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We learned late in the show that Stefon Diggs was traded to the Houston Texans (48:20). We analyze that trade for a while and debate Josh Allen vs. C.J. Stroud, Diggs vs. Nico Collins and more. But most of our show is about 2024 breakouts! We’ve got league winners for you to draft, and you may even have to reach for them. The shared breakouts for Dave, Jamey and Heath (1:30) is a fairly big list which includes Anthony Richardson, Drake London, Garrett Wilson, George Pickens and Kyle Pitts. We’ll tell you why these guys could be great but also what could go wrong for them … News and notes (14:00) and an alarming stat about quarterbacks drafted in the first round (17:00). Then we’ve got Jamey’s breakouts (21:35) including Dalton Kincaid and the aforementioned young wide receivers … Dave’s breakouts list (33:12) has Zack Moss and Zamir White, Chris Olave and two sophomore WRs we haven’t talked about. What is Olave capable of in his third season? Can he score touchdowns? Then after a Diggs detour, we finish with Heath’s breakouts (56:20) … Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com

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1:30 Shared Breakouts

14:00 News and Notes

17:00 CBS Sports QB Results

21:35 Jamey’s Breakouts

33:12 Dave’s Breakouts

48:20 Stefon Diggs traded to Texans

56:20 Heath’s Breakouts

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League winners breakouts yes what’s up welcome everybody it is Wednesday April 3 sleepers when you weeks breakouts wi you leagues TM welcome to the show and we’re talking about exciting players that could absolutely crush it this year however you want to find uh however you want to toine a sleeper and a breakout

Breakouts tend to be more high-end players so we’ll be talking about as Jamie said a few weeks ago I think receivers who are getting big quarterback upgrades Garrett Wilson Drake London George Pickins they’re going to be on the list Kyle pittz also fits that description except he

Obviously he’s not a wide receiver bejan Robinson was good last year we’re expecting him to be elite this year so uh I have a tough role on today’s show I basically just have to play Devil’s Advocate the entire time you don’t have to no we can’t just like you don’t you

Really don’t we could have a we could have a breakout show where where you don’t I or you could force us to be the people who play Devil’s Advocate could do that could do that but I’ve already prepared my devil’s oh good good good here here’s the list that based on

The list you guys gave me of your breakouts here are the ones that I think are the shared breakouts that I thought everyone agreed on I didn’t think you were gonna say shared there but glad you did I don’t I don’t know I don’t get that part okay po you thought he was

Gonna say poop why would I say that all right anyway um Anthony Richardson yeah Breakout by the way I realized uh yesterday Adam does not know how to check his mentions on Twitter or X whatever you’re calling it I do not God that was so frustrating I was

Sitting Jamie was texting me and I was so mad at him I was just like just you know the scene in Dumb and Dumber where he’s trying to get the number and he’s lighting himself on fire and he goes for God’s sake just give me the damn number

That’s what was happening with Jamie he was sending me these like cryptic texts that I was supposed to figure out no so we got we got a um a pretty bad reply to uh Adam’s podcast post from Monday show from uh a handle from a movie and I was

Just replied to him I go why’ you piss off the character I listed other characters from the same movie and Adam’s reply to me was why are you why are you sending me I’m not sure I get the references here and then Jamie says Twitter and I said ha I’m stumped sorry

And he said check your tweets I said I just did and he wrote and and I wrote I just have no idea what you’re talking about he would just just send me the damn link to the Tweet already anyway let’s get let’s get on to someone get had an absolutely ridiculous response to

Uh to my tweet of yesterday of Monday’s podcast was ridiculous and his name was a character from a movie and Jamie really threw me off and he’s thrown me off here so shared breakouts Anthony Richardson uh bejan Robinson Garrett Wilson Drake London George Pickins Kyle pit

Yeah yeah I think there was one da had to that I agree with um zamir white I agree with that one too that yeah I I didn’t put everybody’s on my list but I I agree with most of them I don’t see any reason to disagree at all with Anthony Richardson bejon

Robinson Garrett Wilson Drake London George Pickins Kyle pittz I mean these are gonna be popular industrywide breakouts think so most of yeah I think until until the draft it’s it’s always a little challenging to find the true breakouts because there’s going to be some situations where these

Rookies impact it one way or the other you know where there’s there’s some negative scenarios for these guys so how do we gain an advantage here if everyone has them on their breakouts list like do you reach for these guys or just make sure you try to get two of

Them like what do you do da they win you leagues then yes you reach for them right if you if you’ve got the conviction that these guys are going to put up career years and just absolutely annihilate other players that are drafted around them then you take them

And you might take them half round to a full round sooner than everybody else would little bit different in the case of Garrett Wilson you might just put him two or three spots higher than consensus in your well and bejan it’d be hard to take him around Bean right like do you

If you if you really believe in bejon you might take him ahead of mcaffrey sounds silly right now but the argument could be made I don’t know if I’d necessarily buy into it but it could be made and I guess that’s what the point of this all is it’s just what are the

Arguments that we can make all every single person we’ve named so far is definitely a candidate to break out it’s just what’s the argument that would make you have that conviction to take them around earlier than ADP I think there’s there’s three guys you Nam that will get

Drafted maybe a little bit sooner than they should Drake London is one Kyle pittz is another and George Pickins is the third I think all those guys have a have a potential to be drafted a little bit too soon so convince me that Garrett Wilson going at the beginning of the second

Round is not too soon Devonte Adams uh what he was able to accomplish with nonack Wilson quarterbacks two years ago wasn’t really that good you know I mean the rookie yeah 17 fantasy points a game again remember remember what I’m doing here is I’m playing but you don’t have to

No I do because I want to bring up the Counterpoint right I mean we got to have a we got to have a show we got to have some some discussion here um I always brought this up you know in that in that sense right like that you just said what

17 points per game that’s what he averaged as a rookie without Zack Wilson for for a good portion of that though was 21 points per game right but remember they were throwing like 45 times a game or something like that and he actually averaged more yards per Target with Zack Wilson than without

Zach Wilson That season it wasn’t like the quarterback play was so good they just threw the ball so much not going to do that with Rogers Well I think the point is it wasn’t like the quarterback play was so good like the the non Zack Wilson quarterbacks are have still

Mostly been not very good quarterbacks yeah yeah right I I know he’s got Mike Williams now actually a big concern and this will change the discussion big concern for me I don’t know if it’s a big concern for you is the Jets seem to want another wide receiver if they take

One what do they have the 10th pick uh if they take one in the first around would that change things for Garrett Wilson but I I guess I would say with Garrett Wilson and Drake London they’ve had bad situations but also they haven’t been great especially

London if they had been great then they wouldn’t be as good of breakout candidates because they would have already broken out sure but they’re being drafted you know Garrett Wilson is being drafted as if he has been great now let me just say again I would take

Him early in the second round I think it makes sense but I’m just pointing out like you look at a like AJ Brown AJ Brown was playing on a team that barely threw the ball and he was still absolutely unbelievable um you could say the same in some Seasons I would say for

DJ Moore at least in terms of yards it wasn’t touchdowns but he was still putting up a huge yardage Wilson in London and London especially have not done that yet so I guess that is my forced Counterpoint here to counter your counter point yeah Nico Collins absolutely he’s he’s you know the best

Example that and not the same Prospect as these guys so these guys have the ability to if they live up to their draft stock and what they were coming out of college to be better than what niik Collins was who got a quarterback upgrade after two years of toiling with

Bad quarterback play and looked like a star and so these guys have the ability to be Stars not only did he look like a star he had the opportunity to play like a star and that’s just the other Factor here Garrett Wilson terrible quarterback play last year still had 10 targets per

Game if he’s getting 10 targets per game from Aaron roders he’s going to be very good oh could be QB won he’s getting 170 Target wide receiver one yeah sorry for 40 touchdowns I think I think it’s tougher it’s it’s easier to say this all this stuff about London because he’s had has

He had a worse situation than Garrett Wilson I mean I don’t know but he’s been worse yeah I would say he has he’s a equally bad quarterback play or close but 150 fewer passes per season right like that’s also a play calling problem that’s the team trying to Rally around

Its Run game and be conservative and almost hide the quarterbacks it’s what we saw from the Jets a lot last year too and still Garrett Wilson had that average last year was 6.9 targets per game for Drake London so if if the targets per game goes up for him and the

Quality of Target goes up for him of course his numbers are going to go up and he’ll have a career best fantasy Point per game average terrible so far he’s gonna he should be very good but the also yes it’s easier to make those arguments against Drake Lennon and that’s why he’s

Not being drafted in the second round but you missed our Joe pisapia episode Joe said he thinks he should be drafted in the second round uh I’m second Jamie’s Jam’s there now at the two3 turn and I and honestly it makes sense because as we discussed when I took

Chris olve early in the third in the second round in a draft once you get past Garrett Wilson and AJ Brown and puka I don’t know that there’s a slam dunk wide receiver to go next oh is it be I think wide receiver nine uh there’s like

This big vacuum early in the second round after those guys I mentioned come off the board which wide receiver goes there and I actually do think Drake London has a pretty compelling case there Heath so no right now he’s not being taken the second round but um you

Know but some people are considering it I guess at least two people that I respect a lot and do you think that do you think that we you know the industry could get there and and ADP could get there for London I suppose it could especially if

It seems more and more like Kyle pittz is not a focal point of the offense and it’s beon and Drake London and we just hear more and more of that Steam and then cousins looks good at training camp and he might creep into that end of round two early like where Devonte Smith

And Jaylen waddle and T Higgins were all sitting last year okay so let’s wrap it up here with one question about all of our shared breakouts here uh Anthony Richardson give me some bigname quarterbacks you would draft Richardson ahead of Herbert yep Trevor Lawrence yep Tua Kyler perie yep yep

Prescott no all the old guys cousin Stafford in four points for passing touchdowns all right bejan Robinson is RB Blank Three that’s the one three Garrett Wilson did you say that with a sa Heath like you’re resigned to the fact that he’s three no I have um I think I

Actually have Kiren projected just a little bit higher but I would draft bejon higher because I think he’s a lot better player but Kiron could I mean if K’s rb3 it won’t would surprise me and I’m just I’m baking on the Falcons being Smarter with their play calling this year Matt

Weber’s asking who’s rb2 that would be Bree Hall Bree Hall Garrett Wilson or AJ brown brown brown brown but I go back and forth with this one they’re back to back Drake London or the old guys who showed decline last year Stefon digs Devonte Adams

London I’ll take old guys as of now old guys uh George Pickins or DK meaf Pickins Pickins I have metf one spot ahead of George Pickins and Kyle pittz is tight end blank seven for now I also have at seven seven so that’s behind concade yes yes that’s ahead of

Concade for me who’s six for you Heath KD K who’s Five For You Heath Ingram there okay who’s five for you Dave five for me is canade KD is sixth Pitts is seventh Ingram is literally one spot behind him in the overall rankings at

Eight and I I have it that way because I think you can get Ingram after pits in your fantasy drafts and it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if angram was better than pits in full PPR all right listen NFL Draft time it is April we’re about four weeks away not

Even so oh we’re like three weeks away all right we’re getting there uh so check out fft Dynasty Heath is bringing on great guests who have broken down the film and are given us terrific insights on every position here all the rookies that are coming into the draft and who’s

Going to make big fantasy impacts in their first year fantasy football today Dynasty you can follow it listen to it anywhere you’re listening to this podcast and the episodes are on Tuesdays and Fridays you can also watch it live or on demand at youtube.com fantasyfootball today we’re gonna take a

Break we got some news uh I got a quarterback a rookie quarterback stat for you and then we’ll get into all of the breakouts including Devon Anan uh tank Dell uh dalan concade zamir white Zach Moss all after this last stand I shall follow your lead

We’re on a search for one of the greatest powers ever known let’s fly yeah unfortunately we have to start with the sad news and our condolences to the family and the friends of Von Davis former cornerback for several NFL teams and a really great college player and good great NFL

Cornerback vonte Davis passed away at the age of 35 so sorry to hear it uh the chiefs made a couple of signings they resigned Clyde Edwards elair to a one-year deal and they signed Carson Wentz as their as uh getting he’s gonna get a chance to compete in training camp

Now uh cars wants G be their back what uh Clyde is Clyde a handcuff we don’t really talk about handcuffing peo but uh you know it’s interesting that they signed him after they kicked the tires on JK Dobbins and they haven’t done the same thing with Jerick McKinnon yet so I

Think that’s an unfinished room for Kansas City but yeah I think it means something that they brought C back I mean he was basically handcuffed when PCO had the neck injury last year so I don’t see why he wouldn’t be the handcuffed now and I wonder what I I

Wonder if this just means that Dobbins who’s now toured two teams in the AFC West is still still unsigned yeah yeah I don’t love that uh Baltimore head coach John Harbaugh said that the offense will look different in 2024 what do you take that to mean didn’t he say something like that before

2023 I mean obviously with the play caller change and at times it did look different I I don’t I’m not I can give my conjecture but I don’t know exactly what that means I mean I I would anticipate first off there’s there’s some offensive line changes that you know he could just be

Referencing sure um there’s you know a change in the receiving core you know no Beckham we’ve we’ve talked about this a lot you know do they run some more two tight end sets and you know isaia likely and Mark Andrews are on the field more together to open things up you know from

A different perspective but this is a team I think also you got to keep an eye on for drafting a wide receiver as well I mean this is uh you know a group that has had one underwhelming first- round pick and Rashad baitman you know and Z

Flowers you know who knows exactly what he’ll become but I would be surprised if they come away with a receiver or two in the NFL draft at some point not not a first round pick but somewhere in the middle of the draft they they come out with a couple guys they’ve done that

Before I I hope it means they’re gonna play both their tight ends and both their running backs at the same time Mitchell Derk Henry likele and Mark Andrews all on the field with Lamar Jackson at the same time one wide receiver sets uh well I think there’s this this

Perception out there that the Ravens threw the ball more last year with a new offensive coordinator they were last in the NFL in pass rate and they had the second fewest pass attempts in football only San Francisco which had three few Tennessee and Baltimore had 494 pass

Attempts San Francisco had 491 so they I don’t know really what changed you know they were great but they still were very runhe heavy uh and then the Colts resigned safety Julian Blackman who was a pretty important player for them last year there was an article on CBS

Sports.com that looked at the 46 quarterbacks who have been selected in the first round over the last 15 years and the they gave um incompletes to everyone from last year so young St even stad I’m pretty sure he got an incomplete but uh they they graded them home

Runs home runs would include Joe burrow Patrick Mahomes I I didn’t agree with all of the grades uh solid result I think I think I think Justin Herbert was in solid result Tua was in solid result mixed result like mixed result was like Daniel Jones was in mixed result I would

Have given him a a Miss um where’s Trevor Lawrence I think solid result I think um and then uh oh Deshawn Watson was in mixed result I believe and I would have given him a a solid result or a home run I mean he was so good with

Houston but but you know look we can we can quibble over the result uh one of our writers he he kept saying we I forgot who it was so I don’t know if it was a team effort but it was on our website anyway they looked at 46

Quarterbacks they give home run solid result mixed result incomplete and miss and these are first round quarterbacks first round quarterback there were only three first round quarterbacks last year yeah okay right so they last 15 years Dave they all got incomplete I don’t know who the who fourth to get an

Incomplete I’m not sure who was from two years ago maybe it was someone from two years ago looking this up right now it was Cody Benjamin okay okay he’s the guy who wrote he’s not the quarterback what he’s the guy who wrote the article he’s not the quarterback who got the

Incomplete I Gotta Give the big takeaway 50% 50% of the first round quarterbacks were misses so much bigger any other was Jordan love oh he may have been incomplete is that what you said yeah yes okay yeah that makes yeah yeah okay Jordan love that makes sense so you know you’re

Going to get maybe five quarterbacks in the first round you could get four in the top five last year was pretty damn good I’d have to say I mean even if it was just two out of three I depending on how you view Richardson but they’re not all gonna be good that’s for

Sure no especially if there’s gonna be five of them taken there might only be two that are good yeah and then you got to wonder like if you’re in a dynasty league and you’re doing a a rookie draft even if it’s superflex you know Caleb Williams

Seems like he’s in his own level but should should the next three picks be uh wide receivers no depends on what you need exactly but obviously it’s like anything I mean you’re going to take chances on the position that matters the most you know um you could probably do this with every

Position you know how many misses have there been Jay Jaylen rager went one spot ahead of Justin Jefferson I bet you yeah but I bet you um well I don’t know but because there was that stretch where we had like really bad first round wide receivers right we had uh that’s what

I’m saying are I I just feel like I feel like quarterback has more misses than receiver is would be my guess especially 10 yeah I mean it’s probably a similar percentage would be my guess you know if you if you really broke it down there’s obviously going to be more receivers

Taken than quarterbacks so I would I would think it changes a little bit but I mean there’s there’s when you’re doing these drafts you have to take these chances I mean last year there were four jsn Quinton Johnston Z flowers and Jordan Addison yeah but notably none of them

Were drafted in the top 20 or what what was the first one 20 19 something like that you know you’re not talking about the three guys who are going to get drafted in the top 10ish this year so I’m just wondering if those guys are safer they they probably are safer are

They wor drafting over Drake May for example whoever goes to New England well over whoever goes to New England I would say yes yeah all right way the draft will unfold though let’s let’s hope Drake May’s in Minnesota food for thought all right back to the breakouts Jaime’s list is

Anthony Richardson Devon Anan Garrett Wilson Drake London George Pickins Dalton cancade and Kyle pittz uh we didn’t really talk a lot about Pickin here I do love four games that he played Without Deontay Johnson he had a uh 28.9% Target share so he was terrific anything you want to add about uh George

Pickins again Jim’s breakouts are Richardson aan Garrett Wilson Drake London George Pickins cancade and Pitts anything you want to add about Pickins I mean you just see the potential you know again we we spent a lot of time on this the last few weeks with free agency and and the addition of

Russell Wilson and so so you can sit here and say Arthur Smith he was bad for for Drake London and how that all unfolded and and I get it but as a play caller he was good for AJ Brown and so that’s when he had a competent

Quarterback in Ryan tanhill and so I would say that he’s a competent quarterback in Russell Wilson you could debate where Russell Wilson is at this point of his career but he’s certainly gonna be able to I think bring out the best of George Pickins by comparison to

What he had over the last two seasons and so now there’s an opportunity for him he was the target leader for the Steelers last year but part of that was Deontay Johnson missing time targets per game I would assume favored Johnson but uh Pickins now has the opportunity to

Take a step forward year three um in an offense that will hopefully be a little bit more pass happy I don’t expect it to be dramatically more pass happppy but a little bit more pass happppy than what we saw last year okay and concade so yeah go ahead you know you’re

Looking at a buffalo receiving court right now that’s clearly changing you know so Gabe Davis is gone and the addition of Curtis Samuel is is a different type of player and so conc with the first round investment I gotta go back and find this somebody tweeted

It and I’m sorry for not giving credit but there was a stretch of games last year where somebody compared concade and leaport and basically the catches in The Yards were the same as just touchdowns and so you know for a guy that has this pedigree in this opportunity with this

Quarterback uh I think what we’re going to see is you know the best of conc this year and what we saw from him last year was when somebody was missing whether it was Dawson Knox or Gabe Davis Knox in the middle of the season and Davis at

The end of the year is when his numbers popped and his targets popped and so both those opportunities are there plus you have a disgruntled aging Stefan digs and so Shawn mcder already kind of said I think where they’re where they’re leaning you know they may come out of

The draft with the wide receiver but you know he talked about the the receiving group and he threw the two tight ends in there so I think they’re going to be big you know focal points of of this passing attack with canate obviously the the better pass catcher of the two so very

Excited about him like Dave said I agree wholeheartedly he’s he’s the fifth tight end coming into the season um wouldn’t surprise me if he’s better than the two other young guys that are going to be drafted ahead of him in leaport and McBride I don’t expect that to be the

Case because I love what leaport showed last year I think he’s going to get better love what McBride show last year as well that’s why I haven’t ranked the way I do but obviously based on where this guy was expected to produce and how he’s you know sort of shown flashes of

It the the best is yet to come if you want to pass the devil horns over here Adam I can I can play Devil’s Advocate against both Pickins and concade yeah go for it all right let’s start with concade in the last seven games with Joe Brady he averaged 5.7 targets per game

And under 10 PPR points per game by a lot it was eight PPR points per game you really have to drill down into those games without Dawson Knox to get the best out of Dalton concade 13.8 PPR points per game 7.4 targets per game that’s from weeks eight through 12 when

Dawson Knox did not play there was a bye-week in there as well I I I’m encouraged by Kade making a second-year jump if there’s no Gabe Davis and if the bills don’t add somebody with a a top 70 pick let’s call it something like that I

Don’t know how badly the bills are going to try and replace Gabe Davis as far as a perimeter receiver or if they’re going to just try and get by with Curtis Samuel in that slot roll that he had before with Joe Brady and khil Shakir playing outside and they just might say

Okay we’ve got Josh Allen let him do his thing throwing the football they also were a little bit more run heavy with Joe Brady calling plays taking a little bit of work away that’s the Devil’s Advocate case against cancade is that he just doesn’t get back to that seven

Target per game level that’s what you’re looking for from a fantasy tight end I’m I love the talent I love that the second year Factor like I said so I am gonna Bank on that for now with dton concade but that is the devil’s uh Advocate argument against him with Pickins look

So much of his fantasy production did come at the end of the year 18.6 PPR points per game in his final three with Mason Rudolph that includes a game where he had zero fantasy points so just on fire in those games in the last seven games after Matt Canada got sent packing

By the Steelers 13.1 PPR points per game we just got done talking about how bad Arthur Smith’s offense was for Drake London Drake London was the number one receiver for the Atlanta Falcons it is clear for now and it’s probably not going to change in the draft that

Pickings is going to be the number one wide receiver for the Steelers and even though it’s a better quarterback situation than what Arthur Smith had in Atlanta it’s still not great and so I love Pickins I believe I won a lunch bet with Pickins and Deontay Johnson last

Year that I need to cash in on one of these days but I I am a little bit nervous about pickings being overdrafted being taken too close to a ceiling we talk about that all the time and and just his his deficiencies as far as out running goes and not being a complete

Wide receiver also holding him back just a little bit from being one of these wide receivers that finishes north of 15 PPR points per game I just go back to one thing real quick about Arthur Smith with the Falcons and just from the conversation I had with him last summer

In regard to Kyle pits when he had a veteran quarterback that he trusted in Matt Ryan they threw the ball much more and so he has I think I think a guy that he’s going to trust I would hope two guys I would hope that he trusts more so

Than he had in Atlanta and the Steelers had hopefully last year as well you know whether it’s going to be Russell Wilson the majority of the Season or Justin fields and so whether that leads to them being upper half of pass attempts I’d be surprised because I don’t think that’s

What he wants to do but again maybe closer to the middle that’s I think something that could be realistic and let’s not forget they were 22nd to Falcons in pass attempts last year we cannot ever forget that that’s not about that’s not too bad gross passing yards

Per game which means they were actually 10 teams that threw for fewer yards than the Atlanta Falcons they weren’t as miserable as you thought no I mean yeah I also okay anyway I’m I will say just as far as the George Pickins upside um argument this is my favorite

New George picking stat he was the fifth player in his age 22 season to average at least 10 yards per Target on more than a 100 targets he is a stud in terms of the first four yeah Randy Moss Rob gronowski Josh Gord and Odell Beckham yeah and those guys

Stink like if if Russell Wilson can be just average Pickins could be a I’ve heard this from you before monster oh I’ve heard he wasn’t below okay and I again I don’t think Russell Wilson was was as bad as everybody else does last year oh

No but I’m sorry oh DJ Moore okay yes yeah yeah no and like I that’s that’s fair I think Russell Wilson has a little better track record than Baker Mayfield did going into that situation but yeah fingers crossed there’s a pretty good guy behind him too right as a thrower I mean he

Just unlocked I think he can unlock George Pickins too yeah yeah maybe I I think I I think the fact that he I think the fact that DJ Moore had such a good season is kind of making Justin Fields a little overrated uh there’s not really a shred of

Evidence to say that Justin Fields is a good passer his numbers are absolutely horri good passer uh well maybe not but if they’re not going to throw the ball much he has to do something good I mean Pickins obviously is the kind of guy who

Can do a lot by himself right that’s he can make big plays and but he’s could be very inconsistent that that could be a problem um there in the chat sometimes I try to pay attention to the chat takes my focus away from the show so that’s

Why I ignore it a lot I just made a $100 St Jude donation bet with one of our uh audience members one of our viewers Jeff he is insisting that Nico Collins will be better than Jamar chase this year uh he well he was going on about how Nico

Is better than Jamar Chase and then he said why don’t they pay attention to the chat blah blah blah so I said okay Jamar Chase is better than Nico Collins uh so he’s pretty pretty serious about this we just made a bet losers given a $100 to

St Jude remind us you know any parameters injuries or anything like that yeah I think we got to talk about AER stats and all that I said PPR fantasy points per game and I would say you you you only count games where they play 50% or more of the snaps did he ask

You to like put the money in escrow after the uh line shaving debacle no oh that’s true what line shaving oh oh the Oh I thought you you you said you would do something and then you didn’t do it no I will do I will definitely do that um but I feel pretty

Good that one of the more disappointing things you’ve ever done when you came back with a piece of paper with three lines on it taped at your head I love that it’s called a line shaving debacle right exactly the first thought is always like uh oh something really terrible happening in sports where

People are nope we’re talking about Adam aer’s hair I do want to save time for daveid and Heath’s breakouts obviously but let me ask you this about Pitts and concade um are they good enough breakout candidates where we actually shouldn’t be taking a top four tight end unless it’s just silly

Value I I think you’re looking at you know the value of where these guys will probably be drafted you know like um you know Dave referenced Ingram going after pits I think that’s probably realistic because the pits hype will start to spiral out of control again if he makes

Some plays in Camp and and everything that I’m sure Kirk Cousins and Raheem Morris will say they’re already releasing you know hype videos for the Falcons so they’re really excited about the changes in Atlanta you know after they started their offseason program this week so wouldn’t surprise me if

Pitts maybe gets a little bit too high from an ADP perspective but I think if the Valu is right on those two guys after the top four tight ends and really Andrews is going to be I think the one that swings it maybe mcde if he behind

Andrew but if you’re talking about round four round five for those guys and you can get those other two guys in concade and and pits a round or two later two rounds later up say is probably safe um if they’re round difference I think you probably want to take a chance on the

Top four guys because they just feel safe all right cool let’s take a break we got Dave’s breakouts Zack Moss zamir white and Chris oh Chris La definitely need to talk about him Jaden Reed Jackson Smith and jig but Dave was Dave saw Jim’s list agreed with a lot of so

You gave me five different names much appreciated there and then we’ll get to Heath’s breakouts as well and we’ll be right back on fantasy football today at CBS Sports Gazo Network we’re bringing you the game The Madness of messy AR breaking down the game this is unlike anything else in the world and

Changing the game get it all for nil that means free wa and all day long 247 we’re back on fantasy football today and just going to take a look at a recent draft we did for some reference Dave probably has because he like has memorized these drafts but uh Zach moss and zamir white are two running backs for Dave that are breakout candidates

And Zach Moss went late round seven in this draft I’m looking at that we did a few weeks ago and zamir white went three picks later so what do you think about are they that close Zack moss and zir white they are for now and things can obviously change especially in Las Vegas

All it takes is one draft pick within the first 100 picks of a running back by the Raiders and zamir white goes off this list with the quickness but I do think Zach Moss has a chance to exceed his numbers from last year last year was

A career best for Zach Moss almost a thousand total yards and seven touchdowns I think that was the number for moss in 2022 or 23 rather excuse me and we’ve already talked as soon as Moss went to Cincinnati and Joe Mixon was out of there we talked about Zach Moss a

Better version of Joe Mixon better yards per carry more explosive better yards after contact per carry like all the things that you look for from a running back those metrics were good and so all he has to do is spend off Chase Brown taking over more than the third down

Role and he’ll be in the exact same spot that Joe Mixon has been in for the last four years and Mixon has averaged at least 15 PPR points per game in that spot I think Moss could do almost exactly that like right around 15 PPR

Points maybe closer to 14 if he has that role and that’s the f is well there’s two ifs there’s the can he stay healthy if and can he keep that role and make sure that chase Brown doesn’t take too much away but the Situation’s good the offensive line should be good enough and

The receivers assuming T Higgins stays will keep the safeties playing back it it just all makes sense for Zach Moss have his best year ever I I am a lot more excited right now today about like I agree with Dave that if the Raiders take a running back with a top 100 pick

Then zamir white takes a big hit but right now I’m quite a bit more excited about zamir white than I am Zach Moss just because there’s so much less competition um and he was with this coaching staff towards the end of the year last year when Josh Jacobs went

Down and they just fed him and I think this is a team that would love to run the ball 30 or 35 times a game and let their defense wins win them games so zamir white stays healthy and they don’t use a top 100 pick he might be in the

Top five in the in Rush attempts this year yeah I I I agree I don’t know if he’ll get that high in Rush attempts but top 10 I think is certainly within the range of possibilities uh but obviously like you said he he was he was fed quite

A bit so I guess there is the potential for that but uh Moss at is cost right now is fine I just I’m so worried about him just being a flash in the pan of the five games that we saw last year and you go back to his time in Buffalo when he

Was given this opportunity he was basically the guy that the bills tried to make their starter and every time he fled whether it was due to injury or poor play and it was on what was supposed to be a great offense and it was the same type of system we talked

About this quite a bit about running out of shotgun and how much this is a similar system to what he was in in Buffalo and in Indianapolis and so again round seven is hard to you know Overlook what he can become and and it could just

Be a five game sample size of him staying healthy and being productive and doing all those things before either he gets hurt or chase brown maybe takes over it could be trayon Williams or they may still add somebody as well because none of these guys have you know at

Least long-term deals Jase Brown’s on his rookie deal but um I I I think from the standpoint of who has more upside for me it’s white um and Moss is somebody that unless it’s probably after round six I will be avoiding just because I I I really fear the potential

Of him flopping in this opportunity and so if let’s just say that you’re in a draft and you end up with Zach moss and you have that fear of him flopping Chase Brown went in round nine and our most recent full PPR mock you could take him in round eight if you

Want to you could lock up the Bengals backfield with back-to-back picks after 80th overall that doesn’t sound so bad I probably would rather have somebody in the Moss pick and then just take Chase Brown you could do that too so who’s picked around Moss uh zamir white so you

As of now zamir white and Chase Brown would be your preference 100% okay yeah so it yeah Moss I I just I will point out he also had four games at the end of the 2022 season where he did fine he didn’t score a ton of fantasy points because he didn’t score

In except one of them um and that does kind of like if you look at his career he doesn’t catch a lot of passes I I hope that changes I also think that the situation in Indianapolis was much better for rushing efficiency than it is in Cincinnati well why he wasn’t really

With Richardson that much well he wasn’t even with him in week one that was one he wasn’t with him in week one I just don’t think that the Bengals have a good run blocking offensive line or system no but they face much better Talent around him though they face light boxes this was

One of the biggest knocks on Joe Mixon he had one of the most advantageous rushing situations always a light box one of the highest light box rates and he was Terri he just couldn’t do anything they didn’t have an offensive line they could block a light box I I

Mean did the Colts have like some great offensive line I I I don’t know that they used to last year Moss’s eight in the Box rate was 14.8% mixon’s was 15.2% both of those were very low so I I feel like it’s M was lower than mixon’s Yeah

By I mean he was a lot better wasn’t he better than Mixon I mean but that’s not the reason why it’s not because of the both of them were below three yards per carry against eight in the Box too all right if you want let’s just see I I

Don’t know the stats here so run block win rate the Bengals according to ESPN were ninth best the Colts were 11th so it looks like they had Fairly similar situations now PFF does not grade the Colt the Bengals offensive line well say by that one there’s there’s a lot of

Different offensive line um measurements right now and they don’t align very well yeah that’s I’m very suspicious same same okay uh let’s go to the rest of Dave’s breakouts list Chris olve jayen Reed and jsn olve obviously gonna get drafted much earlier do you think Chris olve justifies a second round pick

Dave he almost does by default because he’s one of these young receivers with huge upside and if you just drill down into the 11 games last year he had at least seven targets he actually had at least eight Targets in those games it’s 17.1 PPR points per game it could be

Just as simple as saying okay New Orleans doesn’t make a Big Splash in their receiving core they don’t try and lean on the run as much as they did last year maybe they don’t have tesm Hill and and that doesn’t Harpoon half the offense and Derek Carr stays healthy ol

La could end up having his best year in his third year and to me it’s just it’s just the guy who’s got supreme Talent continuing to get opportunities and putting it all together with his quarterback Heath I don’t think you’re on this one no and I I I like the talent

It’s just with London and with Garrett Wilson it’s very easy to look at the situations and see look these are Elite wide receivers and look how much better the situation got for them we’re finally going to get Elite production with Chris olve it seems like it’s the exact same

Situation he’s been in his entire career which is fine I think he’s a he’s a lowend number two and he I I am kind of surprised that that Dave likes him because he’s he was really hit or miss last year like he had a lot of games you mentioned the games

Where he had more than seven targets and he was awesome in those games but he also had a lot of games with like 45 yards um and so I I think you’re gonna continue to have those in this mediocre Saints offense see that’s the one thing though that I’m curious about is the

Addition of Clint kubak going to make things that much better for everybody and clearly a lot falls on Derek Carr and we know how he feels about Derek Carr um so we we’ll we’ll see how things go go there in in terms of the quarterback play uh but I do think a

Change in in play caller matters here and and what we’ve seen from these San Francisco guys and that’s where kubak is coming from and obviously he has his father’s pedigree as well is the the ability to get these guys out in space and and make plays after the catch yards

After catch and ove now you know for what it’s worth I know Michael Thomas has missed a ton of time but this this is a receiving that’s missing guys you know I’ll go back to what Dennis Allen said at the owners meetings in in the takeaway we had in that they’re looking

To add a pass catcher not necessarily a wide receiver so does that mean a tight end does that mean another pass catching running back or does it mean another wide receiver and so right now they’re starting wide receivers you know their top three guys are Chris Rashid Shahed

And and Cedric Wilson you know so it’s a it’s a pretty clear path to him dominating targets if he plays the way he’s capable of playing so I do think that there is a chance for a guy going into year three you know who’s shown some some very impressive flashes to

Take that step forward but you are again asking Derek Carr at this point in his career to do that and that’s really I think the only drawback but you know you look at where these San Francisco guys have gone you know and again I’ll reference niik Collins year three he

Goes to a situation where they just open up the offense and and hopefully the same thing happens with you know kubak system so I’m excited about a lot I do think you know and we spent some time talking about it feels like you’re settling for him in round two because of

What he’s done you know and it’s People Like Us that continue to prop him up to whatever degree you know based on Talent or or opportunity or all these things but at some point if it does click you’re going to be pretty thrilled about what he can become and I think this is

The year that’s going to happen yeah by the way I just want to comment on something someone wrote in the comments that they like Jaime’s breakout lists a little better than Daves but I just want to point out again Dave no Dave he gave different names he

Said he agreed with a lot of what was on Jamie Jamie responded first so Dave was just giving some kind of deeper I I just I just gave a list that included these guys so I I didn’t didn’t did not care right and the whole point of this is

Just to come up with candidates anyway so it’s not like I’m saying oh Garrett Wilson’s gonna suck he’s not a breakout it’s it’s not that it’s just these are guy these are talking points of players that could have a career I can’t believe you like Zack Moss more than bejon

Robinson I know I’m an idiot and and for for anybody that wants more of this I’m writing the first version of sleepers breakouts and bus this week so sleepers are on the side already breakouts will be on by the end of the day today and

Bus tomorrow all right ol I just want to point something out with a l he has been among wide receivers 16th in yards per game both of his NFL seasons so that’s with you know one one year his rookie year a really bad I’m I’m just gonna say

Just on based on total numbers they didn’t throw a lot they they threw for hardly any yards he was 16th in yards per game last year they threw a lot more they weren’t as efficient but they threw a lot more they had more yards he was

16th in yards per game uh that’s better than Garrett Wilson’s been that’s better than Drake London’s been but at least it tells you that he’s got a path to being a top 15 receiver at at worst you know but he just doesn’t score touchdowns and

He so far it reminds me a lot of Terry McClaren that CIS La does not get Red Zone targets he does not get green zone targets I don’t really know how to project that but so far through two seasons he has something like 20 Red Zone targets uh in two seasons that’s

Terrible so and again going back to the Carter situation it’s hard to expect a big change in the touchdown numbers playing with a quarterback who’s only thrown more than 28 touchdown passes once in his career like you’re asking him to have 40% of his team’s receiving touchdowns we talked about this with DJ

Moore when he used to never score more than four well the team never threw more than 20 um it’s more difficult to have like we could see Aon Rogers throw 35 touchdown passes even if he’s just mediocre in terms of everything else um it’s hard to expect that from the Saints

Yeah like eight touchdowns would be really good for a lota he has nine in two seasons you know you brought up something early Adam which I think makes sense you know when you get past really the AJ Brown puka Wilson receiving you know line you know

You want you want to call that’s where the the cut off starts then it’s that that mixed bag of guys you know with the the two older receivers which I think will be the only two I guess you could throw Mike Evans there it’s hard to Discount what he’s done so you know

Evans Diggs and and Adams and the two 49ers guys uh for me niic Collins I think a lot of us probably feel the same way um and and I I’ll put I’ll put London in there but that’s kind of where should belong you know he he he sort of goes in

That next group you know not necessarily should be in the in the first group which is where he was being drafted last year and that was a mistake okay and jayen Reed and jsn Dave are a couple of breakout candidates for you who do you like jsn is kind of one

Of those shrug your shoulders guys and say well he can’t be any worse than he was last year going into his second season in Seattle say that 10 times fast I I I’m just I’m hoping that he can takes a lot of targets away from Lockett

A few away from DK be a factor in the red zone and be be finally worth the ADP because it’s been nothing but projection ever since Seattle drafted him Reed is someone that I fell in love with during the draft process his last eight games plenty of touchdowns still 17.4 PPR

Points per game his Targets cratered in week 18 and then through the playoffs I think he was playing hurt and overall on the season 13 .6 PPR points per game you’ve heard me talk about how Jordan loves was a great quarterback and and really did well regardless of who was on

The field I think this is his best wide receiver and Reed playing in the slot not a high a dot but someone who can make plays after the catch I think he can come back and maybe flirt with 15 PPR points per game and we’re drafting

Him in our drafts kind of in the same range he’s going like the ADP overall in our PPR drafts is very similar between between him and Christian Kirk and George Pickins and DeAndre Hopkins and ultimately I expect most of those guys to go ahead of Jaden Reed I love the

Idea of trying to get Reed as my number three receiver and if I have to settle for him as my number two might make me gross out a little bit but it wouldn’t surprise me if he ended up finishing as a top 24 type of wide receiver if not top

20 what is a good you might know this better than I do what’s a good Target per route run rate uh 20% or more I think is the number Heath might be able to speak to that better than I well it I I think that good that word good like I don’t know

That’s not certainly not Elite it’s certainly not really good noine for being a fantasy starter I’ll go ahead and what’s whoa Stefan dicks has been traded to the Houston Texans no are you kidding me what day is it it’s it’s not April 1 no now this is from Adam schfer oh my

Gosh so I’m gonna go ahead and take tank Dell off of my breakouts list breaking you can remove tank Dell from my breakouts list and I think you just won is number one TI fantasy right now my gosh I know I know I’m on the air is Josh Allen qb1

Still no but CJ CJ going straight up he was on my breakouts list yes wi yes easiest CJ case ever and now you can say goodbye to Nico Collins being as good as he was last year so what what do you what’s your what’s your guess on draft pick compensation here one

Second let me see what they have they just got they got a ton of picks from Minnesota by the way uh I think the bet the Nico Collins versus Jamar Chase bet is gonna have to you congratulations that was the fact just send the money in now Jeff uh

Houston has two second round picks 42 and 59 one third round pick that’s 86 there’s no way they give up a first for him future first oh I don’t know if they gave up a future first I’ll predict one of the twos and one of the fours yeah I

Would say at best I’m gonna go less than that under yeah I I would say under two yeah but you kind of saw this coming right just the way that the season ended and Diggs just kind of I I thought I could see this coming could we go back

To the sleepers thing and put khil Shakir and Curtis Samuel back man that was a great sleeper this week Adam is stunned right now he doesn’t he can’t speak still recording you got me okay sorry you guys got me now we good uh sorry about that let’s um let’s talk

About this who’s the best who’s the best Texans wide receiver right now and do any of them belong in the second round I’m gonna say Diggs and no I’ll say Nico and no I’ll say Nico and not to how early are we top 30 pick wow yeah

Maybe maybe yeah for Nico or for dig whoever I mean everybody will take Nico ahead of Diggs and I’m I think everybody will I think we’ll still see ADP favor digs because it’s the name you know I’ll go Nico 25 to 30 digs 31 to 36 it’s

Probably a good range do you have the projection Jed Heath and what about do not what about t oh man this crushes him Great Value this is your fault by the way you with the stupid April Fool’s joke what what how does this have anything oh yeah it

Was about tank Town that’s right uh okay so CJ strad or or Josh Allen CJ Str or Josh Allen oh man I mean Allen was fine last year when Diggs was brutal doesn’t matter it’s still a threat of dig they receiving cor is brutal right now no obviously obviously they’re gonna

They’re gonna draft a wide receiver I mean there’s no chance they’re not drafting a wide receiver of course or they’re trading for T Higgins oh yeah that could happen they’re gonna run the ball 550 times uh probably signing in in Buffalo CJ strout or Josh Allen right now

Allen you can’t get two carried away yeah probably Allen like can you put strad ahead of Dak easy I don’t know I had him head of Dak anyway I didn’t nobody Tak him over burrow that was my next question yeah burrow Lamar Jack is Str is now

Qb4 wow so four five sorry five five five okay me oh my Heath CJ stra was one of your breakouts yeah like I said I mean with this receiving core how could he not be um two second round picks from 2025 no oh wow a 2025 seconds what they

Got I’m sorry exchange for a package of picks including a second round from 2025 so that means the best pick is the second round pick in 2025 oh here it is bills receive bills received 2025 second round pick from Minnesota so whatever trade that was from uh probably the digs trade I guess

Texans receive Stefan Diggs a 2024 sixth round pick and a 2025 fifth round pick so he just went for a second round pick slightly L yeah yeah for next year I wonder if you don’t trade great receivers for that return so I wonder if there’s a a consensus at least

Between what DeAndre Hopkins go for or AJ brown brown for well Brown went for a first but and and he had to be paid so that’s not even in the same Stratosphere factoring in Dig’s contract too so you have to you have to trade his contract yeah by the way uh the second

Round pick that they’re getting was the one that they was the one that uh Houston just acquired from Minnesota in the trade that gave Minnesota Houston’s first round pick a couple weeks ago no it’s an awesome trade for Houston and my guess is that they’re just going to use they’ll probably use

Diggs all over the place they’ll keep Nico on the perimeter and they’ll use tank Dell they’ll line up tank Dell all over the place but try and take shots with him man I was so excited about Noah Brown it’s good or bad for Joe Mixon uh it’s both yeah it’s good it’s

Good because I don’t know how defenses are going to stack that box ever we just got done talking about how bad he was 2.3 yards per carry against eight in the Box last year but it’s bad because now there’s a lot of mouse to feed and and I

Don’t know if Diggs is as good as he once was fans probably are but remember in this division was gonna be Jacksonville’s for the next five [Laughter] years oh boy I don’t really I mean this is a lot to digest here so would you take

Um Mike Evans oroke out Mike Evans or a Texans receiver Evans yeah Evans I’ll take two Texans receivers okay and would you take tank Dell or jsn Jayden Reed Dell D I think I’ll land on Dell over Reed Reed last year was bad when Watson was healthy that’s the problem that yeah

I never got to go through my uh my target per route run rate but for Jaden Reed it was when Christian Watson was out weeks one through three 27.4% Target you know what it better I’ll tell you just what he was on Pace for in terms of Targets in 17 games that

Might be easier for people weeks one through three without Watson on Pace for 113 targets weeks four through 13 with Watson on Pace for 83 targets weeks 14 through 18 he missed one of those games on Pace for 128 targets absolutely massive difference uh when Watson was in

The in the you know playing and versus not playing that’s Jaden Reed I’m not sure if there’s anything else you guys want to say about the Stefon digs trade we didn’t talk about uh James Cook but it’s obviously the Bills roster is so incomplete right now so a lot a lot to

Be determined there the CJ stra just went from incomplete to uh on on the quarterback rating scale for CBS and Heath I honestly don’t think we need to talk about your your breakouts oh you could Bree Hall want to talk about him your breakouts are stad Richardson Bree Hall Beall should have

Been in the group breakouts we all have Bree Hall as a breakout except wasn’t he like the number two running back in Fantasy last year I think he broke out last year so he may not have been that high per game but I don’t think he was that

High okay overall Bree Hall was number two number two overall and number six per game SE I could buy it though 17 points per game he could crush that oh I think he could like he is the by far the most likely back not named Christian mcaffrey to be the number one running

Back in fantasy this year sure and I took him in a draft that I think we may have done it on the air or we talked about it on the air I took him second overall I think and uh people didn’t agree with that so they wanted the

Receivers there so do you take the receivers or do you take Bree Hall h in what format I’m sorry PPR League hall or which receivers any receiver you’re number one receiver oh um so this is something I struggled with because I did that in one of the drafts and um it

It Zach posted it on on Instagram I was very surprised with all the reaction uh I think the receivers make more sense just from the standpoint of what happens in round two because you can’t get a very safe and receiver that has as much upside as any of your favorite top four

Guys whereas in round two you might be able to get saquon Barkley Josh Jacobs James Cook Isaiah Pacho Rashad white all those guys I just think it’s a better draft strategy so while brol has a higher ceiling than those guys I think the pairing is better of going with

Those those Elite wide receivers and the running back in round two if you want to go to the hero RB all right we’re gonna end the show here Dave hopped off to do some HQ Heath and I are gonna do fft in five we’ll talk about the digs trade

There Jamie’s going to do something I’m sure and we will talk to you tomorrow with our 2024 early bus list then again you can check out the content on the website as Jam’s writing up the Articles we’ll talk to you soon bye everybody

16 Comments

  1. Derek Carr simply cannot support a WR with Olave skillset. If you draft him round 2. You will lose your league. Olave with Carr is a late 4th round to mid 5th round draft pick.

  2. The last 7 games for kincaid… he was on the injury report for 3 of them. They were by far his worst games of the season.

  3. Quit saying Moss was bad in Buffalo, different situation and he was a rookie, he has more time to learn but his only holdup is the injury issues.

  4. Adam. You are so wrong about Fields. “Not a shred of evidence he’s a good passer.” Stop looking at the stats. The play calling was awful for him his whole time in Chicago. Not allowing him to pass even an average amount will make his stats look bad. Watch his tape with DJ Moore, he threw many great passes to him. Seriously bud.

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