Rob “Stats” Guerrera and Marco Martinez react to Jed York’s comments from the league meetings. Should the 49ers pay Brock Purdy big money next season? #49ers #brockpurdy #jedyork

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What is good everybody Welcome to the gold standard podcast I’m Rob stats Guerrera here with a very special guest on this Wednesday because Grant cone was traveling from the league meeting so we couldn’t do it at our normal time so I’m very pleased and privileged to be joined

By Marco Martinez of clutch jeene Sports on YouTube what’s up Marco what’s up what’s up man I I swear every time I’m on with someone I’m either replacing some big shoes it’s ridiculous y’all be putting me in these very hard predicaments having to replace Grant man that’s that’s crazy oh I’m sure you’re

Going to do just fine just say something wildly ridiculous at some point and you’ll fit in just fine perfect it’ll be like he never left make sure you like And subscribe to the gold standard YouTube channel and to clutch Jean Sports I promise it will

Make you a better smarter fan we got a couple different things to get to on the show today Marco Jed York is at the league meetings he did some some talking said some interesting things uh said some things about Brock pery said some things about the 49ers in general and in

Sort of his definition of success and how he defines success we’re going to get to that in a minute but I wanted to start with what he said about Brock pie and Brock P’s contract because that seems to be the big discussion point is that Brock PR is gonna get paid after

The year and the 49ers have to do all this preparations for it and so I want to first let me get to a broad point with you are you 100% convinced right now that the 49ers should pay Brock pie after 2024 no I’m not I mean we’re so

We’re looking at Rob we’re looking at Brock right in the terms of a very very good quarterback right but we’ve seen one year him get injured U during the NFC championship against the Eagles last year played well in the playoffs thought they played phenomenal in the NFC Championship leading that comeback come

From behind win to against the Detroit Lions but when you’re looking at Brock right you needed your quarterback to play great in the Super Bowl and didn’t do that for me so I’m not 100% sold I’m not convinced that he’s the go-to guy or he’s the guy of the future I’ve only

Seen one season of it like we’ve only truly seen one season and and I get it was a great one season but we can’t like the way I look at it is we saw Jimmy for five games right Niners got over excited they paid him we saw how that ended out

Let’s truly see Brock double it up on two years and see how great he could respond your season is only as good as the Following season in my opinion you can’t put together an MVP like season and then follow it up with the mediocre season and then next thing you know

We’re paying Brock pretty $40 million off of one season and he’s not that guy so for me I really like Brock I think he’s a really really good quarterback but I’m not 100% sold I’m not convinced that he’s the 49ers quarterback of the future and that he’s the franchise

Quarterback are you are you 100% sold on him you’re muted man I do that once a show absolutely not I am not 100% sold in I feel like you are the only other person that’s like me out there especially among content creators I am not 100%

Sold I’m not I what if he gets hurt next year are you really gonna commit $50 million to him or what if he just has a bad year like you said I’ve seen one good season from Brock pie that is not enough for me I have been just crushed

By 49er fans cuz I have said that I need to see two years from a guy before i’ say that this is my franchise quarterback and I would say that with anybody not just Brock with Trey with Jimmy anybody um and so 49er fans come at me with the Torches and pitchforks

But I’m with you I am not locked in and convinced right now that yes no matter what happens next year Brock py should get what’s probably going to cost between 40 and $50 million a year and the only the only way you could pay a quarterback that much money is if you’re

100% convinced now what’s crazy is we hear Jed York talking about it prematurely in my opinion like why you’re throwing out these numbers and you’re essentially giving Brock P’s agent all the leverage in the world because when that negotiation comes we’ve seen the ners negotiate in certain ways with other

Players where they play hard ball and they don’t really want to negotiate in good faith and that’s why some of these players have gone towards the media Debo auk now but soon as that Brock pretty contract comes up his agent’s gonna be like wait Jed remember when you said

You’re not worried about paying him $40 million or whatever it has to cost to keep him on your team I think I personally think he screwed up saying that like you’re over speaking just like he did before the Super Bowl where he came out and started speaking about how

The ners were going to win and how Brock was gonna play great and how Kyle loved him and XYZ I just don’t I don’t agree with him coming out now speaking about how great of a quarterback he is and how he demands 40 plus million dollar I

Think John Lynch learned his lesson when he said oh Nick Bose has already been budgeted for and then he found out well wait a minute that’s music to Nick Bose’s agen years Lynch has been very careful with what he said about auk he always talks about how they’ve got other

Expensive players on the team and how it takes two to tango and all that stuff but Jed York comes out at the owners meetings and it’s kind of a long quote but I’ll read it anyway he said quote I think it’s a good problem when your quarterback is one of your highest paid

Guys on your team and in the league it’s not like Brock is going to ask for something no one has ever asked for before you have I don’t know how many players making over 40 million as a quarterback right now when we signed Jimmy several years ago it was the

Largest deal in the history of the NFL for three minutes whether I like it or not that’s what the market is you have to accept the reality of the world to me the quarterback is the most important position not just in football but in all of sports those guys should be paid a

Lot of money I mean that could have come from Brock P’s agent’s mouth Marco and that’s what’s crazy is he mentions Jimmy Garoppolo right he mentions that contract it’s like there’s no reason to bring that up because if I’m a if I’m a agent first thing I’m saying is remember

When you said Jimmy deserved it I’m pretty sure broadcast better statistics better metrics film everything so like and do I I don’t I don’t think Brock’s the answer I really don’t but at the end of the day if the owner’s saying this the owner must speak very highly of him

The the coaching staff John Lynch must see high like view him in a high level but you’re giving the the agent all the leverage in the world when it comes to this contract he could he could come up and ask for 60 million at his starting

Number because the the right now 55 is Joe burrow leading the way so he can come in at 60 65 million and what’s Jed gonna say that’s not too much he literally said the quarterback deserves to be the highest paid player in the NFL

Or in on the team and I think that’s a big mistake I really do yeah the fact that he was just like ah it’s not even that difficult you know that’s market rate like on the one hand it was nice to hear because I love that he’s willing to

Cut checks like he has shown that he is willing to cut checks which is great but yeah I feel like he is kind of taking the the ammo out of the 49ers side of things uh on the other hand as Golden Dragon points out the longer Brock Waits

The more he gets paid which is true because those contracts are only going up but I would I would pay that extra money for more information and what I mean by that is I would be willing to wait on Brock let him play out this year franchise tag him POS once maybe even

Twice because the longer I wait to give out that long-term deal the more information I have on Brock so the more certain I could be about the person I’m going to give all this money to so I will pay that extra cost because I will have more information in the

Meantime yeah and absolutely when you do that too like so you’re going to give them that franchise tag obviously after the next year so not this year but the following year and what that allows you to do is not only see what Brock truly is like you’re going to be able to see

What he is now Brock won’t play under that fourth year it’s only going to be $4.9 roughly $5 million because of the escalation on play which is dirt cheap for a quarterback but if you’re truly looking to expand that window and you’re always talking about how the window’s so

Big to win a championship you got to actually put that into consideration if you’re telling Brandon iuk hey we’re willing to let you play on the 50 here because we understand how expensive other players are what it does for the ners Rob is it allows you to build the

Roster even more around Brock it allows you to look at the future um is he the answer um but the biggest thing is do you only pay Brock pry 40 million plus is if when you’re expecting that roster to get weaker around him can he carry

The team and I think that’s the biggest question is can he carry the team with the depleted roster like Josh Ellen right now they just lost in the bills they just lost a ton of talent how does he respond um he’s an elite quarterback we’ve already seen that but is BR is

Brock pretty that no I don’t think like he’s not in Josh Allen’s class I don’t think he is and that’s not a knock on Brock pie that’s Josh Allen is amazingly freaking good um and golden dragon says you can’t wait that long yes you can why why can’t

I like if Brock pie wants to hold out then let him hold out draft a quarterback this year break you know basically like prepare for that possibility and if Brock wants to hold out great congratulations Brock enjoy holding out enjoy those fines as they rack up for you we’ll just play with

Some other guy and then what happens if that other guy comes in and plays well Brock P’s gonna be sweating bullets out there during his hold out to me I the worst thing you can do is give a ton of money to a guy whose play can’t live up

To to that and the more expensive these contracts for quarterbacks get the the better their play has to be to justify it like Daniel Jones with the Giants what the hell are they doing giving him all that money that’s the fastest way to get bad is to give a lot of money Accord

To a quarterback that can’t live up to look at the Cowboys and dak’s not even a bad quarterback but they’re paying him so much money they haven’t done anything this offseason because they don’t want to extend him and give him any more money but he’s taken up so much of the

Damn cap that they can’t do anything this year so that’s why I would be willing to wait if I were the 49ers and it’s not like the 49ers need an elite quarterback to win games like we saw it with Jimmy Garoppolo we saw that when they have an elite defense and

And Playmakers around them that Kyle shanan could get the best out of guys like Jimmy Garoppolo so if you’re really looking like you could Kyle shanan could probably lead a team to the playoffs with a guy like Baker Mayfield or a guy like Gino Smith who are getting paid 33

To $25 million also when you draft well if you do truly draft well you could find another guy that’s a lot cheaper so like real reality is I don’t mind Brock pry getting paid but you better be 100% convinced that he could lead your team with the depleted Roston and if he can’t

That’s a big issue like TR like because in a few years right KD’s probably retired um Debo’s gonna be gone after the next two years no matter what um so now you have Brandon auk a lot of younger guys probably no Trent can he lead like everyone talks the ners need

An elite offensive line for Brock py to win like that’s the biggest conversation on social media right now that if the Niners don’t have an elite o line Brock isn’t that good so if that’s the case where do you get your o line from good question not having to pay a

Quarterback and and the thing is is with the roster building I’m like because I know you’re into all this stuff and everything like that like with roster building right o Line’s one of the most important B behind quarterback but I think a quarterback is as good as his

Offensive line is because we’ve seen quarterbacks look great behind offensive lines when they’re Elite offensive lines for example every year Dak has had a good offensive line they have a great running game and he looks even better than what he truly is so I I don’t know like the biggest conversation is the

Niners need o line that’s why Brock didn’t play great in the Super Bowl do you think that’s the case Rob I think he actually doesn’t get enough credit for playing behind the offensive line like I don’t think the offensive line was good this year at all I think Brock made up

For a lot of the shortcomings of the offensive line to be honest with you like like I think of that play in Jacksonville with that touchdown that long touchdown to KD where like he’s getting drilled and he puts the ball right on the money there were plays

Where he would scramble out and extend make plays Under Pressure there would be quick pressure he’d get the ball out honestly I think if if they had a Less Mobile quarterback in there we would have been screaming and Howling about the offensive line all year long this

Year I don’t think Brock gets enough credit for that I agree with you but also when I watch Brock’s film like when I watch Niners film I do see Brock walk into a lot of pressures like a lot of times like even in the Super Bowl like a

Lot of people were killing the offensive line but I felt like Brock truly does walk into pressures and stuff like that so it’s like there’s things that I want to see from Brock take that next level um for me if Brock does that this year and he’s

Doing what he did like last year like obviously what he did he did carry the ners in the NFC Championship that second half he carried them like put him on his back and say we’re going to the Super Bowl kind of thing so if he could do

That again this year then I think you pay him the 40 million I think it’s worth the 40 million but if he doesn’t live up to what he was MVP conversation I wouldn’t pay him I would I would go truly look for a quarterback and wouldn’t even mind potentially trying to

Trade Brock prie and then hey calling up Dion Sanders and I know just said it right there literally just thinking the same thing he said would call up beond Sanders and say hey I know your son doesn’t want to play for certain teams would you want to play for the ners well

I want to be clear too if it was $40 million I would do it for Brock right now my thing is I think it’s going to be closer to 50 or 60 and that’s that’s what worries me if it was if you told me they could get him for 40 Milli year I

Probably would do it but I think it’s gonna be more than that that’s really what worries me um so I I feel like I mean if I’m his agent I ask obviously for for market rate right because it’s not about who’s the best quarterback it’s about the quarterback

That’s up at whatever time they’re up at they always become the highest paid guy that’s how Kirt cousins ended up getting all the money that he’s gotten I if it was 40 great 50 60 that’s where I start to get scared and I I think it’s going

To be more than for I would imagine if they signed Brock do you think it would be more than 40 million a year oh guaranteed he’s if if his agent smart his agent starting at 65 okay Burrow’s at 55 so start at 65 you end up coming down back to that 60

Range like it’s you’re really not like you’re gonna if you’re Brock pry and you have an elite year you’re resetting the market no guarantee like no I don’t what’s the next quarterback coming up on a contract off the top of my head I don’t know I’m not too sure any quarterb I

Think everyone’s locked up for the next couple of years Jordan love maybe uh Lamar got his deal already uh yeah maybe Jordan love I mean I don’t know who knows what’s gonna happen with Dak because he’s in the last year his contract it’s a good point you’re

Looking at 60 mil that I’m not I’m not touching anything over 40 45 to 50 I’m not touching like I hey leave me out of it because people are gonna be like oh you’re in ha you’re a brock hater right at that point it’s like no no no I’m not

A brock hater I just understand what comes after truly paying a top quarterback who isn’t in the top four top five quarterbacks in the NFL I don’t think he’s in that range and you’re I’m only paying a quarterback 55 plus if they’re in the top five and that’s I’m

Sorry Brock isn’t in that level yet right should you pay a top five a non-top five player at their position any position top five money to me the answer is no whether it’s quarterback or anybody else third string All Pro says Rob don’t pay pie also Rob pie made up

For the O Lin’s deficiencies in doesn’t get credit for that yeah imagine that two things can be true at the same time that’s not a contradictory statement you can compliment a player and still say they don’t deserve 50 to$ 660 million a year I know that might be hard for some

People to keep in their head at the same time but two things can be true those two statements don’t contradict one another absolutely you could have them both of them be true at the end of the day like Brock does things to elevate the team but he also doesn’t do enough

Things to put that like to truly truly like if Brock was Elite like a lot of people say Rob to be honest with you he would have won the Super Bowl like the offense at the end of the day they scored 19 points right that’s not good

Enough for a Super Bowl at the end of the day an elite quarterback I understand with pressure in his face is making that throw to Jawan Jennings you pay a quarterback $60 million that’s making that throw that’s that’s just that’s coming like that’s my opinion I know it’s it’s may sound crazy because

It’s it’s our franchise quarterback but a $60 million quarterback is hitting that throw winning the Super Bowl and everyone’s going crazy because he deserves the money and it’s not just like maybe it’s not like oh he gets the throw off quicker or oh he scrambles away from pressure maybe it’s he figures

Out the blitz before the play even starts and audibles like there are different ways that he could have succeeded in that instance and unfortunately for the 49ers they didn’t I still think they should have gone for it on fourth down there but that’s just

Me um but I I think 187 Nails it it’s Jed’s money and he said he’s going to pay top dollar and I think Jed I mean from his quote that we read sounds like he’s he’s ready he’s ready to hand it over when the time comes and what’s interesting about that

Is I wonder if Brock pretty’s agent comes in is like you know what I want a fully guaranteed contract to my quarterback you’re willing to pay it are you gonna do it now like hey you you put your money where your mouth is just like Brandon auk said hey Money Talks BS

Walks right like hey put your money G get M you said it at the owner’s meeting now like I’m going to keep you to it because that’s what his agent’s going to do and if his agent doesn’t his agent’s not doing his job right I agree and I

Also wonder if the agent is like hey you got to pay more too because you’ve gotten this guy for peanuts for four years or three years you know and I could understand the ners being like tough crap that’s not our problem but if I’m the agent like I’m trying to make up

For all that money absolutely when you when you look at the way the ners operate I don’t see I don’t see a way how if they if they wait on Brock pretty’s contract right like they do with all their bigname players at what point does Brock do they have a situation where

Brock requests a trade too like or do or do they get that done right away because they want to get him they wanted him to be the first quarterback to sign that year to get him on a the cheaper contract it’s a good question for what it’s worth they got Jimmy done in

February they got Jimmy done like that it was lightning quick cuz I remember that was one of the things at that time I was thrilled like I was I bought into Jimmy Garoppolo after the five games I was like yes I think we got something

Here and and then they got him done and so fast I was like this is great like they must believe it like they didn’t mess around it was awesome uh I don’t know and then if they do sign him quickly is everybody else like well what

The hell you made us wait till August now you’re signing this guy early that’s it’s it’s gonna it’s weird because you want to the quarterback’s position you want to get that done right away like same thing with Jimmy like J like Jed said he was the highest paid quarterback for what three minutes

Roughly like it was it was really fast like a couple of days I want to say so with Brock you definitely want to get him done as fast as you can because eventually that that contract’s gonna come in you’re gonna have possibly Jared gof possibly uh Trevor Lawrence so

You’re gonna have a lot of contracts coming up and if you get Brock you get Brock done fast those guys are gonna um surpass it and it’s going to make Brock’s contract to look kind of like a discount in a way yeah a couple years into the Jimmy deal you were like hey

It’s not really that bad anymore cuz you guys are getting signed all the time Modello time 1999 shout out to Modello and everybody on Twitch we love the twitch fam they pay Jimmy G top quarterback money why wouldn’t they pay Brock top quarterback money I think in part because they paid Jimmy Garoppolo

Top quarterback money maybe they I think you know it’s possible I would understand if they were a little hesitant at the time like they didn’t need to sign jimmmy they could have franchise tagged Jimmy Garoppolo they didn’t do that I don’t know know maybe they look back and they say you know

We’ve got this tool in our toolbox in the franchise tag why don’t we use it this time instead of making the same mistake that we made with Jimmy Garoppolo yeah and I think when when they did sign Jimmy I was kind of upset they did just because it was five starts

Even though I love Jimmy uh when he went on that five game win streak um but I was like you got to use every to of your advantage you got to get the most information before you pay someone that big and with Brock he at least has a

Full season right we’ve at least already a full season and by then would have seen two seasons and hopefully three playoffs from Brock but it’s at the end of the day it’s what happens is when you get to that third fourth year on that contract if they continue to restructure

Him after the first year like they have done like Dallas is done with Dak you’re gonna get to that point where year three year four his cap his cap numbers are like in the 90 ranges because they’re going to keep restructuring like the ners always do and what ends up going to

Happening is they’re going to be in a situation where you can’t sign anyone and you’re going to be in a tough situation yeah I don’t like the the restructure over and over and over again that’s a bad cycle to get into that I don’t really love um I was you know I

Was glad that they didn’t restructure Armstead like let Armstead go you know it’s fine you got to cut these guys off a year too early rather than a year too late roadhog 228 thank you very much for the Super Chat says it’s crazy to say you don’t pay Brock because of the Super

Bowl with so many quarterbacks getting paid with no Super Bowl appearance or to say what if he gets hurt almost all rookie quarterbacks got hurt last year it happens yes I I understand that it happens and I understand that anybody could get hurt but if Brock did get hurt

Like Marco said earlier now you’re talking about a guy that’s had major injuries in two out of the three seasons that he was the starting quarterback that would be someone I would be a little hesitant to paying some guys get hurt more than other guys obviously there’s an injury risk with everybody

But like we saw with Jimmy Garoppolo like her guys get hurt yeah absolutely the reason why I said I don’t pay him based off of the Super Bowl is those quarterbacks that have gotten paid because of and without getting to Super Bowl or struggling the playoffs guess what they shouldn’t have

Gotten paid actually have gotten paid what he got paid is just unfortunately the quarterback Market is so outrageous that some teams they get a average level quarterback or above average level quarterback and they’re like you know what let’s pay him we we we don’t want to go into quarterback PR

We need to get a quarterback right now so we need to keep the quarterback and it’s doing it the wrong way in my opinion so just because a quarterback doesn’t get to the Super Bowl it doesn’t mean that they should have gotten paid like I don’t think DX should have gotten

Paid I don’t think Kyler Murray should have gotten paid y um I don’t think Jaylen hurt should have got paid off of that one year like I think they shouldn’t have gotten paid and I think you could make a mistake by doing so quarterback Purgatory is better than quarterback jail

Because quarterback Purgatory has flexibility if you’re changing your starter every year you have the flexibility to change your starter every year if you’re locked into a guy that you know ain’t it that’s the worst that’s why I gave the Rams so much credit for getting rid of Jared gof when

They did and taking at the time the biggest dead cap hit in NFL history and oh by the way what happened they got Matthew Stafford and immediately won the Super Bowl so like if you have a guy that you know isn’t good enough move Heaven and Earth to get off of that guy

I would rather roll the dice with somebody that I don’t know if they’re good enough then stick with somebody that I know ain’t it absolutely that’s 100% 100% everything he said is pinpoint perfect on quarterback purgatory and quarterback jail it’s it’s crazy because I think

It’s hard for a lot of people to say Brock has played the quarterback position better than any 49ers quarterback in years and that’s indisputable since Jeff Garcia really but also not want to pay him it’s like how could you not want to resign that guy he’s been the best quarterback we’ve had

In in a long time but they’re two separate things and I think it’s hard for a lot of people to look at it like that well yeah of course you’re gonna have the of course he’s gonna be the best quarterback we’ve had since Jeff Garcia like look this’s truly look if we

Were to put together a list of 49ers quarterbacks it’s all trash let’s be straight up like let’s be straight up like it’s since I’ve since I’ve watched the 49ers growing up the ners have not had a quarterback that has been good like that’s been good enough to pay like

So it’s not like that he’s better than uh Steve Young like like since Steve Young like it’s no it’s the ners have not had quarterbacks since Jeff Garcia Jeff Garcia even Jeff Garcia I wouldn’t have paid major money like it’s it’s not like it’s a big deal that he’s better

Than every quarterback since Jeff Garcia that’s true you’re talking Colin kernick you’re talking Jimmy garoo Alex Smith God I’m I remember Troy Smith and Cody picket and JT O Sullivan J no disrespect I love you uh yeah Sean Hill that’s right Niner fans would honestly Rob was crazy because Niner fans would have

Probably been calling a playay sea Hill because he got a 10 and six record Nick Mullins Sean Hill like yeah it’s it’ll be interesting do you think they’re going to draft a quarterback this year because I think they are at some point they should and if it depends on where

They draft I mean if you’re looking at um Mid around you could get a guy like Michael Pratt uh from tane um I think he’s a really good quarterback I think he’s a starting level quarterback in the NFL uh it’s just one of those ones where if you look

At Michael Pratt if they take him in that third round where he’s projected a go uh oh uh oh that’s like yeah we know the 49ers history with the third round it’s uh um prickley to say the least if it weren’t for Fred Warner it would be looking a lot uglier

It’s they don’t have a good history there uh I do think they need to take a quarterback I don’t care what round it is could be end of the draft could be I doubt they take one early because they don’t want any of that smoke but I think

That will happen I’m so excited for the draft this year they have picks they have first round picks I can look at mock drafts again Marco and I Can Dream well I mean the Niners are are technically taking Joshua cardi from Stanford in the first round a kicker so

You get used to it Rob you get used to it and shout out to Diego in the chat saying uh if Rob would have had me on he probably would have voted for me in the March Madness that’s why exactly why I got bounced in the first round thanks

Diego thanks Diego is a YouTube channel member thank you to Diego and all our YouTube channel members uh shout out to you if you want to become one it’s less than $3 a month to get custom emojis membership badges priority comment response so please please do it it’s a

Great way to support the channel Channel media Madness this year is uh bigger and better than ever we are now into the Elite 8 I was just bounced myself unfortunately Larry Krueger uh took me out of the bracket much to my dismay so

We are in the Elite 8 if you want to go vote just go to our website goldstandardcams.com randomized the matchups so it wasn’t like I you know crafted a path for anybody who did you uh who did you lose to I’m so sure you had me going up against Michelle come on

Rob that was that was definitely set up for failure I’m just Michelle shout out to Michelle I’m glad she glad she won yeah that uh that was a tough one for you I I heard from a lot of people Al saaca was like how are you going to

Put me up against croc in the first round I was like dude I got to put somebody against him um but yeah so it’s down to Brad Graham against David Lombardi then it’s guy Haberman against Matt mayoko Vish knocked out Grant and he’s now vicious going up against the

Defending champ and Eric Crocker and we have Matt barrows and Larry Krueger I don’t know how this thing is gonna shake out I’m I’m lowkey going for the underdog let’s go Vish man like yeah Vish like let’s go here’s the thing nobody dislikes Croc that’s why he dominates this tournament

I don’t even if you don’t love Eric Crocker nobody dislikes Croc like I do a lot of things that tick people off so I know I have no shot to win this thing but Croc is a freaking Juggernaut man he he does he’s he’s literally The Golden Boy like he’s literally does great

Content everything about Croc there’s nothing to dislike so he’s definitely probably gonna go two times in a row and win it again not gonna lie the Brad Graham David Lombardi matchup is really interesting to me because Lombardi has a huge following Brad has a huge following

I feel like I don’t know who’s I don’t have a good say on that right now Brad Graham is up in the matchup against David Lombardi uh 224 to 129 right now at last check that was might be a little out of date but that’s the last check I

Have Brad’s actually winning which is pretty surprising because Lombard’s got a loyal loyal audience I think Brad’s gonna win that one man I think there’s a lot of people who truly respect what Brad’s been doing over there he been obviously covered the combine covered the um Senior Bowl does

A lot of things well over there he has a big platform himself he has actually had two platforms on he got you got the Brad Graham then he had his I believe his um 49ers account um so he had definitely has a big following as well um so shout

Out to everyone still in the I believe Elite 8 hope you guys all win it only one can so see who wins it here’s the thing so Croc won it last year and I sent him a little trophy you know media Madness trophy I’m sure uh I I’ll send

Him one this year but if it’s like barrows or Lombardi or mayoko that win it like are they gonna give me their dress to send him the trophy or they gonna be like dude I don’t care just send it to if it’s one of those guys

Just send it to the athletic uh or where they’re at or NBC authentic and they’ll get it somehow that’s true I could do that that’s a good point uh okay let’s get to the other thing that Jed York said which was talking about success and how he defines success and I I give

Credit to Grant con because he’s the one that pointed this out and it’s a it’s a good point because I like when we hold owners accountable for what they say anybody owners GMS coaches because Jed famously said all those years ago we don’t hang NFC Championship banners here

It’s super bowl or bust and yet this year Jed said even before the Super Bowl well if we had lost to the Li it still would have been a successful year and he said at the owners meetings this week Marco that it was a successful season in

2024 I see you shaking your head explain that’s man he’s I I I I get Jed York he’d rather pay for NFC championship rings and Super Bowl rings he’d rather give participation Awards and hold up the Lombardi I mean to I thought that was the one of the most embarrassing

Things from the NFL um owners meetings how do you go from 10 years ago it’s always been about we win championships talked about how his uncle and 10 years ago he said this my Uncle my uncle built a foundation we’re going to continue building off that Foundation of Super

Bowl or bus mentality and now you’re saying no it’s okay you got to get him next year get him like that’s a participation mentality and I’m not about it I I don’t agree with anything Jed York said about hey as long as we win you know what that’s telling 49er

Fans keep sitting in my seats paying for tickets we’re winning games we have a good product on the field but not good enough maybe next year keep keep sitting the crowd like I just don’t like okay so you’re all about the money and not the wins that’s essentially what he told us

Like I’m willing to pay Brock because you’re going to come sit in the stands to watch him for the next 10 years so that 60 million I pay him doesn’t matter he may not win ever win a Super Bowl for the 49ers but guess what as long as he

Gets to the playoffs out of nine out of those 10 years it was successful I thought it was ridiculous from Jed York because that’s from the very top pretty much tells Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch you’ll never be on the hot seat as long as to make the playoffs every other year

Yeah I think I think it was I think a lot of 49er fans reacted the way you reacted I understand his thinking in that like we didn’t win the Super Bowl that doesn’t mean nothing we did counts but I also think when you’re the 49ers and you’ve gone to two Super Bowls since

2019 and you were so close in 2019 and everything fell your way and you’ve been in this wi now window and you’ve loaded up on contracts and and you’re kicking the can down the road and restructuring guys and really going all in to win a Super Bowl and you don’t that is a

Failure like for example last year’s not a failure for the Lions right they’re they’ve never been in the playoffs they got all the way to the NFC championship game they were winning in the NFC championship game at Halftime like not a failure for the Lions by any stretch

49ers aren’t the Lions they’re at a different point in their team building cycle than the lions are this was a failure last year the whole season was Super Bowl or bust last year without question was a failure it was fun I enjoyed the hell out of it they were a

Great great team but they failed and I think that Jed should have acknowledged that I really do I understand what he was trying to say but I think he missed the Mark I really do yeah don’t get me wrong I do get what he was trying say

Essentially like you know what we did what we wanted and we put ourselves in the dance right like we wanted to make the playoffs we wanted to get to the Super Bowl to give ourselves a chance like that’s what you truly want to do but the way he worded things like well I

Didn’t see it as a failure but then what also made me upset is like he’s saying the season was a success but then Rob do you remember when he came out that week of the Super Bowl or the week before the Super Bowl and he like did his own media

Press day was like wasn’t even supposed to speak but then he went on like this Victory lap on how we were going to win the Super Bowl and it was Super Bowl City and I can’t wait for a parade Brock’s the real deal like he went and

Said all this and then he realized oh I messed up one by saying this stuff two he realized the Niners aren’t in a good situation to win a Super Bowl they went all in you don’t go all in and push all your marbles to the to the center and

Say I’m all in lose the Super Bowl and say well at least it was at least we got there like to I don’t I don’t get it now when you start having to pay Brock like I get now you got to be in every year

That you pay Brock like you got to be all in and every year you don’t win with Brock is the super it’s the Super Bowl bus year remember Jed York also mentioned Super Bowl are our Super Bowls are won by quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady

Yep so if he truly believes in what he said and he believes that Brock is worth that money every year the Niners should be all in and it should be a either a successful Super Bowl One season or unsuccessful season because you’re wasting the time of a Tom Brady and a Patrick Mahomes

According to Jed yort and I think that uh Jed’s point about like in order to win the Super Bowl you have to get to the Super Bowl that’s true getting to the Super Bowl like that’s not nothing but for this team and this time in this era it was different getting to the

Super Bowl in 2019 that’s a that was not a failure in 2019 right they were awful for a long time after Jim Harbaugh left and then bam they finally get to the Super Bowl that’s not a failure but going to the NFC Championship Game a couple times after that and not getting

There and then finally getting over the hump and tying the biggest comeback in the history of the NFC Championship Game to get to the Super Bowl this year not winning this year is a failure and there’s a difference between those two things and I think that he should have

Acknowledged that he should have mentioned it because I do think that over the past few years there has been an element with this 49ers team of well we were the best team but we didn’t win right we were the best team against the Chiefs in 2019 but Mahomes went Mahomes

And we didn’t win and then we were the best team in 2021 but you know Jimmy Garoppolo got banged up at the end of the year the Rams beat us in the NFC championship game and then in 2022 we were the best team but Brock pie got

Hurt and we lost all our quarterbacks in the NFC championship game like they were kind of living under this sort of delusion that even though they hadn’t won a Super Bowl they were still the best team in the league and that’s not a good message to send from the top and I

Think that Jed should have said like hey we failed this year we failed this year because that’s over now you know like they don’t have that excuse anymore they can’t say that fiction this year Brock was healthy they had the number one seed you know all that stuff and I think that

That’s the message that Jed should have sent absolutely because one your players are playing for super like they all understood from Fred Warner Nick Bosa Trent Williams they’re wasting a year every year they don’t win a Super Bowl this going to be the next quarter that just doesn’t win a Super Bowl because

The Niners can’t win it like Jed York one should have immediately said you know what it was a failure of a season because my head coach and the team didn’t know the rules for overtime like that’s embarrass that’s one that’s embarrassing two you truly like I don’t I just felt like it was

Very complacent in in terms of you know what I extended I extended Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch prematurely kind of mentality hey they’ve been winning games they’ve been getting to the playoffs here’s your reward for that like no no no you get rewarded for Super Bowls in

The NFL not for getting to the playoffs and losing in the NFC Championship or losing the Super Bowl and I think for me that’s more concerning than anything is Jed yor is satisfied with just getting there I’m not satisfied with getting there that’s WI the damn thing remember

When Jim Harbaugh wanted a new deal what did Jed York say he said he wants to be paid like a Super Bowl winning head coach and he hasn’t won a Super Bowl yet which was true like okay that’s fine but yet Kyle Shan’s gotten multiple extensions with the 49ers and he hasn’t

Won a Super Bowl so again it it kind of goes back to that shift in Jed that we’re talking about and it was super Bower bus before and now the standard is lower and I think that’s where I think Jed’s trying to mature of as an owner

Because he used to be a lot very um had a lot of input on General Manager head coach hirings and stuff like that U obviously he made the wrong decision when he let go of hard ball and kept um Trent baky and I think he learned from

That but I think at the end of the day you still have to hold a high standard and I think that’s where it’s getting lost where that he’s trying to say I matured I’m a mature guy now I don’t get over excited I don’t lose my cool when I

Punch the wall when we lose in the playoffs anymore but at the same time it’s okay that maturity level is different than holding a high standard you yes you matured but your standard has came down during that maturity level so that’s what I’m confused by and I

Feel like to Jed’s not gonna be the guy that says hey Kyle you failed because then Kyle won’t be his friend and I really think that Jed just wants the head coach to think he’s cool like he wants to get invited to the parties that

John Lynch and Kyle Shany can have I I do think that’s a part of it I always got that vibe from Jed that he just wanted to sit at the cool kids table yeah he sure is now I mean he was with them in Cabo he’s

Uh hey well hey you made it if that’s what your if that’s what your goal was to make it to Cabo with the the Cabo click you made it but guess what Uncle Eddie is disappointed because you’re not winning Super Bowls what’s your take on the Cabo click because I absolutely hate

It and I think that they should absolutely stop doing it it’s weird like why is your team clicky like that if you have a clicky team that just shows your culture in the locker room in my opinion like why is your team so clicky that’s one the ownership general manager and

Head coach’s fault like it should not be that way and I think it’s I I love that the guys like guys like KD juice and them I love that they hang out together and they have more than just a a team friendship like it’s a more of a actual

True friendship but it’s very clicky and you you could tell in the like locker room is a little divided I don’t if the players have their own clicks that’s one thing the fact that the coach is involved that’s what bugs me I don’t like that the coach

Is part of the click the coach needs to be separate from the players it’s like labor and management right like they’re two very separate distinct parts of an organization they have to work together they need to support one another but management makes the decisions coach is coach M’s GM players play they shouldn’t

Be mingling you shouldn’t be going on vacation with your boss no I I don’t like it I really I don’t think it’s good I don’t think it’s healthy for the locker room if I was not in the click every time a decision got made I would

Be wondering like you know did The Click have influence over this I mean we’ve seen the click got Trey Lance kicked off the field in 2021 like I would not like this at all if I was in that locker room do you think Brandon and you gets invit

Add to the click the Cabo click once he gets extended no if you’re not in it now I don’t think he’s in it and like you think Brandon auk was wondering about that when Debo’s getting 11 Targets in the Super Bowl and he’s sitting here

Like what the hell do I have to do to get the damn ball like I’m sorry I don’t think it’s a good thing for the 49ers I think it’s it’s terrible for the ners like I I truly do because like you said like you definitely see favoritism

From Kyle like he’s always had his guys right like so it’s one of those ones in it’s it’s interesting obviously the Tre Lance situation his rookie year where um everyone like the the the coaching staff wanted Trey Lance to play but then we heard that t uh George KD and some of

The other guys on the team wanted Jimmy to play because I was their boy like that’s that’s weird like oh so now you’re letting your group dictate who plays and who doesn’t play that to me is pretty wild as a head coach it’s crazy to me that they

They put the Tre Lance package in it was working for the 49ers they were scoring touchdowns with it and the players complained in the first place number one it wasn’t like well it wasn’t working and then they pounced on it like no they pounced on it even when it was working

And that the coaches listen to them that blows my mind that that happened and everybody just was like thought it was okay like Kyle has never even actually been asked about that in public he has never been asked about it at a press conference hey Kyle did the veterans go

To you and complain about Trey Lance in 20 they’ve never even asked him about it even though all the beat writers now acknowledged that it happened yet none of them thought it would be a good idea to ask the head coach about it when it was occurring yeah that’s what was

Interesting is like everyone like it just blew my mind like you’re there to do a job as in the press conference some of them ask good questions some of them like are afraid to ask the question it’s like just ask the question like when I was I know like when I was covering

Stanford and they’re getting ready to fire David Shaw I was the first one hey hey this your last game like what’s up like this how do you feel about this being your last game like it’s or one of your last potentially last games I no

I’m not here to be your friend I’m here to get the truth and and Report the way it should be reported and now we’re not saying we you and I both aren’t saying like oh we thought Lance was good we just the process of how he let players

Dictate Jimmy playing over Lance his his rookie year is what we’re talking about not necessarily lance being good or not 100% agree the process was bad and it was it was just clicky and ugly and yeah the whole thing I think is is really weird I don’t hear about that happening

With any other team I don’t hear about Randy Reid taking a bunch of players out with the Chiefs and going on vacation to Cabo with them and hanging out like no it’s a weird weird situation okay uh 40 W this show has gone by fast let me just

Tell you absolutely 45 minutes in Marco you are somebody that I feel like doesn’t get enough credit it because if you follow Marco on Twitter or X Marco mar1 1205 you will find out things about the 49ers sometimes before they happen you have a lot of sources you talk to people

People talk to you just because you don’t have a the word Insider in your job title people don’t think you have sources you absolutely do and it’s something I don’t think you get enough credit for I really appreciate that Rob that that really means a lot coming from

A guy like you especially with the platform you have I really do appreciate that um it’s just it’s it’s crazy because people just because you don’t have a big following or you don’t have that Insider in your name they don’t think just like they don’t like they see

You differently I guess but I really appreciate that from you oh no worries uh I don’t know how that I have a platform that’s bigger than anybody else it’s certainly not the biggest out there by any stretch of the imagination although we’re doing everything we can

Um is there anything you know right now that maybe a lot of 49er fans don’t know that you can share with us as I put you on the spot um no usually I try what I try to do is I make sure I tweet it out

Or I get it out there um I don’t like to keep anything from anyone like whatever I hear is what I hear and whether it’s people don’t realize like things move so fast so for example if I get a text message right now right within the next

25 minutes it could have a change like once we’re off the show like I and I follow up like hey is this still happening it could be completely like you know what Niners are completely done with that conversation they’ve had with a team um I know they have called on U

Quarterback from Greg uh not Greg Greg Nome from C uh Cleveland Browns I cannot Nome um so I know they’ve called on him I know they’ve they’ve done like a brief conversation um they have not taken anything from any teams in terms of I know I saw 17th pick overall being

Offered that was BS like right away like the guy I talked to was like he laughed like literally I was on the phone with him he laughed he’s like what he’s like no teams has ever offered anything cuz a ner aren’t letting anyone offer they just right away say no he’s not

Available bye like so not really um I would say that the Brandon I situation on Twitter or social media is a lot more blown up than what’s going on behind the scenes that’s for sure um at least from what I’ve heard that’s the biggest thing that I really have right now okay well

That’s good news that’s reassuring that it’s not it’s pretty chill behind the scenes that’s goodz sometimes it’s not like that with the 49ers in negotiations I thought Vish brought up a good point on Monday he said this is an this whole like Brandon IOU contracts thing is an

Opportunity for him to get talked about in a way that he isn’t really talked about that much because it’s always Debo and mcaffrey and KD and Bosa and Warner like he doesn’t get a lot of attention and love and this contract situation is a way where he can get love in in from

National media sources that he hasn’t gotten and I think that’s kind of true and he Vish is absolutely right on that like if you think about how the NFL views uh auk like in general they don’t talk about him as a top 10 Receiver right like he’s oh he’s on a run first

Offense he’s really good no no he’s he wants everyone to know wait I’m a top 10 receiver like don’t don’t mess with me just because I’m on a like he said it last year I’m on a run first team and I’m the fourth option and I hit a

Thousand yards like if we were to give him true targets he’s up there in the top five in terms of yards per game yards in a season touchdowns I I love I love that V said that cuz that’s true and I think that I agree with you in

That iuk wants people to see him that way and one of the ways people start to see you that way is if you are paid that way because the team will tell you what they think of you they’ll tell you what they think your worth is by what they

Offer to you and so I’m sure he wants top 10 money because he thinks he’s a top 10 wide receiver and if he were to agree to a contract that was less than that it’s sort of like him admitting that he’s not that guy and I don’t think

That’s something that he’s going to do and he shouldn’t do yeah absolutely he shouldn’t and what’s crazy is I see a lot of people always talk about like oh how how are we going to pay two Elite receivers iuk and Debo um well the thing

Is if you pay if you do extend iuk it drops his number from 14 to around four to five so he’s not expensive this year and then you have an out on Debo next year you could trade him so it’s not really you’re not really paying two expensive receivers year one of auk’s

Contract you’re paying you it would be the second year where it would crease and then you potentially move Debo and if we’re being honest you rather would pay the elite route Runner versus the gadget guy who can’t create separation and stuff like that for example if iuke

Would have been the primary target in the Super Bowl Niners are probably Champions because he could beat man coverage and he was actually whooping both Corners butts uh during the Super Bowl that that’s the thing I don’t understand is that why did the 49ers not see that and I think too it’s

Brock predy like then like okay I know I get I I get Kyle Shanahan’s calling the plays but like again from the beginning we’re talking about Brock being that Elite high paid level quarterback you should know what they’re in they’re in man coverage they’re sending pressure

Who should be your go-to guy not Debo like you should see this and even like I don’t know it’s definitely I’m definitely paying auk um I think auk is if I did a ranking with Josh Harper uh former NFL receiver for the Raiders um Fresno State Legend played with on the

Same team as Devonte Adams um we did a a ranking and he actually had Brandon auk as a top 12 receiver in the NFL and I think that’s about rout where he is based off of last year and he could put himself easily in the top 10 after this

Coming season and I think that the part of the reason the 49ers gave the contract to Debo that they gave him very short-term contract is because they knew that this scenario might be coming down the road I think the 49 new there is a chance that Debo does not blossom into

This you know all round well-rounded wide receiver and that we will want to get out of his contract when Brandon auk’s contract comes up I I think there’s a reason they gave Debo a very short-term contract when they gave it to him because they wanted to avoid the

Situation where they would have to pay big money to two receivers at the same time and luckily for them they have avoided that situation yeah they absolutely avoided the situation and they they put put themselves in a great spot when it comes to the receiver situation because now you have Jennings

As your receiver three who’s making around 4 point 5 million and you could essentially extend Jawan Jennings after next season and let Debo walk or trade Debo and I think Jennings is a a legit number two like you could he could truly be number two we saw him in in the Super

Bowl he was playing really good football in that Super Bowl so I definitely didn’t the ners have themselves in a good situation especially with Ronnie Bell who played good as the rookie um you also probably going to draft the rookie so they’re in a good spot I know

A lot of people were are mad or frustrated that the Niners are going to have to get rid of Debo but that’s what’s looking likely and probably won’t be this this season but next season you’re probably moving Deo I feel like people will be mad when it happens and

When they see that the offense is going to be okay without him next year like they they’ll get over it real fast but they’ll be mad in the off season and then they’ll be fine once the games start well absolutely what’s crazy is I literally tweeted earlier today like

Right for the show U I’ve been watching a lot of Adon uh Texas Adon Mitchell and um if he’s there at 31 there’s no way Kyle passes up on him no way like he he if K if he’s there at 31 Kyle probably takes a receiver Adon Mitchell at 31 um

Reminds me a lot of CD lamb who Kyle loved that draft um he has a lot of insight on Texas because he was at Texas and he’s really good friends with the head coach so you could essentially be replacing Debo in this draft with you want a rookie to come in Kyle put

Usually puts him in a dogghouse he’s going to learn the offense he’s going to have that one year to get ready for the following year and it’s going to be something that the Niners probably should do I completely agree with you I know a lot of people talked about

Malachi Corley um as like a potential Debo guy I don’t know anything I don’t know anything I don’t pretend to be a scout I don’t watch college football during the regular season because I’m locked into the NFL um I know that was a name that brought up you’re shaking your

Head I’ll take your word for it um good good player don’t I’m not I I’m not saying not good players you’re really good player but it’s I want to go go get a route Runner opposite of Brandon go get a route Runner like let’s go get away from that Gadget kind of receiver

Now it’s cool but that’s what you have running backs for you could find there’s a receiver from Texas Willington um he’s kind of like the Debo hybrid um he’s a more of a running back body but he plays receiver um you could get him in like

The seventh round so it’s like if you’re going to go get a gadget guy go get one at the end of the round or even the running back from Texas A&M who plays receiver as well don’t waste a high pick on Malachi Corley which is in the second

When he can’t run great routes it’s easier to find a guy that can be a gadget player for you later in the draft than it is to find a wide receiver like a very well-rounded wide receiver a guy that can get open against Zone a guy

That can get open against man and I think hopefully the 49ers realize that we’ll see we got a long way to go before the NFL draft what have we got about 30 days I think it is something like that actually exactly 29 because it’s the U

The 20 the 28 because it’s the 25th or 26th of April so there you go we will be there for you we’re going to start our Draft preview on Friday with Michelle I think we’re going to look at tackles uh this Friday coming up I’m also going to

Do a show with Thor nrom of fantasy pros we tried to do it last week but we couldn’t we got our wires crossed but we’re going to do it this week too so plenty of draft cage coming up here at the gold standard again like And subscribe like And subscribe to clutch

Jean Sports as well Marco this was a ton of fun man I’m so glad you were able to do it thank you so much hey thanks for having me on that the episode with Thor is going to be a phenomenal episode he definitely be talking about when it

Comes to uh NFL draft I’m excited for that one I’ll definitely be watching that one because he has a lot of good stuff to say oh thank you yeah I don’t pretend to be a draft expert but I like to talk to people that know a lot more

Than me and uh hopefully he’s the first of many on the gold standard enjoy the rest of your Wednesday every

20 Comments

  1. The issue with comparing Jimmy Gs contract and Brock and everyone else is Jimmy got paid when this team had 100 million in cap.

    Most of the guys in that 2017-2029 era of the 49ers got paid pretty early, and that's because the guys that actually formed the core got paid around 2020-now.

    Kittle was the 1st of the bunch to get paid, and he got paid in August.

    Jimmy G also got 40+ million up front, which made his contract better for the 49ers when he showed he was absolute ASS.

    Brock is getting a deal when the team has like 8 All Pros getting mega deals

  2. I think we saw peak Brock last season. Not much potential to get better other then Gametimeexperience but im not convinced that he can make for loosing some expensive weapons when he would get paid 50m+. I dont get it why his fangirls all lose their mind and just go full simp mode when it comes to him. Imagine he doesnt get paid and SF moves on from him. Imagine the screaming and crying. Dont say they will im just thinking about it. Next off season will be very interesting if Brock doesnt play aswell or better then last season or if heplays bad and doesnt get paid. The Fangirls will be in shambles.

  3. I don’t necessarily agree with this take. After 6 games in season one and all of season two of his career I think we know what his floor is. He was running for his life during some of those games thanks to the right side of the o-line. He got them to the superbowl with that line. Also if he’s not the answer should they be drafting /looking for the answer? I don’t think so.

  4. Stop being ridiculous about this Jed York comment just because all of u media guys r struggling for content rn u guys all get cringy this time of year

  5. We need to relax on Brock. Niners cannot sign until next year and even then they can place the franchise tag on him. He will have plenty of opportunities to his 40-50 mil a year. This doubt about Brock thou is ridiculous. What else does he have to prove in a year and 5 games

  6. Why is everyone dogging the guest . He is just stating his opinion on the matter . Doesn’t mean anyone in the comments has to agree with it . Y’all don’t have any fucking manners.

  7. The Eagles paid Hurts and haven’t lost talent. That’s all I’ve heard the roster will be depleted. The Eagles haven’t lost anybody they’re adding players

  8. If Brock plays as good as last season pay the man +55M. Before that pay Aiyuk who'll be Brock's no 1 target years to come.

  9. What came were you watching that Ayuik was beating man coverage. Go look at the tape bro. He had two plays I can think of that he beat man coverage and on one of those plays the corner slipped

  10. I like this Marco dude. Make a play its the SB. Win a SB and that fool can make all the money he wants. Sooo sensitive people. Lol😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😢😢😢😢. Stop crying😅😅😅

  11. Another bad analysis by a bad analyst. What does Brock have to do? Josh Allen hasn’t done shit but lose! Terrible pod I’ll stop watching this click bait show.

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