THE ORBIT SWING “HAVES AND HAVE NOTS” of #GOLF w @MartinAyersGolf

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I’m not saying that what I’m about to
say is what I want the average player to
go out and try right now is if they have
to do it right now this is this is what
all the top players are
doing whether they know it or not it’s
irrelevant this is how a goal swing
works when it’s working well and that is
that the player is going to keep the
energy of the swinging
club trapped to one side of them for a a
efficient amount of time but John Rah
it’s very small time he doesn’t need
long he goes bang and he’s ready to hit
it right I’m a bit like John Ram but
some guys and girls Rook Henderson Colin
morow they have to keep it there for a
longer time and you could think of that
as it’s
unfolding okay from
folded it’s
unfolding on one side of
them and then the two
ends uh move around each other or around
the central part of the shaft and they
changed the direction and changed the
side from one side of the player to the
other and everyone sees this okay it
doesn’t have to lay down too much it’s
just it’s still on the other side it’s
now instead of in front of the player
it’s behind them
okay and then it stays behind
them until the forces because the forces
that they built up and created through
such a straightforward motion as
described those forces build to become
too much to contain any longer and they
just spit
out back to where they began which would
be here so if you can imagine you look
at Ben Hogan would be like here I’m
exaggerating Ben Hogan’s like here up to
the
cup okay drops the other side
down to the lag the typical Hogan stuff
right and then from here it just goes
bang back to original and he’s over here
okay so it’s a
simple goal swing when it’s really good
it the
club starts on one side of the
player it orbits to the other side just
like the Earth orbits around the Sun and
then it
returns and if you think of a comet this
is my favorite analogy for this
is Gravity the sun is pulling the comet
in how his Comet 76e Journey right yeah
this Comet gains speed coming towards
the sun gains
speed round the sun spat out the other
side piss off to the other side of the
Galaxy 76 years later comes back okay
that’s what’s what’s happening is where
we’re beginning the GOL swing and people
are starting to Cotton onto this you got
to have some momentum in your swing I’ve
been talking about momentum forever but
you just got to get some momentum going
in swing it doesn’t have to be super
fast but it’s got to be
energy right so you you energize it
which is sending it away and it
returns and you are the Sun so as it
goes from one side of you to the other
it accelerates like crazy and that’s
exactly what happens in a goon it goes
from one side of you which is everyone
sees it it’s lag it’s all behind you all
that right it’s on the wrong side of you
that’s why it looks so
funny like I’ve got a ton of that
you know guys say were you trying to
pull angle no no no on the other side
and I’m happy to leave it there cuz I
know the more I leave it there the more
is coming out of there so why would I
want to undo any of it why do you think
it’s so difficult for regular players to
get a lag impact and really great
players seem to be able to either have
some or have a lot but they’re in that
that seems to be like a binary thing
where like late players have a lag
impact four players have yeah what we’re
talking about here is we’re talking
about the Haves and the Have Not that’s
what it is and and I can tell you where
the rubber meets the road for that
Divergence the haves have it from before
the swing starts all the way till the
ball’s
gone and the have not don’t ever have it
you can’t you can’t not have it and then
magically get it with some move in your
swing it’s not that’s what I hate about
traditional instruction that’s why I’m
no longer going to put videos on YouTube
In traditional instruction form like I
have because I’m not trying to convey
that message but it’s taken just like
every everything else and I don’t blame
the viewer that’s on me I’m the one
putting it up I’m not going to have that
conversation with the viewer anymore I’m
not going to say do this do that like if
you watch the series with jh I go to
Great pains to talk about it being done
before the swing right it’s it’s like
this the start of the Swing is the
end okay it really is so you begin at
the end and it’s almost as though
you end
it which creates it and that sounds a
bit you know woo woo esoteric I get it
but it’s like you have to understand in
order to achieve the you see top players
achieving you have to know what’s coming
and you have to know what’s coming well
enough that you can do it all before the
swing even begins that way what you know
is coming will actually come Jackie
Burke said Recreation is
Recreation you must recreate it every
time in order to recreate it effectively
you must know what to do to bring it
about not to do it and this is where
everybody’s got it wrong oh if I do this
and do this and do no no you’ve got to
know how to bring it about and everybody
listening to this if they search their
thoughts about playing
golf if they knew what they were about
to bring about they could play golf and
they do it
well but they go out there and they try
to do it and whenever they try to do it
doesn’t work and then they give up and
they go fck it I’m done right and then
they just start playing and hit better
shots so what are what are the good
players doing before the swing even
happens the bad players just never even
uh well it’s a really great question
forward and
yeah it’s it’s it’s m than that because
like look again we can talk for two
hours on it like cuz this is the deal
right this is like this is the deal but
I’ll I’ll I’ll try to bring it
into some semblance of just an answer to
your question but they are aware of
what’s about to come because they’ve
done it before as has everyone that’s
watching this but these guys have done
it well more often so they’ve got a
little bit more knowledge of what’s
coming so they
they’re preparing their body and
aligning themselves to the to the
club they’re aligning themselves to
themselves in a way themselves to the
club and then that to the ball and the
Target and right once everything’s
aligned they just let it swing because
for them when they’re playing well the
goal swings a goal swings a gol swing
they they don’t they’re not trying to
swing a golf club any more than if I
gave you a stick and you turn around and
you see that piece of artwork behind you
that’s behind you I you got a little
YouTube plaque there have you I do yeah
congratulations on that but look behind
you little the cat there yeah if I said
okay take a stick and wall up that cat
in the head yeah yeah that’d be simple
yeah right well if you’ve got all your
ducks in a row what’s left to do the
point is is
that the more you’ve done the less there
is to do
right if you haven’t done much the more
there is to do and and we all know that
you can’t get something from nothing and
you can’t get ludvig abber swing from
just standing there even though it looks
like he’s just standing there right it
looks so effortless but you know he’s
got everything all aligned and ready to
go and he just lets it shoot as you look
at the comments on that video you did
and and just as I see the the the
general feedback I get so
the more someone treats what I’m saying
as a how to swing a golf club the
further away they get from what I’m
trying to say so yeah you’d rather have
them see the forest and just start
swinging away from their own swing and
see where that takes well I I think this
is the way i’ i’ describe it is that
what a gol swing is is not well defined
I’m defining it a certain way you may
not like my definition other people
that’s okay but at least I’ve defined it
a certain way then within that
definition I have a coherent
whole what to
do why to do it how it works and those
three things have got nothing to do with
how you do it they’re just so you
understand the swing then if you
understand the swing in that way which
is my goal for all of the viewers is
that the how to do it becomes a
relatively simple thing which is why
six-year-olds can do it why 5-year-olds
can do it we Marvel at it we go how can
they do that right if you know what to
do or you at least don’t have the wrong
idea it’s not impossible and how about
how about you you’re still a young man
do they have like a Champions Tour kind
of thing in Australia that you’re go for
I was I was sort of toying with the idea
but I I’ve kind of got this I’ve been in
this head space
of wanting to figure this out and I and
I’ve only really
recently come to the the whole framework
that I’ve talked about on this call yeah
I’ve concretized it in my mind it’s
clear and so that’s why I was saying I
want to move away from instructional
content in a traditional sense into more
of a discussion of the framework and how
I think if people started
to understand the swing in this way it
would be easier for them to play golf
and that’s what I want to do um I I do
want to play golf myself but I’m not
like I’m not as motivated to do that
right now competitively as I am to try
to I want to help as many people as I
can when I was working with Mike we I I
said that to him I said look I CU When I
first met
him Mike was God inside 100 yards okay
and he was by his standards outside that
okay at the time and I was like wow the
contrast here is massive so inside 100
yards he’s Mike we outside 100 yards
he’s a human being trying to play Mike
we right he’s try to be whatever he
thinks Mike we should do and it was like
such a massive thing and I was like when
I told him that he’s like yeah no that’s
exactly what I’m doing right and I’m
like yeah it’s obvious right and I I I
get it because I used to do the same
thing with my whole game you know so
that’s what I and I see amateurs out
there they’re not playing gol go they’re
playing themselves playing golf like
they’re a character or something and
it’s all this fake they’re trying to do
and I get it because I tried to do it
all too so I understand I’m not knocking
anybody but I want to help people go out
there and actually play the
game that’s what I want to do all right
we’ll we’ll have you back on again
hopefully I can uh maybe maybe we can
get you uh flown out here to California
or something and uh I’d be up to that’
be fun yeah I’d love to do that yeah all
right cool yeah then then uh then we
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after the last video that we put up with
Martin which was the first one that we
did there were so many different
comments about how can we make this
actionable how can we take this Beyond
Theory and really make it actionable so
I called Martin and we had an over 2 and
a half hour conversation about this
specific issue okay we want to make this
actionable I think a lot of people can
see that there is some genius there’s a
lot of Genius in what he’s saying but
they’re like okay standing in front of
the ball what do I actually do you know
what is the thing to do so up on the
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Marcus where he details this thing
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young kids do and then he also has tour
Pros do and then also at the end what
we’re talking about right here I did a
video that Martin said was like 90%
there it was like really close but when
Martin was explaining what I should
specifically do in my swing I think that
really brought it together he Maps it
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know what you guys think if I flew
Martin out here to California and then
we did videos together and then I would
play golf with him and then maybe even
set up a match between Martin SS and
John Ericson I think that would be
really exciting okay talk to you later
bye now ask you a couple controversial
questions okay go right and I just
wanted to to make clear and give you a
chance to talk about them one thing is
the different Pros that you’ve worked
with the names that I’ve heard that you
worked with when um when you look at
them I just wanted you to talk about
some of the successes and maybe
struggles you’ve had especially like
when I look at like Cameron Beckman for
example and where he went on the World
Golf Ranking from around the time you
were working with him and then it seemed
like uh uh used to be a really big name
on the tour and I don’t know I think
maybe he had some health problems as
well and then also like I was looking
back you mentioned Mike Weir the other
day I was looking back and Mike Weir I
always thought he was just kind of like
had that that one really good Masters
and that was about it I didn’t realize
like for a for a span of 11 years he was
like a top dude for a right but around
2011 or so he
and I know this was around Stack and
tilt or whatever so I just wanted you to
talk a little bit about your experiences
with tour Pros some of the successes you
had some of the struggles you had and
where and uh kind of the the a little
bit no I’m happy to do that like I mean
that’s it’s something that um I can tell
you like okay still I’ll do Steve
elington first okay
so Steve elington
oh so beyond producing content you were
helping Steve with his swing as well oh
yes yeah that’s that’s the only
reason no so
like I do the only thing I really
remember and I think the timeline is
similar is he came really close to
winning the P that was sick that was
amazing I was there at whing Straits
yeah okay you were there okay yeah that
that was wild that was he was hitting it
he was hitting it a million miles for
him and playing like I the Tuesday of
that week I contacted his friend ter Ur
and said get on him get all the cash on
him because it’s just he’d been building
up he’d been