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Willie Mason & Justin Horo present Levels Podcast, twice a week reviewing & previewing all the NRL games also giving their best tips.

Willie Mason is a former Kangaroo and NSW representative, is considered one of the most successful front rowers in NRL history. In 2004, he was a part of the famous ‘Dogs of War’ team that won the Grand Final, and he also received the Clive Churchill Medal during that match.

Justin Horo is a former NRL player who played 120 games for Parramatta and Manly from 2010 to 2015. In addition to playing in the UK Super League, he also represented the New Zealand Māori team.

0:00 INTRO TAB GOLDEN SLIPPPER RECAP
1:45 HORO’S BETS RECAP
5:22 BSC DAWGS OF THE WEEK
11:10 YOUTUBE QUESTIONS
18:30 PENRITH V BRISBANE
35:35 WARRIORS V CANBERRA
48:31 ROOSTERS V SOUTHS
1:01:10 BULLDOGS V TITANS
1:09:18 ST GEORGE V NTH QLD
1:17:32 WESTS TIGERS V CRONULLA
1:25:07 EELS VS MANLY
1:35:30 NEWCASTLE V STORM

This is the levels Network I’m just hor joined by the triple OG wam Mason round three is in the books OG it’s G quick isn’t it yeah it’s getting we’re getting into the season aren’t we I think we’re starting to develop some form lines yeah we know we know he’s pretty ordinary we

Know is middle of the pack and the top four speaking of form lines mate want to give a big shout out and massive thanks to our partners Tab and Sky Racing um for heading out to Golden Slipper um heading out to Rose Hill for Golden

Slipper day and we got some Jam you hit the uh you hit the winner for the Golden Slipper you’re welcome tab I didn’t even know because I remember they said uh lady Camelot whatever so I had um obviously responsibly did Ben or Emma give us that on the prev said it that’s

What stuck in my head and I’m like definitely not going to go um fully lit fully lit but I’m like that Camelot one because I wanted good good value yeah you did yeah so yeah I got it and I wasn’t even watching the race I was

Watching a little bit I was having a chat with it with a guy I went oh yes yes I’ve got it so yeah I end up winning unfortunately I didn’t with Switzerland um it was still a great day I was I was going all right until we started uh

Dropping my tips I’ve got I’ve got a there’s like a um Bad Karma around putting your tips out and like putting it into the universe whatever you do it it doesn’t work I wasn’t even going to put a bet on I went it’s the big one

You’re not a big punner so you only do the main races don’t you yeah yeah so shout out again to our partners Tab and Sky speaking of our partners tab we’ve got a quick recap mace I did awful round three uh really good obviously the first couple rounds to start the year but

Currently in the negative My Only Hits uh this week uh were the Tigers plus 11 a half who look really good J Buller at $3.75 was my only anytime Tri scorer and the Knights just scraped home by half a point minus one and a half all the other

Results no good don’t worry about the tri oh tarpy was very close he got a trisled which we’ll talk about and um even though I had him obsessed with so gronos plus 10 a half no that was done as soon as well she was done Raiders

Plus 7 and a half missed that by half a point south completely missed that we’ll get into that it’s one of the biggest stories Titans one and a half missed that dragons plus 6 and a half I thought I was 20 minutes into that game and then

Somehow still got blown out and Manley plus one and a half I want to break down the referee in that game mate Cu uh I thought it was very favorable to the parameter eels and we’ll break down the obstruction rule with three its 10 so the outlay for the first three weeks is

480 the kitty is 4385 so I go from a $42 profit to a minus 42 uh in 50 you’ll S one killed you yes it was a bad week across the board mate as always we want everyone to be playing safe during this footy season so please keep front of

Mind what are you really gambling with and if you need free and confidential support call 1800 858 858 uh we are heading up to the hunter Valley mate yes uh we’ve got a golf day coming up on April the 26th so just before luky has

His fight uh up in go Coast will be at the hunter Valley Cyprus Lakes is it no we are uh at Ridges Resort at Hunter Valley uh that’s where we staying they’ve also got a golf course there and this is for a a great cause mate this is

The rednose golf charity day a um hosted by uh Cooper Cooper Harris and the team so uh there are currently four teams still available me and you are part of a team of 25 there’ll be 25 groups there are four W uh me and you will be with

Cooper and his gang um so uh to get tickets for the final four teams you can message the Facebook page at page Harris electrical or you can message Cooper directly on 0439 2706 I’ll get ly to put that in the bio as well for anyone who wants to to chase

That up um me and you will also be uh doing the auction after okay as well we’ll be handing out this a whole heap of prizes uh and it’s for a great cause Hunter region that’s where you do your best work OG so NOA back home going back

Home if you’re from Toronto West Nova castr or or even the central or even Sydney if you want to make it David we’ve got room we got a we got a room at The Ridges as well so we’re going to we’re going to enjoy ourselves have a couple of uh Schooners throughout the

Day and and have a good day little heads up awful golfer but I’m I’m good off of course I’m on fire at the moment mate so yeah yeah yeah we’re uh we’ll be together so it’ll be it’ll be a best ball format so we can use my ball for

The most part mate and and we’ll go from there I’m feeling good at the moment I’m striking them well um we want to uh everyone who’s been following us will know subscriptions jump on whether that’s YouTube Instagram Tik Tok for follows or you can subscribe on Apple

And Spotify or leave us a podcast review they all help out um and that’s how we build out our show for for those who uh just listening for the first time because we continually just keep getting all those new listeners all the time M um let’s get into the footy mate yeah

Let’s go and our dogs of the week have brought to you obviously from our Partners BSC so a massive thanks to BSC have you tried their latest energy drinks it’s the ultimate solution for boosting focus and mental performance which our dogs of the weeks well and

Truly have before they go out there and put on a performance uh it’s got 160 milligrams of caffeine there’s no sugar no carbs and it’s has to tested because like I said all of our athletes that we enjoy watching week to week out there in the NRL going Head to Head Yep they’re

All pumping the BC energy drinks Ma so without further Ado your BSC dog of the week is the week dog of the week M’s appy carusa I looked at every game I watched every single game I usually go for you know middle forwards the locks

And all that kind of stuff I was just like what he did I mean like that everyone’s sort of doubting Benji doubting the Tigers correct and krala are are that team they’ve won their first two games they won over against the Warriors they’ve beaten us he went

On there he without ABY Caro win I agree the control around the rock his little try to um all him slink him through but he’s deception Around The Rock when he’s on he’s easily the best nine in the game him and Harry Grant him and Harry Grant

Very very even the no looker for no that was unbelievable he does that better than probably anyone that I’ve seen ever at any position skill set is very high 12 runs 76 me two line break assists two tries three tackle breaks and 42 tackles

And I think um he had gastro all week so he’s feeling like [ __ ] and he only played what 65 minutes 65 they gave him a spell I don’t know if you’ve seen the postmatch presser did you see the postmatch presser so basically Benji talked about it I don’t watch the

Depressors yeah I love the depressors but I I love seeing Benji I watched Benji’s presser last week I thought he was impressive um but on this one U I’d watched it and um he was mate you should have seen him he was that dejected and you could see he was struggling Benji

Said he was being modest cuz he tried to play it down yeah uh that’s what a really good Skipper does but Benji Benji basically said he shouldn’t have played um and he he he got a spell at the end just because they’d got to a lead and

And Benji gave him rest but then he but he does that like how how good is that from a player like he shouldn’t have played and then he still dishes dishes that out yeah for sure that’s how good he is well he was my dog of the week

Until you took him um so that shows that we were both on the same page with that there was a couple of guys that were very Victor rley was close but then I look at sth and I’m like they ain’t it yeah they were he was dominant and he

Ste he stepped up for his uh for his big boy in his he’s going against um you know uh cam Murray as well so they usually go at it and there’s couple of the best locks in the world at the moment C muray is the only one who can

Hold his head high at the moment in that club yeah but that that that forward pack I don’t I don’t rate it as good as uh K yep all right well my body science BSC dog of the week V kick out it’s Fijian they’re all fijians yes

Dominating the do of the week yeah it is too yeah the bullers yeah the bullers are Multicultural week how good’s that uh 15 carries for 122 m not bad kicks has got that in the bag that’s he can he can average that that’s that’s kidy for

Him 55 post contact meters I want I want them to to I really want to highlight those meters because at the moment uh how this team is constructed and I want and we’ll get it the moment they’re the a lot of the time to set a line and he getting a lot of

Even though it’s early bore it’s a lot of [ __ ] carries in and and uh and basically they they want him to get momentum so they throwing it to him he’s getting two to three people in and uh he’s just trying to find his way to get

A quick play the ball so they can have some Joy on the right we you talk about in the review he also had a line break assist three offloads 16 tackles and four misses the reason I’ve highlighted the four misses is because all misses aren’t the same so his misses are

Different tap when he tried to kill that BG when he misses he is striking fear into the opposition it’s not like he didn’t have any of the misses where he’s getting dusted by good shape he’s getting dusted by good footwork he was going after it mate and honestly he

Completely spook Tanner boydd poor Tanner Boyd that that could be the last game he plays for the rest of the year off the back of this uh he wanted nothing to do with kicks he obviously got the charge down which led to his try he just dropped that he just

Stopped on a couple of plays cuz he was just [ __ ] himself so like I said not all Miss tackles are the same and he missed a couple where he shot out of line and uh it wasn’t only T boy it was a couple outside backs that were were

Running apprehensively is the nicest way to put it put it that way yeah Tanner boy little bit off yeah he’s definitely uh we we’ll talk a little bit more about the game and specifically T boy moving forward there are a couple of halfbacks um that have been dropped to New South Wales C

Cup it’s not a bad location for for a halfback um you know they they’ve it’s definitely a position of need for the Titans it’s we’ve been it’s not just this one game now and and I don’t mean to pile down on T Boyd but I’ve been

Saying this for a while now um when we get into the games we’ll start looking at you know some of these players that aren’t playing first grade specific speically you know Jackson Hastings Loy helus players like that um tner Boyd’s playing the wrong system it’s all it is

Couple of those guys would go look really good I think or or go really well up in the goal Co all right mate let’s get to uh the Youtube questions this one’s from Gunners Elite uh this is more of a statement the way I see the mantle

Situation which we spoke about last week across every sport across the world we hear we don’t want our Athletics to be robots they need to be more relatable yet as soon as someone speaks up they are told to shut in the wise world in the wise words of Kevin De bruyne let me

Talk let me talk I don’t know if you’ve seen that clip where he’s trying to talk to a referee uh he’s he’s alluding soccer player yeah he’s a gun for man city um yeah I think it’s pretty fair statement you know like you can it’s it’s like we mentioned last

Week every you know all the media platforms and podcast and and radio personalities or whatever it may be they all want the access to the players but when someone sort of speaks outside of what’s uh the norm there always seems to be a bit of backlash whether it’s

Language whether it’s you know speaking on private conversations whatever it may be but we live in a different world now and that’s the beauty of what we do it’s uh that’s the thing I mean it makes it more exactly what he said exactly what he said we’re sick of the athletes after

Games young yeah it was a great game and you know full credit to the boys all that sort of [ __ ] they’re still going to do that to channel 9 cuz they know they can build their own platform y so you’re going to get rubbish interviews from players now the only exciting interview

Lately was TR latrell’s yeah Latrell he swore a little bit cheese gives a pretty good interview cheese does CU he’s a little bit of a character but then viy gives a good interview they get on uh Toby Rudolph the Dolph the Dolph’s all right yeah he’s been very good on I like

Him yeah yeah always have but like they’ll get on a on a a podcast right yeah where they’re more relatable to us former players or wherever they got on Jam one um James Grahams they’re more comfortable because we’ve all bled on the field we’ve all been through

Pre-seasons so when you get all these questions they’re going to really open up to you they’re not going to open up they know the it’s intimidating if you haven’t done an interview before right correct and then Channel 9 goes bang come here we need to talk to you triple

N boom boom there’s microphones everywhere gets a little bit intimidating for for a young kid especially if they’re not media trained I don’t think clubs really Media train their young kids anymore not as much as they should yeah I think definitely I agree with that there should be more

Media training you so when you do see a man so come on there and then gets the he’s just answering a question letting talk that’s what a podcast is he’s not sitting there on Channel 9 the Footy Show or anything like that getting asked those questions because they don’t care

Yeah yeah there’s definitely a different demographic and you’re right like when you as a kid you grow up watching whether it’s Channel 9 KO Fox whatever you do as a kid or even the radio station so once you actually get to that moment it’s like o you get a little bit

Spooked whereas podcast there’s probably not the pressure because we’ve all got listeners and followers and all that sort of stuff but I guess maybe for the young kids now they’re going to grow up watching podcast and it’s probably going to be more of a oh [ __ ] I’d love to do

That one day just like as kids I don’t know you’re probably the same as me ma like I never got interviewed oh you have I told you about my one story where where Joey interviewed me after my last game I got man of the match and it went

Straight to the news cuz the game went too long so I it never actually had but like as a kid I grew up same thing watching all the interviews and going [ __ ] how good with that D you know like not only playing around but getting man

Of the match get man of the match and get to get to chat after a game or whatever you got it every weekend yeah uh but yeah there’s a pressure that comes Matt Utah remember him coming up yeah we didn’t let him talk for like a

Year yeah fuy refused to talk as well fuy pretended that he couldn’t talk English [ __ ] spoke fluent English smart fresh all the time Sunny Bill we we we hit those guys from the media cuz they weren’t ready for all that pressure and sunny bill was sunny Bill man like

He was a God yeah they still like they they didn’t really throw the camera straight at him they just sort of let him learn his craft and how to speak better and all that kind of stuff because you don’t want to get on there you just shoot yourself if you’re not if

You’re not a season vet yeah there’s some guys now like when you watch it they still struggle like 5 to 10 years into their career like don’t want to name names and sort of Point them out but like I watch players and they’re like you can see that it doesn’t like

They’re introverts they might introverts right it’s they even though we grew up with strong personalities and happy having a chat not everyone’s like that so um each to their own all right mate let’s get into the footy nice and easy we got a few topics this week uh what

About that other question the oh yes sorry yep for got the last question as well this is from our UK followers and love the UK boys we got heaps of UK followers so been listening on my way home uh from work since you lad started class podcast I have a question for

Willie do you think Jamie Co would have done well in the NRL Stevie G from hyfax West Yorkshire would make my week if I get a shout out there you go Stevie G Shout Out Barney I’m what well his name is on M Barney M Mr Barne Mr Barney it

Doesn’t matter yeah I think um J JP would have made it over here yeah like he I think he debuted I think maybe late 90s I think he was around that Super League sort of era I think he would have uh he would have nailed it over here

Because he’s tough he was big mobile you know like even um field he would have made it over here there’s been there was a couple of problems over in that era that would have really had a crack in the NL Moos was over here and he was

Playing he was one of the best fors are they exact same era those guys ER basically close to it aren’t they same era but because the money wasn’t that much difference yeah they were just like why would I come over there now you’re looking at like with you’re tripling

Whatever it is over in England here at the moment if you’re one of the best props in the game y you’d be heading over here and I think a lot of these young kids like now you’re probably looking at trying to get to the NRL if you got that cuz they’re big strong

Mobile guys who can play Big minutes like field he could play yeah skill set not that high but bang through the middle big minutes everything like that same as peacock there’s plenty of spots for those sorts of players in the game right now in the NL easily you know what

I mean and even back in the day like it would have been even more suited as well yeah they would have they would have easily trans like they would have come over bang same because moley was doing it yeah even though I thought moley was a lot quicker because he was a big

Bastard too when he was um he’s leg speed used to hit good good with the ball but yeah JP was like that and so was Fielding there was a couple of players there andy Farrell yeah all those guys how [ __ ] big man big strong mobile forwards with a skill set

Andy Farah had a mad skill set a great lock back rower like he’s like I always thought that Kevin sinfield was silky he’s a little bit different he’s a different make he’s more of a would you say he’s like a Travis Norton sort of yeah bit more not not like not a banger

Like um like JP and uh bit more skill based yeah way more skilled like he was a genuine ball playing Lo like a Scot Hill like a Scotty Hill like a Timo who could play six who could play Third he was he was like that um yeah he he would

Have come over here he wouldn’t have been as dominant I think he’d Su probably more this day and age right now not dur in the 2000s but um I think JP fielden uh Andy farell would have been over him and been successful because uh because of moley I’ll just go off what

Moley was like he [ __ ] animal yeah we’ve had some good was he was bad to play against you know what the [ __ ] was going on and a cracking dude and they’re all cracking blogs y suit the lifestyle yeah all right mate let’s get into the foot uh Panthers 34 defeat the Broncos

12 uh I wrote down that the prince put on a display uh in the first 40 minutes to complement his last 20 minutes in the Grand Final against the same team uh different circumstances different lineups but my question to you and I have a question for you for all the

Shows this is what I do for the games moving forward when you have a rivalry through competition in big games yeah does that give you extra motivation so you talked about Adrian moley there always feel like Na’s got a chip on his shoulder uh with teams that he plays in

Big games so obviously he put put on a a clinic against the Broncos in the first half always feel like the last couple of years he’s gone really good against paramat he really steps up against param and for a couple of years there it looked like he really wanted to

Assassinate the Melbourne storm when you played them in the grand that in him hasn’t he he’s got that dog in him he’s got that mentality unassuming doesn’t he he doesn’t come out like he’s always smiling in interviews and you know says the right things you know what I mean

Like then he comes out and carves the [ __ ] out of you it’s weird isn’t it like he’s got that real switch when he goes out you can see what is you can see it in his eyes he just he’s all about business and that on that Thursday night

They were nowhere near his level even though like Reynolds was out pain har Walsh and loose Walsh earlier that was awful but he you still have to defend you know you’re still an NRL you’re still an NRL team yeah you’ve still got to execute sometimes when things go when

Teams lose plays or or the team’s not as strong you can get complacent you can you know you look at a couple of results over the weekend my biggest one is the Sharks I thought the Sharks and not not discrediting the Tigers but once they went up 60 I

Thought they sort of thought you know it’s happening again this is going to be easy we’re going to roll them and it wasn’t the case so that’s why I thought nce performance so was so impressive and um I was listening to um it’s funny you say that I was listening to Matty John

Show last night and they had Campbell Graham and dry arrow on yeah and they asked him and they’re like what’s he like on the field is he like does he Sledge does he talk much they said no like he’s just all business he basically you can see him he gets like every now

And again I think certain games him and Cody were going at it a couple years ago yeah and param I’m telling you he loves playing parah I think he really respects that Rival game that syy he respects the the riv cuz he’s a real student of the game

Like you can tell that he is a footy head through and through so he understands the importance of rivalries and and I know he loves his NFL and NBA as well so you know being a he’s an Eagles fan so he knows about the rivales with the Cowboys Giants and all that

Buys into it he buys into it I think he takes the Paramount ones personally as well and I think it’s good that he does that because everybody follows him yeah right yoi and all the forwards so if you’re seven is built like that you know

He’s going to be on with those big games you’re fish Leota Liam Martin you’re like we got to go at it it’s easy to do the [ __ ] stuff when you know you got him because the Seven’s going to execute every he’s going to kick 4020 kick every

Single goal he’s going to set all the tries up little kicks going to get six to goes like you know how hard that is like to execute everything that he does right at this level right now consistently we consistently get it you try try and get the ball now get a

Repeat set yeah like you know how hard that is it’s as hard as everyone’s like everyone’s trying to put their legs in the way everyone’s trying to trap and scrap put pressure on at the at the seven there’s no protectors now no protectors now for the kicker good point

You what I mean so he’s always has that perfect depth no one gets near him yeah that’s just so smart his footy IQ is very smart he can’t stay in the way anymore like he’s but still no one gets to him yeah he’s so good knows when to

Kick so when you got a halfback like that it’s like Joey in Newcastle you would go to the end of the Earth for that kid yeah and that’s what they do cuz you know physically he’s going to take his licks for you too yep he doesn’t miss tackles he puts his body in

Front of back rolls who are 20 kilos heavier than him leads kick chases when he has to Y he does all those things that great sevens do JT was doing it Joey was doing it that’s what they do and then they get everybody to fall in

Line and go as hard as they can yeah you’re right without saying much good without saying that much JT wasn’t saying that much Joey was a [ __ ] you know get down there cracking the whip at everyone cuz he would lead the way all the time yeah JT was a little bit

Different they’ve all they’re all a little bit different they lead with their actions their actions is the main thing y um you know the the beauty and they’re sort of turning into the Melbourne storm that I I played we played against during our are when you have a

Weakness um Melbourne for a lot of the time for for many years were the best exposing weaknesses now backto back weeks they have had uh a positional change in the opposition and Isaac tungle has been the beneficiary so uh he obviously rents the left Edge for the

Paramed HS last week who were Brave and and that form line looks really good now um absolutely rinsed the left Edge Isa tungle he gets a Payday and he’s almost paying it back in two games straight off the bat but the beauty of penth right

Now is um they would kill him in the right Edge so kevi and give give some credit to to Kevy made a coaching change he moved pakura back into the back row Katon Stags comes from the right to the left Jordan Ricky went to Right Center

And then they made a change to Jordan Ricky spot what did penth do Nath had already done his damage in the in the first half they went all right we’re going to attack you on the left [ __ ] Brian Toto scores two tries in the second half on the left they’re is the

Best center in the game at the moment oh I had that question coming up a little bit later on so with I don’t know like I just I just looked at that game and went where the [ __ ] is this come from well let me throw at some centers because

This is gr that you said this I had it for the next game Tim M I think he as well he’s on the radar one and two form wise for three rounds there’s your two sorry man I’ve got some other names Joseph Manu Steven kryon Herby farnworth

Because kryon and farnworth might be a product of you know they going to teams that ar ar strong Isaac tungle and Katon Stags again the Broncos haven’t started well but at his best he speaking of best Bradman um there are some [ __ ] good centers in the competion and he’s man at the moment

He’s your guy he’s my guy yeah cuz defensively he was nearly my dog of the week from the centers you know I never pick backs yeah that’s how good he was yeah because what he was doing in defense he was chasing down who’ he chase down

AJ um I would do you me Alex because they play Broncos Cobo San Cobo yeah s and Cobo chase him down like easily did was was it off a kick return yeah it was off a kick he like you’d expect s to go all the way he turned Chase was like a

50 m Chase things like that get me I love that sort of [ __ ] and he’s smoking anyone who comes near him man he’s so physical he’s he’s an next back row Joey was talking yeah he played back row coming through the grades and then they moved him out to the centers um it’s

Very rare isn’t it Joey said yeah it’s normally the other way around right um Joey said in the um uh in the call listening I was listening to it on channel N9 and he and he tossed up like he could be a smokey for origin as well because he’s got that

Versatility if you don’t pick him on in the centers on the wing potentially he can play for cuz he’s got that experience playing back row he played back row that’s why he’s a defend that’s why he defends so good he’s a beast man [ __ ] he’s a beast he was good last year

Right he was good he was really good because you got a guy called Critter over the other side Critter was so clutch in big moments over his two years in NRL that you sort of Isaac tungle was his best game was against the Melbourne storm I feel like when a couple of

Players were missing last year and I was like all right he’s ready to go to the next level and then remember he had a sternum injury at the back and he started missing some tackles he had some injury he had some sort of shoulder injury issue and uh apparently

He’s one of those modern day players as well where he’s like the new age and uh like he doesn’t have um what are like he doesn’t have any um medicine and stuff like that what’s that called holistic holistic yeah he’s got a holistic approach to his um his reh re yeah so

He’s not a big um uh when you need an operation go get it kid yeah yeah all that’s all that sort of stuff he apparently there’s like he he should have got got he should have had some surgery but he cuz remember there was a couple of times where he started missing

Tackles crucial tackles right at the back end of the season because he’s [ __ ] and he playing the Grand Final with a busted sternum or something like that yeah really yeah it was like aack should someone will let us know uh we just started to spit ball in there so don’t

Hammer us how about uh how about the rest of the outside backs Dylan Edwards ran for 309 met and uh just in case you thought he needed a little bit of help Brian to chipped him for 263 as well we’re desensitized to how to is and

Dylan Edwards yeah but like 263 I didn’t know he ran that far yeah same same with Dylan though did you watch did you watch that game and go Dylan Edwards and Brian ran for that thinking they might get 150 Max I was the same and I was I started

Going there no way we thought Dylan Edwards ran 39 God he’s a machine God damn that’s crazy those are crazy what a machine 100 post contact meters I think for both of them as well so um there a play there’s a player I like that’s coming Off the Bench who’s

Got that dog in him he’s we you know at the start of the year we we sort of trying to figure out who was going to replace Pennsylania this Liam Henry’s got a bit of dog about him he’s got a bit of Liam Martin about him he wants to

Hit he wants to hurt doesn’t he yes I can tell when he gets on he plays in the middle which is good yeah and he stiffens it right up he does he’s just one of those kids comes off just say if you’re if you’re a vet and you’re

Playing against go [ __ ] who’s Liam Henry you run at him and you find out yeah little bit of footwork at him he doesn’t care times really well he hit a couple of people in the middle that [ __ ] lined him straight up and you know went straight through him he had this real um

Sinister smile on his face there was one time he licked someone and he was like smiling about it and it was just subtle it wasn’t like to him you could tell he was happy with himself he loves it yeah I think he’s a player you’ve got Lindsey

Smith who looks he looked good he looks more suited as a starter but you’ve just got two of the best front rowers probably of his of Our Generation in front of him Lindsey Smith probably looks like a better starter cuz he was really good and then you got Liam Henry

Both those guys coming off the bench together they’re a problem penrith are going to be penth their favorites for a reason to go back to back to back imagine if they win four in a row mate chance man we talked about taylon May a little bit congrats to Tor he just

Resigned another two years at penus so we’ll talk about Terell a little bit after this as well and where that LE him but your thoughts on the hit on Walsh he’s been a little bit like trying to control the narrative of like he should be suspended and all that kind of

[ __ ] cuz Walsh is out for four to six weeks which sucks but this Sport’s a collision sport I agree it ain’t [ __ ] golf or tennis you know like things like this happen pretty sure like he didn’t want to do that to Walsh no he’s trying to be aggressive self for his body he

Was trying to be aggressive like that could have been one of the worst head clashes since Wendell and Mitch Barnett remember not Mitch Barnett Richie Barnett Richie Barnett caved his whole fa in had to get a whole facial reconstru vaguely remember that back in like ’96 97 did Richie Barnett wear like

A mask or something Richie C Richie Barnett that was in his prime right Rich a gun too big Dell’s head concrete yeah um it could have been something like that because he didn’t dip or anything he just was going straight through his face and I was just like kid just like

Dip a little bit yeah he ain’t got no self-preservation and I’m like wow that could have been so ugly I felt sorry for Walsh cuz like he’s just having a he’s trying to make a play didn’t expect that it was the end of the game when that happened Broncos were

Like it was going to be tough for the Broncos regardless once they lose waly they were done that was early wasn’t it it was yeah like the first five minutes of the game first second play yeah and then it was like done yeah so um this is

A rugby league play I agree it’s not a good play not a good play for for Walsh if you had got out of it no one’s talking about it but this is a collision sport this is what happens I’m with you so people uh were bringing up the

Contact that Dela nukan made on Steven kryon A couple of years ago D fuken ended up getting suspended for that I think he believe he got two games L do you know if can you look up D fuken hit on Steven kryon for us and see I know he

Definitely there was a penalty for it same thing and he got put on report I’m pretty sure fukan got a couple of games and I disagreed with that at the time so one was uh in against penth and the other one was for penth and I want to

Stay consistent on both hits it was a rugby league hit it was uh a we had we play a collision Sport and that’s just a part of it sometimes licky is getting uh it just sucks that they’re going to miss the game’s going to miss WS for four to

Six weeks because the kid was on a tear all right here we go L’s chucked it in here I’m just getting it up now so for nukan to fight ban over kryon tackle um so this is this is just yeah the report uh he ended up getting the ban luki got

Two weeks didn’t he I think he got two weeks so there’ probably be another another article made after after the fact um he’s got everything because that was him fighting the the charge but if you end up finding an article where he uh the result of yeah three weeks he got

So ly said he got three weeks for it there you go um well the NRL have cleared it so oh they have cleared it they’ve cleared this one okay sweet so stop [ __ ] winging everyone all right sweet the telegraph were trying I wrote something on their little page said this

Is a collision sport yeah it’s not golf it’s not tennis it’s a [ __ ] man’s game you sign up for that [ __ ] I just it’s a shame that Walsh is out for that long CU I love watching that kid play Y and it could be could it could have been

Way worse for both of these guys man just no self-preservation try to make a play head’s just got in the wrong way that’s what happens sometimes sometimes that’s what happens that’s the worst case scenario how many times you see centers come out of the line like that

Bang he just didn’t dip he just kept going straight he just tried to go straight through him yeah [ __ ] sucks but it is what it is uh does suck it suckss for the Broncos a the Broncos with no Reynolds No Pain house and now ree Walsh

They play the Cowboys next week and the storm after that they could potentially be one from who an SOS out for tpj oh to he could be I know he had his fight on the weekend he won congratulations to shout out to tpj does he have one more

Fight I know he wanted to get that fight out of the way and then he’d assess everything okay so I think he might might have he’s still playing for South Logan he’s playing Queens land cup isn’t he yeah looks good looks fit boxing keeps you boxing’s the best train not be

Surprised if he has a Broncos jersey on in the next couple of weeks okay there we go there we go there’s some OG male potentially there well you know like just just reading what he’s said in the paper I I want to get my f i want to get

My fight out of the way he looks mint he knocked the [ __ ] out of this bloke did you see it yeah I did mad left hook yeah he’s the only like you know he’s you know he’s um he’s left-handed but he fights southpaw so that left hook what

He leads with that’s his strongest hand but it’s his jab hand so no he doesn’t fight South so he doesn’t fight Southpole but he’s left-handed yeah yeah cuz South so he lead yeah so he leads with his left but it’s a lead so that lead Hook is his [ __ ] best punch are

You giving away some information for boxers bang with a ride as well it’s weird it’s like um Oscar De La Hoya was like that as well okay I know that few weird ones yeah that’s dangerous if you your lead is the one that you’re most powerful if you haven’t done your homework

Like the one that he had a fight with bang and the one that he had a fight with before Sunny’s one [ __ ] same left hook how many left hooks did he get him it’s uh he’s he looks you can see just like and we’re no boxing experts

Are but his movements just look like when we watch Boxing like when you watch boxers he is one I think Junior B is another one and obviously even though even though g wasn’t like G’s tough he’s the toughest technically sound or like look like the perfect boxer he was just so [ __ ]

Super tough made for the ring um I thought a really good performance was San Cobo who moved to fullback and if you’re looking at the bris Broncos they’ve signed a whole heap of players moving forward they’ve got him playing in the centers and he looks like

He could slot in and play fullback for a couple of teams easy teams would come knock it’s still impressive but I think they just it’s it’s evened out they’re not going to be as dominant as they were if they had pay har and Reynolds and Walsh like yeah I’m still

Thinking a team a top team like a penth will get you anyway yeah because of the fact that flegler they were missing fish Harris as well yeah it doesn’t help those world class players yeah all right mate the on Friday night the first game The Warriors 18 they get their first win

Of the season they beat the Raiders 10 it was a low-scoring dog fight which we expected from these two teams with right with the knights and the Rabbid O next up are the wi officially back yeah are you convinced with that performance yeah I am h the first 20 was still good they

Went off for a little bit camera comes back and then they they they seal the deal yeah it was good man um God for no Blake’s [ __ ] awesome in yeah that L that shift that they have to the right when they get it proper if they do it

Exactly how they do it yeah it’s Unstoppable because of the fact like have a look how they read they didn’t know fenal bake was going to get the ball no he just runs cuz he’s a big he’s a big Mobile smart human being he knows exactly what lines to run and like and

And a knows exactly who to hit does he have the best footwork for a front rower that we’ve probably ever seen yeah like I’m not saying he’s the best front row of the all time I’m not saying he has the best carry of all time I’m not

Saying he has the best pass of all time but soft late feet his late footwork is dangerous because it goes from shoulder tackles to arm tackles and that’s how he gets his offloads and his line BRS look how thick he is man you know what his thickness and footwork remind me of like

Roy AIT tazi in his prime like and that’s big rap because same thing with with razza you’s had such a good pack you’re a bit different you a front row second row hybrid so I don’t put second row hybrids in it like yeah Raz just just straight up props and and Adam’s

And a prop Tino’s got fairly good footwork as well but um it’s late and it’s through you it’s it goes stra that’s the that’s that’s that’s the difference if someone changes their momentum they step they’ll step to the side he steps straight through you and

He will go straight if if you don’t put a decent hit on him he Ser got an offload or you’ll clean line break know this is how dangerous he is he now has a signature Tri celebration what does he do he gets in and looks around he looks

Around he looks around he scores does he do that all the time he he scores that much down kid he runs through because he gets through on touch like it’s either of Sean Johnson on the he is he is he’s he went sorry I think the week before he

Went he runs through and he just goes nonchalantly where is everyone where is everyone I love it he best he one of the top three in the game well like to be a front row and have a tri celebration is crazy love it and it’s it’s a tri

Celebration before you put it down it’s very humiliating hum if you’re if you’re a middle defend but that shape that they’re getting on that right side Unstoppable it’s block for block for block and then you just got to pick whatever shape whatever cues if someone’s rushing up if someone’s

Sitting back putting his shoulders out you know who they’ll Target mate they’ll targeting Ethan strange yeah so the first couple of weeks still good too yeah so the first couple of weeks and it’s not because he’s spot it’s because he’s an aggressive SE I was going to say

It then but I pulled back see we’re better we’re getting better learning but I love it cuz I I love Ethan strange he’s got some really uh positive things in his game that I like about him he looks like a camber a camber Raider for Life by the way but because he’s so

Aggressive he makes really strong decisions all their shape was around lead Runners inside so so strange goes in and bites heavily on Kurt catwell and then that’s where it sort of left who was playing Left was it Albert h no’s because they still had shape out

The back of it and they get them a little bit later with shape and they don’t quite finish it but it was again targeted around eth so many options off that triple block play yeah yeah variations yeah because every team’s trying to run it now it’s on the other

Side of the post as you break it down right on that inside line yep it’s a lead block so if you’re not checking on the lead block first of all at marker and a you get Fel Blake running through you or or the other props so obviously

The Mi Barnett was running that line and he was out the back that time but you got to you’ve got to account for everybody right because’ got and Wing out the back as well Everyone’s an option so if you’ve got a decent nine he’s going to hit your front guy if you

Don’t if you don’t account for the the lead then out the back and then that other lead and then out the back and then another lead so like just say if your wing jams in yeah sj’s going straight over top yeah like we’ll get to Dylan Brown that’s sort of shape as well

You come in nowhere straight over your head and the Wingers tucked in a little bit and they right out so they think it’s just right on like um who was the Winger there when um uh LX got done on the weekend yep just a little bit he was tucked right in

He was opposite him there and the next minute when the ball’s in the air he’s there no one will expose you better than drinky as well yeah we’ll get to that game uh speaking out the back there was a a change that was made uh due to and

He’s been really good too t picky t t picky it’s been really impressive in the first three games but they needed some spar and when he went off Roger toas she he goes right too M by the way they move him to fullback um apparently chance niichel clar that is really close what

Is wrong with him sorry what’s wrong with when did he injure himself I’m not too sure it was in the preseason he’s been injured for a while now so he didn’t play any of the trials and he still got a couple of weeks left I’ve seen him training with the group on

Their socials a couple of weeks ago really pumping him up before the Melbourne game um if chance isn’t back this week do you think we see uh RTS move back to fullback which they were reluctant to do and Adam pompe comes back in the team or you think they give

This tpy another shot I think tpy isn’t doing he’s he’s not that bad for him he’s all right yeah so you’re happy to keep it as is and wait for chance because of the defensive system they have and how good a Defender RTS is yeah okay he’s so dangerous with the ball as

Well so when he gets when they get that shape out near his way he’s just as dangerous as well of course he’s a gun fullback but you want to develop this young kid to picky as well yes you know don’t don’t lose confidence in him he hasn’t done anything wrong no he hasn’t

He’s just not RTS or niol clock they’re guns so you can still have your strike you can still have him in there yeah you know I don’t think he’s been uh he’s been the fault for any of their games he’s not dropping balls he’s not getting ragged old he’s strong enough he’s doing

The right plays he goes after it he’s after why’d he go off uh hi okay sweet yeah I think he got I believe he got cleared in the end he’s gone off but he’s gone off twice he’s only a small body that’s the thing that’s the

Difference and when you got Roger at the back it’s just a different thicker body coming at you um the triy which sealed the game was if Roger’s not if Roger’s playing centers he just doesn’t score that try CU he in the middle of the field off back that’s what might get him

Out of the team yeah cuz he’s so dangerous Roger uh I’ve just got some stats here for the skipper Taho Harris 80 minutes in the middle 17 for 130 and 50 tackles that’s a proper Captain’s knock isn’t it um Raiders the Raiders nearly went up by 10 when T Tri was

Disallowed I obviously had him anytime TR scorer at $9 and I was Furious but I agree with the decision I don’t like the rule but it’s probably something that you’re going to only see every couple years anyway so I don’t think it was a major

Issue run me by that one again so it was a tap back from Jordan rer Joseph tapy and Roger tasa she oh yes yes yes they connect at the EXA exact same time there was no separation tarps rips it but because he doesn’t have control

It is the rule f it it is the rule it is the rule God I hate these rules yeah you would have hated that rule I did hate the rule but again I under I I believe it was the right decision for the rules and it’s just one of those things that

You like I said I don’t think you’re only going to see it every couple I didn’t even have a bet on it I thought it was a try yeah just because there wasn’t that much separation I thought he just went my ball that’s a rugby league

Try if you’re watching it without any of the bunker and the and the rules then you look at and go that’s rugby league tribe but not to be um I want to give a shout out and to zavier Savage uh although they lost this game and offensively he didn’t do too much his

Tri saer on Adam finel Blake and it’s just another example and we talked about this at the start of the Year U mace sticky has a track record of these younger players who have so much potential they just get a reality check from him so last year it was Xavier

Savage first three games super impressive three years ago he looked like to be the The X Factor it’s all in his he gets put back to reserve that’s why NL coad was let go because of Xavier Savage correct correct uh and then you have guys like Cory horra spent a lot of

Time in New South Wales cup Hudson young Joseph tarpy was dropped for a period there was that changed his whole trajectory to be one of the best props in the game he always seems to get the best out of these guys with a little bit of hay you’re young you coming through

You’ve got big potential but there you go go play a little bit of new I love about him that’s what I love about him cuz he gets the better cuz you know why you want he’s like he’s got that Wayne Bennett sort of um Aura you want to play

Good for him you want to impress don’t want Ricky mad at you because it’s like it’s like your dad yeah Wayne’s like your granddad now sticky still your [ __ ] Angry Dad on the sideline you don’t want to let him down so these young players have such a love for Ricky

Right that’s why he gets the best out of him as I said like Ricky was one of my best coaches I played some of the best football best tests in Origins Underneath Him for those who missed it he was in M’s Mount Rushmore so that’s m

M r just like because I know what he’s like and he’s passionate and he gives everything and it’s personal for him right he’s not dropping you cuz he don’t like you he’s dropping you to teach you a life lesson right you’re not that good you’re not you’re not killing it you’re

Not this you’re not that like he’s T like TP he went down there after Newcastle was killing it for a year y then he fell off a little bit he goes [ __ ] go back to reserve grade he did that to Big Papa y he did that to Big

Papa about 3 or four years ago because our off a little bit and then big papa come back playing for Australian playing for Queensland yeah do you know what I mean so he knows which people to do it to as well the personalities he knows if I do this to

Tap or big papa they’re going to be back and better it says a lot about the belief he has in his because like people talk about culture and and making tough decisions when you actually make tough decisions like this and you take your licks because you’re going to lose games

Like these players that we named are solid players who could potentially lose uh uh lead to losing games but it’s more about the locker room the locker room sees it and goes all right everyone if he’s getting dropped with all the talent that he’s got then everyone’s on notice

Yeah if you drop Big Papa he already played 200 games for that club 20 tests 20 Origins all that kind of stuff and you still do it to Pap no one’s safe yeah yeah it’s it’s it’s easy to say in in practice but when you actually and you’ll have these conversations are it’s

Manto man as well yeah I love that uh Matty T we talked about him he was outstanding one of the best centers in the game which if you missed it we talked about in the preview talking about Isaac tongle Jordi RS again was in everything I called this game here was

My two points I he would have been three points if they won the game he is an absolute Beast I’ve never seen a player outside back Wing up especially as a Winger holds so much energy to one team from Jordy WS yeah whatever he however however hard he goes or whatever they

Sort of go off his level and he’s always on yeah most of the time he’s on he is uh he’s getting better we we talked about dily chair Evans last week at his age doing what he’s doing you’re right an outside back to be getting better when

The speed slows down the strength slows down um and put him at fullback he doesn’t look like he’s super detailed with his preparation he’s got a bit of muts about him too Jordy RS which I love as well but he’s a [ __ ] rugby league player the greatest compliment you can

Give to a player I reckon is he’s a [ __ ] where did MD Timo come from uh where fck they find him was he just rolling around in Campell or they get him from New Zealand yeah it would have been from New Zealand he play for the kiwis already I know that there’s a

Lot of Aussie Bourn kiwis you know what I mean yeah but he must he must at least had a decent stent over there like must at least grown up there because you know how born kiwi like kiwi had you know but grew up here yeah yeah yeah yeah um you

Know how the age difference is that they can play for for origin so he must have been over in New Zealand from at least before 15 so they’ve recruited him yeah yeah they’ve done a good job he uh he is a weapon but it’s not just he’s attack

Defensively he’s no one’s getting around him no no one he the the way he ran over Marcelo Montoya um if if you haven’t seen it no one does that to Montoya Monto is a s Defender he was there to hit him too he was and he got him right

Off the back of the shape so he had to clean shot on him he had yeah and he just goes bang he had to dip a little bit if he dipped yeah he would have got him straight under the ball there’s a common theme Here dip when you defend NL

Plays if you’re watching this dodge ball you got a dip speaking of dip and some of the rabbit players dip out of this game at Alan Stadium The Roosters 48 defeat the rabbit 6 let’s start off with jwh the roosters honor jwh with a clinical performance I found out that

Mitchie Pierce presented his jersey from Connor Watson on radio on Saturday that’s mad uh that’s you know says a lot about jar love get him on here and break some games down yeah let’s do it love him let’s get him on the chat and footy

Um and where is jwh in your list of front rolls of all time where does he where does he right M I know you love him he’s one of your dogs he’s up he like Mount rushmore’s four props right [ __ ] that’s pretty hard to put him on

That he’s top 10 he’s a top 10 prop y if that’s pretty close pretty close to rush in the yeah in the NRL era especially who’s a mount Rush Moore Lazo fck yeah lazo’s there it’s see you got to think in the NRL era would you go back in the 70s 80 let

Let’s just go go back from NRL era let’s go NL 98 CU you look at like cuz if you look at chief he he retired in 2000 so there two only two years so he can’t be in there if you’re talking you’re talking NRL webk petro and even like but

Even Lazo yeah right Lazo retired in 99 yeah so let’s go 98 era onward yeah so you’re probably not putting these guys in there okay so Chief and Chief and Lao of that so you’re talking Pro yep talking webkey yep um who else has retired I think [ __ ] marich O’s up there

Yourself an ogre Raz Jess BR yeah I’ll just wait for them to retire yeah okay um but the work’s already done for those guys like Jesse and and Jay dub yeah they’re not going to play much better football they’re just ending their career Jess Jesse brish is up there yeah um trying to

Think some of the someone else there’ll be names forgetting names but like there’s some absolute animals uh Adrian moley mle’s there but was like me like a hybrid back grow front row um you know so what about the so the hybrids so Sammy Burgess comes into it as a HD

Burgess is there James Graham would be there Friday Sammy Sammy was more back row I reckon yeah I reckon I put Sammy more back row some of those Ruben Wiki Ruben Wiki’s a good shot Ruben Wiki’s [ __ ] and he was so deep in the 90s as

Well to go way and he played to like 2007 or something yeah he’s almost like an outside back through the 90s and then by the time he got in The N he was established as a front r yeah he yeah he was a center in ’94 and he’s bashing

Everyone in the front row I was like can you I remember when I was a young kid coming I was like [ __ ] R rcky just moved in the back row y stay out um yeah I think that’s about it really yeah there’s some the other names will probably forget Nam just sort of

Come on there but there I think I think the Petros and um proos and webis they the sort of they were the front rowers when I was playing and I was sort of coming off the bench before before starting I was starting in the back row

Or front row yeah um yeah big Ogre was good he was [ __ ] good to play Roy was [ __ ] he was great but Jay dub and um Brom they’ll be way up there they’ll be there way up there yeah um Teddy’s back he’s back I tell you I’ve said it I’ve

Said it you said it see the center I mean you see at the start of his trial game yeah at Gosford I’m like Fu he’s going after it you did love it and I love everything about what he’s doing saying all the right things but everyone’s just looking in how he plays

Man yeah you know just like scoring tries he looks like he’s having fun again beating s like that that’s massive the massive that’s unacceptable by the rabitos but also like that’s what you want skipper for the roers but that was a powerful powerful performance Jay dub

At the start like I think he banged out like 26 27 minutes yeah set the tone that was it 8 n when he went off they never going to lose that yeah yeah they would they will never lose in that game too but just eff can’t three and a half [ __ ]

Yeah his efforts his efforts with the ball he just went at it went at it few loose ball recoveries diving on [ __ ] as I said like remember you were talking about high Marsh I’m like the difference is you know High Marsh is not a front rower right he doesn’t has he does he

Can’t control the narrative right he can’t he can’t control the energy he doesn’t do it like JW he’s not getting the first kickoff he’s not doing the first Contact you know what I mean where they look at him he’s their spiritual leader yeah he’s coming off the [ __ ]

Back Fence and he’s leading kick Chasers and then he’s bashing people in defense he’s dve it on loose balls this was all in like 10 or 15 minutes what do you think they’re going to do they’re going to go exactly what he’s doing lindsy Collins come off The Back Fence that

First hit up never seen him run harder he also had better Kettle around him than having rather than having me next to hindy he had [ __ ] Radley and lindsy Collins so yeah hindy was more for his work ethic where whereas uh Jared’s obviously his physicality but that’s but that’s what I’m saying so

When you’re doing these big games like the 300 you’re just going to follow him yeah you can’t you can’t not yeah you know what I’m saying so we did bust our we did bust your our asses for you too and yeah exactly you don’t have the RO

You have the RO team oh I think I got first try um Dom young he looks like a rooster [ __ ] don’t they miss him in newcast Big Time wow big time 170 m mate 12 tackle breaks I didn’t even have 12 carries in a game let alone 12 tackle breaks he

Looks hard when he’s coming across the field just like doing what he wants to do yeah uh then you just got Su then you got tupes y Joey Manu that is a [ __ ] that’s the best back five in the game Joey Manu 6 foot2 is the we mentioned it

Last week he’s the smallest out of all four of those big boys they got a presence man Joy are looking physical and ready to go Joseph Su is gone to another level sandon Smith I was impressed with yep yep very impr but they on the front foot both both proba

The first time I’ve seen him play genuinely a six yeah like starting six like is always coming off the bench playing nine giv you know like I didn’t know he was that good of a six just looked in control yeah he did didn’t look flustered got to his kicks gave the

Ball to the to the to the right people he compliments Sam probably a little bit better than what kez does doesn’t he yeah not a good not a good thing for kez not a good thing but also like if kez plays in that role they still win 48 to6

Anyway I think that was just the nature of the [ __ ] the way the game played out I want to see who they got they got a couple big games probably coming up in the next couple of weeks we’ll see how much they’re tested um and I thought

Cheese was really one of probably his best game yeah I thought that I thought that he looks like he’s adapted a little bit better to the game understanding his role and when he because he doesn’t have sandon Smith coming off the bench who’s gonna take minutes out of him it looked

Like he could build into the game a little bit more because Sam Walker goes down with a h high hia so Conor Watson who good on Conor Watson too I didn’t know he missed out 530 days of footy he didn’t play for that long took one and a half years no

No no he played they said 530 days is that how been out for no never played he hasn’t played in real that must be total of the time that he’s missed over the yearsas missed all season what did he do last year cracked his patella and and

Cracked these but he he’s kneecap he’s been out for that long he did did for him to come back score a couple of tries be involved like that be at the club that he loves local Junior that is nothing but respect I’m so happy for that kid I think he’s Central Coast

Doesn’t matter he’s Junior yeah he got him down when he was a young kid they claim him as a junior that’s a roosters Junior would say if you come through the system yeah yeah I’m so happy for him the rabbito you can’t lose to the roosters like that a man three

Games in is JD is he the favorite for the first coach to be he’s under the pump I don’t even want to say that under the pump why wouldn’t he be you got those players like Cody Walker Latrell cook tall Mur Murray I thought actually I

Said c Murray’s the only one who can hold his head high I thought K mangi was really good was yeah he was one of the best and they’ve got him on the left for some reason when he’s played predominantly right I don’t know what that’s about maybe they’re trying to get

More to the left Edge started yeah the left Edge started to look like it was rolling in the back half but they just couldn’t ice it um like remember when Alex Johnson does the chip over and it’s like David Mo through the middle or something like that do you think um changing halfbacks

Worked no like did he do you know what I mean like is this kid was was he going to do anything different than ilas no like no no there was no difference I don’t know like it’s just um yeah he’d be he’d be he’s under the pump well we

Sure what the answer is there I’m not sure what the answer is cuz look at the team that they’ve got right I don’t look at them like they’re on the same level as the roosters but they’re not 486 not level no they’re better than that that you know what I mean they’re missing

Some midds man K Murray can’t keep this workout for five more years yeah do you know what I’m saying yeah they’re going to run off the bench why apparently he had a bit of a niggly leading into the season but I reckon it was try to get to

Get a reaction s was good was the bench last week as lock yeah and he’s been that his whole career he’s that sort of player just leave him there yeah I just think cook should have started the game they just got blown off the field and that’s coaching you know like that’s coaching

Like why is why is haril coming off why is he starting for big decision you know the players don’t really have a say in that so well so we just talked about how we love what sticky does making those big decisions this is the flip side of

It when it doesn’t work when you make these decisions and put people on notice and it doesn’t work out it’s not easy being a head coach it’s not like even even though we you know we’re we’re critical but look at the look at the characters in that team you need to

Manage those you need to manage them you manage the egos you get the best out of them that’s what coaching is that’s why Wayne Bennett’s the king that’s why Ricky Stuart is that’s why Craig bellam is why Robo is cuz they get people you know what I mean like there’s no

Connection out there is there oh it doesn’t look like there’s any connection I mean like they look like how do I put this it was funny you know like we we talk about the the losses for the Broncos and we sort of give them a pass they are missing draro they are missing

Camp gr Jack W played his first game dropped Lo Elis who should be realistically no disrespect to Dean Hawkins he ain’t it yeah like of I’ve seen enough of him play like lucky ilas is their best option half probably won’t change it after a week but uh I don’t

Think Dean Hawkins he are going to be a really good new South WS cup player and journeyman he could fill in and play a few games but he’s not a starting half the midds are under the most pressure at sou because they got dominated through the middle and every time they get

Dominated through the middle it doesn’t matter how good your backs are you just get on the back foot it’s just too much it’s on the back foot and then the fatigue Factory gets you and then when you got a class team like the roosters they’re going to put it on you

Especially when the foot’s on the throat then they’ll [ __ ] smash it down like they did yeah especially against the rabbits roose’s rabbit’s crazy game yeah yeah um Jack whon he just needs he’s right just needs a he looked he looked a bit tired at the end there and he was

The he was running with some some purpose but there was hardly any really decent shape until it then he needs to get used to that shape because it’s not even though on paper it looks good it’s not really his nature to he runs a t he can run a tough line for you

But Jack also likes a little bit early and then do you see a world where Jack plays six and Cody plays seven yeah for sure because danan Hawkins I don’t think is the longterm answer and if they’re not going to play locky then that could

Be um one of them moves over to the right wouldn’t mind if like Cody just attacks both sides of the rug you know he’s predominantly on the left because but yeah he did get over that side a little bit so when they get those long fours Cody Walker he’d be the guy

To attack right yeah all the time getting the TR behind him I don’t know seems a little bit more balanced yeah bit more dangerous you know like Campell gra comes back in that Center position if back to the end of the year they’re both done then so just just rule them

Out so even if they do come back they ain’t going to be the it’s going to be too late so you just got to make do I don’t know but I I can see a world where where Cody plays seven and then Jack plays six Jack’s are one of the

Best Runners at six but then it weakens the Sooners even it weakens cuz cuz Cody’s so good out the back and squaring up with Latrell on that late sweep yeah that’s their money play I think they bite the bullet and go look we made a

Mistake on ilas put ilas back in I don’t think do that they won’t yeah I agree um all right mate the Bulldogs 32 we were at Ros Hill Race comp boys I woke up first thing we both woke up first thing we’re texting each other we’ll pump to watch this one back

We watch it Saturday morning it’s good to it’s funny to watch a game back when you know the result and you start to see the efforts that it’s it’s a different way of watching the game that I really enjoyed uh the poor record at Belmore has been rectified what’s more

Impressive for you mate 32 points after not scoring that many of the first two rounds or the duck egg the duck egg the duck yeah so they could have easily given up a late try but they didn’t they just fought for the whole way you know

When you when you got a team and you can get them to nil and like six seven minutes ago that’s the talk keeping the zero keeping the zero and they and they did that it was uh good to be to win a game at Belmore just start building that

Bel building that belief right building that belief in the players and knowing when you come to Belmore you’re not going to win you know what I mean that’s what that’s that that’s the sort of attitude that we need to have you come here it’s GNA be a dog fight uh so I

Mentioned it when I was talking about kickel as my dog of the week one I don’t know if it’s just you know sometimes things happens organically and they pick it up or was a a real um emphasis this week so one thing I noticed attacking left provides a couple of things they

Get some nice early shape cuz a lot of teams want to have two shots but sometimes the first shot is it’s set up like it’s a shot but it’s a fake shot so for people that are are watching at home they might have some beautiful shape where it’s they’re coming out to the

Left but really it’s to generate a quick play the ball so then they play short maty Burton or Hutchinson hits kick out he gets a quick play the ball but the shot is always to come back to the right and what that does is it creates because

Kick like I said with the tough carries the 55 post contact that he got he Skittles everyone it’s a quick play of the ball the line doesn’t get set and I think their right side your right side with um Preston who scores the first try and Jacob Carz good to see

Preston get a try yeah I know he’s he’s one of those guys he’s I think he’s An Origin player for sure they run heaps better lines kick out on that they kick out on Critter they probably wanted a little bit earlier ball Preston and and K run a really good downline soz was

[ __ ] on wasn’t he if you if you hit the left and come back two things happen you’ve got your better ho Runners on the right but the most important part I reckon you got mdy Burton on ball so Matty Burton is playing Seven in that role he comes back lead shape and if

You’re a middle and um no disrespect to Drew Hutchinson but he’s not holding up the middles like Matty Burton is if you’re a middle M and Matty Burton’s coming on that first block you have to check it yeah you have to check it because mat Burton comes off

The right or left he’s way more dangerous than what Hutchinson is so he keeps the midd on us and then their spaces out wide and then that’s where they got their Joy that’s where they get their joy and that’s where like I think salmon comes into play so when you do

Break it down with kick out right as I said the inside line then you got the numbers then that about it’s about a 5 meter Gap right you got to fall on the right spot so kiow is his job is to fall on the inside numbers right and four so just

You’re trying to move like someone from that short side or someone from the long side to the short side to try and [ __ ] their numbers up yeah and then like just say if just quickly just quickly he was specifically targeting so for people that don’t know he’s getting inside tab

Boid outside CLE house therefore middle has to go to the short side so they’re trying to get the goid middle so if the middle goes to the short side BTO go short side but if he doesn’t if he flips in the open side then it’ll be tip tip

Sort of out the back and then like trying have a crack at him with um priston or Carz yeah and then and then get back to the post again that’s that’s that’s most teams game plan but you just got to execute it easier said than done

Yeah correct yeah you know so but you know a couple guys KZ had an outstanding game I his best game that he’s played for us ever which is saying something you know he’s played some pretty good games but he was dominant in centers their best game easily as a center yes

Yeah cuz he’s scor those tries man like in the the defensive efforts that he was doing like [ __ ] loved it it was a soft try from the Titans but still he went after yeah if he didn’t have any leg drive or anything like that like he

Just he went after it every single play the fans have been critical of Hut in tough but the reason they’re in the team and the reasons throughout yeah they’ve made errors but they compete like it’s they’re they’re they’re probably underwhelming if you’re a Bulldogs fan longterm they’re not going to be long-term

Answers I think maybe Taff could potentially have more ceiling than what hutchingson has at this point but long term they’re probably not going to be your answers but short term at least they compete all the time and they’re always around the born and when you have controlled possession like they do then

You probably see the best of you know support through the middle on a couple of those tries exe when you’re winning the field position right you can’t I’m not sure what they expect from Taff when they’re just like where losing the field position you just bomb it to him right

And they’re just going to go up they’re trying to compete for the ball do you know what I meanly a 50-50 ball if it’s if it’s if it’s the timings right brimo should I’m saying you know like [ __ ] they blew that didn’t they bad just go yourself um you know but around the

Middle of the route when we’re get in that field position you get a few offloads around there it’s real ad lib football that’s when press I mean that’s when um Taff comes into it yeah because you can just support around the rock you know so um he’s going to want to play

Rabbitz this weekend he’s he’s going to a b Friday it’s a tricky game I like the Bulldogs early in that one um just quickly on the Titans as well uh like after they after they blew that first shot [ __ ] they need feder and Campbell back bad they got no X Factor do they

They looked as I think they’re the if you go off three rounds they’re the worst team in the comp yeah so they’ve only played two games though they’ve only played two games they’ve had a buy and that’s the two games well that’s the worst part about it you had a buy you

Get pumped by who’ they get pumped by in round one dragons yeah that their form line against is losing to the dragons and dogs in that fashion that’s bad signs for thep but even last year when everyone was sort of like going they played a way better brand of football

Was it cuz ffo was there now they’re going to lose Tino yeah they’re done I’m praying for you Tino that’s terrible like ACL devastate Devastation for him um you know he’s a top three prop in the game so you lose that guy he’s their heartbeat he’s their Captain he’s their

Best player and now you lose him I mean I’m I’m just so shattered for him but like how do they get back from that I don’t think they can I think the yeah um seems like a spoon ye for me if you lose Tino f is been he’s going to miss a

Couple of games f is a back rower I think back I know but he’s not a middle so he has to he gets on the back of what Tino and Faker are doing in the middle and then it’s a quick play the ball and you would go short sides he’s with fuzzy

And all this kind of stuff you had brimo at the back and you had all this diversion I don’t see any of that who’s the fullback at the moment kaneno Kenny he is not it I’d be ping Brinson back there straight soon Campbell wasn’t playing Center I mean wasn’t playing

Fullback brimson fullback straight away yeah I can understand the reasoning behind it pH Sammy in the centers or something put someone else on the wing put on the wing jojoa isn’t playing at the moment yeah but is he he’s playing Reserve grade right Reserve yeah so you

Put you put what’s her name you put you pull pull pull in Philip Sammy and you put him there and you put him at full and you put um fullback that’s what I would have done yeah I know I think the reasoning is similar to The Warriors though because they always assumed just

Like like chance niichel clar that Jaden Campbell is going to be back soon you keep Keno Kenny there you keep tpy there because when they come back eventally you want to get brimson used to that Center position like you want to get Roger used to that Center bson can just

Play he’s just a player he doesn’t have to be sitting in the centers for three games or four games and he’s going to become the best center in the you know yeah if it’s 12 games if it’s 16 games IE with you mate I think that might be

The rationale though that it would be the rationale all right mace let’s get into the dragons 24 go down to the Cowboys 46 after being down 18 to4 Cowboys put 42-6 on the dragons after the uh Raymond falar and a knock on oh that [ __ ] them are the the are the

Cowboys the best attacking team in the comp and where does their spine rank in the game as a whole as a whole like individually they’re not the best players at the position but I think they really oh man they really compliment each other top five top three maybe you

Think as a group as a group like Robson origin player y Townsen 250 gamer origin yeah like town he’s not an origin player you Deen origin player no oh sorry I thought you said de no PR prop like just game manager everything like that Premiership winner yeah and like drink’s

Like borderline rep player with that skill set he’s the best passer in the game at fullback oh best some of that ball man he was ridiculous threw a nice one last that was nice that was nice but uh drinky right up there yep yep um that

Was that was a weird game I just thought yeah Cowboys are down dragons they look they looked they looked on right then that that one little thing just momentum switcher man when fatal marinina dropped that ball [ __ ] they just sort of went oh [ __ ] yeah what are we going to do now

Same old dragons but it was 184 I mean was it 184 so that would have been 20 24 to 6 it would have been 24 to 4 244 do you think it’s do you think it’s game over well yeah I thought it was going to be you’d know You’ like yeah we’re on

Then they score that next try it broke him yeah it broke him straight away it broke him not not scoring the try it’s the the resilience was done right they scored TR [ __ ] here we go again that’s what happened that’s feno’s biggest job at the Dragons try and fix that is

Fixing that mentality isn’t it like when you lose for three to four years and s’s trying to do that with the dogs as well it’s a mentality it is a mentality isn’t it how hard is it to break and it’s and as I said like resilience is something

That you need to build and build and go through you don’t coach resilience hey be more resilient [ __ ] how you just got to be in positions like that and just like [ __ ] bite the bullet Ben Hunt needs to be driving that all the time the senior players need to be

Driving it all the time understanding how important that next set of six is or the next couple of sets of six so they don’t score and then you build back into it you know oh yeah we can defend for two or three sets of six you know it’s

Hard to defend the six of goes and everything like that that’s that breaks teams and it broke it broke U it broke the dragons it did Ben Hunt one of the uh sort of one of the better players of his generation experienced origin player Jack de Bellin before he had his um side

Line stint he was well and truly An Origin player and was dominating for New South Wales during that for a couple of years there then you have um Jack bird Premiership winner who’s like where does it come from like there it’s not like they don’t have it’s different to you

Like to Bulldogs where you you’ve got new players that are trying to be leaders at the club where these guys have had these dudes in those positions for a while still not they got a bunch of vets if you look at their total games with with most teams they’re probably winning

They’d be up there yeah they have 150 200 Gamers 300 gamers in Ben Hunt Flanigan 100 I think he’s played 100 games or something like that be near there like fatal in 100 games anyway they were just L yeah Blake Lorry he was good he’s been playing good their

Forwards are going well he getting schooled on the edge Val Holmes like they had had some Joy Val holes he’s been I know he did bounce back but a couple of those tries that they had he was caught in no man’s SL he’s the best he’s one of the best

Defenders in the game at the left Center so he must have wanted to work on his um ball handling from last week but he forgot about his defense this week yeah then he fixed it he had 247 met a try maybe a couple Tri assists but he he

Was error free defensively they had they had two uh the first one where Sloan scores is really bad yeah he just on the lost Ben Hunt yeah and the other one he sort of put pressure on Mario Tangi where the LX scor try as well both of

Them were both of them were fix both his fault and but they’re easily fixable you can’t put to longy Under Pressure like that so drinky has a try and two tries a 4020 but he also has three errors like that’s what you live with when you got a

Guy like drinking your team right yeah I do I don’t mind that yeah um what was these errors were they bad um it depends where you make the errors yeah yeah I’m trying to think of the I’m trying to think of the first there was a couple of

Like Wayward passes there was one that might have been a a tip back uh which is again that’s a six again error I’ll have to uh to watch it back I don’t think they’re overly crazy they’re more trying to make plays that’s the point that’s

The point of it and you don’t mind that you will live yeah as you said you’ll even die by that yeah cuz most of the time he does make the right decision uh three tries from Robson they’ll very soft though through the middle the the we the dragons after getting to a lead

When fleno scored that try like yeah for sure I thought they traveling um Roman for telmar and he hasn’t scored in three years you can [ __ ] tell why oh poor fella we’ been on that many nudie runs the the worst try for the dragons I don’t know if you’ve seen the Chad

Townson try right at the death Chad carried three midds over really yeah I think I must have turned it off by then yeah you might have I thought you might have cuz I knew you were no no I did watch the 46 no I saw that did you see

It right I got to 46 all the things cuz obviously we were at races on Saturday so I had to watch Super Saturday plus all yesterday so I watched five games right yeah um yes so I did I got him to 46 I saw the score yeah that’s so what

He did ree Robson gets out throws it to him he goes into contact I think it was Murdoch Marcilla Slim was there abouts and who was the back ra on the right anyway it was awful awful I saw it it was awful even just you know Murdoch

Milla should have grabbed him and threw him out like Sloan Sloan’s good man but like he needs to really work on his defense he’s been good to better better he’s been way better but I’m just saying like he Communication in defense where he’s where he stands cuz they go they’re

Still coming for him whenever he’s at a especially like guys like drinky and that drinky got exposed the week before yes you know so when you got a good nine like Robson and you got good midds like mlan and then you got the the dog of dogs Ruben Cotter they just nonstop get

At you Ru cot looks to be sweet by the way come off the he looked like he was hobbling with the ankle injury but all midd middles are talking to their nin right all week going who’s who’s the one who’s the one is it Tom trovich do you

Know what I mean is it a big one you know what I mean or is it like can we get out can we and like can we can we get out a rook just say a guy who comes off the bench he’s not that smart with

His Mark detail right he’s going to bite at the nine that’s all you want come out bite at the nine and you’ve got that lead run then you’ve got like a Sloan or someone like that or a drink water you terrorize it’s oneon-one yeah cuz the

Mark the other Mark is going the other way yeah is it’s too late it’s too L especially if you’re flat if you’re flat and fast and you just got a little bit of diversion out the back of the lead runner cuz the lead Runner is just doing

His job then it’s up to the nine to engage that marker and if he does engage you hit the front guy if he doesn’t just pull back and then you go out the back y but um yeah all big guys just think like you’re always looking for that

Opportunity right 10 me out and because they’ve got those fullbacks in the [ __ ] line now all the time just for numbers sake I still not a big believer in that man if you’re not a good Defender you’re a liability yeah you got to keep I’d rather you just be tucked in

Behind a and then follow the ball y don’t be exploited there it depends on the makeup of your football right speaking of fullbacks Tigers got themselves a good one mace 32-6 the Tigers beat the Sharks my question to you with gelvin in only two appearances

Looking like he’s going to be a I don’t want to put too much pressure on him but he looks like a good option Dre bull at fullback Dr L on his way do the tigers obviously AB Cario who is the DG of the week do they have themselves a spine to

Make some noise in 2025 yeah they do because of Cara you know um Caesar Caesar was good I thought I don’t think Caesar will be part of their Best Buy next year but not next year but this year he would do a job I’m sing cu the Sullivan kid’s not he ain’t

It oh yeah sorry I’m talking about 2025 though next year moving forward with Jerome L coming to partner up Lan galin okay and and J bull who looks like he’s getting better and better and you got up car it’s pretty good pretty good spy pretty good spy

100% yep I think because L I think he’s going to be on he’ll be he’ll be super motivated you’d be thinking leaving that club knowing that all the pressure that’s on him I think that he’s a kid who thrives on pressure and [ __ ] you know what I mean he’s like all right

Well we’ll see what happens I’ll get this team I’ll get this team into the back eight in the top eight because Arin they’re going to push for it this year yes and then he’s just going to jump on add that little bit of class and then he

Look like a [ __ ] God yeah he looked the gr you know so I think yeah they they they’re good man they’re right they got good tough forwards I thought CL played one of his more impressive games [ __ ] oui kananu [ __ ] he took a lick off the off the first he got rattled did

But he set he set the tone the intent was noticeable compared to the Raiders game the week before I think he he’s when he’s on I think I think he probably probably have a Blues jersey again this year if he keeps playing like that priority positions playing more than

Eight minutes not only the spine yeah hopefully he plays more than eight priority positions like we said the spine Premier front row potentially Stefano ianu and a player of much potential we’ve been talking about for a couple of years if he kicks on man for no poo then they could have key

Positions locked in he’s an animal he’s 19 is he only 19 he’s 19 let me have a look at that he’s a beast baitman papal big Clen I’m sure they got some other big boys coming off the bench he’s 21 21 I swear he was 18 last

Year L has he been around for a minute he been around a couple years he want debut last year no he made almost have the wrong guy no yeah he’s we we he was going in the starting lineup so the year before he they sprinkled him in at 19

And then he was in and out of the team last year he wasn’t playing he was inconsistent last year so um he was a player that they had high hopes for speaking of High Hopes gelvin I was watching the game Nick niiko hin on the other side same body shaped movement on

The ball body shaped niiko will be furious at that well he’s 18 looks like he never lifted a weight in his life he’s only 18 I know but he’s projecting like got mad legs he’s strong as hell yeah but stalk his R you know you should have seen niiko playing under

20s was he skinny like that oh he was like a stream Bean yeah okay right um so projecting two or three years in height movement the way he sort of Glides around always wants to be could move man it’s very niik hind I like it he’s going

To be good man not the same legs yeah I look at cuz I look at Nick go this strong legs bro and I looked at Gavin I’m like you need some squats bro yeah he’s on but I like I like the way he plays he wants the ball he demands the ball

His first game last week he’s [ __ ] give me the ball give it here he was overing again in this yeah he wants it and I love that he’s only going to get bigger stronger and faster couple more preseason couple more years he’s going to be good yeah I like yes love it the

Uh the championship plays in the team really stood up carel baitman and olum they went after [ __ ] ol went after bro he was he was bashing BLS just yeah our boy I’m glad I’m glad he’d come there with a chip on his shoulder right got remove got swapped from for [ __ ]

Back row or something like didn’t he ton M and SE beat him out yeah I was like okay now now you’re back now he’s fully fth something must have went wrong down there man he lost confidence mate yeah yeah making bad decisions KATU hit just

Sent him [ __ ] I think it was on the yeah you’re right I think that was the the final moment but I think it was sort of on the the writing was on the wall for me sort of just dipped a little bit down there fell off a bit but now he’s

The guy he looks sharp he goes from being out of favorite Melbourne to being the guy in the outside backs at out obviously bull is the the main young up young and up and com he’s going to be testing on that left Edge but he’s only

30 years old too he’s still got about two or three he’s look the same for 10 years yeah he’ll be the same in another 10 years he will look exactly the same when he’s 50 yeah um the Sharks l a great start slip obviously they should

You know could have gone 3 and0 and been with the Cowboys Royce h did his C just about to run onto the field in warm like warm up remember the Super Bowl yeah Green law Dan he’s ailles running on it’s not obviously not as bad as green law but I mean like

Doing your warm up like just you know when you get hit in a pad or whatever you’re trying to do trying to get warm wow that sucked they missed him yeah he’s been good but that is very unlucky man it must have been bad too that just and probably it’s probably Niko’s worst

Game that I’ve seen as well like two two out on the four to begin uh and I think he was sort of just the same thought process that I had with the sharks once they got that first try and then a few errors happened it’s just like they didn’t have that

Steal that they’ve had in the first couple of weeks like they weren’t willing to earn it MH I was more impressed with the Tigers defense same because everyone was just going oh yeah they’re going to have a great attacking team because Benji this and that no no

No that defense yesterday was 326 out of out of this world I think they had nine missed tackles at half time something like that like that’s like I remember when we um at the against the Bulldogs we used to have a goal of 20 20 Miss

Tackles a game okay and usually if you get that you win games that’s good indicator yeah um yeah they their defense was mad well done Tigers well done Tigers yeah I don’t think it’s I think it’s like people going to hammer the Sharks a little bit I think the

Tigers forced him into it yeah sharks will be okay um the Tigers have Incorporated both the west and Bain team songs too after I don’t know if if you seen they were holding paper reading the song So What they’ve done is they sing the Western suburb song to begin with

And then the Bain Tigers take [ __ ] ages do you like that I mind it but like just come up with your own I thought the Tigers already had their own song what were they singing what were they singing in ‘ 05 uh the new song together so they

Created a new song but they wanted to show homage to the ogs of the West oh that’s m and b I think yeah I think it’s I think Chris hon come up with it in Camp so they learned it when they were in Queen doing a camp

But they still hadn’t completely um not everyone had known it so there people seen it now I say it was like us at the Bulldogs last year uh breaking news mate Fox league has announced this was rumored to be the case last night Panthers are the first team to Vegas in

2025 so they should be so I wonder if that thing that changes if uh they win the competition and they have to I know the the world club challenge going show from there to there or they might put the world club challenge in Vegas or

Might have to move it have a twoe break before they have the World Cup challenge few things variables that could come into that so more to yeah well they should be there they’ve been the most dominant team the last four years they deserve it I agree uh the scope cup uh

The eels defeat Manley 2824 Manley looked to be doing it easy 14 nil up but par with a huge win uh the obstruction rule where do you stand on the obstruction rule mace well they’ve been pretty consistent with this which I I pay homage to the refs y but like [ __ ]

There’s no way that guy was getting there no way he took he took a play off and he’s getting rewarded for it yeah that’s the the thing that’s what I look at I’m like you slow that [ __ ] down he knew he was never going to get there and

Even if he was he was coing that on his chest he knew he [ __ ] it but he’s like oh well please go back please go back I got obstructed a little bit rules are rules Jakey should have ran through or stop just don’t stop in the line I agree

Just a lesson to everyone it was beautiful Play Beautiful play I thought the referee in be throughout the game was Peter go had a pretty bad game in my opinion one thing I’m going to do now moving forward I’m going to do reviews on the referee because I want I want to

Do I want to go back and have a look at him we’re going to have some data I thought at 140 he gave a penalty penalty to um to param uh Lan kroer offside they replayed it he wasn’t even offside you’re off the line quick and you’re no

I’m just got I would have said I just got mad line speed shut up well it it felt like it was almost like because the game was going so one way he wanted to even it up even it up a little bit it was a bad decision he also did one to

Ruben Garrick later in the game that wasn’t and there were like three occasions where he gave tackle four tackle five six against when I thought it sort of didn’t go both way so moving forward I’m going to review the obstruction rule I think it’s fine I

Said it a couple of weeks ago it is what it is but like I I agree black and white yeah Jake if he had his moment again he would have kept running and that kid was never going to get him played it well he did cuz he knows he was never going to

Get him slow it down I he didn’t even know they were going to replay he’s [ __ ] I don’t think he even played it well I think he was just that [ __ ] Gass that uh that’s all great play it’s a great play it was nice it was a good play um

Yeah it just sucked do you think that would have ch changed the trajectory of the game uh potentially you never know it’s are that team I said I said I’ll judge param I’ll judge whoever’s going to be the top team of the of the of the

You now I think I think I’m still with penth and penrith and the roosters yeah and then it’s these two okay yep I’m with that’s where I’m at Cowboys they’re up there probably fifth then you got probably storm all right so we’ll go through that later so Blaze Tangi scores a try on

Debut bro the first of all no one does that to Turbo second of all he gets up and kicks the footy like it was nothing like he’s being played as Tri like he’s a 100 game vet and Turbo’s nothing and third he backs it up and Ma I like him par

Have their X Factor yeah I like him he’s taken play ones off Taps I like running at middles love this kid he wants it um he’s got a sick name Blaze he made always to be he’s made for whatever he’s doing yeah and it’s this um to do that

To Turbo Turbo was in a good position bro he got like turbo got there in time mean he’s on his ass going the [ __ ] was that what was that what was that I think he expected to him and go bang get out kid you know what I you know what I love

Looking at reactions of players so I don’t know if you noticed in the background Mitch Moses was the one who gave him the last pass and Dill Brown’s running over and they’re both like looking at each other like holy [ __ ] turb turbo and chz come Sweeping in

Behind and was like what the [ __ ] just happened to Turbo no disrespect if that’s a Sloan if it’s drink water if it’s Ping House even if it’s a little body but if it’s a 6’5 107 kilo Tommy turbo who was in position to pump him

Yeah bro and he had he he had an opportunity to come off his left to come off his right go for the corner or go straight at his chest I was like oh he chose the wrong one I thought he chose the wrong one and I’m like oh Blaze

Tang’s arrived yeah even if it’s one game I’m still going to say he’s going to be the [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah he could be going to be that dude man he could be that play they’re looking for one they’re looking for that outside back but the tough carries and the defensive

The ensive like mind he’s he’s he’s there well it’s in their team this year it’s noticeable this year their physicality um Bryce cartright at first [ __ ] hit the lick on Jos Al oh he’s about it this year bryy cart man so I I had someone uh uh there was someone in

The comments that reached out to us and said let’s start uh is Luke Brooks a contender for origin this year I said first of all don’t put that pressure on Brooks he doesn’t need that he just wants to play Good Foot you I thought he was okay there yesterday’s not

And I want to see a full year of it first for Luke Brooks right like if he has a really good season at manly this year ma do you start to consider him in for 2025 no because you got to start’s he’s nearly 30 well Bryce cartro same

Much would you have said that about Bry forward but yeah but you’re trying to if you’re trying to like you’re trying to build for like years you’re not picking a a 30-year-old like half in the in the new southw team now well you you could argue for a debut right if there’s injuries

And stuff like that that’s it you probably put him in there but not other than that you could argue that chez’s first last five years has been as good as his first five years in the competition Cher do his but like you know you got to give him a full year

Projector my point is that don’t talk about Brooks for entire season let the kid play not even a kid he’s 30 years old now let him play a full season dominate at pany or or play really good footy at Manley with no pressure and then next year if he’s still doing it at

The start of the Season then you can have that conversation like Bryce cartright did last year and has developed into this year bryy has taken his game to a whole new and I just saw just say if if you go back on Brooks right I never looked at Brooks early in

His career and go that’s a origin player okay so I always looked at cart right like that it’s just about reaching his potential his potential and his ceiling is high Brooks has always been he’s he’s a good player man that’s it but like I never looked at him like he’s going to

Play origin one day for some people who was in the conversation though because of [ __ ] Joey yeah he’s an ex Andrew Johns ruined him soon as I said that um the front rotation front row rotation is here to stay mate yeah it is and I thought they getting I thought oh this

This is the team that this is the game that they should have started junior and he comes with that beautiful ball that hidden spin changing hands and then putting in his left arm just popped it to Moses these very underrated people you try and do that at speed try and hit

With your right shoulder put it in your other hand whilst in contact and then just lay it up he made it look easy no it’s [ __ ] hard that’s what I’m saying like it’s just that skill set to to be that big in to move so smoothly and to

Change hands in contact and just lay it up for you there you go son yeah beautiful beautiful to watch and I mean I love watching that big boy play because of the skill set that he has but then he’s just killing It Off the Bench and I’m like [ __ ] he’s probably going to

Play Off the Bench all year cuz it works three waves though so they have the first 20 minutes with Joe and Reggie then he comes on at the 20 minute Mark for Joe so you still get 10 minutes of him and Reggie together who goes off at

The 30 minute Mark and then Reggie comes back on with Joe and shout out to Reggie he was tries to kill everyone too he’s line speed and he’s he’s after it he is totally after it every single game love it shout out as you said 200 games the

Best Reggie tries to do it defensively more so whereas Junior tries to run over you and physically they’re a perfect comination it and even like Big Joe so when you got three dogs like that and even hop good in that you’re trying to make it a competition yeah let’s see who

Can beat like you know what I mean like you see who can put the biggest hit on like that’s what you happens when you’re playing a bunch with a bunch of dogs you just go go at it like you see go at it you should be when we playing see do it Roy

Then I want to do it like Nate miles want to do it sunny Bill Ry it just happens you just want makes it a competition between yourselves you don’t even care about the other team and that’s where they’re heading if they keep going like that big Joe’s like he’s

He’s doing his job at the start but he’s probably going I deserve a start yeah he’s start playing like that man he’s played origin yeah um Manley on the other hand they will look like they’re cruising but they had one set out of 10 so they were sets the one just before

Half time um so off the back of making him the penalty really snowboard out of control param one set one set to 10 just before half time holy [ __ ] and it just completely gassed them um that was a credit to param they’re playing really nice second phase footy which could be a

Tactic against Manley because there were a few like knockdowns and errors off the back of that as well um the referee watch is is what I’m I’m looking for um great signs for Manley Turbo first try outs sprinting Dylan Brown for that try I thought was very noticeable uh cuz

Dylan Brown Ain’t slow mate so turbo actually he doesn’t even look like he moving quick but he wasn’t in four he just like he wasn’t in fourth gear but he was well and truly in third and I haven’t seen him unload in third for a long time

That he was he was on mly manly were there to play they were they were impressive in that first like 2030 then the obstruction [ __ ] and a couple of little things things couple penalties here and there but they still let every ample opportunity to um to win the game

U seven runs for 77 M what a job by param they just well they didn’t have any ball mate and when they got the ball he was so fatigued because they just been defending they’re back five if you can do that to to uatu you can Tain Manley yes I agree and

And I wrote that not to be disrespectful to man Oru I thought it was a great he run if if he runs 160 on you you’re pretty much going to lose done I just think um they’re back five they’re back um Paulo was it Jackson Paul PA and um V

They they need um some big bodies back there they need Sab they need um Miss sa who else can be on the wi Tommy looks like a big body you know like they play two play ones and play twos they just rag doing on that Pao kid yeah Jackson V

Is not you know he’s not a 20 hit up man he’s not he’s not uh he’s not a week in week out in first grader he’s good he’s good backup to have for for certain games but I think if they are going to be a genuine Contender I still think mle

Can be they need Tommy toell and S back yep I agree um last game Knights 14 defeat barely defeat the storm 12 um Nervous Game by both teams but Knights just hold on have Knights solved their spine problem no they look clunkier than they did with with Hastings there I know

They might figure it out they’re lucky pong was on P he was on pong had a good first half yeah he had like if he if he doesn’t play they probably lose to Melbourne with no with no with all their spine out yeah Harry Grant was outstanding happy was outstanding so

Those two players they nearly won him the game they [ __ ] Wishard who’s a I’m not sure what position he is yeah he’s a toiler he’s a Melbourne storm he just runs does player you know so um they missed young and Mau big time what they did last year was unbelievable and

They’re really lacking with it the midds have been disappointing for me Leo Thompson who I thought was really good at the back end of last season playing for the Kiwi playing indigenous all star game he hasn’t really uh started the season I expected and and the Citi

Brothers as well it’s like they’re good but they’re not like I expect great like I I think they’ve got a greatness not greatness that’s I think they’ve got Elite front row potential as a group and I just haven’t seen midds right they got good middles are they just dropping the

Ball too much are they too fatigued are they I don’t know what it is man are they trying to trying to play last year are they the Cowboys of La of 2023 maybe maybe they think it’s all just gonna happen because it happened last year yeah and now they’ve made that

Decision I mean they won 10 11 games with Hastings in there right K just needs to find his feet that’s what it is gamble needs to find his role as well he doesn’t get much touches but he can’t be [ __ ] kicking the ball out in the full no little things like that are

Heartbreakers so when he’s only going to get about 10 touches or something like that to do something he can’t we said it before you can’t make one or two m Stakes no you know what I mean he’s luy I said he’s Lu he had pong there that

Really pulled him in great ball on the line you know what I mean like he’s just he was outstanding for him couple line breaks here and there it a of a dud game to be honest it was awful game it was probably the worst game of the of the

Round Paul yeah love him yeah I like him but you got to you got to support inside now he’s got that hree all time got a free a and he’s not even like and I think that you haven’t taken the rein off him yet right he’s got so much

Talent he’s still finding his feet he’s he’s he’s he’s timing and everything on that left edge with pong around the back and all that kind of stuff he just needs to be running those needs to be getting him one-on ones cuz he’s never one-on-one because they understand how

Big and long and strong he is right yeah it’s up to kin to get him into the game I think yes you know maybe he goes down that short side with that shape that he used to run short long play him a couple times really need to get him involved in

The ball get a front row to lay that post line and then double down in the short one-on one’s but right I need him I need a person like that who’s got who has that skill set needs support inside and out every time he gets the ball and

He had it free it’s late offload with that kid cuz he’s fighting all the way you don’t just give up on plays with him standing pretty much I’m saying like he just needs to fight a little bit more those those offloads will come and because they it was like a very tight

Game he was never going to really offload that ball and you know a couple of loose carries you know all that sort of stuff and they hit it late that [ __ ] your confidence up when you’re an offloader he’s better when they got a lead in than they’re flowing and they

Like if he was playing for um like the eels against Manley yeah and they and they’re promoting footy and he’s fine he he would have suited the eels for sure yeah he would like imagine if sha Lane’s doing damage like that like he’s got the same sort of body type

Very long so Lane gets a lot of one-on ones y yeah but once he gets once he learns learn learns his timing and everything like that and they start building around him on that left Edge yeah Adam Elliot’s a key to that team I thought he was really good he gets a lot

Of the he makes really good decisions last last night I thought he’s one of those guys he’s a bit similar to gamble like he plays with his heart on his sleeve he also makes a few errors but he has a crack so you you love playing with

Those players but when they do make errors you you you see players just go I think I think I said it last year he’s he’s the heart and soul of that team yeah they hold him in the highest regard I’ve seen him ad million I seen him

Before the game he was the one giv the last he’s the one who talks so he watch just because he doesn’t run out first doesn’t mean he’s not that spiritual leader he’s that guy that they look at and they go off him you know like I think he’s really balanced his game out

With KNN when to pass the timing of the pass and knowing when to run yeah he’s a ball Runner he’s better he’s a ball Runner he does get a bit sometimes he makes his when he’s trying to ball play he suffers a little bit when the two props aren’t smashing the middle up

That’s what it’s Leo Thompson and SCI fiti need to start busting some tackles quick play the balls then you get off the back of that on paper those three are very intimidating High they’ve got a a very high ceiling in this competition ceing forward pack is star started bro they

Just haven’t connected well yet there’s something there I’m not giving up on the kns no no no way but if they keep losing games or just you know they lost their first two games they could have easily lost this game as well yeah they needed the win bad H storm I’m not worried

About storm no Hughes no monster are you are you concerned about monster all the reports are that money could be spent in an extended period of time really yeah the AUST well no it oo pubers is it yeah I think it’s the oo pu yeah and that’s

Very tricky so they thought it was growing originally but I think it’s osto pu a lot of AFL players get that so he get he’d get some good um advice down there that’s a good shot anyway yep good footy good footy quality football love it boys love it except for the last game

That was awful you killed me

50 Comments

  1. 1:25:17 Parra fan here obstruction call was tough but Tommy's pass was 2 metres forward and DCE knocks on the play before Garrick scores so calls both ways

  2. Looking at Cody end of last year & this year, he is frustrated at everything & losing his shit. Time for Cody to go to NSW Cup & Ilias back in with Wighton replacing Cody?
    Kikau was my dog of the week too
    Looking at that game, I think Hynes is scared of hard contact. Flinched a few times & didn't even contest the ball a couple of times.
    Blaize's try knocking Turbo on his arse was my highlight of the week
    As a Cowboy, watching Manly & Melbourne lose had me on the edge of my seat all afternoon, so we could be the only team at 3 & 0

  3. @ Horo I’m lovjng your respect for your old mob parra! Think BA has right combos as in playing Jnr from the bench !

  4. The difference between the finnucane hit and may was that taylan tried to pull out of the tackle so as not to give away a penalty for a late hit becasue walsh passed a split second before contact and taylan tried to pull out and brace. Dale ran straight at critta had all the time in the world to aim lower and no reason to go that high and still hit him high. Those tackles are not the same. the results may be simmilar but scenarios are entirely different.

  5. The croker and Garrick offside calls scope where prety obvious calls that the ref was trying to swing the game for parra .. garricks in particular he was a metre on side and that call stoped manlys comback and out the nail in the coffin

  6. Tago is solid, but not the best – the last 2 weeks he’s been playing up against back rowers

  7. Hey boys, my bunnies were depressing as against the chooks and I agree with your thoughts about our middles we seem to get rolled from the first set and struggled to make any real inroads or swing momentum back our way at all. One big loss that I reckon isn’t being spoken about enough yet as he hasn’t played for the drags yet this season is us losing Hame Sele off the pine. He brought punch in d, good leg speed and late footwork at the line to get quick ptb’s for cookie and cam to advantage of. What do you both see us trying to do differently against the dogs? Will be a huge game considering the dogs big win and the rivalry on Good Friday, thanks boys love the show 💙

  8. Listen carefully guys I believe that was a try for Manly 💯 sure but ‘Got away with that one’: Manly gifted try after ‘controversial’ DCE knock-on missed as well the Referee had a bad calls for both sides

  9. Cleary has a very good team around him, his game is heavily influenced by that fact. World league challenge is an example of that.

  10. I hate bringing up the officials because it feels like its a weekly thing but seriously whats the difference between CHT getting his legs taken out and Papi getting his taken out. Photo shots have showed both leo Thomson and rapana had eyes on the footy. I feel the nrl protects big name players, but why cant they treat every pkayer the same.

  11. Sorry boys but don't fucking stick up for taylan may then try to show sympathy for Walsh should of at least been 3 weeks suspension for may

  12. quick couple of questions for the boys.
    1: where did og get that grizzlies jumper coz i want it and if i get it i’m gonna say og copied 😂
    2. if yous weren’t a poddy about nrl what would yous wanna be a poddy about
    3. with all the bad calls from the bunker and sometimes bad refereeing what is a rule change you would implement to make the game better or stop all the bad calls

  13. NRL massive failure in Vegas
    Imagine what that money would have done for grassroots footy, junior development or reviving the game in the country

    Absolute disgrace, shame on the NRL

  14. You blokes are out of touch. This "didn't mean it" garbage is bullshit. May should've been sent and got 2+ weeks minimum. Mason thinking "it's a man's game" moron.

  15. Hey Guys wanted to know your thoughts on creating a match review team for after games so that refs during games don’t have to worry about reporting players and solely focus on sin bins and send offs? Keep up the great work legends 🤙🏻

  16. Matt Scott. Thumper was a mainstay in the successful QLD and AUS sides for years. One of the best

  17. Penrith came out to make a statement in that Bronco's game and they did. And Cleary led from the front. Again. What a champ. Anyone who was in any doubt after the GF should be silent.

  18. Hey lads, nfl casual here but know you both are big on it and it has obvious relevance to league. The Nfl brought in rules to crack down on hip drops ala the nrl a few years back, I saw it’s been getting blasted in the media by ex players so just curious to hear your thoughts ✌🏻

  19. Alright lads.
    Just listened to question about jp and talking about moz.
    Mase, what would your preparation be Monday to Friday knowing you was coming up against an 'enforcer' like Morley for example knowing they would be doing homework on you as you was one of the most aggressive forwards of your time playing.
    Top podcast lads big love

  20. Big Willie is the voice we the people love in the game. He stands up for the players and keeps it real with who he is. Has a very balanced perspective and good insight too. Love how he shoves it into the dickhead journos too

  21. Need a longer segment for the talk on refs calls and penalties,
    Maybe they will watch this video and pick up on calls and not send em to the bunker..

  22. Hey Guys with how poor the dragons looked last week how long does it take for the noise to start again that Ben Hunt wants out? A team like the Dolphins would be lining up to pick up a player like that

  23. Tohu Harris – most underrated player in comp? Never gets recognised and is basically no worse than Carrigan Murray etc. He may offer more since he plays at first receiver in the opp 20

  24. Timoko was a union player in NZ, thats how they scouted him like they have a million NRL players over the years

  25. Hey guys, love the podcast, keep growing, its the best podcast around.

    Huge Tigers fan here and that game against Sharks was the best i have felt about them for a long time. The big thing was the effort was there and it was great to see.

    Question, you guys talked about 2025 and their spine when Jarome arrives.

    If Galvin a lock for halves to partner Luai. Which one plays 7?

    Is it too much for Galvin being so young to step into that role?

    Or do you think Jarome could transition to that game manager role and still be as dangerous as he is at the Riff now? Or would he lose some of his X factor playing 7?

  26. Storm without 3 of our key players away from home still kept a decent side to a low score, can't wait for Munster, Hughes and NAS to come back.

  27. love the insights you guys give on NRL players as you've been there and done it. but respectfully do not review the refs, given to my knowledge you guys don't have any reffing experience or have an idea what it takes to ref an NRL game. Also audiences don't have their comms + what input they receive from their MDC, touchies, bunker etc

  28. Dylan Edward is a workhorse no doubt and his work in defence is outstanding, but his run metre stats are padded.

    His stats are greatly aided by the Panthers having the best defence in the league.

    Teams are kicking well within their own half and because of the pressure on the kickers, more often than not these kicks are going straight down his throat.

    Then he runs 20-25m untouched before the kick chase gets to him. By the end of the set the panthers are deep in there opposing half.

    And Cleary just kicks to the corner or puts up a towering bomb, and the opposing team is bringing it out of their own 10m zone. And again teams are kicking from deep in their own half.

    Kick return metres is the most overrated stat in the game when it comes to pre contact metres.

  29. Strong start to the season fellas levels defi levelling up. 2 questions.

    1. Everyone at full strength head to head does anyone stop Penrith this year? I just can't see it they seem like they still have another level to go.

    2. There's a lot of English coaches in the NRL at the moment. In Brian McDermott the knights have the most successful coach of the SL era as their assistant to Adsm O'Brien he was credited by a lot of the Knights players last season as a major reason for their run. Do you see a world where he'd get a shot at head coach if it went wrong for O'Brien?

  30. Mase giving Wiki his respect was awesome.Luv Mase just straight truth and honesty about the game.

  31. The implementation of Category One head knocks in the NRL leaves me somewhat baffled. Logically, if a player suffers a concussion severe enough to warrant immediate removal from play, it stands to reason they would not pass the Head Injury Assessment (HIA) protocol, right? The incident with Sam Walker, while not altering the match's result, brings to light a critical issue. Consider a hypothetical but conceivable situation where a pivotal player, say Nathan Cleary, is subject to a Category One decision in the climax of a Grand Final, all while showing no real signs of concussion. This seems to introduce an unnecessary element of risk, suggesting a need for a more nuanced approach to safeguarding player welfare without compromising the game's competitive fairness.

    P.S. Willie Mason, at just 15, I'm deeply engrossed in NRL analysis/ stories over playing the game it self. If I ever pen a story that misses the mark, should I brace myself for your critique you can be a bit scary sometimes I admire your insights greatly both of yours up the wahs!

  32. I’m a Melbourne supporter I turned the game off 20 into the second half not because Melbourne were losing I expected that with half the spine out but because the knight played so horribly in a game they should of won 13+

  33. Brothers. Why dose the scrum exist in the game when it’s a no contest?

    Could we see the scrum mechanics change like the short drop kick restarts? Been watching old games on Kayo the scrums back then were an actual battle. Thoughts? Up up the Wahz

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