The New England Patriots hold the 3rd overall pick entering the 2024 NFL Draft. Colin Cowherd and Eric Mangini discuss who the Patriots should pick at their spot or if they should trade down, and if Caleb Williams can lead the Chicago Bears to the playoffs. Plus, if the New York Jets have done enough to help Aaron Rodgers.

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Uh and with that Eric Mangini who of course got a lot of rings in New England is now joining us so I was we yesterday we talked about something in the draft there’s two ways to go about it if you’re New England fix this roster trade down because any quarterback that comes

In is going to get overwhelmed the third quarterback in this draft is not going to be Josh Allen Mahomes where you can win with average players trade down fix your roster you’re slow offensively you don’t have Playmakers defensively then go to the free agent Market next year with a

Quarterback or go draft a quarterback but nobody’s going to win with this lack of talent offensively and your third quarterback Jaden Daniels little spindly cold weather or just draft a quarterback get it solved play jacobe brassette most of the Year be awful and just cross your fingers at Works do they necessarily in

Your opinion have to draft a quarterback with that third pick unless you have a real conviction at that third pick I I don’t think you you draft a guy I think you try to trade back and maybe get someone someone later because the with with those top five

Picks it’s not just it’s the pressure that comes with it it’s the pressure to start away right away it’s the pressure to perform right away it it it’s a lot for a young guy and unless you really believe that guy can come in there and do that at at a reasonable enough level

Then then it doesn’t make sense and and should go ahead and trade back and try to continue to build the team I just don’t know if if New England the fanbase the owner if they’re going to be patient enough to to do that that was that was sort of a trademark of

Bill’s philosophy I I don’t know if this is going to be a trademark or if they have the patience to do that and look if Jaden Daniels is there to me at three I would take Jaden Daniels I I I really like them okay you like Jaden Daniels at

Three that that’s the guy you really like I I really like him okay yeah I I mean I know that Drake May has has bumped up and and but I you know I watched Jaden Daniels and I liked him more in the first half against Alabama

Than I did in the three games I watched you know with with Drake may I just think that made a a ton of wow plays he’s 6’4 I know he’s 210 so he’s a little bit light but but he’s gonna grow into that body and then his ability when

He pulls the ball down I know he hasn’t run a 40 but it’s fast whatever that number is it’s it’s fast uh depending on what type of guy he is that that’s a big part of it but from a talent perspective I thought he was outstanding So Yesterday DraftKings of the day before

Came out with over under numbers and I was a little taken back the Bears were at eight and a half and I think a lot of it is Ryan poles has had a very good six to eight months the Keenan Allen DeAndre Swift can catch Gerald Everett they’ve

Got two of everything running backs tight ends I do think polls a former offensive lineman I think the offensive line left tackle I think I think they have their tackles figured out and do you think 8 and 1 half nine wins as ambitious or do you think if you start

Looking at this Personnel Caleb can win in this division yeah I think the Bears I think the Bears are one of the most exciting teams going into next season now Caleb comes in he’s he’s a guy that is so much further ahead than where Justin Fields

Was even three years into the league as a as a ER and he can make wild plays he can make Dynamic plays the thing with him is trying to reel him in a little bit to not make a bunch of mistakes but you’ve got you know Kanan Allen DJ Moore

Cole KT DeAndre Swift there’s is a ton of talent and then I thought with with Eber flut taking over the defense later in the year they played so much better defensively than they did at the beginning of the season this team this team should be in the mix depending

Again on how much Caleb can can control sort of his abil not his ability but his desire to constantly want to make plays I think that’s going to have to be reeled in a little bit so that he’s not making a bunch of wild plays for the

Other team yeah the um I said when you get an old quarterback there is a pretty clear indication Stafford to the Rams the Rams had a good offensive line Brady to the Bucks they drafted Tristan wors they had a good offensive line um when when Aaron went to the Jets an older

Quarterback they have a bad offensive line by the way Kirk Cousins going to Atlanta makes sense they have a very good offensive line so the Jets have now tried to it’s older players but it’s from Baltimore and Dallas those have been very good high-end offensive lines

I think there’s a real clear line old quarterback Russell Wilson and Denver’s first year not a good offensive line first thing Shawn Payton did is fix that I don’t see these moves as some magic Elixir to Aaron I think they’ll be better but Tyron Smith’s going to give

You about 13 games you’re kind of Takeaway on what they’ve done this off season up front to protect Aaron well in the opening press conference the jams opening press conference in New York he talked about the need to fix the offensive line so that’s what five years ago yeah so here

We are five years later and it’s not fixed so they they put money into the offensive line in the past they put draft picks into the offensive line it’s a question of whether or not they’ve got the right guys and how they’ve changed their process of evaluating who fits and

Who works because the process they’ve had up to this point hasn’t been very good at all and and then you take guys that have been dinged up whe you know with Tyron Smith and even Mike Williams he’s coming off an injury the Jets are the Jets are are confusing because there

Are some positive things and there are some exciting things from a fan perspective that for them but then the only comes out the other day and says we may keep Zack Zack Wilson and and Colin we could see a situation if they keep Zack where he plays again next season I

I think they’ll be rioting in the streets of New York if if that’s the case yeah I mean but I I it was it blew me away that they were even talking about that being a possibility and and if you’re a Jets fan you got to be a

Little bit taken back by that and why why would you do it so you know Jim Harbaugh well um I San Francisco was a mess and then immediately they’re in the NFC Championship Michigan was a mess and then they’re immediately 10 and three Jim is so unique he’s he’s talking about

Sleeping in a motor coach he’s like ah it’s perfect I can go back there and sit back there and think and it’s like I just think this whole JJ McCarthy thing where he’s like that’s the best quarterback in college well he wants a quarterback Derby at the top so he can

Move down at five and get more picks I know what Jim wants to do and I do think he got this is a really good job for a lot of reasons he’s got his quarterback left tackle and two Edge rushers those are really crucial things and hard

Things to find in the draft what to you is real let’s start with two questions on Jim first of all what is realistic first year with the Chargers what’s realistic well Jim comes in and and with all the underachieving that’s gone on there for for multiple years he instantly changes that equation okay

It’s it’s not only does he change it by virtue of he’s won everywhere he’s been but the the mindset the approach that he has it’s it’s completely sincere he sincerely believes that they can win they can win right now the guys that he has can not only play really well but

Can play better uh in in his system and and that permeates throughout the organization and and there’s a um there’s a a approach that he has that that’s so uh sincere and unique it it resonates different in a locker room than other guys that I’ve been around

And him living in RV that’s that’s not because he’s trying to get any kind of headline or or or any kind of CR that’s just just Jim and and Jim is a he’s about football and and and that’s all he’s about yeah you you it’s interesting it’s not play calling

It’s culture it’s not scheme I mean when you when you look at Harbaugh’s schemes were you Blown Away by them Well here here’s what I was blown away by and then I’ve been with Bill parcel I’ve been with Bill bellich I’ve been with with great head coaches I was

Lucky that way and Jim used to say and and I’ve shared this with you before we’re the San Francisco 49ers we can do whatever we want and and what that meant is that he was not going to be bound by what the rest of the league was doing he

Was not going to be bound by what everybody in the media thought that that we should do he that that’s not how it worked in that building if you wanted to try something different that nobody had had really done before or you know maybe was something new you pulled out of out

Of a college program he was open to that and it’s very rare for someone with as much success as he’s had to be so open to new ideas and having that openness gives you a chance to grow and gives you a natural competitive Advantage because you’re not it’s not group think anymore

Which permeates most of the NFL so um you know you know this well because of New England everybody wants a Star Quarterback the problem being for the locker room once you get one everybody becomes much less valuable the Chiefs are moving off great players it’s like yeah they win another Super Bowl you

Were in you may not have known it initially with Tom but that’s what it became they moved off moss and you’re like yeah we’re fine I mean Kansas City is starting to feel like New England where they’ve got the egos haven’t permeated the building quite yet there’s not a

Power struggle in the building quite yet that stuff happens generally NBA NFL now everybody’s grabbing power but it does it when you look at them do you see a little bit of the New England thing where it’s like connected owner Personnel moves don’t always hit the quarterback and the coach so overcome

Them does it feel a little New England to you with more offensive flare yeah absolutely and and even more so after after Patrick got paid because now you do have to make the tough decisions as to who you’re going to keep who you’re going to move on from and and

Those players that deserve a big contract because they’ve contributed significantly to their to your success you you can’t keep them all but you’ve got the most important player who’s going to make everybody else around him so much better makes the old line better he makes the running game better because

There’s only seven in the Box receivers that would be marginal on other teams can can can grow and develop and and make plays and I know you said it it makes them less valuable but but to some degree Colin it makes them more valuable in the open market because other teams

Want to get some of that Super Bowl um experience so if you go get a guy from Kansas City you know that you’ve got a guy that knows how to win you know that you’ve got a guy that’s played under under pressure so so it it does hurt you

In terms of your ability to St there but I do think it helps you in the open market go get a bigger contract than you necessarily would have because you’re from such a winning franchise yeah by the way Justin Fields Russell Wilson How’s that gonna work for you what do

You make of that I love that I I love that you you’re spending $5 million total for Justin fields and Russell Wilson that that’s what that’s what Joe Flaco’s getting I think is is $5 million so you get a guy and and look we don’t know where Russell’s going to be but

He’s performed at a high level in the past and so if you get some semblance of that okay great and then then you’ve got whatever Justin Fields can potentially be you get a chance to look at that he gets to work with with Russell Wilson he gets another year to develop you can

Platoon him in and play him meaningful snaps which is a huge problem for every defense they play because you got to prepare for two guys I just think you get two guys like that for a total of $5 million versus what other people are playing pay paying it’s it’s huge value

And now you can take that money and go spend in other areas and try to figure out your longer term you know situation if if Justin Fields isn’t the answer Eric manang just got back from a trip to a place I want to go in my life he went

Over to Japan with his with his kids it’s very EXC he told me it’s amazing over there I’ve tried to talk my wife I’ve tried to talk my wife into it my son would go in a second he loves that stuff you you want to go I’ll I’ll join

You I I know like three went to Japan this year he he does this all the time Eric he just says thing doesn’t consider his family he’s like I’ll go to Japan for a week you may want to get you gotta bring everybody Eric good seeing you great

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44 Comments

  1. I like the Patriots trading down and taking JJ at 11 or 9, if they have to move up, then take an LT or WR to build with him. They'd have two 1sts in this draft and next draft.

  2. Colin roasting Jason at the end was the cherry on top. "He doesnt consider his family" lmao

  3. Frankly don't care that Harbaugh wants to sleep in an RV. The RV that a rich man buys is nicer than my house twice over.

  4. You know that home prices in California have gotten seriously out of control when the head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers has to live in a RV.

  5. TURN UP YOUR OUTPUT VOLUME!!!!!!!

    these videos sound is 'horrible' & u guys are sposed to be professionals!!! ;

  6. Caleb Williams is 6'1" 216lbs. Purdy is 6'1" 220 lbs.

    Colin saying Williams is thick but Purdy is small?

  7. Collins if you go to Japan you should also visit Taiwan and China. Make a full trip.

  8. I can't imagine for the life of me why the Patriots would want to draft a QB????? Their team sucks badly in terms of talent, why throw a rookie QB into a situation where he's SET UP TO FAIL???? I can't see even the best young QB doing anything except destroy his career playing for the horrible horrible team.

  9. Caleb has BUST written all over him.

    – 5 consecutive USC QB Busts after Carson Palmer.
    – Played in pass-happy No-defense Pac-12.
    – Undersized at 6’1”, which matters a lot more in NFL than college
    – Basic, simplistic, QB-friendly Lincoln Riley spread offense that inflates QB production and doesn’t translate to NFL
    – Known for his out-of-structure, backyard football plays. Playing in-structure is not good, which doesn’t bode well for the NFL.
    – Squeaky clean pockets from the shotgun with a deep secure firm pocket up the middle, tons of room to step up. His NFL pockets will be nothing like his USC pockets.
    – The Chicago Bears franchise has NEVER produced a Franchise QB, ever.

    This has all the makings of an epic, all-time Bust.

  10. His podcast is called The Volume? weird how his TV stuff is so quiet….except the commercials of course.

  11. I'm sorry, but I hope the Chicago Bears lose every single game next year. They didn't give Fields much to work from having not having a competent head coach nor offensive coordinator. Bears ownership is a damn joke! It's just shocking that people.actually think Williams is about to walk on water. I can't wait

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