to end up going this but the but what will happen is 90 degrees away the tail will go down and a consequence will be that the nose will go up are you using your muscles incorrectly to drive the nose up or are your muscles working with your throw and with your forearm and with your bicep and with your shoulder to actually hold the disc in a position where at the release Point you’re naturally getting to that position that everybody’s talking about suitcasing flipping the disc turning the key all those things are mental ways that we check ourselves to get into that position but if we hold the disc with the proper muscles I believe that we’re going to find that we can get into that position a whole lot easier and we can have a cleaner swing plane that’s what I have for you guys let me know how it works for you like And subscribe below thank you for following and we’ll see you guys in the next one [Music] peace