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[Music] w [Music] hey what is up everybody Welcome to draft night my name is Stephen and I am the host of The guilo Charge podcast as always joining me is my guy Tyler Tyler we made it night one is here we’ll be live again tomorrow live again on Saturday is my favorite weekend of the year and I’m super excited to have you here alongside with me how are you doing tonight I’m doing fantastic congratulations to us for getting here congratulations to all the Chargers fans for getting here it felt like really quick to get here and then suddenly the last week or so it’s been really slow but I’ve been waking up at 4 o’clock every morning now for the past week in anticipation of this this I’ve had draft dreams and I’m ready to go dude I’ve got a pizza to my left an energy drink in my other hand the catheter is set up I’m just kidding I’m ready no no no I I’m I don’t have the pizza yet but uh it’s happening I got an espresso coffee and my Amber mug going uh you know we’ll keep the the vocal cords nice and and fluid as well so excited for tonight excited for all of you guys to be here we already have 336 people in the chat so uh appreciate all of you sincerely thank you for every to everybody who has tuned in to our preff coverage um it definitely has been a labor of love and now we get to see how it plays out so um lot of stuff to cover um huge movement in the Betty market last night uh that our guys Tyler Alex and Alex covered last night so uh if you missed that and want to go quickly catch up I would not blame you because there’s a lot of JC laam smoke at number five um so should be uh should be a lot of fun oh yeah I’m pumped dude the good news is I had last night in that live stream with the guys to process this JC leam thing ultimately I do not believe it’s a leam at five thing I honestly would still think it’s Joe Al at five and leam in a tradeback so that’s kind of where I’m feeling then again it takes the Vikings giving up X number of picks you know Joe hortiz wants that big trade Hall what’s it going to be it can’t just be fair if it’s just a fair trade it’s a wash we’ll stick and pick take one of these players if no one else offers a good enough offer then they’re going to trade they’re going to stay so I mean I’ve given my thoughts on JC leam um for what it’s worth like he’s the 10th highest graded player on my board he’s eighth ranked on my board given some you know considerations to other players like lot who have medical concerns Etc but like I do think he is worth a top 10 selection the question is a is it worth it five b is it worth it over other players because you and I have at minimum Marvin Harrison Jr Brock Bowers Malik neighbors Romo dun and Joe Al and Olu fashanu over JC leam so your thoughts on this yeah so I I’ve always felt like JC leam is the Harbaugh tackle if the tackle is the choice um if that’s the target leam is textbook Harbaugh guy textbook Joe’s guy if you look at like who the Ravens have had an offensive tackle Lam’s physical profile is like a one for one translation but he’s my 11th graded player I ended up with him as ot3 behind alt and fashanu and so it just at five it doesn’t make much sense to me and like that’s where all of the smoke went yesterday and it was like people online were like well like this is just Daniel Jeremiah right like this you know he never gets the Chargers picks right it’s like no no no this is everyone like it’s hard to find a mock draft that does not have the Chargers taking JC leam uh you know some of them have five overall some of them have 11 some of them have 10 I think so if they get JC leam in a trade down I’m generally cool with it because they have more assets to then go uh you know accumulate some picks but JC leam is a perfect fit at right tackle I think he checks every box of the looking for at that specific spot um to me like some of his issues are a little overstated like I think there was definitely some copium going on last night and people were like he was bad against Michigan it’s like no really like there were a couple like stunt IDs that Alama missed on but if you actually watch his like one-on-one stuff lean was fantastic in that game there were a few run blocking reps against Chris Jenkins in particular that he put Chris Jenkins on his ass like this is a Harbaugh guy of guys it’s a hortiz guy I completely understand why this you know uh hype train if you will kind of took off and you know because he he really is he’s a perfect fit for what this regime likes and prefers that offensive tackle both from a coaching standpoint and a front office standpoint I agree two shows ago we discussed you know we talked about Malik neighbors and talked about our big board we have Malik neighbors hire we have Joe Al hire but we discussed like don’t doesn’t JC leam and Romo Dun don’t they fit more what this team would want like we everyone’s talking about alt at five and they talked about Neighbors at five but Odun and lean these guys fit the Chargers more so you know I’m hearing all the and seeing all the you know is this not best player available like wouldn’t it be alt wouldn’t he be somewhere else someone else right this is the Chargers specific board this is Jim Harbaugh and Joe hortiz this is their board and JC leam fits them to a te yeah regardless of who you might have better they are receivers in this class that I like more than others there are running backs I like in this class more than others Etc but there’s roles there’s schemes there’s identity so for the Chargers yeah it might be JC leam on their specific board yeah so um we’ll see though I I still am hesitant to believe that this that that leam will be the selection at five for sure um but 11 yeah and I’m I’m all about it at that point yeah um I think that’s the important part is like we we grade these players and draft media grades these players kind of in general and then we cycle through like okay this is a Chargers fit this is not a Chargers fit and but that doesn’t necessarily affect our board I think if you are grading specifically offensive tackle for the Chargers I still think you would probably have Joe alt as ot1 just because I do think he is that much of a better Prospect but Leon’s probably second and actually not probably I guarantee you he would be second if you’re just grading purely for the Chargers fashu is not a Chargers type you know Troy fanu he’s probably an interior player according to most people in the league so leam would be high on that board and this is a great point from Thomas Martinez um who’s done a ton of great work in this draft cycle you know this weekend whoever the Chargers draft if you go to Thomas’s Twitter profile and search up that player’s name there’s a pretty good chance that he’s got a profile up of that player so I would definitely encourage everybody this weekend to go follow Thomas check out his work he’s done a fantastic job covering the draft too but lean was offered by Michigan recruited heavily by Michigan Harbaugh really really wanted him um but you know Alabama nil money at the time was significantly different than Michigan money to so Michigan was not Michigan you know in 2021 when he was uh coming out of of high school so that’s an important Point as well um we’ll we’ll talk more about like position specifics for you know JC leam if the Chargers drafted him if they draft him at five he 100% is your right tackle like Trey pipkins is your swing tackle immediately 11 maybe there’s a conversation maybe there’s a position battle but I I did see some people talking about that where it’s like oh like they could you know put him at guard for 2024 I think if you take leam in the top 11 I think he’s your right tackle and I’d be pretty surprised otherwise I think if you make him a guard it’s a complete miscalculation of the entire draft I understand why some other teams maybe I guess but you take him to play tackle because and if you look at Daniel Jeremiah’s mock Pete trigger’s mock Dan Brugler Etc Tyler gon is going in the first round and that is really the last kind of chargers type option until you get to round three and even then you’re down to maybe two guys right we talked about Patrick Paul and Blake fiser so if you don’t take a tackle early you’re it’s probably a round four tackle or you have to pre one of those other guys to Falls to round two or round three or you reach in round two or you go completely out of character and go with um you know Rosen Garden or Kingsley swam mataya and these guys so whereas with the interior group you can take you you take the tackle now you can find 25 other interior offensive linemen throughout this class you feel really good about like we feel good about it you feel good about it Brandon Thorne feels this way that’s just how the class shapes up if you take leam and make him a guard that’s a horrible miscalculation whether it’s a five or 11 like you take him and you make him a tackle yeah 100% and I think we we talked about that scenario you know people ask me about like worst case scenario to me it’s like you take that guy you put him at guard and he stays at guard then you took a guard at you know top five and you passed on an elite wide receiver you know at least leam playing right tackle long term is a right tackle and this is a guy who hopefully you can you know have as a book and tackle for for the next eight to 10 years so um it’ll be very interesting to see exactly what happens the other side of this obviously is that the Chargers are as Jeremy fer put it 7-Eleven open trying to trade down of pick number five so there’s a bunch of teams including the Rams apparently uh that are trying to trade up for wide receivers that are trying to trade up for quarterbacks and so it’s it is going to be really interesting to see what specifically happens while theh fifth overall pick is happening so the Chargers want to trade down Daniel Jeremiah um even said that they would consider trading down if quarterbacks go one through four and Marvin Harrison Jr is at on the board at five he believes that they want to trade the hell out of there to as to quote him so um we’ll see what happens man the Chargers are certainly open for business there’s a lot of teams trying to move up for quarterbacks there’s a lot of teams trying to move up for wide receivers maybe somebody tries to move up for Joe Al so uh I think the draft is gonna be pretty chaotic in the top you know three through 10 yeah it should be I think we could even see change in the first not the first two the first two set in the stone but the third pick is it JJ McCarthy at three is it Drake May of course then what do the Cardinals do what’s the offer what are the Chargers get if they get an offer um do the Giants blink and try to move up to make sure they get their quarterback do they want a quarterback is it the Vikings lot’s GNA happen um it’s gonna be exciting draft honestly like I I really think so like last year I think was the first time we had three trades in the top 10 I believe in terms of trading in or trading out or just trading slightly down I I could see that being about as much tonight so a lot of action at the beginning of the first round yeah yeah 100% there’s you know the JJ McCarthy stuff is pretty wild because a lot of people think he could go two could go three could go four could go 11 so that’s um that’s kind of where we’re at I think if you want the Chargers to take a receiver tonight uh as I do as Tyler does I think you’re rooting for quarterbacks to go one through four and then the Chargers kind of come to their senses and take Marvin Harrison Jr at number five um otherwise it does really sound like the Chargers are going to do their absolute best to trade out of pick number five and um there’s been several mentions between them and the Jets obviously them and the Vikings um but it does really feel like the uh the Chargers are going to try and trade down we’ll see I I don’t think they trade off of Marvin Harrison Jr I just don’t think that happens whatsoever I don’t care any would surprise me and I think in terms of smoke screen I guess like trying to sift through all of this it feels like hey we really want to trade down we really want to trade down like maybe even if Marvin’s there so you can drum up the best offer possible I Joe hores has flat out come out and said he’s talked about leverage and timing in terms of trade value and stuff like that that was with the big four earlier in the offseason but he’s very much aware of like timing and leverage and trying to get the most out of something and waiting as long as possible to get that value so they’ll do that like they’ll send some stuff out there there so I think they stick and pick Marvin Harrison Jr or trade back but we’ll see if it’s Joe aled 5 or Malik neighbors or whatever um yeah we are it’s 4:45 45 minutes before excuse me 15 minutes the draft even starts there’s 1100 of you in here 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have my iPad next to me I’ll have the draft up I’ll play the audio and we’ll have a good time that way if you’re listening to NFL Network ESPN whatever I I don’t blame you um but please please please do not ruin the the notifications in the chat especially when the Chargers are picking um please keep it to yourself until we have like a true true reaction um I’m not trying to gatekeep or anything like that I think it’s just the way the draft should be watched and consumed so please don’t uh spoil things in the chat if stuff like the AJ Brown extension happens go for it fire away um but otherwise I strongly encourage all of you to turn your phones off at least the notifications for Twitter and just uh hang out have a good time and and uh don’t let this consume you in a negative way at the end of the day the draft is supposed to be fun it’s supposed to be made of Hope and uh have some good Positive Vibes tonight and hopefully we can uh contribute to that yeah alternatively as they say in the chat neighbors are we right you know you do whatever you want guys all I know is when it comes time for the Chargers pick you know I don’t mind looking at social media looking at the chat through the fourth pick once that’s announced notifications are off my phone’s away I don’t care if someone messages me congratulates me something bad happened they’re gonna have to wait for 10 more minutes while I figure out this pick as far as like when timing should work for reaction we will react to the pick I think at that point if you’re watching this stream and we react and say oh my goodness they took Malik Neighbors at five then feel freid to go at it in the chat um we’ll try to remind you guys as we go if you are in the chat and just as we get to like 5:30 you know throw a couple comments in there just like hey no spoilers look Stephen and I we’re total nerds we are completely nerds MCU anything Star Wars You Name It We don’t like our spoilers we don’t like our spoilers in movies or TV shows we don’t like it in football either so no spoilers here uh you’ll get the the banhammer as inos says yeah no spoilers you’ll get the banhammer so yeah as you guys are rolling in and thank you for now almost 1300 of you joining us today some people are asking what snacks do you have some people are shouting out where they’re from in the world I appreciate that let us know what are you eating where are you from Stephen what the hell is that it’s a little mac and cheese bite from Trader Joe’s uh oh you know that’s that’s the snack until I I actually order dinner later so I will be door dashing uh my wife is over at the in-law’s house today because she knew that I was going to be doing this so uh hello inlaws thanks for tuning in but uh should be a lot of fun mat my my wife is going to do you know CPR first aid Health Training whatever that’s called um so that’s good so if the Chargers have an awful pick she can resuscitate me uh once she finds me on the floor when she comes back yeah yeah yeah all right Alaska Colorado UK San Diego 5:19 a.m. wherever that is weirdly we actually have a good a good strong listener base in Colorado so shout out to the Colorado people who are you closet Broncos [Laughter] fans all right let’s get to some of these uh super chats shall we yeah let’s do it you want me to pull them up so you can uh go for yeah perfect go forward you do the next ones um Blake says thank you for your great draft content this offseason appreciate y’all appreciate break Blake he’s in the uh the Discord as well he been a loyal listener loyal supporter of the show so appreciate you guys for uh tuning in yeah thank you so much for that it’s been a blast I’ve loved doing this pre-draft content and I find that I mean this is year five for us we certainly I think our reaction Zoom the first time we did this I think we maybe had 50 people the fact that we are going to probably hit 1,500 by the time the draft starts is freaking awesome and I I truly appreciate that thank you so much Blake and everyone else who’s commenting super chatting you name it uh means a lot next one from forgotten lolcow I love these shows last call what are we doing at five I believe it’s Marvin Harrison Jr or they trade back that’s my guess and Stephen is eating his no no no I was I was getting the iPad ready to go I was getting the iPad ready to go um but yeah I tend to quarterbacks go one through four I think they take Harrison quarterbacks go one through three I think they trade back in some capacity whether that’s the 10 or 11 I feel like those are the two uh most likely spots yeah um it was really interesting so regarding the Jets trade um Everybody kind of nationally is talking about you know uh the connection between Joe Douglas and Joe Ortiz but Chad Alexander was just with the Jets as well so they they Chad knows the Jets board presumably up and down at this point uh and would obviously be able to make that instant connection there was a trade a few years ago I forget who it was but Ian Cunningham uh and the Eagles had like a direct line of communication the entire process uh and Ian Cunningham and Howe ended up working out a trade for the Eagles to come up for the Bears kind of deal if if I remember correctly so the uh the assistant GM that had his introductory press conference and got one question uh potentially holding the card for the for the Chargers tonight is another interesting story line here yeah there’s I mean if you want to extend that even further technically like Andy bishaw from the Giants I don’t know if he’d know the board but you know there’s some internal discussions there of course um so plenty of names plenty of connections I’m gonna go on a limb and say Harbaugh talks to everyone hortiz the good thing about hortiz and him being in the league for so long and being in charge of of college scouting so much for so long he’s got connections with everyone I mean the Ravens make trades all the time that phone is hot all the time so there there’s plenty of connections there’s no you know even though he’s a first-time GM like I don’t it doesn’t feel like Tesco you know yeah no he’s gonna have a stronger hold to it I think and um even with the college coaches Daniel Jeremiah has pointed out that Jo Ortiz is very close with a a few of the SEC coaches particularly Nick Sabin and Kirby Smart so you know Alabama Georgia players I think could be you know selections for the Chargers tonight yeah I mean we we’ve been anti Dame and it’s hilarious that now with the with an SEC oriented general manager and then of course Jim Harbaugh with Michigan like now they’re gonna go with another Dame player potentially at five yeah I see some questions in the chat about like which coverage is better uh I I watch NFL Network I think they are the better collection of of talent evaluators as well as reporters as well as the host I think they do the draft the best um and if I were not streaming that’s who I would be watching uh ESPN I just think they do I I don’t think they do the draft right I don’t I don’t think they have really anybody on that set that actually studies and grades players and then they just talk about quarterbacks the entire time like with the the Chargers would be on the pick with pick 20 23 potentially and they’d be like hey well Caleb Williams went number one it’s like okay we’ve moved on so uh I would watch NFL network if I were watching the draft that’s who you’ll hear when I make the transition to picks is is the NFL NW cast so uh that’s who I prefer great so thanks for killing our shot at going on ESPN every anytime soon I have NFL Network on and I think it it one I love Rich Eisen I think he’s great and two Daniel Jeremiah is the most plugged in most he will cover the Chargers I’m gonna go on a limb and say Daniel Jeremiah will talk about the Chargers so I I do prefer their stream overall I have NFL Network on right now um it’s weird to have it muted so I’m trying to like I’m gonna watch Ra’s doing something right now and I’m like what is he talking about they’re going to be complete chaos right now and I’m just I’m just sitting over here eating a pizza yeah so you know that’s life uh speaking of the Sho family got Mama sh in the chat always appreciate it and since day one she’s been she’s been my longest fan yeah so I appreciate that I would hope so at least I would think so yeah I’m gonna go on a Lim and say her um yeah uh we got Jacob Faso in the chat thanks for doing what y’all do thank you for the support I’m at the David Busters event and can’t listen in but yeah I just love yall yeah sounds like there’s a ton of people in uh in the Die Hard bult Club you know watch party over at DAV and Busters so hopefully you guys have a great time hopefully you have some some good food play some games I feel like dve and Busters would actually be a great place to watch the draft because if you get bored you can just go play some games you take your kids and they can have some fun so I feel like that’s a good call from Die Hard Bol Club doing their event over at D Busters yeah my uh I really wanted to go to D Busters I just had like an itch to go so my family and I we all went and we did the axe throwing game which is like it’s like a fake axe but it’s still very heavy and you actually throw it out of Target and sticks in the Target and I think my dad and I we threw it like I feel like 20 different times and maybe it stuck twice my mom went and threw it and I think maybe 17 out of 20 times that thing stuck on the bullseye couldn’t believe it so my mom is literally good at everything she always hits the bullseye and as always uh hitting the bullseye her prize picks as well all right next up from m S I believe following alone from is it aceros um oh sorry across the pond in Denmark luckily I have the day off tomorrow hope the pick will be worth losing sleep over the good news is they might pick at five so that’s great um so that takes care of that you can go to sleep early they also might trade up to 31 if they’d like from the second round so you never know but uh yeah I think it’s worth losing sleepover no matter what it’s exciting I even just like you know because we’ve watched all these players it’s fun to watch watch everyone at a different spots and go oh my gosh this team that team the Lions were so entertaining last year right for reasons that were mostly like why’d you take a linebacker that early but you know the draft the draft P out okay yeah uh Denmark I have some Denmark in my uh Heritage so Mr s and I might be like distant cousins it wouldn’t surprise me um shout out Denmark and anybody else that’s uh watching over there so appreciate you guys um yeah so my one we talked about least favorite fits for the division Rivals the other day Peter shreer had the Chiefs trading up for Marius Mims and I will lose my [ __ ] if that happens that is so unfair to have that potential because Andy Heck is a great offensive line coach I will be so upset if they get amarius mims in the draft tonight I I don’t know who the Chiefs are picking whoever they pick I’m gonna hate it yeah like the good news is they got the edge rusher last year who I liked but it’s like okay pH not a receiver not a tackle they might have needed although at the time I guess they didn’t really need one so I I’m glad they got the edge rusher that they did at the time but they’re going to go receiver or tackle this year I’m gonna hate it if they find a way to trade up for something like Brock Bowers for some reason and just pass the torch to the next generational tight end who’s going to be a Hall of Famer I’ll hate that I’ll hate whatever they do it could be Trey Benson I’ll hate it it could be Blake Corman I probably would hate it no but we were we were in Vegas when they took Sky Moore and we all really like skymore than drafted we like are you freaking kidding me like no way way yeah and skymore hasn’t really done anything in the league so you know that’s the draft that’s the draft there all right next one here from uh Gary assuming a tray down in the first round that Nets us 11 and 23 why not a CB or defensive line with that first pick great question I personally would probably go that route I would love to go with Johnny Newton Byron Murphy terion Arnold Queen on Mitchell whoever they pick as their best player I’d love that at 11 and I would go defense potentially 11 and 23 I wouldn’t mind that Chargers fans would Riot but I would get it you trade back to 11 consistently 23 consistently there’s a great defensive tackle there’s a great Corner sitting there even at 23 you can get an edge rusher I don’t think they’ll trade back and double dip at defense but I would kind of get it if they’re a team that is going to run the ball a lot and Herbert is not designed to throw the ball more than 20 times a game let’s say you got to play defense Chargers have no defense they they have some good Edge rushers some good pieces but they need a lot in the secondary on the defensive at defensive tackle at linebacker so I would get it if they go hey I think our line is actually set we’ll use the strength of the draft to get receiver later on because we’re not throwing it a ton let’s go defense double dip in the first round I’d get it because it matches their play style yeah I think for me getting the chance at corner one or dt1 at 11 is is what I would prefer but I think it’s going to be leam at 11 unless somebody takes him before they pick at 11 so 23 for me you know depending on this on like who’s on the board I think this team would really like Cooper deine I would not be shocked if that’s the selection I don’t know if he makes it that to that point um Alex katson has connected the dots between the Chargers and Nate Wiggins several times before Jesse Minter was at the pro day they’ve had him in for a visit they’ve met with him at the combine there’s a lot of Nate Wiggins Chargers connections and if that’s a pick at 23 I wouldn’t be shocked either I think taking corner off the board early does make some sense for them because then you get to later rounds discussion it’s like well this guy’s maybe a slot this guy’s maybe outside maybe he can do a little bit of both if you just want your true outside corner one taking him at 23 I think is is a fine selection um and I’ve talked about Cooper deene a few times before being like the most underrated player by Charter fans and I stand by that him or Nate Wiggins Koolaid mckinstry as well if that’s if that’s who they would prefer I would be stoked to get one of those Corners at 23 yeah as would I oh my gosh if you can trade back and get one of those Corners at 23 you’re feeling great there’s so many question marks about I mean again do you fall to round two for a reason you’re going to round three for a reason there’s something that’s not quite perfect maybe it’s Medicals maybe it’s testing you know Kamar Lasser okay hey I really like him he’ll never be our outside guy Max sandr still well he’s only our slot guy Kyrie Jackson it’s age it’s the Alabama suspension that sort of thing so not that know Wiggins at 178 pounds is you know a perfect Prospect or qu Mitchell or Cooper not that they’re perfect but they check more boxes they had more questions answered about them um so yeah I would get it I’d be all for it because this team desperately needs corner but trade back overall I’m for I was with charger chat and you know we’re talking about the draft and I said the number one need for this team isn’t corner or tackle or Edge or receiver it’s just more players like that really is the number one need for this team it’s more players that’s the number one thing they need to address so i’ get it but again I maintain I’m receiver at five yeah no I toally get it too uh so it is five o’clock looks like we should be getting uh Roger Goodell’s you know opening statement shortly but we’ll keep going here there’s a lot of super chats to get to so appreciate you guys we’re up to 1500 almost 1600 so you guys are awesome we uh appreciate it huh I guess I am eating this pizza I said it 2000 i’ eat this thing and I gotta yeah there you go uh La Chargers fan says he wanted Harbaugh I wanted Ortiz whatever they decide to do I will support it I have my preferences just like everyone but I will trust the vision I think that’s probably where I land as well I mean at the end of the day like this is part of choosing this regime right and we know that they have a specific plan in motion we know that they have an identity set and at least it’s an identity like the Chargers did not have an identity for the last 12 years of my fandom now they have one if it doesn’t fit perfectly with like who I want in the draft like so be it but but I think I trust this regime over time to figure out the best way to maximize Justin Herbert and this Chargers Squad um you know you’re not going to get a perfect team in the first year of the regime so I think this is the right approach but I’m not gonna you know discourage anybody anybody to Fan a certain way yeah I I’m here for the patience I’m I’ve been a fan for longer now you know I’m turning towards 30 which is not old by any means but I’ve now been a fan out of my high school years and college Years you know so I’ve been through enough up and downs and it’s been a lot of a lot of downs like it hasn’t been a great fandom overall some fine moments but nothing yeah great that would you put it like that well I mean our our high our highest point is the Chargers beating Baltimore in the wild card game like that is kind of our highest point in half of a wild card game against Jacksonville like that’s kind of it so I’m here for whatever I I have preferences you know I’ve said like with Keenan Allen I didn’t like him being traded I understand the process let’s see the vision that’s how I feel here too let’s see what they have in store and let it play out and if it Flames out oh well but we all 98% of us wanted Jim Harbaugh yeah even if he was even if he your second option you wanted Jim Harbaugh yeah so let’s see what they got yeah that’s totally fair and there are other receivers this is probably the best top three ever I think that’s comfortable to say but you and I both really like lad mcon Jaylen pulk uh Xavier Legette there are some other options on day two that would make sense and they could take a receiver next year in the first round if they want to yeah I am curious how they approach this year versus next year like is it better to get their offensive lineman in here now than next year draft a receiver ear Le sign a receiver because they have so much money whatever they got to do it’s that how they decide to make that push all in you know because they feel like they got to get the tackle now I don’t know because the other thing is I couldn’t tell you about next year’s class honestly I know number four from Arizona is a prettyy good receiver I heard of other couple names that went back to school otherwise I really couldn’t tell you about next year’s draft I bet you Harbaugh could I bet you hortiz could so there there’s an aspect of future projection that might be here with that said we just watched the Chargers take a receiver in round one in a bad receiver class and no tight end in a great tight end class and then have the options be limited reverse wise um this upcoming class so doesn’t mean that you always have the foresight yeah it’s very true very true uh Ashley hollik says thanks for the ongoing content been a fan for years regardless of the result excited for the future appreciate you ashle and appreciate the support uh all these years over the over the podcast tenure yeah thank you so much Ashley uh I am excited for the Future No Matter What there’s a lot to go even if round one we disagree there’s so many other rounds there’s eight more picks at minimum like a lot of talent will be added today and I think or this weekend and some good talent yep yep yep uh Theodore in here says can you please tell my wife Ivy that I am the champion at Fantasy Football uh Ivy uh Theodore is the champion at Fantasy Football you should let him do more leagues and and have a great time with that yes uh Ivy is the champ Ivy gosh darn it I’m sorry Theodore I ruined it for you uh Ivy Theodore is the champion at Fantasy Football but he should stop listening to me about fantasy football because I’m the worst at it so whenever we do some fantasy football coverage just you know turn off the TV you have my permission yeah yeah unless it’s daily fantasy we’re good at Daily fantasy yeah is my mom can do prize picks yeah Michael deor Rosa says Tyler’s hair is perfect Ste might be Stephen might be a closet Oregon Ducks fan uh obviously joking as you see all the the Utah deor over my shoulder um all of keep up the hard work guys wide receiver at five thank you Michael De Rosa for the Super Chat closet Oregon Ducks fan honestly I I think actually I could be a closet Utah fan because I feel like I Champion some of these Utah players they’re just kind of good though tends to be mostly the defensive guys but I don’t quite understand why they’re as as far down as they are on some of these boards I think all the Utah players in this draft are are underrated uh thank you for the hair combo though I appreciate that wide receiver at five I’m all for it yeah Oregon has some good NFL prospects for sure uh especially like you know over the last few years with like linemen and Corners you know some of the quarterbacks obviously should have led with that one that’s my mistake but you know it is what it is um but hopefully you guys go wreck the Big 10 uh Gabriel Caldera when it’s all said and done and you look back at this year’s draft process what are some of your favorite moments debates Prospect watches guests on the show Etc appreciate Gabriel in here as always for the generous Super Chat there um I mean guest on the show like that’s been more Alex’s thing this time around um we’ve had some great conversations with Trevor that’s been really cool um you know we got to do a series with him he did a a dueling mock draft episode so that was that was really fantastic Alex has crushed the interview process so he you know he’s had mimes and field Yates and all those guys on so doing getting me in coms on the show even if it wasn’t like me doing the interview that was pretty cool um favorite Prospect watch or debate with Tyler um let’s see I’m trying to think there uh uh we both really really like Johnny Newton like right out the gate We messaged back and forth about that that was a fun one so I guess I would choose that one yeah great call so favorite moments I really liked the reinvention of the process that we kind of tried out this year we usually do the Top 10 rankings top eight whatevers and it just kind of can become stale it can be a bit rushed it’s not as organic it’s been fun to just explore the entire consensus board as we want and listen I didn’t even get to 10 linebackers or safeties and you know what that felt great if we had to do a top 10 linebackers episode I wouldn’t be here I would literally be doing anything else because that was awful I quit so not having to do that doing something a bit different was awesome I like the riskk I like the um the safest Prospect my guys are big boarded Etc um Prospect watch I mean so many players this is my favorite class that I’ve watched I have favorite players from other classes like there will I don’t know if there’ll ever be another favorite watch like pan Su I think that was my favorite just pure watch because it was ridiculous what he could do but I loved watching this class and just diving through you know you hear about certain classes okay like how are they actually this receiver class held up this corner class definitely held up I think the running backs in general have been the most surprising I think looking through the running backs that are like this was not considered a good running back class and it’s not a great one but it’s very deep I think rounds like three through seven and really like on day three you can look at some of these names not perfect but you know watching like Rasheen Ali or Dylan lob or some of these guys on day three it was fun watching these guys I think the running back group overall favorite guest um we’ve had some really good guests I I do want to he’ll never listen to this but like Trevor syca consistently going on our show and dealing with us and staying longer than normal like you can tell when some guests are like let’s kind of wrap this thing up with him he he probably would have sat there for two more hours totally gracious with his time I know he works his ass off so I appreciate him yeah 100% um my probably favorite Prospect to watch in general this year is probably the Le out to latu I love watching pass rushers and a pass rusher who has like a plan and just like executes it and you can go through one specific game be like in the third quarter here’s a rep that he won based off of a move that he won in the first quarter it’s just so refreshing and then he’s violent and then he’s tenacious and the effort and everything like that um that’s a guy I loved watching this year um you know the talent you can probably debate but like man the film was just a ton of fun sometimes there’s just a prospect who you can watch six games of these cut-ups and just have no issues and that was certainly one of those guys so have to give a shout out to that yeah great call there the prospects that make you go you get to three games and you go let’s just do more let’s go find two three more games I don’t care if I have to hold off on watching somebody else latu is definitely won because the first game I watched was the game against USC where it felt like he made 25 different plays that game that was ridiculous um Gabriel Murphy has an excellent game against I think Oregon State or Oklahoma State one of those two State too yeah oh you know it’s Washington State there’s a state in there it’s a state it’s school and it was it was a fantastic watch he was great I think Ray Davis finding out the story of Ray Davis was fantastic so rooting for him the whole way um a lot of these guys I mean Joan Briggs the defensive line from Cincinnati fun watch and then you find out he’s a he’s a singer and he loves to sing for school like just just a really cool process and of course yeah just it’s it’s been fun yeah there’s always the guys who you like are sleepers who you think are like nice sleepers and then like they just crush the draft process and end up being like top 50 players consensus and you feel like man like I really f i really found something with this guy um you know like Rook I feel like was that for me was one of the first defensive tackles that I really liked and watched I actually watched him before Byron Murphy and then now he’s like consensus top 50 so um he was a ton he was a ton of fun to watch some of these Corners are great to watch because Corners can be so just such a drag um but yeah all right well uh the Chicago Bears are officially on the clock um the I missed it but there was like a ton of lions players out on the stage with Roger Goodell um Eminem was out there so seems like Detroit was all kinds of fired up but Chicago Bears on the clock at number one overall I feel like they could have just announced this like right away you all know this is gonna be cayb Williams so I guess the interesting thing here to watch is going to be how long exactly did the Bears take uh of this time yeah in the chat let us know when you think did the the pick will come in so it’s n9ine minutes and 18 seconds on my TV right now what do you think four minutes left four and a half minutes left let us know yeah four and a half five yeah you’re not gonna win anything but you can win uh bragging rights we’ll try to move through these super chats because we want to definitely clear them before we get to our pick from Craig follow for a long time uh love the content all the way from new from England not New England thanks for all the hard work you you guys put in neighbors or Odun for me thank you so much uh my parents went to England recently loved it neighbors or Odun would certainly be awesome um Aaron here Aaron woolly there’s a long history of Alabama offensive to being mediocre in the NFL what makes leam different love and appreciate you guys well I mean there’s also a history of them being like good players like I don’t think Jonah Williams is like I think he’s a he’s a fine player I think too early on Evan Neil um DJ Fluker managed to play 10 years in the NFL and he’s still trying to play back so sometimes it’s a lot of fit but I think there’s there’s an interesting thing about Al Alabama prospects in general you know some people think that they get like maxed out in college um so obviously I hope that’s not the case with JC leam if that is the choice of the Chargers I don’t think it will be um but the way that leam is described online for those who are like against the pick is as like a DJ Fluker 2.0 and Fluker was absolutely like a slow plotting you know doesn’t didn’t have a ton of like range and athleticism to his game he was like strictly power and strictly like violent and stuff like that a lot of people did project him in guard so there are some similarities there but I went and rewatched JC lean this week earlier this week before all the hype train can of came out and I was just really impressed with his range his ability to explode out of his stance his ability to get to the second level on run blocking plays so I think he is he didn’t test for whatever reason I think there are some injury stuff there but I think he is much more athletic than a lot of the guys and he’s definitely more powerful than like a Jonah Williams type as well yeah I’d agree so I guess the issue is I didn’t watch DJ Fluker and I didn’t watch Jonah Williams so I couldn’t tell you what the differences are I’ll Tell You by far in way and I don’t know how popular the opinion was it feels a bit revisionist history but we described Alex lewood as the as the nightmare scenario for the Chargers at 11 or back in day forget that he was a thing to be honest yeah now we thought okay this is a guy that should go in the second round so what’s the most nightmare thing they could do and we thought okay well maybe if Slater is not your type and you want some athletic whatever like go Leatherwood uh so we didn’t like him like I I I don’t I don’t genu generally do this if you guys have followed enough I don’t do this I I rarely throw out the lazy word I don’t want to say that someone is not playing hard all the way through but just watching him it was like ah I don’t know about this and then of course the Raiders took him and went okay you’re you’re this tackle you’re our guard you’re moving this side you’re moving that side it was just a bad process overall the Raiders could not develop they didn’t use him the like any particular good way so a really bad fit overall too yeah and a lot of these prospects it is landing spot but there were real effort concerns with Leatherwood he was probably I would say more athletic than leam didn’t have nearly the power that leam has like leam has extremely strong core to him and the torque ability the ability to anchor down against bull rushes I think he’s a different kind of level of Prospect and Evan Neil leam that’s probably more of a similar conversation um Neil not working out yet I don’t really know what’s going on there but the Giants have you know like cycle through offensive line coaches and stuff like that it’s been hardly an ideal situation for him yeah absolutely all right next one here from make the transition says he bought one gigabyte speed of internet just for today let’s go I love that dedication um and he says that JC leam would give him d DJ Fluker Deja vus well uh hopefully we just change your mind make the transition because I I do disagree with that take uh after having watched Fluker uh play his career with the Chargers yeah definitely you know as usual don’t Scout the helmet I if there’s s similarities in the prospect I wouldn’t know I didn’t watch Fluker but you know Ohio State quarterbacks don’t take them Oregon quarterbacks don’t take them and they’re they’re doing all right they’re two of the best six quarterbacks in the league right yeah uh Alo vente says thank you guys for all the amazing content all draft season appreciate it you guys rule so pumped to watch tonight I grew up in San Diego but now live in New England surrounded by filthy P fans oo that’s got to be tough although the Patriots obviously are not super good but as a middle schooler high schooler that would have been terrible for me yeah that’s rough at that point honestly if I were so he grew up in San Diego so he’s got his fandom if I were 12 13 and then I had to move to New England I probably just would being a Patriots fan which sucks but I I’ve always rooted for my local teams and at that point yeah yeah it’s kind of your local team yeah and especially if you’re young enough you know like nobody would have hold that that against him what right the pick is in so I think it was like just under four minutes glad I was paying attention uh Elon uh H BBE I think he changed the name or something but he says here’s a turning 30 Tyler we at the best point in our Phantom now I am 30 so congratulations to anybody else who’s approaching 30 but uh yeah for what it’s worth I’m approaching 29 and then I’ll be 30 so yeah you got another you got another 18 months right is yeah yeah so I’m a July birthday so I guess 15 about 15 months gotcha gotcha uh forgotten Lal again so when is Herbert to Minnesota trade dropping um he’s had that bit in the chat for some time so I appreciate the commitment to the bit forgotten um but yeah never obviously I loved Adam shef’s response to that when he was like there’s no chance in hell and I was like thank you Adam shefer a rare W from Adam shefer yeah Greenberg giveth and taketh I guess on that show but uh yeah last one here from Bolt Brett bolt Brett been with us for a while literally doing work like with us for us Etc Great Graphics uh we basically stole them when the harbon news dropped so thanks B Brett yep if we get a wide receiver after all y’all better do handstands I’ll let Stephen do this one I I’m not doing a handstand I will get a concussion if I try to do a handstand and I I do not want that all right sounds good but we’ll I I I’ll avoid the handstands uh on the live stream I want to make it through day three right I don’t need to go on IR oh is he announcing it for you yep chicag no way I’m kidding crazy people are booing them I love it because it’s in Detroit it’s fantastic I love I love it all right so the the the Chicago Bears just picked cayb Williams uh the Washington commanders are on the clock some minor Intrigue here um there’s been a lot of Jaden Daniels talk oh nice suit from cayb Williams tonight I I like that is that Adidas uh I don’t know but it has it’s a it’s like a double breasted suit and then it’s a zipper it zips down I like it looks cool yeah I’m too fat for that if you’re too fat for that I’m definitely too fat for that we’ll get matching suits when they win the Super Bowl how about that there we go there we go uh Roger gell also apparently had like back surgery recently and like people were like oh like he might not be able to hug the guys like who cares just give him the normal high five handshake anyways Washington Commanders here on the board at number two overall some minor Intrigue because there’s been some there was like that top golf thing and people like made a big deal about it his agent didn’t like the fact that they made them go to go to uh Top Golf so um I think this is gonna be Jayden Daniels but you know there is a little bit of uh like Drake May JJ McCarthy hype out there as well so will be interesting to see what the commanders do here I’d be intrigued by that we are almost a 2 viewers by the way I literally have eaten one piece I’m at this first piece of pizza granted I have to do a talking thing on this show so like I just sit here and stuff my face but yeah I I didn’t realize I bought this big of a cheese pizza and so uh well thanks guys thanks for making me eat this pizza I’m where did you uh where did you get the pizza from I don’t even remember it was on door Dash and I was like screw it I need pizza so I got a pizza from like a pizza to something all right is that it wasn’t like your favorite pizza spot or anything like that it was was like it looked like a good piece of pizza and I was like all right cool let’s do it going with that one we just maybe have the Chargers draft tackle tonight uh you guys here in the chat what are you eating SL drinking tonight while we uh wait for the commanders pick here so I I said this earlier I’m probably gonna door Dash Wing Stop later um we had you know we had pizza last weekend we had some friends over stuff like that so uh I’m GNA go with a Wing Stop later Nathan transition says that he’s eating F and pizza oh he’s asking what he should if you’re sick I think you should probably eat some f yeah have some of that throw some you know whatever you got to do in there uh yeah fuz is great when you’re sick that’s kind of a go-to yeah Pizza you have a favorite place down there uh there’s a place called there used to be one called well it’s close I guess it doesn’t really matter that was great because they would like actually like instead just throwing like the Bland Chicken in there they actually like prep it make it really good and like Grill it and like throw it in there so good um there’s a fans 55 over here um by us that’s pretty good so honestly though if it’s a place that sells F they’re generally about the same yeah you can just order some more things from some better spots yeah yeah somebody made Tai tum yum soup nice roast in the crock pot yeah so my my wife made pork shoulder we made tacos so I actually ate that was my dinner and this pizza is just my sustenance yeah yeah uh Russ Becker uh shout out Salt Lake City Utah sh shout out to the pie that’s the best pizza place I have ever been to and I miss that dearly every time we go to back to Utah me and Brooke always get the pie it’s the the best pizza that I’ve had probably in my life and there’s probably some Nostalgia and like home cooking Factor there as well so shout out Russ fell uton totally get that there’s a place Fountain Valley we all went to called Full Moon Sushi feel free to be a sponsor at any time guys it’s not it’s not even like the best sushi by any means but it was always really cheap but like solid Sushi and we just would always go there you get your California roll or whatever for like 350 or Philly roll or rainbow roll or whatever it was always so cheap so there’s something about just going to there and sitting at the old tables yes we’re already talking about we’re wrapping up to an offensive line pick here yeah yeah yeah oh man it’s uh it’s so funny to me how like I wonder who the first person was just like hey you know what sounds great during football some some chicken wings and now it’s just like Universal football food same thing with pizza like I don’t know interesting looks like the commanders are making a call to somebody so it looks like their pick is probably wrapping up soon okay sounds good pork shoulder Tacos yeah yeah yeah that sounds really good right now yeah had that threw the tortillas on the stove got them all heated up and good and then yeah so good and there’s plenty of leftovers you buy a big old pork shoulder oh yeah last you forever yeah lasts forever so it’s great so by Saturday H probably won’t be eating it by Saturday Caleb Williams throwing a Keenan Allen good luck buddy I got a root for or Keenan yeah but for for Caleb because uh throwing a Keenan all him to do well yeah it’s a it’s a great spot for a quarterback to land to I’m curious to see what they do with the ninth pick but it kind of does sound like they are going to trade that pick okay the commander pick is in um but man if they if they can get like Romo dun there too you get Caleb Williams Keenan Allen Roan dun and DJ Moore cooking with gas yeah absolutely they’re they’re in a good spot man I I don’t know how it’ll all turn out but they’ve done a really good job clearing things out and resetting I I hope for this for the Chargers in the next couple of years Ian Raper board’s talking what’s he talking about prob go back Jane danels never forgot that the command little were quter Dan Quin and Peters picked him up and he met straight with the owner he was back in very I don’t know no idea you could hear that y yeah that’s perfect okay 1,991 it’s almost my my birth year I think we’re at Stevens are you 94 94 yeah we’re so close we’re at 199 94 woo happy happy uh birth year buddy oh Washington in if you want to play it yep good L’s coming out is firstt you guys in chat can hear this pretty good let us know J all right did you watch quarterbacks this year uh just like in passing I I do not agree with this piig I would have taken Drake may but I I think anybody who has a jayen Daniels fan never really talked about his uh Tendencies to run into eight Defenders for no damn reason uh yeah yeah so I I would have taken Drake may but that’s just me looks like jamen Daniels just gave a big hug to Malik neighbors and to Marvin Harrison Jr so that’s fun it’s also funny to to me watching like jayen Daniels be this draft guy because when he was at Arizona I was or Arizona State I was I was never really like oh my gosh like this is a future like NFL guy I was like he’s fine but yeah he threw for uh there was a game against Utah he threw for 25 yards he was like four of 20 and ran and threw for 25 yards and Arizona state had like negative 100 yards of total offense that day so that’s fun that’s great can’t think of any quarterbacks who have faced Utah not done well and then gone second overall weird weird I I think Daniels is better than Zack Wilson for what it’s worth but yeah I do too definitely definitely better than Zach Wilson yeah I I probably would have had like if you’re tiering it I would have had Caleb and Drake in the same tier Drake has second then I would have had Jaden Daniels in probably his own tier as qb3 and then everybody else after that I feel like I mean I hope McCarthy is is somebody that can be traded up for uh for the Chargers sake but I never really understood that conversation to me him and B knck are like the same quarter rack just once younger gotcha I guess Zion and Slater at a draft party they probably want to tackle yeah Derwin is there too or at least in an interview with Chris Harry I I guess and said that he wants a wide receiver or and at least endorses a wide receiver uh Super Chat from Tim Stewart please don’t crucify me if we draft Blake Corum and I am excited really just depends on when Tim is also a Michigan fan so I I I get it so is arjin he’s like no thank you that’s because arjin is an analytics guy and Blake cor is like literally the worst running back in the draft from a data perspective I don’t think he would have taken bejan Robinson at a 100 because because of Analytics so he’ have gone from CB 18 so no I get it man I mean he’s you know if you’re a Michigan fan and you’re also a Chargers fan you know I completely understand but I just think like this team cannot afford to take a running back until day three like they have way too many needs um and if you’re gonna take a Michigan player just take like one of the better ones like take Junior Coulson or Mikey Zer still or Junior Coulson please yeah all right getting some Jayden Daniels highlights to uh oh was Arizona State highlights we’re starting with yeah yeah got touch and accuracy yeah there’s Malik neighbors destroying for his second touch down over I believe dick Mary and Robinson or Richardson Richardson excuse me yeah yeah man this dude the number two on LSU also the wide receiver he can play too man like that’s that’s the other thing is like this guy had three legit top guys to throw to so should be interesting all right Patriots here at number three pick is in pick is in already oh okay we’re coming down to the down to the crunch time here then if the pick is already in for the Patriots this if the pick is in that quickly that means that they love one of these other guys so again I would take Drake May here but there was like a little patriots JJ McCarthy talk earlier today as well so we’ll see this is I mean people have said this is where the the draft begins and then we’re gonna be the worst next 10 minutes of our life all right so rap report saying the Vikings try to trade up Patriots sticking and picking a quarterback here okay just to make the things I just cuz I don’t want to see it in the chat let’s I’m going to get rid of I’m not looking at the chat anymore it is going to be as it happens yeah yeah um again please do not spoil piics I’m probably delayed because I’m watching it on to I’m watching it on my iPad but uh you know especially when the Chargers get on the on the clock please do not spoil sounds good almost there see the pig I can’t believe the pick is already in congratulations um it’s because our former fan moved to New England thanks for rushing that in for us so we didn’t have to wait for too long yeah I appreciate you I forgot that Joe clatt does the NFL Draft covers now yeah I he popped on the screen I’m like wait what I I didn’t know that he was going to be part of this broadcast but I’m off for it oh man coming down the stretch here you guys and Goodell’s walking out for me all right least we’re about to hear who the latest New England Patriot is with the third Pi in the 2024 NRI okay all right JJ McCarthy watch has begun JJ McCarthy watch has begun unfortunately the league did not fill he was quarterback one now here we go with potentially the best or worst 10 minutes of Our Lives yes waiting for the the the Cardinals to give the Cardinal such a good weapon they’ll never need Matt Prader again I think he is not their kicker for what it’s worth I think he’s finally done he’s done all he needed to they built him a statue yeah they built him a statue all right so uh yeah this is officially JJ McCarthy watch I you know we’ll see if a team is able to come up to number four we’ll see if the Cardinals end up moving off of pick number four uh we have 2100 of you guys here in the chat now so appreciate you um again tonight’s draft coverage is presented by our friends over at prize picks best and easiest way to use daily fantasy sports prize.com guilty codeg guilty checkout you will be hearing prize picks mentioned a few times tonight because that’s what we’ve been instructed to do so shout outs prize picks appreciate the uh the partnership it’s like it’s almost like my my brain ran out of thoughts now that we’re here yeah yeah it’s just anticipation it’s nervous anticipation it’s I like this morning I was like I’ll be fine like I’m not gonna get like too excited or worked up and here I am I’m like literally like shaking at what’s H about to happen so um I guess my gut feeling right now is that the Cardinals stick and pick Marvin yeah but uh if Ian raport comes back on and talks about I will play his little bit here and then uh yeah we’ll have some fun another quarterback prospect that I really liked into the AFC so that’s fun yeah least yeah no if Caleb Williams had gone to I don’t know who needs a team in the quarterback in the AFC well the Raiders or the Broncos wouldn’t have been great well good for uh good for Mayo good for that new regime I it’s different like it’s not I hate the Patriots but it’s like it’s not really the same thing anymore that’s all generally been torn down so I just kind of Hope new I hope new regimes do well yeah uh have you been paying attention to like the Robert Craft like Bill bich stuff this year only in the headlines and kind of in passing but yeah lovely lovely situation yeah I I don’t understand like how it got to this point but like Robert Craft just like bashing Bill bich and telling people not to hire him like that’s pretty crazy to me yeah that’s rough I mean obviously things weren’t great but I don’t know I guess maybe bill can be I’m sure he’s a difficult person to work with but yes H thank you everyone for shouting out the jacket I was going to wear another one that’s a bit heavier but this felt like a nice easy jacket to throw on yeah I thought about putting on a jacket or something but it is like a little warm here in fres so decided not to do yeah I’m cranking on the AC soon I’ll be sweating out the next the Chargers pick for sure uh any final bold predictions if if leam you know came out of nowhere right what else could we potentially be looking at bold predictions for like the draft in general oh I mean the Chargers at five oh chargers at five no I I think it’s pretty straightforward I think they try and trade back if they don’t I think they’ll take well I mean we don’t know officially what the Cardinals are doing yet but I haven’t seen anything from eort looks like they’re potentially not trading so yeah I I think it’s pretty straightforward I really do I think it is it looks like the pick is in pick is in for the Cardinal so no trade for the Arizona Cardinals W Marvin buddy the Jersey the Jersey swaps of you were fantastic uh I loved you in Chargers blue and gold in photos in photos yeah I’ll always remember those three seconds I thought Prader was gonna make that field goal Chief’s backup quarterback was going to be my New Jersey of choice yeah dude I’ll never forget like I was standing up while the Chargers were playing with all their backups watching the Cardinals game hoping that the Cardinals would win um didn’t so that that was a fun one but yeah man the the the all the swaps of Marvin to the Chargers they were certainly fun yeah all right so now with the pick in Shake in yeah the pick’s in so we know who it’s going to be so now it’s really going to come down to trade back or stick and pick and let’s see so at least McCarthy is there y so that’s good but we’ll see we I we I’ve asked every guest we’ve had on is the McCarthy stuff real who’s the guy that’s really not going to be a part of this quarterback group because there’s always somebody so we’ll see Good’s gonna walk out and um yeah well it’s been real all come and announce what the Cardinals decided to do by sing and picking while the Chargers are already a minute and a half their clock with pick in the 2024 NFL draft the Arizona cardino sounds good like chalk so far one through four yeah in my opinion I guess the Draft starts now even though the draft Starts Now Char are two minutes on the clock sweat is happening now the anxiety is real uh yes I’m going to you can go ahead and say it I’m going to put it in the chat you don’t spoil the pick for everybody else I guess people watching ABC they’re ahead that’s fine like we’ll be on NFL Network because it’s you know NFL Network reminders to not spoil the picks in the chat wait uh since Marvin’s not a charger I guess we can like talk about him for a minute here uh if you do not read the Beast I strongly encourage you to do that from Dane bugler um Marvin Harrison Jr was the 16th ranked Prospect in Ohio State’s 2021 class 16 Pro 16 high school recruits that were graded higher than Marvin Harrison Jr so that’s crazy to me never made any sense um Wishing Well in Arizona he is the best wide receiver Prospect I have ever studied would have loved him on the Chargers because he’s just awesome yeah um okay I’m going to at this point I’m in our private chat just in case we need it yep ready for anything and everything ladies and gentlemen it’s been real I will not be buying the mark feel free and uh drop your predictions if you want to then run and then run but yeah man I think we’re probably about four minutes in at this point in time maybe five so hopefully we get uh Ian Raper on here soon to announce the trade down otherwise the Chargers will be sticking and picking at number five whenever the uh Chargers do announce their pick we uh have a slideshow for you guys of course and we’ll have some breakdown of the actual pick what it means some relevant information from the Beast should be a lot of fun hopefully it’s a pick that we all like yeah find out pretty soon um okay final prediction Stephen I’m not looking at the chat I have no idea what’s happening so my TV muted yeah I have no idea I I’m hoping that a trade is about to happen if they stick and pick I think it’s joal yeah I I can’t tell if too much with leam so late feels right so is it wrong to ignore everyone saying leam if the charer stick and pick but right either way if they stick and pick uh we’ll see and are you completely out on the neighbors in terms of predictions by the way we’re at 2500 people I appreciate you guys I I think if it’s a receiver here I think they take Odun I do I think Odun is more their Type U I think he checks more boxes for them fits a need fits a style and you know it stands the reason that they would have these two players creaded pretty similarly so I think this is Odun or Joe alt if they stick and pick so the pick is still not in at least according to NFL Network so maybe Joe Ortiz is is uh working the phones yeah I’m keeping an eye on it in case Ian rappero jumps on here but doing Marvin Harrison Junior highlights how nice and there’s a lot he’s so good oh man okay so no showing some uh there’s 4 minutes and 18 seconds left for the Chargers on the clock looks like yeah yeah so they are they’re probably filling offers I’d imagine yeah taking a good while showing the crowd right now four minutes officially left on the clock for the Chargers that crowd seems bigger than the first day at Vegas yeah oh yeah that looks like a huge crowd arjent said that he actually what I just went to commercial oh yeah paint manning always always on the draft as the Chargers are about to pick they go to commercial um but yeah arjent said that they actually were like were not able to get in really yeah I think they like had too many people shut down huh I said do they know who he is half of his ear made the Chargers highlight video are you on Commercial you’re on Commercial yeah I’m on I’m on Commercial on NFL Network okay uh we have 20 2500 almost 26 00 people in the chat appreciate you guys uh we are three minutes on the clock left on the clock I should say we are on commercial on NFL Network I don’t know about the other networks but NFL network is on Commercial currently yeah whatever’s about to happen I think the player will be good good news is the player will be good we just have preferences but um if the Chargers take JC leam here I know like the value isn’t great but like he’s perfect for this team in terms of what they want he’s in a great situation you know I I do believe that they will be able to get the most out of him yeah two minutes and 30 seconds wow they’re really taking this okay there’s also like a commercial still happening so like yeah I’m two seconds back from commercial no how do I hit skip on this TV okay now they’re showing an NFL plus commercial with last year’s draft in it that’s helpful oh two minutes left way down he’s in all the clock that’s gotta because they’re working a trade I would hope yeah I mean I’m yeah I’m under two minutes at this point there’s 142 comments 143 comments that I have not read because I’m on the our private chat on streamyard so I’m just staring at the one comment I sent you about slides one minute and 40 seconds still on the clock hey Chargers when I said move down I didn’t mean because you got your pick skipped oh wait no never mind sorry still on commercial break also still on commercial break which maybe has part of it the pick is in they are sticking and picking the pick is in I don’t see that oh pick is in [ __ ] [Laughter] I’m stressed out you guys I told myself I was not going to be stressed out and I am stressed out I I’m anxiously but like excitedly waiting this pick that’s that’s how I’m that’s how I feel right now but we’ll see I’m St you know what’s funny is they’re showing the Justin Herbert 20 touchdown passes in 2022 remember when it was like 25 on betting or something and we’re like no way bet the over on that one there’s no way he’ll have less than 25 had 20 and he missed like six games mhm again pleas the Chargers are picking here so please do not spoil here I know I’m probably behind on the iPad stream but you know it is what it is I don’t know when they showed that draft room but that’s a dead draft room right now yeah I don’t know when that’s from maybe it’s much earlier but okay so first they’re going to show us about them treating traing away Keenan all to the Bears thanks for the reminder and now and then first they show us Keenan being traded then they show us the Quinton Johnson selection here’s the fans then Zion so uh is I don’t want to hear what Daniel Jeremiah’s saying you don’t okay no just they’re showing his board so he has again like him he has o dun over neighbors but uh we’ll see so he’s got joal number eight leam is not in his top 14 at least I think he was 17 for for DJ yeah he has Odun neighbors Bowers alt Arnold fanga fanu as the next best players here I is Jared verse not that high okay okay here comes Goodell with San Francisco Jim hargh in the first round firsto as a Char see you brother the2 NFL all right not a all right so they went with Joe Al here it was only a surprise if he’d follow the lean thing recently yeah definitely to get them sticking and picking and definitely was a receiver guy um so yeah joal is a charger I think that they went with the best offensive tackle available and that’s good like I I think that maybe leam some of that discussion was them trading down and getting leam but here um they stock they probably couldn’t get they they took that pick for quite a while so they were probably trying to fi better offers they didn’t get what they wanted and so they went with Jo Walt so you want to pull up the stuff yeah just uh real quick I want to just kind of discuss it for a bit so I I think there was a lot of you know saying like people were going to take JC leam and then like it’s not best player available Geor is lying well them taking Joe Al over JC leam to me is a strong indicator that they really had an extremely high grade on Joe alt playing offensive tackle for the Los Angeles Chargers so uh Joe hertiz in my opinion stays true to his word he was the highest graded player on their board um and and listen like I think there’s going to be a lot of people here in the chat I’m sure that are are not having a great time with an offensive tackle but it’s the best offensive tackle that to me was the preference if they were gonna stick and pick and take an offensive tackle Joe Al was that guy he is the best offensive tackle in this class um he’s not the same level of prospect as Marvin Harrison Jr but joal is a high firstr graded Prospect for me I ended up with him at six overall on my board um so this is definitely an identity pick this is definitely a culture pick this is a toughness pick and Joel’s gonna flip sides and play right tackle I would assume and be able to anchor down the right side of the offensive line uh for the next 10 years hopefully with ran Slater so all the JC leam stuff turns out that they were just interested in the best offensive lineman available and joal is that guy yep that’s I guess the good news here right joal was me for me off no Prospect number five on the board so in terms of the pick like it’s it’s spoton um the transition to the right side will be interesting the good news is and Duke manyweather has pointed out he’s very consistent uh in his in his film his film is actually boring and I said that like you’re gonna get what you’re gonna get I think he is the safest pick of the offensive lineman the r is one of the best of all time the work with Duke manyweather is great the PBE is great the health generally speaking is fantastic so this and the coaching staff is fantastic like they’re going to get the most out of him you know we the charges will be in a good spot with all there’s nothing wrong with joal the selection I think they’re gonna have a great path for him I think he’s going to develop into a very very good player and justify being selected at five it really just all comes down to and I will not shy away from the criticism and skepticism is this better than taking a receiver at five yeah or taking one of what could have been a trade down offer for Lam Etc but um yeah joal it’s kind of anticlimactic at that point but it’s um it’s a good player and now it’s time to see if it’ll pay off yeah he uh the Giants pick is already in so I I think they’re going to go wide receiver here maybe JJ McCarthy but we’ll see how it goes but at the end of the day like like Jim Harbaugh wants oh we’ve passed 3,000 viewers also now fun fact wow um Jim Harbaugh wants to be wants to be a physical team like the that every single move to this point has shown that they are going to be a physical team and protecting Justin Herbert that’s been a a a high priority uh for the this Chargers regime as well and uh joal definitely does that so my favorite thing about Joe Al that I watched him on tape is his ability to protect the corner and what that means is basically like not allowing the opposing Edge rushers to get around you on your outside shoulder and this is a guy who’s gonna have to face Max Crosby twice a year this the guy who’s gonna have to face a bunch of these quality pass rushers every team has two quality pass rushers these days and now you have Slater and Joe alt and I understand I also wanted wide receiver but now you have two potentially Elite offensive tackles to protect Justin Herbert run the football take pressure off of him mhm I understand the wide receiver stuff but if you look just at the offensive line you have Slater Zion alt you find your center of the future later on oh looks like the pick is in for the Giants okay very good yeah that’s not a fun situation for a wide receiver D quarterback that’s certainly one way to feel like you’re right about Malik neighbors is to have them go to the Giants yeah yeah so I I understand why people are upset about the wide receiver position I think at the end of the day the Chargers viewed this as a basically competitive rebuild and they just wanted to take their best player and ALT was not my best player he wasn’t Tyler’s best player the guy just drafted was our best player um but the Chargers have an identity they wanted to protect Justin Herbert they want to run the football and Joe Al does that so I have zero concerns about him playing the right side of the offensive line and we can kind of share our slides a bit um why was he the selection I think Harbaugh loves the trenches and you know we we’ve seen that come to fruition now alt was the offensive tackle number one on on pretty much every board uh you know across the way offensive lineman number one and then OT options who fit the Harbaugh and Ortiz mold are pretty scarce like we talked about earlier after round one um and then Tyler has on here you know safer Prospect is pass walking efficiency uh rating on FF 99 plus uh his Gap run blocking grade was really really high Elite R so you know the bloodline here his father his father was a 13-year Pro Bowl offensive tackle for the Chiefs so I understand if you wanted wide receiver I did too but Joe Al is a great pick here for the identity of what the Chargers are doing and I think he is really really safe really high four Prospect and you know I’m excited to see what it looks like with him and Ron Slater protecting Justin Herbert all for the next hopefully the next eight to 10 years yeah as am I uh part of maximizing Justin Herbert is also keeping him on the field and Herbert has had significant injuries several years in a row now even his rookie season he got banged up a little bit but um you got to keep him on the field and the good news is like they didn’t go with leam who was definitely not the better pass protector here so we’ve discussed alt quite a bit um The Trenches the fit the safe Prospect stuff everything thing there’s not a ton to dislike about Jo Walt there’s a ton to love about Jo Walt it just comes down to um again the the selection the difference there and we can get into the the depth chart at what that means for for day two I’ve kind of been half working over here because I’m trying to um I got you we can finish some of this stuff from the Beast too um this is if You’ listened to danne Brugler talk about uh Joe Al throughout this process you know his dad being an offensive lineman but his dad didn’t just pigeon hole him into playing offensive line growing up he was actually like a quarterback a tight end and a defensive end in high school he didn’t play offensive lineman until he got to Notre name and so this is a guy who still is on the rise he still is a prospect who can continually get better um and I think you know his ability to switch over to the right side like this isn’t a guy who’s just been left tackling high school left tackling College he doesn’t have any kind of positional versatility he was initially Notre Dame’s swing tackle as a freshman and then uh he played in some you know heavy packages as a tight end and when Blake fiser actually got injured that’s when he became the left tackle and then he was so good that he just stayed there so this is a guy who’s taken highend coaching this is a guy who’s taken a transition to the left tackle right tackle looks like the pick for the Titans is in right now as well um but joal checks a ton of is obviously he’s the pick here and people are still mad about the wide receiver thing I get it they can take a wide receiver on on day two tomorrow and we can kind of talk about that next year so no surprise here with the dep chart analysis like we Slater Johnson Boseman for now Soler for now at Right Guard and then Jo Walt will switch to right tackle I haven’t seen anything from the media that suggests ran would switch I doubt they would come out and say that I doubt that’s going to happen but I haven’t I guess seen anything officially confirm that now comes down to what you do on day two I’m curious if they have any interest in trading back into the first round for one of these wide receivers could they give up that fourth round pick trade up to the 49ers jump the Chiefs for a wide receiver does that happen the other question of course and I have it here is what how how committed to the bit are the Chargers with offensive line because you could very much say like if you can bench Trey pipkins and all he’s making you could bench Jamari sawer who was not a Perfect Right Guard last season things weren’t great now maybe they feel the AL all your pairing is really strong there so they’ll stick with it but they could very very much so just go hey let’s continue with this offensive line revamp and replace Jamari Soler as well so it’s I don’t know if you can relegate that many players to the bench but if they find in round three that Cooper BB sitting there or Christian Haynes they could pull the trigger there so if they go Corner in round two like I’m not entirely certain that they’ll go receiver in round round three I know Daniel popper had receiver with Tess Walker in round three but uh yeah we’ll see I I’m very curious how much they’re going to commit to this Argent tweeted out a live reaction video is it the faux one no no no uh I think it was a real one uh I don’t think he’s pretty I don’t think he’s very happy about it yeah he has his hands on his head in the video so there you go he’s wearing his Derwin James jersey so that he wore to the draft in Vegas so oh nice all right pick us in for the Titans um yeah so day two I think that’s the trade down spot I would love to see them be able to you know accumulate some assets there and being able to trade down at 37 um be able to get a wide receiver get a defensive tackle and you know figure out a way to uh you know fill in the rest of this depth chart so I think the next offensive lineman is probably on on day three be able to take somebody who can play Center because I think you know this is your this is your starting my tackle well I just saw the Titans pick on accident because I’m now on social media there you go so unfortunately from B Bret no handstands for wide receiver but no hand stands for wide receiver let me see uh arin’s yeah and hey man listen like I again I I completely understand I want a wide receiver but this offensive line group it’s a ton of talent man you get three first round picks maybe Jamari hits maybe you sign somebody else in free agency maybe you get the next you know day two guy play right right guard for you need to Center the future but this offensive line group is is probably the strength of their team outside of the edge rushers so I think that was probably the goal here again is you know build up the offensive line and at least have the floor of being able to protect Herbert onun the football and that was clearly the uh identity for and so now I think we also I didn’t put that here I think they’re going to address receiver in free agency there’s no doubt there like that is going to happen um I don’t share a ton but like I’ve been told they want to try to carry 10 receivers into Camp so they have four so I think they’re G to go ahead add a few um now that includes like undrafted free agents Etc so they could take two in the draft sign one in free agency a couple of undrafted free agency and get pretty close to that but they are going to have at least they’d like to have that number of bodies so 10 that’s they want 10 they got a they got some work to do they have some work to do um they’ve certainly brought in a couple different players I’m curious if they would even double dip in free agency at those players considering like mvs and exactly like DJ Char and exactly like Tyler Boyd and hey Higgins wants out so maybe they go that route too they’re not goingon to do that auk does too so yeah yeah I think um we’ll talk a bit here after the giant after the Titans pick about like some potential fits and stuff like that but yeah yeah man I I I’m not like super excited but I I’m not mad I knew this was a possibility I think this is a good pick High floor pick and one that will be able to set the tone for the charters yeah for sure as we get closer to the end of the draft definitely sorry JC whoa so there were some serious Buzz obviously about him going in the top 10 that’s for sure all right JC leam at seven W JC leam at seven the Titans also committed to their offensive line because I definely would have taken our GRE there that oh okay yeah depends they that was a worse kept secret I think than the charter taking a tackle they literally needed one and you get Callahan for a reason dad Callahan that is uh Jimmy’s asking for still not spoiling picks try not to um we’ll just play him as we go through here Titans are pissed alt was gone so yeah I mean Joe Al of the Titans was easily like the most frequently mocked pick throughout this entire process yeah and if you the if you’re the Titans you know you definitely would have rather had all over leam but yeah so Jorge Rodriguez points out the run on tackles yeah the fact that leam already went this High not that like two tackles going this high as a surprise but the fact that Lam’s already gone it’s kind of what I pointed out so when I did the the thought exercise of why you should take joal at five which I’m so glad I wrote now if you look at the top 100 on the consensus board it’s Jordan Morgan who’s a guard Kings Lamaya who’s not their kind of tackle Patrick Paul who’s kind of their fit didn’t watch the Y tackle Blake Fischer and that’s it for the top 100 you can include Rosen Garden not quite a fit yeah so yeah there’s going to be a run on tackles clearly and there there should be like six or seven to go in round one depending on how you feel about like falanu and fanga so yeah who knows them almost killed Goodell I missed it yeah I missed it as well if you recovering from back surgery that’s not the person you want hugging you I’ll give you that much oh yeah Joel wasn’t at the draft and it’s not really an offensive lineman thing I know like Joel I know JC lean was there but it’s not really a thing you know nah Brandon’s asking if the pick is in for eight I don’t have that but we’re slightly behind I do not have that yet man people are upset in the mentions right now the good news is this was so much telegraphed some sort of offensive lineman that uh you know we had some time to process this that’s for sure I mean you guys talking about JC leam last night so yeah and going to bed yeah calling a night like to pick good night friends appreciate it make the transition I know he’s in a foreign country so yeah get that sleep uh Brett says guys o isn’t that fun to swap it is for me I’m just kidding but serly I get it you got to do it uh Mario Williams now we have a 9 million doll backup sick what are we doing get her a playmaker identity doesn’t win you games uh I think Michigan would beg to differ there I know it’s college but I think lack of identity definitely can lose you games so I think the Eagles have made a killing over the last few years of having a true identity of offensive line and run the football and listen like if you wanted Jim Harbaugh this is what you get this is what we signed up for you know the Chargers offensive lineman was pretty unrolling last year you know taking another off first round offensive tackle another step in the right direction of of riding that ship so uh protect Herbert run the ball play action you can find receivers elsewhere it is what it is Chargers want to want to do it their way and this is their way yeah Sam worst wide receiver room in the league no one to throw to can’t wait to see Gus Edwards run into ninan boxes every game [ __ ] inexcusable thank you for the Super Chat though yeah thank you for the super chat um I wouldn’t say inexcusable if they had reached for like okay the pick is in for the Falcons if they had reached for like fanu at five I would have been like what are we doing here but yeah Jo was the very clearcut best offensive lineman in the draft and uh you know I totally get it on that note Tyler if you have to pick one wide receiver at 37 is that lad makoni for you um okay let me so part of it also depends on what they’re looking for the best receiver that’s likely or at least could be available there for me is lad makoni but I would understand if their kind of usage would go with someone like pulk Roman Wilson’s a very obvious match there and the way that he was moved around at Michigan it’s kind of like rookie piol kind of like lad makoni those Deployable options h they’re kind of in a different tier but makoni I think is my number one option there sorry is is speaking we’re about to speak [Music] ATA what what you just s Kur cousins to like a $200 million how old is Michael penx again 24 so he’ll be oh my gosh 27 by the time he starts wow okay what on Earth huh I am stunned their defense is so bad it’s I mean obviously obviously quarterback is the position but like Michael penck here is a top 10 selection While You Paid Kirk that much money so you’re not even going to get the rookie contract well no you’re not GNA get the rookie contract thing because Kirk is playing two years a minimum M wow whoa who’s the head coach Morris Rahe Morris yeah oh I mean I guess penx is kind of like Stafford but wow I think this is like one of the most shocking picks I’ve ever experienced yeah when when you pay the someone that much money so I get if they trade it back second round you you have to prepare for the situation of of KK going down moving on from him Etc I think my dad’s unhappy because the Raiders need a quarterback he was he was thinking round two for someone like maybe so yeah I I’m I I I need to go look on Twitter and see what like damsky and these guys are thinking about uh wow that is crazy man if I’m the Chicago Bears here I’m absolutely trading out now they they can pick Rumbo dun I think that wide AI room yeah Michael penx is going to start his first game at age 27 yeah I mean and and if he doesn’t you’re just burning a hole in your pocket with Kurt Cousins I just new regime you go get cousins and then your Bridge is a guy who will be 27 when he starts or Kurt Cousins gets hurt and you’re burning a hole in your cap with a quarterback who’s not playing if you’re G to take a quarterback why don’t you have just taken McCarthy at least McCarthy is 21 MH wow pick is in for the Bears already I mean Brad said there’s gonna be chaos I was definitely not expecting this no not at all hello to all my side visitors all your what oh I was reading the people are watching reading the why draft Jo aled 5 article so can’t think of why oh oh on right now on your yeah yeah yeah I was just kind of curious nice uh some other super chats here Joe Cruz the pick is fine and harau we trust Herbert needs a bodyguard and now he has one we can get plenty of wide receivers now he has a few of them which I think is kind of the point there yeah this is the most investment the offensive line has had in quite some time even with the best line of the rivers years I mean how many I there can’t imagine there were three first rounders no I think the Chargers have taken like five offensive linemen in the first round and three of them are on this current team yeah so yeah he’s got and joal is is a big bodyguard he’s he’s a rare guy that will make Justin Herbert look a little short because he’s 69 yeah that’s uh it’s gonna be really funny because Ran’s like 62 and a half and then joal is 69ine so uh veteran State of Mind the allinger behind you is just adding to the pain yes it is it is um the good news is we’re trying to protect that person so that’s good yeah if I mean listen they kept Keenan and you draft jalt at five would mean cooking with gas cooking with gas baby all right here’s good out for the Bears it’s in the 2024 NFL draft the Chicago May yeah yeah man that wide receiver room is sick so Brock Bowers to the Jets next yeah ah unless fashion knew was a surprise to them I could see a lot of jets guys have plugged uh fanu to them because he can play anywhere I wouldn’t be wouldn’t be shocked there back toback Washington huskys latu latu is dapping up everybody who gets drafted find yourself with latu latu as a friend what a good guy man Romo dun Keenan Allen and DJ Moore Caleb Williams Caleb’s definitely winning rookie of the year yeah especially if the Bears find a way oh they don’t have a second round pick right no but I mean you get two of the most valuable positions in the league I think you’re you’re good there dang yeah I mean it’s you know these guys will be favored so Malik neighbors is going to the Giants he’s not winning it respectfully Odun basically can’t win it with the Caleb Williams um on that team Michael penx is not playing he’s not playing yeah Drake May is in a terrible situation that’s awful yeah I mean Caleb Williams it’s Caleb or Marvin because I think J also not in a great situation um man that’s uh good for the Bears yeah unfor TR huh I trade that means theet are trading down the Vikings are at 10 now they moved up one spot for JJ McCarthy what’s the point of that just stay at a oh somebody else must have been calling in to so okay let me look at the the draft for because I don’t remember who these guys are on the teens oh I guess if you’re trying to jump the Raiders that’s true we very Michigan this is this is JJ then has to be 100% yeah okay so the Jets get 11 129 and 157 for 10 and 203 I missed it sorry what was that again uh the trade details number 11 fourth and fifth rounders to the Jets and then the Jets send 10 and pick 203 which is a seventh rounder I believe yeah probably sure so they’ll take so the good news is the Vikings which it has to be a quarterback they’ve taken a quarterback out of Shawn Payton’s hands and out away from the Raiders uhhuh so the the Jets are going to trade back and still get their guy for kind of nothing maybe the JS trade down again they could they should they don’t have that Pi so they get two mid- round pcks two third is a sixth round pick which is like the basically basically it’s 10 swapping 10 and 11 for a fourth round pick and then like a pick swap basically of six and five yeah for one spawn that’s pretty good yeah and G up a quarterback who cares like yeah yeah I mean if you’re the Vikings you get to keep 23 now get your quarterback you’re in you’re in a good spot no the have this beautifully yeah and now McCarthy enters the chat for rookie of the year because OK connell’s gonna get him I mean Justin Jefferson just does he play though McCarthy yeah they AR I I don’t know if they’re entrenched but I could see them playing darnold for like eight games all right while while the pick’s waiting dlan’s asking who’s still available for wide receiver do you want to run through any I don’t know if he’s asking for the whole the round one guys or just yeah I mean uh round one is is Brian Thomas Jr for sure um Adonai Mitchell as Alex katson talked about yesterday is is kind of off some teams boards I don’t know if that was completely or just like in the first round um so if Adonai is not also in the first round you know I think Xavier worthy goes round one just because he’s fast but I think so I don’t know if we answered your question earlier I think for the Chargers I I do think that so Jaylen pulk is my highest graded receiver not named Brian Thomas but I do think pulk and Palmer is a little redundant so I would lean more towards Ricky peol I would lean more towards lad makoni I think I I know people like really sleeping on lad but I think lad would be a great compliment to who they have so you could get lad and then you could go sign like marz valz scantling and yeah it’s not like amazing wide receiver room but you have a functional X receiver in Josh Palmer you know maybe Quenton Johnson takes a step you have lad you have a highend speed threat in Marquez valz scantling that’s functional with a great offensive line and a running game yeah Jorge is asking Taj Washington or lad makoni definitely lad makoni yeah Taj is like a Taj is like a round four guy for me yeah that he like same range as Darius Davis kind of kind of player different reasons but yeah um lad makoni man I’m talking about I’m gassing of a player the Chargers haven’t picked that might not even be available at 37 yeah true he could go he could see in the round one yeah I mean and I would hate him going to the Chiefs yeah but makoni to me I just love the way he has a sort of like shadow box way of beating press or hands on him very calculated you know some could argue maybe it’s a little bit too much off the line but they said that about Garrett Wilson I think he’s fine he’s doing right he’s doing all right he’s just has a nuanced way of getting open that would far exceed Quinton Johnston um so yeah I mean I think he’d be a tremendous pick man lots of people talking about switching teams and stuff like that my goodness again they did they did take a good player it’s just up to whether you believe that was right one and this to me by the way like if people are wondering this does not feel like Quinton Johnston for me like Quinton John all not at all was like a he was like in the 30s my wide receiver five I had him ranked higher but you you had him ranked lower technically as your wide receiver four but you you had him in like the 30s or 40s or something yeah like last year last year’s draft class was just bad like it it was flat out bad yeah you had like I think last year I had like 10 first round grades and then it just it just fell off a cliff so yeah that was just kind of the nature of the Beast of being 21 last year would have been a great year to trade up for the Chargers but or take a tight end but whatever um so if it’s not receiver in round two Tyler are there anybody any guys you like in round three or round four because I mean that would be tough but I think it is a possibility that they wait until round three or four so what would your choices be there yeah that would definitely be tough we’ll see how some of these guys get pushed so I’m gonna assume out of round two maki’s gone p is gone Mitchell’s gone leg’s gone at least two of Wilson and worthy Coleman maybe slides I just don’t think that’s where they’d want to go yeah so now you’re looking at like Troy Franklin Javon Baker TZ Walker Malachi Corley that kind of range Corley I think is wiped out by the Quenton Johnston existence just Quenton at minimum is your Yak guy and he should have should have been that so like Baker Walker those are your two and Franklin your two best vertical yeah threats with speed yeah I forget what Baker ran but he works vertically very well he fits what they’d want yeah he was like a four fiveish guy Walker’s Walker’s the fastest for sure Franklin I’m very nervous about but if we’re talking round three that I’m I’m one board I’m on board there um yeah again McMillan’s a yak guy who has a bit down the field but like Corley McMillan are out there I don’t think you take Malik Washington so then you re okay so round four you recalibrate Jamari thrash I’d get we took them in our mock last night and IA Smith for Yak we talked about Smith being a pretty not Malik neighbors but your best option at Yak later on and uh yeah yeah but we’ll see so I think for me like stylistically it just kind of depends what they want so if they want an ex receiver in round two that’s probably Xavier Legette okay so the Vikings did just take JJ McCarthy what a great situation for him oh yeah great spot F at Justin Jefferson down there somewhere a cute doggy oh how nice um yeah so I think for for X receiver you’re really only talking about Xavier Legette in round two and he might not even be there and then Javon Baker to me is an X so you could draft one of those two players and then like I mentioned you go sign a Tyler Boyd to play the slot you go sign marz Val scaning to be your Z and then you kind of fill out the room that way so it just there’s some stylistic options but the X receiver if they want that specific role filled it’s obviously much were difficult at this point without Marvin or Roman dun all right we’ll get to some of these other super chats here Shawn Reynolds could pipkins possibly play next to alt on the right side and keep Soler as swing I think pipkins is your swing tackle yeah and I think they I understand like $9 million for a swing tackle is is a lot but that’s a pretty good problem to have as opposed to Foster Shell at swing tackle so I think pipkins is firmly an offensive tackle I would have have some issues with him playing guard I don’t think he is like short area quick enough to play guard and I don’t think he’s like the most powerful individual either so I think I think pipkins is your swinging tackle and I think I and then next year you kind of evaluate you potentially trade him or cut him or whatever but yeah I think sawer is Your Right Guard right now and we’ll see if they address that elsewhere odds that uh Trey pipkins is someone the Raiders be interested in um I wouldn’t be shocked they do need a right tackle they do and I think if you’re the Chargers and you can get like a fifth round pick okay Jets pick is in um if you can get like a fifth round pick this weekend for pipkins maybe you do that although he was just at like a team promo so I don’t know I hey I’ll make $10 million to be a backup I’ll be backup pod 10 million oh yeah and the reality is like offensive lineman get hurt like Trey is going to be a valuable asset to this team one way or another maybe it’s not full worth of his contract but you know he can be the six lineman he can be the backup play in a pinch like you know we’ve been so used to having you know storm Norton types as a swing tackle or yep uh I mean Sam tevy when he was a rookie that kind of Arc Type of player now you have Trey pipkins as your swing tackle so yeah uh interesting question here from uh Cameron he wants to know if alt is a signal that we are looking to compete in 2025 yeah I I well obviously they’ve said they want to compete in every year but I think you have this year for joal to learn how to play right tackle yeah and the CH like he’ll probably be fine at right tackle but there’s some Growing Pains it didn’t benefit Zion to switch and then switch again I never play the same position since he’s been in college with the NFL which is insane so yeah I I think it’s definitely a signal that you know we’re going to be as good as we can be in 2024 but we had a mess of a roster and in 2025 pipkins will be gone alt will be now your entrenched starter the other thing I want to I don’t I don’t so I don’t buy the comment I’m about to bring up from Jay who’s talking about trading Slater for a first to avoid paying him so all can play left tackle I don’t buy that but I did want to bring up technically ran Slater’s also not very consistent L healthy either and I think there’s a 2% chance that some of this was also the off chance that maybe jaal does play left tackle in the future if ran Slater continues to have some pretty significant injuries I’m not saying they should move on from ran Slater I’m not doing that right now I’m just saying it will be nice to have a swing tackle in pipkins and then of course if push comes to shove if joal does need to be your left tackle in the future should things occur with with with Slater who has not been healthy yeah that’s fair I mean trading Slater 100% not on the table like no th that is anti- trench identity anti- protect Herbert identity you would get significantly worse by trading him and and having Trey as your right tackle like you know uh the Jets picked Olu fashanu by the way wow all right um yeah so trading Slater firmly not on the table table in my opinion um also something that was never uh on the table was at Justin Herbert trade Adam Sher reporting that the Patriots and Vikings each reached out to the Chargers to see if they had any interest in trading Justin Herbert the answer was very quickly a flat no so Color Me shocked duh yeah sure have at it we’ll take JJ McCarthy I hated the whole thing like you know what they’re going to do you know why I take this job I take this charger job so I can trade juj McCarthy that’s or trade Justin Herbert excuse me no never made any sense because if you’re Jim Harbaugh why on Earth would you ever have taken the Chargers job if you weren’t interested in Justin Herbert it was if you take Justin Herbert off of the Chargers roster it is object it was objectively the worst situation the only reason it was attractive was because of Justin Herbert right no you make all that money at Michigan Mig and you stay there unless you have a a better option out there oh we got Jim Harbaugh doing a press conference already okay wow okay that’s great I’m sure proper or Alex will give us some of the rundown on that one yeah Alex is twe about it right now uh quote from Jim Harbaugh I know the question is GNA come up about weapons we look at offensive lineman As Weapons hey saw pipkins catch two-point conversion um oh man it’s true joal former tight end he can catch a bunch of two-point conversions now yes also it sounds like the Broncos pick is in so I’m I’m turning off the chat try not to spoil it I’m on Commercial but I guess someone’s found out what it is commercial here uh Frank blankley earlier not thrilled but alt would have would have not made it past the Titans so not an overdraft three first rounders on the line they better Crush Crosby yeah I mean we’ve seen Crosby destroy games single-handedly from the right side not being great Den gonna get Bowers probably ah probably I’m not looking at the chat uh Elizabeth said alt doesn’t sound that bad now that was at 609 so I assume that was when we were like explaining things your dad said that was supposed to be the next Raider quarterback he must have really liked pen thanks yes so my dad and I tried him before this he he wanted somebody in the second round should one of the top guys not fall um bonix what if bonix is picked right here that’d be so funny Oh I thought bonix was the pick okay sorry sorry maybe it is uh veteran State of Mind well the Falcons just put things into perspective oh we’re the all pick now hey wait for the Raiders that was crazy man did you say work for the Ravens no wait for the Raiders oh wait for the Raiders yeah yeah it we’ll be interesting to see what Tom Tesco does here in this first draft yeah I work with a ton of Raiders fans as I’ve said before and they were all like our drafts history are so terrible I’m like well they’ll probably get the first round right this year we’ll find out I feel like it’s very easy to judge with the Raiders if it’s a good first- round pick or not yeah yeah it’s were they 50th on the consensus board or were they supposed to go in the first round yeah [Music] let’s see I haven’t seen I have pick is in but I have no idea uh you want to go to comments or no yeah yeah Joor said that they had one call when they were on the clock we ultimately didn’t feel it was worth it to trade back and pass on Joe yeah so okay at this point Vikings were clearly interested because they just did it yep I would imagine maybe AFC [Music] teams um I think we might get the Broncos pick right now they’re back from commercial break yeah looks like they’re some people have filed out of the draft already that looks kind of light right now maybe Chargers head coach Jim Harbaugh said defensive line coach Mike Elston and cfd Co safeties coach Chris leer had good intell on Joe with Notre Dame backgrounds makes sense sure I think Michigan also recruited Joe for what it’s worth I mean why would you not okay still NFL Network desk uh Aldo wanted wide receiver but I’m not mad about alt we’ve locked in 10 years of edge rushers being basically erased plus absolute dominance running to the edges uh the Chargers will be able to run the [ __ ] out of pin and pole and I love pin and pole Concepts because Slater and ALT are so damn good at Pin and pole Concepts so that’s gonna be fun yeah Mark said alt is like the mountain from Game of Thrones maybe he dies becomes a zombie and then gets recast in three season I don’t know um yeah I don’t know what’s Ian rap report saying right now [Music] bronos are they gonna take dicks well BR SPI said said chaos that’s the spirit dad come on Broncos do something stupid I buy that if they take B knck I guess the Raiders literally will not take a quarterback no if the if they take B knck here I don’t think they would take Bowers because they have they just drafted Michael Mayer that’s it wouldn’t stop me at that point though holy cow that’s probably a tyon Arnold or Quon Mitchell pick okay here’s gell walking to the stage yeah’s kind of [Music] limping bronos [Laughter] bonix at 12 oh my gosh that is hilarious all right so bonck Michael penck the 30th and 35th players on the consensus board six quarterback man bonix has been in college football longer than cam Rising I feel like uh same recruiting class yes but cam is still in college yes that’s true but that says at least the Raiders will still not be the worst teammate team in the in the west we’ll see Dad you still have a pick to go yeah sh oh Nicks at 12 man that is that is hilarious uh okay so I guess the Chargers will need to run the ball when they’ve established a nice lead um so that’s good joal yeah they’re still gonna lose in Denver somehow though probably probably do you think they really like I mean oh God bless you Dad you tried to re send it in with another Super Chat at least the Raiders will still not be the worst team in the AFC West at least the Raiders will still not be the worst team in the AFC West you got it you did it okay um oh so assistant GM Chad Alexander was at the Notre D and pro day apparently I don’t think that was reported nice hey we still have we still have 3,600 people in here going strong no I I can’t believe that we’re going to actually I joked about 2,000 we might be 4,000 especially if the Chargers trade back in which I think is still possible Raiders potentially taking Spencer Rattler here now that would be hilarious Raiders take Spencer Rattler I gotta log off and go find my dad to make sure he’s okay the Raiders pick is in so Tom Tesco stays and picks at 13 as he always does he generally isn’t too far off from the consensus board so given who’s available I mean I don’t know I could see Brock Bowers Arnold um who’s the other defensive tackle they feeling spicy John Jenkins yeah Wilkin obviously this might be Byron Murphy could be Byron Murphy a lot of Buzz about him kind of right now in this race some people thought Murphy could go as high as eight actually I bet you it’s fanga I’m going fanga here or or fanu right tackle is their biggest need I would say yeah that would make sense outside a quarterback man the draft’s kind of looking a little light now I don’t know if something happen or not but uh by the way we are going to have Mr Alex insdorf J jumping in here in a little bit uh he’s going to join us after pick 15 so excited to have him on and here is Mr Roger gell in any draft so there’s a lot on the line here with the 13th pick in the 2024 NFL draft oh [ __ ] all right powers and mayor I hate that oh now you take a tight end Tesco no I’m kidding uh the [ __ ] that at that point Brock Bowers is the best player available like that’s not he’s been the best player available yeah yeah so him going there is it’s my dad W an offensive line but Brock Bowers Michael Mayer is an insane Duo a young tight end Duo oh yeah so Travis Kelce Brock Bowers in the division awesome awesome that’s and honestly for Tesa it’s a pretty safe pick like first year in the job try not to get fired quarterbacks are gone take the best player available dang Brock Bowers that’s a good one my dad is clearly very happy or he hates it I can’t tell what the hahaas are for but I’m going to [Laughter] say on on brand David and for all many Chargers fans Brock Bowers is dead to me now he sucks he’s always sucked FTR um yeah I unfortunately Brock Bowers is is very very good as my dad says two tight end sets are going to kill it yeah Michael Mayer Brock Bowers that’s nasty uh so Alex just tweeted this out uh Jim Harbaugh says there was nobody higher on the board than Joe alt so Joe alt was their best at least that’s what they’re saying publicly yeah so interesting also Jim Harbaugh says that they think Trey is one of the best five right now and that includes Joe alt maybe he does play [Applause] guard go look at arjon’s tweet oh God okay let me go find Arch and Suite I’m sure it’s laced with sarcasm God damn it God damn it orgin I will not uh share what Argin is tweeting us in our group chat but it is very okay let me go over there uh yeah okay I’ll be completely honest how are our viewers still climbing how do we have more people at this point I think people just love the draft man it’s just it’s it’s a fun thing to participate in so I’m G to start checking off the names on my big board so he’s gone he’s gone he’s gone he’s gone he’s gone he’s gone no Edge rushers yet no defensive tackles yet so that’s kind of fun so from your earlier question Joe hortiz says they are not done with offensive line oh man Chargers fans get ready to learn Cooper BB at 37 baby hey man I love Cooper BB Christian I’m so glad I was able to get to Christian Haynes before the draft because his tape was so much fun to watch like that dude against NC State had a complete Master Class of how to play offensive guard yeah yeah there’s a number of very good right guards in this class specifically yeah like it’s mahogany later on Jackson Paris Johnson at 37 so yeah because I’d be pretty surprised at this point if Jackson Powers Johnson is a first round pick there he was not on any of the final mock drafts right now no not at all Ryan points out says people are underrating Palmer and Johnson I’m assuming this is one of fours or Harbaugh I think Johnston I think is properly rated although I do believe his role will be better if anyone has any kind of plan for him yeah like you know get the yak guy involved with I don’t know Yak plays um yeah Palmer I think is going to be underrated if he were healthy this would be a completely different story he should be talked about in the same way as a t Higgins in my opinion Palmer should be talked about as a t Higgins yeah I think if he didn’t get hurt oh if Palmer had continued his year and had over a thousand yards and and did what he did against the Chiefs the last couple of years yeah like I I think he should be considered something like that yeah I Josh Palmer like he’s right now they’re wide receiver one obviously um I think this is a guy who’s gonna be like he is a hard ball wide receiver so this is It’s a good fit for him I think he will excel in the role whatever role he plays you know people nationally are like they think Quenton Johnson is the wide receiver one on the dep chart and it’s like no no no no that’s Joshua Palmer Joshua is one on this team right now no film backs it up you loved him earlier than anybody else because you sat the stupid tennessy tape and watched him but after his rookie season even with 15 catches or whatever he had just watching him get open without targets it’s like there’s something here yeah the the bummer is he might be gone next year uh although at this point yeah I think if he plays a healthy season I think he’s getting ex getting extended I think he stays on the team it the only reason he’s not on the team next year I would say is if he gets hurt again and misses him yeah so okay Jim Harbaugh’s now saying Slater is locked in at left tackle didn’t he say the opposite okay all right I don’t know yeah Alex just tweeted Jim Haron now says ran Slater is locked in at left tackle yeah I mean r i don’t think you move ran you move anybody else I don’t think you move ran he’s your best offens of lineman yeah when he’s healthy he’s an all pro player like he’s he’s staying at left left tackle and like there’s like a whole like team player thing here but he has zero in he has zero uh zero reason to move to the right side like he should stay on the left side financially it just makes more sense for him right but yeah that’s a good point by Brett in the chat felt like two years ago everyone want an offensive line now people scoff at them making that pick it’s a good point yeah you know perspectives obviously changed I mentioned earlier I think in our maybe our group chat or something or Discord like Matt money Smith was more championing offensive line this year whereas previously it’s funny because he didn’t want like Slater or darasa or I guess Su depending on what happened he preferred a wide receiver at that point so you know perspective change things change yeah it’s just um coaching staff’s Chang mindsets changed change if Tesco were still the GM I think they take a receiver but it’s not yeah I I and probably Odun again because they there yeah and because yeah Tesco drafted and paid Trey like I think Tesco would have had much more faith in Trey St true very true and the rest of the players yeah all right the pick is in for the Saints this has to be another offensive lineman I think so fonga I what else need do do you know much about their offensive tackle situation um all I know is it’s bad yeah so Ryan Ram is like in danger of not playing football this year and their only other offensive tackle is Trevor penny oh who’s their OT like four with the 14th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the New Orleans Saints [Music] s oh fire fit from tiis yeah love that athletic nasty tackle that they need that’s not someone with 35 penalties a game yeah I was going to say you could not be more opposite than I bet you fanga is the nicest dude off the field too oh yeah you know he is the guys yeah you know on our slides here we we uh created slides for every possible draft pick and then we put information from the Beast um tiis apparently had like huge money offers from other teams to transfer and he just he loved Oregon State they were the first team to recruit him heavily and he just decided to stay so he’s uh selfless guy that to Le say fanga and it worked out I mean he’s his tape was awesome he moved up for me in the process as my 14th player not we don’t have quarterbacks but number 14 for me just once I started watching other Edge rushers and watching him completely erase some of them and the way he handled them it’s like okay this guy’s pretty good so well worth it this is a question we can probably start chatting about not that it’s we not that we haven’t but who are the skill position players on this team that we have to scheme for there are none yeah at this point no one on offense is someone you specifically have to scheme for if it’s anyone it’s Josh Palmer given their connection but oh looks like we have a a visitor yeah I I think this the the players that the defense has to scheme for is Justin and then obviously the offensive line so you know the the the Chargers mentality is just different you know you go from building an offense like basically around oh we got the fireworks my bad I did the two up on accident there skill position uh I mean the Chargers go from biling a team like almost entirely out of the wide receiver room to the offensive line room like it’s it’s a change in philosophy and I understand like you know it’s a it’s going to be an adjustment for us but you know it’s uh it’s what the Chargers wanted to do I do think going circling back here to the 2025 bit I think that does make sense here for the Chargers you be you get your offensive line locked up for the long term and then you know you figure out wide receiver later was it wouldn’t have been my preferred approach but I understand obviously why the Chargers are doing it yeah um and would you like to would I like to what oh well I think I think he’s available he still Alex is in the thing but his camera is off there we go there we go what is up Alex what’s up nice chart nice uh Jersey of choice tonight yeah yeah didn’t we didn’t get a receiver for him but we got some we got some blocking yeah who’s the who’s the jersey of choice right now oh no it’s the Herbert color Rush okay great sounds good so you just obviously got off of listening to the press conferences you know the discussion with Joe Ortiz Jim Harbaugh catch us up on that because you kind of have the linear timeline of it in your brain and then your takeaways uh and thoughts on the pick yeah I mean they basically asked him hey do you think this was the best player available they think this was the best player available and they went pretty much all into um you know the fact that alt was the best Prospect for them throughout the whole process uh they spent uh their offensive line coaching staff to his prod day uh and you know Harbaugh talked about offensive lineman being the tip of the spear uh much like Stephen just alluded to so this is a team that’s going to be build to the trenches uh it was a little weird because I think it was poer who asked him if Slater was locked in at left tackle he said to be determined and then he corrected himself later and then said Slater’s locked in at left tackle uh so that was a little bit confusing um but yeah so I mean I think it’s going to be between alt and pipkins presumably for right tackle and ALT probably eventually supplanting pipkins here they didn’t really you know he also said pipkins was uh Frank says hortiz kicked him is that true oh I I didn’t know if hortiz kicked him I I joined like a second late so I didn’t I didn’t see like the whole thing um but yeah so what else did he say oh he said Trey pipkins is still one of their best five linemen uh even with alt on the roster they believe that um yeah and they said that they didn’t believe trading down was the right thing uh they got one call apparently when they were on the board and decided to stick there so I would guess that was Minnesota maybe and then Minnesota eventually traded back with the with the Jets so Frank said he was kidding about the kick oh okay I didn’t see any I didn’t see any kicking yeah yeah no I think it’s um you know the five best players thing like that’s that’s all fine and dandy until you see what that guy is like at guard and I just like I I have such a hard time picturing Trey be a guard especially in this scheme so yeah I think Trey is your swing tackle I think they figure out right guard in in some other way but um Alex you guys obviously went live last night talking about um JC leam and everything like that and you kind of I think you were the first one to say that your impression was like if Marvin Harrison Jr is gone it’s alt or a trade down if I remember correctly so yeah um what’s your reaction here as um as the Chargers have Joe alt at the right tackle now going forward uh The Crowd Goes mild reaction no I mean uh I think this was expected I mean all of the betting markets you know shifting you know within hours with laam going up potentially in a tradeback scenario and then Alt was the favorite I think on FanDuel today outside of McCarthy potential tradeback um and the two wide receivers today I think dipped to like plus 400 odds so you knew they weren’t going to be the pick um but it made sense uh as to why they did it we had been saying for like a month now that it was going to be offensive line regardless of what any of us wanted uh and and that’s what they did so like I I see a bunch of people on Twitter like this is the worst pick of all time and even though I’m the president the league neighbors fan club I’m like I don’t know like what did you guys think was going to happen like they they clearly were insinuating they weren’t going to take wide receiver so yeah yeah all right here is Roger Goodell for the Colts pick at oh I haven’t I haven’t caught up on like who who’s gone recently I was shocked by the penx thing and then I haven’t like seen who’s gone after that with the 15th pi in the 2024 NFL draft the Indianapolis select BYU nice good for I’m I’m glad he didn’t fall out of the first round I’m glad people feel good enough obviously got to get cleared but um hell of a player obviously he’s the first defensive player right he is he is that’s kind of crazy at 15 that’s crazy so dang damn the Raiders got Bowers yeah Raiders got Bowers so has a younger brother who looks just like him yeah the Raiders ton Tesco doing us dirty he doesn’t take a single [ __ ] tight end last year and then he goes May and Brock Powers Bowers and Michael Mayer there yeah yeah yeah I think um there were there were some questions here in the chat about like how does taking joal help them beat the Chiefs this year I don’t think think that’s the goal and like if you expected like them to beat the Chiefs this year I don’t know what to tell you like the Chiefs just went back-to-back Super Bowls so it’s just it’s not about beating the Chiefs it’s about rebuilding this roster in Harbaugh’s image in Ortiz’s image and I think joal yeah is very clearly like the way that they chose to do this so yeah I mean I mean none of this like I guess yeah like you said they’re not beating the Chiefs this year and I think that this pick to some extent officially coming in is sobering of the fact that they didn’t they don’t think that you know you know publicly they will say that they believe that they can beat the Chiefs and they believe they can beat any team and you have Harbaugh Herbert right so you can make the playoffs um but I think that they always viewed this as a two-year operation probably to like reset this roster to what they want it to be uh based on his contract I I don’t think Trey pipkins is going to be here and they went with Jo Walt who they thought was best player available um so like this none of this was particularly really surprising and yeah like I I don’t think joal you know helps them get four more wins next year right like in the same way that maybe drafting Marvin Harrison Jr one of these other prospects would have um but you know this is what they view as the best long-term thing and I I do ultimately think they are uh going Beyond 2024 here and yeah you know like I there would there were other things that I wanted to do and think would be better for the long term but this is never what they were going to choose to do in terms of picking wide receiver trading down for Bowers or any of these things yeah so I’m trying to update my board L to gone youa Fango went to the Saints so the Seahawks are on the board right now yeah yes we have uh yeah Seahawks Jags Bengals so Brian Thomas J obviously has not gone I swear to God if he falls into far enough for the Chiefs to take him Seattle’s not taking one Jags probably or even Bengals like’s going no one’s traded up outside of the Vikings right that was the only one correct yeah okay your thoughts on B knck to the uh rad bronos Bon knck is like the least of my thoughts honestly Michael penck was the what the Yeah the [ __ ] is that I mean that was that was the shocking one and like Kirk is on like a four-year deal with like two of those years guaranteed so you’re gonna start penx as like a 26 and a half year old rookie right I just I don’t I don’t get that pick man that that one was like the shocking one because they have they have needs on defense defense too and I mean like you could choose to still add another wide receiver go for another weapon take offensive line for them to take a quarterback I’m just I’m perplexed by like what their whole thing is because penx doesn’t really have a route to starting within the next two years unless Kirk gets hurt or you know something along those lines happens so I’m just yeah I’m confused by it and I also had penx as my uh granted only watched YouTube film did not watch all 22 uh but I had FX is like like my qb5 so I just that was like I don’t know I think shout out to katson I know that’s his guy but in the NFL like I just that much I don’t see him being like a true NFL starter that was the Shocker one to me Nicks was I mean penciled in for a while now but Nick’s at 12 yeah really either of those guys in the first round is uh I I I don’t even know how to respond to that right gosh so the the the Falcons have a 57 half million dollar capit for Kurt Cousins in 2026 so they have they have three more seasons with an out in 20207 I like I said earlier I I would if you wanted quarterback take McCarthy because McCarthy is four years younger yeah but yeah I would not but I I wonder if McCarthy probably would have had more like pressure to you know start him from the jump type of a thing and he probably wanted to go to a place where he could immediately start I don’t know wait so Kirk’s cap hit in 2026 is like yeah it’s it’s super high 57 I’m curious to look at Justin Herbert and Jaylen herz’s cits now oh yeah I’m going go through a couple of super chats real quick here um did we do this one from Austin uh I don’t believe so okay so we’re at 45 Super Chat so thank you very much guys I’m not lost and [ __ ] uh not the sexy pick but joal would have been the number one pick in many drafts and 69ine without athleticism will be fun to watch on Sundays yeah I yeah I’d say so I I think that someone also asked if uh we would have him over Ran’s later my answer to that was no I believe the same for the three of us yes I think uh I I think we talked about this a little bit but for me like the best offensive tackle prospects I’ve studied would be Slater wors yeah Paris Johnson and ran Slater in some order probably Su and then wors and then that conversation yeah um so I I had uh ran at a 7.35 and I put a 7.25 out of on Joe Al so not super far behind but I yeah Slater was definitely higher yeah top 10 players Top 10 rankings for us I believe um yeah we have passed 4,000 viewers we have passed 4,000 okay hold on I’m not I’m not gonna take a screenshot of us over 4,000 with a quorum Super Chat on the [ __ ] screen J nice uh Jaylen Herz cap hits 31 million in 2026 41 million 2027 47 million 20128 compared to Kirk Cousins at 56 million in those years all right let’s see Daniel poer wrapped up with Jim haraba he has his initial reaction dropped uh let’s see most of the stuff we know the Beast break that’s funny he did what we did this the Beast breakdown which I like yeah his parents the great of the pick is an A minus according to Scott doerman I’m saying that right okay I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that I literally do not I’ve never heard that name in my life d o c h t e r m an I’m saying I read the athletic religiously and I have no idea who that is all the pick is in for this Seattle Seahawks they don’t need a corner this is prob can’t take penex that was that penx was his floor for me was always the Seahawks because of connection and penx there makes sense to me but yeah pen in Atlanta this could be Dallas Turner they don’t really have anybody opposite of nosu oh Seattle Seattle could uh Nick asking if the Falcons have a trade in mind for Kirk no chance sir well that’s an interesting question I don’t know if we have data here but zmc 10 wants to know if we can pull any date on how many All Pro right tackles in NFL history were drafted in the top five uh NSN pointed out pan uh as well as TR wors huh yeah was sixth right what I was Chase six pan was six yeah wor was wor was not top five also wors was like 13 or something right yeah wor was ranking the tackles worse was the fourth offensive tackle in that class taken which is crazy looking back at that yeah Andrew Thomas is really really good but worse or Thomas was five I think sure he’s left tackle um yeah wors going after Makai beckon okay I have Roger gdal walking out for the Seahawks pick oh really I’m still on Commercial oh okay now I see Roger gell or at least there there he is thank you to and women who serve in the United States military youres def our country freed do not go un thank you so much with the 16 in the24 NFL Draft [Music] Seahawks they just trade for Williams yeah and they signed uh what’s his name from the Broncos last year to a huge right yeah that’s a sick defensive tackle room though so it’s Inu Leonard Williams Byron Murphy just Derek hall and then of course Deon Witherspoon who was a pro bowler last year raan Jets went to the Seahawks I just realized I didn’t I don’t remember seeing that cool dud Mike mcdonal has a sick defensive line I think that’s nasty dude why take Travis Jones and run three when you can just Byron Murphy and a nasty grouping here yeah Byron Murphy’s number one athletic comp was Justin matab that makes sense yeah yeah totally I wanted to read this quote from hortiz because somebody asked him about the wide receiver room and then he said we’re going to be addressing more than just the receivers too you’re never one player one player away and you’re never one position away also added we’re not done with offensive line either yeah sorry I got to spoil in the chat but the Jaguars are trading back the Vikings are trading up again yeah to 17 uh Johnny Newton Corners the corners yeah yeah could be the run on Corners I can’t believe they’re all going that long pick is in yeah that’s crazy that was quick I don’t know like how terion isn’t like off the board or or quinon this could be one question mark for each one of them I don’t know uh attakus th Taj wants to know if can they make if the Chargers can make Joe alt and All Pro in 2024 or future Seasons future Seasons I think yes yeah yeah yeah gez they traded up six spots and gave up a fifth round pick this year and then a third and fourth next year holy cow that’s a lot yeah plus they’ve already given up the two picks this year the second run on receivers hasn’t started yet right it’s only the big three that went no Brian Thomas Jr they wouldn’t they wouldn’t take Brian Thomas here they have they wouldn’t but I get what he’s asking talking Jaguars no uh well the Bengals and the next couple of teams that are like on the board now yeah the Bengals definitely I mean okay here’s Goodell already that was like the fastest trading pick ever andj MTH the Jacksonville Jaguars have traded the 17th pick to the Minnesota Vikings with the 17th in the2 NFL drafta Vikings Dallas Turner okay that’s that’s good yeah that’s fine with me I didn’t love Dallas Turner but taking him at 17 so okay let’s see what the who’s so they jumped they jumped there’s coach Ed coach Ed on the was he there yeah oh nice I guess he’s there with latu and and everybody else got all those guys y yeah so they jumped sick outfit the Rams they jump the Bal that’s probably it they probably wanted to jump the Rams for because the Rams need Edge rusher help desperately dude what if the Rams just go and get like Johnny Newton and just redo the whole awesome interior guy all over again yeah they have Kobe Turner too yeah that’s sick Pittsburgh’s in a great spot for an offensive lineman they want Troy f is still on the board Mar on the board I feel like it’s going to be Fano or Mims for Pittsburgh yeah they’re going to go offensive line none of Corner still Corner’s getting pushed down that’s good though please keep keep pushing the corners down I I have no objections to pushing the corners down oh yeah have the Chargers ever did Tesco give his presser back when they took Herbert and then go back out and draft Kenneth Murray I don’t think I don’t know because that would have been the co year oh true true true true I don’t I don’t remember if he did a press conference if anything it would have been like on Zoom or something I I they probably waited until after the first round I would guess if they did something yeah I don’t remember yeah people asking about a trade back in doubt it I’d be pretty surprised as well yeah I think this team wants more picks I see them trading down from 37 not up I think if they had like traded down to 11 and then like been in a position maybe where they didn’t get 23 and then traded back up they could have something in the B back of the round but I think they’re waiting till 37 at this point as a film junkie I do have to say Joe Al versus max Crosby that’s gonna be fun that’s gonna be fun I yeah I mean because the the way that you beat Max Crosby is you have to have length like you can’t beat him if you’re a short arm right tackle how long how long are arms all uh Al arms again I uh I think they’re I don’t remember them being like ridiculously long but yeah oh no I was just looking at Lam’s arms today and they were like 36 or something crazy like that yeah Mar’s Mims is like 38 crazy uh joal is at 34 and a quarter yeah would amarius Mims be off the board already if the three shuttle time actually happened 100% he would have been Pig number five dude probably yeah for those who don’t know what Alex is talking about there was like a a fake amarius Mims uh short shuttle time and it was like third best in the combine period I think it was that somebody they inputed somebody else’s time for him yeah and then that people he this Behemoth just ran shle combine history for no it like it like broke Twitter dude like everybody was like what the [ __ ] is this guy yeah Stephen what did you order for new food what’s your uh uh I ordered Wing Stop I think I might do that too actually sounds kind of good yeah I ordered Wing Stop I got uh a 10 piece combo yeah that sounds about right I’ll go boneless because I don’t to be chomping Wings in front of everybody yeah same I I have to I don’t like boneless wings unless I’m like handsfree like can’t do anything so yeah yeah yeah every okay everyone’s putting the bad juju of Korum next if that happens at 37 my dog’s doing the live stream I if if they take Corum at 37 I will film myself walking out to the ocean and upload it as YouTube short there you go there you go Bengals pick is in as 18 uh there was a ton of Eagles trade up smoke but I don’t think they even need to at this point they can just stick and pick and yeah unless the run on like Corner starts but they could pretty much get I guess whichever Corner they kind of want I mean we’ll see what happens with terion and Quon the next couple picks somebody says they put down five chili dogs oh man that’s GNA be a rough [Laughter] night five chili dogs Alex do you have uh the Sixers game on oh [ __ ] I forgot they were playing [ __ ] wow is the draft yeah it is the draft oh they’re up 10 with 41 seconds wow no I I I only saw the first quarter where embiid got a flagrant foul for ripping someone’s leg down from from under and then I was like oh so we’re gonna go down three 0 but it looks like they’re gonna survive so you know you win some you lose some tonight in my book yeah adak is pointing out Kool-Aid at 37 that would be I wasn’t a huge Kool-Aid guy but at 37 would be a fantastic pick and Joe ores loves his Alabama guys feel like whoever feel like whoever feel like whoever gets Terry on here kind of like wins the first round for me with how far he’s nice yeah uh Bengals here would not take probably not take Arnold right [Music] um they took d DJ Turner like in the second round last year uh actually I don’t know who their best corner is but I feel like they should take an offensive tackle like they should be a Troy Fano team but they also like their offensive tackles to be 68 and 390 pounds who do the Bengals have at Center again uh it was he used to be on the the Bucks uh Kappa I think Alex Alex Kappa yeah yeah he signed that big deal there I forgot about that the one uh Adam shefer tweet that was at like like right at one o’clock as soon as it opened nice commercial breaks still happening by the way on my end oh don’t even put this energy out there sholom man they’re I mean they’re starting to get in the range but I don’t think he gets past Cincinnati if the Higgins I want out stuff is real and then Boyd’s obviously gone I kind of would I wouldn’t be surprised if they went tackle but I mean the run is starting now so they might have to trade up and then if not then I think they might just stick and pick receiver but I forgot Zach Moss was on their team now on the chiefs no on the Bengals sorry oh the Bengals yeah we wouldn’t know if Zach Moss was on the Chiefs oh I’d be so I’d be so mad I’d be so mad moss moss and PCO on the Chiefs to make this podcast [ __ ] miserable they sign Bobby Holly do a fullback deal like walking off baby uh somebody was saying that people are comparing uh Kareem was saying that people are comparing Joe Al to Eric fiser I didn’t watch Eric Fisher the pros but I can say confidently as an NFL player that’s extremely far off we hope uh here is Mr Goodell for pick 18 one thing to keep in mind with the 18th pick in the 2024 NFL draft I spoke I spoke too soon yeah I mean definitely their type like I said they love huge offense attack so yeah um that’s a good spot for him because he doesn’t have to play right away too but yeah six7 340 pounds playing behind Trent Brown who is 69 and 370 pounds what if Howe went wide receiver here after paying Devonte and AJ Brown obviously doesn’t mind to do it yeah uh what’s it what was the what was the AJ Brown number I didn’t even see it I saw the three years 96 84 guaranteed so that’s how much what apy is that 32 32 so he beat he be I think he beat the Tyreek Hill and um the Tyreek Hill and Aman R st Brown number yeah um but yeah circling back to like joal comps I think um oh Tyler’s out okay I think Brandon Thorne compt into Jake Matthews the left tackle for the Falcons I’ve seen Jake long as a comp as well um you know comps don’t always have to be like all pro level players but to me like Jake Long makes sense yeah I I think that’s a fair one who his physical comparisons are H mock draftable doesn’t have any information up for joal the Bleacher Report article The Bleacher Report article says bigger stronger Jake Matthews is the comp oh one of the comparisons on mock draft ball is Andrew Whitworth that’s actually that hits huh said that’s not bad if that hits yeah oh Andrew was awesome but play style wise I think that actually makes a lot of sense to me that was the conf for Mims or Al S I just got back for alt on mock draftable it was his second uh mock draftable comparison let’s see what R has so the Rams on the clock at pick 19 yeah I mean I think the other thing about Al is you know Stephen brought up the RS like those guys just don’t tend to fail when they’re picked that high right so I mean like I I really kind of like Harbaugh said um I don’t know if I agree with him that he has a highest ceiling in this class or something like that but like he said he does have a very very very high floor in terms of his NFL outcomes here oh [Laughter] no his RS comparison is Trevor Penning okay okay but the r is f it’s Trevor Penning without the fighting and if you took the fighting out like Trevor Penning would be a better Prospect right yes yeah but Al is Al is also like significantly better I I had Trevor Penning as like a low I think a mid third round Brave oh you had was third yeah or maybe low second but yeah yeah you know went to a good good Catholic school you know fought the got the fighting got the off the field out of him you know hopefully yeah yes no I think uh I think you’re looking somewhere in between like Andrew wwth and Jake Matthews and Jake Matthews is a really really good tackle and really really good tackles get paid a lot of money and they stay a long time in the NFL I think the other thing that we said about Penning is just like the potential was there but it it was kind of like Tyler said who’s you know I don’t want to be the one to find out right with all the penalty question marks and you know play question marks that he had on top of kind of what the ceiling was and jalt just doesn’t have any of those red flags yeah the Rams pick is in for what it’s worth uh is this wide rushers Ed rushers are gone Murphy’s gone maybe this is Newton but a lot of people think Newton’s gonna be like late first this could be Brian Thomas there were some there was some speculation that they were looking to try and trade up for Romo dun so this could be I think this could be wide receiver yeah dude there’s only been one trade that’s kind of crazy two trades the Vikings twice the Vikings twice yeah yeah that’s funny so they’ve made three trades technically yeah Tyler katson was saying yesterday on the show that um btj has the the shoulder thing right that he got flag yeah yeah him and neighbors both had a shoulder thing but it was more of a note than like a red flag yeah but yeah that doesn’t help your draft St Jared verse will be the second time I have a Florida State Edge rusher in my top 10 and he goes in the 20s after uh Germaine Johnson I’m not saying that’s the pick I just all right pick is coming out for Roger 2024 draft here in Detroit with the 19th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the Los Angeles Rams select Jared ver hilarious of course I say that I genely did not mean that he was there you go all right Jared verse I’m now gonna be right I feel like about that pick I feel good about that having loved his film that’s awesome yeah man vers was a ton of fun I think he fits perfectly what they need too cuz because Byron young is kind of like a speed you know uh finesse rusher and now verse can be a physical rusher yeah that defensive line is is nice Kobe Turner was great last year yeah all right pick 20 yeah Jacob Arnold asking about this we had this on the the slideshow earlier but um Joe alt uh had four career penalties at Notre ding four JC leam in contrast had 18 in two years so take that’s for what it’s worth and Tyler has kind of talked about you know the Ted stuff being there every day Jo all 33 consecutive starts uh j29 says trade next year’s second for Brian Thomas man dog they already went did the press conference they’re they’re they’re gonna be in bed soon that’s funny yeah uh Ryan hay says that on the McAfee show Bill bich compared Joe Al to Nate Solder yeah yeah I mean phys physically that checks out all right pick 20 pittsbur B Steelers oh it did it gave Stephen the like thing because he he held his hand out my microphone oh I don’t oh there we go it’s a it’s a new Mac feature we discovered this on accident one time really oh so watch watch watch watch Dam we like thought it was like a streamyard thing when it when it happened the first time and then turns out it’s just a new Mac thing I was like FaceTiming my m mom one time and I I did a thumbs up and that happened so are there any other like hand movements or like facial expressions you can do to bring up other Expressions have you researched into this I don’t know what if I do like the okay anything happen there no muted finger guns thumbs up thumbs up heart I think if you do a heart that’s a terrible heart but nope oh heart it did a heart thing all right wow somebody said do the bird bird didn’t do anything no one no one screenshot that out of context nope oh man let’s do the heart one again wow this is some groundbreaking jalt coverage going on yeah yeah there’s another one where if you send in a $100 Super Chat I do handstands it’s just automatic yeah that’s not even a Mac thing that’s just a Tyler thing yeah no of course all I’ll do I’ll do a handstand if somebody sends in a super chat or I will attempt to do a handstand so the Vikings only have three picks next year super chat right now no I’m kidding three picks this year next year so when they trade it up to 11 and 23 like point is that ask yeah yeah like did they expect this outcome were they okay with this um Dane bruger was talking about it and said that basically they were hoping to be able to go up and get Drake may but if not they were comfortable with like McCarthy or penx falling to them which obviously penx didn’t fault to them but yeah the the Vikings and the Giants reportedly both really wanted May that was their guy if they wanted to trade up but Patriots took me obviously penx going over McCarthy is it’s crazy to me that especially Falcons I can’t get over the Falcons taking him man that’s crazy I feel like the Steelers pick has been in forever yeah it’s because they’re on Commercial they got to let the what are we thinking here uh jpj or Fano Steelers are going into your offensive line with the tackles gone well I mean technically fouo could be offensive tackle for them but that’s true they they do need a center but it’s like you know jpj has been really his stock has been really falling grah Barton yeah Barton would be a great pick for fanu Bon the Steelers were linked to uh corland Sutton right as like a potential trade team were they so I wonder if that’s something that like happens on day two courtand Sutton I think I I think I saw something about cor and Sutton potentially the Broncos wanting to trade him don’t know if that’s fully accurate maybe I just read something wrong on Twitter but I thought I read that right [Music] guys’s been in forever oh Sixers one Alex good for you dude yeah I know uh not all not all was lost tonight we we joined the alt-right tackle movement and uh one you know nice there’s some people online talking about a potential auk trade happening not with the first round pick right I don’t think it would be with the first [Music] the pick is still in I think the next pick is been is like their time’s already almost up all right here is the pick with Mr C Hayward on the on the screen too tonight 32 young men will embar on their NFL career striving to make an impact on the field but their impacts will be felt far beyond their field but in their communities no one embodied that more than Walter pton and today the League’s highest honor the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award presented by Nationwide recognized his lasting Legacy tonight we are proud to welcome the 2023 Walter pton NFL Man of the Year winner cam [Applause] Hayward first of all I want to say thank you commissioner and most importantly I want to say thank you to the Payton family the NFL and Nationwide the NFL draft is special to my fellow NFL players and the prospects joining the League this week I want to challenge you use your platform to brighten someone’s day the opportunity to before you is a gift and by coming here and being in this league sees that moment be better in our communities be better for our league and our world thank you so much [Applause] here we go and with the 20th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the Pittsburgh Steelo yeah good player I mean everything’s been pretty everything’s been pretty telegraphed outside of penex being the big surprise the big one outside outside of that I mean it’s kind of gone as we’ve expected I didn’t um my food yeah that so I’m gonna go eat real quick okay sounds good go eat dude we’ll be here what what was I gonna say I was gonna say something oh when I they announced cam Hayward as the winner of the Walter Pon Man of the Year and anytime I think of Walter Pon man of the year now I think of Dak at the Super Bowl accepting the award and getting booed by just Eagles the entire Stadium full of Eagles fans for Walter Peyton Man of the Year that’s right I forgot about that never a deal out of that too also remember the time that cam Hayward like body slammed Justin Herbert yeah I was just trying to get up by slamming my two arms into him straight into the ground al man of the year yeah that was something what a guy he got he got a penalty for that right I don’t no F I think I think I think he did I don’t remember I didn’t I mean you can look this up on Twitter I haven’t found it but Smitty saying her cousins agent said they were never given a heads up about penx [Music] oh man I would wow I mean yeah that was like pretty kept under wraps too because I didn’t see a single mock draft inkling thing that like had pennex right no not at eight I mean I think oh there was this discussion of the real quarterback needy teams that they thought Raiders Broncos like someone was going to the Broncos but at eight no I guess from Diana Rini uh the Falcons called Kirk Cousins when they were on the clock to let him know from what I learned Kirk uh cousins understood a QB would be considered but he did not believe his successor would be taken at the first round I’m told he’s a bit stunned yeah wow that just it just makes the whole contract them confusing then like why not just not sign Kirk and then take penx like or take whichever quarterback you were going to take go get like Jobe brette for a year or something not h100 million guaranteed yeah I would almost understand the Penn pick I mean I still think picking pennic in the first is like bad but I would understand it more if like you said they just got like a stop Gap guy but you got the most expensive stop Gap in NFL history now know like at least the Broncos wanted Wilson Wilson to start yeah and then I guess I wonder if that’s going to be like a NFL league shifting thing too like in terms of guys or you know teams more willing to draft quarterbacks now just like as chips so that like if this big contract we gave to a guy doesn’t work then you know kind of started with when the Eagles took herts when they still had Wentz um but like I wonder if that kind of just advances now man oh man dolphins are dolphins are up now dolphins are up Dolphins they released xaven Howard is Howard still there yeah he he they released him and he just got medically like cleared yesterday as like a free agent um that was like the news from one of the Insiders so their Corners are Kendall Fuller and Jaylen ramsy yeah they could take a corner here unless they unless Kendall Fuller got starter money what if they they could take they’re not going to take wide receiver because they’re going to sign Odell that’s oh yeah I mean that’s like been the reporting so if they don’t do that I feel like this has the potential to be like a what if it’s like a because Jaylen Phillips tours Achilles like maybe they pass rusher here is the big you’re gone chop Robinson yeah and everyone expects him to go in the first round right I mean yeah he could sneak in or like them or like Tampa one of those teams that’s left that like needs help at Edge yeah I would have said line a year ago but they kind of figured that out somehow last year so yeah I don’t I don’t know if that’s super sustainable from year to year but you know worked for them last year yeah terion Arnold feels like a great Jaylen [Music] Ramsey I mean if if the Eagles get one of Arnold or Mitchell without having to trade up that’s kind of a another how do they keep letting him get away with it moment but I’m surprised that the league just as a whole just is not moved by this cornerback class that that the yeah at least this far I didn’t expect unless they just think like the day two or three guys like when you get into like Melton and singer still and and TJ Tampa and they just like really like that tier to the point where they don’t want to invest in corner in round one but right I think this is a really good Corner class I do too I I don’t like it as much as the top of the last year’s but the depth of it is so good really didn’t find many corners I didn’t like I mean what’s Max Melton this class like CB n or something yeah I had I had him as eight or nine yeah so on the consensus one two three four five six seven eight nine 10 and I I like him more than Tampa so yeah yeah I I kind of liked Tampa at first and then the more I watched I was like no [Music] that happened to me when I was watching him because I just like saw more tackle attempts and I was like yes ah yeah I got to the Texas game where he had like four misses and it was just like there goes Xavier worthy and there goes gavon Sanders and I kind of think it’s the difference between like Melton having a high Miss tackle rate but being a sound tackler versus Tampa having a little bit lower of a rate but like in my opinion being a bit more like a stiff athlete kind of wor tackler I don’t know yeah I was never like that much in love with Tampa but go Dolphins by the way I I don’t know where you’re at on the stream I’m not watching so oh you’re not watching I I have no idea what happened though okay so the Dolphins are going to select I have my TV muted chop Robinson wow they actually went chop Robinson okay okay good call jayen fl’s part and then yeah yeah all right because they really just didn’t have a lot of other like pass rushing help outside of that and Wilkins left so kind of just made sense yeah that was my that was Edge four for me so they’re going to M all right here here come the Philadelphia Eagles okay um you’re good on linman right yeah you’re they gota they gotta go terion or quinan here that’s like oh yeah I would be weirded out if they didn’t at this point unless there’s like some medical red flag on nether of them but I just don’t we never really heard anything about that so Barton keeps falling and Dallas is on the board so that’s something I think for a little bit here [Music] [Music] I’m going to put my phone in the Twitter away to live react to whoever got picked okay so Corner would how we do a no would how we do a thing where Newton sits or he just kind of like he’s just best Jan Newton Jaylen Carter and Jordan Davis on the same defensive line yeah I don’t 515 defense yeah I mean I I just said wide receiver a little bit ago and like that doesn’t really make sense but also wouldn’t stun me I I think it’s tackles kind of dry up Corner hasn’t been touched I just think it has to be corner but then again hoe never takes Corner in the first round so but like who’s eag’s third receiver uh Devon well quz Watkins war criminal is gone um trying to think I don’t even know who it is right now actually yeah I don’t know [Music] either uh oh they signed uh Paris Campbell and they have Devonte Parker you know I forgot about that oh wow okay yeah I forgot they signed Devonte Parker but I mean I think his contract is set up so that they could like cut him like in the c i I don’t think he’s like a roster lock Stevens guy Britain cvy on the depth chart gotta have uh returners yep I I think they go corner here just it just makes too much sense any chance they trade down because they are almost at a minute left maybe with like the Chiefs or somebody don’t you give them what they want I I know he would too he doesn’t care honestly howwi he trading back would be great because he’s got plenty of options it would be funny the one year that everyone says he’s going to trade up he trades down okay I have pick is in I’ll let you know when Goodell’s up [Music] okay you want to listen to it while it plays on my TV I can have it like sure that’s fine all right I’m going to mute myself real quick okay I am off the chat I have no idea what’s happening the pick is in but no Goodell yada yada y shut up [Laughter] not the TV in the background dog pound is a yeah still waiting arjent just posted the Quinton Johnston Randy Moss Photoshop [ __ ] he’s having fun I don’t think he think people get arin’s humor either so it’s pretty fun no seriously Josh Palmer Fading Into Devonte ad all righty I want to see who’s like the first person to post like a alt Tik Tock like hype clip of just yeah yeah yeah this like Han Zimmer music and then just the Dune like he s our game goodness gracious still waiting on Goodell they could be trading this I guess if they’re really going on this long so wait they had the pick was in and the the clock on the scroller was at under a minute and now up on there it says eight minutes on like the stage for the draft so uh wait uh I think we’re panning to Goodell okay yeah Good’s walking out okay for the sake of not getting copyrighted I’m gonna wait as long as as long as possible and okay he’s being [Music] booed I don’t care uh can you hear that yeah I can okay in South America in sou Pao Brazil and we will be coming to more markets on a global basis soon the NFL’s International player pathway program shout out cjia yeah and po I forgot they do all the advertisements in the like last 15 picks Jordan Milada okay yeah currently native Australia for the opening of a new NFL Academy for high school footb I’ll turn it up when it gets there Jesus Christ oh good evening to of you from the Beautiful with the 22 Pi in the24 NL draft okay CB1 yeah he CB1 for you oh uh no CB1 off the board Arnold CB1 for me but yeah i’ see Arnold CB1 as well but I had quin’s CB2 and then I had uh I had Wigan cb3 so no I’m I’m happy with that pick that’s awesome yeah especially all the way here at 22 that’s great that’s a fantastic one I see Stephen is his what that oh no he never mind he already logged himself out I think my wings are here they’re not aren’t at all okay all right fine Quin Mitchell good player defense is gonna be good what’s the vibe around Nolan Smith this year uh I mean he’s gonna well now that uh reck’s gone I mean he’s gonna start with uh what’s his name who am I forgetting the name of uh you’re the not Nolan Smith guy no oh no I’m sorry I was I was thinking of uh Bryce huff and Josh SWAT Bryce Huff oh Huff huff and sweat start and then they probably yeah [Music] yeah so I mean I think Nolan Smith will be a little bit rotational but they’ll they’ll put him in there and certainly probably up his usage he he looked good whenever he played last year just was like just there were no opportunities for him right you and I’m curious to see that 2026 second or third pick that’ll the Jets at some point um all the way down there yeah okay so Eagles we’re going to commercial Eagles went so we’re at 23 with with the Jags yeah I think so I mean this is shaping up I I know our whole like world will hinge on the Chargers going wide receiver 37 if you ask anyone on Twitter but this is shaping up to be one hell of a cornerboard at 372 and they don’t really have any playable Corners outside of like asj and John to a lesser extent so Fon but John Fulton’s pretty cool too did I say John Fon Christian Fon um he’s really good um so I I don’t know I I think that could be a spot for it though because I definitely think they have to go defensive interior and quarterback within like the top 100ish picks going back to one yeah so going to round two so I mean we’ll see once we get there let’s see Green Bay is not taking Dallas is not taking a receiver they might do something weird like Trey Benson so Jacksonville God they trade back take Brian Thomas Jr that’s pretty good Tampa I don’t know Arizona’s not taking a [Music] receiver they could take tackle oh buffalo buffalo didn’t add a receiver right they just traded away Diggs no yeah so they’re a receiver team for sure okay Ravens could get Johnny Newton for just some odd reason because they can um no they need Lyman I’m curious to see where um Adon I Mitchell goes because like he’s supposedly kind of like off teams boards due to like character stuff and I know kson brought up the fact that he has um diabetes yesterday so I wonder I wonder what his like floor is if he into the second round and like if the Chiefs knowing their history with like some Sky Mo types and like wanting those kinds of guys in the draft if like yeah they would almost go like a lad makoni or somebody over like a Mitchell yeah no I think Cony at 32 fou feels pretty yeah pretty good so I’m curious I’m curious where Mitchell’s floor is and then if he is there like tomorrow at like 37 like what this regime thinks of him yeah it would no longer come down to film at that point just pure you know off field but you know best player available for the Chargers as Ortiz threw that one in today yeah man I we have to talk about offensive tackle at five first four more months boring can I reveal can I reveal a personal anecdote sure uh I I think I said this in the group chat but when I talked to mina K off camera she told me right after the show get ready to learn Joe alt at five buddy so yeah yeah that was that was one that we uh well the whole draft community and everybody uh everybody knew for a while so yeah the Chargers have definitely been more transparent I feel like with the obvious things that will happen JC ended up being very obvious harba ended up being very obvious QJ last year too with I mean not so much during the process but as it got closer to draft day I know his odds similarly to uh to leam and Company spiked yeah Jimmy saying did you save that till after the pick Alex definitely told us that no well I didn’t want to put it out there like oh you know because then that yeah I don’t want to get somebody in trouble and say something she shouldn’t say right right right right right dang wait did someone get picked or is that just quinon oh you’re not watching it live what am I even asking for no I haven’t watched I I’m getting wings I’ll be right back also where’s Stephen dude eat your food all right well Tyler’s gone so Alex Manning the chat now anyone have any uh anyone have any questions I guess I should watch Twitter to see the picks as they come in um that seems like a good idea for me to do uh let’s see what just happened oh Stephen’s back yo Tyler went to eat wings so I was afraid that I would have to run this that was a good timing then oh he’s back he’s back well the Jags just picked uh uh are you caught up on who the Jags picked yeah yeah I had that I had the iPad going while I was yeah ja Pi btj yeah my dog outside and all that stuff s hello there’s suly Tyler gets his dog on camera all the time so you know su’s got got to get some time all good the mighty let’s talk about Tyler thanks will the Sixers complete the comeback uh no um I don’t really think so but I mean MB just scored 50 points on one knee so why not I’m too emotionally scarred did you see the other thing that about embiid no W tweeted that he’s like dealing with Belle’s py right now oh yeah that’s been a thing uh yeah cuz someone noticed after uh game one that he wasn’t blinking his eye properly and this is funny because or not funny that someone got B’s paly but I just had a case where I had to uh deal with a patient that had Bell’s paly so that was interesting um but yeah he uh yeah I I he was able to Blink out of one eye so yeah B’s py is interesting yeah that’s uh my mom had Belle’s py three years ago and she’s still like there’s still like a little remnants there granted she’s much older than Joel embiid but she still like can’t like fully smile properly like out of the one way and like so it’s yeah it’s uh it’s no joke I don’t know if it it I don’t know how because it’s like different in some people in terms of what it spares but yeah no he was not he was only blinking out of one eye against the Nick and people thought it was like a contact lens issue um yeah but no that’s yeah I always thought like going back to that it was more serious but yeah yeah Joel embiid has that guy just one of the most troubled medical histories yeah he’s just going through it tor KN Bell’s paly yeah um did you guys catch up on the the two super chats from earlier I don’t even remember uh I don’t know oh um p z still pulk at this point yeah yeah well well I I said this to Tyler because uh Mitchell’s the only Corner who’s gone off the board so far that I wouldn’t be shocked if the Chargers went Corner 37 only because the board is like kind of falling conveniently at that position yeah not that I like endorse that because they’ll still have some good receivers available too um but I kind of wouldn’t be shocked if they went corner there as they’re like BPA on the board but I don’t know how obviously they have the corners graded so yeah yeah I um with the way the quarterback room is trending I would I would probably focus on corner at 37 um but one of these positions could certainly have a run you know here in the in the late 20s uh how do you feel about the quinon Mitchell pick by the way I missed that oh no I I liked it I mean I didn’t have like a whoa re action but yeah it was cool um I think everyone kind of expected it after a while but no that’s he was my CB2 so I had terion first um so and then I had Wiggins Wiggins third and Kool-Aid fourth so yeah uh Thomas Martinez just came in with a super chat again I I gave him a shout out earlier but definitely go check him out on social media um he says guys the Chargers have three first round picks on the offensive line remember Rivers Herbert running for their lives behind udfas and six round picks yeah I I’ve said this before I think the you know I don’t watch like other teams religiously in terms of tape but that Chargers 2020 offensive line after Brian Baga got hurt is is easily the worst Chargers offensive line I’ve ever seen in my life that was that was brutal so um you know Jim Harbaugh mentioned that he wanted to protect Herbert that was like one of the first things he said was we got the quarterback now we got to protect him so you know that’s obviously why so Trent Scott du respect is not the Chargers right tackle anymore yeah it was 2019 Rivers last year against the Colts and either like the in practice or during the game somebody got hurt yeah it was it was Trent Scott and tripin pipkins in like his first real action Dan or no maybe that was pouncy that line was terrible by like the Steelers game where he was just chucking it and praying ooh we have a trade what what’s the trade um wait the lions are at 24 yeah yeah yeah Lions traded up it says interesting Lions need a corner yeah where did uh Glasgow play for them last year Garden Center he muted Stephen sorry it was muted uh yeah Glasgow is like a guard Center type so whenever Frank ragna was hurt he would play center but okay okay who is the obvious watch it be junior Coulson at 37 or at 24 what was uh Jack Campbell he was 18 but last year’s class was terrible yeah yeah yeah it was if feel like a ground yeah this this could definitely be a teron Arnold spot too yeah yeah be nice selection that’d be oh my gosh I think I I think it’ll be terion probably terion and Brian Ranch yeah okay so the they traded 73 to move up to 24 wow they were at 28 yeah so they move 29 gosh the Lion’s uh front office is very excited so Arnold’s a total he’s a total lion lion kneecapper like yeah that’s that makes sense I could see Barton here if they wanted someone on the interior I was just thinking does Does Kool-Aid fall to 37 with the Medicals depends if people are scared off on Wiggins or not yeah because then I think it’s I don’t know the Niners need a corner but I don’t [Music] know who’s the other D tacle with uh the chiefs with the Chiefs um they resigned uh nandi name yeah yeah someone someone saw that the Cowboys traded back and reposted the all in my ass tweet from skip they’ve had a weird off season that is for sure and now uh Sher was on the Rich Eisen show saying like oh like they might not even keep that back it’s like I don’t know oh man oh yeah somebody pointed out Newton for the for the lions that could yeah that could yeah could be to uh Newton better not be a chief I feel like we’re at like six people that better not be a chief at this point was left pretty much but Newton should not be allowed to fall that far someone’s got Newton and Chris Jones Jesus Christ Newton Jones that would be filthy whoever their ad rushes are caras du oama caras this could be a dee spot too yeah uh yeah if they want like a true outside corner they don’t need an offensive tackle so not gu in huh I guess it depends on what what they have Dee graded as if he’s at as a corner as a safety bring out the local football [Music] people how nice are you still going to play the uh thing live or no yeah I can do that okay you got a ways obviously although I don’t know at theth and high school levels joining me on stage are girls flag football players representing the first four schools that competed in the michion Michigan girls flag High School football league and local high school football tackle students these young men and women embody NFL values of respect Integrity resiliency and responsibility to their teams faith and trust congratulations on accomplishments in your academic and football careers now to make the selection please welcome Ellie [Music] [Applause] fagley the Dallas Cowboys have traded the 24th pick to the Detroit [Applause] Lanes with the 24th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the Detroit Lions select there we go God we got to stop letting these DBS fall to the [ __ ] lions yeah that’s that’s a sick pick for them that’s a sick pick man that’s a sick Brian branch is freaking nasty oh my gosh yeah they traded for Carlton Davis too holy cow so they went from having no corners to three really good Corners yeah pretty quick oh nice Pink Suit Mr terana Arnold I like it hey victory pink Alex I I haven’t seen I haven’t seen the suit I’ll look it up on Twitter yeah it’s nice it’s pretty light so 25 is Green Bay the Jee has been outside outside of alt to the Titans the jeene to the Packers has been like very commonly mocked yeah Michael Pratt I don’t know they always need a quarterback they would love Graham Martin though like Graham Barton is like a such a such a Packers offensive lineman yeah they need an offensive lineman um they lost run and they don’t really they don’t really have like a great tackle situation because uh they cut Bok tiari so right now they’re their starting left tackle is the the famous bike Thief Rasheed Walker and then the right tackle is uh Zack Tom Zack Tom’s a good right tackle but yeah I’m not like not drafting an offensive tackle because of that I just looked at terion Arnold suit on Twitter did any of you guys see the the picture of it before the draft no um he has uh embroidered on it a picture of him from like playing football when he was younger and then on the other side he has the the Jaylen millero let a naysay or no embroidered in the suit nice nice nice That’s great um Kareem asking if we would trade up to get Newton right now I don’t know if they’ll have to I think they would well I think they would have to definitely on like day two unless he goes at the end here yeah I love I don’t think they’re trading up in general yeah yeah’s gonna be Brian Branch this year yeah eat my food wants to know about the famous bike Thief so Rasheed Walker in college stole a bike and it was like written in the Beast and like everything as like a character concern and so we have kind of like run with it as a bit as like where that ranks in ter like anytime a anytime a prospect has like character concerns we like use like the bike Thief incident as like a scale of like how to measure the character concern so it’s just kind of an inside joke on the podcast I guess yeah yeah that’s a long one that’s a yeah I think I think we started with the bike thief and then I don’t remember if it was that off season we also had the Herbert returning the shopping cart discussion yeah I famously took the anti- returning the shopping cart stance so yes that was that was a good sign with you on that one buddy yeah the bike Thief standard it’s either just yeah you worse than that can’t draft [Laughter] you hey suie that’s suly and then on the Chargers Twitter video Argin was Mike mazowski yeah poor guy getting like out it’s just like his oh one the the hype clip the Chargers posted earlier yeah yeah I love teron Arnold for the the Lions that’s got to be that’s pretty probably my favorite pick so far Rams and Jared verse is awesome um where’ Byron Murphy go again Seahawks that’s fun I um like I me on the Beast D rugler was talking about uh the snap counts for everybody and Johnny Newton averaged like 65 steps a game the last two years what do you think Byron Murphy’s average was well he’s just a nose tackle 35 oh two years uh I didn’t look at last year’s I’ll say 35 though it was like it was like 32 if I remember correctly yeah so Newton played like over 3,000 snaps the last two years and Murphy’s was was like there go pick is in for the Packers it’ll be another receiver just to be funny anything but I’ll never forget when we were all in the in the patreon zoom stream for uh oh yeah for Jordan love Jordan love to the Packers with Jason uhhuh yeah yeah that’s right Johnny Newton was a running back is this a Raiders man in here because that’s hilarious Tesco goes to Vegas and takes them to division Champions you want to put a bet on that buddy is he running the uh golden knights or uh are they are they trading for momes yeah Isaac Rex was so I think that’s a com about the running back thing Isaac Rex the tight end from BYU was a running back in high school Teran Arnold is doing an interview right now and he just straight up took the microphone from the reporter and now he’s just talking to the talking to Detroit oh that’s right didn’t wasn’t he like crushing the media interviews the media circuit too yeah yeah remember he like like uh after the combine he like talked about how much he loved his mom and stuff like that yeah and then there was another instance where he like went out of his way to uh shout out his like Elementary School Janitor oh wow oh here’s the Packers Bay and host for the 2025 NFL dra oh wow okay Morgan before Barton I um well do they have him okay on my TV He’s listed as a tackle so I don’t know if that was the maybe Barton to them is a different I don’t know I definitely strongly disagree with him over Barton unless you don’t think Barton is a taco and think Morgan’s a tackle which I guess fine yeah dude gr Martin film was better at left tackle and I think he’s a better proed guard so okay as we’re getting to this now we’re getting through the draft more and more it’s very clear the Chargers options at at offensive line at tackle were toast I mean they were going to be anyway but like yeah there offens the everyone’s going to be gone uh gon might be a chief which wouldn’t be bad for them so you know the Chargers not granted they could have just started Trey pipkins right but they would have been looking at Patrick Paul so Ian rap report says that there’s a lot of action in the late 20s from teams trying to come up into the back end of the first round right now uh but yeah to Tyler’s Point man it’s like the oh there goes my dog where you going um tackles Drive quick it’s it’s it’s really tough to get uh you know offensive tackles in the second round that pan out I uh was listening to the stock exchange and they were talking about Kingsley sutia and Conor Rogers had a hilarious line about sutia and how just like he was not NFL ready and um like the [ __ ] that people talk about just like made him laugh all the time because he just is not that guy so yeah he doesn’t like him or no no the soccer change guys were were very much a Believers of Summa being like a project tackle I mean I buy that honestly watching the film I buy that I don’t think he was as good as he’s gonna go in the second round now though he’s literally yeah other than Barton not Barton gon so Le is now laying down under my desk next to my feet all right time for to you complete the process pick him up and just uh soly weighs 50 pounds dude it’s not like glad and he hates being picked up oh that’s fine all right let’s talk about it Mike asks who are some wide receivers you like in the late 20s and what are you willing to give up uh at this point I’m not trading up for a receiver um I am not a believer that that is necessary I think you can wait and take a wide receiver at 37 uh tomorrow uh yeah depends what you want I would jump I I just because I [ __ ] hate him I would jump in front of the chief for a receiver I don’t care I give up pick 110 to move to 31 jump the Chiefs take Adonai is that your guy no I I take makoni okay where did you have uh Adonai Mitchell was 31 for me so makoni 22 pulk 23 Legette 29 Mitchell 31 Mitchell falling mostly because of the outlier yards per route run and then some of like the flags yeah uh what about you Alex where did you have an and I uh I had him at five so I had btj then ad I but then all these like red flags started coming with later so I don’t know like if I were to rerank them now based on what we know what I would do do um yeah I mean I don’t have him I didn’t have him like that high above like the makoni uh Legette like Roman Wilson you know all those guys that kind of come after tier so yeah plus a lot of the red flags I don’t think they would trade up for him I wonder if there’s some action going on with teams trying to jump the Panthers tomorrow to try to get Legette yeah I wonder if there would be some action at the back of the first round on that yeah I so I mean PK is my highest graded Receiver right now that’s on the board um I I wouldn’t trade up for him like I said I feel like him and Palmer is a tad redundant but like they do need receiver help um so for me like in terms of trading back into the first round like I think that’s a Johnny Newton conversation and maybe one of the corners yeah but I I think at receiver you can wait at 37 there’s there’s still plenty of options at 37 so far we’re only two corners off the board right with terion and quinon that is correct yes okay that is correct um I guess we could do this uh yeah that’d be an easier way to talk about best remaining players yeah I I don’t know how quickly PFF updates that though Ian’s raps talking PFF sport is very updated because they are two picks ahead oh all right so you know who’s picking right now or pick now and the next pick oh wow they’re way ahead they’re way ahead I mean it happens every year but yeah so they must be like updating it live at the like the draft itself then yeah they got to be you want to take any guesses well Ian was just talking about interior offensive line for the bucks is it Barton I’m not gonna say either way okay who was the next team after after the the Cardinals the Cardinals are the Cardinal sticking and picking yes it is the Cardinals next okay uh the Cardinals need a ton of defensive help feel like they might take a corner [Music] yeah mhj and Nate Wiggins Kool-Aid would be a pretty cool first round yes all right here’s goodal for the bucks in the 2024 NFL draft the Tampa Bay bucers announc as a center okay I thought they like their Center uh the kid from Notre Dame hany I think was he Center for them when Jensen went down or what yeah okay but I mean like I think R Barton can play anywhere I think Barton can play anywhere but left tackle so they can fill him in like basically wherever yeah they’re showing his Virginia tape his Virginia tape was so good and Virginia’s not like a great team but his tap against Florida state was awesome his tap against Clemson was awesome yeah it was uh okay so Cardinals up here is it a defensive player probably it is a defensive player okay that makes sense oh wow gr Barton left better than lacrosse there’s video imagine grah Barton playing Lacrosse oh they just showed him Trucking someone yeah that makes sense pick is already in for the Cardinals so hopefully we can speed this thing up a bit somebody just somebody’s saying Buffalo trade aren’t they at pick 28 I don’t will they trade up a little bit or they trade down oh maybe they do I don’t know I’m not caught up on anything yeah we’ll find out I’m I’m hiding in the chat again but see here comes gell already that was that was quick I like it that was really quick man Goodell’s rocking really slow come up to take Will Anderson well this is the first round pi they got n oh that is a sick jacket yeah he was on uh I think he was on pelis Aros like guys that could sneak into the first round list yeah yeah that makes sense I mean he’s uh he’s a fun player man I I liked him a lot some people have him as like an interior p rusher I think uh he just announced as an edge rusher but yeah that Georgia tape was sick no surprises with Edge so the firstes are G how fast do they run to the podium if Wiggins is available at 37 oh I as fast as Wiggins 40 time yeah because I started Wheels have started turning on that if Kool-Aid is still lingering around and Wiggins you know we also have started turning for you no I mean not necessarily that I would want quarter at that pick but just thinking that the Chargers could very well take corner at the pick there’s still value there deene still on the board too yeah Wiggins is my corner too I loved his tape the frame is like a little concerning but yeah he was physical player tackles really well the speed and ball skills are fantastic you know I like wigin quite a bit so I he’s my corner version of Devonte Smith where everyone criticizes his weight but I I don’t I don’t think that that’s a problem in his game so I I think he’s gonna be I think he’s gonna be awesome in the NFL yeah I think uh very different than like Emanuel Forbes last year because his frame was a concern because of his play style and he like actively avoided tackling yeah Wiggins likes to tackle so I think Wiggins does not avoid tackling jumping in the air yeah he’s fun that Florida State tape is great the North Carolina tape is great so yeah I like wi quite a bit let’s catch up on the super chats did we get the one from Matthew already or no uh I don’t think so say Al only allowed four sacks his career trust the process yeah his numbers are incredible for three seasons and I think only four quarterback hits in two years his like final two years so yeah good stuff there from Sean Sherman love the show thanks for all the time you guys put into this bold up thanks for being here yeah appreciate it we’ve had a really good turnout tonight appr appreciate you guys uh for tuning in tomorrow night we’ll be live again so make sure and stay tuned for that for the mock later do you want to do a three round mock uh meaning like through round four or oh sorry so like the first round and then two more rounds day two mock okay sure sure sure sure oh the Chiefs are on the clock the Chiefs traded with the BS yep oh I don’t know I don’t know the pick or anything but huh what stop doing that yeah what the hell you gave them Mahomes now gonna give them a wide receiver although are there any tackles left gon gon this could be a trade up for gon yeah I guess if the bills slide back then they would still have wide receiver if the Chiefs don’t go wide receiver yeah yeah well while we uh wait for whatever the Chiefs are cooking up uh I have to tell you guys about unified Health unified healing systems is a brand new worldclass system that is um that promotes Wellness deep relaxation purification and Rejuvenation whether here in Fresno in Orange in Orange County unfortunately no uh locations in Antiga but there are some locations in Florida so if you can go check that out in Florida it is uh very easy access and affordable to check out unified healing energy enhancement system or the E system uh if you’re interested in experiencing the new e e system for yourself go to unified healing.com guilty to learn more and find a sender near you again that is Unified healing.com guilty shout out to unified healing for supporting the show tonight if you hated that joal pick use I know who the cheaps pick is cu I looked at my phone and people are going to be mad oh no it’s I don’t know who it is I’m looking for something I’m looking for a meme people are G to be mad okay so it’s Not Gon then no definitely not so it’s gonna be I feel like um they lost Newton is what I hate the most um who we else else have we talked about oh wig uh I more mean like not so much you would hate it yourself but like Twitter would hate it oh so then it’s a receiver okay definitely a receiver okay um okay so as far as receivers go would you trade up for makoni PK’s not their kind of guy not Legette one of the Texas guys m you trade up for either M no I think this is this is AD and I I think it’s makoni but Twitter’s gonna hate it yeah does that mean because it’s a really good pick or it’s kind of like a questionable one no I mean like Chargers fans on Twitter would hate it because I think Twitter has a particular fascin so it’s Xavier worthy then yeah sure okay not that we’re high on Xavier worthy but okay if there’s one place where Xavier worthy figures it out it’s it’s it’s there we all hated the skym pick and he hasn’t done [ __ ] in the NFL we all hated the kadary Sony trade and he didn’t do [ __ ] in Kansas city either yeah they still won two Super Bowls three excuse me yeah I mean at this point they could probably run me and Tyler out there at receiver and they at least at least make the wild around the rosie play I can do that yeah I what if you’re the bills like what are you doing yeah yeah let’s give Kansas City a receiver oh my God the Xavier worthy like walk-off touchdown and in Buffalo in the divisional round next year is oh yeah oh yeah like you’ve done this thing you’ve done this like me unless unless they know the Chiefs wanted worthy and then they wanted like Adan or makon the bill the Bill’s going to get pick 32 wait so what was the conditions on that uh a third round pick I believe okay so the bills go down to 32 so then they’re going to take a receiver [Music] there the bills trading back with the Chiefs and giving them a receipt is the dumbest thing I could think of someone doing yeah pick is in I don’t I don’t like Xavier worthy the bills got 30 yeah the bills got 32 and 95 okay and the Chiefs got 28 and 133 and then the bills also got 221 okay Patrick Mahomes tweeted a runner Emoji yep that’s neat I’m fine with it yeah I mean I he’s never gonna be like a wide receiver one it’s fine yeah I I do well I am scared of Andy Reid he’s not a wide receiver one type like he’s just not a guy that you trust to throw the ball to no but I could see him being like kind of a they do have a drop issue he does have a drop also him in cold weather no thank you I feel like Andy Reid is maybe getting some like Deshawn Jackson flashbacks with this man the draft has really cleared out there’s nobody there anymore yeah once Detroit was over yeah yeah well Detroit’s not trading back up so ah Xavier worthy so I guess for me that’s the biggest reach so far of the draft yeah every else been pretty spoton yeah relative to your board or like consensus board well what was wory at in the cont sport 30 something yeah he was in the 30s yeah I wouldn’t I wouldn’t say wory was like a reach relative I mean we all think it’s a little high to take him but yeah after he ran that 40 time he was never getting out of the first round yeah uh Vanessa saying wasn’t Tyreek like a third rounder yeah he was a third rounder because he was a terrible human being not because he a bad football player yeah yeah yeah they have Holly broad Brown too I don’t I mean whatever I’m not I’m not perfect but like that’s the same player to [Music] me yeah don’t worry the bills can still beat him through the power of al-Qaeda I forgot that that was a thing for a second I was like what I don’t know that F but no no no yeah that makes oh my gosh I was chewing what will happen no I said the bills can still beat the Chiefs through the power of al-qaida um but I can’t even make the follow-up joke to that oh my gosh I think Dan is committed to the bid that every time it’s announced on TV he says the Chiefs will draft that player or the said team will draft said player yeah Chiefs man and Andy Reed signed an extension remember people thought that he was going to retire that was fun those are good times so then the Bills take Adan makon right like that would be the thought here they I guess like worthy was just way down your I don’t know like why’ you trade off a receiver yeah well I’m surprised they just kind of were like hey Chiefs you can have them yeah no kidding if they if they had traded with the Niners it would been like okay cool you but this is like the fourth time they’ve traded with the Chiefs like bro all right so who’s the outstanding player the Ravens are gonna get in a few picks Wiggins [Music] um do they need Corner not really but I think of them if they just wanted to go like best player available type thing here they need interior they need Lyman oh Tyler giden yeah oh yeah that’s a that’s a giden spot right now they have uh Ronnie Stanley who has to like rotate series at left tackle and then uh Daniel fele at right tackle oh yeah I forgot f is there but the the Cowboys could take Titan right here also oh yeah nah I’m gon to call Trey Benson right now [ __ ] Jerry Jones doesn’t care wasn’t there a thing that they were negotiating with like Zeke’s agent yesterday to bring him back to Dallas no they like posted him for a visit this week or something Louise like they’ve like their only big signing that’s even like a starter is going to be Eric Kendricks right now dog if they take running back all lap so Jonathan Brooks pick is in for the Cowboys so AFC West rankings who’s got the best first round pick so far Chiefs so Chiefs took were the Broncos took B Knicks yeah I mean it’s the Raiders right Raiders taking Powers is the best value for sure yeah yeah but I also don’t like love that because he’s him and mayor are just like weird that’s it’s a little weird and it’s not like their I mean their offensive coordinator is Luke getsy and he’s not exactly like an awesome offensive Co from the Bears yeah that kind of it’s a still AOC at quarter back and mchu money money would say that mchu would be the starter right now yeah muu right yeah it’s not like they gave muu like a $1 million thing all right here’s good L for the Cowboys with the 29th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the Dallas Cowboy s okay yeah that makes sense okay I’m surprised the Ravens didn’t try and trade up for line up yeah because they’re they’re toast now unless they want to go Cooper BB or or Jackson P Johnson if then play M guard Jackson P Johnson next to Tyler Linder bomb H that was the eighth offensive tackle in round one that’s big title dra and they could I mean the Ravens could take one the Niners could take one the bills don’t no the bills are probably good at tackle I would say but yeah if the Ravens took Kings Le super I would not I would not be surprised mhm same with the the 49ers or Rosen Garten Alex katson thinks Rosen Garten is going pick 31 yeah I could see Rosen Garten siging in there really his uh his athletic measurables are like copypaste Mike mcclinchy like he’s he’s the perfect 49ers uh yeah Patrick Paul [Music] maybe oh I haven’t looked in the comments for a bit let me see what people Thomas Martinez is saying Patrick Paul that from a measurable perspective he’s very much a Ravens offensive tackle yeah H man there’s a lot of people at that Cowboys watch party huh uh blob man I don’t know if he’s watching here in the in the chat but he quoted the graphic that he sent out about about switching sides about switching sides yeah basically offensive tackles to switch sides don’t really have a difference so h so the Vikings got McCarthy and chop Robinson is that what I’m reading no no the Dolphins got chop Robinson Dolphins got chop Robinson Vikings McCarthy and was it Dallas Turner yeah yeah yeah Turner that’s pretty sick [Music] man pick is in for the Baltimore Ravens I mean at this point are they pretty BPA or I could see them being BPA I mean I mean they don’t need Johnny Newton man but Johnny Newton and yeah Travis Jones just I mean make that work that’s pretty damn sick BPA or BPA for the Ravens um I don’t know I want another Super Chat in here he wants us to do another mock draft we’ll do one for sure as soon as it’s over yeah I’m going to say so BPA a Newton but they’re so they have too much there Wiggins probably or dein not really receiver yeah for me it would be Newton and then uh pulk or kol or Wiggins I’m sorry it would be Newton Wiggins pulk in that order for me I would take Wiggins wi they don’t have much opposite of marlin no wiggin would be best available they had to uh they lost Rock Yasin who started for them and then the slock eye they returned the slock eyye but I don’t think they have an outside corner Goodell’s walking out three more picks to go that’s funny J y there we [Music] go that’s a really good pick every single year man Rens get who they want man they always get somebody good it’s ridiculous unbelievable two more picks 49ers and then the bills and then we’re on to round two do you guys see that uh John Harbaugh texted Jim Harbaugh that the Joe Walt pick was what he would have done did he really Hara said that yeah it’s funny I wonder if uh has poer done an article yet he did an in reaction but not a press conference reaction yeah so yeah Shane points out we’ve said this but crazy how fast the offensive tackles are gone happy we took all article I wrote that was the first point like this is a it’s gonna I didn’t think we’d be here eight the first round that’s pretty crazy yeah yeah yeah it was always going to be like six or seven I would say like a minimum but yeah you know now we’re talking about like Rosen Garten or somebody going here maybe this is a wide receiver but they don’t really have a right tackle right now they you mean the 49ers uh Cooper de’s still being here too the bills do need Corner help they could take Jin they cut Trey white yeah that’s true I feel like the bills will still take wide receiver for some reason yeah they probably should but maybe just that they didn’t like worthy enough I don’t know yeah like yeah my next highest graded tackle offensive tackle will be Blake fiser but then it like that it’s Blake Fischer Patrick Paul Rosen gar that’s it like those guys what do you have Blake fer on your board too 50s uh he was 48 okay Paul Patrick Paul I had at 63 yeah I got Paul at 68 Kingsley at 64 fiser pretty close where is he 72 two more pigs that a mock hey buddy there’s I don’t want to be the person to say this do it I know the fan base is in a very sensitive time right now but there’s a nonzero chance that they take Corum at 37 oh yeah there’s definitely a non-zero chance they take Corum at 37 that would be really stupid yeah that would be a whole different thing because I mean like look at the players that are still potentially on the board I mean you’re talking about a really good receiver board still you’re talking about a a good cornerboard you could take your center of the future and I would totally get it you know actually well non-zero chance they take Corum but if they want to do the Michigan Pander pick it would definitely be Coulson right coulson’s still there if they want to do that s still Coulson s still I would take Coulson just because linebacker gets disastrous on yeah after that but I just like Joseph point out like Joe Ortiz you know this this front office to me seems too smart to take a an old running back on at pick 37 like I don’t know man you know Alex didn’t Jinx didn’t make it happen but now that Stephen said that it’s gonna happen if it does I’m sorry no I I think they go Chris Jenkins I think I thinks sril and Jenkins are more likely in round two and then Cor was probably like a round three proposition yeah I just don’t think it’s impossible but Dane Brugler was talking about this with the athletic guys this week and he he thinks that if corm is there at 69 that’s where he would take him not at 37 for what it’s worth our silence speaks for itself Corum over Jaylen right oh man that’s great Corum over any of the other running backs [Music] [Music] speaking follow wouldn’t they want to trade him for a first round pick or or if they could trade him tomorrow night what would the considerations be in your mind with uh with a well just because the first round picks are gone tonight and they’re going to be in about two they can get first round value like you at some of the teams early Patriots commanders two teams potentially still looking for a receiver they both pick early tomorrow night so they could package those picks with a couple later round picks and make up the value of a one if that’s enough for the San Francisco 49ers to do it interesting thanks very much mention command all right so Brandon iuk trade potentially happening tomorrow oh really well I mean like that that’s what Ian R war was just talking about I clearly was paying attention yeah have you guys seen the tip of the spear graphic posted by the social media team oh okay wow all right didn’t expect that one which one the 49ers pick yeah sorry you know when you try to find oh I already looked at it too I just didn’t say anything we are at that point of the draft I guess tip of the spear it is gonna be funny seeing Joe Alta tackle and ran Slater like two extremely different body types should I just look and see who they pick two oh here’s Goodell anyway yeah Frank they took Blake Corum at 31 [Music] please whoa yeah yeah I didn’t expect that all right he I told Tyler that he was better than makoni I don’t know if Xavier worthy was better than either no no no no definitely not works I I liked Ricky piol a lot but so if the bills don’t take him here Adonai could be available at 37 yeah uh yep and pass on Malik neighbors and then ad Mitchell for uh alt and Cooper B man Ricky Piera to the Niners is a great fit for him that’s no that’s that’s fantastic I had him at 39 I like piol great hands yeah the dude has insane body control like he’s he’s such he’s such a ner he loves to block just tough phal yeah yeah and iuk potentially getting traded huh wait are the Panthers trading up oh yep Panthers just traded up this has to be a receiver then why would you trade up one spot though nothing to me who traded out the bills so the bills do not have a first round pick okay Panthers traded up look at them Pi in the first round bills will be at 33 yeah okay that actually helps Panther for receiver Legette then so the the Panthers or the bills got 33 and 141 for 32 and 200 okay so they trade up they basically just trade up 60 spots from round yeah six yes some people are pointing out in the chat if they want a Fier option on the receiver that’s like a reason to I guess do it yeah okay open tomorrow with a receiver or a corner I think they have to open with a receiver Thomas Martinez thinking it’s Xavier Legette he apparently visited with the Panthers like 20 times yeah think has to be the G man if this is the run on receivers receiver goes early tomorrow yeah because tomorrow so ‘s pick or not excuse me the Buffalo pick yeah Patriots will probably take a receiver right yeah they need a receiver or an offensive tackle so I guess they could take suuma but yeah maybe Arizon don’t need a receiver they pick again at 35 that’s a great setup for them Washington doesn’t need a receiver so it really just comes down to what happens after New England New England feels very L lad makoni [Laughter] but it’s an obvious connection why why why do you think they’re very lad makoni because he’s very talented I think I think the way he runs routs is just really reminds me of a lot of the great Patriot yeah yeah who would you say his uh his comparison is Tyler um julan edman Danny no no I think lad makoni just stands on his own there’s no comparison for him yeah U Nate T’s compared him to Emanuel Sanders and I actually really like that one sure I couldn’t hog did he play lacrosse yeah did he really no I don’t dude with a name like lad makoni I wouldn’t be surprised hold on I’m gonna google did lad makoni play L I feel like a lad makoni had to play lacrosse yeah Rex is asking if we can do a mock to 37 yeah so we’ll do a day two mock yeah so we’ll do yeah once PF updates whatever this next pick is then uh yeah yep two two round mock guys how dare We we forgot to mention Wes Welker in that conversation wow why West Walker yeah why West Walker Stephen oh man I think we’ve hit our quota for uh for jokes like that tonight after we got plent of time on day two and day three yeah exactly oh man dude we’ve been streaming for over four hours Tyler yeah 4 hours and 20 minutes happy 420 5 days after 420 did we just get demonetized Thomas Martinez said Will Compton would be ashamed oh the all white person is all black team I have a goodel walking out yep hey the the allh team is getting a new addition tomorrow with kuber deene heck yeah man the of first round but you knows kind of it here’s the Panthers wrapping up the night the Buffalo Bills have traded the 32 to the Carolina Panthers with the 32 pick in the 2024 NFL draft Xavier it’s pronounced Li okay I didn’t know that all right there’s the first round of the 2024 NFL Draft so makoni Adonai didn’t get drafted who the other Roman Wilson still there Jaylen pul pkon Coleman yeah that’s probably it who who was it on Twitter was it Schultz today that said somebody compared uh Coleman Keenan Allen yeah I was like every year that happens and this is like the latest that it has happened so why is it always the worst yeah like just not anywhere close dog you could have said like Mike Williams if you wanted to went with like the completely wrong answer yeah no two years ago they compared Drake London to Keenan Allen like you gota be kidding me guys yeah like faster Keenan Allen like faster Keon colan can run [ __ ] for routes it is what it is Al righty all right you guys uh end of round one 2024 appreciate you for tuning in we’ll do a quick mock has some final thoughts uh and then tomorrow Tyler and I will be back on here uh did we decide at a time at 3:30 because tomorrow starts at 4 right sure all right tomorrow at 3:30 um okay let’s get this uh first this day two mock up here on the board right um if we’re not moving up I’ll start the draft all right uh you know this is the thing that would always happen in the mock but like I didn’t think it would actually happen yeah can you scroll up a bit to see who went oh sure yeah so uh Dee went at 33 then pulk went to the Patriots Mak sense Cardinals took a receiver for some reason um so ad Mitchell’s off the board I guess and then Andis Rick straw is gone to the Washington commanders yeah I mean outside of Mitchell I think that’s a totally reasonable first few picks there but yeah I think so man this board is just like that’s so freaking good yeah that’s an outstanding grouping right there for the Chargers so for those if you’re listening to audio I don’t even know if I’m cutting up audio Johnny Newton’s available KOA mckinstry Jackson po Johnson Troy Franklin pton Wilson Tyler nuban lad makoni Zack Fraser Mike sander Adisa Isaac Etc um it’ll kill Twitter Jan but I’m I’m going with the best player available by a long margin here yeah uh can you look at the the team who’s interested in trading real quick sure that is the lions at pick 61 okay that’s a no for me um 61’s way too far down I would consider trading down a few spots in this instance and I I think the Chargers could could be as well but yeah take a scroll down this list man there’s a lot of good players here on this board for the Chargers at 37 yeah so receivers specifically Franklin makoni Coleman Wilson Corley that grouping obviously we’re do we’re doing two more round here interior if they wanted Jackson Powers Johnson and Frasier are both here yep which what like definitely one will be there tomorrow yep so that’s a huge win I am so the corners in case anyone was wondering yeah let’s pull up corner I think that’s s still we we all agree that Johnny Newton in terms of chargers board here would be highest graded player probably I would think so but my question here I guess is like the medical thing with his foot that might be why he’s falling and same thing with Kool-Aid same thing with jpj like the three of these guys do have some medical question marks here you know just a matter of like how much is that a thing so Newton would be my pick here obviously you know he’s a top 10 player for me but the medical thing like that’s that’s really kind of making me have a little pause if that’s why he’s didn’t go in the first round gotcha and J Tim for p Johnson and mckinstry yeah so the cleanest next three players are probably makoni Frasier sandrell yeah yeah I didn’t I didn’t love Coleman I mean I like him decent enough I definitely not love Troy Franklin but I would understand why that would be the pick because me too you know he’s he’s a deep threat kind of pick so I would say the pick that I would feel most comfortable with in this scenario would be lad but I I would agree so if we’re not taking Newton in this scenario I would love to see them trade down if this is the board because whatever like at this point we can trade down and force to trade with somebody else they could they could trade down to like I played around with this a little bit like to yeah 44 is or like 47 and like get an extra fourth yeah like that the Saints like and you pick up I think I traded back with the Giants once yeah yeah I’ve done the Giants one too um what would they pick it doesn’t matter but we can just we can just pick a team I yeah you could just do a team I would say I mean you’re probably not gonna trade with the Raiders but the Jaguars now have a bunch of picks you could do the Jaguars if you wanted to yeah Jaguars pick they T they picked Brian Thomas so they could come up for a corner yeah all right let’s do that so they have 48 and they have 96 is that enough yeah yeah totally that’s wise yeah okay you can do that or like the two fourth rounders yeah yeah we could do 48 and 96 for 37 all right let’s give it a whir I’d like to see them trade down so that’s fine with me hopefully receiver still works out here we go fingers crossed fingers crossed wait didn’t I just do this what happened oh I’m already here yay all right Johnny Newton still available uh wait the round two on the left still says that the pcks are upcoming there’s nobody no oh what up happened uh you have to rest like starting on the right it still says you’re at 37 so but I’ve traded back to 48 what happened uh okay let’s try it again I guess did they reject my forced trade did I get reverse Uno carded I don’t think they can reject your forced trade 48’s not even on the board anymore is the simulator just like frozen maybe did it just die because too many people are on it right now try refreshing the page I can’t it’ll take me away from the thing I mean we can run it oh someone said in the chat did you select 37 oh yeah because you have 37 and 48 in this so you forgot to send them 37 so all right so here’s what we’re gonna do folks two picks and then you get zero PS all right so we’re going to go way down uh to the very end of this board and we’re going to take Marshall the fourth the tight end from Sacramento State 37 oh my gosh all right pretend that didn’t happen didn’t happen but okay all right so what really happened is we traded back yeah um Titans went John koa’s gone Etc so the board currently if we trade back to 48 uh we have Sandra still available Troy Franklin Sanders Javon Bard Chris Jenkins of course I’m not goingon to say that guy running back’s name Kamari ler uh was you know who it did you just say wait what when Alex asked who it was did you what did you say back to him West Walker Oh I thought you said ass I no I would never say that um I think that in this instance I think you’re taking Sam still or Jenkins uh I’ll go at that point I think s makes sense okay cool traded back took s still now no no no no no let’s just board wide receiver just the board wide receiver just killed us by the way uh Jermaine Burton great that’s your best available TZ Walker Walker baby T Walker’s like unavoidable somehow dude if uh if Tom Tesco was still here he’d probably take Johnny Wilson Johnny Wilson baby yeah that’s the tallest of tall yeah Tak yeah I would take Baker a walker don’t have a pref I mean I have a preference Baker’s fine with me I have a very clear preference of Baker fine sorry I do not like does Walker very much that’s fine I I have Bak over Walker anyway so it’s totally fine cool um okay Baker Javon Baker from UCF wonderful V have 96 though we also have 96 we this we have Joe Al don’t forget I took a tight end at 37 yeah yeah Joe Al Mikey Zer still and Javon Baker here on this day two s okay so we’re looking at uh I mean honestly I wouldn’t hate Cooper BB here uh M McCormack already went Renardo green went so we’re looking for like an outside corner could look at running back obviously we pick again at 105 and 1110 so plenty of players are going to be available later oh my God gosh Michael Hall Michael Hall is hated wait did we take a DT no not yet not so on I mean by the board we could wait but by my thought process like I would take real life I would be okay taking Michael Hall at like 44 but yeah I would be fine taking Michael Hall okay sure let’s do that Michael Hall so the second best pass rusher in the class that nobody seems to like yeah do not understand do not understand at all all right so our Hall is Joe alt Marshall Martin the four I want you I want you to screenshot this and put it on Twitter with no context of what happened Martin the there everybody’s just gonna the Jaguars just sent us Pick 4 96 for no reason buy charity he’s just feeling so kind yeah I appreciate that um Max Sanders still 48 Javon Baker at 69 then with the extra pick we took Michael Hall so I don’t love having moved off of lad makoni at that point but I yeah Hall is pretty good so it’s the risk yeah I think um I’ve just been a fan of trading down on day two because it just gives you that you can potentially get another top 100 pick here yeah wouldn’t be like too different so you could trade down in the third round or or whatever but I think with the way that the board fell with still some good receivers still some good corners on the board I think the Chargers can get a nice little haul here for trading down if they really wanted to yeah I probably I don’t know if they’ll trade down now though to going be too good yeah depending on the value of 37 I guess it depends kind of like stevenh said how they evaluate each one of those guys as like Medicals That Could Fall different teams will have different opinions on all that but yeah yep all right we got one more uh Super Chat in here uh K Rich says we didn’t get mha or neighbor so it’s not the 50 bomb but alt still a solid move appreciate all you guys do it’s kilus from Discord by the way hag appreciate you Kil just for uh jumping in tonight what’s up man man we got 57 super chats tonight that’s awesome we we love you guys man that’s that’s super super awesome all right we are over four hours in here um Alex we’ll start with you man uh final thoughts as we adjust to the Joe Al life and and move into day two yeah I mean this was expected um I I don’t think they I think looking back they were pretty transparent about their process the whole time um not thrilled with the pick as you know I think most fans aren’t on various levels but this is what you get when you get Jim Harbaugh and they’re going to build the team their way um really curious to see just how they build out the skill positions now in the draft because as Tyler said or as Tyler just showed there on the mock draft like gets pretty murky you know and they’re still be like some non premium guys that they still could pick over Corner over wide receiver over some of those positions depending on how round three goes out like we talked about earlier um some of the Michigan guys so I’ll be I’ll be curious to see what they do um but I still think there’s a lot of talent for them on the board at 37 yeah the the talent on the board at 37 is fantastic they’re getting a good player they can stick and pick they can trade back they probably stick and pick or if they trade back it’s very minimal I like what a lot of these teams have been doing they trade back like one or two and pick up a fourth rounder yeah that’s been really solid for them so yeah I don’t mind them trading down sticking picking is totally fine um yeah how they B skill position we’ll see do they care you know I think I think Corner would be prioritized over receiver like they don’t have a body out there a corner yeah whereas you can they’ve already lined up receivers they can sign after the draft so yeah I’m just I’m just very curious how much they care about receiver at all and I asked I mean we asked poer Point Blank like could they go basically most of the draft without taking a receiver they might Max Melton the 37 not with the guys that are on the board yeah it’s a little yeah you’re you’re not not too far off though like an trade down I’d be for it I can’t do it with mckinstry on the board or eler but I you’re yeah I could be convinced yeah man I mean the cornerback board is is pretty stacked for me I mean I like I keep on saying this I love Jaylen pulk and stuff like that but you know the receiver board has definitely dried up and I think it dries up more tomorrow but I mean Cooper dein’s still on the board K mckinstry is still on the board um s ril is still on the board obviously we really liked Kyrie Jackson and Kamari Lasser you know so this this cornerback board is probably where I would look if you know there there’s no Johnny Newton on the table because of Medicals and we know the geores loves his Alabama players so maybe Kool-Aid is kind of a pick there I know he’s did KO de jeene have anything medical like related no I mean he he had the the leg surgery but he’s he’s healthy like he tested and ran really well and things like that he’s considered yeah kind of cleared medically and ready to rock so I I think my attention kind of goes towards corner at 37 or like Tyler said you trade down a couple of spots and yeah and if you can get that extra fourth rounder pick and then you can kind of double dip at wide receiver you know later on I know the fans will will hate that but oh no I mean I I just think the value of corner at 37 is just way better than that of Receiver right now so I mean with the way the board crumbled with Quin and you know terion coming off the board as late as they did so as much as people won’t want to hear corner like it is the best like value for them on the board outside of like maybe uh Johnny Newton depending on how they view his medical yeah uh shom man asking if we’re higher on the DT or Corner class after round two I think definitely corner corner has some good guys that I I like on day three you know there’s Jen Jones there’s DJ James there’s uh some other guys there DD does kind of dry up a bit if especially if you want like an instant impact guy so yeah man I I I think either one of those those make sense you know it’s going to be fun to see man this board worked out really well because there were eight offensive tackles or nine offensive linemen that went some receivers five quarterbacks so charger in a good spot heading into day two tomorrow all right guys any other final thoughts before we head out for the night excited for uh round too and God bless Chargers fans if they don’t take a receiver yeah we uh we’ve done a lot of homework on day two so I’m excited to see how that one pans out maybe see the Chargers train down a bit and uh get some extra pick here so Alex Tyler appreciate you guys uh you guys in the chat have been awesome tonight can’t thank you enough for all the super chats for the great comments hopefully you’ve had a good time uh being in here you know Good Vibes hopefully after the Joe all pick so uh it’ll all work out it’s going to be fine uh Joe’s gonna be a good player for this Chargers team have no doubt about that um we’ll be live tomorrow starting at 3:30 uh as we prepare for the second day of the draft that’s going to do it for ice this is the go charge podcast as always bolt up
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Tyler's jacket is fire
Ladd McConkey did play lacrosse. He played at Blue Mountain State
They got a Blue Chip player at 5! You can't ask for more.
AND there is a ton of talent left for 37! Cooper DeJean, Kool-Aid, Jer'Zhan Newton, JPJ.
I just hope they take BPA again, and not reach on a Michigan player
A Captain and 3 Year Starter at Notre Dame!
In 775 pass sets, the last 2 seasons, Joe Alt allowed 1 sack.
Told you guys. We ain't picking a soccer player at 5. Also told ya no way Jordan Morgan doesn't get drafted in round one.
I don't agree with needing surplus value for a trade down from 5. If Hortiz did get a fair trade, he should have taken it.
This is an extreme scenario that would never happen, but the top 7 picks in the 3rd round are equivalent to the number 5 overall pick (using the Jimmy Johnson trade chart). I would much rather take the top 7 (8 including our existing 3rd rounder) players in the 3rd round than Joe Alt, and I'll tell you exactly who I'd take once the 2nd round is done on Day 2.
The Chargers need more bodies, not fewer guys even if they're really good. Obviously I think 6 extra picks is a bit overkill, and a more likely one would have been trading out of the 1st round completely for 2 2nds and 3 3rds depending on where they are.
I'm just doing the top 7 of the 3rd round because it's easy to set up to prove a point.