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My right hand and my right arm work like this through here so there it is there it is there it is it’s not doing any it’s not getting here going like that yep okay now when when I do that people go well if you’re going to do that then

What’s going to happen is when you get to the top of your swing you’re going to have a shut face I go well now here’s the top of my swing where’s the face they go well it’s it’s good it’s good yeah well see here’s what’s happened I

Go here now as I go to the top of the Swing what happens is my arm rotates in my shoulder socket see another big misconception is that you want your forearms to be twisting now you don’t want your forearms rotating right minimal forearm rotation is really good

So it goes like this as I go to the top my arm externally rotates in my shoulder socket yep now where’s the face but what is my right wrist done now it has a little up and down but it’s basically just doing this yep that’s all I feel my wrist doing y now

When I start down my arm internally rotates in my shoulder socket and where’s my wrist and then it goes like that so it goes boom boom boom throw all right Mike so let’s talk about the role of the right arm uh and right wrist in the swing okay we’ve done a

Bunch of videos on right wrist right arm and know you’ve done a bunch of videos on them and so I think kind of starting right from the setup and then whatever we think is relevant during back swing and down swing big picture Concepts I’m going to hand the mic over and flip-flop

Spots and we’ll rock and roll so so what I have here first of all Eric I got this little Contraption yeah so this is a glove where I’ve stuck a a rod through it and what it is that shows my wrist people have a hard time visualizing

Wrist okay yeah so let’s talk about body mechanics and and forces so when I throw a baseball this is how I throw a baseball so you see this Rod the Rod’s not it’s staying like this it’s not doing this yes okay but what’s see my wrist is

Doing this y if I shoot a basketball yeah okay it doesn’t do this no if I throw a bowling ball yep it doesn’t do this well guess what when I hit a golf ball it doesn’t have to do this got it now that is a way to play yep the

Problem is when you add a lot of forearm rotation like this to time all of that forearm rotation to get your forearm to line up with the back of the shaft and your hand in the right position this killed me as a player because when I

Came to this game I played golf like this yep and they said I had a shut face with a throw release so they said well here’s what you got to do you got to get the toe up and get the toe up well now what’s this

Doing that and plus they weaken my grip which this will be that’ll be another video but here’s here’s what my right hand is doing my right hand and my right arm work like this through here so there it is there it is there it is it’s not

Doing any it’s not getting here going like that yep okay now when when I do that people go well if you’re going to do that then what’s going to happen is when you get to the top of your swing you’re going to have a shut face I go

Well now here’s the top of my swing where’s the face they go well it’s it’s good it’s good yeah well see here’s what’s happened I go here now as I go to the top of the Swing what happens is my arm rotates in my shoulder socket see another big misconception is that you

Want your forearms to be twisting no you don’t want your forearms rotating right minimal forearm rotation is really good so it goes like this as I go to the top my arm externally rotates in my shoulder socket yep now where’s the face but what is my right wrist

Done now it has a little up and down but it’s basically just doing this y that’s all all I feel my wrist doing y now when I start down my arm internally rotates in my shoulder socket and where’s my wrist and then it goes like that so it

Goes boom boom boom throw and when you do that Mike if you do if you take your sit up do the if you could do the initial takeaway part more time so when you’re doing this here and kind of what I would explain with that which to me

Would be the easiest way to do it this would be a little bit more of a kind of palm down is right not that forarm rotation this way and then that makes the face when you’re looking at your takeaway position tilt which is square right tilted down some amount not not here

With the forers yeah no no see what you want the club in this part you want the face let me do it with this bigger Club so people can see it if we had a Target line we use your Club as a Target line so this is a target line let’s put it

Back here yeah okay so my club goes like this so the club face is at a 90° angle angle to my swing Arc yep relative to the Target line it appears that my club face has opened yeah it has opened to the Target line but it’s at a 90° angle to my swing

Arc now as I go up to the top and my arm externally rotates in my shoulder socket now the face is square to my left arm it’s not shut Y and then when I start down I go like this and when it gets right there where is it again well it’s

Back at a 90° angle to my swing Arc at waist high it comes into the ball it’s closing on the target line but it’s staying at a 90 degree angle to my swing Arc to right there yep if you do that you can’t hit it offline yeah there’s

The ball doesn’t curve much when you get in trouble or when it the timing comes in is when all of a sudden toe up hold the angle this way instead of this way yeah I mean lag you can’t lag the club too much if you lag it like this yes

Because all it would do was hit the ball low yep but if you lag the club this way with your palm here and you’re late I mean you hit it right left everywhere and I think two key checkpoints because obviously the way that you’re going to

Release the club yeah has to do with where your Club faces in space no question right and so this sort of model in videos like I would say you know if the face is tilted down call that let’s say at at first parallel yeah and you can get it during the downswing pattern

Back into sort of the same spot that sets you up to be able to do all of this no question and so if a golfer comes in and I know you and I see a lot of the same stuff yeah and they have that toe pointed up whether it’s here up here

Early on especially during the down swing pattern if they if they make this this is why shallowing the club bothers me yeah with a lot of players because when they shallow the club they also Palm Paces up and the face gets right here yeah and they can’t release it like

That then well good luck catching this one up yeah gotta I don’t care how good you are with your body there’s going to have to be some of that and when you start adding that rotation if you’re playing somebody who’s doing this through the ball okay and they’re

Hitting it and you’re doing this through the ball yeah I can promise you who I’m betting on right me too yeah okay so here’s you know Dustin Johnson kep all these guys now are getting the club like this because they’re understanding the physics of the club face being at a 90

Degree angle to their swing Arc and their right hand now they don’t rotate it they for lack of better term they throw yep well throw is where you have the most speed in your wrist if I went to throw a ball and I tried to twist my

Arm as I through it it would slow this down yeah and good luck hitting me when you’re doing that so they’re not doing anything that gets in the way of this action yeah because that’s where you have that’s where you have the most speed gotcha so if I can create that I

Got a lot of speed with no face rotation and you and I Mike I’m want to hop in there for a sec I think two two things I’d like to ask you about um which are right along with the same same things I think as a checkpoint thing right you

Know something I used to always see before I get to the checkpoint thing and I didn’t know enough at the time and I used to see it via grip and I it’s still true but in your story about how you had a stronger grip went to weak I went

Through the same exact thing I had a stronger grip pattern and I had a release pattern that was exactly like you mentioned because I had the face ready to do that yeah I went into a weaker grip pattern was taught into I got toe up toe up and then I have a ton

Of roll and I see that across the board younger players especially who never taught anything who have stronger grips in particular and have the face more tilted down via the grip the release patterns are awesome yeah right and so I think when people come obviously there’s always prerequisites all this stuff like you

Got to you know there’s a grip pattern that’s in here but I think as a checkpoint if someone has never heard this before wants to have it more pive release style having the club face tilted down kind of when it’s parallel to the ground right would be a excellent

Checkpoint that you mentioned and then as I’m starting to work back down getting it back into that same tilted down that’s exactly right and starting with that yes to get that and if I were going to practice that mik and I came in and we were doing a lesson let’s say and

I had my toe up pattern which I’ve had are you starting off you someone like what I would do you know I’m kind of like feeling this coming back feeling that back down and starting to hit some little shorties I’m going to make sure first that your lead arm grip is neutral

For your so your joints line up so you don’t have to twist gotcha I’m going to start if you’ve got a lot of twist in the face the first thing I’m going to check is to see if this left hand grip matches how your joints line up which is

Another thing a lot of people don’t understand in golf yeah how your joints line up under Force because this arm’s role should be to stabilize and square the face this arm’s role should be to pressure the shaft and accelerate the club head gotcha but if all of a sudden

Your grip’s weak in this hand for your joints and you pull and your hand goes this way well now the face is open so this arm’s roll now has to be to try to twist to catch it up that’s a beautiful Point okay so I I would start with grip

Make sure your grip fits you okay and then I would start with once your grip’s right y go okay put your right hand on there then I’d have you we got to get this off now so now what I would do is I’d say okay here’s what we’re going to

Do you take the club back to right there you just stop right there we got a ball and a t then I’d have you from there just take your right hand just hit the ball and release it like that and just hit a Chip Shot from from that position

From right there now just hit it Forward just do that and feel how your hands work to hit it from there like if you put someone in an athletic situation where they have the face here and the target’s there and I need to learn and we didn’t even tell

Them anything about what to do through here but they were in this position that’s the way they would need to release it to hit a ball straight it’s not that you’re ask them to do anything more than this is what it is versus hey now now go and release it well you’re

Going to go this way well that’s why that’s the biggest reason people cast yeah yeah weak grip with a open face and they’re trying to catch the face up and they think this is going to catch it up that’s what we I mean we we did a couple

Videos about the right hand it got to the point where I’m saying listen as a feel wise face here I I like people to start to get the face pointed towards the camera no question and then even as I’m starting to work back down yes and and because from that position there if

I have any kind of I hand coordination to hit at a Target my releas pattern all that see most all these guys on T if they have weak grips and they open the face take a hold of it if they have fairly weak grips and they get the face

Open the first move they make down out of the top is they go like that with their wrists they don’t go like this no cuz there isn’t anybody who’s any good who has the face right there at that point no there’s a few that are about

Right here the majority of guys now are right here yep exactly so your right hand here’s what your right hand so this is another thing I get people to do I take their fingers like this y I say here’s what my right hand does it goes

Up here y it comes right to there now if your wrist is relaxed and I hold your fingers and you go what’s going to happen when I let your fingers go your hand should just go yeah got you got okay so just go that’s what my golf

Swing feels like so it goes boom boom that’s it game over so the hand action there’s two different there’s two hand actions one your hands are working more this way Y and the other your hands and arms are working more this way and what would you say is the primary thing that

Leads to that that dictates which one well this is more efficient for sure but the industry has been has been forever it’s been open and Clos the face exactly so that’s what everybody thought it was now I didn’t know that when I started so

I had this grip with a face there with a face going here and I hit it and it drew a little bit and I beat everybody and then as soon as they weakened my grip and got me doing this I mean I’d hit some good shots but occasionally I’d

Make a swing and hit and I’d look up and the balls going freaking sideways yeah and then they’d say well just trust it Mike just go to your happy place and just let it go and i’ put the ball would do this I’m going well that’s not working for me

Yeah I’m in my happy place I’m in my happy place I made a nice swing and the ball went sideways and I’m trying to make a cut and make a living I got to I’m going to have to start manipulating the face yeah exactly and then as I

Started to manipulate the face then I was I was my hands were good enough that wherever the club was I could kind of figure out how to get it back through the ball Y and get it in front of me but I couldn’t go at high speeds cuz at high

Speeds I lost control of the face AB so how could you not too much Twisted exactly so it becomes you want to play golf this way which is doable or do you want to play this way I mean for me it’s no contest through the ball I’d rather

Play this way than play like this that’s way too much timing involved in that it’s a speed producer but you give up control beautiful I think get the club face in order yes match the release PW or hand action to it I’m G to work on

That and uh I love it that was beautiful good job perfect

20 Comments

  1. Just saved this viedo in my goldtraining folder on youtube and deleted all other videos. Best tip I have ever seen!

  2. Forearm supination / pronation is anatomically associated with external /internal shoulder rotation ,
    so when Mr Malaska says that he externally rotates his trail shoulder going back , he is ALSO supinating ( trail Palm more up) his trail forearm without even thinking about it.
    Because he has externally rotated his trail shoulder going back , his trail forearm is facing almost perpendicular at the top. This is similar to Tigers position at the top and basically simplifies the transition by eliminating any need for further trail shoulder external rotation and shallowing going down .
    It also probably requires some trail wrist extension going back to naturally offset any opening of the clubface resulting from external shoulder rotation going back . As long as the clubface is square or slightly closed at the top , this is a simplified way to perform the backswing .

    During the downswing Mr Malaska makes the MISTAKE of thinking about internal trail shoulder rotation TOO EARLY . Doing so will result in the right arm straightening too early and a hip stall .

    And contrary to his claims , there is plenty of supination / pronation of top players during the downswing . However, this pronation /supination happens unconsciously and does not require any action by the player.
    Just as an example , assume that the clubface is about toe up at last parallel in the downswing . From there the clubface must rotate about 90 degrees to become about square . How do golfers do this . Partly via rib-cafe rotation , and partly via internal trail shoulder rotation and partly by pronation of the trail forearm .

  3. I tried this move last year after watching this move. I was really throwing my left hand at the ball (I am left handed), and ended up injuring my left wrist and even got a ganglion cyst. So, maybe I was doing it wrong, but be careful with this move.

  4. Bryson DeChambeau recently gave a lesson with an interesting comment. If somebody tells you to try something and it doesn't work FOR YOU fairly quickly, look for something else!!
    Sounds like Mike Malaska proves that point!!

  5. I love the dramatic illustration with a big club head! I once saw a guy with a six foot tooth brush to put in his child’s bedroom. To make sure he or she would remember to brush their teeth!

  6. I’m a scratch player, and I can tell you that he NAILED THIS. I’ve experimented with the forearm roll type swing. I can hit it further, and strike is even a little more consistent. However, direction is a surprise on every shot. I didn’t like that, so I went back to keeping the face more square to the arc throughout my swing. I simply cock the wrists BACK, and release them forward. I don’t hit it quite as far, and sometimes I’ll catch it a little heavy, or thin, because it doesn’t feel as natural, and feels a little restrictive. But, the direction is VERY predictable. Just like he said…. It’s 2 different ways to play golf. Pick your poison. Haha

  7. Any videos or tips you can point to related to the “making sure your lead arm matches your joints”?
    The timing of this video is spot on (I’m trying to change my swing to throwing for all the reasons mentioned in the video), but I find I am questioning how weak/strong to make my left (lead) hand

    Thanks!

  8. Isn’t this too “handsy” though? I don’t think either swing described in the video would produce consistent results. I have tried both trust me.

  9. Already pressed like in the first couple of minutes when Mike started on forearm rotation, my swing Nemesis 🙂

  10. Eric!!! Help! I thought your previous videos talked about a little right forearm rotation through impact!!! I am confused…..

  11. Awesome right wrist / elbow action! I always doubt when twisting my elbor / wrist that will decrease the probability of a good impact… Now I'll definitely try it out next time at the range. But how about when hitting w/ a Wood / Hybrid / Driver? or even a Wedge?

  12. I’ve tried this because I like it’s simplicity, but my ball flight is kind of ballooning. What’s the key to keeping the dynamic loft down while doing Mike’s flip motion through impact?

  13. So funny 🙂 Yesterday I was watching Eric give tips of Seniors getting more distance and rolling through impact was one of the tips. I tried it today and wow I either popped it way out right or closed the face so far I hit it off the toe, possibly because this and body turn don't work together. Also in trying to do this I couldn't unhinge my left wrist correctly or apply pressure with my right. I can do pitches around the green like this as long as I still have my hands pass the ball before impact
    It is clear you do roll the forearms in the swing, but it is all done pretty much above horizontal on both sides of the ball and is a reaction to the shoulder socket movement and the elbows bending. (R on back swing and L on Follow through) It is not something that I think you should do consciously.
    I agree save this video, no download it.

  14. This series of videos with Mike made the biggest difference to my ball striking, Mike talks, Eric listens intensely, this really is top class uncomplicated instruction

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