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00:00 Intro
00:26 Quick Refresher
02:15 Brace Leg Physics
08:33 Brace Leg Biomechanics
10:51 The Heel Pivot
12:49 Closed vs. Open Plant
16:32 Role of The Back Leg
19:16 Outro
27 Comments
FIRST. Great video! Loved the part about your body stopping the power when it hits it's max. Jamming yourself into positions your body doesn't like doesn't make you throw farther, and it usually doesn't end very well either!
I can't wait to see part 3. Holy crap man this has been sooooo enlightening. Idk if it will improve my game but it all seems so simple I've just been intimidated to try to break this all down myself from the physics side. So it's good to see that my options for better plants are bigger quads or going lower while wide to get more glute activation, to spread the load on muscles. Now I just have to figure out the ground reaction side of things such that my foot doesn't slide out on me.
I've always loved watching and understanding form and your videos are so good at explaining both the scientific and simple things taking place. Love it keep it up!!
Love the detail on the biomechanics.
How much of a role do you think the glutes play in a standstill drive?
Awesome video! I've seen so many videos on form and the brace leg, but this is the first one that really made it click and make sense. That one little example of the muscle groups used when jumping backwards was enlightening!
how do i keep my center of mass behind my front leg? i always tend to lean forward during the throw instead of being more centered
I’d love to see a systematic biomechanics breakdown of the backhand from start to finish. You’ve basically done that with this brace video with the vectors and such. A more detailed and complete version of that would be incredible. I feel like it really gets at the principles of throwing and could help someone break down their own form
I'm hitting my standstills at 68 mph more often now that I have a radar and can see the numbers.
Hitting 65 is easy, but when I try to add power I hit 60 more often than 68. Crazy! Tensing up somehow.
I can also easily hit around 58 without even doing a reach back at all… Meaning basically no reach back and just exploding on the spot.
Could you explain your cues in the standstill and maybe I can use some of them… Or not.
Clint's standstill is not transferable to an X step. And yours is more similar to what I do, or we all do, which is explode at the right time, so maybe you could help me speed up my progress.
Before reaching the moment the body wants to explode the throw, how do you get the power in the extra reach back? Do you merely let the body bounce back after the coil or do you power in before.
All this is very personal I know. But in your maximum coil. What is your workings/thoughts in that moment?
Any poetic word pooping could be helpful. I came this far on my own after all.
what a great series. Glad we get to see this with a biomechanical lens
My body is beat up from martial arts and I have the fun prospect of having external bias in my right leg and internal in my left. This is exactly the kind of thorough analysis that I need and appreciate. Thank you!
Great video! How does sb22 buttwipe drill affect to COM/brace?
be cool to see you tackle sidearms!
Okay guys I need some help simplifying my bag. My distance drivers, current bagged discs the flight numbers are what I think they actually fly like, (s)stands for seasoned (vs) very seasoned, DX beast (10/5/-4/1)(160g)(s), neutron wave (11/5/-2.75/1) (165g)(vs), star mystere (11/6/-2/1.5)(s), champion mystere 11/6/-1 / 2, Proton(plastic) Photon 11/5/-.5/ 3, Z thrasher 12/4.5/-3/1 (VS),Z crank 13/5/-2/2 (VS), Z nuke 13/5/ -.75 / 3, Star Shryke 13/6/-2/2, I blend Pharoah 13/6/-2.75/2(s), D3 air 13/6/-3.5/2 (157g)(S), blizzard boss 13/5/-1.25/2.75 (138g)(s).
My max distance is pretty inconsistent. My worst days should still be about 400’ but 435’ is a number I should hit most days when I have a proper tee pad and an open fairway. My Nuke will normally only go about 385’ but I have gotten it out to 440’ on flat ground.
Today I got to borrow a 168g G-star Corvette and down a huge hill and a perfect wind I pushed it out to 640ft. (honestly I was already looking at the corvette and now I have no idea what to throw). I do play at elevation. according to my card mates, who have traveled and played. they think a fresh Z nuke would be the disc I would like as a shapeable distance driver. If anyone has any ideas and thoughts I'd love to hear them.
Excellent information Nick. TY. Conceptually would it benefit to show the relationship of the Trebuchet components with the human body? Thanks for considering.
slow linear energy stored in the body transferred to kinetic energy into the disc.. i like how you said that. how does a 3mph part transfer 60mph into another part.. interesting!
WIll and Simon their braces are like kick stands on a motorcycle vs me and many others are pretty much on TOP of the brace or even worse falling over the brace.. i wonder if one could create a brace drill for stand still where you are starting off in that kickstand brace position since i cant find it in my natural throw..?
thats a nice point.. the faster your run up the wider your brace needs to be to counter the forward energy!
when pulling through the power pocket one thing i see that bugs me is how Simons elbow is down literally pointing towards the ground vs others pointing more away from you so outward is the word i guess.. i wonder which is better for sling shot speaking in a functionality of the joints perspective?
9:10 this was the key that got me to 550ft+ if you look how much back he shows to his target.. it allows for a straight line pull through so he can pull through cleanly and body doesnt get in his way at all!
i thought i was doing something wrong in the sense sometimes my brace foot doesnt rotate until waaaay after i throw and my leg looks twisted BUT if Wiggins is doing that then i cant be doing it wrong their.. i see what you mean by the rotation is to relieve stress from the throw vs actively doing it!
idk if you thought about it but you are smart enough to understand the CHATGPT when asking it scientifically about most ideal throwing forms.. i tried to talk with it about form years ago but was very hard to understand i would ask ? like is a flat nose better then nose down and how to achieve such things etc.
sorry for all the comments but this was one of the best videos ive ever seen!
Well done! Should note that Clint is actually using rear External Hip Rotation(and Foot Eversion) to rotate the pelvis, not Internal Rotation(Foot Inversion). He is pushing the pelvis away from the rear femur and foot. While Clint is a good example of power, I think his efficiency could be better. Wiggins also uses ER in his 360 and already has a lot rotational momentum going into the plant.
Thanks as always! So much good info in here!
I love me some free body diagrams. May not be helpful for everybody, but this is super awesome.
Right on! Nice work there!