Todd McShay on the Second Best QB in This Year’s Draft | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

Ryen Russillo is joined by Todd McShay to discuss the quarterbacks in this year’s draft that will likely be taken after Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye, as well as who among them is higher as a prospect.

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So let’s transition that into number two with Washington you have Daniels there over Drake may do you think this is ultimately how this all plays out based on everything you’ve talked like you just basically hit on it that it sounds like more teams are debating Jaden and

Caleb more than Drake which is a massive departure from where we were at for the months right after the regular season of the college football season was over yeah again it it started with me going back and studying the tape and I love Drake man we can get into him but there

Are inconsistencies in his tape that you don’t see it in Jaden’s and and I to me like when I’m talking to people in the league like I want to have when I make those conversations I want to have done my tape assessment so I can have a conversation that is two-sided and it’s

Not like hey what do you think right because I’m not going to get information from people and they’re not going to respect me this is over years this isn’t just just this year they’re not going to respect me enough to like actually talk ball if I don’t have an opinion and I’ve

Had plenty of conversations with guys where we completely disagree you know and and they wind up being right sometimes I you know it doesn’t matter but you better be educated you better be able to talk about that throw in the third quarter against UCLA or whatever

It is right and so it started with me going back season’s over really studying the tape and being like wait there like when I just independently like take a step back not all the hype and not not all the noise there’s not a big difference from

The tape in 2023 now I think the 2022 tape for Caleb is better than any of these quarterbacks what they put together in any other year but this past year I didn’t see a big difference I’m not saying they’re the same exact player by any stretch but there’s a lot of

Similarities the ability to create the ability to to you know be a running threat um and the ability off schedu throws so I think that they’re very close and then I talk to guys in the league that I respect and trust and they’re saying the same thing and so to

Me like what else do I need I I I trust my evaluation I trust the people in the league that I talk to every year that are typically spoton with with what’s going to happen and it’s it’s Caleb one but it’s Daniels 1A and then there’s almost like another tier where you get

Into Drake May and and even though he’s in that next tier he’s a quarterback so he’s probably goingon to go three to New England and then JJ McCarthy’s in that fourth tier still a quarterback you’d like to get him late first early second he’s not going to last that long so

Maybe he goes in the top 10 so we can get to all that but my point is Jaden I go back to a conversation I had last year with Brian Kelly before I was on working the sideline doing the game as as an analyst and I talked to Brian

Kelly and I was asking him just about Jaden and he came he kind of came up to me and really wanted to talk more than we talked in the meeting with all the other people there and he’s like listen I just he’s like you I you and I have

Had these conversations going back to Notre Dame and all the other quarterbacks like I I need you to understand this like he can throw with anticipation even though you’re not seeing that on tape he can make accurate throws in those situations he can go through progressions even though maybe

You don’t see that on tape because it feels like he’s locking on the thing that we’re trying to unlock in him is to trust himself he trusts himself at times in practice because there’s not a there’s not a consequence to it and he said the worst thing it drives me

Fraking crazy right now because everyone in the media is like oh he’s gone five games Jaden hasn’t thrown an interception if you remember that was all the talk Jaden no interceptions five games so they’re going to play Tennessee that g that day and they get beat bad

But his thing was I want him to throw a pick he goes it sounds crazy but I want him to throw a pick so it’s like all right we got that done with it’s not the end of the world come out and just like trust your eyes get the ball out before

The receiver breaks he goes right now he’s stuck on wanting to see that receiver open because then he knows it’s the safe move I don’t want him to be safe he goes the second we unlock that in him he’s gonna take off and in that game the first three throws were like

Deep outs where the ball had to come out and basically I could tell Brian told him like don’t even go to your second read this is going to be your read it’s one-on-one make the throw on time whatever happens happens and he did and you started a seed in that game even

Though they struggled but from that point on there was a confidence in him and we saw him just absolutely take off and truly like one of the most remarkable twoy year turnarounds in tape is Jaden Daniels 2022 2023 from what we had seen from him before yeah look I

Think burrow is the most recent example somebody that’s gonna go this High where his first year LS like all right you know pretty good there yeah you know and then you’re like wait who what is what is this very similar and they both had great receivers and you if you were

Doubt were doubting him you’re saying well it’s just one year of greatness it was he’s got great receivers that he’s throwing to but honestly at the end of when you really study it independently of everything else they just played it an extraordinary extraordinarily high level and we saw burrow the number one

Overall pick and the Bengals would do that a 100 out of a 100 times again right because part of it when I looked at some of the Drake May stuff again and look he had TZ Walker for more of the Season than he didn’t um who’s who’s a

Real Difference Maker but then when you think of neighbors who’s going to be a top five top six pick and Thomas who throughout the season a first round pick too yeah yeah 17 touchdowns you’re like wait is this guy better than the other guy you know look and I I think there’s

Probably an argument that neighbors is more a complete receiver and that’s why the the mocks have him going probably 20 slots higher than his his teammate but you’re right I mean Jaden was basically perfect and maybe it’d be looked at a little bit differently if the defense

Had just been average enough all right so we’ve got May will New England do you think belich not being there means they’ll prioritize a receiver to put with May if May goes third because I just especially when you have the rookie scale quarterback contract and then not

Getting him a weapon the way you know San Francisco’s done a pretty good job with with obviously Debo and it’s a little different um with pie but like AJ Brown’s a great example you draft Devonte Smith for Jaylen Herz you make the trade for AJ Brown and like now the

World starts to open up and it’s just an easier job when you have one of those say 10 to 12 difference makers you know I’m not calling AJ like a top five guy but to think that New England I would say post bellich like that would be the

Number one priority if you’re looking at what’s gone wrong with the development of the quarterbacks post Brady yeah and and throughout Brady’s career it was about finding receivers that fit Brady and I’m not don’t want to bog everyone down but like option routes under like they needed smarter than they needed

Smart was more important than talent and for most of the receiver evaluations because if Brady like if maybe one time it’s a mistake but the second time that you’re not in the place you’re supposed to be because everything more so than any offense I can remember watching and

Evaluating the NFL like it was so much about we got if they do this we’re going to we’re going to outcut if they do this in cut if they if they bring up like you got go vertical what so every route would had like three options based off

Of what the defense was doing and if you made if you made a mistake once like all right let’s see you started making that mistake two three four times Brady’s gonna quit on you and that’s what happened they brought in a lot of guys in free agency they they tried drafting

Some guys in the first second third round and a lot of those guys didn’t work so lesser talented receivers who were had better football Acumen worked for him and then I think they kind of got stuck in that well we can get receivers anywhere right like the Steelers always get their receivers in

The second round and other teams like third fourth yeah but they’re good at it they’re good at it Steelers are good at it but also but you don’t have Brady anymore and even if his name wasn’t Brady it’s like not what we’re doing anymore we don’t have a quarterback who

Operates at that level mentally so it didn’t work so I’m fascinated to see New England like I think they’re going to take a quarterback I think in this scenario Drake Mays the pick at number three but I’m interested to see like what’s the emphasis now on speed like to

Me watch watching the Patriots the lack of speed in the back seven right defensively the lack of speed at at wide receiver and Playmakers and difference makers is what they’ve been missing for the last few years they didn’t have Brady who was making up for all those

Sins he was masking all the problems and so they they kind of from a Personnel standpoint I think they they shifted so much one way that they struggled to come back the other way when they needed to and now now they’ve got kind of a fresh start from a Personnel Department you

Know standpoint I’m interested to see what they do because I I’m with you I I think it’s quarterback verse and then maybe second round like Ricky persol uh from from Florida who ran in the four fours uh lad makoni who ran faster you know ran really fast we knew he was fast

But is explosive in his athletic movements like I think they get in a deep wide receiver group I this is an opportunity to not only solve quarterback but to get him a young guy they can grow old together With