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hello ladies and gentlemen boys and
girls let’s get right into it my next
guest is a well-respected journalist
right here in St John’s newf land and we
once shared broadcasting
duties as we covered the qmjhl for the
St John’s fog devils in the mid 2000s
he’s one of my favorite media
personalities in the world with an
affinity for classic rock classic films
and classic hockey cards he’s worked in
Pro Hockey as the Director of
communications for the AHL St John’s ice
caps and is a good dad and good friend
he is a jazzy journalist a fabulous fan
a dynamite dad a blissful broadcaster a
reliable reporter an amazing Atlantic
Canadian he’s a king’s college grad and
a fabulous dad he takes long naps and
work for the ice caps he’s good with a
word and is a pop culture nerd he knows
a guy named Max and lived in Halifax he
doesn’t like to litter and is vocal on
Twitter he’s never been to Brooks and is
smarter than he looks oh how I lie he’s
a decent looking guy if it’s a hint that
you crave his first name is Dave folks
the great Wayne Gretzky had a father
named Walter please welcome to the show
My Pal David Suter Dave how you doing
I’m great uh you know that was uh
impressive and I know you did your
research cuz the napping part you
definitely got that down I don’t know
how you knew that but it’s true anyone
that knows me I love the nap how about
that jacket you’re wearing where does
this come there’s always a little modern
Touch of nostalgia it’s funny people ask
me you know who’s your favorite team or
who’s your and and and I’m gonna name
drop here I remember Pat Stapleton the
former team Canada 72 Chicago Blackhawks
guy I remember he was here for Bob
Cole’s old uh golf tournament you used
to have anyways I was chatting with Pat
one time and he was blown away with kind
of my hockey history knowledge and stuff
and he said you’re not a hockey fan he
said you’re a hockey historian and I
think that’s probably more accurate than
what I am so so the Kings and all the
old uh gear and memorabilia and stats
and facts and stuff that’s kind of my
bag yeah so you know what have you ever
met Liam Maguire you know what we
connected on Facebook and Twitter and
stuff but it’s so so funny you say that
um you know he’s someone on my bucket
list that I that I I want to meet uh
because I sort of feel like we’re
kindred spirits and and I’ve heard about
him for for decades uh going back to my
years even in University people would
drop his name in it so I’ve always sort
of felt like he’s kind of been around
and I’ve heard of him but uh and like I
said we’ve connected on social media but
I would love to meet him I think we we’d
get along be a real hockey
nerdfest yeah yeah you definitely would
I met him a few years ago I always
wanted to I’d read some of his stuff and
he’s like one of those guys too well I
remember I sat down with him I thought
he was kidding he said I can name you
any team that ever won the copy goes
that’s a joke I could have done that 20
years ago but he goes anyway I said come
on I I how about 1912 he told me I said
what and then I went okay and then then
he started to elaborate who was the KMI
tropy winner when I asked him about like
1952 and very very specific Stu up in
his head it’s one thing to do the
research it’s another one thing to
retain all of it that’s right um and
anyway not to make this about me but we
were talking the other night guess it is
my podcast um anyway but he’s going to
look into it he thinks that my 21 years
in between games is a Guinness World
Record so he’s like you I was approached
by somebody and they asked me that and I
said I have no idea how to figure that
out and I just assumed it was Gordy how
because he played that game remember in
the late 90s because he wanted to play
in like every five six decades in a row
but my buddy brought it up he’s like
yeah but he played in 1981 though it was
like 19 years in between 21 you might so
who knows Liam would be would be one of
those guys that would know that but you
C in the running yeah that’s absolutely
right he would be now not to and a lot
of people don’t realize I was playing
senior hockey the whole time and and and
actually skating with The Growlers you
not not their team with Matt Cook but
you know when it especially in the
summer they have a skate that’s ongoing
oh once in a while over the years you
know they Black Aces down there for the
guys that are injured that sort of thing
um but anyway anyway I’m not here for
that reason you’re here in St John’s now
right and your daughter’s here correct
just ask because every once in a while
you’re gravitate you’re from Halifax my
daughter and actually my daughter’s in
Halifax now uh and she’s pursuing a
career in music but my son James is uh
is here in St John’s with me he’s
finally got into sports he was he didn’t
pursue hockey or anything but he plays
volleyball and he loves it but uh yeah
know I’m here and like I said I’ve had a
pretty what I say wild but I I suppose
well traveled would be would be a good
way to describe it I I keep pin
pinballing pinballing back forth to New
Finland but I did the math the other day
and after I moved out of my parents home
and I think that was in the early 9s
I’ve I’ve had 22 different
addresses yeah so it’s funny my partner
she moved in with me recently and she
was complaining God love her uh about
the move and everything else and I was
like 22 baby 22 times so I moved around
a lot um but predominantly in in
Atlantic Canada in the past now of that
I want to get your opinions on some
recent stuff but of those jobs how did
you like how did you enjoy being the
director of communications for the ice
caps because that was you know that’s
probably the the best hockey quote
unquote hockey job you’ve had I ass I
did some scouting with the Worcester
railers actually when I was in Halifax I
scouted uh um University hockey there
for them that was pretty cool but but
and I made some great friends that I’m
still still in friends with and that’s
the great thing as you know more than
anyone the hockey world the connections
you have I mean I can Pro probably go
anywhere especially because of my time
with the ice caps you know in in North
America certainly the United States and
and have someone I could you know have a
beer with or whatever but um yeah the
ice caps was awesome I mean working for
Danny Williams who’s just the Class Act
uh who who owned the team and Glenn
Stanford who ran the team was just just
as good as it gets and uh you know
having that affiliation with the
Winnipeg Jets and then the Montreal
Canadians the Canadians were so classy
such a classy organization to deal with
the Jets too but the Canadians is just
another level and I grew up a Montreal
Canadians fan actually so uh that was a
really neat experience and then of
course the John Scott stuff I did all
the communications around that pretty
much by myself because the Montreal
Canadians really didn’t want any part of
it you know when the whole came with the
allstar game and and I remember yeah
finding out that he was going to the
allstar game because there was that
controversy was was even going to be
eligible to go because he was in the
American Hockey League at the time and I
remember calling the Canadians because
you always wanted to run by things with
them we never wanted to act
independently when it was players that
they owned and they owned all our
players basically um I’m calling him and
saying look what do we do what what’s
going on like I’m starting to get some
phone calls and they said Remember the
comms guy His Name Escapes me right now
but also very classy guys he said to me
he said David he’s your player it’s
yours and I was like okay oh yeah and
then the phone calls just started coming
in all over North America and and I had
to set up a news conference in um from
St John’s because I didn’t often travel
with the team a news conference in it
was just I think it was in Bridgeport
Connecticut because it was near ESPN
which is in Bristol Connecticut and so
there’s just a was that was crazy and
then of course he goes to the all-star
game and then he’s the allstar game
MVP and uh it was Bonkers I mean I I was
thinking about it today um Mitch album
uh the famous writer you know and
Tuesdays with my yeah sent up a
researcher then to to to meets John and
everything else and took me out to
dinner for a movie that a screenplay
that he was apparently writing I don’t
know what ever happened to it but that
was Bonkers I mean I worked in in
government Communications in New Finland
and in in Nova Scotia as well and and
I’ve done you know some some interesting
things I suppose I don’t know if the
public would find it that interesting
but the John Scott stuff around the ice
caps was just Bonkers and and so cool
and he’s such a a good guy to deal with
so that was definitely the most because
again you know NBC ESPN I mean it was
arguably one of the biggest sports store
well was one the sport stories of the
year in North America right and so that
was cool you know uh kind of being the
point guy for that and and developing a
relationship with John I think it would
make top 50 depending on who you’re
talking to for the decade yeah mean you
know guy guy gets traded from from
Arizona to Montreal demoted to St John
so basically Arizona to St John’s they
couldn’t send him to Siberia the closest
they could find was St John’s right from
Arizona one end of the continent to the
other I never thought about that yeah
from Arizona to St John which are
opposite for so many reasons yeah and
and tried to bury him there and hoped it
would just go away in St John’s you know
in Siberia that’ll just and it never did
and uh and uh yeah it was crazy I
remember when when the trade happened I
was like oh my God because we knew what
was happening this whole thing you know
with the All-Star game was started when
he was in Phoenix so that’s why he was
traded was to just banish him and hope
it would go away yeah so when that trait
happened I was like oh my God this is
going to be the biggest uh thing to to
happen in my career because I just knew
where this was going I remember John
called me and uh he’s like what this at
this point he didn’t know what if he was
going to go to the all-star game or if
he was going to take his name uh out of
it because of course the NHL didn’t want
him doing it I remember the first phone
call I ever had with him he’s like what
do you think I should do I was like
you’re asking me I don’t know talk to
your agent talk to your family you know
but I was kind of flattered I suppose in
a strange way that he would even ask
what what I thought of it because we had
never even really met before or hadn’t
met at all actually so so that was cool
that was just a great experience and we
had the cder cup run in 2014 uh which
was awesome and you still see a couple
of those guys um you know Josh Mory and
and Lowry and Winnipeg huk was kind of
just I think he was like he traveled
with us a little bit in that playoffs
series but didn’t play but uh of course
later he did with the ice caps so so no
that was the ice caps experience was was
awesome it was first class and uh and it
was it was definitely a highlight for me
and something I wanted to do speaking of
local hockey okay you just said that you
just reminded me there the St John’s ice
caps went on a run yeah think of the run
that The Growlers just went on now you
made some of all the people that
commented and I was asked I didn’t know
all the facts behind the scenes I knew
that the deal wasn’t desirable with the
City I knew that and and and I think
paying for like most if not all of the
travel and I knew it wasn’t a great deal
I didn’t see it shutting down halfway
through the year and again because a lot
of things for me the thing that
frustrated me was I get so many messages
as you can imagine and so many people
wanted an answer and so many media and
fans and everything from from other
places I tried to tell them I said it’s
not like we had 300 fans a game that’s
the way it’s projected and they said and
a lot of people they lost their 15 no we
did
we didn’t lose any pro team that we we
technically we lost them from our city
but we didn’t lose them because of lack
of fans they moved because NHL teams
wanted to bring them closer as you would
I totally understand it but the way they
framed that whole story was as if
there’s no fans going to the games right
and that we’ve lost another one why give
them but can you can you straighten out
some of that for people might listen
because you know I’m not that close to
the situation with The Growlers and you
know as a reporter here in town I
interviewed Dean McDonald you know a few
times about things and and to be honest
I never really felt like I was getting
the complete story of the situation um
and I’m not a devoted sports reporter I
mean we miss Robin short at times like
this the investigative Journal do as a
sports reporter so you know I would kind
of maybe do a story and then I wouldn’t
do one for for you know months uh on on
The Growlers but here’s my take on it as
you said uh we lost the St John’s map
Leafs to Toronto we lost the me the the
St John’s ice caps .1 to Winnipeg we
lost to St John’s Z caps uh two to
Montreal so they all went to their not
nearby basically the same city so you
know that that had nothing to do with
necessarily with the geography of St
John’s they were just moving it to their
Hometown for salary cap reasons the
browler situation was different this was
a team that we owned outright so we had
a little bit more control or a lot more
control in this situation um you know I
know from my experience of the ice caps
and being somewhat close to it the city
of St John’s has been difficult deal
with with Mary Brown Center Etc uh with
the lease and all that stuff but
ultimately what came down to The
Growlers was that they weren’t paying
their bills at the end of it and we
heard stories that this had been going
on for for a while uh with the Growers
which is unfortunate and and then they
blame the the city of St John’s But
ultimately in my opinion if you sign a
deal and you agree to those terms you
have to pay your bills you can’t say
well our deal really sucked and that’s
why it didn’t work well you signed that
deal you know the onus is on you
ultimately to pay those bills and then I
guess at the end of the day they
couldn’t and the team left what shocked
me in some
ways I of shocked actually when I think
about it with eight games left I think
it was in the in the regular season or
six games yeah six games and they were
all home games that’s unheard of and I
think that speaks to the utter
frustration that the ECHL had with the
Growers organization that they they
couldn’t come to some agreement here
just to play out the year because I I
you know I kind of went through the
history books and I remember the San
Frisco spiders the ECHL folded halfway
through the season I remember the there
was an Albany Choppers of the uh I think
they were in the American Hockey League
but it was or was the IHL I think it was
the IHL uh again you know Midway through
the season there’s there’s been a few of
those over over over time but not this
late in in in a in a season and I think
it just speaks to the issues that the
ECHL had with the Growers management
that uh there was no love loss there and
I think it was probably there there was
issues of payment and money that had
been going on for a while and I think uh
you know there was no um no sense of you
know among the the other owners in the
ECHL or no sympathy I should say
probably among the other owners for for
that franchise I think they just were
just had enough and it and it clearly
speaks volumes that they had enough that
they were saying we don’t care if
there’s six games left or two games left
we’re not paying a penny to help you out
or we’re not going to reach out um you
know or reach into our own Pockets to to
help you so I think that says something
about the frustration that the other
team team in the league and and the
league you know head off has had with
with the with the grows for them to let
that happen it it sounded like not
spiteful but just I like I said I don’t
I I I think there was no love kind of
spiteful yeah you know I don’t think
there was any love loss with the ECHL
and the scary thing is I said Terry um
you know on Twitter um is that I don’t
know where this leaves us um he was not
coming back I did some Communications
with the Memorial Cup and Halifax and
talked to toh some of the I was David
Branch actually and I don’t think he’s
there anymore but he’ been there forever
running the CH and I think it was B
Bobby Smith as well I talked to a few
people there about you know St John’s I
think they had ever come back the Q
would ever come back no I don’t think
there’s any interest in that League
coming back and that’s the league that
really makes the most sense for us
Junior Hockey of course as you mentioned
me and you did the TV games for The
Growlers and sorry with sorry with the
fog devils and uh but uh it didn’t work
here I think it was mismanaged and I
don’t think we’ll get a second chance
with that unfortunately it was though so
I remember that now I remember of all
the teams the fog Devils got the least
fans is that because we’re not
interested in junior hockey or was it
mismanaged I really don’t know
because yeah go ahead sorry I think it’s
it’s a bit of both I don’t think they
really had hockey people there like a
Glenn Stanford or someone like that
probably would have helped um and I
think there’s there was just a real
snobbery or or ignorance uh from hockey
fans here about Junior Hockey um um and
they just didn’t really understand how
good it was I think they were coming
right from having the St John’s Maple
lefs Toronto’s direct farm team as well
right even even in unsuccessful years
you’ve got big-time prospects and there
was a lot like remember at the beginning
Felix poin Yanik perau even I remember a
couple of down years Donald mlan gets 58
goals like you know leads the lead
there’s all kinds of things that there
was reasons to watch and I I found we
ran out of those I liked it but a lot of
fans seem to not dig it as much yeah and
I think you’re right we we were kind of
spoiled with with that great
relationship with the tronto cind it’s a
shame because I don’t think like I said
there’s any interest in the queue coming
back because they have territorial
rights to the players here uh in in
Newland and that’s ultimately I think
all they’re interested in I think the
thing with Newland it’s it’s not an easy
place to get to it’s a pain in the
Earths to to get to St John’s for for
for the for the rest of these teams that
are coming and the expenses that that
that that our teams have incurred in in
paying the expenses of the visiting
teams etc etc so the queue is out um the
AHL will never come back because we see
the NHL teams wanting their AHL teams
right next door or close by so the AHL
is out and ECHL I think we we just
didn’t burn some bridges there you know
we blew them up we torched them so what
about like the Southern Pro like what we
I mean where does it go and that’s the
ultimate those leagues I think that the
Southern Pro and I I don’t if there’s
the western or Central the central
League I think some of them look I don’t
want to bus leagues like they’re bus
leagues League senior caps the The
Herder Champs could beat them I don’t
I’m not down on you know just look at
the look at the resumes of both yeah and
I’m not putting that down I love that
you can still I was just down in
Binghamton they got an E Federal league
is a and they sell it out I mean
whatever it’s each their own I totally
I’m not but I’m just saying in ter I
watched the hockey I’ve seen it I’ve
looked at resumes guys have come from
the federal League here and gotten cut
from the senior teams yeah yeah right
now our senior here is second to none in
Canada our league overall and the Shore
Breakers who you know we go a year late
just just to fill people in that are
listening just for money raising
purposes so Southern Shore Breakers are
going to the Allen cup they did they
didn’t make the final this year but they
have a chance to win like new fin it
works if you finish last you get the
draft first so there’s a lot of parody
it’s a whole Little League we got going
that’s a really awesome League that you
could probably consider Semi-Pro if you
if you in relation to those other but I
mean you know yeah probably paying more
money down there and it’s more marketed
around you know you know it’s still a
pro hockey Venture but it’s just those
last few rungs are no better than senior
and people got that here so why wouldn’t
they just go watch senior caps you’re
right you know my favorite hockey to
watch though Terry and the one we
haven’t touched on is University hockey
in and I scouted hockey there aadia
University I love that burn uh the old
Halifax Forum you know watching SM and
Dal sm’s got their own rank now but just
that charm of that that building which
is about a 100 years old the Halifax
forum uh and unb right now I mean that
Juggernaut they would be a competitive
uh ECHL team I mean when I was Scouting
For The ECHL I could never get unb
players because they were going to NHL
or a they were signing AHL Deals they
wanted like an NHL deal or AHL deal um
they wouldn’t even look at the ECHL uh
know unb guys right so that’s hockey
that would be amazing here um but
there’s just no appetite at Memorial
University for Varsity Sports why I
don’t understand if they had it Dave and
you know what if they had it it would be
like when the uh I think I think it’ be
like when the St John’s Edge came here
and Carl English and all of a sudden
like there there’s this league that is
got a few eyes on it but we we’d be
selling out like if if fans if that’s
what we had I think fans would support
it just like they did the East Coast
like you have something to go for not
like local that’s a little bit fresh
that’s that’s relevant a lot of these
guys are going to go on and then a lot
of these guys we watched on TV when
Memorial like that’s a very league and I
think you’d get 5 6,000 going mad I
think it would it would overnight change
the whole perspective so I think they’d
make money what is it why don’t we ever
ever have a University team there’s just
no interest in Varsity Sports really at
all we have men’s basketball we don’t
even have men’s volleyball anymore we
have women’s basketball we’ve got some
soccer but I I remember talking to the
folks at Acadia and their athletic
director there and he said Dave
ultimately what fans care about he said
are three sports hockey football and
basketball
and AE of course had all those teams and
um you know they they that’s a
university that cares about sports and
sees the the the value in it I remember
going down the indanapolis valley I was
there in the in the fall and I was there
for the dubie brothers which you would
like with Michael McDonald
and I drove down to the valley Michael
McDonald you mean Michael McDonald
opened up Michael McDonald was
performing with them right because he
mean he was the lead singer in the last
half of the Doobie Brothers uh you
knowes all that stuff right anyway I
forgot all of that forgot that Michael
McDonald was in the dubie brothers for
any time like I don’t know how but
anyway okay that’s another conversation
we’ll have in a little bit so I I drove
down to the Anapolis Valley and it was
uh it was H it was uh um what do you
call it uh come home or the The Varsity
sorry the alumni week or whatever uh in
the fall that they have and they have
football there and they got the hockey
games and and um and that’s that’s to me
what a university experience is is is
supposed to be about homecoming what
sorry homecoming whatever and uh and uh
it was awesome you know and and but mun
doesn’t mun is just a concrete and steel
University great academic institution in
the middle of Highway and that’s it you
know but listen
listen alumni alumni too like McCain’s I
think donated McCain family you know
French fries and and everything uh $20
million to aada University for their
Sports okay I thought they were dous I
didn’t even realize and but all those
universities tap into to to alumni and
and and uh and uh you know and getting
these funds to support the programs but
the K Ms just never really you know it’s
a shame I don’t know why our alumni have
not stepped up do we have an athletic
director like this is because I don’t
know it’s an afterthought you know and
I’m sure people at M would be upset to
hear this but they just simply don’t
care it’s it’s like and when I’m in Nova
Scotia everyone knows about the Dow
Tigers aadia axan St ofx X-Men and you
know Mount Allison even but like
sometimes they go yeah Ms just Seahawks
or the these the bics you know that’s
what it used to be um going back in the
days so it’s kind of you know they
they’re sort of familiar with it and
it’s a shame you know because I think
the students would rally behind it when
I was at M there was only one thing that
we were interested in other than
university studies uh was the Breezeway
was the pub because there was you didn’t
go to any sporting events or there was
no there was nothing like that to Rally
around and I think they would with
hockey I think all the residence
students and stuff would for sure has to
come from the University and it has to
come from Al alumni donors and I don’t
see it happening which is a
shame if you if and you know you if you
put it on there’s no team here say The
Growlers and you you you really start
pumping that in the paper I mean it’s
the sports section paper I’m sound like
maybe maybe maybe we’ll follow on the uh
we’ll get a talkie too and and and maybe
a typewriter out and we’ll write some
new articles and post them around town
no I mean in the paper like online
everything like live give give a little
bit more of a glimpse it’s just not out
there that much we have in this small
province which we report things like you
might go to a an Under 12 Atlantic
championship and see a place that’s
packed because you know even if you
don’t have a if there’s anything in
Mount Pearl that’s Atlantic Canadian
championship or or national I go watch
it even if I didn’t ever play the sport
we’re very loyal fans and you know we we
support all this amateur stuff and M is
right there with Memorial University
that is for those listening with 20,000
plus students in it and all great
facilities I was out there last night
working out with Penny Lane and her
soccer team yeah using the Fieldhouse
second to none and going in and there’s
there’s guys on the swim team with a
meet and there’s like four people I mean
even swimming you should go watch it’s
right there yeah like if we’re competing
I find it what a missed opportunity all
these years it’s not like we’re in bump
[ __ ] nowhere yeah like you know we’re
here this at some point someone will
come in it could be when we’re dead but
this is a market I think that’s not even
not even being attempted I tell you I
don’t not I don’t know people know this
story actually I know they don’t it’s I
don’t even know if it’s an interesting
story but when I finished up with the
ice caps I was looking for work and
there was a job actually at mun
Athletics for communications person it
was kind of a step down certainly from
from the American Hockey League and it
would have been a step down in salary a
significant one but I said you know what
I’m looking for something who could lead
to something maybe I’m I’m part of the
University experience whatnot but I went
there and it was a part-time job it was
uh like 20 hours a week and uh and I was
like I you know I can’t it’s the when I
factor in what the pay cut would have
been and and obviously working part-time
I was like no like I can’t do this job
remember halfway through the job
interview I said you know what guys I
can’t do it I can’t take a part-time job
here but that was their commitment that
even for for for Varsity Athletics it
was a part-time Communications job yeah
they don’t give a [ __ ] you know what’s
funny I don’t know if it was the last
team Dave but my dad did play for M when
he came back from Pro if you could
believe it it was 77 maybe 78 it was I
you know I don’t I’m not old enough to
but I’ve got a picture down there and I
asked him after this was probably 10
years ago but I was in my 30s like old
enough that I should have known that he
played for man I went what and he showed
me the picture I said you’ve got to be
kidding me and right next to him is a
funk F I call him Funk Bob fogner it’s
it’s Alec Fulmer’s um or George Fulmer’s
son yeah Bob I call him Funk yeah but
anyway and then they told me a bunch of
stories about and they’re like yeah yeah
it was uh we had a great time you know
in getting our degrees playing hockey
and I’m like gez I wish they had that on
the go now now listen Doug Grant St
Louis Blues Detroit Red Wings play with
M yes right yeah there you go so you
know what you’re talking
about do you think now Austin Matthews
didn’t get his 70th I felt some bad did
you watch the last couple games I did I
did see it’s funny a guy I know from out
Pearl John rich said two days ago
incoming 70 and like you those of us in
the hockey world know you don’t put up
not that that’s bullet and board
material that the Leafs are going to see
but you don’t say things you don’t jinx
things and I saw that tweet you know
that he was saying oh 70 goals is coming
and uh and I Jesus there’s the kiss of
death right there he tried everything I
hate to feel bad for a guy that just led
the National Hockey League for like the
fourth or fifth time that’s GNA that has
millions and million just like you know
there is a level of strip away the money
and the fame and everything and when
kucherov got his H 100th and you could
see him and look Matthews over the years
i’ I’ve developed a bit of a liking for
like he takes it like a man he really
does I mean he’s not a great fighter
well not a fighter but he he does block
shots he goes in he uses his body he’s
not as fluff as a lot of people think
and you could just tell I think it takes
a lot of mental kahunas man to just sit
there and and take all that and he and
he came off early a couple times couple
times he did I mean he took a lot of
shots that’s what he does he but he
passed it a few times around the net and
you could just see that this if it’s me
and I’m sitting there and 20,000 people
and millions all over the world are
waiting and I’m probably and the game’s
winding down he looks up and there’s
three minutes left and they pull their
goalie in I just there’s a level of me
that said you know pity isn’t the right
word but I really respect this guy you
know this athlete and I hope I hope they
win a round or two just I hate it you
know because he seems to really care and
he’s a Toronto Maple he’s signed back
there twice of course they haven’t been
great in the playoffs but anyway I just
wanted to say that my question to you
yeah is that why do you think we’ll see
sooner
given the Rarity of both someone get 100
assists or someone get 70 goals yeah
well you know the 70 goals is is uh like
I said we he thought we were he was
gonna get it he had a couple of games
left um you know with the 100 assists I
guess we saw coov right um my thing he
was you could see how disappointed he
was and and McDavid you know and McDavid
right I sort of almost take him for
granted these days but yeah I know me
too you know he was so he was devastated
at the end of the game you could see and
and Keith was trying to console him and
his parents had been following him
around the past few games and and they
were obviously disappointed that’s
always bad Matthews thing and I know
look I’m not a leaves fan and I like to
tease them online and stuff because
they’re sensitive um but um you know I’m
he’s he’s a brilliant hockey player I
he’s super skilled player arguably the
greatest Leaf maybe of of all time you
know certainly doesn’t have the playoff
uh success but um
um what was I I lost my my train of
thought there um yes the the Keef
situation sorry that to me was strange
you know we’re dealing with this
distraction and and we just want to get
this over with and it seemed really
annoyed about it all he seemed annoyed
all you’ve got to say is like look you
know every we’re getting a lot of
attention on this and I understand why
the media Market you know we hope for
his sake you know he gets his 70 we’d
all like to have it over with I’m sure
he would as well but you know we all
hope you know he gets the 70 goals and
just leave it at that but to to kind of
seem annoyed by it all and call it a
distraction basically was just saying
like this is a pain in the ass and I
wish it was over um yeah was like that’s
just struck me as odd I don’t I don’t
that was that’s what I you know what
that adds to my frustration because I
look at the guy and what do you it
almost like in a weird bizarre twist
that I never would have seen coming it
was almost like a drag at the for week
he shouldn’t play he shouldn’t what do
you mean he shouldn’t play he’s going
for 70 goals like there’s one team wins
the Stanley Cup 31 go home without it
there’s other things a fan base wants to
see he wants to see give the guy some
flowers and and you know I I there’s
something about me that was really up
and and reporters a lot of them that I
don’t think really sat back and and and
realize that it transcends the game of
hockey and the leaps haven’t had much to
cheer about since’ 67 and here’s a guy
that now that being
said I’m looking I I knew that he missed
a bunch of games like when he had 60 a
couple years ago he missed 10 games yeah
right so there’s a chance he does it
again there there really is um yeah I me
I looked I was looking at some stats
that Mike bossy had 69 I think in 78 79
I think he’s second season or something
um or certainly early in his career and
he never did again so that’s why the
thing you want to you want to get it
when you can but your point I mean he he
could score 72 next year he’s certainly
capable of it but you know he’s a great
you know you want to seal you want to
you want to seal that away when you can
and this was his opportunity and and I
feel bad for him and uh you know whether
you like the Leafs or M Matthews or not
I mean if you’re rooting against him to
get 70 you’re a pretty hateful person
you know I mean like have his moment and
and uh and it’s just great for hockey
and it and it really would have been
cool to see him get 70 absolutely it’s a
special Plateau you know it’s like
getting 49 goals in a season you know
you want 50 right um hey I was telling a
story going in um going into my last
period of my draft year which ended up
if you look back for a lot of reasons
probably my my best memories my best
personal hockey year um
so we were going in the last game that
meant nothing against Portland
Winterhawks and they were in like last
place literally meant nothing to either
team and
um I was I had 48 goals going into the
final game and Damon
lanca was I think two points up maybe he
was very close for the scoring
lead and uh and Brian bushe was our
goalie and he played and I remember Bob
LS asking all of us and I I just didn’t
want to miss a game anyway but in back
my mind I’m going are you Ser like
obviously I want to play I want to get
50 goals I can’t say it out loud but of
course I want to play right and I would
have wanted to play anyway I don’t like
missing games like I don’t like that
okay I might have an OE like you know
unless I’m actually hurt um and LS was
going for the scoring and he didn’t want
to say anything either but he’s like of
course play play play and Brian bu just
wanted to play he wasn’t chasing
anything he’s just like I I don’t really
want to sit out I want to play it’s
Tuesday we start against Spokane on on
Friday and I want to be limber so anyway
we played and then this the the last
last period I still had 48 goals going
in the last period and Bob LS looked
down and remember him saying to the boys
he’s like I’m I’m in the room before he
goes I’m I’m gonna probably play Terry
and there was a guy Ray Schulz play
ended up playing for the Islanders a bit
Sugar Ray Schultz I call him he could
fight but he was a decent he was a
defenseman and Junior didn’t have quite
those feet so he played forward in the
NHL beat a few guys up whatever but a
great guy he had no goals going in so he
played but Ray scored his first of the
year Place went nuts I get my 49th with
about 9 minutes left short-handed LX
gives it over to me look for me look for
me it was like mner and and Matthews he
could have shot he could have slipped it
into the net gave it to me and then with
about not about 28 with with 28 seconds
left I scored my last goal and I
remember the fans like really really and
they knew the fans came to the game
knowing that it didn’t mean anything but
it was like when I played for The
Growlers I tried to tell people like it
wasn’t just my moment here like all
these people are here and they want it
and again they’re paid they’re paid for
a ticket tonight to see me possibly get
50 and to see Damon win the scoring and
outside of that just see to see their
team play and there’s a level of um
what’s the word um you know when you’re
symbiosis like you it’s all about your
team and the fans and I find those
moments um are as much to be shared with
the fan base as the player that’s just
the way I look at you know and it’s it’s
all about history too Terry and and and
and and like whether it’s the current
history or or or going forward that year
you the scouts were able to say here’s a
guy who scored 50 goals and had over 200
P minutes yeah 49 goals I don’t know if
they would have said he was a 50 goal I
don’t know you’re exactly right you can
fit it into this sentence now you can
take my name and put it in the sentence
of well he did have 50 now you can put
it in that sentence a 50 goal
scorer say well he almost had 50 you
know as risk he almost did right exactly
and that’s what the 70 would do with
with with him it’s all about you know
whether it’s the media or social media
you know I I I think M Marner had 99
points the other year he did I remember
s apps 7576 Penguins uh 99 points I
still remember that he never got 100
before or after you know so that 70 is
is
magical if Bernie Nichols had 69 goals
we’d be like yeah 69 goals he was a 60
goal scorer like Dennis Maro was a 60
goal then you’re on another level of 60
goals or 60 plus at 70 Bernie Nichols
well Bernie Nichols had a 70 goal season
he was part of that goal what Matthews
would be and still could be but it would
have been imagine if Paul coffee got a
couple of go he had 48 I think it wasn’t
48 it was
49 like you would talk about the 50 the
defenseman had 50 goals right meanwhile
it just like to and probably like four
four assists were like shots that would
have gone in anyway they flected off
somewh it’s like the Hall of Fame Terry
3,000 hits you know 300 wins as a
picture that’s why those numbers are
important because people like us talk
about it and the fans talk about it and
and 69 is not 70 you almost in a way you
almost you feel better if you had 68 you
know because I know I would I think if I
was a player I would yeah i’ go okay you
know I needed two anyway but you know to
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Reserved speaking of baseball and wins
and losses
SO pitching is never ever going to be
the same do you think I don’t know what
the requirements are getting into the
Hall of Fame I know that as a pitcher sa
young usually you were in the
conversation if you had 20 wins which is
never going to be the case I mean
someone might get it but not as many
people it’s not a requirement for the sa
young anymore because they’s just less
Innings pitched
um it is a requirement wins I’m just
saying they’re probably not going to be
as many no hitters there’s definitely
won’t be many complete games there’s not
going to be as many but athletes do
exist like Nolan Ryan and and many many
more that kind of
thrive on on playing a lot and even
though it might be the third or fourth
time through the lineup their
mental
intuitiveness will you know now okay now
now I got to outsmart you now I’m going
to throw two curve balls when you think
I’m going to throw F and and you’re
almost not allowing that anymore so do
do we need to come up with a whole new
system of requirements for Awards in
baseball do or do you think it’s going
to start slipping back the other way um
the extreme example last thing I’ll say
I I think it was two or three years ago
Blake Snell is it got taken out he was
pitching a no hitter in the playoffs and
he got taken out in the sixth inning and
they got lit up and you’re going well
but the analytics might say it but you
know we were going with a hunch here and
the hunch for this sa Young Award winner
that had a no hitter for me would have
been leave him in now are we going to
think do you think we’re ever going to
start bouncing back that way well you
know it’s
it’s I hate to be this typical what they
call Boomer right that with analytics
and stuff and I I think it’s a good tool
to have you know in your back pocket if
as a tiebreaker or whatever if you
you’re you’re making decisions but I
think you have to go with the feel uh
for the game and and if a guy’s got a no
hitter going especially how rare that is
right now or a complete game I
mean I think are still people are still
having arm injuries it’s not like we’ve
solved that completely with this new
approach of babying them them it’s still
happening you know I I think you you you
you you you do you know you let the
pitcher if he’s like I said got an no
hitter or a special game going let him
go um and um I I just think you
know making decisions just because like
again I hate to sound like this guy but
because there’s a nerd up in the Press
Box with a you know computer telling you
to to to uh to change your pictures uh I
I just think that’s ridiculous and and I
I can’t imagine like basically like now
you’re asking a manager after the game
why did you make that decision and I
think it was someone recently I’m
remember hearing it Bas I’m paraphrasing
now and he would basically said it
really wasn’t my decision I was told by
someone else yeah I think that was
Schneider last year to change to change
can’t remember why I don’t think I want
to be a a baseball manager anymore can
you imagine guys like you know Billy
Martin and Earl Weaver and I’m really
sounding old right now uh you know being
a manager today I just don’t think they
they well they they wouldn’t do it they
couldn’t do it you know they just
wouldn’t do
it you’re you’re right about the
criteria about Major League Baseball
Hall of Fame I don’t know what it would
be right now there’s so many new
statistics uh to determine you know a
player’s value right now that it’s it’s
almost kind of above you know my PID
grade but uh yeah you certainly those
days Well here here’s the thing I I
often look at these statistics and look
I’m not analytics really is information
so I not really against analytics it’s
always been there to some degree there’s
just more information and to me it’s how
you read it right so at the beginning of
the Season let’s just say this is one
example but I can take it and and and
insert it into most situations in most
of the major sports right now but
beginning of the year the Oilers
finished I think or they started the
Oilers I think were
uh they were two and two and 10 maybe to
start the year that was horrible yeah
you a lot of polls came out and said any
other team that finished two and 10
their odds now to get their odds to get
into the
playoffs just into the playoffs are like
2% that’s right I know it seemed
impossible it seemed impossible but okay
so so so that is an analytic of course
that’s information every other team that
finished started like this there’s only
one ever that got in so I think it was
like less than 1% to be honest with you
yeah because analytics would tell you at
that point Terry you know they did fire
the coach but like trade all the players
you know maybe we got to re would have
said that you’re exactly right now if
you looked within those 12 games they
were the only team to have most games
outshot their opponent to like the the
numbers within those 12 games showed you
that at some point they’re going to
explode whether they change the coach or
not this is a lot of bad luck and these
guys aren’t going to miss that much now
the next 12 games I think they went on a
bit of a heater but the analytics within
those all you know shots on goal chances
generated were pretty much the same so
you could read that one way or the other
right like you could be on the side of
well they’re going to bust out of this
so of the teams that haven’t made it
this is by far the best team or
analytics don’t tell you Terry is this
team is good enough to win 12 straight
games yeah oh yes that that’s the thing
analytics don’t say that but on paper if
you told me the Oilers with all the the
the the the skill they have just W 10
games in a row I’d be like okay I can
buy that they’ve got a good enough team
to do it then analytics doesn’t tell you
that it just tells you at this point the
season they’re this far behind so this
season’s a right off so maybe you make
moves based on that uh and and that’s
like I said that’s to me some of the
frustration but with baseball it’s like
they’ve just over I’ll use like a yogi
Bara ISM they’ve overthunk things right
now in in my mind you know and and it’s
just it was a beautiful game you know
the dimensions everything’s just so
perfect the way the the game was created
and the rules and and the distance from
the mound and all that other stuff you
know all the nuances of baseball you
know it was perfect I don’t know why
they had to screw around with it you
know I know I know the answer is yes but
have you seen the Ken Burns uh nine
innings baseball documentary yes yes
yeah amazing yeah it was fantastic well
well you know what one thing that I love
about
baseball is that yeah he goes over those
Dimensions over the years and it’s like
wow like this game has stayed pretty
much very true to form not the same but
true to form yeah since since it started
you know it’s still the same distance
between first and second and and and the
pitchers Mount and Home Plate and all
the things that have happened but what I
love is
that you can build a stadium and just
put whatever the hell you want you can
put in a green m is it in Texas it it
starts to go uphill in the Outfield you
can put the dimensions whatever the hell
you want here’s what we’re gonna do ah
it’s going to be 301 down the line nah
320 ah let’s settle on 311 screw it
let’s go for a beer like and everything
else is so perfect and that’s and that’s
what you talk about that Terry like I
was I was saying to people the other day
there’s only one hockey rink I’m
interested in going to now and that’s
Madison Square Garden it’s because of
the history everything else to me is the
same in h all the buildings are there’s
no there’s no character anymore the old
Boston Garden map Leaf Gardens in
Montreal form the only one that’s left
is is the m is Madison Square Garden
which I’ve never seen a hockey game
there that’s the only hockey rink I’m
interested in baseball I want to see
them all I’ve been to Wrigley I’ve been
to Pittsburgh which people say is the
best uh in in in baseball and I agree
you know I’ve been to uh to Fenway I’ve
been to Yankee Stadium Mets so i’ in the
past few years um you know I’ve started
to go more and more baseball games
because of of like you said um the
uniqueness of all the buildings uh
despite you know the rules still like
you said not changing there’s some
nuances with the with the with the with
the buildings and whatnot and and that’s
to me it speaks to the character
baseball and that what I love about it
like I have no interest like I said if I
can get to the Rangers in Madison Square
Garden I can never go to another hockey
game live and I could live with it you
know because I don’t need to see the
building but in baseball there’s so many
buildings I still want to get to it you
know I still want to go to Camden Yards
and San Francisco and and Dodger Stadium
and and uh that’s the stuff that I love
about
baseball yeah yeah uh well said me too
um
if let’s
say basketball which is the most
basketball I again I’m trying to in my
head because I haven’t done my research
but I think more people take games off
for load Management in in basketball
would I be correct there yeah Ian I
suppose
INB yeah so like an 80 Game season and
he plays 60 and it’s not injuries it’s
yeah and it allows for it from some of
the superstars that might be thinking
say Awards because the leading score
isn’t an accumulation it’s an average so
you can play 60 games and win the
leading score yeah and someone play 80
games and finish point one of a point
behind you and have played a lot more
games but you get it because it’s
average so it kind of allows for that um
but if all these Players let’s just say
basketball hopefully it doesn’t trickle
into the other sports I mean I I
understand that if it’s the dead last
game of the year like say you know if
Matthews already had 70 totally get him
sitting out I get that
but in basketball it happens in right as
soon as the season starts three games in
four nights well the stars are taking
one of those games off right A lot of
them starting with Kawhi Leonard and the
worst thing is when he when he made that
popular for the Raptors they won and it
became a
thing should should say the NBA just
look at it and go okay if all of our
star players have to sit out why don’t
we just shorten the league why don’t we
just shorten the season I was just going
to say Terry that’s my thing about all
this baseball 162 and just special
because that goes back to the days of
bab Bru and you know as a fan that going
in like you you’re very aware of the
charm you have afternoon games you can
play double headers baseball’s a little
different I think the hockey Seasons
should be around 70 I think basketball
should be around 70 I someone said to me
the other day that the Stanley Cup
should be out by May 24th weekend I have
no problem with with any of that I I
tend to agree with it it’s not going to
happen because of greed but that’s
that’s what what the leagues have
created they want these 82 game
schedules they want their stars to play
all all the time the stars are basically
pushing back and saying you may have an
82 game schedule but I’m not playing it
and it wouldn’t be surprised if it
trickled in into hockey at some point um
and that’d be a shame but I think that
that speaks to the volume speaks volumes
to the to the fact that the seasons are
too long they should be about 70 games
and that’s the thing I love my true
sport that I actually watch the most
live is football because the games are
so meaningful you know you lose two or
three games you’re done you know uh
whereas hockey you can lose two three
games in two weeks and you’re and you’re
fine and I just think the games would be
more meaningful if the schedule was
shorter but it’s never going to happen
because of money if anything they’ll
they’ll have these preseason tournaments
like NBA has and they’ll find a way to
to stretch it out before they shorten it
but I wish they would but they they
won’t yeah okay you’re you’re with me I
don’t think it’ll happen either but I
mean to me it’s just logical math just
just you want to talk analytics there’s
your first one owners right smacking
your right in the face yeah anyway okay
do you have time I got to take off soon
but I usually do rapid fire randoms uh
section and we’re going to do a real
short version of that maybe five minutes
you all right with that y let’s do it
okay here we go Dave Salter rapid fire
randoms favorite Jersey of all time in
any sport actually give me your favorite
hockey jersey and then your favorite
non- hockey jersey so tough um well the
Minnesota funing saints that your dad
played with that logo is amazing I love
The Stingers wh the wh had so many great
ones
um I love my my the old purple and gold
Kings uh northstars I love there’s so
there’s so many but the WJ had so many
great ones yeah the wh were awesome and
what about outside of hockey outside of
hockey I like a lot of the cartoon logos
I like the old Milwaukee Bucks logo um
um Yankees you know the classic Yankees
logo with the with the top hat and the
bat you know the other a they use um try
to think uh
yeah hockey has to in my opinion hockey
has some of the best logos of all of all
sports you know I think so I think my
favorite I I I’ve never really swayed
from Chicago I love that well you know
what I love the Milwaukee Brewers with
the the bat and the glove shaping
MB that’s that’s brilliant to the
Brewers the Brewers football is kind of
not in the running it’s just numbers
really for the most part the football
yeah I I do like the old I do like the
old New England Patriots the Patriot Pat
know the cartoon uh you know guy and I
love the old Buccaneers uh Buccaneer
Bruce bucko Bruce the old orange colors
so I like the Pats and the Bucks I would
say in football but I’m like old school
right okay so you’re going on a trip to
Ms you’re you’re you’re going it’s going
to be three months each way we’ve come
up with some sort of spaceship that can
do that but you need
um you’ve got so all that way but you
can only take three albums with you so
not necessarily your favorite because
there’s I might lay off the Beatles
Because I don’t want to get sick of them
so like an album maybe that you haven’t
heard in a while like three of those
that you would that would entertain you
for me maybe I’d pick a double album
because a length you know you’re three
months each way but that’s all you have
is three albums worth of songs which
ones do you pick it could be a straight
album could be your greatest hits
whatever I have to have Steely Dan in
there because that’s my all-time
favorite group and I will never ever
ever get sick of
um senior’s G to love that you said that
and there’s a tough one because you
could take Ste Steely Grand’s greatest
and still not have not even have scratch
the surface on their like that that’s an
album caught band [ __ ] if I’ve ever
heard absolutely so I would take Asia by
Steely Dan for sure uh get some stones
in there if I need to rock out maybe Hot
Rocks the greatest hits from the 70s uh
and maybe something melow maybe some
Joanie Mitchell courton spark how about
that just heard just listen to that the
other day I always at the end of each
night uh that Penny Lane’s
here we mix it up but I’m like we had to
watch something educational a lot of
times that’ll be a video or I I consider
that I’m like you know you like Juice
Newton well here’s the video Queen of
Hearts oh that looks like the 80s yes it
is you know you’re still learning
history when you do that stuff but
anyway we watched uh Joanie Mitchell
live just with a guitar I can’t remember
where but it was 1971 it was quite the
concertant amazing what YouTube can do
right I say to my buddies I’m like why
wouldn’t you pay this subscription like
it’s funny the influence our music has
on our kids Terry because you know um I
was was watching I think it was Better
Call Saul or some TV show and the guy
was in the supermarket and there was a
Steely Dan song playing and and my son
or I think it was Steely Dan or or maybe
it was some Yacht Rock song that I also
love it might have been uh um
Christopher Cross somewh and and my son
comment and I was like how do you know
that and he’s like Dad I’m in the car
with you all the time and uh so the
songs are subliminally to me anyway
infiltrating his brain and and I think
previously my daughter as well but
definitely my son is influenced it’s not
like he’s sitting down and listening to
music with me where I have music on all
the time he’s kind of a prisoner and
it’s funny yeah he knows all that stuff
yeah for sure um how many fish Burgers
have you ever eaten you know what the
filet of fish a few years ago I was that
it’s so funny you say that I was at
McDonald’s and I said you know I’ve
never had a f of fish in my lifetime I
don’t know why it hit me and I said one
of these days it has to be off the menu
who who has bought one how is it still
there unbelievable and and I find one
day I don’t know it was a random day I
said I’m getting a fillet of fish and I
had one and it was very underwhelming
and I’m shocked that it’s still on the
menu I don’t know why how it is I’d
never had one um Jason Hedges and I were
playing hockey for the mount Pro blades
in 2010 and I’d never had
one I just I and I went and well and the
thing is we’re in New Finland so I like
the idea of the fish burger so I said I
might as well but yeah you’re right I’m
like it’s better at chess’s or or
wherever I don’t know why I’m I know
it’s very unfilling yeah I’m in New
Finland why would I order a fish burger
from McDonald’s but the whole idea of
that so and I would go and get like
double fish Burgers
so I I I wondered and and the reason our
our reasoning was it exactly yours it
was uh after a game and we were like who
who’s ever ordered one how has pizza
come and gone the spicy chicken and all
these things those sandwiches that they
had a few years ago and these things
come and go yet the flo fish stays on
the menu I don’t know if it’s part of
some sort of McDonald’s Constitution
that they have to have it in there like
when whoever you know formed the the
company that no matter what happens
would it Chang and you have to uh buy
Constitution keep filet official because
I can’t imagine anyone’s actually buying
it but I just bought it one day thinking
randomly like this is going to be gone
soon and and I’ll never be able to say I
had one so I did it and yeah brutal um
okay same thing now um you’ve got to
pick you’re on the same trip and you got
to pick three
movies wow you know what I watched
recently I hadn’t seen it in a while was
the Sha Shank Redemption that was uh
brilliant that’s next on Penny Lane’s
list I’m showing her movies and I I tend
to stay away I mean a bunch of guys in a
prison for a 14-year-old girl but some
some of those uh not that I’m just
saying for subject matter I could
because it’s one of the best movies of
all time yeah uh think most people one
of it’s so subjective but it’s certainly
not a bad movie I think a lot of people
would say it’s great so I think now
she’s old enough to get it I think the
message transcends like the boredom that
could could result from if you were a
kid watching that movie movies I went
through a period in the 80s when I
didn’t have a girlfriend in high school
and and me and my buddy you know would
go to the video stores and rent
everything so I saw you know on the
waterfront uh uh you know uh you know
street car name desire yeah those two
great ones you know all the all the
Classics um you know what’s the one uh
the the the one that is regarded as the
greatest of all time Rose Bud um Citizen
Kane I just watched that again the other
day I’ve seen all of the all of the
classics but but I I will say in recent
memory just uh OB say OB say sha shank
but but the movie that I’ve seen the
most and it’s not even close is Planes
Trains and
Automobiles God unbelievable so I can’t
believe you’re saying these Penny Lane
and I watched that on the way back from
orl just a couple months ago like and
Automobiles getting back and she goes
what I’ve heard that saying I go well
you’ve heard the saying of course
because you’ve seen the movie right like
a chatty Kathy doll except I’m pulling
the
string that that movie I I still I think
it’s brilliant it’s it’s touching it’s
funny John Candy that that to me I know
like I said much more touching than you
think at the end I had a little bit of
uh te tee exactly Goosebumps I forgot
that part was going to hit me mar Marie
is gone um it’s not citizen King but I I
have to tell you it’s it’s the movie
I’ve watched the most I watched Citizen
Kane again I saw it years ago underwhelm
wouldn’t be the the word but I didn’t
have an
appreciation I was like oh it’s pretty
good you know it was a long time ago but
now I don’t want to seem like film world
industry pretentious yeah but when you
see how early that was and how the shots
added up I think it was It was kind of
the the impactfulness of that movie it
was just so different than anything that
had come before the way they use the
cameras and shadowing and everything and
lighting now I get it I’m like oh that
was 1940 or or like they in thereabouts
41 I think yeah okay now I get it right
and then other
movies you might go yeah see a movie in
1948 and go well that’s much better
because it’s almost a decade yeah but it
wouldn’t happened if it wasn’t for this
one right like now I see okay go ahead
you know so many other I’m just thinking
out now now Midnight Express uh Deer
Hunter a lot of those movies like in the
70s uh there’s just so many there’s so
many it’s so I think I could pick music
much more than movies movies is it’s
because it all depends what mood you’re
in into right you’re right you know I
also love Anchor Man because it’s silly
and funny and I’ve done TV and and I
love old school because we’ve all wanted
to go back and and go to a fraternity
and relive our our our youth again uh so
you know it it’s it’s it’s tough that’s
the tough that’s the tough one for me as
movies to be honest with you but but I
will say the number one one that I’ve
watched hundreds of times probably as
plain Trains and Automobiles that’s uh
that’s a great answer it is it’s a lot
harder for me too I never thought about
it that way but there’s probably a
reason yeah usually even with music when
I get into an artist I Can Go lyrics
like like Bob Dylan or there’s a guy
John Gorka I love and if it wasn’t for
his M I got into the words first but
most most of the time it’s it’s a beat
or or or a hook or something like that
that grabs me and I think that part is
like Ma mathema in my head like it’s
tough for me not to like I don’t know
something something obvious I don’t know
that I heard for the first time taking
care of business you know I don’t know
there’s a guitar there’s a beat I’m five
years old I like this I I don’t see ever
not liking it because it adds but I
might watch I don’t know a movie like
Austin Powers and over time it might CH
it might go in and out of like how much
I really like this movie and you know
there’s certain things nuances and where
I am in life might matter but but with
with songs it’s often like okay I really
like that like it’s hard for me not to
like I don’t know Twist and Shout I go
back to those easy ones because when
you’re a kid that’s the first thing that
grabs you you don’t give a [ __ ] what Bob
wouldn’t grab you when you were probably
seven years old there’s a great example
but Dad played it so much yeah that I’m
going okay now I I kind of get it Asia
was a great example Aja for those doing
the looking it up um that’s a great
example right if if I heard that if that
was just there in the corner and I knew
nothing about them and I was only to
hear it once it’s over after a while
okay um if you could pick one superpower
what would it
be everyone wants to say flying or
something right um most people say
flying
or or
invisibility I think the ability maybe
to read people’s minds that’s a that’s a
fantastic I think I want that better
than
flying I think you could do more with
that for sure yeah I can get on a plane
anytime you could and you could still
have if you were invisible it would
spill over into criminality somehow like
you know there’s a lot of creepiness
there you know what are you going to be
invisible for but if you would read
people’s minds it you could use it for
that but you know just you I could use
anything I I I make moral decisions
right now I I have access to do whatever
I can go over and murder my neighbor
Lucy if I want to I won’t so I think if
you could read brains if it was me I’d
just make sure that I had a nice little
setup for my family and I I wouldn’t
need to know the secrets to the world I
guess it would be how you use that power
but you know it wouldn’t be it’d be
pretty boring super hero just to be able
to read minds I’d need some sort of like
punching power or something speed or
something if you could read minds though
you would be able to have that because
you could read the minds of the best
scientists in the world and you could go
figure it all out on your own I think it
would take a long time it would be like
being
a a reporter we’d have to flush out the
character because I think as a kid like
mind reader guy you know probably
wouldn’t be that exciting to the average
kid it wouldn’t no it certainly wouldn’t
you you also if you could read
minds you I guess you could technically
do anything you wanted to do I I could
be a pilot because I just take a pilot
with me whenever I’m doing wrong I’m G
to read the Pilot’s mind Terry know
first thing leave her soon we’re good
yeah if you were on death row what would
the meal
be hm the first thing that came to mind
Terry is I love comfort food like mashed
potatoes and and meatloaf you know what
I mean or meatloaf and mashed potatoes I
guess something like that probably
because you’re gonna die so You’
probably want something comforting uh
yeah I guess you could say steak and you
know whatever but uh yeah I would say
some sort of comfort food item because
you know I’m gonna die I I’ve eaten so
strictly the last few years that I don’t
even like remember like yeah fries and
gravy or poutine or I mean I do remember
but I just don’t eat that enough
now to uh not I’m Immaculate here I I
eat like you know I guess if I’m going
to spoil I’ll have pastas but a lot of
the real greasy stuff is just kind of
been
eliminated toolbox yeah you know and I
just try I snack at night but I I can’t
have the Doritos because if I do I’ll
eat them so it’s like cashews and things
like that not like overly healthy but it
ain’t some of the things I want I would
definitely go right in as fatty as I
could possible I mean you’re going to
die the next day right right okay last
question I have for you we’re at a
minute we’re at an hour exactly I
appreciate your time yeah
absolutely hypothetically in this world
all these
players are in their Prime you’ve got a
my team doesn’t matter but you and I got
are going against each other you have to
pick five players and a goalie and I
don’t know we’re gonna have a simulation
or whatever we’re gonna have that can
play together and try to beat my team
now you can’t have Lemieux grety or or
how grety
or top four players you can’t pick and
no Montreal
Canadians okay but you can pick anybody
else three forwards two d and a goalie
you know what if this is for like a the
Stanley Cup or something obviously right
umon dollars on the table in between
jumps out at me you know uh when you is
uh seems kind of random but it’s the
first one that came to my head cuz I’m
thinking I’m gonna want to win the cup
is Billy Smith uh inette I know that’s
kind of you know you don’t think it’s
maybe cup straight you know or or or W
or broor or whatever but I’d go there uh
no or on defense um I would go Lidstrom
and uh Denny poin I just love his that
he he played both ways and he could hurt
you as incredible I was talking about
him two weeks ago how he’s under
underappreciated in the history of
hockey I don’t know how this guy went
like people go right to like Like Larry
Robinson and Doug Harvey I’m like whoa
yeah whoa 80s B to go Paul coffee I’m
like my God how has Dennis pord
forgotten about 100 points defenseman
first overall lived up to his rep four
cup straight come on built a franchise
around team right um and so up front
I’ve got uh I’ve got Lemieux I’m allowed
to have him
right and what’s that no you’re not
allowed
lemie have Lemieux or or how is that the
ones or Gretzky the top four the Mount
Rushmore play are Undisputed I think
I’ll
go I’ll go
Messier um and so now I’ve got a you can
have you you don’t have to have Wingers
you can have three Center if you want
okay
um this is tough when you got those
other guys off the
list Miss
just
um uh
just give me a second here um all right
I can throw out some possibilities some
people might
say Sid the Kid Conor mcdavid’s on the
board Stevie eisman’s on the board yeah
I’m gonna go I’m gonna go Eiserman
Messier and
uh you know it’s funny you’re gonna
think I’m an Islanders fan and it’s not
because I grew up in that era they
didn’t win four cups that people forget
about I’ll go I’ll go if I’m on a cup
I’m gonna go Messier Aran and uh Brian
TR
trach what a great you know what I like
those answers because trache is one of
the most underrated players in the
history of the NHL I’m absolutely
convinced as is poin as are the [ __ ]
New York Islanders from 79 to 83 was so
tough he was not a big man either but
tough as Nails then went over to
Pittsburgh and won a couple with them I
remember in 84 they were going for their
fifth cup and they played the Canadians
in in the in the semifinals and uh he
hit bob who was no slouch at a big
strong man and almost killed him this is
trach and he’s still arguably that we
know at the time it was him and Gretzky
wanted to so here’s like something
Gretzky wouldn’t do you know what I mean
trach was out there you know physically
laying bodies out and contributing to
the scoreboard uh greatly and he was
just probably the greatest quite
possibly the greatest two-way player of
My Life Time Brian trache so it’s funny
their names I I wouldn’t have come up
with before this conversation
necessarily but um but they’re the ones
that that leaked out to me so if I have
to go to war with Messier trach and and
Eisman up front and poin and uh and
Lidstrom on defense and Billy Smith and
net I’ll take my chances I absolutely
love your list it’s Unique and it’s
legit and you could make an argument
against any team I could possibly put
together thank you very much Dave Salter
do you have anything to add do you have
anything to plug and by the way we’ll
get you back a few times I like having
some uh it’s often stories with old
buddies not only are you an old buddy
though but I need once in a while to ask
some relevant um current questions and
I’m glad you can be there for that
so so much fun Terry of course you know
I think about doing this today I
remember you know writing that story
when you were drafted in that Bantam
draft it was I still have that by the
way of the telegram sports section you
know 14 years old and so we go back a
long time and and uh and I love you and
I love the fact that you’re not just a
hockey guy you’re a music guy your pop
culture guy and I think that’s why we
get along so well it’s because the
hockey is one thing that’s a given it’s
all the other stuff that you bring to
the table that I enjoy so much and that
you’re yourself and and you know you’ve
had you’ve taken your lumps along the
way and and now look at you you know you
know TV star and and the hockey world
star and and you know everyone loves you
and and you did it your own way and and
like I said you took some Stones along
the way although you’re a Beatles fan
and uh thank you that’s plain one for
you and uh but you know I just I’m just
so happy for all your success and it’s
always fun to chat we don’t do it enough
no we don’t I app appreciate it because
you really have seen a lot of people now
that go oh so you just went from hockey
and you you got into acting I’m like man
you guys don’t know there was so many
ups and downs and you more than anybody
because hey we’re buddies for a long
time and when I mentioned us on air we
still knew each other way before that I
really do still have that article at my
parents house mom keeps everything as do
I for the most part but I have that and
we’ve had we’ve shared similar you’re
probably not in the public eyes much but
definitely have pursued different career
opportunities you’re never really
settled into one thing you’re always
always thinking about other
possibilities how can I further myself
maybe I’ll take this job you just
mentioned you thought about the mun job
I’ve done that I’ve gone okay I’m going
to make less doing this but there’s I’m
probably going to further myself a
little bit more in this category or else
I wouldn’t have this podcast and I
wouldn’t be an actor as you know
yourself right now you got two great
children you figured out yourself you
you you you’re very comfortable in what
you’re doing and now you’ve worked in
not only hockey but um you you’ve
reported you you’ve you’ve worked in all
kinds of areas you worked for the
government and you know you don’t seem
to not going to say be happy but you’re
you’re you’re always a happy positive
guy that’s got Insight but you’re you’re
you’re very well-rounded and you’re
never complacent you know you’re always
I me people like me and you are always
chasing after something you know and
we’re not one to kind of just settle
into something comfortable and sometimes
that that makes that the path is a
little rougher for for people like me
and you maybe that want that that always
aspire to something different or maybe
get bored after a few years want to do
something else but I think we’re the
people if I sound egotistical here a
little bit certainly you but we’re the
people that maybe have more interesting
stories than the person that does the
you know they’re the accountant and then
they die you know they maybe they’ve got
a more comfortable life maybe they’ve
got more money than us but I think at
the end of the day you know it’s all
about experiences you meet I think we’ve
got the more interesting stories I tell
myself that
anyway that’s an incredible way to put
it and a great way to end it thank you
very much Dave Salter folks if you’re in
St John’s New Finland you want to go to
George Street you want to beer you just
want to relax you want to see some live
music you just want to hang out in one
of Canada’s coolest streets I would
start with Trinity Pub I’d make my way
down and I would go to Rob Roy confusion
the martini bar for sure I’d go to green
sleeves and of course turkey Joe’s or
TJ’s pub now and the Bull and Barrel if
I wanted to go for a bite to eat I would
start with loose tie I’d check out
Merchant Tavern and also blue on water
also go to the East End Peter Wedgewood
Wedgewood Cafe for a nice lunch they
also do catering if I wanted to improve
my life
and have strength and balance for the
body and mind I would go to rope Walk
Lane I’d go to Ryan power expr hockey
player and unbelievable trainer uh
strength and balance for the body and
mind power conditioning on rope walk
lane two locations for Mr Lube run by my
buddy Chris Sparks one of the best
athletes ever from this province one’s
on torbet road one’s on cam Mount Road
live laugh Lube piple pain relief the
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take what’s yours folks I’ll be back
just few days with more tals with TR
catch you guys on the rebound
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