Tyler Tamboline (ToeTagginTambo) and Mike Petta (hoop2410) break down the 2024 Valspar Championship DraftKings PGA slate from a first look perspective. They look at pricing and give their first thoughts on how to approach the slate.
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All systems go clear for lift Up What’s up everyone Tyler tamboline here AKA toag and Tambo back finally come back from vacation appreciate everybody that reaching out but get back for the first look show with my guy hoopster we’re gonna break down all things vpar Championship get to that but before we
Do bring in my guy hoopster held it down for me while I was away hoop how you doing my friend and how was your players week shout out to everybody here in the chat the shipet nation is uh still shiping nation building is still standing despite your your vacation last
Week we held it down got the job done and now you return and we were joking uh you know earlier because obviously business partners we’ve been talking for a while pretty consistently here obviously we’re in communication every day seemed like a hell of a lot longer
Than one week man it was like uh it was weird a weird feeling but we’re back and ready to go Full Throttle in terms of the players um you know on the right guys I mean talked about it all week long about Scotty Sheffer just wanted to
Take the overweight uh approach on him I did that um but just didn’t find many five of ass sixes to be honest with you that was my main thing I had a lot of or didn’t find many six ass sixes I had a lot of really solid five of sixes but no
Solid six of sixes Scotty got the job done I mean just an incredible run here and man like we talked about a lot with that putter gez I mean just the little just that little difference and this guy is I mean incredible just incredible to
See so that part went well yeah but in terms of my lineups you didn’t have the six of sixes needed to to contend but welcome back and excited to talk some PJ with you again yeah we’re going to go through it all break it all down for you
Guys and more it was a great week we had again thank you to everybody that reached out my wife and I celebrating 10 years so don’t want to make it about me obviously it was just to mention it quickly but to say it was it was a fun
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Happy to you know see him on camera doing all that stuff I still tuned into the shows where I could those ones definitely tuned in for so so shout out to our guide degenerate 75 back into the swing of things we absolutely love to see that first in the chat was Razer CH
Razer sharp lfg yeah let’s go we’re going to get into this here shout out to everybody else back we’ve got the pricing have not taken a look yet but before we get into it I will say big weekend hoop again so like you said it didn’t break down it got held down over
At shiban na we had a one two3 in round two including our guy picket picket picks does all our stuff in the community Run tennis channel in our Discord he got second for 20 and then Mark who reached out to a Zen player he finished first and third says I don’t do
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Humble and hard worker the guy just non-stop always going the extra mile to help everybody out there truly appreciate he had a huge weekend chopped second place in UFC someone had the outright shipper for 100 and then last night picked up a h fantasy basketball World Championship seat which were near
The buzzer six left it said tonight there’s four satellites out there so gonna try and get in on the action there but shout out to our guy Rio we’ll get into this slate who anything you want to add there man or you want to talk right
About this B Spar we got the the Sam’s bur Sam Burns Championship as some are calling it yeah uh first off congratulations to all the winners you love to see that um and the one thing that definitely stood out well first off uh Hebrew jeta our guy Rio um you know
Runs essentially our NBA product over here and has done a phenomenal job all season long grinding his ass off um and like you said one of the hardest workers that I’ve encountered in this industry just a really good dude so congratulations to him on H the the phenomenal weekend getting the live
Final seed and then winning at UFC as well and he’s another guy in these UFC streets that I can tell you right now I you know I come on here and I’ve had a lot of success in MMA and I talk about it where the only thing I’m using is our
Content at shipping nation.com titles and Marley’s input and I’m building my teams now I didn’t win this week but I’ve shipped multiple times I’m up a lot of money playing MMA strictly from using our content and I know it’s the same thing for Rio Rio is is not going
Elsewhere to get his uh UFC MMA content he is going to our content title and Marley’s and able to get the job done these guys know their [ __ ] when it comes to MMA it is very impressive and you get kind of two mindsets molding together with tidle and Marley you get a little
Back and forth you can find some spots that they disagree or agree on but they’ve done a phenomenal job with this this product it’s led to a lot of um a lot of ships a lot of winds obviously for for our community uh the second thing that stood out for sure in these
Wins is the uh The Showdown because this is like the second time in the last few weeks where it’s been one two three you know a bunch of high finishes not just one individual finish but where we’re seeing a lot of guys at the top and that’s where these our our projections
Really come into play for each individual round we talk about a lot of sites they put up the main slate projections and they just roll them out all weekend long and don’t change our projections for PGA Showdown taking into account the weather taking into account where these guys are currently sitting
Taking a lot of other factors into consideration not just the number and we seen it a couple times where you know shipet Nation members have dusted the field in these contests so um that was the the second thing that kind of stood out to me but again congratulations to
All the winners out there yeah full projections ownership for each Showdown slate starting in round one the Slate plan where it’s a breakdown of sort of what we think’s going to happen some of our core plays and then we do up a little tier rankings at the bottom and
Then the stone obviously degenerate 75 who started this as the Rosetta Stone we moved it over to the stone just to to come put a name on it but the the setup is pretty solid where everything is all in one place makes it very easy and then
Obviously if you join and you get the partnership with us over at the solver you’ll see our logo at the top you can get single Sport and go just to PGA 25 bucks a month get it automatically put in there for you or you can go to the
All sports 49 bucks a month and have it locked in to get all the sports with the projections ownership automatically moved over for you so yeah shout out to that someone said they love to see you know Paul right here good stuff love to see we have a ton of that and that’s
Part of what we love about our community is that you know sort of the hospitality of everybody that’s in there we try and give as much as possible but it’s the members that give back as well so it’s just awesome to see and yeah right out
Of the gates and I asked him I said you want a Golf seat or sorry you want a golf tournament here do you want to do an annual for PGA only or do you want to do the all access like it’s up to you he
Said no for sure all access give him the full meal deal and send over the 509 and that was awesome so we’re gonna have a giveaway for that um any final thoughts on the players before we H we try to wrap things up by 10 minutes and get
Into the actual stuff but um just a lot of people did have this feeling so kby Travis is a great dude he said you know it would change the sort of golfers that you select if you think it’s going to get to 20 under versus you think it’s
Going to be a grinded out 10 under type of finish so did you have any thoughts on that one yeah I mean it was much easier than I think anyone anticipated and and for something that you know everyone calls the fifth major you want
It to be more of a a test and there really wasn’t too much of a challenge like without wind like a lot of the water and Hazards can be avoided on that course and I think that’s really what you saw this week there wasn’t much wind
At all so PE these guys were able to avoid uh the the water hazards that lur around this course so for me that was the the one big thing but on top of that the course was very soft too I mean these guys hitting the ball into the
Green they’re able to basically you know put it right where they wanted with no issue whatsoever so I would have I I I don’t know a ton about the ins outs and golf courses and all that but from what I understand they have this subair system where they could have potentially
Made it like a little bit tougher I would have loved to see that without any wind like they knew they weren’t getting any wind so the only way to to kind of make this a little more difficult would have been to to firm it up specifically
On the greens and again I don’t know how that looks I don’t know how it’s possible but it was definitely uh you know way too easy for me I mean you had um you had some no-name guys shooting some some scores like you know big underpar scores so um yeah I didn’t like
That aspect of it definitely would have like to see a bigger test I mean the rough did look pretty deep and and some of those uh the pine straw lies that that looked pretty difficult but man these guys are just too good they can overcome it if there’s not wind out
There so definitely would have liked to see it a little more difficult but it is what it is and we move on yeah this brings up this point from Eugene which is also solid I mean this was how the season started off was all these long shots I will say though I
Mean again strength of field is what dictates that more I think like yeah we had it at the Genesis sure but that probably be the only other one that I would say where like the other ones you can make a case for but these two specifically the API and the shorten
Field with everything they’ve got there and now the players it did not surprise me you know at all when it comes to that stuff that it was going to be one of those guys so and the other thing to take into account where some of the I
Mean I know people don’t like talking about the live stuff but I mean there’s you know these fields overall are a little bit weaker I mean those guys are no longer playing week to week so I think just naturally with all those guys going over you’re going to see more of
These long shots mix in for for winners because there’s less guys each week that you can really say all right this guy has a legitimate chance to win there’s just less of those guys nowadays on the PGA tour so um I think any week you could see a long shot pop up obviously
At the majors something like the Masters it’s going to be much more difficult smaller field it’s all the top golfers in the world but uh week to week I you know I wouldn’t be surprised if we still see you know more long shots get their
Way to the top yeah and that’s what I was gonna say about going back to this week we’re gonna get into in a second here because we’ve got on the screen now Xander Burns JT speed we’ll talk about those two specifically but yeah Burns is obiously one twice in a row here sixth
Again last year people keep thinking Xander is going to WD I haven’t seen anything on it yet but we’ll see about that but yeah the um the field that we’re going back to now is not strong so it would not surprise me if you like the
Guys from the 60s to 150 range you’re talking about betting I got no problem going there this week I’ll look for some of those for the fantasy golf generates podcast tonight and this was like a this kind of blew up it was just a joke I just take all the pictures of Windham
Clark because now it’s like Pebble Beach there was the scenario where he was sort of patting down the ground and then dropped his ball where he patted it down then at API he had the thing with the club movement nobody believed it then brandle shamble who could half times a joke
Anyway went on and said that this was uh you know he thought he had moved it which was like how Rah did it at the memorial that year where he was up four and then ended up winning by two strokes and then this yesterday or whatever it
Was when he was sort of setting up away from the sprinkler head Behind the Green tough shot the uphill into the green and it showed him like doing like the Cha Cha Cha I was I was just down in the Bahamas we were doing some Salsas and
Some two- stepping that Windam Clark was definitely doing it I don’t know like I don’t care about it I just throw it out for the fun and see what people think I I don’t know like it just it’s funny that it was a lot of times and I was
More so making fun of Dan Rapaport who started out the day comparing Windam clar said Windam Clark is he the next Brooks Kea and so I said wam Clark is he actually the next Patrick Reid because he’s literally every single week now we’re talking about it and people get on
Your case quickly about it I I honestly don’t care any thoughts on that hoop that you wanted to add and then we’ll get into the bous card stuff yeah I mean you hate to see that because you know the the PGA Tour set set themselves up
Like you know they’re you know the most honorable type tour out there and and to see guys kind of do that a little bit it definitely is not a good luck um there’s no doubt about it but I mean I don’t know like I think they all do it anyway
And Windam Clark is obviously a good dude if you watch uh full swing cool two two two stories out of it one is like the if you watch just the first few episodes no spoilers but you know talk about the mental coach and stuff like
That like he got into it and then Joel Damon with the T10 over the weekend so probably enough we we went to 15 minutes again thanks to everybody for reaching out for last week thanks to everybody on the team for helping out congrats to everybody on that let’s get into it hoop
This is the pricing and I’m going to do one quick cheat code just to find out okay there is 5K range so interesting to note because that was the other thing brought up about last week which we’ll tie into this week we’ll get you to take
Me through spe up to Xander but the pricing last week was saying like if the Field’s gonna have that pricing it’s what I said since the start when they brought this pricing out like that was the one takeaway I just didn’t want to you know I didn’t want to full fade
Scotty but I didn’t want to go overweight like you so I went underweight I still managed to have a a shot in the Millie maker I faded as the day went on and as Scotty won but it just goes to show you could still move
Off it and have outs to the top but let’s talk about this week Xander 112 Burns 109 have to assume those two are super popular assuming Xander does stay in because JT and speed obviously a pretty bad week at the players for them especially after JT was talking smack
And then uh the smash GC actually went out which is Taylor gca’s team and put the uh the asteris on it and said you you won’t worry about me but you won’t be there for the weekend you got cut so they talk the little [ __ ] too on social media yeah that’s uh definitely
Interesting um yeah this range I mean yeah it’s a weak field honestly and you did go down to the the 5K so we have the 5K so you know if you’re going to play 5K guys you want something you feel pretty comfortable with up top um you
Know Xander falling a little short you know sucks for him but that’s kind of just been the story of his career just not being being able to get the job done now a little more difficult to get the job done when Scotty shuffler the best player in the world is is chasing your
Tail and just you know now he has got this new putter that is clearly gonna help him you know long term and you know if he plays in this he’s very likely to make the cut um you know where does he finish yeah I don’t know you know Sam
Burns is I’m assuming good course history here right is that what it is yeah that he’s got the best yeah he won it twice 2021 22 and then finished sixth here last year JT actually has good course history 10th third and 13th the last three years but we’ve seen it all
Season so far it’s pretty much been the recent form show beating the course history show so we’ll see how that goes but that’s the the noticeable stuff yeah so initial thoughts for me up here yeah Burns probably gets ownership shle does as well I think people do stick on JT I
Mean we saw it after the Genesis where he he played pretty poorly people were willing to go right back to him I think that’s the case again this week and it’s going to be easy to play these guys up top with that five range and you know I
Peak down there there’s a lot of just volume in terms of the number of guys a lot of guys in the 5K range there’s going to be a lot of options you’re gonna be able to get up here if you want um spe is one that probably goes overlooked and honestly probably
Shouldn’t be in this range like he his game just does not seem right to me so you know burn shley I think they get ownership I think JT continues to get the free path pass and then spe I think is a guy that probably goes pretty
Overlooked in this range I mean 102 is just a justifiable price range with the way he’s been playing yeah just looking at it there now speed has got I mean spe came third here last year and he’s won it before back in the day I mean again it’s you
Know what what type of course you think we see set up here but I guess it’s clear who’s going to go Overlook it’s going to be speed I agree with you on the take that if someone chooses to go to someone here it’s going to be Thomas with that course history over speed
Burns will for sure be popular and then Xander we’ll see how it shakes out but I mean again he’s still going to get ownership because because there’s easy uh easy ways to get to him and because of Burns and the guys that were about to
Get to in the nines I think it still keeps it so that Xander while he’ll have a bunch of ownership it still stays in check versus price tag and prices that you can get to at the bottom not I don’t know who’s down there right now but just
Noting that you can get down to the 5K range which you haven’t even really needed it’s more of the sixks and above but just to note it there’s lots of ways to build them so he’ll still get ownership as well so I think that’s the
Early thought for me at the top let’s go into this 9k range hoop we got Brian Harmon down to minwoo back back to 9k nice okay so cam young 9600 sunj 94 Fina 93 how did sunjay even finish this past week uh he was it wasn’t great okay yeah
All right I mean yeah you look at this range yeah like a guy like sunj I mean man NE paying the premium 94 for him he just has not done anything all season long it’s it’s honestly tough tough to go there yeah I saw the comment about J
I mean he was ad dick to my son and [ __ ] up his career now he bounced back a little bit to start this year but to could be Travis’s Point like even if you stayed off him it really hasn’t hurt you all that much he had what a T3 at one
Point early on so you might have needed him there but everything else seems like it’s been 10th 11th 12th so you’re still fine to to be off him sunjay back like for me no but uh man Brian Harmon I think probably sets up well for this course he’s 9800 played well last week
Um cam young I’ve just kind of been playing lately seen some good signs I know he didn’t play all that well over the weekend at the Players but I’m fine going back to him um you know sunjay I don’t know I mean 9400 it just has talk
About a guy if you’ve been fading it hasn’t burned you sunjay is that guy because it has not been good for him lately then Tony Fe now just continues to be like really really bad at putting like just really bad I don’t know what the exact stats were for last week but I
Saw I know at least three or four it looked like four foot putts that he missed um last week so tough to play a guy like that and then you know in terms of name recognition and value this is where it kind of falls off after feno
You go 9,300 Tony feno immediately down to Nick Taylor at 91 and then minwu 9k Keith Mitchell CZ so the names really start to change after F now so just kind of you know curious to see what people do but um in this 9k range a lot of
Question marks to be honest with you like there’s nothing super secure I think in this range so you know in terms of ownership could potentially get spread out or maybe be a little lower in this Nik range because I don’t know at first glance to me at least nothing
Really stands out yeah it feels like people are gonna talk themselves into like Harmon and above before even messing around with these guys here so I could see where and maybe cam young young but I could see sunjay fow Nick Taylor minwu all get sort of nothing and
Then people are going to be happy to jump down to the gims the rise the Keith Mitchells even Bez like those guys they could just see sort of coming through here and grinding it out so I could definitely see that Bez off of 13th Etc Brian Harmon is the guy here actually a
Bad course history he’s a fifth one time and then five miscuts surrounding it but he’s obviously playing Great Golf and one of the things I noticed about him now it’s just you go back to it again a lot of people saw the same stuff it was
It was a lot of US Open guys at the top of the board yesterday like wam Clark Scotty Sheffer like you just see sort of that setup and what you know about the US Open is not only is it a hard tournament but it’s when you saw how
Easy the players was playing for this course at TBC sass you think well then what else could it be and it’s been clear Brian Haron is showing up in the stronger Fields now I don’t know if that is something in his mindset that sort of reverts back where now when he hops into
This weaker field he just doesn’t shine and come through but You’ think it should be the other way right now you get him and that’s where like someone says how can he be 9,800 well he’s coming in all these top finishes in these strong Fields but now he gets in
In a weak field that’s should be where he is worth that price and you could see that Nick Taylor another example make fun of it all you want 9,100 bucks well what’s fow done what’s sunjay done these guys haven’t done [ __ ] Nick Taylor won like three events ago he’s come 12th 26
He’s got a 10th TI last year like why isn’t he 9100 and that’s just the one that I don’t know if people will be able to get over so I I can see some love Landing in here but I definitely think this range looks a little bit overlooked
At least for now hoop and I think people are going to be more inclined to go down to this next one which we’ll go to in one sec I will comment on my guy Shan here is s yeah like like our guy Jeff says Harmon number nine and whether you
Believe in those rankings or not I don’t neither does anybody but the point is he’s definitely still up there the guy’s been doing things he owned their ass at the open and then he did it again yesterday at the Players he’s been doing it plenty of times like the guy’s solid
Um the the comments from sah thala about Harmon and just talking about was so true like the guy’s actually longer than you think his irons he said he’s a striper I think he said it you know like just continuously Stripes it and then he also said that you know uh you know
Think about how many years he’s been doing it for it’s hard to keep your card that long and do it that well the guy’s just incredibly strong he’s been good he gets hot with the putter but back to sunjay this guy really messes things up and you can see why there becomes an
Addiction to Sun JM for someone like me because what did I say two events ago I said we’ll give him one more shot at the API because you got to see if he’s got something there and if it’s you know if you’ve been on him you have to stay on
Him because it’s a tournament he’s done well at you could try it out here he does the worst thing and doesn’t really give you an answer he comes top 20 at 18th but it’s not strong enough you’re like ah and it’s a smaller field and all
Of that but then you have to stay on him for the players and you say well he didn’t actually have a great track record at the Players so then you can kind of hop off him what’s he do a 301 place where he could have done a lot
Better I mean could have done worse of course but it’s like it felt like he left a little bit out there so now you almost have to stay on him if you’ve been on him and that’s that’s where I’m at he actually has a great history here
Fourth and 29th the two times that he’s played it so is he back I don’t know am I still going to play him yes that’s my answer let’s move on let’s go to this 8K range Keith Mitchell down to Patrick Rogers hoop what you what are you doing
In this range your first thoughts yeah just one other note in that 9k range I thought the Nick Taylor thing is very interesting because you look at all the guys in that range and over the course of the last like month and a half he’s had the best results out everyone you
Look at each and every start so it’s it is interesting he’s the one that people are probably least interested in at first glance you know it could obviously change as week goes on but he’s the name that looks like he doesn’t belong there really he’s played the best so that was
Real quick note funny you say that because just now to to poke it at something I have in front of me he when he won Justin Thomas came 12th when with the next event they both played the same event he came 39th Justin Thomas miscut Justin Thomas’s best finish recently was
The 12th Place guess what Nick Taylor also came 12th Place and then last week Justin Thomas talked [ __ ] missed the cut 26th Place for Nick Taylor Justin Thomas oh but he’s been he was good here last year he came 10th so did Nick Taylor and it’s the price Gap is $1,100 or whatever
It is on here between those two guys or or more actually 104 it’s $1,300 so just to don’t be scared of it I’m just saying it’s all how you want to look at it long term obviously you got JT there but I’m talking about just in this particular
Event and right now what you’ll hear people say that’s one way to look at it for sure and yes this is true definitely uh intervention was that’s where that came from and why I invented that uh AK range Keith Mitchell played was playing pretty well last week he
Fell off I believe round four at the Players 8,900 you know potentially CZ been playing very solid golf I think people stay on him at 88 Cole’s a guy that people just like to play uh Keegan Bradley Boomer bust Aaron Ry very popular last week and he ended up with a
Strong finish I don’t know exactly where he was but that’s three strong finishes in a row but now you got to pay the real price tag for him at 8500 Doug gim continued his solid play Bo Hustler disappointed last week I know a lot of people were on him including myself uh
Did not get the job done but what is he 8300 uh hadwin at 82 MTH McNeely I’ve been playing MAV and I’m staying on his ass like I’ve been on him for for a while uh he was very solid last week you know didn’t get in contention uh round
Four I think he was right round even or one under but he was like 6,300 last week his whatever top 10 finish uh goes a hell of a long way so interested in him and then uh Patrick Rogers uh I’m gonna be pretty bitter on on Rogers
Because he was the miscut on my best team I had a a Scotty A Harmon a ludvig team in the 555 and I had the Patrick Rogers miscut so uh I will not be playing him but the guys that definitely stand out to me in this range MAV for
Sure Doug gim continues to play really well and then CZ is on nice little heat heater so there’s names here I think a lot of people will come down here you know maybe maybe come here instead of some of those guys in the 9k range that
We talked about um these guys have been playing better recently in this range um so yeah it’s it’s a pretty strong rang here but not many guys with that 5K there’s a lot of 5K guys so we only have like 10 options here in the akk range
Yeah Doug gim should be pretty popular because it doesn’t even they haven’t populated the players yet and he just finished 16th there as well so 16 16 8th 12 13 doesn’t really matter what type of event he’s been in obviously these are easier fields and he’s up there pretty strong
Fields and he’s been up there so I mean he he’s doing just fine including the 16th at the Players so would suspect he gets pushed up you know as far as ownership goes not sure what people will do with Ry it is three good events in a
Row but sort of hasn’t done as much here like again you look at it it’s Mexico open the Puerto Rico last week was solid but kind of I think faded a little right 35th by the end of it all said and done so he was in there about at 6,400 nobody
Was complaining Bo Hustler always gets love McNeely coming off a good week maybe people don’t like the fact that it was a lot of short game that got him there but he was still up the board for sure where do you think people are at on somebody like Eric Cole because now it’s
Two miscuts in his last three a Mis cut here last year obviously before that he was super hot when it came to results like 21st 10th these are Big Boy events these are Signature Events t49 Pebble Beach was all the signatures T4 T10 t21 we’re not out a signature so maybe not
But where do you think people are at with the guy like him don’t they just play Mitchell and Bez instead yeah I don’t know PE Eric Cole is like a people’s champ people like playing this guy for some re not for some reason he’s had good results there’s no denying it
So I think he’s another guy that probably gets a free pass this week and people are willing to to go back to him did he what did he miss the cut last week is that what it was yeah he missed the cut he was two over um I I think
People give him the free pass and give him one more try like once we start to see two in a row or you know three out of four then they might be over him but I think he he still comes in with with some ownership this week he’s a a guy
That people are excited to play each and every week hadwin’s been better he’s off and on I mean just missed the cut again but before that he had the fourth um you know he’s been okay here seventh 12th and a win back in 2016 I believe it was
Yeah 2017 yeah 2017 but um who’s the other guy I was just looking up here that I wanted to ask you about you talked a little bit about him but uh Bez 13th last week oh Keegan was the other guy I was gonna look up here Keegan Bradley another miscut at The Players
Man has he has been playing well has not been playing well but I mean he’s one of these I think Boomer bus guys that like if it’s all clicking he can contend and he probably does get a little overlooked in this range because of the the recent
Results I mean he hasn’t had really anything going this year um two out of three missed Cuts now can keep him on the radar for you know gpps because again when when it’s all right he can content yeah it was a struggle like it says here struggled on Friday the five
Bogies and the triple bogey wow the um the setup though I was just going to say you know weal mayo and I talked about this a couple weeks ago on a show of some of these guys like thala is one the old Max hom before Max hom was really
Strong obviously not comparing these golfers just saying the types of guys that you know the volatility seu Kim was on that list and look at him this past week he’s not here I don’t believe is he but uh I don’t think I don’t think c r
Is here is he no no yes see was not but um they’re both they’re another type of guy like that like Keegan what you’ve seen lately at least and obviously with the wi last year all that stuff but it’s when he pops he really pops for the
Price tag 8,600 you’re going to want something but it’s just under I mean it’s just over average price so um something to be said for that right like it’s just over the average price there so I don’t have any any problem with him if you want to take take him in gpp just
Probably don’t fill your lineup with guys like that Patrick Rogers probably fits that mold as well like when he’s been in it T6 T9 or decent for the price point like you wouldn’t hate it because there’s going to be some scoring that he can put up I also wonder how this is
Going to play we did talk about that off the top but I do feel like every course we’ve went to bes you know even last weeks was like where you think it’s going to play a little tougher this place typically does play a bit tougher so you’d think some of these guys could
Grind it out you want some of that but then you got to just kind of almost uh assume a little bit lately that it’s going to just play a little bit easier maybe who knows yeah I mean that’s way I mean really it seems like it comes down
To the wind if it’s not windy I mean these guys are getting after these courses quite easily so yeah I mean to me we need to see that that weather forecast I’m not believing any course is tough without wind at this point well this is insane just as you on those
Thoughts I agree with you but like this is I think there’s only 50 I think it’s the lowest 7K range I’ve ever seen I count 15 guys so many see again we’ll get into it when we talk about it but like I definitely like the 5K range I
Don’t like what they did with the 5K range this week where they basically put it’s got to be at close to like half the field in the 5K range I disagree with 5K range when it’s going to be like that they just dumped everyone down there
Look at that I mean look at the sheer number of guys that are 5K like I want a 5k range should never be this big that’s just saying all right we’ll just dump all these guys in the 5K range and everyone else will go a $100 separation
I just I don’t like this sort of setup yeah let’s talk about the sevenk range there only 15 guys so I got most of them on the screen here so you can break it down what you see but any first thoughts on any of these guys yeah Taylor Mo
Continues to to make cuts and and play well I mean you know he had made every cut and then you know last week made the cut and I I I don’t know exactly where he finished but he seemed uh to do pretty well putam um do you know anything else about Taylor
Moore no defending Champion Taylor Moore he won last year here yeah people that don’t know Hooper never pays attention to that [ __ ] either he doesn’t very often and he doesn’t look at that but that’s the other thing about Taylor well he’s be he’ll be popular then this week
You have to imagine right I mean for you hoop bonus keep going yeah people will be on him though that’s the one thing I mean he’s if he’s a defending champ and playing well hasn’t missed a cut like he’s got everything the course history he’s got the recent form that people get
Excited about uh putam played well um what is he 7700 Taylor Moore was pretty solid last week don’t know exactly where he finished but 7500 um interesting play there I just never play horel uh I’m not a horel guy Ryder had a nice little run I believe and that’ll be backto back solid
Finishes for him Ryan Fox man that’s a a tough way to go out goes the he gets the eagle on 16 then gets the hole in one on 17 on Thursday then finds a way to miss the cut like that is a that is a tough
Tough going for Mr Ryan Fox but I might still be on him with all that being said I like Ryan Fox burger at 7200 is uh you know interesting because a lot of people got on him at the cognizant I believe I was on them did not end well played well
Round one then shot the 75 in round two but 7200 um do people want to go back I I might have some interest and then man like all my guys that I personally like week to week are at the bottom here like shank I always play shank and he played
Well last week batia at 7100 Davis Thompson and then uh Rio at 7K so I’ll be I’ll be in this lower 7K range quite a bit this week I have a feeling yeah I think I’m gonna play some uh who’s the other guy I had last week Brendan Todd
Just want to see what else I’m playing some on him I know yeah he’s priced here at uh 74 don’t mind Tod again so don’t mind that that’s the thing I like Brendon Tod was 7,400 last week this is where I don’t like he did he missed the cut but
It’s like even still the field got is much different that’s why other guys are 91 now and 94 and he just gets left there so that I’m fine with that like I’ll go back to him putam went way up from 6200 last week or whatever he was
Now he’s up I don’t mind that if it shows you know signs of bite or that we’re GNA see anything there I I could go to straa you can play him either way I just think that would be even better for him he’s a kind of a guy you could
Take the risk on and it could improve from there and I think he finished 16th last week they’re not gonna have it updated here but F mraa uh who else here the guys at the bottom you said like shank batia baa was another guy that mayo and I talked about there look at
This cut cut 13th cut 13th 14th he basically If he if he misses the cut fine he’s going to miss the cut anyway but I don’t know like I’m I’m fine with this so and Eugene says this too yeah that’s kind of what we’re saying here yeah I
Mean it’s more I mean it it is so saying like build lineups with six guys in that range I don’t I’m not against it I’m just saying I think that over four days it’s going to be tough I think you know it’s fine to do you know
Leave money on the table in some cases but you don’t probably need to leave 8,000 I know people see optimals and say oh well the optimal left this much so I’m going to play lineups like that it can get there but you’re asking a lot I just do think it’s noteworthy that
There’s only 15 guys in the 7K range so what that tells you is a lot of these 6K guys could very well just easily been 7K guys and that’s where you’re saying let’s leave money on the table because if pendrith is in instead of burger or instead of horel they’re like the same
Guy so that means you can easily build lineups that are 492 and feel comfortable because would you really give a [ __ ] if you had Taylor pendri or Billy horel I wouldn’t so it’s the same thing to me and that’s where I kind of get an idea of the money that I’m going
To leave on the table uh let’s move down hoop let’s go to this 6K range give me your thoughts in here uh well at the top I know you were on vacation last week and you said you had a lot of time to to read books and
And self-reflect um there’s a guy at $ 66900 that I was just curious if you wanted to maybe change your opinion on or issue an to the up on the screen you got him up on the screen yeah I see him I know who you’re going to right away
What did he do this past oh just a little t35 at the old Players Championship so 38 35 six and 35 he looks free this week go kiss of death when who when hoop said he was the most mispriced guy in the field and you started laughing that’s
When his career took off we got start a new segment moving forward for the people and the answer is just play them and it’s the the segment is called when hoop says just play them don’t have to finish the sentence when hoop says with conviction will say maybe maybe got to
Add a little caveat there but when you say dust is gonna become gold it’s always the way to do it so you know that has been it has been the way since uh we launched ship at nation that has been true more times than not the best part
About this is I didn’t have any teams in contention in the melee or anything this past week but I pulled up uh the best team I did have was like a Scotty Harmon six out of six and uh sure as [ __ ] my chief guy was Mr Stanger sitting so you
Know what funny though the week after because you you were on him at the cognizant when we went on about that yes Puerto Rico was last weekend at the uh the previous event the API what week was was Puerto Rico was that week right was
Right it was the API week yeah it was as I was leaving for vacation so basically I was trying to say was I ended up betting Stanger at the Puerto Rico because I was like Hoops ass is gonna get flop leg on this guy and it didn’t
Work out I had the each way so it paid out okay but he did he screwed me on Sunday like it was a a huge opportunity and he just squandered it so just to note that uh that was the guy that that I bet him at the Puerto Rico and I had
Action on that T3 because I know the little Hoops the hoop hangover it lingers so it’s good on a guy like him but what what are you doing in this range you like Stager definitely playing Stanger for sure there’s no doubt about that chess and Hadley is a guy that I
Just think is better Suited in these weaker field events like he he’ll pop up against uh you know some of these weaker weaker fields and the 6700 he’s had some solid results I think this a perfect spot to go to a guy like Hadley uh Novak
What did Novak do last week I know he was a big talking point I can’t remember without the uh did he miss the cut Miss Miss cut yeah he’d coming in he was coming in off those three top nines yeah I’d be fine giving him another chance
Potentially I mean it looks like most of those top end finishes where was it the cognizant Mexico yeah so some weaker field events like I’d be fine going back to him giving him another chance Sheamus power 66 senson Lee Hodges Lee Hodges continues to play pretty solid three out
Of four really good results um 6600 I think he’s a guy to play Matthew neith um yeah I don’t I don’t mind n Smith he finished uh I believe it was like top 30 last week 26 yeah he’s got a good history here too third and 21st yeah I
Think that’s a named to definitely go to um and then you keep coming down a little bit it gets man it it does not get exciting Carson young kind of stands out at at 63 as a guy that I would potentially play um what about your boy
Bobby Mack oh gosh man it’s just so rough with Bobby Mack I just I don’t know it is not good it is not good what did he do last week I know it wasn’t good miscut yeah miscut of course I don’t know if I can do it uh Sammy
Valami like you know I’d be right going back to him he was there last week made the cut 6,100 um I think the Finish was pretty decent as well I want to say and no 54 so I guess it wasn’t all that good but yeah I don’t mind him at uh
6,100 um Schmid had a nice finish last week at at 6K flat I don’t know I mean there’s there’s guys to be played down here for sure but again it’s going to come down to how much exposure you’re getting to this upper range how much Xander do you want to play how much
Burns JT spe uh in regards to how much risk you want to take down here because we have a whole another range with I don’t know it looks like probably 70 golfers in that 5K range uh as well so I honestly more times than not I’m GNA
Look at these 6K guys and say is there somebody comparable in the 5K range where I can you know get another upgrade to my lineup and the answer is probably going to be yes on a lot of occasions where I can find a comparable guy for
Much cheaper so I might not be in the 6K range all that much again this is Monday first looks type stuff but um yeah it’s kind of kind of where I’m at here in this 6K range a few names you know Stinger stands out like I said Hadley
Stands out Hodges n Smith those would probably be the top four for me in the 6K range yeah how how much was Hodges I couldn’t see them there uh 606 Hodes senson probably get the projections bump so they’re going to be in there and like Hodges at the API I
Think these four guys and senson just because and I could name some others but especially these guys like n Smith what he’s been coming in off of Joel Damon finally showing up having a good event maybe people go off him a little bit but Garnett won at the Puerto Rico just a
Couple weeks ago at where I was telling you about with Stanger coming in third that’s how I remembered but he also has a 27th and a 31st tier so I mean at 6200 if someone’s going again again the one thing I’ll say about these the new pricing that we’ve seen this year is
That it doesn’t really matter don’t let any of this talk you out anything because it’s going to 3% to 5% or from 4% to 6% like it just doesn’t matter there’s so many other ways to get different you can still get low product ownership you can get low overall
Ownership like you can get whatever you’re looking for I don’t care how you do it what your process is but you can find better ways to roster construction still and be good by still using these guys if you want to use them I’m just noting who I can see that’s going to be
Popular down here early on and I think that you know for good reason they all have good numbers on paper trying to see if any others stood out the Fenson price I again I don’t really care what he’s done for me this last few of events versus in general it just seems odd
Versus some of the other guys around him where the price got the bump the chat asked about Eric Barnes got second here just recently at the Puerto Rico up when he making Cuts things like that Riley was in the playoff with Burns here uh few years ago nothing special lately
Though that we’ve seen out of him but if you want to see something sort of bounce back there Grayson Sig maybe 6,300 SM and young seemed pretty cheap we’ll see how those guys go talked about you know Garnett I always like spawn again hasn’t done anything lately but just looking at
It from that perspective maybe bramlet these are guys we play that can have upside it just depends see how this one’s playing because he’s done nothing lately uh sh Kim but this if the place is playing tougher I could see guys like him someone mention M Hughes earlier
Yeah like those guys they’re going to be the around the green Warriors like they they can just find it that way sometimes even if they’re not having a great week so don’t see much else down here for me everybody love Parker Cy if we’re starting off this 5K range uh you know
He had those good results and then sort of back down a little bit Bridgeman graser and then what about uh B smith6 yeah he came six he was the other guy I was watching there on the board again weaker field of events but not like this one’s super strong so beyond
The guys at the very top some of these guys could pull through skins was uh fourth at the cognizant like I don’t know like these aren’t guys I’m running out to play but I I don’t love the 5K range as much for me playing it hoop as
Much as it exists I kind of like that yeah so I think you got to take it week by week and and you really have to look at the overall field it’s not necessarily the names that are down here in the 5K range it’s the sort of roster
Construction and the sort of access to high-end players that it potentially Gets You by playing these guys and taking on the risk because these guys are the riskiest plays in the field and this week I just don’t know if the reward is there for playing some of these guys guys because I feel
That if you go to the 5K range you’re going to need more out of these guys than a typical week because I there’s a lot of uncertainties up top like you know Xander you know okay is he the safest player in this field yeah sure um but probably Burns to be
Honest Burns yeah yeah but then Burns is it’s not like a Scotty shuffler situation where you know you’re getting like a T10 like the the floor is a T10 on you know Scotty sheffler the floor on Sam Burns is much lower than a T10 the floor on Xander sofley is much lower
Than a T10 and those are the two safest guys in the field Justin Thomas has been a boomer bus player recently Jordan spe has been mostly a bus player recently and then this 9k range a lot of question mark So if you’re playing guys in the 5K
Range you really in my eyes need to think that they can finish top 25 or top 30 this week and can some of these guys sure will some of them yeah there’ll probably be a couple of these 5K guys that do finish up there but I think this
Week specifically you’re going to need more out of your 5K guys than them just to make a cut and um you know finish 40th or 50th or something I think you need more out of these guys so it’s going to push me away from a lot of guys
In the 5K range just for that roster construction reason you’re just not getting the reward for playing these 5K guys now going through the list you know just off the top of my head guys that I might have interest in Troy Merritt uh potentially 5800 uh ET of varia 57 kind
Of stands out Justin low has had some solid finishes at uh 57 um Aaron badley Aaron badley has been playing pretty decent at 5057 as well um coming down a little bit I mean it it gets dicey so I don’t know I mean we’ll definitely have more in terms of the
Specifics in the 5K range but again to me the more important part is the overall talking point and what does a 5k golfer get you this week I think it’s much less than we’ve seen the previous weeks where the 5K price range has been involved I agree and that’s why again
You know I know we’ll do it again tonight on fantasy golf J with Kenny but can make a case for a lot of guys I can tell you a story about a bunch of these guys we all know anybody watching this show knows who a lot of these guys are
Like we can make we know Callum tan we know Paul longdong Paul barjon we know Panda Norman Jong we we know a lot of these guys can make cases for but we’re just making cases just becomes content and like you know just talking through it it’s more about roster construction
And seeing it and I can show you guys right now we can sort of round it out on this topic is make a case for them all you want if you play them play them if you got 20 lineups throw them in three or four so that if you’re right about
Peter malady week you get them in your lineups and you get something from it that’s you at least have a chance to get a few lineups with him that you can get it right so I got no problem going down here it’s just like I said from a
Content perspective you can talk about each of them but the is how you set your lineups up and what I see right now hoop burns the course history two wins and a six in the last three years MC Neely looks healthy again played really well last week Miss price is people are going
To see this not way off the board just going to say for 8100 he looks Fair he’s got a ninth a 13th and a sixth in three of his last four he came 36 here last year and he looked pretty good besides Sunday so people will be fine with him
And then Taylor Moore talked about making all these Cuts hasn’t missed a cut in forever and won here last year you start your lineup with this you still have 7700 left in your lineups again where does the 5K guy come into this that you feel that you need to say
Well I don’t even need anywhere near 5K but man I think it’s Harry Hall week let me slam him in there and now look what I can do great but now you really need that you need it to be Harry Hall week and people say you don’t need him to win
He’s only 55 you’re right you don’t but you need him to do something and then you need those last two spots to come through on top of these top three which are going to be chock so there’s just a lot more to think and then extrapolating that out to the
More mme type mindset with that same logic right there two weeks ago we I don’t know exactly when it was we had the 5K range and Scotty sheffler was in the field now if I add in three 5K guys to my player pool and I can go from 40%
Scotty sheffler to 50% Scotty sheffler in my head I can justify that for sure this week if I add in three additional 5K guys where is where’s the extra percentages going on the top top end and for me I just don’t feel good enough with these top end guys to make that
Move by adding in the risk of those 5K guys which more times than not they’re going to miss the cut in order to get more Xander or JT or speed who I don’t even like so it’s just harder for me to to justify in the mme level playing some
Of these guys at the 5K range now if you are playing them I think it’s the point that you just made with Harry Hall like if you want to play Harry Hall play Harry hall because you think Harry Hall has a chance to do something special
This don’t play him because of what it does for your lineup so it’s like kind of a reverse mindset to how I’ve been thinking about this 5K range but it is important because you have to re-evaluate it each and every week you can’t have the same mindset with these
Ranges each and every week you have to re-evaluate based on the field based on the pricing based on other factors as well so you know two weeks ago where Scotty’s in there I can justify a little bit more because I know I’m getting more of the best golfer in the world which
Now is by a bigger margin than before opposed this week where these 5K guys like I think you’re going to need them to do something I don’t feel good about these guys doing something this week yeah and look at this even when I add Xander I go right back to the very top
You still don’t even need Harry Hall I still can just stay at 6K now you can go 55 I get that what I’m trying to say is though how often to your point this is not it’s not Scotty Rory which we still haven’t even seen that battle down the
Stretch where the hell’s Rory been so I mean like you also how we’re getting a Sam Burns Xander battle so but you’ll get Xander he’ll come top 10 it can happen but again you you just don’t necessarily need to do that you end up having a guy like Min wo or Nick Taylor
Or IM or somebody cam young that comes through and just finds a way to get the job done because the field is not that strong and now you’ve got the complete wrong build with and needing a guy like Harry Hall to come through in the first place we’re not he’s taking Strays for
No reason here I’m just saying in general the thought process of actual roster construction if you guys have any questions throw them out in the chat but I like going through sort of exercises like that early in the week just to try and get a feel for what the field might
Do and then get a and go from there but anything else you had to add there hoop on this setup or this stuff that you’re seeing yeah and I will say just to that point after seeing some of those rosters that you plugged in there I mean those
Guys in the 5K range are going to be virtually unowned like you just don’t need to go down there I mean you just plugged in the two top price guys and two realistic guys to make the cut and you’re still sitting like around 6K that was an aggressive build that most people
Won’t even go to so those guys down there will be super low owned rightfully so um but you know my initial plan is probably be just to to avoid that range for the most part and that’s the thing too I I think people get it Opposite on that just another strategy tidbit but
Would be people say yeah that’s the whole point I got him at 1% so I’m the winner if he hits it’s like that’s not even true because he’s at 1% even with all your ownership and it’s like you you don’t have enough of him probably where it matters and that’s why other people
Don’t care that they’re missing out because they’re not really missing out even if that person goes on to win they’re in 1% of the entire field of lineups are 05% and then there’s probably not the right combination where that exists so just to note it for everybody again one more time because
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