OG ACCT: North Carolina and NC State title tilt set after wild Friday night in DC

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It was a wild Friday night. Ovies and Giglio still don’t know how NC State pulled out that win over Virginia. And oh yeah, North Carolina is locked in after a tough as nails win over Pitt. All that sets up for a “last call for basketball” between ACC OGs…

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Play the lonell shot and we’re live Again Joe sir the hell was that I don’t I’ve never seen NC State win a game like that before with a little bit of a miracle shot fluky shot bank shot from Michael oconnell with quite frankly an old recipe there the fouls cuz Virginia inexplicably while they’re sitting there

Dotting threes can’t make free throws they can’t it’s the strangest thing they’re not a bad shooting team and now you were you were but they’re a bad free throw shooting team you were preaching that on on press row and with about 30 seconds left in regulation you’re like

Foul you want a foul now they ended up missing the three um and Kevin Keat wisely calls a timeout they try to draw something up Virginia’s defense was relentless NC State looked like they were shook a lot of ways the fact that they even fought back to that point was impressive

Because I there was a moment there early where it looked pretty evident that state was just gassed and not just DJ Burns who didn’t go didn’t go for a rebound he was quickly brought out they bring midd middle Brooks back in and then there was a sequence where NC State

Wanted a foul didn’t get it Virginia then dot to three NC State goes to the other end with an empty possession kind of a tired leg shot with Virginia’s perimeter defense being what it was and then they go back down the was it mcney goes back down the court it hits another

Three and I’m thinking okay well get it they Valiant effort man Valiant shame no shame I’m thinking about how to talk about it whatever but State you know as has been evidenced at moments this season clearly here in Washington DC they have not quit uh they found

Something else in the tank that I think a lot of people did not think they had I saw UVA fans walking out of here thinking they had the win which is not exactly a commit to the end of the clock bit that Virginia fans love remember they cheer shot clock violations but

Then you know after that sequence after the timeout and the play and they looked a little off sorts and again credit to Virginia’s defense and they don’t get a real good shot off in that situation I thought the game was was over so this is where your this is where your free throw

Shooting situation comes into play they do put Virginia on the line and what happens Joe he misses yeah and gives them a chance to tie the game put into over time um I listen there’s a lot of things to talk about from this game and

If you if you want to start diving into them right now we can starting with starting with Tony Bennett made his bones as a defensive coach yes and one of the tenants of his defensive principles is to double the post so why in 2024 he was allowing DJ Burns at the end

Of that game to go one-on-one is completely and totally beyond me all right that’s bad that’s a bad strategy from a smart coach and then what happened in overtime in overtime they just kept going to him like the thing about Virginia is and I want here I just

Said that was a bad strategy B but I want to be some I want to be clear about something I saw Virginia in Raleigh on January 6th and they were garbage garbage and they figured out a way to play basketball the exact way that they need to play basketball to get to the

Point where I do believe they will make dcaa tournament that is a complete and total credit to Tony given that roster and and the restraints of that roster and the shortcomings of that roster okay but for state to turn this thing around just for a second here because the way

That they won the game you realize NC State played 31 games in the regular season Joe Michael oconnell had that means Michael oconnell had 30 chances to score in double digits in consecutive games he did not once during the regular season scor in double digits in consecutive games he somehow gets to DC

And he looks like Cory kispert all of a sudden he scores 16 against Louisville 16 against Syracuse 12 against Duke and now 12 against UVA all in the process of making uh eight three-pointers in these four games and all of them have been huge yeah the contributions from

Everyone have been huge DJ horn you know Reese Beakman’s a really good uh Defender struggled a little bit today that that’s to be expected if you’re NC State but you cannot say enough good things about the way State kind of brother-in-law this thing if I told you

That burns only had 19 it felt like he had 40 it felt like he had half of States points yeah truth is he only had 19 about Tony Bennett and some of the things that were going on but before we get to ton just real quick yeah I have

Been critical of DJ Burns and and why this team put itself in a position at the end of the regular season a lot of that was on DJ Burns he was overtime and now when we’ve seen him play here again talking about being effective it’s not just him it’s oconnell it’s horn it’s

Taylor it’s Casey morcel it’s all of them and that’s what they thought they were going to be at the beginning of the year and for whatever reason all of them we’ve detailed before that’s not who they were during the regular season but who they are right now is a very

Dangerous team because they’re desperate they’re playing with urgency and they’re hungry we’re now calling this the duh system how long did you Workshop that I I didn’t I didn’t our friend Aaron beard after I tweeted desperate urgency hunger got to have all three duh look I mean I

I don’t I don’t see it tomorrow foren state but that’s the conversation that we I mean it’s already Saturday so I mean we could have it later Saturday if you want to I’m I’m more fascinated by the fact that NC State found another gear that as Gast as DJ burn looked he

Was overtime and getting to the fighting through because we talked about this a lot with DJ Burns they’ve only had two years to figure out how to officiate them and they still don’t okay and NC State also overcame some things that would have cost them in the end because

Of the classic NC State [ __ ] Motif right there was a sequence there where I’m shocked that they did not go to the monitor they love going to the monitor I mean they love going to the monitor at the ACCC tournament or just in ACC basketball and they didn’t go to the

Monitor for that tip in for Virginia they’re late and then on the other sequence they Roger AES was insistent no shot for DJ burns on a shot that went in I’m like whoa okay what’s going on here again those are the typical things that NC State fans were accustomed to seeing

Going all right well all hell is gonna break loose same with that final shot that shot doesn’t go in but Michael oconnell had a beautiful Arc this entire week and that thing I know but I mean it was just like a chance gave a chance and it and it

Banked in and look I we ended up kind in the background shout out to all the listeners who will tag us on Twitter uh because of the way that the camera angles are working apparently behind that bench there’s an ESPN angle when they highlight the coach yeah right and

Typically you know you’ll you’ll you’ll get a glimpse of us and the the Michel Connell shot which I’m gonna turn the volume down so that you know the the YouTube police maybe don’t get us but on the final shot of uh of this of the of the of of

Regulation sorry I’m tired let’s let’s you could see me clapping slowly and laughing and Joe you stand up uh one of our listeners Matt decided to isolate this a little bit more he’s like yep first thing I saw on the replay were you two guys and your

Reaction and there’s really only one way to describe this you know what’s happening with you and me that was the anti uh Tay right like I’m like that never goes in for NCC right right like yeah you you stood up because you’re going am I witnessing law of the

Wolf in real time like this and of course I react if if people have not seen me watching a game in person I typically laugh at things because it’s all amusing in the in the grand scheme of things it’s entertainment and that was a pretty entertaining ending uh when

It was all said and done and that that’s why I reacted the way that I reacted he’s like come on man like are you serious like how could you not react when you see something like that I how could you I’ve seen you know Chandler Parsons

Hit that shot from deeper SE all of these other shots go in not that you know it kind of reminded me state in 2012 makes the sweet 16 and they run a play at the end of that game to try to get a three to Scott Wood instead

Richard how ends up taking the shot it hits the Rim Yeah excuse me but it was like that’s what usually happens you get a good look and you’re like oh man if if only that went in this is the first time in 30 years that NC State doesn’t get a

If only that went in moment never forget an Anthony Grundy Bank in against UNCC Greensboro several years ago that happened several several it might have been it might have been 2001 same Stakes Joe same Stakes just never forget don’t tell me it doesn’t happen I witnessed it

Okay don’t tell me it never happens anyway uh some of the some of the comments Beverly yeah it was a regular season game though against that’s true from Charlie love ACC basketball what a fun evening yes it was an it was absolutely fun evening Charlie also

Wants to make sure you get some coffee and liquor in you soon yeah uh from our guy Kevin over at Sweetwater Gary hon DJ Burns is a man that’s what he said in OT yeah he was a man again he dug deep and found another gear that I was not uh quite expecting

In overtime from the can the ovious slow cloud like I said guys like I’m just I’m in the moment man when stuff like that happens in real time in front of you that’s what look I’ve said this before if I cannot find enjoyment and wonder at live sporting events like

Tonight if I can’t find that anymore then I should no longer be doing this yeah so the fact that that is the reaction that tells you yeah we should probably be doing this and then here’s Eric shame on Tony Bennett for not folling up three with under five seconds

To go this is the amazing plot twist of the night that I wanted to get to because typically in games like like this it’s what’s Kevin doing why can’t he do this this is terrible this is why blah blah blah blah blah plot twist it’s Tony Bennett who’s the coach tonight

That people are second guessing and wondering what the hell he was thinking and where he had a brain fart at the end of that game it’s a as if the game ended before the Alex oconnell shot because Virginia was shook after that they just did not recover well and neither did

Tony Bennett I was surprised by the way they handled the fouowing up three situation at the end I was surprised by that um I apparently that’s his pattern that he doesn’t do that I don’t care yeah I don’t care you know sometimes you got to you know in the moment you might

Want to change your uh you might want to change it uh let’s see what else we else oh where was it where was it where was it as we’re doing this Live on YouTube I’m going through the comment section but I wanted to point this out as it

Relates to gambling and I do think there’s finally a connection they are 4 and0 since gambling has gone legal in the state of North Carolina and here well you would have lost money on Fading them tonight you were happy about it but from be yeah BK Ron 4 and0 since betting

Was made legal go pack and again this is all based on what it’s all based on what oh State fans are convinced their emotional hedge is at least part of the reason that the team is making the run that they are from Evan State plus two and a half turned from heartbreak into

Elation so there you go oh you’re doing it wrong though if you took State what’s what’s that you have to go the other way you have to take the other team that’s how you emotionally Edge H okay okay okay so let’s let’s see this is from uh zash serious question does this

Tournament run confirm roster mismanagement by Keats or is it March mag magic middle Brooks oconnell diara have exploded in this tournament okay listen I just told you a stat if you’re maybe you put it up before I gave you the stat yeah you can’t lucidly expect a player who’s never scored in double

Digits in consecutive games to do that in four consecutive games so it’s not roster mismanagement again what they wanted Michael oconnell to be was somebody who didn’t make mistakes who was an older player who likely would feed DJ Burns in the post that would be part of his role right so what oconnell

Has done they’ve bring been bringing horn off of the bench because of his hip and because they keep winning and you don’t change things when you win that’s not what you do so don’t don’t do this with the roster mismanagement particularly when and in the second half of this game as he did

Against Notre Dame when they beat him earlier in the year as he did against Clemson down the stretch in the game that they won there he rests DJ with with about eight minutes to about four minutes yeah so that he can close the game he can finish the game and I think

You saw him do that today yeah yeah I I I think it’s because here’s another here’s another comment from C Smith 84 said a few weeks ago about Keats that he bought the puzzle he just couldn’t put it together it’s not all that dissimilar SAR to what we talked about uh about

Duke and John Shire here here are all these ingredients that sound pretty good why why does it not taste as well that was the comment that you made yesterday and I do think that I think Keats talked about this this week and all this stuff is running together as these kns kind of

Go on and on and on where Keats to talk about transfers and acclimating and getting used to everything and sometimes it takes a little bit longer to cook and this is something that we’ve consistently talked about in the past how do you get pieces from the outside

To come in with freshman and make them work guys that have been there have understood their roles how do you get them to work with this new guy sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t right uh sometimes you hit in the portal sometimes you don’t you do have to allow

For teams to kind of come around I don’t think it takes away from the conversation you and I had post Clemson okay when you find yourself in the great game after beating Clemson and even Kevin this is why Kevin ke was so mad after that Syracuse game is because they

Put themselves back in the mix and that was the response at that point it’s almost like it’s kind of like me rolling my eyes over the Duke comments as of late where they’re going to have like this team meeting and they’re going to do some soul searching y’all that’s the

Kind of stuff that you do after you lose to Carolina before you go to the ACC tournament not after this like when it’s actual real time so um some of this stuff comes together some of this stuff doesn’t uh from Paul my NC State wife refuses to watch the title game with me

And my Tar Hill Family why can’t you just watch as a family if Roy Williams and Joe jilo can Bond over golf balls why can’t a husband and wife be okay watching this game so Roy’s been sitting right behind the scores table I haven’t had a chance to catch up with him until

The halftime of of the Carolina’s went over pit and I said to him hey uh I texted you during the state game and you had because he had this amazing Argyle Sweater on and it was like yellow and it wasn’t really it was like orange maybe

There was no like Carolina blue in it and I was like that sweater is amazing but you need more red so when I saw him I said hey I texted you he goes oh I saw it I ignored it I said I said well now and people want

To come up and take pictures with him so I said oh Roy I’m just going to stand here and do this while people take pictures and he goes you think you’re the only one who asked me to do that he goes I can all these people come up they

Want me to do that I know he’s like I W he’s like I told him and he swore he’s I get that [ __ ] out of here and that’s where you took the picture of me laughing if people want the answer to what was actually said no I wanted the

Wrong answers only although uh I think beer can and turn four had the the right answer and that was can I get your sweater or can I have a sweater like that no I did I I know you want one of those yeah uh from Howard does NC State

Play in the first four after this run barring a loss maybe asking with rosecolor glasses on where Patrick was n Patrick Patrick was roaming around but I guess we could have asked him but I don’t I don’t see that no they they need to win and if you remember a couple

Years ago when Georgia Tech won they were absur seated absurdly low yeah as the ACC Champion which NC State would be in this case as a well if they were to find a way to win the game uh from Nathan is State cooked probably that was

A tweet that I had put out there mean I said hey I said probably I thought it I thought it was over also this is look it was it was 5346 after mcney made yeah his fifth three and there’s only four minutes left in the game and state did

Visibly look tired this is something that you and I occasionally deal with as we’re reacting to things in real time and just kind of offering our opinions on what we see okay yeah especially when we’re here just be don’t get on my ass this is all I ask I’m gonna look at the

Camera when I talk about this don’t get on my ass for saying something out loud that you were probably saying while watching okay just that’s the thing that always bothers me always bothers me 99% of people watching that game if you’re a State fan you’re watching that game and

You’re going yep it’s a WAP hey good fight good effort they’re cooked they’re gased okay I saw the same thing too and in that moment I’m like yeah man they look like they’re done they’ve run out of gas lot of other people thought that but I’m impressed that’s you know that’s

Why when the Alex oconnell shot went or the Michael oconnell shot went in I always say Alex oconnell I don’t know why he hasn’t left my heart from duke so you’re the only one who remembers I know it was it was the tattoo did they go to

Katon yeah he went to kraton yeah so anyway so when when the the oconnell shot went in yeah man that’s why people react the way that they did because it’s like holy [ __ ] I can’t believe what I just saw all right so look yes did I

Think they were cooked yeah about 99% of other people thought they were cooked I’m not goingon to apologize for that a couple things I actually told this to Roy at halftime ago you know you won your first ACC title against State maybe yubert can win his first ACC title

Against State and that could be the case um the last time State went was 07 it was in Tampa they played four games in four days they lost to Carolina a really good Carolina team ran out of gas yeah 97 they became the first team to win

Four games in four days excuse me play four games in four days lost to Shaman William Williams and Carolina 97 Dean Smith’s last ACCC title coming against NC State and now NC State tries to become they already are the first team who will play five games in five days in

The ACC tournament yeah so they will now try to win their 11 ACC Title First since 1987 when they won and beat Carolina in Landover all right Nathan you were kidding I apologize it’s late I’m tired you’re not the only person who’s made that comment so that’s why I

Was like y’all but Nathan shoot me an email the ogit what’s our email now the ogos digital gmail.com Nathan email me okay I’ll send you something as an apology uh uh let’s see let’s see let’s see what else we have here in the in the uh live

Uh the Youtube comments here so let’s see let’s see let’s see let’s see from Ryan the only mismanagement was not playing mo more all year he’s a glue guy uh any good teams Gotta Have I I get where that’s coming from I think they handled modara probably as best they

Could because there were some moments earlier in the season that modara had no business being on the court because he was a bit of a liability that’s a credit to him for making himself as valuable as he’s made himself here down the stretch but I remember some early season games

And I know you were high on modr earlier in the year but there were some moments where he just kind of was overmatched especially defensively he played 20 minutes a game this year like you have middle Brooks and Dr were bought in again I can’t stress this enough the way

The team is playing here in Washington save for the first 10 minutes against Louisville is the way that the team was constructed to play MH it just didn’t do this for stretches other than the first half against Carolina in the game at Clemson this was what the team was

Supposed to be and and the home win over Big Forest if we’re being honest as well this was what the team was supposed to be and that how why they’ve figured it out why they’ve played with the desperation that they have and the urgency that they have why it’s worked

For them now I cannot explain that to you other than what I would say to you is DJ Burns everyone last year was in love with DJ Burns quite frankly he hasn’t had those moments this year until he’s gotten here now he has to get over the final hurdle when he plays Carolina

And Armando Bott tomorrow I mean there there’s that’s the thing that I would be concerned about not being tired tomorrow it’s that we’ve already know that NC State can play its best its best 20 minutes we’re in Chapel Hill two weeks ago they still lost the game because

Because Carolina defensively is you know it’s a horses for courses situation it is it is about about North Carolina to transition to what we saw against pit my immediate takeaway both both games were entertaining as hell yeah both games are entertaining prop the pit fans I know they’ve been to ACC football

Championship games and won the ACC football championship great crowd this felt like oh [ __ ] pit is really in the ACC moment to me yeah because their fans it’s the location this is an event in DC that’s about four hours from them yes they showed out look this is this is a

I’ve said it before on other live podcast the DC is a great location for the ACC tournament Gary Williams whining aside they should probably have it here more often I get why it’s going to be back in North Carolina for the foreseeable future we can table that

Conversation but pit to pit to me that was a tough ass game between two tough teams and my takeaway from North Carolina it’s funny because my brother had texted me he he had texted me something sarcastic uh while North Carolina was kind of struggling through

It and um what let me see if I can pull up my uh let me see if I can pull my brother’s text and I’ll answer this question while we’re there yeah from Jonathan who are the zebras tomorrow we’re looking at a bill Covington Jamie lucky we believe is

Retiring and will be given this game tomorrow that’s not words that State fans want to hear um so we’ll see who the third official is I don’t know you just keep in mind Roger aers worked this game we saw um Ron Grover earlier and Teddy Valentine that means they can’t

They will not work the final gotcha uh so we do know by process of elimination who the guys will I want to say a little bit something about the officiating cu saw Brian KY this afternoon leaving the H we we were on the streets there on

What are we on EG we are on we walking down G to get here either way I saw I saw curse we were talking um because I asked him about the technical last night and why that wasn’t Duke’s ball he explained the rule to me the whole thing and I said to

Him I said I feel like your crew has done any better your crew the ACC guys have done a better job this year of letting teams play okay and I think the game has been more physical across the board in the ACC the flopping they call less charges there there’s been a

Consistent effort in my opinion to let teams play sure now what I will say about today’s crew that I did not think was good for the game you had Tony Henderson who basically refused to blow his whistle AJ Dei a little bit less and then you have the captain in Roger AES

Kind of coming in and trying to clean everything up and and for people who don’t like Roger AES he’s actually I mean Ron Grover is probably going to be graded as their highest best official but Roger aers is right there with him so I actually appreciated what a did

Today in this game but I also you there’s no other way to look at it that Virginia literally fouls on every possession because their premise is they won’t call all of them right and it’s actually a really smart strategy if you think about it so that can be frustrating if you’re watching it

Because they they get away with a lot of contact as I’ve said before and one of our listeners so ad jointly did the homework for me and pointed out uh free throw attempts and fouls that are called at home for Virginia as opposed to when they’re not at John Paul Jones Arena but

I I did not like that Roger had to do everything in the ACC semi-finals should not be that type of crew where you have that type of weak link that Tony Henderson was tonight yeah so I I don’t like that but I do I will say I

Appreciated the way that Roger tried to steer the [ __ ] and I thought a couple times he comes over he did where Kevin wanted a foul didn’t get it or or a call was made and he just cuz I think Henderson was actually gonna tee him up

Yeah and and Roger just came over and said he goes Kevin stop yes he even held up like the stop sign like he was a crossing guard yes he goes Kevin stop somebody had to be the adult yeah and he was he was the and that’s that’s why you

Know a lot of people get on Roger A’s ass about this kind of stuff he is a very good official yeah knows the rep he has the repertoire I thought he did a nice job in this game the Rapport I should say with with these coaches um

We’ll get back to State here in a second by the way I noticed we got about like 700 people watching on YouTube live right now if you hit a like just hit the like it helps us out yeah interact interact the comments do help the comments that stuff and I I we’ll get

Back to the comments here in a little bit but I wanted to read this text from my brother he texted me at 8:16 yesterday it’s funny uh he does the s the sarcasm font UNCC is hungry and I was like Pit’s good dude like what are

We talking like that’s that should be a tournament team Pit’s good he’s like well you made it sound like UNCC was just going to be unstoppable and even my own brother Falls victim to like what did you hear when you heard me talking about North Carolina yesterday after

They whopped on uh on Florida State the point that I’m making with Carolina and what I’ve been saying about North Carolina over the last couple of weeks is that there is not a toughness question about this group they can find different muddier ways to win I thought

Tonight in what was going to be a physical game What’s going to be a defensive game ended up being true especially with Harrison Ingram who did a wonderful job on Blake Hinson and that pit was up Blake Hinson had zero points Blake Hinson didn’t really get into oh

Real quick I just need a simple yes or no because somebody so so Patrick Stevens of the Washington Post just walked in to say bye but we do have a bracket ology question for you so come over here real quick I’m GNA hand you the mic in a second just for a simple

Yes or no State getting to the championship no chance they’re in the NCAA tournament right no no no okay they have to win if they win what kind of seed would they be well remember Virginia Tech a couple years ago as a seven seed here was an 11 seed in the

NCA tournament that’s about where NC State would land so as 10 or 11 okay thanks you have a safe trip back yes see you fell tomorrow all right see well you’ll see me tomorrow you’ll see Joe I have previous family obligations safe travels I will have safe travels yeah so a little

Programming note I am going home tomorrow Joe is sticking around the original plan was for us to leave tomorrow morning you know anticipating maybe just a local we were not anticipating a state Carolina championship game in Washington DC as somebody pointed out yall keep saying it

Feels like 1987 no it feels like 2007 which a little bit a little bit like that a little bit like that uh so we’ll be doing an we’ll be doing a show after the game tomorrow I’ll just be doing it back from the home base Joe you’re GNA

Be here with the equipment uh and doing it from the broadcast bunker on uh u in the Capitol One Center but back to North Carolina really quick I forgot who we were which basketball analysts were we talking to earlier and they basically talked about whether or not North Carolina had a

Level of like grimness to them right it was Josh passner it was Josh passner thank you thank you thank you I couldn’t remember who it was we were talking to and he he wondered and and Josh is usually like the UNC Whisperer and when he said that Carolina didn’t have a a

Grimness to him I pushed back on that because based on what I had seen from North Carolina all year up until that point they showed flashes of it you don’t get from the January hot streak where you played like you did defensively come out of a little bit of

A trough and tough it out the way that they did without having an element of that they won some games that they probably could have lost last year and we talked about those confidence Builders you know beating pit beating Virginia they weren’t the prettiest games but they still found ways to do it

That showed me a hell of a lot more about this North Carolina Squad so tonight against pit was further further proof that this is a team that wants to win this tournament and also is letting everybody know what it’s about they’re letting themselves know what it’s about

They’re locked in man I I I locked in gets used a lot you and I were actually joking about this earlier like I know when my 15-year-old says he’s locked in he’s very much not locked in yeah I’m like oh okay no you’re not locked in no Carolina’s locked in and just because

They they looked great against Florida State they took Florida State’s soul but tonight’s game against pit was going to be a hell of a much more difficult contest because Jeff capable does a hell of a job with that group they got some dudes and I thought Harrison Ingram was

Easily the player of the game I know that Armando Bon on RJ Davis finally got going late but the way Harrison Ingram kept them defensively in a position where Blake Hinson could never activate man that said a lot I like the way Carolina played tonight same same and we

Know we talked to uh their assistant coaches and clink walney after the game and just said you know these guys they have a different mentality and uh than a typical Carolina team I just want to answer this question from will real quick Has any team won a conference tournament with five consec consecutive

Wins yes Yukon did it in 2011 uh at the Big East tournament then actually went on to win the national championship the same year MH um so that’s that’s a one notable one there there may have been others where there’s been uh five and five but uh that was that one and then

The other one I wanted to look for was this one from Stevie B that that was my reaction that shot never goes in right ever not for state so that’s why that’s why you looked the way that you looked in that um in that video that was on uh

Well plus the bench was getting up yeah so like I couldn’t see yeah there was that too what was going on what and I I mean I saw the ball come out of ok connell’s hand and I saw it bank but I couldn’t see quite see the reaction to

Everything too so yeah so the um I’m trying to see again we’re do doing this all kind of live on on YouTube right now shout out to Aaron shout out to Aaron over at sound off uh who oh wait a minute what did I do did I you just

Kicked hold on a second your second camera experience I’m having a terrible time here aren’t I my God I don’t even think you’ve been drinking no I’m just tired this is what happens when I get tired I just get Loy again one more time here people yeah beating Clemson on a

Random [ __ ] Tuesday is not hitting a 25 foot bank shot to put you in the NC the ACC final for the first time in since 07 okay holy smokes so Aaron over at sound off they help out and shout out to Anna who helped out with our Graphics does

Our graphics and she did a great job with our slide for uh for the ACC tournament uh he just pulled a straight screen grab of you standing up what are you looking at by the way by that point I’m looking at the board okay because I

I mean I wanted to see if it counted again I was waiting for there to be a mystery review or some sort of like he stepped out of bounds or something stupid I’m I was there in 97 when they went on the run that was my senior year at State

Okay okay and I was thinking Oh They’ll they’ll be back you know then they go back in 02 and you’re like oh then they get killed by Duke and then the thing happens in 03 where reck becomes JJ reck and you’re thinking oh okay well maybe

They’ll get another one and then Sid in his first year right but yeah as love loves the cover to says you were waiting for the law of the wolf to take effect that’s why you up believe it that that’s that is the again it’s the anti- J

Wright like J Wright was Mr cool I was like what just happened that was my exact reaction that really just happened yeah from uh from blind lemon jello going back to the UNC pit game pit is a dangerous Squad but Carolina really is about this work agree UNCC has a clear

Goal no doubt and that’s the thing and Arizona lost today too they’re trying to get that one I’ve been trying to tell people for however however many weeks that Carolina should be the number one seed I’m glad that it played out the way that it did Carolina does not need to

Win tomorrow to be the number one seed period Tennessee lost their opening game in the conference tournament and Arizona lost to another dog [ __ ] Pack 12 team because they’re all terrible okay so I think there’s another clip here this is oh shout out to Mark Armstrong who um

See there’s other people were reacting too there’s Cory Cory Cory lost it right there man I I didn’t see this I mean obviously you and I were was like laughing in the situation but I mean we’re talking hugs all that stuff look man Vash Tai has a good one there too

She’s like what where’s V oh there we go right next to Corey that’s right that’s right because when I was laughing clapping back she did did turn back she’s like what in the world again these things don’t happen to NC State no they don’t they definitely don’t so uh about tomorrow about

Tomorrow um I don’t think that that NC State is going to win I think for a variety of reasons I think mostly it has to do with the fact that Carolina is locked in Carolina’s on this Mission I do think that at some point the fatigue

Is going to kick in for this state Squad it’s hard enough to win three in a row certainly was hard enough to win four in a row now you are trying to win five in a row against a team that is a final four Contender that’s a tough one man

And and and if they lose to Carolina yeah it’s GNA I understand that State fans are going to be mad because you’re losing to Carolina everything else and you’ll hear from Carolina fans but I don’t think in any way shape or form takes away from the entire week that

We’ve seen that of NC State it’s been a fun week man which way you want me to play this however you want to play it dude what’s NC State’s record since Theo Pinson ran his mouth maybe just maybe hear me out all of these Carolina and Duke and

Virginia and all these other fans of all these other schools certainly have the qu can certainly have the conversation in in rooms in back rooms and to themselves and in their group chats yeah what the [ __ ] has NC State ever won what have those [ __ ] ever done every

Year it’s going to be your year it’s never your year yeah those were the words that came out of his mouth yes pretty sure since then they’ve won four basketball games I don’t know one of them extremely unlikely one of them ex extremely unlikely now it could just be

He knows he knows he knew the script yeah that tomorrow it ends it could just be that that that’s that that’s all it could be but maybe maybe all state needed after all of these years yeah they just needed someone to articulate it in the way that he did maybe you know

You might be honest something instead of instead of State fans being the ones saying it’s our year yeah plus also my gosh uh at the risk of uh [ __ ] where I eat here State fans where you at what do you mean I there was there were a lot

Of Virginia fans here today yeah there were a lot of Carolina fans here today okay I’m glad there were a lot of pit fans here today I’m glad you brought that up because DJ Burns talked about this yesterday after they um no In fairness I will say there are I know a

Number of stay fans who are thinking to themselves if they’ve won these four games without me being in the building there’s not a single chance of my life of me showing up in that building to to change the Mojo So I I do get that part

Yeah but I mean it was it was noticeable today that the lack of red in the building was was very noticeable so I think so a couple things to that right and now maybe I’m work shopping this live yesterday they beat Duke and DJ Burns pointed out that they weren’t

Cheering for us no they were cheer cheering against Duke they were cheering against Duke yeah he’s like this this this let’s call it what it is we know who they’re rooting for it won it wasn’t for us right and I think I think that that’s actually kind of helped with NC

State and the kind of attitude they’ve taken throughout the NCAA tournament including you know beheim calling out the three goggles and what have you won in the last 40 years all that stuff you notice that Kevin Keat last night put up the three goggles in the in the postgame

Press conference uh shout out to my guy Chris who actually had texted that to me uh this morning when he was like I don’t think I’ve seen this screen grab anywhere so just so you know I think Keats is even in on the joke too I don’t

Have time to pull it up on the uh on the streamyard but that’s Keith’s doing the three goggles breaking te put out a shirt with the three goggles right and including why not us so there’s a little element there of um like oh I’m sorry we’re still here I respect that and if

That’s what they want to pick up on we’ll see how far I can carry them tomorrow against North or later to day against North Carolina let’s see uh see let’s see let’s see let’s see from from Nathaniel jilo if you can get me ob’s media pass I’ll be up there tomorrow

That’s fine you know if you look like me if you’re a balding soon to be 45y old with a gray beard and a sweet dadbod hey man I’ll give you my press pass how are they gonna be able to tell the difference the only requirement is You

Gotta Wear plaid that’s it in fact I actually thought about that Mitch North is just hanging out and he’s a wonderful photographer and I did notice this in the picture that he took of you me and Roy Williams uh at halftime it’s almost like you did not understand the

Assignment Joe no no Stripes no pattern just I mean there’s like a fuzz there a TV end of night fuzz yeah yeah but look if you are somebody who looks just like me from the back okay and you have a shacket you have a shacket you got the

Skin yamak on top and uh the beard and the and the glasses then yeah you can have my press pass that’s fine we can make that we can make that work maybe so anyway Roy Williams dresses like he lost no Roy Williams dresses like a retiree who enjoys golf he dresses like someone

Who’s got a contract with Peter Mar I would [ __ ] kill for that contract are you kidding me from clay UNC fan state looks just as locked in as us slightly less talented I was cheering for state today won’t be tomorrow obviously yeah that makes a lot of sense in fact

Uh Corey from PackPride actually had pointed this out I missed it but he said like after DJ Burns went strong to the rim got the an one that a Carolina fan was like fist pumping and like cheering him on and things like that and I was

Like yeah this is like a classic this is what makes this is what makes the ACC tournament unique this is what makes the area unique yeah this is what makes it fun that yes in this moment you can still using that present tense what makes makes I don’t know how much longer

It’s going to last I’m just saying okay and that’s a point that’s a point of contention we got a little Alpha and Omega going on here what are you saying you this this do this get to your last call for basketball here last call for basketball Alpha in the Omega as it was

In the beginning it shall be in the end okay I don’t need to tell you who won the first ACC title all right all right they beat Wake Forest though they did not beat Carolina oh geez you really are feeling that law the wolf in this

Chili’s tonight aren’t you you got to be careful with that uh from the Yeezy Chung Yeezy like halim I saw him um I also saw hang with John Nunley yeah Mr Nunley and um I just made like the way the game was going I’m like

First to 69 wins this one shout out to Tate Frasier race to 69 here we go ch’s just like dude nobody’s getting to 69 tonight so mind you it did take to get to overtime but when it was 69 before NC State hit their winning free throws I

Did yell at him and I’m like look at the scoreboard he looks up he goes God damn it you were right there’s so many 70s references to me today like I I I don’t know what I did to I don’t know what I did to hurt you people like the

[ __ ] on Twitter was like you look like be Arthur like what dam man you do need a haircut but that’s fine but like yeah on one hand I respect that you pulled like mod out of your ass but I mean come on man if you’re going to compare me to a Golden Girl

Like [ __ ] I’ll take I’ll take Sophia over be Arthur from Bob agre no UNC fans want to watch UVA in person uh playing basketball again yeah that that is that but we also miss one of the all-time great gambling moments in in history by not being able to put all of the OG

Taxes on Carolina tomorrow against that extremely pedestrian Virginia team from William jilo kind of looks like Kevin Crome less successful brother so I’m I’m gonna have to pull up that reference I’m gonna have to pull up that reference okay is it from the 70s because apparently that’s all I’ve got uh what

Do we got here from Alex J looks like a Scarface Miami Vibes that’s trueu man put that back in your mouth man you look like a lizard you look like a lizard man uh NC State should be in dating regardless but tomorrow feels like Destiny what a game oh man I can

Feel it I can see people getting locked up on this one I can feel people get locked up the hope that kills you un if Justin UNC has locked up the one seat as well they know they they know that now going to that game given the results I I

Think they just want to keep keep it locked in first of all they haven’t won the ACC title since 2016 yes that’s enough for your coach to want to do that so I look like I got kicked out of bartending school all right all right all right from David oia looks

Like a guy in Miami Vice holding the uzi who gets shot first when the drug deal goes bad yeah yeah that’s accurate it’s pretty good that that that is accurate that is accurate all I think we’re running out of steam here uh for a little OG after dark as we approach do

We need to do heads one o’clock this is this is an OG special yeah don’t we don’t need to do anything okay we’ll give shouts to Hometown realy though because they are helping us this week yes yes Hometown realy has helped us this week to make this uh make this ACC

Tournament action fun we will again if you’re just kind of tuning in we will be doing another show tomorrow night night can you at two brute wow Schneider you look like cigarettes rolled up in the ouch ouch and Justin I have not seen the picture of Jim Phillips commissioner of

The ACC shocked by oconnell shot I have not seen that one yet I have not seen one that and uh from 400 bones call me at Carolina fan that doesn’t feel like any shade your decks your pack who cares you guys make it fun we appreciate that

Glad I and we’ll close it on that I’m glad that y’all understand and kind of to steal a phrase from Dan lebatard you get the show so we appreciate that uh sometimes I have to remind myself that a lot of people do get the show and I do appreciate that so quick programming

Note for tomorrow Joe will be here in DC I’m going home but we are still doing an OG after dark immediately following that game I’ll be back in the home base Joe will be here in the broadcast bunker and you crashing at Ethan’s probably yeah

And yes Ryan Keats is going to be the NC State’s basketball coach next year not unless miles gets him another job yeah I don’t yeah I don’t see that happening it’s it’s fine it’s fine I mean honestly as somebody who has said you know what maybe it’s time for a change I

Mean I’m not going to back off of that but after this week hey man Kevin Keat earned it I mean I really don’t I don’t know how else to put it he earned it straight up so um give him another shot hopefully you know lessons learn this is another Lessons Learned kind of

Situation what are you laughing at now the the comments are oh the comments are going people are people are pumped up they’re fired up man they’re fired up it’s late T night they’ve been drinking couple people already pointed out that they’re Bo ran the house my beard gang

Shirts yes yes get up here get up here wear the wear that beard gang shirt for sure anyway I don’t know how this is gonna sound in podcast form but it was a hell of a lot of fun on YouTube I’m glad we’ve been able to do this that is going

To wrap it up for this OG after dark we will see you tomorrow evening following the NC State North Carolina ACC Championship Joe it is the last call for basketball basketball the ACC is never gonna be the same after tomorrow night in basketball so enjoy it you couldn’t have asked for a

Better situation uh for us in the Triangle we will see you tomorrow