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The pi Pipers to a lot of angry people that don’t really think too deeply themselves are saying it’s virt virtue signaling but without really being able to identify the virtue that’s being signal because this this isn’t a this isn’t a flag of anything hi Ramblers Pete doson here in

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Brassel they knew you were coming they put on a show for you didn’t they just didn’t they just it it was it fall one of course yeah and but it had a weird sort of rehearsal feel to it really because of course you know that they

Need to keep keep a bit in the tank for for for Poland and it was always going to be Poland yeah and not that they were assuming a win or anything like that that you know the atmosphere was still I always find it quite unusual when you go

To a Wales game at Cardiff City cuz it is is a really great experience but you look at the stadium from the outside and it doesn’t feel like an inspiring sporting Arena and then you get in there yeah and it feels and it’s oh my God like it’s amazing it’s like a thousand

Times better than when they play at the Millennium I think they were all quiet and they going hang on he’ll be here in a minute let’s sing exactly they do sing better than any other fans in International Football it’s remark they look like a big fun club that you really want to be

A part of don’t don’t they there’s proper culture has grown around the traveling fans of of of Wales at at International tournaments and that’s a that’s such a such a brilliant thing yeah I I I do agree with that what you’re right to say about them singing I

Did witness them play Portugal in Euro 2016 semifinal and I think the Portuguese fans are quite underrated when it comes to intern na football with their singing and their chanting and their fist pumping interesting it’s unlike you to [ __ ] on Portugal there andy well I don’t think he did well I

Think you did okay run with me with this you’re okay um are you um going to apologize when you go back there cuz we’ll make sure they know what you said yeah once I’ve got to the bottom of that Lake and uh got my dicone

Back so I can record an apology yes I will there we go yes I will well Wales um got a big win so did Portugal last night by the way but but uh what a what a start it was it was but lovely lovely finish from Brooks it it it was it was

Amazing the way he readjusted in mid a to finish that beautiful but having said that the singing still going Finland are just like catching their breath after that and Lucas fety who bear in mind is the goalkeeper for the Bundesliga leaders the team who are going to win

The Bundesliga when he pushes out that shot from Harry Wilson you thought that’s poor the the thing is Wilson has got an incredible left foot but he’s not really panel that and retki pushes it out to pretty much the only place where Wales can score but he’s not going to

Hold it though is he and if he pushes it you know as if um more kind of in 180 degree angle then it’s right across the face of the no but if he if he pushes it back where it came from or in the other direction there’s no other Wales player

In sight is that not down to the pace of the move though because it was quite slick and and it it felt like yeah it felt like everything that Finland were doing defensively was reactive to what Wales were doing after three minutes yeah yeah I mean obviously that defined the

Game the fact they scored really early in the first half and really early in the second half but that idea of it being a sort of rehearsal about being a way to work out Kings it was funny because as I say the atmosphere is extraordinary at some moments at other

Moments it dipped a little bit as if mines were elsewhere and Wales defended in the first half and you know they are I think they’re a much better team than they were at the last World Cup very much agree much better got rid of that last night yeah holding them back wasn’t

He anything ially I actually agree with such a shame to say that about the best British player ever yeah I I don’t I mean I see exactly what you’re saying but naturally whenever the these things come about other players come to thought because they just have to play play a bit

Differently you know we see it with Spurs for example in the way that Kane leaves and suddenly feel like oh God you know everyone’s scoring goals here yeah cuz you have to like everyone has to step up but I think was is that the end of Gareth Bale’s career certainly it was

It was really quite sad yeah but without Bale I don’t think Harry Wilson you know Brooks to an extent obviously he came back from um from cancer you know lymphoma um only in what the start of this season um someone like Dan James uh even NECA Williams to a

Point he kind of gave him a bit of space to you know work it all he probably ampadu is another good example of this I think the Bas gave took the pressure off them to a point didn’t but the other side of that is is the fact that if

You’re Wales you have to be impeccable off the ball a major tournament you can’t do that with bale and to be honest probably Aaron Ramsey in in the team anymore there’s a bit of luck involved in a sense of the timing of it all which is that obviously the the players that

Were going to you know take take the place of Bale and Ramsey and players who are a little bit more limited let’s let’s be honest are at least younger you know like all of these players have got their best years ahead of them now mhm they’ve always had a bit of an

Exuberance a youthful exuberance about the the teams under page and maybe say before I mean we should apologize to well fans because we’re talking about Bale and so on I mean he’s he’s he’s long gone now actually really this is it’s not exactly the first game without

Him but it’s it’s it’s a brilliant win um the aention Williams scored the pick of the goals and we are going to mention Gareth Bell just for a moment because I think this is a good moment he scored his free kick in that exact same spot

Two years ago when Wales beat Oster at the same stage of the playoffs yeah and also you know for that fourth goal oh come on covered more ground than Gareth Bale did in his last two internal just two I I would I would go maybe six Internationals that was

Brilliant I love it it’s the most Dan James goal Possible only he could road yeah because no other forward would think I’m not going to press we’re 3-1 up yeah right the defender’s got the the the ball he’s in his own half there is

No danger here in D Jam going we just a little I could I could hang on a minute this guy’s not seen my party trick it was the way the defender looks over his right shoulder sees James about 20 yards away he’s like it’s okay looks back to

The keeper looks around again oh he’s not there cuz he’s on his other side it’s like a horror movie is it was absolutely bril well maybe Wales were were so pumped for this game because of ree I’s uh pre-match Team talk did you see this CH did rousing yeah the the the

Famous actor of course in um uh I can only think of nosing Hill he’s in lots of things he is in lots of things Spiderman he’s in the importance of being idle The Oasis videos so that was probably the finest achievement there we go of of his career and he unlike in

Notting Hill he wasn’t just in his pants that’s right but his speech I think it’s um you know number of people would have seen this I think it would have been more rousing if he’d just been in his pants yeah but oh no if he starts if he

Starts it fully closed yes and by the end every pause it’s you know it’s brilliant you should seek it out but every pause he just takes off an item of clothing but then of course and he ends with just his pants on because there will be slight relief I think from the

Players and and no nobody could press charges but you know it’s a very um rousing as opposed to a rousing speech both and well I I would say so I I watched that speech and I was like I want to play for World um some might say

It was slightly over the top with some of the historical references I’m I’m not sure I I very much enjoyed it but I do think that they they’ve gone big for this semifinal they’ve already had Michael Shane they about during the World Cup that was but that’s what I

Mean it’s you know you going to use him again maybe not so what you saying Tom Jones for the final now you’re talking John kale to just say nothing for four I think Tommy Jones to just sit there and they go right uh Tom we are kicking off

In 10 minutes you going to have to say something oh and then uh and then he goes sex bomb sex bomb no Tom this is a Anthony Hopkins come on Sur that’s your headliner I reckon I reckon you got to keep you got to keep a Hopkins in the

Chamber for The Knockout stages don’t you in the chamber with a mask on as well maybe a little bit motivation and Terror I think yeah ohing I’ll [ __ ] eat you if you don’t win this he’s having a bowl of spaghetti you have Hopkins do a spoken word verse

And Tom Jones belt out a chorus love it oh it’s inspiring sort of musical what about Robbie Savage what about him yeah yeah hello Savage we and leave him to Anthony have they done Charlotte Church yet or is she more I don’t think so ah good point she I

Think she’s very patriotic so they should get her involved right Jim that’s what I think an oddly sort of um politician type casting this this ongoing um pre-match inspirational talk we should have it as well the thing is if you go to High then naturally the fall when things don’t go

Well is is you know quite Stark so maybe when it if they do get you know if they don’t make it through next week or if they do disappoint in the Euros they should bring Gareth Bale back to come in and be like it’s all right is it there

Always the next one Golf Club in hand yeah let’s have eight in holes forget about it B got a golf club like I said I always felt they’re kind of like 75% in like it was it was a great night it was a good performance that they know could do with a little

Bit of tweaking because if they defend like they did in the first half they’re in trouble I think but they they tightened that up at halftime you got a sense that the wing backs had more of a sense of their defensive responsibility so as well as being a a really good

Occasion that was a rehearsal for a great occasion yeah it was a pretty good performance which was a rehearsal for the sort of performance that they probably think they will need to get there yes well of course they do play Poland on um Tuesday who they are better

Than by the way yes and they’re at home of course Wales yeah and that makes a massive difference which which we would think would make a a massive old um difference so uh yes um elsewhere in the in the playoffs last night Luxembourg were away to Georgia now they lost the

Game 2-0 there was an extraordinary passage of play which lasted for about four minutes which if you haven’t seen try and seek it out I think you find it on Twitter probably um where Georgia a one goal up and there’s a ball over the top their man runs onto it and is fouled

Um and and it’s always it inside the box or outside the box and apparently a vck is um is being conducted but it’s not given and the game continues Luxembourg go up the other end and equalize and celebrate as if they’ve just scored a last minute winner okay but fine that’s

Up that’s you know they they celebrate how they want so they they go absolutely crazy one all you know huge goal for them and then that sort of begins to calm down and because a few minutes has gone past and then the referee suddenly goes hang on hang on I’m getting called

In in the ear here goes over to the screen this allows the Luxembourg goal and it’s a question of is it a penalty or is it not it’s deemed outside the box but it’s a straight red card so Luxembourg go from being in a position where they think right one all we’re

Back into it to n enter 10 men and that’s you’re you’re a goal down and that’s probably the game up which of course it would subsequently be guing I mean just yeah I think there has to be if there’s a v like that and it’s and

It’s um it looks like a very very tricky one to call you you’ve surely just got to stop game it’s like a far more extensive version of when a really late flag comes isn’t it yeah but you’ve got to blow the whistle you’ve got to say

Hang on a minute because that passage of place it’s just the emotions yeah you kind of need counseling after that don’t you you do and it was made all the worse by the fact that it was raining something about the rain added added to it rain Night in Georgia Etc oh

Dear anyway let’s get away from those playoffs uh and let’s talk about the friendlies or as my old manager used to say I don’t believe in friendlies it’s a challenge match um so England face Brazil in a challenge match uh tomorrow evening at webbley it’s seven I do

Prefer that he’s he’s got something there yeah he thought it was some psychological thing that us 10year olds would respond to my goodness we did Jim we never lost one yeah you are a very aggressive competitive man now aren’t you apparently SOA yeah well um England have

R beaten in their last three meetings with Brazil the most recent one being a nil-nil draw at Wembley that was ahead of the 2018 World Cup I was there it was a rather boring game yes so I’m hoping tomorrow is a better game Jim you s of said England should

Have someone doing pre-match team talks who would you fancy Matt Barry the top of my head yeah you’re going to have to some people might not know who Matt Barry is uh Matt Barry is a comic actor uh with a very very silly voice um has a

Lot of presence um very sort of kind of camp and vampish can you do a little impression um not really I’ve heard you do an impression it’s possible um I don’t know that go on England get out there and do it yeah it’s more Dempsey isn’t it that’s more Paul dempo Dempsey

That was do you know what that was that was a bit um that’s good what about the guy who does xfactor voiceovers P Dixon yeah yeah him get out there England actually that would be good would I tell you who would be good Tom Skinner right L you’re representing the

Free Lines no I can see that happening and I’d hate it i’ hate that cont get out there win the game for us a b can I put forward Gemma Collins nope yeah the only time I’ve ever seen Ben White look happy was in a video with with Gemma

Collins he chased AR didn’t he yeah tells you a lot about the star power that she has I would love that then maybe she’d fall down a hole like she did at that award ceremony okay well I think we’re all agreed now England shouldn’t have a pretty much T by anyone

Other can’t agree yeah well should we get this out of the way then talking Let’s Do It um the New England kit um there the the St George’s cross has um had a playful update according to Nike um perhaps you’ve seen this on the back of the collar of um

Well I think both shirts but the one in sort of that was on question on social media was was the home shirt in particular the horizontal line of the Cross is not its usual red it’s a mixture of Navy light blue and a sort of

A pinky sort of mauy kind of color um this is uh just caused everybody to to to no not everybody actually it’s caused uh a number of people to have a bit of a ding-dong about this I like the New England kids up like the aw I think the

Awake kit is the nicest England kit years and it’s a shame that this is what’s being spoken about instead of that I think it’s brilliant but I think it’s also a shame that uh a a a huge company decided to give a nation’s flag a playful update now the fa did agree to

This you know and I can understand why people are a bit like hang on you shouldn’t mess with a country’s FL it’s it’s it’s a strange thing to do I don’t think they should have done it I haven’t lost a wink of sleep you”ll be pleased

To know about this and I suspect that that is probably what most people’s opinions are about this yeah but it’s uh it’s obviously attracted some [ __ ] it has from like you know the usual not being one of them thank you the the the sort of vocal minorities that are sort

Of you know are kind of like the pi Pipers to a lot of angry people that don’t really think too deeply themselves are saying it’s virt virtue signaling but without really being able to identify the virtue that’s being signal because this this isn’t a this isn’t a flag of anything it’s just different

Colors um in thee of the George’s flag and the 2011 England kit had um different colored crosses on it as well you may remember on on the shoulders as well so we’ve seen seen this happen before and I I just the reason night gave is because it was a nod they said

On the the sleeve trims it was a nod to the to the England 1966 training kit yeah which is very specific and and it’s also a bit Naf it is naely but I think a lot of um a lot of design choices are made with these sort of things in mind

You never realize that as a sort of you know consumer on the aw kit with the kind of the panels down the side there’s there’s a there’s a splash of color there and it was apparently a nod to the the the fashion Easters and those who kind of and it’s just like that’s

Exactly what I’m talking about yeah it’s like don’t explain it just say well we faned just as it up a bit I quite like it having having a PO as well but it it’s you know I think the people that are sort of taking Umbridge with this um know that actually

It isn’t virtue signaling this this these colors don’t mean anything but it’s a very very easy way to to whip up um some anger in a tedious and um frankly damaging culture war and we’re seeing more and more of it and it’s just it’s just a big shame the England kit is

Now a culture War well the funny thing the well I mean the the thing I find amusing about it is it feels like it’s you know the colors have elicited a reaction in those [ __ ] because it you know it points to I suppose other issues where they’re quite strident on

You know unreasonably strident on um but I think it’s also it was also triggered by Nike’s tweet about it yeah where they refer to it as a playful update yeah that was a bit sloppy and on the color to unite and Inspire but to my mind those those types of people read

Playful and they were oh I don’t want anything playful in our country and also the idea of like to unite and Inspire being something that has been used to bring communities together is exactly the kind of thing they dislike the ven con to a point ridiculous that that that

Is the whole point of an international football team exactly yeah well let’s hope that uh um that’s all forgotten about very quickly just being angry at the idea of something meaning something yeah but it yeah incredible silly not bring back umro hey Andy there some of the some of the

Comments under that like night I supp it wasn’t a clarification tweet it was an explaining tweet but some of the comments being like well done we won’t be buying this I was like mate do you know how few people actually buy a New England kit yeah you don’t worry about

It they’re not at full price certainly yeah exactly yeah I like you’re an idiot by the way just in case anybody’s not sure of the admin this kit was conceived two years ago the fa did sign it off so they are complicit and uh if they were

To kind of go all right we’ll recall them and then send out a load it would probably take about six to n months apparently so this is this is what we’ve got so it’s like it or lump it or all the England players wear a neck brace when they’re wearing their awake kit

Basically a good idea Andy and I think that’s a snood no doubt these people would love to bring the snood back anyway we’re getting off the topic England versus Brazil tomorrow it’s a big one um Brazil have a new manager Doral Jr um he has been the new manager

Since January did you see the interview that he did in the guardian I did very um I I loved it very Frank yeah he’s a really interesting character seems very happy to be there but also really really sort of uh straight talking and emotionally quite honest there’s some

Really revealing stuff in there he said there’s something like between 1500 and 1600 Brazilian players playing away from Brazil now which is an extraordinary number isn’t it really really extraordinary and talked about how the national team is is is very very different from how it used to be he says

This has been going on for 10 years or more exactly he’s not suddenly realized this and how you know when the when the players come back to play for Brazil they play the game and then they’re off back to their clubs obviously because they have to be so you know they they

They don’t they’re not around when the impact of the national team is happening anymore he’s not criticizing anybody etc etc but it was a really sort of honest and Frank is explanation it didn’t come I don’t think I think I think he’s saying if you look at what we just

Talked about Wales there trying to Galvanize you know everybody and we’ve seen this with with a number of teams if he’s trying to do that he’s maybe thinking okay there are things I mean Eddie Jones said this about the England rugby team he said that any rugby team

That he’s managed before he knew that there were certain touch points he was like oh yeah I can start talking about this or there’s this this this kind of strand of of chat or whatever you want to say um and he found England the England team the hardest to try and kind

Of get a sense of that englishness and we know in England they’ we should also clar Eddie Jones is the bell end yeah fine but I’m but he’s but he’s an incredibly um uh prominent figure in the in in a in a in the sport of rugby and

And has reached a couple of Rugby World Cup finals but yes there’s no doubt what you just said I’m not the only thing England England and England and Australia could and I think it comes from a place of of just having no empathy whatsoever whereas I don’t think theal comes off in

That way no no I don’t either to finish my point is that you know sometimes it can be quite difficult I mean you say about the players look at Andres Pereira I’m you know fullam midfielder of course I don’t think he’s even lived in Brazil he Belgium actually but he chose to play

For Brazil so perhaps in in some of the more traditional ways of trying to to to bring a squad together emotionally or whatever maybe he’s sort of suggesting that I don’t yeah you you get players like andrick like leaving as teenagers venicius Jor left really young didn’t he

I I think he’s created a massive rod for his own back here because the thing is he’s come to power basically because Carlo ancelotti kind of left them in the lurge they thought they were getting in for ages and so they’ve gone for this I guess like the CBF would say Unity candidate

But he’s honestly like probably about what third fourth fifth choice and he set himself up on yeah we need to be more Brazilian we need to pick more homegrown players and like the way that football works that’s just totally impossible didn’t sound this you’re talking about one interview I’m talking I’m talking about

Every single press conference he that he’s given before and since taking the job which is we need to be more Brazilian we need to have more Homebase players he’s like how how so is he is he touching on a on a bit of a political point there is that is this almost like

A Manifesto you know a poter in terms of something that he’s decided to bring to the table yeah a little bit a little bit I think I think it’s really interesting because Brazil I think are in quite a bad place at the moment well that’s what he’s addressing yeah and but but he’s

Part of that he’s part of that they just joined them Andy no but the fact that he’s got the job is like really a manifest a of the fact that Brazil he might be of Brazil anyway so so it bodess well for Brazil that England have

Got injuries be Saka is out uh of the squad completely I can’t help but look at M arteta and think what are you what youing yeah it might be like William s’s toe injury Gabrielle yeah Gabrielle’s out as well Ben White didn’t fancy it actually yeah um you know how like Gian lucali

Used to fight the Chelsea players if they didn’t wear Sliders in the shower do do you reckon like because you know if you could damage your feet do you reckon for the last week before International break all all the coaches are like yeah just Barefoot this week

Lads yeah no no um no after shave though remember yeah exactly oh yeah had to pull out with a Vera well Harry Kane um has Twisted his ankle and uh he is unlikely to start against Brazil it’s fair I like none of this cynicism for St Harry threw himself into the post

Theatric was what was very amusing is how the the the sporting director of of of Bayern uh kristofh FR he was asked about it after the the game against armad where he injured himself last week and he’s like we’re in uh constant contact with the uh English FA about uh

Harry’s condition at the moment and it was hilarious because of course Bayern are used to ruling the roost they’re like we’re in a situation actually where we have the England Captain even reading between the lines where actually we’ve got no influence on this they’re going

To do what they [ __ ] like and if he wants to play he’s going to play and there’s nothing we can do about it yeah that’s why he’s St Harry and I don’t know any other Arsenal players currently plotting their trade who have got a statue either no did you see the uh the

The um images have been finally released of this uh statue that was supposed to be installed at chingford station in is chingford in London or east London it’s East London yeah um we talked about this before probably in the hinterland where it’s a little [Laughter]

What do you think of the statue I think it looks like it has been created to um frighten children as an example of the man that will come and get you if you eat too much chocolate yeah cuz he looks like he’s made of chocolate in this that’s a

Good massive he looks a little his the head looks a little bit vanal I know what you yeah um if Harry Kane doesn’t start who would you fancy well this is this is interesting because the week before I returned from India I very much enjoyed the quite colorful debate had

Here between maybe yourself and Luke or maybe between Luke and himself um about colors were just white and red to be clear no virtue signaling here yeah well exactly yeah yeah um but it was um essentially around how Watkins should should get the nod because of what he’s

Done this season that was Luke’s argument and and a very very understandable totally um so and I I kind of agree with that actually I I prefer Ivan Tony but I I do think actually Watkins has shown us something not so much with his goals actually but

Maybe more with his link up play what his double figure assist in the league isn’t at the moment he’s he’s all across it yeah yeah and he clearly has gone up a level um for Villa and he’s a large part of reason why they are fighting for

That Champions League spot I think it’s this is actually quite a big deal I don’t necessarily put too much stock in friendlies but with with someone like Harry Kane out this is basically the clearest in indication we’re going to get in terms of the you know who who

Who’s the alternate for a key position and I think on current form it should be Watkins but is this really important because to to me I think it is important for South because it’s Southgate having to make a clearcut decision see I see your point but the fact is Kane is going

To play in the Euros there are much bigger questions in terms of defense and Midfield they’ve got very little time to work out I I would also say if we come to a situation in the Summer where Harry Kane gets injured and can’t play a couple of games my first choice would be

Come home and in Li of that y you know delay delay the tournament exactly Saka is not playing Jim who would you like to see flanking Watkins or Tony that is a good question Phil foden presumably would be you switch him on to the right I was I

Was hoping to see that front three um of Kane The Middle sacker on the on the right and foden on the left so I it’d be sad to see foden on the right because we know he can play there but um would presumably in the tournament if

Everyone’s fited to start on the left so wouldn’t mind see Jared Bowen given a go there possibly Cole Palmer I think probably Palmer actually because I think with Palmer if you’re going to play him you’re going to have to shoehorn him in some way um at the moment I mean p down

As a midfielder he is but he he I think his form demands inclusion so actually is a really good opportunity to get a look at him um James Madison is obviously in there as well some people would love to see him I think Bowen would be played off the right if he was

If he was going to play you know when you get a feeling about a player Randy and I think there are some players who doesn’t matter what they’re doing for the club whether they’re playing well or okay but they put on the national team jersey and suddenly it sort of really

Really happens I wonder if Anthony Gordon might be someone like that yeah little bit even though he’s played very well for his no because because he’s a prominent player for new not the but but do you know what I mean what do you do you think may we could see Anthony

Gordon at some point but Gordon has been really really good this season yes no no again I stress that for Club he’s I I think he feels to me like a bit of Southgate as well because because he’s extremely useful when he hasn’t got the ball as well exactly he’s an absolute

Pain in the ass other players hate him you can see why not his teammates they like him presumably you guess so now they like him yeah this is so the other questions are who will be in the Midfield with rice and Bellingham um although perhaps not because we might get into a Jordan

Henderson debate there let’s talk about the defense then Joe Gomez has been um been been been speaking quite a bit about his time when he was previously uh in the England squad and obviously got that injur and he’s come back and a player that I’d kind of forgotten about

Obviously there was that rockus with Raheem stering but that seems like water under the bridge especially Sterling’s not even there but but even if he wasn’t I think that would matter um lot of injuries could we see him starting any of these because because a number of

Years ago stones and Gomez look like the two for England now you are going back a number of years here so perhaps it’s not even worth saying that I think if we were to see um Stones maybe go into the Midfield whether that happens or not I I

Think that Southgate has got Gomez as a center half in mind much more than a fullback even though he’s played fullback more for for Liverpool perhaps you might disagree then maybe I I think if if we’re talking about pushing stones into Midfield we’re getting into the area of risk that maybe Southgate

Doesn’t fully Embrace like seeing it from his perspective so you think Gomez would be would be cover then at the back yeah maybe I think I think in terms of in terms of this well I think you’ve got the option haven’t you I think to to see

Gomez Play and play well would be I I think would be really good for England because he’s like he’s in great form at the moment he’s in really great form at the moment and I think with all the defensive issues that England have got in terms of form and fitness getting him

In making him feel important and part of it I I think he’s he’s he’s really a key part of this interal break yeah and we England are playing Belgium of course on Tuesday there is another game hug games and Belgium are no mugs I think we’re all looking at Brazil thinking that’s

Obviously the Glamorous one which it is but as I say Belgium is not Belgium are arguably better than Brazil at the moment there you go yeah there you go all right everybody coming up in the second half we’ve got France versus Germany oh and San Marino will be with you in just a

Moment good on England you tell us something your mom doesn’t know oh right welcome back to the Football Ramble everybody Andy brassel read that email damn you I’ve got one from Alex Loveless here it says one for the absolute football nerds like myself why am I reading this out emailed a few

Years ago providing a rare occurrence of Luke Moore actually liking a listener’s idea to change football a World Cup for teams outside the top 100 in the world ranking I wanted to let you know that FIFA are actually doing something kind of similar during in the current International break this week sees the

FIFA series taking place oh my God in various places around the world for the first time with six Min tournaments happening between a bunch of unfashionable countries bring on Bolivia versus andur aaban versus Mongolia and guine versus Vanuatu or sit with England versus Brazil and Euro playoffs but hey

At least there’s a four few more options for matches to watch this weekend how about that yeah this is an interesting one FIFA um the FIFA series is a new competition designed to give teams more opportunities to play against opponents from outside their respective confederations so there’s 24 national

Teams involved playing across five different countries all six federations are involved and where the um the the host nations are Algeria aaban Egypt Saudi Arabia a Saudi Arabia B um and Sri Lanka so in Sri Lanka’s group they’ve got Bhutan is not that far away but

Still you know nice to have a bit of local um rivalry in there Central African Republic and Papa New Guinea brilliant bring him on it’s like FIFA have looked at the lower leagues of the UFA Nations league and G oh we want some of that well do you think that the Egypt

One is is quite tasty you’ve got Croatia Egypt New Zealand and Tunisia it’s a strange one that I’m describing that as tasty read Cup group like a weird World Cup group but it does it’s just what the world needs more competitive International Football more competitive football I find strange though Andy in

Saudi Arabia a and Saudi Arabia B um Saudi Arabia aren’t playing really is that why they got Cambodia cap verie Equatorial Guinea um Guyana Bermuda brunai Guinea and vanen why was it there you know why it’s there because it can be there I mean basically we can

Talk about the the ties and the content but it’s not about any of that this is just the FIFA versus UEFA Willy waving contest for which um the general public and the players are paying the bill and is pretty disgusting what a shame well was it um it’s not always disgusting

When you see um two minnow playing each other in a friendly Andy no it’s not but this isn’t what we’re talking about we’re talking about not the actual it’s it’s like the Super League we’re not talking about the tournament itself we’re talking about the right to Brand

Football the right to own football and to hell with the consequences of the people who watch it and play it sure I was trying to segue to San Marina versus S kits okay I’m sorry for [ __ ] on that I’m not that sorry yeah s k s kits

And uh Nas this week yes despite going into the game as favorites San Marino lost oh everyone was really up for this they they thought there was a big chance 137 matches without a win now they do have another bite of the Cherry against sent kits at Divas again but they anger

To the football Gods I mean they did all these interviews and articles going oh we’re going to win for the first time in 10 years why would you do that if sit down you little mugs if you San Marino like you just you can’t possibly have

Any idea of what your level is right and they’ve really Fallen a foul of that there yeah very strange U they do as I say though they’ve got them again so uh was that was that a rematch option if we lose then we IM immediately trigger the

Rematch option I don’t know uh France versus Germany Saturday evening this Summer’s hosts are traveling to leyon to face France the uh the side that are many people’s favorites for the tournament Andy brassel it doesn’t get much bigger than this what I think the interesting thing about France is not

Only uh France and England quite difficult to separate in terms of who’s favorite for the tournament but a lot of the Personnel problems that England have are similar to The Personnel problems that that France have yes at the moment I just think that so basically we might

As well not analyze this let’s just talk about uh Kane Bellingham and bappe and call it a day yeah well I’m I’m glad to hear you say that because I always think about France and I and I mean the the World Cup was Testament to this

Is that they have some some big players injured and then they just s all right okay who’s next and they just kind of slot in it’s form as well so like G South Gare Southgate always gets talked about because of his conservatism in a similar way did De it’s it’s like all

International coaches really they’re all conservative with a small CED to a certain extent and he doesn’t really want to turn over he wants to be Lo people and he’s got his Harry McGuire question if you like because da Pano is really not having a good season for for

B they’ve got a lot of defensive issues as as well so they’re in a similar Place having said that Germany have really need to get their ducks in a row to put even a decent display together at this tournament I mean they’re not winning Euro 2024 they’re definitely not winning

Euro 2024 it’s written off the Germans although in recent years that’s not but the Germans aren’t the Germans definitely not with a capital t and a capital g at the moment I don’t think they would be no um yeah I cuz the thing wasn’t it never right off the Germans

But then of course you know but look what we’re doing is it’s on home soil they want to you know they want to bring back the Feelgood factor of 2006 the the the World Cup that they hosted there not so much of their appointing J and Clansman coach but they didn’t win that

Tournament so Andy’s Point still stands yeah no true but they they are in a they’re in a in a sort of set of doldrums that we’ve not seen Germany in in our in our LIF think that’s fair to say yeah so I I don’t think actually I think Germany can have a successful

Tournament without winning it if that makes sense I think 96 almost no I I I think if they were to replicate that sort of Glorious failure of of um World Cup 2006 everyone would be very happy with that fish’s got a smirk on his face well I was just I mean they did

Win6 I from the English perspective of course yeah yeah um I I find it quite funny that Tony Cruz has come back because I think I feel like players of that ilk when they walk away they walk away like thank you for all your service my work here is done all the things

You’ve accomplished and the idea that they had to you know in some way go back to and be like but we got nothing you you’ve left a Chasm yeah that actually is your fault yeah and you have to come back and film it so Stephan effenberg is on the phone

No yeah he’s probably still banned isn’t he I would think so yeah um everyone’s sake I hope so Jurgen turn on the video on your Zoom for [ __ ] sake one of the other problems for Germany is that there’s been some criticism of their new pink away kit which was revealed last week early

Hernes um has had his say on this he said all these things are nonsense they can even play with a naked torso and something painted on something very very liberal VI vague yeah yeah um yeah a pink away kit is is that would be Germany’s equivalent of what we spoke

About in the yeah I in the England kit I think he’s quite nice yeah it’s a color why are angry at colors well Jim don’t get me stuck started on pink do you know what I mean like literally it what are the acceptable colors now all of them

That you would say that yeah you would wouldn’t he yeah not not at once email in if you got have to give us a color we can tell if can’t stand the color blow yeah I mean obviously Germany are enam it with it enough that they announced uh yesterday that they’re defecting from

Aded as Nike they did didn’t they yeah the um the the advert for the Germany k is brilliant though cuz it it kind of riffs on the typical oh this is a typical German kit the whole adverb go through about all the things that are now typical Germany that are actually a

Typical Germany that kind of stuff is brilliant yeah um well let’s turn our attention to France uh because um ton re said this week about killing mbappe mbappe has already surpassed my legacy but Antoine Griezmann or gasman should I say is by far the most underrated player

Ever ever is Big isn’t it but I I he’s very underrated he is my favorite non vardy footballer um yep antoan Grio man he’s brilliant to watch and he he’s he scores loads of goals he’s you know he’s been very successful um but I think hre

Is right you know I don’t think he’s he’s kind of put in the top bracket of of of world footballers very often and he absolutely belongs there I was going to throw this to you Andy because the thing I’ve been confused about recently is why France are in and maybe it comes

From you know what’s happened in the last couple of tournaments but I don’t understand why suddenly French football is having this Legacy conversation about these players like what is it because like someone like gasman’s coming to the end of his career or generally the generation’s about to move on it’s

Because I think it’s as simple as the fact you’ve got three at the top of the top scorers list of all time so you’ve got Olivia giru and they’re all buzzing around tier onri of course uh Griz man could go up there for a little bit and

You know that mbappe is gonna go past everyone all in time so it’s very unusual to have an all-time top scorers list for a nation where it’s keenly contested by three players at the same time all sort of moving around one of the absolute Legends of the French game

Who’s still very much a pres because of course he’s France under 21 manager talking about on OTC so we’re basically not too far away from a LeBron Michael Jordan situation where they’ll surpass it unequivocally and then Onre will bring out the documentary so everyone be like oh and

Actually he was the best exactly yeah right gentlemen I turn our attention to Scotland they travel to the Netherlands uh they’re playing um this evening uh now get a l this 41-year-old goalkeeper Craig Gordon has been recalled to the squad he’s not appeared for Scotland since November 2022 it’s Pepe esque yeah

He’s not going to play though is he uh yeah that’s true Pepe was involved in Portugal’s 5-2 demolition of Sweden last course he was um but will um Craig Gordon play I don’t know but uh I don’t know sometimes it’s nice to have an older head in there wouldn’t you say

Andy oh well especially if it Pepe’s head um how are the Netherlands looking brass man all right but the interesting thing is the return of Memphis dep pie who’s come back well it’s always interesting did you see the coat he was wearing um because they when they came back into

The Dutch when they came into the Dutch Camp they had the um the new kit in a briefcase and they were all looking through it and he is wearing the most outstanding like brown leather coat he remarkably good really obviously it’s not the most controversial thing he’s

Done this week with his uh public support for uh convicted drug Smuggler uh Quin Quincy prois blim me BL me well to to give Memphis to BU a fair crack of the whip though he did score a crucial goal for Atletico Madrid in their advancement in the Champions I tell you

What he look buff at the moment doesn’t he when does he not I I think it’s because he’s one of those players who’s been out injured for quite a long time and he’s clearly spent all of that time in the gym you know when a player is out

Injured quite a lot and it has a weirdly transformative effect on them a little bit a little bit like Nicola for example he’s always had the sort of gishy thighs isn’t he the pie sort of underrated kind of C monster because he always he always wears really short shorts yeah he’s

Really proud of them well those those tattoos he’s got tattoos on his legs isn’t he everywhere he’s got a very very cute dog as well if Ricardo kisma and memb star had a fight Andy who would you cheer on oh good one is it a free kick

Fight no it’s a fight to um with win my heart yeah yeah yeah exactly who you want to win your oh Ricardo 100% all right I thought kick to the head with the outside of the boat knockout yeah that would be it wouldn’t it uh well okay so um with

Scotland in their sort of current trajectory would you would you fancy them to cause a it would be an upset of course against the Netherlands winless in five so yeah I forgot about that bit of the trajectory that’s good to point out um but no I mean they’re in a fairly sort

Of good good moment this is a good chance for them to test themselves against the better side um now Ronald kumman celebrated his 61st birthday yesterday which is lovely I think we can all agree he said the players sang to me and gave me a nice cap they obviously

Think that I’m at an age where I need to keep my head warm if I could have a perfect late present it would be the Euros on July the 14th but very late him saying he’s going to win the Euro Doral Jor saying Brazil are going to win the World Cup what are

These guys drinking this week well I don’t know Andy but uh but but I think you know on if your birthday is in March mid July the people have forgotten your but too late yeah also like like wishing someone happy New Year now yeah ex yeah totally with with what football has

Earned they had a whip round and they got him a cap oh but you but it could have been a gold cap I didn’t think of that I didn’t think of the gold cap yeah all right I’ll get back in my box a sort of hat FM

Kind of business yeah exactly yeah I I that uh that’s they basically were going they all arriving from around the country all into the same airport and they’re like [ __ ] hell we forgot what we get I don’t know I think um cap in a toer own here you go yeah but they love

A cap inter in International Football so they’re just you know channeling that kind of spirit aren’t they right so it was line around yeah quickly so just grab anything this looks like it’s a commemorative cap of the 1974 yeah they be wearing it on the touch line like

Jack Charon at USA 94 maybe you think he’ll be wearing it so that they don’t get offended that he’s that he doesn’t doesn’t like the present you know like when you get something from someone you you only wear it when they’re around possibly quite possibly McCain Williams

Has been in touch oh we got an email of yeah email toward the end of the show how about that he says hello Ramblers specifically Marcus you’ll see why with European Club football on International break I want to bring to light some news from us Club football the US Open cup

Has started back up this season with a bit of controversy MLS decided to only send a handful of first teams to the tournament despite it being an American footballing tradition that started in 1914 and instead send their development team for example Portland Timbers two here we go for example the plot thickens

On Tuesday night Portland Timbers 2 took the pitch with Harvey Neville in the starting 11 yeah Harvey was sent off for a second yellow in the 53rd minute and Portland Timbers 2 lost 21 to El farito SC an amateur team from San Francisco who are named after a popular burrito

Restaurant in the area would be like if Spurs under 21’s lost to Nando’s FC this is incredible I’ve looked into El farito FC a little bit as I’m sure we all have if we’ve done our own work um and they they are like they are essentially an amateur team and they

They they train a couple of times a week um sometimes they can’t train exactly as they want to because they get to the place they’ve hide and someone else is there they travel around from all over the place train after work but they really really put the work in and if

They they’ve um they’ve been handed a little bit of a present by Al fiza junr ah he’s probably jet lagged youan time distance from you know not distance the time uh zones from Miami to um to up in the Northwest it’s a hike isn’t it it is

It really is Andy they’ve shoved him in there I think it’s bit unfair apparently the AL farito bench were chucking balls onto the pitch towards the end of the game to eat up a bit of time amazing not not burritos it’s Jose they respect the burrito they’re not going to

Throw I suppose the funny thing is a burrito restaurant would probably indulge in less nepotism than Portland Timbers come on well it’s true show some [ __ ] [Laughter] respect right everybody it’s that time again Dean Smith also says you’re an encyclopedia of football oh what an encyclopedia of football I don’t know

What that means well I do Jack it’s now time for Jack’s encyclopedia I’m hosting it’s not a B but it’s an important League match between Jim Vish and Andy pointless abely pointless you’re not pointless you’re very much in the running for the championship but of

Course uh the hero of the day luk Moore is not here so it’s a chance for somebody to gain some ground in the league on me right uh you all know the rules Jack encyclopedia is a game of categories blahy blah blah if you’re too slow Gary Neville will come now um let’s

Let’s it’s a pleasure to welcome Vish um back to uh the Tes there you go in case you’re new to this um and if you’re new to this very welcome and thank you for lasting so long uh unlike Gary eville so uh the first stop talking about him

Orgasming no I won’t constantly always start of the week with this do you remember fizzer on the beach fizzer jizzer more like okay Vish your back in the Jack encyclopedia Arena how do you feel fine orgasmic I should think so first category Andy brassel I want you

To start first so um get your thinking caps on first category this is a lovely one and I’m gutted not to be involved the 22 players that started for both sides in England’s last win over Brazil it ended 2-1 back in February 2013 to Mark the 150th anniversary of the

Football Association Andy brassel off you go Harry Kane it’s a bad start it’s a bad start for brassel way too early for Harry Kane there’s a clue Harry kan’s not involved Wayne Roney Co he was last win over Brazil is the question 2013 Jim two 2-1

England come on oh god I’ve written down a load of players that probably weren’t involved um Joe har love that um Frank Lampard Frankie Lampard please are mate did not play did not play We Didn’t Start he didn’t start Neymar is Neymar the winning answer of

This round it is Jim gets the point you could have had what a round um Adriana career Ashley Cole Chris Smalling Danny Alves Danny Welbeck Dan David Luise Gary kahill Glenn Johnson Jack Wilshire Julio Cesar lisis Fabiano Oscar Paulino Ramirez honalo Steven Gerard Theo Walker or Tom cleverly Steven Gerard I tell you

What I’d love to see G keill play I bet you would you dirty little sausage right V you’re up first now cobby Mayu was of course called up this week he’s 18 years old but which England players have made their debuts 18 years or younger 20 answers and again I’m gutted I’m not

Involved although I did lose on England the other week Vish uh Wayne Rooney second youngest 17 years and three months Jim Campbell um it’s really obvious when you got the answers in front of you I bet it is yeah there’s one I’m hovering around but I

Think it might be a sort of red herring in my own mind um I’m going to say it Theo wott youngest wow yeah Andy so made their debut at 18 specifically made their debut 18 years or younger 18 or younger okay it’s Tores Billy who Billy right Billy

Right Fair guess but wrong one vitan Mich M Lo is a good answer an obvious answer but a good one um Jim Campbell you need Vish to win Andy to stay in the game okay so get behind him I think Andy wants Jim to win cell should be really obvious shouldn’t

It um I’m sure there’s I’m going to go for Gary Neville Gary Neville join very odd Choice well I don’t think it is an odd Choice he started feel very young not young enough though Vish has the point yeah let me go through them Alex oxl Chand Arthur Brown

Colum hudman Ado Clement Mitchell Duncan Edwards Jack Wilshire Jaden Sancho James PRP Jimmy Brown Jude Bellingham Luke Shaw Marcus rashford Mason Greenwood Micah Richards Raheem Sterling Rico Lewis and tot rosten known as tot because he was 5′ six easy when you’ve got the answers in front of you ladies

And gentlemen there’s only a few of those kicking myself over to be honest a look it’s it’s it’s a tough old game people don’t understand what it’s like when you’re in the chair right it’s gym one vishan Andy nil Andy you need this to go to the tiebreaker and I think you

Can get it Jim you’re up first yes give me the host cities not for the Euros but for World Cup 2026 oh Jes um New York yeah New York New Jersey give you that y Los Angeles Los Angeles the city of Angels Philadelphia Philadelphia you can spread it on the

Bread um Mexico City Mexico City of course monay Monteray bit of cheese uh Kansas Kansas City lucky cuz Kansas is a state my friend yeah but you asked for the city I did not the state people will think I’m being leaning there but I’m watching you Jim Toronto Toronto y

Doing very well here chaps he needs it it’s one of two Tes Boston Boston having a tea party Washington DC Washington DC as if the politics would want them there really correct Jim Campbell Seattle Seattle he’s got it Andy to stay in the game and IIM a big win that’s very good

Montreal it’s t Montreal Jim Campbell for and because he’s not here we finally got a winner who’s not luk Mo yes so you could have had Atlanta home of the Olympic Games of course Dallas Dallas guadan thought someone was going to go for guadara Houston where you

Thought someone was going to go for guadalahara yeah because mexic sit and guadara the two famous venues yeah okay fine Washington DC not a famous city in America then not when it comes to football [ __ ] um they have a football team Houston where unlike fish they don’t have a problem at Miami the

Home of football and San Francisco there we are everybody San Francisco the home of football yeah Jim is the winner Vish is the loser and you get a commemorative mug um thank you very much for listening to the Football Ramble preview Show sponsored by bet Fair part of the aast Creator Network do

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